1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: The volume. Just a reminder you can catch me recording 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: this podcast live on amp. Amp is a new live 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: radio app. They'll let you call in and chat with 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: me and person while recording. Get the app on Apple's 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: app store and make sure you follow me at John 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Middlecoff to get notified when I go live. What is 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: going on everybody, John Middlecoff three and out podcast. Hopefully 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: everyone's having a good Wednesday. We are a day away 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: from football yesterday because of Labor Day weekend, some audio 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: the podcast got loaded and then it was below the 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: Collins feed. I did a podcast for Tuesday, so if 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: you haven't listened to that, it was loaded and unloaded 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: and then loaded back on go check that out. A 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: lot of reacting to college football weekend. Obviously the two 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: guys holding out, which if you're listening to this, who 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: knows maybe one of them signed. Doesn't feel like it, 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: but you never know. And then a lot of my 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: thoughts on from Dion Sanders to Florida State and just 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: the college quarterbacks in general. Today, I thought I just 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: hit some of the headlines I'm most fired up about 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: this season, So I just rattled through about ten to 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: fifteen headlines in no order of just things that I'm 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: excited about, not just this weekend but for the entire season, 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: and just some themes things were keeping an eye on 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: things that excite me. So that is the plan today, 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: and then probably the plan tomorrow will be I'll make 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: my picks, because I guess you gotta make your picks right, 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: pick the divisions, pick some wild cards, my Super Bowl, 29 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: and probably do a mail bag as well. So at 30 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram firing those dms. So I'll 31 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: pick the league because we got to do that before, 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, the first game. Obviously the Chiefs got a 33 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: little injury news today and the new mail bag, and 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: then for Friday's pod, we'll probably talk about the games Stuck. 35 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: He's coming back from the Action Network to do a 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: little betting segment because you know, we like to gamble 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: in these parts and we all got a little Billy Walters, 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson in us. So we'll talk the games come 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: Friday as well as the game Stuck. He loves to 40 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: gamble on because try to make us some money. And 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: other than that, a lot of content this week. 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Have fun. Okay. I just 72 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: thought a little midweek before we get in probably tomorrow, 73 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: who picked the divisions, the wild cards, my Super Bowl picks, 74 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: all that fun stuff. I thought, let's just write down 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of headlines, things that came to my mind, 76 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: things that I've been thinking of, and just go through them, 77 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: things that I am most excited about, things that I'm 78 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: definitely keeping a close eye on, and let's just talk 79 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: about it because this season is gonna be fantastic and 80 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 1: the lot's gonna happen, and this is what I'm looking 81 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: forward to first and foremost. As you know, like I 82 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: don't just talk cowboys to talk cowboys. That's not the 83 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: business I am in. Though they are a pretty massive 84 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: story when you listen tomorrow. I think I'm gonna pick 85 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: them to win the division. I think they are fantastic squad. 86 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: I think they have a chance to have the number 87 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: one defense. I think offensively, clearly they have a lot 88 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: of weapons. Obviously, Dak last year led the league in turnovers. 89 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: They made a pretty, I don't want to say crazy, 90 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: but an eye opening offseason move. Mike McCarthy did not 91 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: want Kellen Moore there anymore. And Kellen Moore a Jerry guy, 92 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: someone that the Cowboys haven't just been loyal to, but 93 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: clearly really like kind of forced upon. McCarthy allowed Mike 94 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, in mafia terms, whack him, 95 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 1: say Kellen, you're not calling the plays anymore, go find 96 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: another job. They didn't fire him, but they kind of 97 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: fired him. Now, Kellen Moore was well thought of around 98 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: the league. He would have landed in countless places, and 99 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: he went to a place that I am very excited 100 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: to watch him because I think Justin Herbert has I 101 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: don't think I'm alone on this the talent to be 102 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: like an MVP in the NFL. And if you turn 103 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: a quarterback Justin Herbert, who we already think is really good. 104 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: He's a Pro Bowl level player into an MVP with 105 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: some of his offensive stats and what he did in Dallas. 106 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: Like Kellen Moore is going to be a head coach. Now, 107 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm not a Brandon Staley guy. I think he's kind 108 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: of a phony and a fraud. Not that he's not. Like, 109 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: doesn't understand NFL defenses and he didn't learn from Vic Fangio, 110 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: and he doesn't understand x's and no's. The way he talks, 111 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: he's acting like he thinks the head coach should act. 112 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel natural to him. Like when I watch 113 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel talk, or Pete Carroll talk, or Sean Payton talk, 114 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: or just go around the league, Brian Dable, they're very 115 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: comfortable in their own skin. When I watch Brandon Staley talk, 116 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: I feel like a guy that has watched a lot 117 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: of coaching videos on YouTube, like, oh, that's how it's 118 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: supposed to sound. And then I watch him coach and 119 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: I go, I'm out. Now I think that, well, I 120 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: don't think I know the Spanoses love a coach that 121 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: doesn't cost fifteen million dollars. And you can already see 122 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: this coming from a mile away. Kellen Moore being the 123 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: next head coach of the Chargers. Now, when it comes 124 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, if the Chargers are having a lot 125 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: of success offensively, he's gonna be judged offensively not just 126 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: how much success they're having, but also against Kellen Moore. 127 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: So I think there is extra pressure on Mike. Now. 128 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be good really defensively, and Dak's 129 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: good enough, Like I think he can close his eyes 130 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: and win ten eleven games. I think they got a 131 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: chance to win thirteen, So this might just be a 132 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: win win situation. Kellen goes to the Chargers inevitably becomes 133 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: the next Charger head coach. McCarthy does a pretty good 134 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: job calling the plays, they compete to win the division. 135 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick him to win the division and all's happy. 136 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: But if Kellen goes to have success, which I don't 137 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: see how he's not going to, now, I don't know 138 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: how high the Chargers are gonna go. Like in theory, 139 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: if I gave the Chargers Andy Reid, I'd be like, 140 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: they're winning the They're winning Super Bowl. I mean, if 141 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: I gave him Belichick, if I gave him a top 142 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: flight coach, I would pick the Chargers to win the 143 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But I made that mistake last year. I'm 144 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: not They're a playoff team because of the talent they have, 145 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: But as long as Brandon Staley is the guy making 146 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: the decisions throughout a game, I'm sorry, I'm out in 147 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: a big spot. Doesn't mean they can't win eleven twelve games. 148 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: But I think offensively, Kellen Moore is gonna shine and 149 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys, but they're gonna be directly intersected. 150 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: It's not as crazy because of the history is not 151 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: as long. But anytime you get into a breakup, we 152 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: saw it with Belichick and Brady, you just judged the 153 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: other based on the other success. And that's something that 154 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: both the teams. Obviously, You're the Cowboys are the biggest 155 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: brand in the NFL, and Herbert and the Chargers are 156 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: just they're actually much more of a national story than 157 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: they ever are locally. Just fascinated to watch that playout. 158 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: I learned my lesson last year is I was, like, 159 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think the two of the worst teams 160 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: in the league are going to be the Giants and Seattle. 161 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: One of those two teams is probably gonna draft number 162 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: one overall and the others gonna be drafted, you know, 163 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,239 Speaker 1: in the top five. Both of them made the playoffs. 164 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: I mean, both of them had fantastic years. Day Ball 165 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: was Coach of the Year. You easily could have given 166 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: it to Pete. Pete had one of the moments of 167 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: the year where he beat Russell Wilson on Opening Night 168 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. But I think when you look at 169 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: the Giants they had, I don't want to say a 170 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: weird offseason, but they just made a move that fans 171 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: reacted to in a negative manner. Right, Daniel Jones forty 172 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Now, It's not like they gave 173 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: him a seven year contract. It's basically a two year deal, 174 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: but they did guarantee him over eighty million dollars. Now, 175 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: I believe that he's going to continue to improve. I 176 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: told Colin this, and I've talked about this for a while. 177 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: I kind of view him much closer to an Alex Smith, 178 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: where Alex, as he got around Harbaugh and as he 179 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: got around Andy Reid, his career just ascended. He just 180 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: kept getting better. Now, he was flawed. He was never 181 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: going to be a top five quarterback, but he was 182 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: a really good player. Who could help you win eleven 183 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: twelve games and you could make the playoffs all the time. 184 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: And I think that's what Daniel Jones will be. Also. 185 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw, but Alex I saw 186 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: a story yesterday about his daughter is dealing with brain 187 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: cancer issues and they basically live scanned a scan. It's 188 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: just you talk about something that'll move you on the insides, 189 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: that's I can't even imagine, So you know, it's just speaking. Alex. 190 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: Just prayers to that guy and his family. They've clearly 191 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: went through a lot with his leg, but nothing compares 192 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: to going through something like that with a child. That 193 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: just that hurts your heart. But like I said, I 194 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: think the Giants have a chance to have some similarities. 195 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: They don't have as much talent, but as some of 196 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: those like Andy Reid, Harbaugh Alex Smith teams, and I 197 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be better than they were last year. 198 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: Now don't I'm not picking them to win thirteen fourteen games, 199 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: but they were a nine win team that felt like 200 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: a nine win team. They won a lot of crazy 201 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: close games. To me, this year they feel like a 202 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: ten and seven team, but like a real team, like 203 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: a team I know they beat the Vikings in the 204 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: playoffs last year, but the Vikings were the biggest frauds. 205 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: Like a team that you know, could just give Dallas, 206 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: give the Niners, give the Eagles a scare. I expect 207 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: the Giants, maybe their win loss record, to not be 208 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: that much different, for them to look different, them to 209 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: be more explosive on offense, them just be a consistent squad. 210 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: So and I think there's a lot of pressure anytime 211 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: you give the quarterback money like that, where a lot 212 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: of people don't think he's worth money. If it doesn't 213 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: go right, bone arrows are out, man, you're gonna get 214 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: criticized to the high heavens, and rightfully so. Because you 215 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: made a bold move, and I understood why they did it, 216 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: I probably would have gone about it a little differently. 217 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: I think I just would have let him hit the 218 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: open market and probably got him for less. But who knows, 219 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: maybe they knew the Giants or someone would have paid him. 220 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: But I think that's gonna be fascinating. I think we 221 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: all agree that top to bottom. As I'm recording this, 222 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: there was some news today about Travis Kelsey hurt his 223 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: knee hyper extension. You know, I think that's more than questionable. 224 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: Now for Thursday Night, I know he's officially questionable, but 225 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: that's not good. Obviously, Chris Jones is nowhere to be found. 226 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: But they're the champs and you're we're gonna have some issues. 227 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: But until someone beats Andy and Mahomes, I mean, really, 228 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: only the Bengals have in the last several years in 229 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: a big game. You know, in the AFC at least 230 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: you gotta pick him. And I think when you look 231 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: around the AFC, like who's going to be their legit 232 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: foe I mentioned earlier with the Chargers, like the Chargers 233 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: can beat them in a regular season game. They definitely 234 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: played them close over the last couple of years. But 235 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like, I can't take Brandon Staley to take 236 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: down Andy and Mahomes. It's just not gonna happen. I 237 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: like the Steelers a lot. I think the Steelers are 238 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: gonna be really good from a gambling perspective. Love them 239 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: week one. You know, the Ravens major question mark new offense, 240 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: but they're always just a consistent organization. You look at 241 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: the AFC East, I mean, I think the Jets, their 242 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: defense is going to be elite. I think their running 243 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: game is gonna be awesome. The Bills have always been, 244 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, been pretty consistently good now for three plus years. 245 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: The Bengals. It's just the AFC is tough. But is 246 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: this the year that one of those teams, you know, 247 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: takes them down. Do the Chiefs not even make it 248 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship Game? Are we looking at an 249 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: AFC Championship game that's like Begels, Bills or Bengals, Jets 250 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: or Bills Steelers? You know, I mean, I do think 251 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: that's in play. And I'm not overreact acting to Chris 252 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: Jones being mia and Travis Kelce being injured. But you know, 253 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: it's even the Patriots in the Brady Belichick run didn't 254 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: make it to the AFC Championship Game. Every year they 255 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: lost occasionally, I think the Ravens one time, the Broncos 256 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: one time, definitely the Jets the one time in the 257 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: second round of the playoffs. It's just hard. You know, 258 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: everyone's gunning for you, and there are several teams I 259 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: think obviously the Chiefs. I would say the Eagles and 260 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, even though they did not win 261 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, are just get treated like the hunted 262 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: and anytime the Chiefs are used to it. I mean 263 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: they've been the hunted now for over half a decade, really, 264 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: since Mahomes started playing that first year. Everyone's gunning for him. 265 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: But that's what makes Belichick and Brady were hunting for 266 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: two decades. When you're a leader at your job, which 267 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: Andy and Mahomes are, you just give them the benefit 268 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: of the doubt. But it gets harder and harder, you know, 269 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: especially they got a lot of young players. Now, those 270 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: guys got playing time last year, but your margin feir 271 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: with your receiving corps being a little bit of a 272 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: question mark. You have a freak injury like gets hurt 273 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: at practice, and Chris Jones, you know, wants who knows 274 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: how much money it just might have a difficult year. 275 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: And when I say difficult year, like maybe they win 276 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: eleven games, maybe they don't win the Vision. I don't know. 277 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: But I'm fascinated to watch the AFC, the hierarchy, if 278 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: anyone can take them down, knock them down from their 279 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: perch and really just kind of grab the conference. I 280 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: like the Steelers a lot, and I think I'm gonna 281 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: end up, you know, I got off the scimp, But 282 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. If your defense is awesome and you 283 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: can run the ball, you're just gonna be good. I 284 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: like the Jets. Speaking of the AFC, I read a 285 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: long article from Seth Wickersham, who's written I don't know 286 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: how many articles over the years that I've read, just 287 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: the in depth, detailed pieces on Dan Snyder, on the 288 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: Harbaugh breakup, on the Gruden email leak with the league office. 289 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: He's just good. If he writes an article, I read 290 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: it even if I don't care about the subjects as 291 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: much in it. And he just wrote a fantastic article 292 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: on Sean Payton, who was just a fascinating individual. Part 293 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: of the article was like Sean Payton. I remember when 294 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: I was scouting and I went to Washington State rip 295 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: Mike Leach, and I remember talking to Brian not Brian Harson, 296 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: but I forget the guy's name. He was the guy 297 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: that Lagarrett Blunt knocked out on Boise State, the defensive 298 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: lineman who was coaching for Leech. He was like the 299 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: quality control guy for him, and I was just picking 300 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: his brain about Mike Leach. She's like The crazy part 301 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: is he's like Leech doesn't get into like eleven or noon, 302 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: but he'll stay till like two or three in the morning. 303 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: He's a night out. And that was part of this 304 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: article about Sean Payton is he's like, he's not coach 305 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: Reid and Belichick. These guys are five am. They're grinded, right, 306 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: But Sean Payton works till like three in the morning. 307 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: He's more of a night guy. And part of why 308 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: he burned out with the Saints this needed to take 309 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: a deep breath. And he comes to the Denver Broncos, 310 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: who have the richest ownership. They gave him almost one 311 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars and let's face it, the big story 312 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: is him and Russ. One of the quotes in there 313 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: which inject this into my veins. If Sean Payton told 314 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: him stop kissing babies, you're not running for office. Essentially, 315 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: just be normal, which I would say to Sean, like 316 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: he ain't faking it. He's just kind of a weirdo, 317 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: like some politicians are not. Actually that's just who they are. 318 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: They're just they just act like a phony twenty four 319 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: to seven, three sixty five, just in their DNA. I 320 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: don't think they can turn it off, right, I don't 321 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: know if Russell can turn it off that there's no 322 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: changing at this point. So to me, the question is 323 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: can he make him into a good player. And a 324 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: huge part of the same success was rhythm timing play 325 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: in the pocket. That was Drew Brees. He was a 326 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: short quarterback, but he was not some mobile making plays 327 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: on his feet. He was a pocket quarterback and that 328 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: has never been Russell's thing. Not that he can't have 329 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: success from the pocket, but a lot of his success 330 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: came from freelance outside the tackle box and making plays 331 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: on the run and throwing bombs as he's moving. And 332 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: he was you could argue one of the best of 333 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: all time at that And I think the question mark 334 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: is can you get back to two or three years 335 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: ago mobile Russ or did Pete Carroll and John Schnyder 336 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: nail that one when they went, yeah, we're short in 337 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 1: this stock take it And they thought about trading him 338 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, and they pulled the trigger last year, 339 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: and let's face it, they look really smart because I think, 340 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: and I'm not alone, I'm guilty of this too. We 341 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: get conditioned now and it was like this with acl 342 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: injuries the moment Adrian Peterson returned from his ACL injury 343 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: in like three months. Were like, ah, everyone six months, Max, 344 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: tear your knee, your back better than ever, you look quicker. 345 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: It's like for every guy that comes back from Tommy 346 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: John's like he was throwing ninety three, now he's throwing 347 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: ninety eight. A lot of guys never looked the same. 348 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: A lot of guys get injured again. So just because 349 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: Brady and some of these guys played in their forties, 350 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: Rogers is forty, Peyton Manning and some of those guys 351 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: played till basically they were forty when I was a kid, 352 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: and most of the history of sports guy's career started 353 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: turning in their early thirties. Now because of training diet, 354 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: that thirty three thirty four should turn into thirty eight, 355 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: thirty nine, forty. Like, I'm not acting like we're ever 356 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: going back there. Think of the pictures you see, you know, 357 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: like when you see a picture of your grandpa or 358 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: if your dad, depending on how old your dad is 359 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: or an uncle or someone in like the seventies or 360 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: the sixties, you're like, oh, he was twenty eight, there 361 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: he was thirty two. You're like, got he looks like 362 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: he was fifty. You know, you see some of those 363 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: pictures from like the forties, You're like, yeah, that guy 364 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: was twenty eight. You're like, I gotta look sixty. So 365 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: clearly we look younger now we're healthier or much more active. 366 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: But I just wonder if Russell's style, like if he 367 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: can get it back, because Mike Sando in his Quarterback 368 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: Tier article that he's been writing for years, I heard 369 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: him on an interview when this year's came out, and 370 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: he said, for three straight years, Russell started trending down, 371 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: started getting less votes. Usually you don't just all of 372 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: a sudden throwback, like Aaron Rodgers had a rough twenty 373 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: nineteen for his standards, but he still wasn't that bad. 374 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: So then when he bangs out multiple MVPs, it was 375 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: like he actually wasn't that far away. Like Russell is 376 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: pretty far removed from like fifteen sixteen, seventeen eighteen just 377 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: kicking everyone's ass and looking like, you know, a first 378 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. The guy we've seen the last 379 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: couple of years was pretty ugly, and I think Seattle 380 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: fans have kind of said that, Like I've getten a 381 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: lot of dms that are like if you really watch Russell, 382 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago when he was 383 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: with us, it didn't quite look the same. And I 384 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: don't know if that was just like I want to 385 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: be like Brady or Manning, that's how I want to play. 386 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: Like that's not how you're gonna play. The problem is 387 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Like that's kind of how he had success 388 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: with the pocket quarterback. Now he's an innovative offensive mind. 389 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: He aspired to turn Taysom Hill into some quarterback even 390 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: though that was never gonna work. But that tells me 391 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: he wanted a mobile guy. The other thing is Sean 392 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: Payton's kind of crazy man like he is. I don't 393 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: want to call him negative, but if you read the article, 394 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: he's just not afraid to make people uncomfortable. Pete Carroll, 395 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: if you listen to the podcast he did with Richard Sherman, 396 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is a positive guy. Pete Carroll is an 397 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: uplifting guy. And part of the reason Pete Carroll really 398 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: took off at USC is he read the John Wooden 399 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: book and just realized, like, I gotta be true to 400 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: who I am. I'm not Bill Parcels, I'm not Belichick 401 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm not some curmudget. I'm not some natural asshole. Some 402 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: coaches are natural assholes. It comes easy to them. It 403 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they don't feel bad when they cross 404 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: the line or whatever. But Sean Payton and Pete Carroll 405 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: are on the opposite ends of the spectrum with how 406 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: they coach. Right. Doesn't mean they're no both not really 407 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: good coaches, But Sean Payton is a candid dropping f 408 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: bombs in your ass. So if it does get weird 409 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: and Week one is pretty interesting game Broncos Raiders, right, 410 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: someone is, it's gonna feel like a disaster. So Sean Payton, 411 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's relationship. Both guys are stupid rich. I mean, 412 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: Sean Payton's been making ten plus million for a decade 413 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: and now he makes eighteen. Russell's signed multiple big contracts. 414 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: Usually the more money you get, your ego and your 415 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: belief in yourself doesn't drop. That's not the way it 416 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: works in the world. More money you make, the more 417 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: success you make, even if you've been humble, and Russell 418 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: last year was humble, but not humbled enough to be like, 419 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: I gotta start at ground zero. I know he lost 420 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: some weight and everyone's like he's a little slimmer. In 421 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: the preseason game I watched against the Niners, he definitely 422 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: was a little blighter on his feet. But is he 423 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: actually gonna run? Is he really gonna run? Does he 424 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: want does he not want to get hit anymore? Not 425 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: that he ever got pepper, because he's always been a 426 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: pretty good slider from baseball player, but that one interests me. 427 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: I mean, the last time they got a guy to 428 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: come in that organization and really shake it up, it 429 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: was just like not afraid to make people uncomfortable was 430 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: Lway at the t Bow era and then they got 431 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and the rest is history. And it's not 432 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: gonna be as easy of a transition given how much 433 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: they're paying Russell. Like they could just get away from TBA. 434 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: They can't really just get away from Russell. Uh So, 435 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have thought that, like, 436 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: if it doesn't go well, he'll just move on. I 437 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: just don't know how you move on. Speaking of some 438 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks, you know, for a long time, Russell wasn't 439 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: that polarizing. We all just acknowledged that he was a 440 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: really good player. Two quarterbacks. To me, that beside Dak 441 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: and Cousins, that have been the most polarizing quarterbacks. And 442 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: that's just the nature of being, you know, between the 443 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: ten and fifteen mark, kind of being you know, better 444 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: than middle of the road, but not good enough to 445 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: be viewed as an elite player. Is Jimmy G and 446 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, And I just I looked it up before 447 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 1: I press record. Jimmy G has made one hundred and 448 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars and Derek Carr has made one 449 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five million dollars. These guys, when this 450 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: season ends, combined earnings will be over three hundred million dollars. 451 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: And I think if you just asked the average fan, 452 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: they would say both guys are kind of below average. 453 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: I think both guys have low approval ratings right now 454 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: just in terms of being good players. Here's what I 455 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: say about Jimmy Garoppolo. I've seen him now. His team 456 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: was really good and his play caller was really good. 457 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: But he's been a part of a lot of wins 458 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: in his career. And Derek, like I had a front 459 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: row seat for the Raiders when they were in Oakland, 460 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: like it was a circus, like it can be not 461 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: the easiest place to just operate. If you're a normal 462 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: successful individual, it can eat you a live right, and 463 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: I saw Derek handle it pretty seamlessly. Now both guys 464 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: clearly Kyle was over him and Josh McDaniels was over Derek. 465 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: They get pretty big contracts. Jimmy's making twenty five this year, 466 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: Derek's making thirty. Both have a chance to kind of, 467 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: I don't want to say, resurrect their career. Derek definitely does. Actually, 468 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can just get Dennis Allen, whose 469 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: career records pretty terrible. Now, granted in Oakland it was hard. 470 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: Last year with the Saints was pretty embarrassing. I know 471 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: their quarterback situation was kind of in flo But if 472 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: Derek can get the Saints back to the playoffs, as 473 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: he should, they should win the division. I'm sure if 474 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: you've listened to anyone talking about football, they've gone over 475 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: their opponents. Their quarterbacks are playing are pretty bad. Honestly, 476 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: they should win eleven games minimum. And if he does that, 477 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: like it'd be a pretty big muscle flex for Derek. Somehow, 478 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: he got the Raiders back to the playoffs a couple 479 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: times during his tenure. And then he goes to the 480 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: Saints that you know had fallen on some hard times 481 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: and helps them get back to the playoffs. And same 482 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: thing with Jimmy g Right, it would be big for 483 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, who for a long time was once he 484 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: kind of got the Denver stink off of him. They 485 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: were having success again in New England. People wanted to 486 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: hire him, and the indie thing happens. He kept turning 487 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: people down. I thought, and listen, I might have been 488 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: naives the wrong way to put it, but just assumed 489 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: that he had figured it out. I'd be like, I 490 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: think Josh mcdam's gonna be a good head coach. And 491 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: then last year, like, I don't know, man, you're getting 492 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: Derek off a really good year. You got a lot 493 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: of good players. What the hell was that? So if 494 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: jim and Jimmy Garoppolo compete to get a wildcard spot 495 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: they win nine ten games, be a pretty big moment 496 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: for both guys. One thing that's going to be a 497 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: point of discussion all season long is tanking, and the 498 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: NFL is not the NBA, where you know you intentionally tank. 499 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: Greg Popovich has done that for like five years. Absolute embarrassment. Obviously, 500 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: Sam Hinky did it for a long time. A ton 501 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: of teams do it, and it's it's got to stink 502 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: on the NBA, to be honest with you, because people 503 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: that the most valuable thing any of these leagues have 504 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: is their games and the time us as fans give 505 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 1: those games. And when you turn on the games and 506 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: the teams say we don't give a shit about the product, 507 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: you're basically just a middle finger to us, the consumer, 508 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: who literally pay the bills. So I think the good 509 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: part about the NFL is even if you suck, It's 510 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: not like coaches say this about Arizona, who I defe 511 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: for cutting Colton McCoy. Most people online acted like they 512 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: just cut Peyton Manning in his prime. Colt McCoy has 513 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: started like ten games a decade. Like, let's not act 514 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 1: like he's any good. But the Cardinals roster sucks. They 515 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: were terrible last year and they were trying to win. 516 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: A lot of teams that try to win are also bad. 517 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: It's not like Jonathan Gannon and his coaching staff are 518 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: gonna work three hour workdays. They're gonna try to win games. Now. 519 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: Maybe by the end of the season, they're just so 520 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: bad it won't even matter. But no one truly tanks 521 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: in the NFL. The Cardinals are gonna lose games because 522 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: they're really bad. Now, I think the curveball in this 523 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: season is the talent at quarterback in college football a 524 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: huge part. Like there's no point to tank if there 525 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: aren't sweet players. I'm all for losing games in December 526 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: if you got two or three wins and there are 527 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: incredible players in the draft, which based on a couple 528 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: of weeks in the college football season, technically just one. 529 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: I know it's week two coming up, but week zero 530 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't count. There is gonna be a lot of 531 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: talent in this draft at quarterback and in other positions. 532 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: But I think the word tanking and the tank for 533 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: Caleb and Drake May and Penix and just the countless quarterbacks. 534 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: If I had to guess right now, I would say 535 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: six quarterbacks go in the top fifty of this upcoming draft. 536 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: So it's a very very good quarterback draft. And anytime 537 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: you have a good quarterback draft, the bad teams get 538 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: associated with those guys. Now, what makes it unique with 539 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: Arizona is they got Kyler Murray and I know Lombardi 540 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: made some waves last week when he talked about them 541 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: not playing them because the injury guarantees. The Cardinals named 542 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray captain, and my spidery senses went off. Do 543 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: you know what they want to do? They want to 544 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: improve his value around the league, And they can't do 545 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: that because he can't play right now because he doesn't 546 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: have a torn acl anymore. But he's recovering off that injury. 547 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: So the only way you can increase his value around 548 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: the league is act like he's doing the right things. 549 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not saying he's not doing the right things. 550 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: He's probably attempting to be a really good guy to 551 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: come in early, maybe even watch a little film. But 552 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: when you name him a team captain, you're kind of saying, listen, 553 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: he's turned a new leaf. Better guy, Come get him. 554 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: Because I'll promise you this, if they can get out 555 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: of that contract, they will get out of that contract 556 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: so fast your head would spin. And I don't know 557 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: if they end up playing him this year, I would 558 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: imagine they don't. Now, Kyler can make it a stink 559 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: really fast. But Kyler has the balance of making a 560 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: stink and just if they leaked. I want to play. 561 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: That doesn't make Kyler look like a bad guy. That 562 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: would turn it on Arizona. So things could get very weird. 563 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: But if they are headed toward the number one overall 564 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: pick like that is a pretty valuable thing. But having 565 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick or having the number two 566 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: overall pick, you could argue you're gonna get a star 567 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: quarterback no matter what. So I think the Kyler situation 568 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: is going to be very fascinating if they can kind 569 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: of rehab his image. And even if he doesn't play 570 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: this year, he's fully healthy, he's gonna have a trademarket. 571 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: He was the number one overall pick whatever four years ago. 572 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: He is a remarkable talent when he's been healthy. Listen, 573 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan, but I've never disputed how 574 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: talented he is. I'm not a Trey Lance fan because 575 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't think the guy can play. I know Kyler 576 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: Murray can play like Kyler Murray is not just an 577 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: NFL player when he's right. He's a high end NFL player. 578 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: Now more comes with that at quarterback, but teams are 579 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: desperate for quarterbacks, and one thing Kyler Murray would give 580 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: you with some life with your franchise and the potential 581 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: he's proven, like he can lead a team to the playoffs. 582 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: That's something that none of these quarterbacks in the draft 583 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: are gonna be able to say. Now. I would much 584 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 1: rather have one of the guys in the draft when 585 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: you factor in their contract, than taking on Kyler Murray's whatever. 586 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: He has left one hundred and fifty million dollars and 587 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, just still some of the question mark. I 588 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: don't think you just all of a sudden you're some 589 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: film guru. But that's definitely a storyline that is just 590 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: gonna be all season long. I also think some other 591 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: teams are gonna throw their hat in the ring. Right 592 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: if Houston any good? I mean, I think Houston infory. 593 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: They should be improved, but who knows, Maybe they're competing 594 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: to be a top team. I think Caroline is gonna 595 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: stink their offensive line. If they can't block anybody, they 596 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: don't have any weapons. That could be a disaster. The Rams. 597 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: I have them circled for being gone awful and people 598 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: are already talking about it, and rightfully so are they. 599 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: Are they a team that could trade Aaron Donald? Why 600 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: not blow the thing up? Compete to get Caleb Williams. 601 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: You don't think Stan Kronk, who just a couple of 602 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: years built the stadium that an he wins the Super Bowl, 603 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind a big star again with this franchise. So 604 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: I think I got them circled big time. I do 605 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: think two teams. I mentioned him a little earlier. You know, 606 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: in the AFC, there's so many you know, the Rogers 607 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: story has kind of played out this point because of 608 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: hard knocks. We've been talking about it for six months straight. 609 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: The AFC East is going to be a fascinating division, 610 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: and beside the Chiefs, there are clearly six seven teams 611 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: who we probably feel can compete to not just make 612 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: the championship Game, but represent the AFC in the super Bowl. 613 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: That is not the case in the NFC. Right, Honestly, 614 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: I would imagine if you talk to most people, they 615 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't even include the Cowboys. I do, but the two 616 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: teams that they'd be like, I could see a rematch, right, 617 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: Eagles forty nine Ers. Well, here's what I know about 618 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: both teams. They're gonna get treated like they're a champion 619 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: level team by every team that plays them. So every 620 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: team that plays them is gonna approach them like, I mean, 621 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: it's one of the biggest games for their season, right 622 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: when you're playing the forty nine ers and you're playing 623 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: the Eagles, and Kyle like kind of went all in 624 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: on Purty, and I don't blame him. Purty was easily 625 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: the best quarterback he's had since he was with the 626 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. When they got Purty with Christian McCaffrey, 627 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: they were scoring well over thirty points a game. I 628 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: saw Mike Tomlin say that the difference when Jimmy Garoppolo 629 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: and Brock Purty was a ten point difference, or maybe 630 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: it was when they acquired Christian McCaffrey. But then you know, 631 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: Rock Purdy got the majority of Christian McCaffrey. They were 632 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: averaging thirty points game. Are those teams just gonna keep 633 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: the train on the tracks? Just be twelve, thirteen to 634 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: fourteen win team, No problem, Because I've seen the forty 635 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: nine ers. Shit can get weird quick. The Eagles and 636 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: they got two new coordinators, Jalen. They gave all this money. Now, 637 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: I bet on Jalen. I think he's the type guy 638 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: you've been on. But you know there's gonna be a 639 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: ton of pressure on him, a ton of and their 640 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: division is really really difficult. If Washington is the worst 641 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: team in your division, you have a fantastic division. The 642 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: talent on that team is I mean pretty freaking loaded. Whoever, 643 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: when they fire Ron River at the end of the 644 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: year and they hire someone like it's a pretty desirable job, 645 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: get a quarterback, you figure it out, and you start 646 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: rolling because they got talent and they hell, they beat 647 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles last year. So I think those two teams 648 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: fending people off, even though the NFC is clearly not 649 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 1: as talented as the AFC is gonna be. Just when 650 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles and forty nine ers play, I mean, we're 651 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: all paying attention. They're clearly two of the biggest draws 652 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and they clearly have two of the 653 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: best runs in the NFL, if not the two best rosters. 654 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: So I'm just fascinated to watch those two teams speaking 655 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: about a roster that is just incredible job retooling it 656 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: their draft last year, hit it out of the park. 657 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: I think the question with Seattle is because player for 658 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: player skill guys, high end players, young tackles. They got 659 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: some good young defenders. They get Bobby Wagner back. The 660 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: roster's legit is Gino Smith. Just back. He's just gonna 661 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: be a consistent Pro Bowl level guy. Because I'm thirty 662 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: eight years old, been watching the NFL for a long time. 663 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: Is that just the way the NFL works? A guy 664 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: like this just shitty shitty, shitty, bad, backup, back up, 665 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden gets in his early thirties, 666 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: gets an opportunity to start, goes on a four year run. 667 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: Last guy I can remember that happening too is Ridge Cannon. Now, 668 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: he went on to win an MVP and was remarkable 669 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 1: for the Raiders. But if Gino pulls this off and 670 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: just maintains a high level of play, and anytime you 671 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: hear him interviewed or talk, it's very understandable. How he 672 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: maximized his career, his mindset, his outlook on life, slashed 673 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: the game. How good of a teammate, What a high 674 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: level guy. He's an easy individual to root for. I've 675 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: never heard him talk since he took over at Seattle, 676 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: and he's like, God, I really like Geno Smith. But 677 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: from a football standpoint, it's not that normal to do 678 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: what he's doing. So last year in some big moments 679 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: like didn't quite look the same. Now they add the 680 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: Ohio state wide receiver, they add another running back, their 681 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: offensive line should be really good. They got DK's a stud. 682 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: Lockett feels like the most underrated player of the last 683 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: decade in the NFL. It's all air for him, man. 684 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: But and if he keeps doing it, it's one of 685 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: truly the great comeback stories we've ever seen. And like 686 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: Gino said, they wrote me off, I just didn't right back. 687 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: It's hard to beat that line. Speaking of another quarterback 688 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: who took the league by storm. He just was, I mean, 689 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: won the MVP. It was just one of the more 690 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: fun players to watch. If I you know, I haven't 691 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: played really video games since I was in college. But 692 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: if I still played video games three four years ago, 693 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: I would have been the Ravens and I would have 694 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: ran around with Lamar Jackson until you caught me, because 695 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: I used to do that when I was in high 696 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: school with Michael Vick. You'd be the Falcons and you 697 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: would be Michael Vick and you would trade for a 698 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: sweet wide receiver and you'd just run around and it 699 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: was awesome once you get paid this money. The team's 700 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: mindset of you changes because they go can I just 701 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to just run you NonStop because I 702 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: can't risk you getting injured. Because I'm paying you a 703 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: ton of coin. You got guaranteed a lot of money. 704 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: I need you. The health of our organization depends on 705 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: you being healthy, on you being around, and you being successful. 706 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: So part of Lamar now is like, is he just 707 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: are they gonna have a throwing offense? I'm just fascinated 708 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: to see what their offense looks like because forever Todd, 709 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: Munkin and everything coming out of the Ravens was like, 710 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna pass more, We're gonna spread it out. Are 711 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: they just saying that or are they actually gonna live it? 712 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: Because coaches say a lot of things and then do another. 713 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: Is it still gonna have resemblance of what the offense 714 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: look like, you know a couple of years ago with 715 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: I would call it much more collegiate of their running 716 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: attack or does their offense look much more like a 717 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: lot of other NFL offenses. Clearly he's still gonna run 718 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: and scramble, But is his running ability what they lean 719 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: on or do they go four or five wide? And 720 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: some of those could be tight ends right and just 721 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: slinging around NonStop. It's gonna be fascinating to watch. I mean, 722 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: he's I don't want to say he's not really that polarizing, 723 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: because he's really one of the more likable guys. But 724 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: just his situation last year with the injury, they're not 725 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: paying them. They finally pay him, they capitulate. Now they're 726 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: all on the same page. Everything's hunky dory. They add 727 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, they draft a wide receiver last year, so 728 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: got Mark Andrews. I'm fascinating to watch the Ravens. I mean, 729 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: that's the best part about the NFL. It's why it 730 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: really shines is so many teams are interesting, so many 731 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: individuals players are interesting. It's obviously a quarterback league. Speaking 732 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: at quarterbacks, Kirk Cousins last year of his contract, there 733 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: were some rumors this off season they thought about unloading him. 734 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: Minnesota tried to trade for Trey Lance around the draft. 735 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers wouldn't do it. Actually, it a 736 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: weird way made the right decision because they ended up 737 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: getting a better pick than Minnesota clearly would have give 738 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: of them out of Dallas. But it's pretty obvious that 739 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: Minnesota does not want to give Cousins another contract, right, 740 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: they don't want it because it's gonna be more money 741 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: than what he signed for previously. And it's like, do 742 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: we want to give a guy at thirty five years 743 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: old two or three years at forty three forty four 744 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: million dollars? Kirk Cousins likes his money guaranteed. Now here's 745 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: the problem for the Vikings. How do you upgrade? It's 746 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: a great quarterback draft, but your team's not gonna suck. 747 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: Even if you don't make the playoffs this year. You're 748 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: not a four win team. You might not be a 749 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: thirteen win team, but you win eight to ten games, 750 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: and that puts you in the middle ground. Now might 751 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: be a deep enough quarterback draft. Do you draft one 752 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: of those guys in the middle of the first round 753 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: or you know, pick nineteen or twenty or whatever. But 754 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: it is very, very hard to upgrade when you have 755 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: that group right starts with like Dak and Cousins or 756 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: Cousins and Dak, Jimmy Carr. We've seen it over and 757 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: over and over. You don't upgrade. The forty nine ers 758 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: attempted to do it, and Trey Lance couldn't sniff beating 759 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: out Jimmy Garoppolo. Now he goes to the Cowboys. Dak 760 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: Prescott's in a different universe than him. The Raiders get 761 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: rid of Derek Carr, what'd they do? They had Jimmy Garoppolo. 762 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: So those quarterbacks are all kind of the same because 763 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: you can't just like, there's no just landing Trevor Lawrence, 764 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: there's no just signing Justin Herbert, right, you usually don't 765 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to draft those guys, especially if you're 766 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: not drafting the top two or three picks. So I 767 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: do think Minnesota's in this weird spot where it feels 768 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: like they've already moved on from Cousins. I would expect 769 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: Cousins to have another really good statistical year. It's not 770 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: like he's gonna retire. But were they just gonna let 771 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: him walk? You're just gonna say, see it, What the 772 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: fuck are they gonna How do you look at the 773 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: fan base and go, listen, guys, we all acknowledge we 774 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: would love to have one of the top ten guys. 775 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: But Cousins is like eleven or twelve. He has his flaws, 776 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: but he's clearly pretty good. If you watch the documentary, 777 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: on Netflix. He's actually pretty likable. He does gives you 778 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 1: everything he has to be as good as he can 779 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: be at NFL football. I mean literally dedicates his life 780 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: lays on the line. Just seems like a hardworking, geeky 781 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: just the type guy you would want you never have 782 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: to worry about. Yeah, we'll just move on and do 783 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: what good trade for Kyler. Attempt to draft a guy 784 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: at nineteen, Well, the chances history of the league would 785 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: say guy's not gonna be as good as cousins. So 786 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: I do think they're kind of in this weird spot 787 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: that I don't think we really have an answer to. 788 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean a couple other I can see 789 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: this coming from a mile away. This isn't NFL, but 790 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: this is college. And I think now with the amount 791 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: of money that these colleges pay their coaches, like Texas, 792 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: if Sark doesn't win this year, that job is gonna 793 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: become available either this year or next. So if Texas 794 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: becomes available again, they're gonna stop trying to get on 795 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: this hamster wheel of hiring the Sarks and hiring the 796 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,479 Speaker 1: Tom Herman's, Like they will offer one hundred and fifty 797 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: million dollars right Florida. They call him Sunbelt Billy. That 798 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 1: thing is a disaster right now. They got fucking worked 799 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: by Utah. They didn't even that. The thing didn't even 800 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: look close. Now he has a thirty million dollar buyout? 801 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: Does he last another year? Those are two jobs that 802 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 1: even if they rolled it over, it's got dem standards 803 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: written all over it. Both those two teams are gonna 804 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: want to go big. Obviously. Texas will be in the 805 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: SEC with Florida. Both those budgets have an enormous amount 806 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: of money. Texas has more in Florida, but Florida is 807 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: not afraid to pay. I got Deon Sanders like, I'm 808 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: not rushing him out of Colorado. I think for sure, 809 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 1: I don't know this. I mean, I'm just gonna assume 810 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: Shador is there for two years to play with Travis, 811 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: to play with his dad, to play with his brother Shiloh. 812 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: But I think Dion's gonna come in such demand with 813 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: the Big Boys or Texas. Obviously, he lived in Dallas 814 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: for a long time, played for the Cowboys, you know, 815 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: and I do think, you know, if McCarthy thing ever 816 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: got weird the next couple of years, Prime Prime might 817 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 1: be the real deal, and sometimes people push back. People 818 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: push back, and then it's just like, yeah, this is 819 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 1: this is is what it is. Has a little Jim 820 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: Harbaugh field to it, like, yeah, he's a little quirky, 821 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: He's different than all these other coaches. His shit works, right, 822 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: So I already got a couple of program circle. The 823 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: other thing, I read this article the other day from 824 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: one of the big blogs at Ohio State, and one 825 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: thing that it mentioned because this guy was being very 826 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: critical of Ryan Day, and Ohio State has five assistants, 827 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: the two coordinators and three other assistants that make over 828 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: a million dollars. Their defensive coordinator makes about two heartline 829 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,720 Speaker 1: isn't even the opsive coordinator. He makes like one to seven. 830 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: Their on line d line coach both make a million. Obviously, 831 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Day makes a ton. That program pumps as much 832 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 1: money into their football as most NFL teams. Clearly Ohio State. 833 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: I would put Ohio State, you might name them number one. 834 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: Bam would be up there. I think Georgia now too. 835 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: Of just like we operate like the NFL, there is 836 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: no cost, we circumvent whatever you need, We got you. 837 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: This means everything to us. And I know he made 838 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 1: the playoffs last year and easily could have beat Georgia 839 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 1: in a fantastic game. But he does not feel like Saban, 840 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: He does not feel like Urban, He does not feel 841 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: like he's just got the job forever. And he is 842 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: a nine and three season away from just people turn 843 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: on and you get turned on, right, you can just 844 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: suck at your job and people can move on from you. 845 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: But the moment you start making a ton of money, 846 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: if things are going well, no one thinks twice you're 847 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: earning that, right. You pay a premium for a premium, 848 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: but you start getting paid a ton of money and 849 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: things start getting weird, like, yeah, I don't know if 850 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: this is working out, we might have to go in 851 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: a different direction. And I just to me, Sark and 852 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: Billy Napier are different than Ryan Day. He's made the playoffs, 853 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: he's had success, but their standard at Ohio State, you 854 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: could argue, is just unfairly high. And that's a program 855 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: with how much money everyone's cutting, with how much pressure 856 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: there is. Now he's losing to Michigan. You know, it's 857 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: just something to keep an eye on. Now. I don't 858 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: know would they hire Prime in like two years if 859 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: they moved on from Ryan Day. I don't know, Prime 860 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: feels more like Texas or Florida, but who knows. I 861 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: mean they will, There's no amount of money they won't spend, 862 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: really so, and I don't think we're that far away 863 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: from potentially ever seeing like a coach in the NFL 864 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: gets stolen to college, Like here's twenty million dollars, here's 865 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars, Come take our job. It hasn't happened, 866 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: and maybe it never does. But these colleges, especially the 867 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: big boys, have budgets that can go toe to toe 868 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: with the owners. Okay, that should do it. Till tomorrow's 869 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 1: podcast leading in to the opening game, Chiefs hosting the Alliance, 870 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, Jared Goff, Mahomes and maybe nobody else. Just 871 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: Mahomes out there playing by himself, Travis Kelce injured, Chris 872 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: Jones sitting on his couch and all of us watching. 873 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: So hell, I'd watch Patrick Mahomes throw passes, Dandy Reid. 874 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: Let's enjoy yourself. Let's continue to have a good week, 875 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: and thanks for listening and check out. We got way 876 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: more content coming today tomorrow not stopping Baby Football's back. 877 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: The volume