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Speaker 1: Headed coach of the Delaware State Hornets. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Jackson.
Speaker 2: Welcome, brother, gratulations, Come on, man, appreciate you all for
Speaker 2: having me. Man, it's a blessing.
Speaker 3: How you feeling, first and foremost?
Speaker 2: Brother, Man, It's surreal man, Honestly, bro, I'm in a
Speaker 2: position man, you know, going We're just going through my
Speaker 2: whole life and my accomplishments, obviously playing at a high
Speaker 2: level since I've been a littlegit little kid, you know,
Speaker 2: from Pop Winner all the way to high school to
Speaker 2: college and obviously my NFL career were in New York
Speaker 2: right now, so I know a lot of New York
Speaker 2: just hate me for a little bit. But you know,
Speaker 2: it's all good. But man, honestly, man for a circle
Speaker 2: to be a head coach and the nflctor retiring two
Speaker 2: years ago, manute, it's a surreal feeling. Man.
Speaker 4: I love seeing brothers like you get these kind of jobs.
Speaker 4: But it's obvious the obviously these get going for the
Speaker 4: money because a lot of the to use just don't
Speaker 4: have it, So what what what?
Speaker 3: What is the motivation?
Speaker 2: Honestly, man, it's to change young kids' lives. Man, give
Speaker 2: them opportunities, give them hope. I mean really the visionary
Speaker 2: for myself was coming for where I came from. Grew
Speaker 2: up in Los Angeles, California, whereally didn't have a lot
Speaker 2: of resources, didn't have a lot of hope. Moms pops
Speaker 2: didn't really have a lot of money to help. So
Speaker 2: sports and ball was my only way out. So I
Speaker 2: feel like a lot of young black kids, a lot
Speaker 2: of kids in general, you know, coming from the area
Speaker 2: as we come from. I mean to have a guy
Speaker 2: like myself that knows every step of the way to
Speaker 2: get there. I mean, why not go touch these young kids' lives, man,
Speaker 2: to help them change their lives?
Speaker 3: How to come about?
Speaker 2: How?
Speaker 3: How did why Delaware? How did that position happen?
Speaker 2: People say why Delaware? I say why not? Though, But honestly,
Speaker 2: so I was last year was my first year of
Speaker 2: coaching high school, and my older brother had a opportunity
Speaker 2: to get a coaching job in Long Beach before I
Speaker 2: went to Long Beach. Probably when the number with the
Speaker 2: number one high school in America have put you know,
Speaker 2: guys into the NFL. So when I had I had
Speaker 2: a call. My brother's like, man, I could get a job,
Speaker 2: but it's in Long Beach. But it wasn't the high
Speaker 2: school I went to. It was like a rival school.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, ah, that's gonna be hard to do.
Speaker 2: But when you got the job, I was like, man,
Speaker 2: you get it. I'm gonna come work with you. Man.
Speaker 2: I got an opportunity to go coach on the last year,
Speaker 2: and I fell in love with it. Obviously, I played
Speaker 2: fifteen years and I can't get back to go out
Speaker 2: there and catch touchdown. So going out there and helping
Speaker 2: them young kids and train them, it just like it
Speaker 2: kind of mashed that void that I missed from catching
Speaker 2: touchdowns to training these young kids. And it was like
Speaker 2: I got into it and I fell in love with him,
Speaker 2: man I said. Man, I got an opportunity to really
Speaker 2: change these young kids' lives. I got so much knowledge
Speaker 2: and insight on the game. It would be crazy for
Speaker 2: me not to get it back to these young guys
Speaker 2: and you know, help them do every step. Or they
Speaker 2: were to have the Delaware call or did you reach
Speaker 2: out to Delaware?
Speaker 3: How did that happen so.
Speaker 2: Delaware, Delaware State. Actually, one of a good friend of
Speaker 2: mine hit me and he was like, well, you want
Speaker 2: to coach college football? I'm like college football, Like, I
Speaker 2: just played fifteen years in the league. You know how
Speaker 2: my time is just everything in my path. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm chilling feet kicked out them at the house. I
Speaker 2: ain't working because you know, it's a lot a lot
Speaker 2: of people don't understand the hard work to go. I
Speaker 2: was going to be a professional athlete. So when I
Speaker 2: got the call, I'm like college football. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: having a heck of a time right now. Coach in
Speaker 2: high school college, that's time. That time is crazy. I'm like, nah,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. Literally, like an hour later,
Speaker 2: I got another call from coach Clark, who's like a
Speaker 2: big brother mentor to me, and he was like, bro,
Speaker 2: you interested in the coach in college. I'm like, hold on,
Speaker 2: what the hell is going on? Is getting crazy now?
Speaker 2: I was like, man, ain't you in school? Because he's
Speaker 2: a teacher. I'm like antient and school, I said, man,
Speaker 2: calling back later and we'll talk about it. So I
Speaker 2: sat back and thought about it. I was like, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm gonna consider it, and literally less than
Speaker 2: forty eight dollars. I'm on a flight going to Delaware.
Speaker 2: So they actually inquired on me and reached out through
Speaker 2: a few mutual you know guys I knew, and it
Speaker 2: was like, Man, I had to go take this opportunity, man,
Speaker 2: I said, I couldn't pass on it for something I
Speaker 2: really want to do it. Obviously, it's changing young kids' lives.
Speaker 2: I was like, Man, I ain't gonna pass on this one.
Speaker 4: You know what I hate, man, I hate the fact that,
Speaker 4: like I didn't even know you coached that Woodrow Wilson
Speaker 4: High School until you got the job at Delaware State,
Speaker 4: for sure, And I'm like, why the hell wasn't people
Speaker 4: amplifying that. Why wasn't the media talking about that? Because
Speaker 4: if you did some bullshit.
Speaker 2: For sure, bro, I mean for me, man, I think
Speaker 2: throughout my career, men, a lot of you know what
Speaker 2: has followed me, and you know, I don't I don't
Speaker 2: like to use the word that. Unfortunately it is what
Speaker 2: it is. Growing up you know, Los Angeles around the
Speaker 2: gang culture, and you know, obviously the stigma he's hanging
Speaker 2: around with the wrong people, he's doing the wrong things.
Speaker 2: But throughout my career, like you know, I've never went
Speaker 2: to jail. You know, I've never had no feelings, you know,
Speaker 2: So it's like I'm I'm kind of put in that
Speaker 2: box just because I grew up and you know, the
Speaker 2: guys I do hang around with may partaking certain things,
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, that's the culture
Speaker 2: and that's the next where I come from. So for me,
Speaker 2: like I never turned my back on them, I never
Speaker 2: made it. And it was like, you know what, I
Speaker 2: can't go to Crenshawn Sauce. I can't go to Crenshawn Vernon.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna go to the Mert Park. That's my
Speaker 2: ears in. Like I love to go back and support
Speaker 2: and help pull guys out of the area because I
Speaker 2: know how I feel to be stuck in there and
Speaker 2: have no hope to go anywhere else, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So for me, like I just try to
Speaker 2: you know, iilize the guys that you know, I looked
Speaker 2: up to my older brother who's here right now. I
Speaker 2: got having the camera on my face since I've been
Speaker 2: a little kid, like every step of the way, it's
Speaker 2: always been a vision and I have people around me
Speaker 2: to believe in my vision and help me, you know,
Speaker 2: be or pushed me through every step of the way.
Speaker 2: And you know, now I'm able to really put a
Speaker 2: lot of lights on it. And you know, Amazon came
Speaker 2: through and we did a deal with them. But we're
Speaker 2: gonna be releasing a documentary and this far coming up.
Speaker 2: So it's just a lot of shrill things going on,
Speaker 2: and I'm just blessed, that's what's up. Did you ever feel.
Speaker 5: Like at some point, like this is way before you
Speaker 5: even got drafted, did you ever feel like doubt because
Speaker 5: they remember they were saying that you were too small,
Speaker 5: your friend was too small. It was cool which your
Speaker 5: frame was too small, You have have doubt.
Speaker 2: Honestly, me personally, I never had doubt. I just used
Speaker 2: all the naysayers and all the doubts to like fuel
Speaker 2: my fire. So knowing I was always the smallest, one
Speaker 2: of the smallest, but like I was always the fastest.
Speaker 2: So I'm like my dad used to always say, well
Speaker 2: if they can't hit you, and they can't, if they
Speaker 2: can't catch you, they can't hit you. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So like for me, I just kind of
Speaker 2: every step of way obviously couldn't nobody predict that I
Speaker 2: was gonna be in NFL for fifteen years? Like the
Speaker 2: average crew in the NFL is three and a half years.
Speaker 2: I came in that since they went in two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight. No one would have never predicted me to
Speaker 2: play fifteen years. So for me, I just I love
Speaker 2: the doubting. Right now I'm facing some more doubt. You know,
Speaker 2: people like man he ain't never coached college. All the
Speaker 2: hell y'all gonna go hire at DeShawn Jackson to be
Speaker 2: a head coach at Delaware State University. And for me, like,
Speaker 2: there's no shoes that are too big for me. I
Speaker 2: feel like I could feel any shoe there is made.
Speaker 2: And obviously having like a guy like coach Andy Reid
Speaker 2: who was my coach in Philadelphia, Deon Sanders, who's like
Speaker 2: a mentor to me. You know, I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: surrounding myself around great people. It's not gonna allow me
Speaker 2: to feel and I'm not gonna allow myself to feel.
Speaker 2: So I think the biggest thing about a head coach
Speaker 2: and being in a position like this, you gotta surround
Speaker 2: yourself and around I mean, you got to surround yourself
Speaker 2: with people to help you be successful. And for me,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put some heavy hitters in the position. I
Speaker 2: can't let y'all know who I'm hiring, but I'm hiring
Speaker 2: some guys that got a lot of experience played in
Speaker 2: the NFL, coaching and feel and coach at college at
Speaker 2: a high level. So I'm excited for this opportunity.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask when it comes to recruiting
Speaker 1: players HBCU sometimes have a little tough especially sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: people go to the.
Speaker 3: Major schools, right because they feel like they get.
Speaker 1: Better looks on television, and sometimes they feel the facilities
Speaker 1: are a lot better when training and things like that.
Speaker 1: So how do you combat that part of it?
Speaker 2: You really want to know absolutely, I'm about to come
Speaker 2: holler at you. You went to hire y'all got that Joran sponsor?
Speaker 2: I went to well, honestly, man, for me, it's sponsorships
Speaker 2: in Hampton football for sure. I think, you know, just
Speaker 2: with the resources, like you spoke on me having a name,
Speaker 2: having a guy that had the success I had, I
Speaker 2: think it's a little easier. Obviously, you go back at
Speaker 2: what Deon Sanders did at Jackson State. He kind of
Speaker 2: put the plan down, He put the infrastructure down, He
Speaker 2: kicked the door up and forgot. I was like myself
Speaker 2: and Michael Vick obviously, I'm sure you guys seen the
Speaker 2: Michael Vick get the position at Norfolk State. You know,
Speaker 2: for me, that's like a big brother me. Man, we
Speaker 2: got a great relationship. I grew up looking up to
Speaker 2: Michael Vick and he kind of knocked the door down
Speaker 2: before I did. But it's crazy because when he got
Speaker 2: he called me. It was like I got an opportunity
Speaker 2: to either be at Sack State or Norfolk State. He
Speaker 2: was like, You're gonna be my first hire. So at
Speaker 2: the same time, I was like, I'm interested, but I
Speaker 2: was trying to like playing, not playing, but like kind
Speaker 2: of keep them limbo because I knew I would potentially
Speaker 2: have my own position, so I was trying to really
Speaker 2: figure it out. But I mean with them type of names, man,
Speaker 2: obviously Deon Sanders, Michael Vick, and then you have Deshaun Jackson,
Speaker 2: like we set up for this, and for me, I
Speaker 2: think Travis Hunter and Shador Sanders obviously showed a lot
Speaker 2: of players that are big that you can go to
Speaker 2: an HBCU ball out and still go to a Power
Speaker 2: five and still go get the nil money and do
Speaker 2: everything and still be successful. So I think it's a
Speaker 2: little more popular now. Before that, I don't see people
Speaker 2: doing it like myself when I when I I was
Speaker 2: coming out. Obviously, I came out in two thousand and
Speaker 2: five and I was a big time recruit and I
Speaker 2: always wanted to go to an HBCU. But for me,
Speaker 2: I was like too big to go to one. But
Speaker 2: my dad went to put through and cook me and
Speaker 2: my mom went to do Cainge. So for me, it's
Speaker 2: just a history man. It's the culture man, and I'm
Speaker 2: I'm pumped up ready for for real.
Speaker 4: Why why don't HBC use well, why don't they have
Speaker 4: more money to make high as like yours? And how
Speaker 4: do we increase that? How do we get them that money?
Speaker 2: Great question I think for myself. Honestly, if we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about money, me being the head coach at
Speaker 2: Delaware State wasn't about money. You know, at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, my career and the money I've made
Speaker 2: on the field obviously is an honor and a blessing.
Speaker 2: But taking this position, it wasn't like I'm about to
Speaker 2: take this position. I'm about to become some crazy million
Speaker 2: dollar coach right away, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: for me, it was just a vision. It was the
Speaker 2: energy I felt when I went to Delaware. The people
Speaker 2: I met, obviously doctor Allen, doctor Hawkins, Tony Tucker to
Speaker 2: can start, who was my guy that actually made this happen.
Speaker 2: When I when I stepped foot on that campusit it
Speaker 2: was just like the morale was like you could tell
Speaker 2: the people around just wanted to win. They had it
Speaker 2: eager for winning. It's like in the past two years
Speaker 2: they won two games. I mean, like, this is not
Speaker 2: an ideal situation for me, but it is because I
Speaker 2: know I'm a winner, so no situation scares me. So
Speaker 2: when I came into that that building, that facility, like
Speaker 2: like you said, it wasn't it's high schools that are
Speaker 2: better than our facilities.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know they had a football team.
Speaker 2: Damn. That's how you feel, though. That's real. But I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: like I've heard about Delaware State, but I ain't really
Speaker 2: know too much about Delawares State either. In Philadelphia is
Speaker 2: right down the road. You know. I spent a lot
Speaker 2: of time in Philadelphia. I played for the Washington football team.
Speaker 2: They don't call them the team I used to play for,
Speaker 2: no more. They Commanders or whatever it is, or that
Speaker 2: I don't like that name. But then I played for
Speaker 2: Baltimore as well too, the Ravens my last year in
Speaker 2: the league. So I'm surrounding in the same area. Man.
Speaker 2: I really took a liking to Philadelphia because all we see,
Speaker 2: I'm a Cali dude. So when I got drafted to Philadelphia, like,
Speaker 2: I played for six teams, but Philadelphia was one of
Speaker 2: the best places I played in. Man, so I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm at home. Man. I really, I really want
Speaker 2: to put a gate around Delaware, around Philadelphia, around DMV,
Speaker 2: around Baltimore, because at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 2: a lot of talent that goes unnoticed and all these
Speaker 2: guys are going to other places, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So for me, I think it's huge. And that was
Speaker 2: a part of the pitch when I at the interview
Speaker 2: for the head coaching job. It's like, I mean, you
Speaker 2: have Deshaun Jackson coming in here. Now. A lot of
Speaker 2: these kids when I was playing in Philadelphia were kids
Speaker 2: that were five seven years you know, six seven years old,
Speaker 2: and now they in high school. I'm gonna go into
Speaker 2: the house and talk and it's like, wow, I remember you.
Speaker 2: I'm a Philadelphia Eagle fan. So it just makes it
Speaker 2: a little easier.
Speaker 3: Dig.
Speaker 5: Did your mentality have to change at all going from
Speaker 5: players to coach?
Speaker 2: For sure? Man? How do I answer that? When I
Speaker 2: think with this situation, obviously I did have to clean
Speaker 2: it up a little bit. And the reason why I
Speaker 2: would say that is because me and Lashan McCoy, who's
Speaker 2: somebody you know, I have a lot of respect for
Speaker 2: and it's like a brother to me. We was doing
Speaker 2: a podcast and uh, you free on that podcast. You
Speaker 2: can say what you want, you can do, you can dream,
Speaker 2: you know, whatever the case may be. So for me
Speaker 2: now being the head coach, it's a lot of things
Speaker 2: that I was having freedom to do and just relax
Speaker 2: just because you know what, I worked hard, I did
Speaker 2: my thing, and now I could let my hair down
Speaker 2: a little bit, so you know, a snap and finger.
Speaker 2: You know, I had to clean up. But I think
Speaker 2: throughout my whole career was like that, because when you
Speaker 2: walk into these offices, or you walk into these owners
Speaker 2: or these coaches, you know, you just can't be in
Speaker 2: there just being yourself. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 2: got to clean up and you gotta pertrain a certain image.
Speaker 2: So for me, like I've been used to that, I
Speaker 2: know how to turn the switch on and off. And
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is when you leading a university,
Speaker 2: you know, you have to be the resemblance of what
Speaker 2: you want your young men to look like. So I mean,
Speaker 2: you just you just want them to own own up
Speaker 2: to the responsibility of being young man, to be responsible,
Speaker 2: to work hard, and just all the characteristics you want
Speaker 2: in a young man to be able to be a
Speaker 2: grown man when you're done with them. And I think
Speaker 2: the biggest thing is when I walk in the door,
Speaker 2: I look at these young men like young men when
Speaker 2: they leave out that during that graduate I want them
Speaker 2: to become grown man. So you just got to start
Speaker 2: principles and just let them know. And I think the
Speaker 2: biggest thing for me is I know what it looks like.
Speaker 2: I know what they I know what the next level wants.
Speaker 2: I know the things not to do and what to
Speaker 2: do because I'm not the perfect pitch. You know, I
Speaker 2: did a lot of things that you know, I had
Speaker 2: to learn from and and now looking back, especially the
Speaker 2: social media space. Like I posted a lot of things
Speaker 2: when I was young, and the older God was like, damn,
Speaker 2: I wish I didn post that. Damn I always I
Speaker 2: want to show with that.
Speaker 5: But it also shows them that you are relatable to Yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You got stigmas all that type of stuff.
Speaker 3: So you don't claim show.
Speaker 2: Sure, don't claim it. Just say a I for real,
Speaker 2: that's real. Now.
Speaker 1: I know Kevin Hart your gout, Sir Kevin Hart came
Speaker 1: up here and he said some things about Delaware state.
Speaker 3: Culture.
Speaker 2: When you don't let it go, come on, let it be.
Speaker 4: Know why did you go since she didn't, I thought
Speaker 4: I was trying to university.
Speaker 1: You just a bunch of niggas.
Speaker 3: Delaware.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I know he's a huge Eagle fan. I know you
Speaker 3: guys are close. Did you call him and you got
Speaker 3: the job and be like, bro, you got to take
Speaker 3: that back. Now.
Speaker 2: See what's crazy is I didn't even know about that
Speaker 2: viral moment until like maybe like a few hours ago.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a viral just in Delaware was so so
Speaker 2: when I heard when I heard about what he said,
Speaker 2: I reached out to him, and you know, I tried
Speaker 2: to get him to call in to apologize you because
Speaker 2: you know, now your little hommy is the head coach
Speaker 2: over there. But uh, you know he's dealing with all
Speaker 2: the fires and I think he's shooting up a show
Speaker 2: right now. But one thing I'll said about Kevin Man,
Speaker 2: Kevin is a great dude and got a great relationship
Speaker 2: with him. I know he just say thing, you know
Speaker 2: how he is, Kevin just saying comedy, Kevin just joking.
Speaker 2: He just be popping it. But for sure Kevin's gonna come.
Speaker 2: He gonna come support. I mean, you know his roosts
Speaker 2: for Philadelphia and being a huge Eagle fan. You know,
Speaker 2: he was like, man, what I need to do? Y'all
Speaker 2: got a building I can put my name on. I'm like,
Speaker 2: we got a whole lot of stuff you can put
Speaker 2: your name on. It's HBCU. We gonna need you. So
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to build a lot of relationship and
Speaker 2: I got a lot of relationships with you know, like
Speaker 2: Michael Rubin is a guy that I reached out to
Speaker 2: and you know he congratulated me as well too. So
Speaker 2: just looking forward to put on our resources man and
Speaker 2: bring it together. Man, because I think we got a
Speaker 2: big opportunity, man, to change the perspective on HBCUs Man,
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm stoked. I'm ready to get it going
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 4: You know, you know what when you become a when
Speaker 4: you become a parent, you start looking at your parents different,
Speaker 4: like you kind of just appreciate them more and respect
Speaker 4: them more and understood what they went through. Now that
Speaker 4: you're a coach, do you feel like that about your
Speaker 4: old coaches because you probably.
Speaker 2: Give them your I promise I did. And you know
Speaker 2: it's crazy because when I was younger, my mom was like,
Speaker 2: you bad, but your kids are gonna be that much
Speaker 2: more bad than you are. So now obviously I got
Speaker 2: two sons six and nine, and my nine year old boy,
Speaker 2: he would give me a run for my money. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I feel what you're saying. But Craig,
Speaker 2: you said that because I was in the team meeting
Speaker 2: with the guys that met him for the first time
Speaker 2: like two days ago, and I could just see like, man, like,
Speaker 2: these dudes gonna give me a run for my money.
Speaker 2: But it's a good thing because it's relatable, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I literally was just in their seats.
Speaker 2: I know what they want to do, and I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to sit here and police them like you young man,
Speaker 2: like you know right from wrong. If you want to
Speaker 2: be an elite scholar athlete, it's certain things you have
Speaker 2: to do. I mean, it got to look a certain way,
Speaker 2: and it's the nature to Beninson. Now, it's a lot
Speaker 2: of money involved in these colleges, like you able to
Speaker 2: get paid for it, so I'm able to really walk
Speaker 2: in there and say, look, if you want xyz, this
Speaker 2: is what you gotta do. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And if you don't do it like this, Delawaes State
Speaker 2: might not be your fit. You know, it's unfortunate. But
Speaker 2: I want guys that want to do this. I want
Speaker 2: guys that want to play at the next level, Like
Speaker 2: I know what I want to accomplish there. And like
Speaker 2: I said, I don't got time to wait. We don't
Speaker 2: got time to mess around, Like we're not rebuilding. We
Speaker 2: coming there right now. We want to win this year.
Speaker 1: Have you thought about that, like what Chaulaman said, Like
Speaker 1: you know, these students might come in there, someone might
Speaker 1: be feeling themselves a little bit talk too, a little crazy.
Speaker 3: When you're in the league, you could talk back. I'm
Speaker 3: sure you can talk to your coach.
Speaker 1: You know, you might have to go move some furniture,
Speaker 1: but now you're a coach, you can't move that furniture.
Speaker 2: You can't move that furniture. But one thing I will say,
Speaker 2: I think it's a respect It's a respect level. And
Speaker 2: I always say, like, how do you like when you
Speaker 2: first meet somebody, Like do you come in there and
Speaker 2: just expect or like, say you you got a job
Speaker 2: or you're a boss and you hire somebody, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you might have an authority, but you're not just gonna
Speaker 2: talk to him any type of way. Now, you do
Speaker 2: have certain bosses that do feel like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk to you any type of way, and
Speaker 2: I don't care how you feel, but like, is he
Speaker 2: really gonna run runt through a wall for you? So
Speaker 2: for me, it's like my perspective, if I'm gonna come
Speaker 2: here and ask you to do certain things, I'm a
Speaker 2: mutual build that report with you before I just come
Speaker 2: at you crazy and talk to you crazy, because it's
Speaker 2: like I may expect you to run through a wall
Speaker 2: for me, and you I don't know you, like I
Speaker 2: don't trust you. You got to build that before you
Speaker 2: just run through a wall. So I feel like building
Speaker 2: that trust and letting them know, like you know what
Speaker 2: I was once in your position. I know where you
Speaker 2: want to go. Let me help you get there. Follow
Speaker 2: my steps. I can't make I can't go play for you.
Speaker 2: I did my thing on the field. I can't go
Speaker 2: play for you. D Jack can't go on the field
Speaker 2: and go catch a pass for you. But I can
Speaker 2: tell you what it takes to get there, and if
Speaker 2: it's on you to follow me. Like I told my players,
Speaker 2: I love y'all, and I don't use that word lightly.
Speaker 2: I said I love y'all, but it's on y'all to
Speaker 2: make me not love y'all. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So if I turn my back on you, it's because
Speaker 2: you made me turn your back. It's not because I
Speaker 2: didn't think. Because at the end of the day, I'm
Speaker 2: coming in with love. I'm giving y'all love. I'm not
Speaker 2: coming in here trying to be your daddy. Y'all got dads,
Speaker 2: I got kids. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: y'all gonna respect me. Because if y'all respect me, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get you where you I'm gonna get you to
Speaker 2: where you want to go to.
Speaker 5: And then a good thing to always go to, always
Speaker 5: humble them, is y'all are in Delaware.
Speaker 2: There ain't nothing out your head. We're gonna turn out.
Speaker 2: You come to the game, bring it back. You know,
Speaker 2: you gotta come support it. But there ain't nothing in Delaware.
Speaker 2: They got nothing to do but staying in. But yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, you know it's crazy. So within the past
Speaker 2: two three days I've been out there. I've been driving
Speaker 2: going to get food because obviously dovers like everything is
Speaker 2: on this one strip. So we're driving out. I seen
Speaker 2: probably like ten of my my student athletes were driving
Speaker 2: down in the car that like coach like, man, look
Speaker 2: it's another player. There's another player. So it's like it's
Speaker 2: real close and it's like it's family oriented. For sure.
Speaker 4: You might need that at this point in your life,
Speaker 4: cause you say, you do fifteen years your time you
Speaker 4: was quiet, but you still have Cali's off for sure,
Speaker 4: run all your family, your friends. You might need that
Speaker 4: that quiet life.
Speaker 2: I definitely do. And I think for me, man, it's
Speaker 2: a great time because those who really know me, after
Speaker 2: my fifteen year career is over, I retired in twenty
Speaker 2: two two when I played for the Ravens. So right
Speaker 2: when I tired, I got both my kids full time
Speaker 2: and their mom wasn't around, So I think that really
Speaker 2: helped me too, and that really like put some discipline in,
Speaker 2: you know, because if I didn't have them, I would
Speaker 2: have probably been traveling, spending money, blowing money. I would
Speaker 2: have been everywhere. Because obviously people don't understand. So it's
Speaker 2: not only fifteen years, it's the three years before that,
Speaker 2: and maybe one or two years before that when I
Speaker 2: was in high school, because I was a high profile
Speaker 2: player coming out of high school. So you gotta think
Speaker 2: all them years of non stop working out, training, this, that,
Speaker 2: and the third. So it was twenty twenty two when
Speaker 2: I retired where I was like, I could have really
Speaker 2: just splurged and just went crazy. But I got my
Speaker 2: kids full time, so that really helped me sit down,
Speaker 2: and I was taking them to school, picking them up,
Speaker 2: taking them to sports, and doing a lot of things.
Speaker 2: So I think last year was like, all right, hold on,
Speaker 2: I just did that for a whole year. I said,
Speaker 2: now it's time. I can't beat the baby daddy and
Speaker 2: the baby mama. I said, I got to go coach.
Speaker 2: Went to go coach with my older brother, Uh, Coach
Speaker 2: Clark who's in the building. And I just give a
Speaker 2: huge shout out to Coach Clark. He's a huge inspiration
Speaker 2: on my life and not only to my life, ment
Speaker 2: to a lot of a lot of young men. He
Speaker 2: put a lot of young guys into college active college
Speaker 2: players right now that the ballers. Man, I'm excited for
Speaker 2: his journey because this was a dream come true for
Speaker 2: him to get this spot in his position.
Speaker 3: And he's coming with you.
Speaker 2: He come. I made him my assistant head coach, man
Speaker 2: because just for everything he meant to me and what
Speaker 2: he did, I missed the dream come true. Man, He's
Speaker 2: leaving his family, he's leaving his daughters, he left his
Speaker 2: school that we just built some crazy that it's never
Speaker 2: been happening one hundred years. And he coming. Man. So man,
Speaker 2: I just want to tell.
Speaker 3: You I appreciate you.
Speaker 4: What about someone like you know, like I said, you know,
Speaker 4: even with the coaching thing that Woodrow was in high school,
Speaker 4: there's things that people don't amplify.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that you had.
Speaker 4: Custody in kids because you go the way around, right
Speaker 4: the daddy wasn't around. Why wasn't the mother around?
Speaker 2: So some personal things went down. So, you know, we
Speaker 2: was we were trying to work out our situation, and
Speaker 2: throughout our situation, I was actually I was playing for
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams in twenty twenty one, and uh,
Speaker 2: throughout that period of time, you know, we was back
Speaker 2: and forth on and off for about six or seven years,
Speaker 2: and it just came a point of time where we
Speaker 2: couldn't really figure it out. She left and you know,
Speaker 2: start dealing with some individual and the principles didn't the line,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. The guy she was dealing
Speaker 2: with didn't aligne to what I was preaching and doing
Speaker 2: over here, and we kind of just didn't see eye
Speaker 2: to eye. We didn't talk, we lost communication. And for me,
Speaker 2: like I'm a very respectful man, and I understand when
Speaker 2: you're in a partnership and you have kids with somebody,
Speaker 2: you have to ligne and the things on the line,
Speaker 2: like I'm not gonna have my kids be around somebody
Speaker 2: that I can't talk to them, or I can't know
Speaker 2: where their location is, or I'm not going for that
Speaker 2: like my dad did. In't start all principles in me
Speaker 2: and I would never turn my back on my kids.
Speaker 2: So I'm very influential on my kids' life. And uh yeah.
Speaker 2: So it just went and we didn't talk, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm grabbed my kids and it was nothing,
Speaker 2: you know, nothing too personal. But at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, I just had to grab my kids, man,
Speaker 2: And for me, that was like I could not be
Speaker 2: one of them. Dass, it's just not around. Man. Then
Speaker 2: you got two boys and I love them death.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a court situation.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: I mean, it almost got to some court stuff, but
Speaker 2: like we really figured it out before the end and
Speaker 2: so it didn't really have to get messy because you know,
Speaker 2: of course it's public. You try like hi, you try
Speaker 2: to close case and all that, and it just kind
Speaker 2: of got to to atter. So I was like, you
Speaker 2: know what, let me just you know, get them, and
Speaker 2: she granted them to me and stuff, and then we
Speaker 2: just kind of did like that. But it's it's good
Speaker 2: now because now that I'm coaching, you know, she ain't
Speaker 2: dealing with the dude no more, and like me and
Speaker 2: her is cool now. So I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 2: you're gonna help me Out'm about to get this full
Speaker 2: time coaching job. The kids can come back with you
Speaker 2: and you know where. Everything's good. So them two years
Speaker 2: it was tricky though, but we're good now.
Speaker 5: Now you're from la is your family okay, we got there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's crazy. So I'm supposed to be going
Speaker 2: back Saturday. I'm gonna actually stay in town for the
Speaker 2: Eagle game on Sunday, but my mom's here. She came
Speaker 2: in town for it. But yeah, like my family, it's
Speaker 2: kind of more on the outskirts, but a lot of
Speaker 2: people in la man, it's you know, it's crazy. Man.
Speaker 2: I just want to pray for my city, man, and
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully everything gets you know, handles.
Speaker 1: I just got to ask, you know, before you leave.
Speaker 1: You know, the Eagles and Giants rivalry was crazy. I've
Speaker 1: been to one game in Philly and I told myself
Speaker 1: I'll never go back.
Speaker 3: Just the fans in Philly is differently, It's crazy. I
Speaker 3: seen nothing like that. I had a baby with me
Speaker 3: and they was still we don't care. I'm like Jesus,
Speaker 3: but what did you think about the Giants?
Speaker 2: Uh lettings at Congo?
Speaker 3: Let me seengo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, that was the stupidest thing you
Speaker 2: could have ever did. And what's crazy? I think like
Speaker 2: one of the so it was like a front office
Speaker 2: guy who was actually on the Eagles. He worked for
Speaker 2: the Eagles and then like he went to New York
Speaker 2: and he was in the room because I remember when
Speaker 2: they was making the decision and I seen him, like, man,
Speaker 2: he used to work for Philly. It's crazy to come
Speaker 2: sitting there listening to what they're talking about that like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know he yead okay year, but you know we
Speaker 2: could we could probably just let him go, like we're
Speaker 2: not gonna play him. And I'm just listening to the
Speaker 2: conversation and to see a year, not even a year later,
Speaker 2: he's killing killing at a high level, and I think,
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes it's just like you need that fresh start,
Speaker 2: you need that energy because you know, when you're at
Speaker 2: a team. I hope none of y'all giants fans, but
Speaker 2: when you're I am.
Speaker 3: A giant, can we put a uh? I got turned
Speaker 3: into this.
Speaker 2: Way, but talking about a cowboy friend, say at even bad,
Speaker 2: But that's what I said.
Speaker 3: Cow girl, I'm a cowboy killer.
Speaker 2: I know about it.
Speaker 4: My daddy was a cowboy fan. He's a cowboy fan.
Speaker 4: I don't you know, I'm grandfather. Then every year to
Speaker 4: say going the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Every that's what they say. My boy, I got a
Speaker 2: best friend. He was a diehard cowgirl fan, my bwgirl fan.
Speaker 3: And every year this o this our here, this our yere.
Speaker 2: Then midway through the season, maybe I'm like, bro, y'all
Speaker 2: need to just get rid of Jerry Jones. Man, once
Speaker 2: you'll get your get rid of him and Jones.
Speaker 3: The other day I saw him.
Speaker 4: Another day, I saw him the same Boughts and I
Speaker 4: told him, I said, man, we gotta get this ship together,
Speaker 4: and he hit me with some rich white man ship like.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we digged and we were supposed.
Speaker 4: To zag, but.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah you good. Lamar Jackson went crazy this year.
Speaker 2: What you'all predicted on the Super Bowl? I actually think
Speaker 2: Baltimore Baltimore.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I got a feeling.
Speaker 4: About Baltimore stuff, Baltimore, Philly, the.
Speaker 3: Chiefs, I think. I think I think Eagle's gonna get well.
Speaker 4: Actually, Baltimore Baltimore. I want to say Baltimore and Philly,
Speaker 4: but I think Baltimore in the Lions.
Speaker 2: I like it. I like that that could be a
Speaker 2: potentials look good.
Speaker 4: But I wanted to say to you know, a lot
Speaker 4: of these coaches are leaving, especially like old the white coaches,
Speaker 4: because they say they can't handle these kids and these
Speaker 4: n I L deals. And that's why I think it's
Speaker 4: good for guys like you, because you made damn one
Speaker 4: hundred million in the league, and I think the one
Speaker 4: thing that they're missing. Yeah, they might be making some
Speaker 4: money now, but there's a whole bigger, bigger, bigger bag
Speaker 4: to get later. And I think only guys that have
Speaker 4: done it like yourself can relate.
Speaker 2: To them kids like that. I mean, you support me, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: absolutely supporting d jack Man love HBC.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he asked for help me.
Speaker 2: But they said I got y'all for real. I'm locking
Speaker 2: with y'all whatever y'all want to put him my Hamp.
Speaker 3: I hate you, you know, I like this.
Speaker 2: I thought it was how Hamp.
Speaker 4: And we don't sclude Eddie George enough either. They always
Speaker 4: talked about Mike and Eddie.
Speaker 2: George does this thing over there too. Man.
Speaker 3: Now, we definitely come out in support, definitely.
Speaker 4: And I saw what Dean said about you. He just
Speaker 4: like everybody needs to wrap their arms around your stuff.
Speaker 4: Have you always been in your corner like that.
Speaker 2: Dion has always been a big influencial for me, man.
Speaker 2: I think going back to when I was in high school, Man,
Speaker 2: he used to reach out to me and I had
Speaker 2: an opportunity to sit with him a few times on
Speaker 2: official with him a few times, just really pick his brain. Man.
Speaker 2: I think he's he's a special dude. Man. Him and
Speaker 2: him and Jerry Rice are like my two mentors. So
Speaker 2: to have two guys like that in my corner man
Speaker 2: every step of the way, even like while I was playing,
Speaker 2: even before I got to the league. So I mean
Speaker 2: that ain't that ain't just a post. He's just posting
Speaker 2: like we really locked in and we got a real
Speaker 2: great relationship and he's helping out a lot like my think.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, in our culture, we don't give
Speaker 2: a flowers to people that really like support us and
Speaker 2: help us out. I definitely want to give Coach promised
Speaker 2: flowers because he's for the culture. He is the culture.
Speaker 2: I think he's doing some great things and a lot
Speaker 2: of people still hating on him, like at a big level, Man,
Speaker 2: what his sons is doing, like that should dream come
Speaker 2: true man for any man. And I know they ball
Speaker 2: and he's doing I don't care. Man, if you got
Speaker 2: an opportunity to coach your kids and see him at
Speaker 2: the highest level and to see like that, I hope
Speaker 2: he become the first pick. You know what, Oh no,
Speaker 2: y'all can't get him. Well, Tennessee Titans might be able
Speaker 2: to do it. Patriots don't.
Speaker 3: They got the first, the Tennessee Titans first. First, the
Speaker 3: Titans and the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Then they need to make it the package deal. Man.
Speaker 2: Let the daddy and the coach man go in. They
Speaker 2: probably come back and get shy later on. Maybe get
Speaker 2: Travis at the two. You never know that.
Speaker 4: Brime said some fliction on Willow and Gilly said, I
Speaker 4: picked it up.
Speaker 2: He was like he on something.
Speaker 4: He was like, I would coach in the NFL if
Speaker 4: I could coach my to.
Speaker 2: I'm like, see what you know a little something that
Speaker 2: the only way he ain't going back to Colorado is
Speaker 2: something like that happening. I know them, man, He's a yeah,
Speaker 2: he liked that. It might we might see that. It
Speaker 2: might be crazy.
Speaker 3: I would love for the Giants to pick him up.
Speaker 2: Giants glory, y'all want I mean a non meaningful game,
Speaker 2: like why would y'all. That was stupid as hell.
Speaker 1: Asked, do y'all ever, I mean in the NFL, do
Speaker 1: y'all ever, just say like, there's no sense of winning
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 3: Let's not win this game. Does that conversation happen?
Speaker 2: I can't account for that now higher up potentially, yeah,
Speaker 2: because they want them number one picks. I believe that happens.
Speaker 2: But as a player, you go out there playing around,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get hurt and one injury with in your career,
Speaker 2: So it's not really worth going out there trying to
Speaker 2: bs and mess around in terror a cl or be
Speaker 2: knocked out on that. You gotta think them growing in
Speaker 2: on that field. They taking care of their families and
Speaker 2: they want their bonuses. So it's a lot of money
Speaker 2: riding on them games. So I never partected none that.
Speaker 2: I can't speak for nobody else, but I ain't. Ever
Speaker 2: they should have just pulled some of the players.
Speaker 3: Listen in, let's pull this one out.
Speaker 2: Nothing for him to win that game, nothing like, come on,
Speaker 2: that was the first home win. You feel me like,
Speaker 2: come on, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: That's the only game I ain't going I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to We're gonna lose this one.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting the house like, what the is going on?
Speaker 2: That's crazy? Man.
Speaker 3: Man, Well, we appreciate you for joining us. Absolutely.
Speaker 4: Congratulations again, man, thank you. Absolutely not gonna be the situation, right,
Speaker 4: You're not gonna they ain't gonna end U quitting before.
Speaker 2: Okay, nothing I do our quitting life. Man, We're gonna
Speaker 2: be there to support everything all going. I just want
Speaker 2: to tell y'all to man, y'all been killing it with y'all.
Speaker 2: Show man. Been watching y'all for a long time. Uh,
Speaker 2: rest in peace. Nipsey Hustle, that's my brother, that ship
Speaker 2: with him. But I've been watching y'all. Sh y'all do
Speaker 2: y'all thing. Man, y'all keep going, man, take it off. Man.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's to Sean Jackson, the new head
Speaker 1: of the coach, the new head coach for Delaware State Hornets,
Speaker 1: and it's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club.