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Speaker 2: Welcome to Daily Variety, your daily dose of news and

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Speaker 2: analysis for entertainment industry insiders. It's Wednesday, March fourth, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. I'm your host, Cynthia Lyttleton. I am co

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Speaker 2: editor in chief of Variety alongside Ramin Setuda. I'm in

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Speaker 2: the world covering the business of entertainment. In today's episode,

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Speaker 2: in our cover story segment, we'll hear from Variety's Salome

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Speaker 2: star of the upcoming Neon film I Love Boosters and

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Speaker 2: the peacock comedy mystery series The Urbs. That was Palmer

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Speaker 2: you heard in the cold open talking about Boots Riley,

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Speaker 2: the director of I Love Boosters. The movie premieres next

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Speaker 2: Matt Damon and Ben Affleck's Artist Equity production venture has

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Speaker 2: Venice Film Festival. He'll be back on the Lido for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven and twenty twenty eight. South African film

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Speaker 2: during the Joeburg International Film Festival in Johannesburg this week

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Speaker 2: Com right now. And now it's time for conversations with

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Speaker 2: Variety journalists about news and trends and show business. Where

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Speaker 2: we're going to hear from Variety reporter Salome Hailu on

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Speaker 2: her cover story about actor Kiki Palmer. But first we'll

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Speaker 2: our south By Southwest issue It should be kiky Tastic.

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Speaker 2: As part of our cover story package, Palmer shot an

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if it was surprising, partially

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Speaker 2: The photos are incredible. She really looks amazing. Before I

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Speaker 2: Viva south By Southwest. As we close out today's episode,

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Speaker 2: twenty four and Ben Stiller. Premieres March sixteenth. Don't miss

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Speaker 2: My Q and A with Jeff Zucker and Marco Bassetti

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Speaker 2: joined Paramount's Guidance as head of US Sales. She's spent

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Speaker 2: ESPN for fifteen years before that. Thanks for listening. This

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Speaker 2: episode was written and reported by me Cynthia Littleton, with

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Speaker 2: parent company PMC also owns the south By Southwest Festival.

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