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Speaker 1: Hey, we welcome in. I'm done. Godly, this is all ball,

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Speaker 1: all basketball, all the time, sort of. We talk a

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Speaker 1: lot of other stuff as well, including part two of

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Speaker 1: our of our talk with the new Predator, Dane de

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Speaker 1: a ton of great stories that he's already told us

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Speaker 1: in in uh part one and more here in part two.

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Speaker 1: Really really fun and interesting stuff. Before we get to

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Speaker 1: part two with Dane, I did want to give you

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Speaker 1: that's long been discussed, long been desired by the NBA,

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Speaker 1: the college basketball coaches forever have said, why don't we

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Speaker 1: an inherently different sport. Um, I totally understand that. I

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Speaker 1: understand that. Basketball is why are differently. That the tradition,

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Speaker 1: They want more draft picks as well, which of course

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Speaker 1: There's a there's a lack of sustainability, I believe, to

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Speaker 1: changing from the D League to the g league is

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Speaker 1: It helps the teams, but they have don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: they lose money. This is not a money maker. Um,

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Speaker 1: just not. And the weird thing that I haven't heard

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Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't matter that the players are better

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Speaker 1: baseball model. Sounds Great, but does Anybody Watch College Baseball

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Speaker 1: outside the College Baseball World Series? The answer is no,

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Speaker 1: and you don't want to. You don't want that to

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Speaker 1: think turning college football or basketball in a minor league

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It seemed to work for a long

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Speaker 1: my discussion with the new star of the new dangelegro.

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Speaker 1: So you have you finally got this passport, you get

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Speaker 1: good friends and he's just he I don't even think

426
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 1: he realizes how much he inspired me. When, Um, when

427
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: you tell me the Israel story with your knee. Oh

428
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I mean, yeah, it's not. There's not really

429
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: much to tell that. I went. So I year what

430
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: you go? So that was year when Ostoony Sassery Trie

431
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: Este up in the northeast. That was cool city. It was.

432
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: It was like it's the last city before he hits Slovenia. Um,

433
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: back to second division. I averaged like twelve and eight

434
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: that season. We weren't that good but um, we saved

435
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: ourselves from relegation because the bottom team in the league

436
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: goes down to division and we saved ourselves. Uh. And

437
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: then from there I went to Israel. I signed with

438
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: Gilboa Gilio, first division, in my agent, obvis Zilberman Oman,

439
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: don't worry, like you. Then you saw it was Jim's partners.

440
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: Don't wor we put you on Gilbo. You average him

441
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: ten in seven. Next year I put you McCoy Televiv.

442
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: No problem, easy, easy, you'll do set the screen then

443
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: Riman and everybody will be happy, you know, and like okay, Great.

444
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: So I have to go to Gilboa, do decent and

445
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: then I'll play from a copy next year and then

446
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: Nokia arena. I'll be living in Tel Aviv, I mean

447
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: a celebrity in in Israe. Was gonna be amazing. And

448
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: second game of the season I tore my a C

449
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: L against Jerusalem. Um. I went up for a rebound

450
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: and I just came down on my knee funny and

451
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: it went. It went too far in. Um. No, nothing,

452
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: it just it just. I just remember coming down and

453
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: being like Whoa, my name went too far in and

454
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: I I stood up because I was playing well, and

455
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 1: remember the Tony Gaffney on their team. Who Else is

456
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: on that team? But I stood up and I was like,

457
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: don't be a bitch, don't be a bitch, keep playing.

458
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: You're you're like this is like this is a big

459
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: opportunity to Jerusalem, and I started to walk in my

460
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: knee just like wasn't working right, and then I was

461
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: like I gotta come out of the game. So funny said,

462
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: don't be a bitch. I was. I hung out with

463
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: the University of Texas and their their first rule on

464
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: their team is don't be a bit, don't be a bit.

465
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: It's it's like, I mean you, you could throw that.

466
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: That's saying that a lot of things in life. Absolutely,

467
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: I completely agree. And it's it's actually I had my

468
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: my my son with the workout last night and we

469
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: only had seven shop at our practice whatever, and so

470
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: I had him at the end playing three on three full.

471
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: Oh No, and so he was dying and he was

472
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: like I can't even think. I go, do you know why?

473
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: Because I'm just stupid, and I go no, dude, because

474
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: you're tired. You're fucking tired, and when you're tired you

475
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: can't think, you can't you can't make shots, you can't

476
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: do anything. You know, he's like he's like. So I's

477
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: just like stop. I was like no, he cannot be

478
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: a bit. You'll be a bit. Like it's a good

479
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: rule at Um, like just if he just hey, I'm

480
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: being a bit right. So I'm not a big technical guy,

481
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: but you know, I can't give him the manual, but

482
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: just just figure it out, Dude. I don't know, like

483
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: there's no just be tough. I have one tattoo on

484
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: my wrist. It says that's it. Work Harder. It's not

485
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: going anywhere. That's it. Okay, just work harder. That's all, um. So, yeah,

486
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: so then my knee. So whatever, ten month recovery and

487
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: UH yeah, the whole knee situation. I mean, I don't know,

488
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: I think so. So here's what I here's what I

489
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: recall you telling me, because I tried to get you

490
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: to come to play the Maccabi Games with me in

491
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: thirteen and you were like I can't. I was like

492
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: what I mean? You can't? You're still playing. No, I

493
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: can't play in Israel because I get benefits. I tore

494
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: my knee as an Israeli citizen. That's correct. So there

495
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: was there. I'm not get any in trouble. By the way,

496
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: by by this spot. No, no, no, it's true. And like,

497
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: do you still get the benefits? I do because it

498
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: altered my career. But it wasn't, didn't you get determined

499
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: to be a career inting injury? Well, no, career altering injury.

500
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: I lost money. I lost I lost money from that

501
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: injury and I like, so we have. They had a lawyer,

502
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: my team stopped paying me and my payment went into

503
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: the this like Israelly Fund or whatever. But we we

504
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: just we asserted that, like, if I never got hurt,

505
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: I would have gone on to keep playing in Israel

506
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: heavy stead. I was going to pay and and you

507
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: know in the you know. So, yeah, but it's true, like,

508
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean even to this day I still feel the

509
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: lasting effects from that injury on my knee. And when

510
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: I got back, I went to see I went to

511
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: play in Sienna Um and then I went to play

512
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: in Verona and like I still like my knee definitely

513
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: affected me. So we we launched this case. That just

514
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: like it, that it changed my career and I might

515
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: still be under deliberation exactly how it all. It's all

516
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: working out. But uh, I mean, if I never got hurt, man,

517
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: I would like probably still be playing in Israel right

518
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: now in some capacity. Um, your your last two years

519
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: you played, Um. So. Then I so from the Verona

520
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: and then there was the last one, four Lee. Yeah,

521
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: four Lee is uh near Bologna. It's in Romagna. Um.

522
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: So I played there. And then what's what's interesting, is

523
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: I had a one plus one in four lead and

524
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: they they cut it. They released me after my first year. Okay, fine.

525
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: So I went home and I'm like, I want to

526
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: play in Japan. Japan is good money. Once a week.

527
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: What's yeah, yeah, and the the Americans just run the

528
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: show over there. It's good, like technology money, all that.

529
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: You know, I've never been to Japan. I want to

530
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: play in Osaka, the food capital Japan. So I hired

531
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: this Um Italian um agent. Her name was Deborah, and

532
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: met she sent me to she sent me to l

533
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: a for this tryout and I did really well and then,

534
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: like when it's coming around as signing time, late August,

535
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: she just like disappeared. She went a vacation and I

536
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm not signed, it's not and there

537
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: a whole falling out and I had been pushing away

538
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: Italian teams because I was so hell bent up playing

539
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: in Japan that now it's September and the Italian teams

540
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: are full. You know, I've fired this woman and we're

541
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: not working together anymore, and now I'm stuck. So I

542
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: trained for until I didn't sign until February. I went

543
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: back to four Lee, who essentially waives me the year before,

544
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: and it's like you dumbasses, might just keep me on

545
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: the team like now, because they were struggling. Um, yeah,

546
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: and then I played from February to May and then

547
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: at the I was just done. I was just like,

548
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: I was like, how are you I at the time? Oh, man,

549
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: thirty thirty, I think thirty one. Okay, so you so

550
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: you're flying back middle flying back, but like, so, okay,

551
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: before all of this, I want to host culinary travel

552
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: television when I'm done playing basketball. That was my unscripted

553
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: you and I should do this show, but I'm listen,

554
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm all ears for for this. Um. So when I

555
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: it started, when I went to Israel in two fourteen,

556
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: I started creating food content overseas, because are going to

557
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: go into eat things, both both cooking things and then

558
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: like getting lost finding food and just like that, like

559
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: street food and all that stuff because, like, to the

560
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: American audience, who doesn't get who don't get to go

561
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: to Europe? Who Don't get to go to Israel and

562
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: Experience Rathschild Boulevard or or you know whatever, Europe is

563
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: easy because it shoots itself. Do you don't like America?

564
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: You'RE gonna get real creative, because everyone's seen this ship.

565
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: When you go to Europe, do you just show what's there?

566
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: It's amazing, you know. So I'm building this content thing.

567
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: I want to host unscripted culinary travel television. So I

568
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: start making all this content and then so when my

569
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: my final season in four Lee, I like I still

570
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: this throughout this whole process. I'm I'm trying to figure

571
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: out what am I gonna do once basketball and that

572
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: was my question about your ride home, and I'm looking

573
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: for that thing to do. What am I going to

574
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: so like I want something that's different projects all the time. So,

575
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: like for basketball, it's different seasons, which is which is nice.

576
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: I want to do something that require us, me to

577
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: stay in shape all the time. Okay, just like pro basketball,

578
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: and I want something as equal or as good of

579
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: pay as playing professional basketball. Right. So I'm home in

580
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: Boston and I'm I'm like, I still don't have anything set.

581
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: So I'm training for the next season of basketball and

582
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: I got a phone call in July from Boston casting

583
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: who had my information because I think I sent in

584
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: a video. I saw an ad in the newspaper of

585
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: few years before my mom did for Slenderman, the movie

586
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: slender man, and I sent in an audition tape. So

587
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: they just had my information from years before and they

588
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: called me and said, hey, we're shooting this movie in

589
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: Boston called Free Guy With Ryan Reynolds and the big

590
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: bad guys, this six FT eight muscle man, and we

591
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: need you as a stand in. And I'm thinking, what

592
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: the Hell's a stand in? And so I go down

593
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: a set and I've never been on a movie set

594
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: before and I'm thinking, okay, I don't know what this

595
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: is or what her and while I'm there. So what

596
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: time of years? This is July and I'm still training

597
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: every day. I go to Harvard by what's that? Yeah, Oh,

598
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: no question. Um, I'm still training every day at Harvard

599
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: University preparing for the next season. But every time I'd

600
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: see Tommy America Walk Through the gym into the office.

601
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: You Go, Dane Man, I wish we could have had

602
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: you like Tommy. You could have. I would have went

603
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: to Harvard in a heartbeat. I wish like but they

604
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: never offered me at the time. But, like is, he

605
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: always hung that over my head and it's still to

606
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: this day bugs me. I would have loved to go

607
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: to Harvard, but Um, so, yeah, so, and while I

608
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: was there, the stunt coordinator comes up and he goes, look,

609
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't know who you are, but your size, the

610
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: way you're built, the way you move, like you need

611
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: to be an actor. You just because you're you're tall,

612
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: but you're proportionately tall and dad, DA, Da Da, and

613
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: I you know, Oh wow, and interesting. I never thought

614
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: about that. And so like a standing. Okay, so you're

615
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: a standing as someone who stands there. I know I

616
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: mean listener for the listener some but I think people

617
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 1: know right. You just stand it. But again, how about this?

618
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: So tell me what like the day of a standing

619
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: that you're actually so it's interesting because you're very close

620
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: to the main actors on set, whereas if you're an

621
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: extra in a movie, they kind of like corral you,

622
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: like like steer like cows and like, Oh, like like

623
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: background holding like you're. The goal of my life has

624
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: to never be in a place called holding. They have

625
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: background holding, where they're like and they're like they are,

626
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: they're standing. You're right there on set with the directors,

627
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: with the producer, with the main actors, because when they

628
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: need you to, when they set up the lights for

629
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: the scene, and you stand there while they set up

630
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: the lights. Because how dare the main actors stand there

631
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: when they're not shooting or anything? They go and sit

632
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: down and rest, and which I appreciate and I understand

633
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: it's also part of the union thing, right. There's only

634
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: certain em vows are at something like that potentially. So

635
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: have to know the actor's lines. You have to know

636
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: they're blocking and they're blocking well, because they're you're they

637
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: shoot with the stand ins to figure out the lighting

638
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: before and you have to know exactly what that actor

639
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: so how do you how do you deal with the lines?

640
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: They never used me. They never used me that day.

641
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: I stood one day. One day I stood on the side.

642
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: Did you meet Ryan Rayls? I saw him. Yeah, I

643
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: saw him. Or do you meet him? I did not

644
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: talk to him here. I got I was standing too

645
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: close to him because his daughter was there. On set.

646
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: I was standing apparently too close to him because, excuse me,

647
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: I was behind him and I saw him look back

648
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: at me and I was a little too close and

649
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: he he called the p a over and a p

650
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: a he whispered something to him and then Pa went

651
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: right at me, he goes, it seems there. Can you

652
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: back up about ten paces, and I was just like paces, yeah,

653
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: like just like I understand, but they actually used the

654
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: word paces. I don't know, steps, paces. I'm just I'm

655
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: in fascinating, like who uses the word paces? I don't know,

656
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: but this there was just some like seven teen year

657
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: old day a kid that like Ryan. Okay, so back up.

658
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: So that and I go and I sit in the

659
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: producer's chair because I'm thinking like who's this gigantic funk up?

660
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: WHO's this? WHO's this giant WHO's sitting in my chair?

661
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: So the P A, who had just walked away from

662
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: me after he give me orders, looks, glances over his

663
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: shoulder and sees me sitting down and like Sean Levy's

664
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: seed or whatever, and sprints as police sir, can you

665
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: get up and just get away from this area? And

666
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: I learned real quick never sit in uh someone's chair

667
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: that has their name on it. That is like a

668
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: big I didn't know. I know, I've never been on

669
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: the movie set before. I'm like, I'm from Lexington Massachusetts,

670
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: on a six eight white Jewish guy who went to

671
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: New Hampshire. I've never been on a movie set. I

672
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: don't know how it works. Um. So, anyway, so the sun,

673
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, I start I'm board. So I started talking

674
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: to Ryan Reynolds, stunt double, his name is Daniel Stevens,

675
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: and the sun coordinator's names Christal Harah, and we're just

676
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: chip chatting shooting the ship about basketball and blah, blah blah,

677
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: and that's when the suggestion came look, you should look

678
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: into acting. You have a you know. So I was

679
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: going to l a the next week anyway, to pitch

680
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: culinary travel television. I wrote a treatment and there was

681
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: a producer that I was working with and while I

682
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: was there, I reached out to some producers and, you know,

683
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: people in the Biz and I said, Hey, you know,

684
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: I'm Dangelegro, six eight basketball player, getting me in town

685
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: pitching a show. Would love to meet with you, and

686
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: cutting a lot of stuff out because it's a long story,

687
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: but I ended up booking a Netflix show two weeks

688
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: later called sweet home. Um, it was it was a

689
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: Korean it was the it was the squid game the

690
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: year before squid game came out. So, yeah, I played

691
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: muscle monster in this show and I'm like, Huh, acting,

692
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: this is interesting. So when I flew home from that

693
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: initial l a trip, I told my mom I'm going

694
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: back to l a the next week to talk to

695
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: more producers, and that's when I booked this show. It

696
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: was like and then, yeah, it was a crazy thing.

697
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, okay, I guess I'm talking to

698
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: my brother's like why don't you just live in l

699
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: a for a month and try out this acting thing

700
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: and then you just go back to basketball? Sure, no problem.

701
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: So I go and I end up going to Korea

702
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: for a month to shoot this Netflix show and I

703
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: did a really good job and I came back and

704
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: then the pandemic hit and now I can't go back

705
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: to basketball and I'm stuck in this tiny l a

706
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: apartment that I thought I'd be here for, you know,

707
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: a month or whatever. and Um, do you make good

708
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: money when you're doing that? When you did this the

709
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: Netflix show, like yeah, that was a non union job.

710
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: So they gave him a number and they took it.

711
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: So I had a stunt Um agent advising me on

712
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. But yeah, I mean even as

713
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: a union actor in just the normal acting whether if

714
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: you're making scale, that's that's like a thousand, one thousand

715
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: thirty dollars a day. Now, if you're working every day

716
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: as a scale actor, making pretty good money. Um, no

717
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: complaints there. So it's yeah, it's decent money. If you

718
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: what was the what was the language barrier? Like you

719
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: had to Korea. I had three translators. Oh, this is

720
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: a funny story. So I go to Korea and I'm

721
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: playing this character called muscle monster. I'm wearing this, you know,

722
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: pound foam late text costume that has four inches of

723
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: foam late texts around. He's like a mutated bodybuilder. Um,

724
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: and the creature shop that built this suit sent three

725
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: people over with me to kind of manage these suits

726
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: that I'm wearing. I think that I have two suits Um,

727
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: and they netflix provided these two translators for us, Kevin

728
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: and David, and I just remember Kevin. He was like

729
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: he looked like the Korean Harry Potter, but Kevin and

730
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: David grew up in New Zealand, so they were they

731
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: were Kiwi Koreans. Okay, the director, who was amazing, could

732
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: not speak English and I didn't understand the process of

733
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: acting and being on set and shooting a TV show.

734
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: Typically you get your when you come in in the morning.

735
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: They give you your sides, your like your lines, they

736
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: give you a call sheet and you go over all

737
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: of your lines and all of your action, everything you

738
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: have to do. So you can read that. When I

739
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: came in the morning, nothing, just go, go to make up,

740
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: get ready, Blah, blah, and I had my little tent

741
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: on set in this sound stage with like this huge

742
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: air conditioning tube that would go up my stomach to

743
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: keep me cool. And then they would say, okay, Dane, well,

744
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're shooting the scene now. You're gonna go,

745
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: Um uh, she's gonna hit you in the nuts with

746
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: a baseball bat and then you're gonna turn and smash

747
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: her into a wall. Sure, great, let's go do it. Awesome,

748
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: and you know, then you go shoot the scene or whatever,

749
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: but it was just it was interesting the way the

750
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: Korean hierarchy worked. So, Kevin, I could tell that let's

751
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: get ad, no business being on set. His Dad was

752
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: like a producer or something. He so Kiwi, Korean. So

753
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: we'd be on set and the director would tell him

754
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: something and he didn't understand that. Like, as a translator,

755
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: you have to tell me exactly what the director is saying,

756
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: because it's hard enough there's a director to explain to

757
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: your actor what you want. So this director will talk

758
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: to him cream and then he'd be everything started off

759
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: with basically, and he'd go so basically, the director like, okay,

760
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: so you're really angry and you're chosing this guy, but

761
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: you're hungry, but you can't show you angry because you're hungry.

762
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: So you turn the corner and you smash into the Kevin.

763
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: What the wait, wait, wait, what? You can't give me

764
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: the basics? You gotta tell me exactly what I have

765
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: to do with this guy. So okay, there, Shannon, my

766
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: was my liaison from L A. I gotta get another

767
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: translator because this is not I don't know what to do,

768
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: because I'd shoot a scene in the director like no, no no, no,

769
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: you can't it. So it was a whole it was

770
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: a whole thing. But now I have like Kevin's like Um,

771
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: New Zealand accent ingrained in my head basically from here.

772
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: So you basically Um, and so it was just but

773
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: I ended up doing a really good job and it

774
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. And so I come back

775
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: and like they were like you, you can do this,

776
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: you should. You know, it's about playing monsters, essentially, and

777
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: I always figured playing monsters is great because I can

778
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: leverage my athleticism to becoming an actor and then I

779
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: can leverage that into becoming an actual actor as a

780
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: backdoor into acting. Um. And I came back the pandemic hit.

781
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: Everything shutdown. Couldn't go back to basketball, obviously. Uh, you know,

782
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: Italy was going through their own thing at the time.

783
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: And Yeah, I'm now I'm in L A. The streets

784
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: are empty. I bought a road bike and I just

785
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: start riding to Manhattan beach and back every day from

786
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: West Hollywood. Fifty yeah, they're and back. Yeah, they're and back.

787
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: A home and home. Um, yeah, you ride to like

788
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: the Manhattan beach. Peering back, it's it's about fifty miles,

789
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: something like that. So I just did that. I would hike,

790
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: I would alternate. I'd hike one day, I'd bike the

791
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: next day and I laid down artificial grass in my

792
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: living room. It became my gym. Very functional, very functional

793
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: living room. Wasn't too hot with the ladies, but it

794
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: was good for me. I could do all my could

795
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: do all my movements in my training and everything. and Um,

796
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: then I booked uh to be master chief in the

797
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: xbox commercials for Halo and like you see, a fixed

798
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: built of one of one custom moll in your armor

799
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: for me to be master chief. And then things just

800
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: started moving. Walking dead looking dead was interesting. I just

801
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: walked in a circle for six hours in Calabasas. It

802
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: was really not that trying or difficult. Um, and then, yeah,

803
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: just like things start moving, the pandemics starting to I

804
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: was I was at the water world on show universal

805
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: studios to learn stunts and stuff like that. and Um,

806
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: and then I got a like a phone call. Meanwhile,

807
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't have a real theatrical agent. I'm doing everything.

808
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: Have your a real theatrical agent and you're looking for

809
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: a guy with incredible potential. His name is Dane, or

810
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: a manager or manager. Yeah, yeah, so I'm doing this all.

811
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: I'm getting all these jobs on my own, essentially. and Um,

812
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: this stunt agents helping me look over contracts, but essentially,

813
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm garnering everything on my own. How did

814
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: you get the Predator Gig? Okay, so then. Well, then

815
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: there was American horror stories. Is First. They named the

816
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: episode after me. That was just most of the stuff

817
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: is just on instagram. Someone a D M me big hey,

818
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: do you have a like? Are you around in May? Yeah,

819
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: I'm an. Do you want to be an American horror stories? Yeah, sure,

820
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: and that's how that's how, that's how it goes. There's

821
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: no there's really no audition, there's no like vetting process. Um,

822
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: in January of one I got a message on Instagram

823
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: from a guy named Alec Gillis, who who runs the

824
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: former studio a d I, and he said we need you,

825
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: I need you to come in for a design pitch

826
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: for a project, Um, we're working on in Canada, and

827
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking interesting and he, I think he offered me

828
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: launch or like two hundred bucks or something, and I

829
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: said keep keep your money, just whatever. The job has

830
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: put me in for it. Yeah, they're shooting in Canada.

831
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: L A's bringing in an L A guy. It's a

832
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: bad spend. You know that. You get tax relief when

833
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: you use a Canadian whatever. So I drive out to

834
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: Chatsworth to the studio and what's going to happen is

835
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: that he wants me to they're designing us a creature

836
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: suit for a show, a movie, and the director, the

837
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: director of photography and the producer going to come in

838
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: and watch how this suit moves and the design of

839
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: this head. And Alec told me he wanted me to

840
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: bring a balletics seltness to this character. Okay, what the

841
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: Hell is boletics felt this? So it's my job to

842
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: figure that out what that is. I get there and

843
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: there it is, laid on the table as the Predator

844
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: costume from the last movie. Now, did you? Did you?

845
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: Were you a Predator fan? Yeah, sure, absolutely. I mean

846
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: old school. You watched the old yes, of course. No,

847
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: when I when I moved to Los Angeles to do

848
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: this creature acting thing either. These are quotes, because I

849
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: do not want to be branded as a creature actor

850
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: because once you get put into that whole yes, but

851
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: I had two roles in mind that I wanted one.

852
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: Number two was to be a predator. I thought that

853
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: would have been the coolest thing of all time. Number

854
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: one is to be Jason Vorhees, because that he is

855
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: my ultimate horror icon. But to be a predator. I

856
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: was a Predator Fan. I knew all the actors, I

857
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: knew all the movies, I knew all the culture. I

858
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: was very excited. So I come in and there it is.

859
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: There's the Predator costume from the last movie laying out

860
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: in this table and Oh my God, and they had

861
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: this three d iteration of a Predator had they printed

862
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: out and they used like ropes as the dreads and

863
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that's kind of a Predator. It's kind of not.

864
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: It's gross, it's weird. It looks like an insect, it

865
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: looks like a bug. So they suited me up in

866
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: this suit that was way too small for me. I

867
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: remember it was cutting off circulation in my hands. My

868
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: hands were ballooning up and I was losing feeling in

869
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: my fingers and I couldn't see anything out of this gray,

870
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: three d printed plastic head. But Dan Trachtenberger, director, Jeff Cutter,

871
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: Marta young they all come into the shop and I

872
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: gave what I thought was Baltic smelting this and I'm

873
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: thinking for Um. So this is like like like a Ballerina,

874
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: like smooth and graceful, but like smelting, this is like

875
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: lean and dynamic. Right. So I'm thinking like feline, something

876
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: like a cat Um, and I'm jumping up on tables,

877
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm getting really low, I'm like shifting my weight from

878
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: side to side, I'm running through the shop, I'm sliding

879
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: all over the place, I'm running through the parking lot. Um,

880
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: there are a couple of I think people that were

881
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: surrounding businesses were taking pictures because this was a scene.

882
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: It was a big scene. Um, and at the end

883
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: of the thing, Marty, they go I'll tell you. I said, well,

884
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: six nine. I'm six eight and a half. I danced

885
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: between six eight and six nine. Six Nine, when you're

886
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: monster role, you're six nine. It's better to be bigger. Oh,

887
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: six nine. That is the height we're looking for. And

888
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: in my head I'm like, they don't have anyone fucking

889
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: cast for this role. And I go listen, guys, here's

890
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: the deal. I will do anything to be your Predator,

891
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: like I would kill for this role. I Want I

892
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: want to be your Predator. I used to play professional basketball.

893
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: This is what I do. I trained to be an actor.

894
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: I trained to be a monster, like I'm gonna give

895
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: you blood. Yeah, all right, we'll see. We'll see. We'll

896
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: keep you in mind, Marty say, we'll figure out a

897
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: way to get you in there. So, yeah, so, yeah,

898
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: and I ended up, you know, being the guy to

899
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: play this role and I, you know, it just worked out.

900
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: What is what was the premiere like? When you're Oh,

901
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: we're not gonna talk about filming or anything, well, we'd

902
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: have a filming and stuff, or just was filming it.

903
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: Like we shot in Calgary for three months in Canada.

904
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: It was this time last year, beautiful September. I flew home.

905
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: What's Today? September three, literally a year ago today, I

906
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: flew home from Calgary. What was it like? It was crazy.

907
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: It was hot. Um, you were another foam. So Foam

908
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: Lake Texas an interesting thing. It's a sponge and you're

909
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: wearing it. We had six suits and four heads. Um

910
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: The heads there were two stunt heads, two amatronic kids.

911
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: These amatronic kids have thirty servos where little motors instide

912
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: controlling the face. There's four people puppeteering the face of

913
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: this character. So when we were doing a scene, I

914
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: have to do what the predators doing. But I have

915
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: to let my puppeteer is know what this exactly this

916
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: Predator is doing, because they're controlling the emotions the face.

917
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: So when I'm roaring, I have to cue them on

918
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: exactly how I'm going to do that. I don't know.

919
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: I would like lift my arms up before I swing

920
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: them back or something. We would go over that before

921
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: every every scene. It's really like Bluetooth with these people.

922
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: It's like it's crazy the synergy that's required to make

923
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: this character. Um. It's interesting. I listened Dan, our director,

924
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: went on BBC The other day and he was saying

925
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: like there are so many things you have to do

926
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: just to not make just to make it look like

927
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: you're not a door in a suit, and then you

928
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: have to act so like the Predator's head was sitting

929
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: on top of my head and it weighs fifteen pounds.

930
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: I had to shrug my shoulders and shorten my neck

931
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: and look at the ground to make the Predator look

932
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: forward right like. So I shot this movie essentially blind.

933
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: I was looking out through two holes in the neck

934
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: straight at the ground. So all my fighting scenes, all

935
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: my act scenes, all everything, I can't see anything and

936
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: we had to lay sticks on the ground for me

937
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: to follow so I knew where to walk. I had

938
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: a speaker in my ear so my first ad could

939
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: cue me on things that I couldn't see, and then

940
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: my fighting scenes, I. I we just had to rehearse

941
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: it and I couldn't hit any of my cast castmates.

942
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: You know it is. It was scary. You're fighting amber

943
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: mid thunder in a fight and she did most of

944
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: her stunts. And if she doesn't duck when I'm swinging

945
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: my spear, it's my fault. If she's in the way

946
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: when I'm swinging my spear, it's my fault. If it's

947
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: her fault, it's my fault. So because I'm the number three,

948
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: she's the number one and I'm also like the dirty Grimmy,

949
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: you know monster guy that you don't see his face,

950
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: it's my fault always. Ten out of ten. She could

951
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: literally be like I'm going to get hit in the

952
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: face intentionally and it's my fault. So terrifying. I can't

953
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: see her and Um, it was just insane. There was

954
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: a day my you know, my atronic head caught on fire, uh,

955
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: because the battery pack short circuited. Just all the scenes

956
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: the mud. That mud smells so bad. You've you've seen

957
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: the movie. Have you seen? Okay, yeah, the mud. The

958
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: mud pit was only supposed to be there for two weeks.

959
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: We were shooting on week eight. What are you doing?

960
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: When you said you had sticks in the ground, though,

961
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: but now there's just all this mud. Like, how do

962
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: you how do you know where to move when there's

963
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: the mud pit and the final scene? I understand, but

964
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: how do you like, how do you're? You're describing it

965
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: as you're operating blind, but you're essentially blind. I can

966
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: see my feet. I can look at my feet still, though,

967
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: but you're also doing all this other stuff with your body. Yes,

968
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 1: now you're throwing a mud pit. How does that work?

969
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: The mudpit was I was like lower, you know, above

970
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: my waist and the mud and it was what are

971
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: you looking at? There? The ground, the nothing. Nothing. So

972
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: how do you know what to do? They cue me.

973
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: So my first a D was in my ear, with

974
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: the with the with the speaker. He had a god

975
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: Mike on him and he would tell me where to

976
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: point the gun because I'm looking straight at the ground right.

977
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: So he do you like bring the tip down, you

978
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: know a little bit to the left little bit. Hold it.

979
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: Hold it and you're sitting up cameras if you're holding something,

980
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: keeping your arm out, and it's you. It's only head

981
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: to yeah, fifteen pounds. So I'm pulling a lot of levers.

982
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a little alien inside this giant body.

983
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: They loved the breathing. I had to really focus on.

984
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: I had to actually breathe, show breathing, because they loved

985
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: how tight the foam latex was to the suit and

986
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: I did this kind of breathing thing that showed that, like,

987
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: I have to think. I'm telling a story nonverbally, right.

988
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't have the luxury of using words like you know,

989
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: amber and Dakota's characters have. I have to tell a

990
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: story through posture and through movement. So, like I have

991
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: to think about what are my hands doing? So, like

992
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: are my hand so you know, even like sometimes you

993
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: catch frozen hands. So you have to do this with

994
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: your hands. You have to open your hands, you have

995
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: to kind of fan your hands out. So I have

996
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: to think about what my hands are doing. How am

997
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: I walking? Where's my posture? I also have to remember

998
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: to shorten my neck and look at the ground. I

999
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: also remember to do this breathing thing. I also have

1000
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: to remember I have four people relying on me to

1001
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: do cues if I make a big action. So that's

1002
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: just to look normal. Then I have to act. Then

1003
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: I have to remember choreography and blocking. Then I have

1004
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: to remember fighting. So you, so, you, you go through

1005
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: this whole thing. It was unbelievable. Okay, do you know?

1006
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: Are you? Do you know what it actually looks like? No,

1007
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: I when we wrapped the movie, I told dance, I

1008
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: can't wait to see this thing. I haven't seen a

1009
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: damn thing this whole fucking shoot. Okay, so it was

1010
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: up there in ninety days or whatever. So you come

1011
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: back to when do you? When do you? When's the premiere?

1012
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: The premier's August three. So there's like did you? Did

1013
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: you see anything before then? Yes, so I. So at

1014
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: first we had we had additional photography in February. So

1015
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: I went into so we let's get a little deeper.

1016
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: I went into this like post production depression when I

1017
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 1: got back because for three months I was relied on.

1018
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: I was the main antagonist of this major motion picture.

1019
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: Whatever seventy million dollars. I was I was accountable every

1020
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: day I was needed. I was like, you know, you're

1021
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: in this sort there's the three crew members around you,

1022
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: and then you're in that inner circle of twelve people

1023
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: setting up a shot and it's like, Oh my God, right,

1024
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: you get home and get home, and now I'm like

1025
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: taking out my trash and collecting mail and like grossery

1026
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: and I don't have anything booked. I like barely scratched

1027
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: this job, like and now, do you get paid then,

1028
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: or do you you get paid when it releases? You get paid,

1029
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: then you get paid then you sign a flat, flat rate,

1030
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: flat contract and Um, yeah, and then there's like overtime

1031
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: and stuff. But Um, I wasn't. I didn't have anything

1032
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: book I came home, I had nothing going on. NOPE,

1033
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: no one knows who I am. I like I got

1034
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: lucky with this job through instagram. That wasn't like, Oh,

1035
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: we gotta have Dane, his prowess, isn't you know. So,

1036
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: so the premiere so like. So we did a digital

1037
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: photography in February. We added a couple of scenes, we

1038
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: changed things around and then in March I saw a cut,

1039
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: a version of the film Dan Had Dakota, and I

1040
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: come to twentieth century and we sat in the theater

1041
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: and watched it and he had to go through everything

1042
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: what we thought and what our ideas were. And, Um,

1043
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: when we shot this thing there there was no title

1044
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: like it shifted a little bit through time. The movie

1045
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: kind of evolved and when we were shooting this no

1046
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: one really knew what this was gonna be. You know,

1047
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: obviously a period piece, adventure story with a little sci

1048
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: fi sprinkled and interesting Um. And then I saw the

1049
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: movie in March I was like, that's pretty good. Do

1050
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: you think you were good, or do you do you

1051
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: think I I'm in this stuff? Well, it's interesting because

1052
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: for a character like that, there's a lot of things

1053
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: that go on in the movie that that don't really

1054
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: require like for me it's like a basketball game. First

1055
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: of all, acting and and pro sports are so similar,

1056
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: are so ridiculously similar. You come in every morning, you

1057
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: got your coach, you got your director, you got your GM,

1058
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: you have your producer, you have your teammates, you have

1059
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: your castmates. One common goal, make a nice picture. Okay.

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00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: How about role player? Okay, role in a movie. You

1061
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 1: come in, the bigger, the bigger the production, the bigger

1062
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: the jigsaw puzzle you're just a piece in the jigsaw puzzle.

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00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: Show Up, keep your head down, keep your nose clean,

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00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: do your fucking job, smile, say yes, be happy. Same

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00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: thing at practice. Hey, I need you to sprint harder,

1066
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: I need you to set the screen. Do Your job.

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00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: You're good at screening. Actually keeping your head down. Literally. Yeah, literally,

1068
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: keeping my head down literally. Um, it's like coming in

1069
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: not complaining, knowing you have to do for this one

1070
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: common goal. I would rather work with eleven other less

1071
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: talented guys who are easy to be around, who I

1072
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: know I can rely on, than super super talented people

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00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: who just suck being around. You know, something so like

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00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: you're on set for, you know, a number of months

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00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: with these people. You're with them every single day. The

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00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: same thing on a team. You're in the locker room

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00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: with these people every single day. It's like being a

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00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: good person to be around. It goes so much further

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00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: than being super super talented. Um. And, like I said,

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00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 1: pros like the transition from you know, other than off

1081
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: the court stuff, the politics of sports and and entertainment

1082
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: that come into play, but when you're in it, when

1083
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: you're working, it's so similar and Um, I don't even

1084
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: know where I was going with this. But your depression.

1085
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, so, like, you know, the same thing

1086
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: with the sea season ends. You come you come home

1087
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: and it's just like what am I doing? Like you

1088
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: missed that, you missed that energy, missed like connection with people,

1089
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: you miss being on a team. It's the hardest. There's

1090
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: the hardest thing about team sports and going into workplaces.

1091
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: You're you're used to being told what to do and

1092
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: be part of a team and you know, all of

1093
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: a sudden you have all this freedom, which you think

1094
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: is what you want, and you're like, you know what,

1095
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: I actually really like being told what to do. It's

1096
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: almost like a it's it's a low level form of

1097
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: like institutionalization. And, Um, I listen and I know how

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00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: lucky and fortunate I am to be able to have

1099
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: a job that kind of replicates what I got from

1100
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,959
Speaker 1: basketball and everything I did, and now this is something

1101
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: that I can do for quite some time if I

1102
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: continue to experience success with it. Um, but I I

1103
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: was like really just going through a very strange time.

1104
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: I was in a doja cap music video in October.

1105
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: I Um, it was just get into it, okay. I

1106
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: was the main alien overlord. I steal her cat. She

1107
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: comes in and slaps me in the face takes her

1108
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: cap back. Yeah, all right, this, this, this has to

1109
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: be we're gonna we have to do we have to

1110
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: do more. Did more of them, more of the okay,

1111
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: so I'll wrap on this. Okay, you go to the premiere.

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00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: Let's go to the premiere. And it was unbelievable. We

1113
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: went to like six premieres that we went to comic con,

1114
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: Sandel Comic Con. We premiered the movie there for the

1115
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: first time. So I see it on screen for the

1116
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: first time at Comic Con, the finished product, and I

1117
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: was like, holy sh it, this movie is good. Two

1118
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: standing ovations. When this movie, when the credits start rolling

1119
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: and I look over and amber's right next to me

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00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: and she's tearing up and I'm I'm getting goosebumps now

1121
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: talking about it, but I started crying. This is real.

1122
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: Not to mention not to mention they gave me like

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00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: a single card crediting out. I don't know if you

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00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: know about crediting or like how the crediting works in Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: It's insane how contractually, how important credits are. Okay, yes,

1126
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: your position in the rolling credits, yes, very important. But

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00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,959
Speaker 1: they have these things called like the cards, single card,

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00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: multi card, shared card. A single card is like at

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00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: the end of the movie, Tom Cruise's name comes in

1130
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: and comes out the order of the names, like if

1131
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: you if there's three names on the on the list,

1132
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: like top position, middle position, lower position, you know, and

1133
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: then there's the with Robert De Niro and will Farrell.

1134
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: These are all it's a very like crazy science behind

1135
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: all this. And they century gave me the single card

1136
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: and Dandelegro as the Predator at the end. That's for

1137
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: like Robert De Niro, that your predators. I understand that,

1138
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: but you don't like you don't see my face. Did

1139
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 1: you kill it? What do you mean? Like when you watched,

1140
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: like I was good, that was good. So for me

1141
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: it was like it's like it's less the movies could

1142
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: have been bad, which it's not. It's amazing, but just

1143
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: I just wanted the Predator to be scary. I wanted

1144
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: the predators convincing, and I feel like it was got

1145
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: great reception and I was super happy about that and

1146
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: I just remember crying at the at the World Premiere

1147
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: Comic Con, looking at amber during the end credit. It's

1148
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: not just like, holy sh it, there's like the big

1149
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: pinch me moment Um. I just could believe it, and

1150
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: they started chanting like make one more the crowd. What

1151
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: the Hell is it like? That happens a can or Venice.

1152
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: So you'RE gonna YOU'RE gonna double your right next time. Yeah, well,

1153
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: let's I don't know. I don't know about that. That's

1154
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: if twenty century calls me for another one. But very

1155
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: last thing. Yes, UM, the next goal is the culinary

1156
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: show or to book legit acting roles. Legit acting rules

1157
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: the culinary thing. I feel like you can always, can

1158
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 1: always happen. Yeah, the more you grow as an actor

1159
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: than yeah, like that's the culinary Predator goes. The Predator

1160
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: goes to Italy and tries all the monster in the kitchen. Yeah,

1161
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean that would be I imagine myself

1162
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: in like a bigfoot sasquatch suit in the back of

1163
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: it like a Japanese kitchen, folding dumplings with tiny with

1164
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: tiny women, you know, something like that. Um, but yeah,

1165
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: the reason why I couldn't get a cooking or travel

1166
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: show was because I essentially wasn't famous enough. So you

1167
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: that brand. Anyone could do a cooking show. Exactly exactly.

1168
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: But okay, so the one you did, the Predator. Yeah,

1169
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: Jason Vorhees would be my next that's like if if,

1170
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: or like a Xeno morphrom the movie alien, but I

1171
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: wanted to be humans, i. i. You know the can

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Speaker 1: you confirm or deny? There are some reports on the

1173
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: Internet about gardens of Galaxy Three. Can you confirm or deny?

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01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: I can confirm it. There are reports on the Internet

1175
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: about gardens of the Galaxy. I. I don't I don't

1176
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: know anything. I all you're mumbling, you're stuttering. Okay, we're

1177
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: gonna do this again. Is that cool? Yeah, okay, and

1178
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: so the next time, next time we do it. Okay,

1179
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: I want to do places you've been, stuff you've eaten,

1180
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: so I'll remember the things you've eaten. Okay. And then

1181
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: I didn't even talk about my butchery. And then the

1182
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: whole my my apprenticeship at the butcher shop in Tuscany.

1183
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: Even talk about that? You did not talk about that. No,

1184
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 1: that's a whole because we didn't go down the culinary path.

1185
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: WE'RE gonna go down the culinary path. This was like

1186
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: and and we're gonna do is, we're gonna we need

1187
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: to pick them movie and but we we broke down

1188
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 1: your movie. You did. No, I mean a little bit,

1189
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: not enough. We want to go back to it. I

1190
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: mean we could, you could watch it and you can

1191
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: ask me question. You could ask me anything about the movie.

1192
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Okay, let's do that. Let's let's let's

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01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: that'll be our next part two is culinary and behind

1194
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: the scenes. and behind the scenes, Dane Lego, thanks for jam.

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01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: Thank you. Awesome stuff there, I mean really, really fascinating.

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01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: By the way, if you want to listen to the

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01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: Doug Gotlieb show, you can download it and podcast form

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