WEBVTT - Desean Jackson On Coaching Delaware State, Earning Respect, Fatherhood + More

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<v Speaker 3>a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed is the new.

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<v Speaker 1>Headed coach of the Delaware State Hornets. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, brother, gratulations, Come on, man, appreciate you all for

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<v Speaker 2>having me. Man, it's a blessing.

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<v Speaker 3>How you feeling, first and foremost?

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<v Speaker 2>Brother, Man, It's surreal man, Honestly, bro, I'm in a

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<v Speaker 2>position man, you know, going We're just going through my

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<v Speaker 2>whole life and my accomplishments, obviously playing at a high

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<v Speaker 2>level since I've been a littlegit little kid, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from Pop Winner all the way to high school to

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<v Speaker 2>college and obviously my NFL career were in New York

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<v Speaker 2>right now, so I know a lot of New York

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<v Speaker 2>just hate me for a little bit. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all good. But man, honestly, man for a circle

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<v Speaker 2>to be a head coach and the nflctor retiring two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, manute, it's a surreal feeling. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I love seeing brothers like you get these kind of jobs.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's obvious the obviously these get going for the

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<v Speaker 4>money because a lot of the to use just don't

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<v Speaker 4>have it, So what what what?

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<v Speaker 3>What is the motivation?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, man, it's to change young kids' lives. Man, give

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<v Speaker 2>them opportunities, give them hope. I mean really the visionary

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<v Speaker 2>for myself was coming for where I came from. Grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in Los Angeles, California, whereally didn't have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of resources, didn't have a lot of hope. Moms pops

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really have a lot of money to help. So

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<v Speaker 2>sports and ball was my only way out. So I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like a lot of young black kids, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of kids in general, you know, coming from the area

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<v Speaker 2>as we come from. I mean to have a guy

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<v Speaker 2>like myself that knows every step of the way to

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<v Speaker 2>get there. I mean, why not go touch these young kids' lives, man,

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<v Speaker 2>to help them change their lives?

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<v Speaker 3>How to come about?

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<v Speaker 2>How?

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<v Speaker 3>How did why Delaware? How did that position happen?

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<v Speaker 2>People say why Delaware? I say why not? Though, But honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was last year was my first year of

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<v Speaker 2>coaching high school, and my older brother had a opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to get a coaching job in Long Beach before I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Long Beach. Probably when the number with the

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<v Speaker 2>number one high school in America have put you know,

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<v Speaker 2>guys into the NFL. So when I had I had

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<v Speaker 2>a call. My brother's like, man, I could get a job,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's in Long Beach. But it wasn't the high

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<v Speaker 2>school I went to. It was like a rival school.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, ah, that's gonna be hard to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you got the job, I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you get it. I'm gonna come work with you. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I got an opportunity to go coach on the last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and I fell in love with it. Obviously, I played

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years and I can't get back to go out

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<v Speaker 2>there and catch touchdown. So going out there and helping

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<v Speaker 2>them young kids and train them, it just like it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of mashed that void that I missed from catching

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<v Speaker 2>touchdowns to training these young kids. And it was like

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<v Speaker 2>I got into it and I fell in love with him,

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<v Speaker 2>man I said. Man, I got an opportunity to really

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<v Speaker 2>change these young kids' lives. I got so much knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>and insight on the game. It would be crazy for

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<v Speaker 2>me not to get it back to these young guys

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, help them do every step. Or they

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<v Speaker 2>were to have the Delaware call or did you reach

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<v Speaker 2>out to Delaware?

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<v Speaker 3>How did that happen so.

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<v Speaker 2>Delaware, Delaware State. Actually, one of a good friend of

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<v Speaker 2>mine hit me and he was like, well, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to coach college football? I'm like college football, Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>just played fifteen years in the league. You know how

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<v Speaker 2>my time is just everything in my path. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm chilling feet kicked out them at the house. I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't working because you know, it's a lot a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people don't understand the hard work to go. I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be a professional athlete. So when I

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<v Speaker 2>got the call, I'm like college football. I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>having a heck of a time right now. Coach in

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<v Speaker 2>high school college, that's time. That time is crazy. I'm like, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do it. Literally, like an hour later,

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<v Speaker 2>I got another call from coach Clark, who's like a

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<v Speaker 2>big brother mentor to me, and he was like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>you interested in the coach in college. I'm like, hold on,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell is going on? Is getting crazy now?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, ain't you in school? Because he's

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<v Speaker 2>a teacher. I'm like antient and school, I said, man,

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<v Speaker 2>calling back later and we'll talk about it. So I

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<v Speaker 2>sat back and thought about it. I was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm gonna consider it, and literally less than

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight dollars. I'm on a flight going to Delaware.

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<v Speaker 2>So they actually inquired on me and reached out through

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<v Speaker 2>a few mutual you know guys I knew, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Man, I had to go take this opportunity, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I couldn't pass on it for something I

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<v Speaker 2>really want to do it. Obviously, it's changing young kids' lives.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Man, I ain't gonna pass on this one.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I hate, man, I hate the fact that,

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<v Speaker 4>like I didn't even know you coached that Woodrow Wilson

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<v Speaker 4>High School until you got the job at Delaware State,

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<v Speaker 4>for sure, And I'm like, why the hell wasn't people

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<v Speaker 4>amplifying that. Why wasn't the media talking about that? Because

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<v Speaker 4>if you did some bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, bro, I mean for me, man, I think

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<v Speaker 2>throughout my career, men, a lot of you know what

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<v Speaker 2>has followed me, and you know, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like to use the word that. Unfortunately it is what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Growing up you know, Los Angeles around the

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<v Speaker 2>gang culture, and you know, obviously the stigma he's hanging

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<v Speaker 2>around with the wrong people, he's doing the wrong things.

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<v Speaker 2>But throughout my career, like you know, I've never went

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<v Speaker 2>to jail. You know, I've never had no feelings, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like I'm I'm kind of put in that

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<v Speaker 2>box just because I grew up and you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>guys I do hang around with may partaking certain things,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the end of the day, that's the culture

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the next where I come from. So for me,

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<v Speaker 2>like I never turned my back on them, I never

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<v Speaker 2>made it. And it was like, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't go to Crenshawn Sauce. I can't go to Crenshawn Vernon.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't gonna go to the Mert Park. That's my

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<v Speaker 2>ears in. Like I love to go back and support

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<v Speaker 2>and help pull guys out of the area because I

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<v Speaker 2>know how I feel to be stuck in there and

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<v Speaker 2>have no hope to go anywhere else, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. So for me, like I just try to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, iilize the guys that you know, I looked

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<v Speaker 2>up to my older brother who's here right now. I

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<v Speaker 2>got having the camera on my face since I've been

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<v Speaker 2>a little kid, like every step of the way, it's

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<v Speaker 2>always been a vision and I have people around me

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<v Speaker 2>to believe in my vision and help me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be or pushed me through every step of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, now I'm able to really put a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of lights on it. And you know, Amazon came

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<v Speaker 2>through and we did a deal with them. But we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be releasing a documentary and this far coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just a lot of shrill things going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just blessed, that's what's up. Did you ever feel.

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<v Speaker 5>Like at some point, like this is way before you

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<v Speaker 5>even got drafted, did you ever feel like doubt because

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<v Speaker 5>they remember they were saying that you were too small,

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<v Speaker 5>your friend was too small. It was cool which your

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<v Speaker 5>frame was too small, You have have doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, me personally, I never had doubt. I just used

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<v Speaker 2>all the naysayers and all the doubts to like fuel

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<v Speaker 2>my fire. So knowing I was always the smallest, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the smallest, but like I was always the fastest.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like my dad used to always say, well

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<v Speaker 2>if they can't hit you, and they can't, if they

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<v Speaker 2>can't catch you, they can't hit you. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So like for me, I just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>every step of way obviously couldn't nobody predict that I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna be in NFL for fifteen years? Like the

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<v Speaker 2>average crew in the NFL is three and a half years.

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<v Speaker 2>I came in that since they went in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and eight. No one would have never predicted me to

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<v Speaker 2>play fifteen years. So for me, I just I love

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<v Speaker 2>the doubting. Right now I'm facing some more doubt. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>people like man he ain't never coached college. All the

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<v Speaker 2>hell y'all gonna go hire at DeShawn Jackson to be

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<v Speaker 2>a head coach at Delaware State University. And for me, like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no shoes that are too big for me. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I could feel any shoe there is made.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously having like a guy like coach Andy Reid

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<v Speaker 2>who was my coach in Philadelphia, Deon Sanders, who's like

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<v Speaker 2>a mentor to me. You know, I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>surrounding myself around great people. It's not gonna allow me

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<v Speaker 2>to feel and I'm not gonna allow myself to feel.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the biggest thing about a head coach

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<v Speaker 2>and being in a position like this, you gotta surround

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and around I mean, you got to surround yourself

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<v Speaker 2>with people to help you be successful. And for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna put some heavy hitters in the position. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't let y'all know who I'm hiring, but I'm hiring

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<v Speaker 2>some guys that got a lot of experience played in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL, coaching and feel and coach at college at

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<v Speaker 2>a high level. So I'm excited for this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask when it comes to recruiting

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<v Speaker 1>players HBCU sometimes have a little tough especially sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people go to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Major schools, right because they feel like they get.

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<v Speaker 1>Better looks on television, and sometimes they feel the facilities

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot better when training and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you combat that part of it?

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<v Speaker 2>You really want to know absolutely, I'm about to come

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<v Speaker 2>holler at you. You went to hire y'all got that Joran sponsor?

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<v Speaker 2>I went to well, honestly, man, for me, it's sponsorships

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<v Speaker 2>in Hampton football for sure. I think, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>with the resources, like you spoke on me having a name,

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<v Speaker 2>having a guy that had the success I had, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a little easier. Obviously, you go back at

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<v Speaker 2>what Deon Sanders did at Jackson State. He kind of

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<v Speaker 2>put the plan down, He put the infrastructure down, He

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<v Speaker 2>kicked the door up and forgot. I was like myself

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<v Speaker 2>and Michael Vick obviously, I'm sure you guys seen the

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Vick get the position at Norfolk State. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, that's like a big brother me. Man, we

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<v Speaker 2>got a great relationship. I grew up looking up to

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Vick and he kind of knocked the door down

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<v Speaker 2>before I did. But it's crazy because when he got

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<v Speaker 2>he called me. It was like I got an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to either be at Sack State or Norfolk State. He

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<v Speaker 2>was like, You're gonna be my first hire. So at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, I was like, I'm interested, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to like playing, not playing, but like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of keep them limbo because I knew I would potentially

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<v Speaker 2>have my own position, so I was trying to really

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out. But I mean with them type of names, man,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously Deon Sanders, Michael Vick, and then you have Deshaun Jackson,

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<v Speaker 2>like we set up for this, and for me, I

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<v Speaker 2>think Travis Hunter and Shador Sanders obviously showed a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of players that are big that you can go to

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<v Speaker 2>an HBCU ball out and still go to a Power

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<v Speaker 2>five and still go get the nil money and do

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<v Speaker 2>everything and still be successful. So I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little more popular now. Before that, I don't see people

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<v Speaker 2>doing it like myself when I when I I was

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<v Speaker 2>coming out. Obviously, I came out in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>five and I was a big time recruit and I

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<v Speaker 2>always wanted to go to an HBCU. But for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like too big to go to one. But

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<v Speaker 2>my dad went to put through and cook me and

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<v Speaker 2>my mom went to do Cainge. So for me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a history man. It's the culture man, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pumped up ready for for real.

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<v Speaker 4>Why why don't HBC use well, why don't they have

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<v Speaker 4>more money to make high as like yours? And how

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<v Speaker 4>do we increase that? How do we get them that money?

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<v Speaker 2>Great question I think for myself. Honestly, if we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about money, me being the head coach at

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<v Speaker 2>Delaware State wasn't about money. You know, at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, my career and the money I've made

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<v Speaker 2>on the field obviously is an honor and a blessing.

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<v Speaker 2>But taking this position, it wasn't like I'm about to

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<v Speaker 2>take this position. I'm about to become some crazy million

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<v Speaker 2>dollar coach right away, you know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 2>for me, it was just a vision. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>energy I felt when I went to Delaware. The people

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<v Speaker 2>I met, obviously doctor Allen, doctor Hawkins, Tony Tucker to

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<v Speaker 2>can start, who was my guy that actually made this happen.

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<v Speaker 2>When I when I stepped foot on that campusit it

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<v Speaker 2>was just like the morale was like you could tell

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<v Speaker 2>the people around just wanted to win. They had it

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<v Speaker 2>eager for winning. It's like in the past two years

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<v Speaker 2>they won two games. I mean, like, this is not

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<v Speaker 2>an ideal situation for me, but it is because I

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm a winner, so no situation scares me. So

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<v Speaker 2>when I came into that that building, that facility, like

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, it wasn't it's high schools that are

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<v Speaker 2>better than our facilities.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even know they had a football team.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn. That's how you feel, though. That's real. But I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've heard about Delaware State, but I ain't really

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<v Speaker 2>know too much about Delawares State either. In Philadelphia is

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<v Speaker 2>right down the road. You know. I spent a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of time in Philadelphia. I played for the Washington football team.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't call them the team I used to play for,

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<v Speaker 2>no more. They Commanders or whatever it is, or that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like that name. But then I played for

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<v Speaker 2>Baltimore as well too, the Ravens my last year in

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<v Speaker 2>the league. So I'm surrounding in the same area. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I really took a liking to Philadelphia because all we see,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Cali dude. So when I got drafted to Philadelphia, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I played for six teams, but Philadelphia was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best places I played in. Man, so I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm at home. Man. I really, I really want

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<v Speaker 2>to put a gate around Delaware, around Philadelphia, around DMV,

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<v Speaker 2>around Baltimore, because at the end of the day, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of talent that goes unnoticed and all these

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<v Speaker 2>guys are going to other places, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, I think it's huge. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the pitch when I at the interview

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<v Speaker 2>for the head coaching job. It's like, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>have Deshaun Jackson coming in here. Now. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these kids when I was playing in Philadelphia were kids

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<v Speaker 2>that were five seven years you know, six seven years old,

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<v Speaker 2>and now they in high school. I'm gonna go into

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<v Speaker 2>the house and talk and it's like, wow, I remember you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Philadelphia Eagle fan. So it just makes it

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<v Speaker 2>a little easier.

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<v Speaker 3>Dig.

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<v Speaker 5>Did your mentality have to change at all going from

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<v Speaker 5>players to coach?

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<v Speaker 2>For sure? Man? How do I answer that? When I

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<v Speaker 2>think with this situation, obviously I did have to clean

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<v Speaker 2>it up a little bit. And the reason why I

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<v Speaker 2>would say that is because me and Lashan McCoy, who's

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<v Speaker 2>somebody you know, I have a lot of respect for

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like a brother to me. We was doing

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast and uh, you free on that podcast. You

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<v Speaker 2>can say what you want, you can do, you can dream,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever the case may be. So for me

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<v Speaker 2>now being the head coach, it's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>that I was having freedom to do and just relax

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<v Speaker 2>just because you know what, I worked hard, I did

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<v Speaker 2>my thing, and now I could let my hair down

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, so you know, a snap and finger.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I had to clean up. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>throughout my whole career was like that, because when you

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<v Speaker 2>walk into these offices, or you walk into these owners

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<v Speaker 2>or these coaches, you know, you just can't be in

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<v Speaker 2>there just being yourself. You know what I'm saying. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to clean up and you gotta pertrain a certain image.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, like I've been used to that, I

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<v Speaker 2>know how to turn the switch on and off. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest thing is when you leading a university,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you have to be the resemblance of what

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<v Speaker 2>you want your young men to look like. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you just you just want them to own own up

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<v Speaker 2>to the responsibility of being young man, to be responsible,

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<v Speaker 2>to work hard, and just all the characteristics you want

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<v Speaker 2>in a young man to be able to be a

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<v Speaker 2>grown man when you're done with them. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest thing is when I walk in the door,

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<v Speaker 2>I look at these young men like young men when

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<v Speaker 2>they leave out that during that graduate I want them

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<v Speaker 2>to become grown man. So you just got to start

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<v Speaker 2>principles and just let them know. And I think the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing for me is I know what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what they I know what the next level wants.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the things not to do and what to

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<v Speaker 2>do because I'm not the perfect pitch. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>did a lot of things that you know, I had

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<v Speaker 2>to learn from and and now looking back, especially the

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<v Speaker 2>social media space. Like I posted a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>when I was young, and the older God was like, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I didn post that. Damn I always I

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<v Speaker 2>want to show with that.

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<v Speaker 5>But it also shows them that you are relatable to Yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>You got stigmas all that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So you don't claim show.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, don't claim it. Just say a I for real,

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<v Speaker 2>that's real. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Kevin Hart your gout, Sir Kevin Hart came

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<v Speaker 1>up here and he said some things about Delaware state.

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<v Speaker 3>Culture.

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<v Speaker 2>When you don't let it go, come on, let it be.

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<v Speaker 4>Know why did you go since she didn't, I thought

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<v Speaker 4>I was trying to university.

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<v Speaker 1>You just a bunch of niggas.

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<v Speaker 3>Delaware.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he's a huge Eagle fan. I know you

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<v Speaker 3>guys are close. Did you call him and you got

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<v Speaker 3>the job and be like, bro, you got to take

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<v Speaker 3>that back. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>See what's crazy is I didn't even know about that

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<v Speaker 2>viral moment until like maybe like a few hours ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a viral just in Delaware was so so

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<v Speaker 2>when I heard when I heard about what he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I reached out to him, and you know, I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to get him to call in to apologize you because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, now your little hommy is the head coach

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<v Speaker 2>over there. But uh, you know he's dealing with all

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<v Speaker 2>the fires and I think he's shooting up a show

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<v Speaker 2>right now. But one thing I'll said about Kevin Man,

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin is a great dude and got a great relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with him. I know he just say thing, you know

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<v Speaker 2>how he is, Kevin just saying comedy, Kevin just joking.

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<v Speaker 2>He just be popping it. But for sure Kevin's gonna come.

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<v Speaker 2>He gonna come support. I mean, you know his roosts

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<v Speaker 2>for Philadelphia and being a huge Eagle fan. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, man, what I need to do? Y'all

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<v Speaker 2>got a building I can put my name on. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>we got a whole lot of stuff you can put

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<v Speaker 2>your name on. It's HBCU. We gonna need you. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to build a lot of relationship and

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<v Speaker 2>I got a lot of relationships with you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Rubin is a guy that I reached out to

0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.680
<v Speaker 2>and you know he congratulated me as well too. So

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<v Speaker 2>just looking forward to put on our resources man and

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<v Speaker 2>bring it together. Man, because I think we got a

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<v Speaker 2>big opportunity, man, to change the perspective on HBCUs Man,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm I'm stoked. I'm ready to get it going

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you know what when you become a when

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<v Speaker 4>you become a parent, you start looking at your parents different,

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<v Speaker 4>like you kind of just appreciate them more and respect

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<v Speaker 4>them more and understood what they went through. Now that

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<v Speaker 4>you're a coach, do you feel like that about your

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<v Speaker 4>old coaches because you probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Give them your I promise I did. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy because when I was younger, my mom was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you bad, but your kids are gonna be that much

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<v Speaker 2>more bad than you are. So now obviously I got

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<v Speaker 2>two sons six and nine, and my nine year old boy,

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<v Speaker 2>he would give me a run for my money. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, I feel what you're saying. But Craig,

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<v Speaker 2>you said that because I was in the team meeting

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<v Speaker 2>with the guys that met him for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>like two days ago, and I could just see like, man, like,

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<v Speaker 2>these dudes gonna give me a run for my money.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a good thing because it's relatable, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. I literally was just in their seats.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what they want to do, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to sit here and police them like you young man,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know right from wrong. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be an elite scholar athlete, it's certain things you have

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<v Speaker 2>to do. I mean, it got to look a certain way,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the nature to Beninson. Now, it's a lot

0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.879
<v Speaker 2>of money involved in these colleges, like you able to

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<v Speaker 2>get paid for it, so I'm able to really walk

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<v Speaker 2>in there and say, look, if you want xyz, this

0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:56.480
<v Speaker 2>is what you gotta do. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't do it like this, Delawaes State

0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.960
<v Speaker 2>might not be your fit. You know, it's unfortunate. But

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<v Speaker 2>I want guys that want to do this. I want

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<v Speaker 2>guys that want to play at the next level, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I know what I want to accomplish there. And like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't got time to wait. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>got time to mess around, Like we're not rebuilding. We

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<v Speaker 2>coming there right now. We want to win this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you thought about that, like what Chaulaman said, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these students might come in there, someone might

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<v Speaker 1>be feeling themselves a little bit talk too, a little crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're in the league, you could talk back. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure you can talk to your coach.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you might have to go move some furniture,

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<v Speaker 1>but now you're a coach, you can't move that furniture.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't move that furniture. But one thing I will say,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a respect It's a respect level. And

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<v Speaker 2>I always say, like, how do you like when you

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<v Speaker 2>first meet somebody, Like do you come in there and

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<v Speaker 2>just expect or like, say you you got a job

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<v Speaker 2>or you're a boss and you hire somebody, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you might have an authority, but you're not just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>talk to him any type of way. Now, you do

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<v Speaker 2>have certain bosses that do feel like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna talk to you any type of way, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care how you feel, but like, is he

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<v Speaker 2>really gonna run runt through a wall for you? So

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<v Speaker 2>for me, it's like my perspective, if I'm gonna come

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<v Speaker 2>here and ask you to do certain things, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>mutual build that report with you before I just come

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<v Speaker 2>at you crazy and talk to you crazy, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I may expect you to run through a wall

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<v Speaker 2>for me, and you I don't know you, like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't trust you. You got to build that before you

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<v Speaker 2>just run through a wall. So I feel like building

0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.399
<v Speaker 2>that trust and letting them know, like you know what

0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I was once in your position. I know where you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go. Let me help you get there. Follow

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<v Speaker 2>my steps. I can't make I can't go play for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I did my thing on the field. I can't go

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<v Speaker 2>play for you. D Jack can't go on the field

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<v Speaker 2>and go catch a pass for you. But I can

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what it takes to get there, and if

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<v Speaker 2>it's on you to follow me. Like I told my players,

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<v Speaker 2>I love y'all, and I don't use that word lightly.

0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.439
<v Speaker 2>I said I love y'all, but it's on y'all to

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<v Speaker 2>make me not love y'all. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I turn my back on you, it's because

0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you made me turn your back. It's not because I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think. Because at the end of the day, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>coming in with love. I'm giving y'all love. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>coming in here trying to be your daddy. Y'all got dads,

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<v Speaker 2>I got kids. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all gonna respect me. Because if y'all respect me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get you where you I'm gonna get you to

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<v Speaker 2>where you want to go to.

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<v Speaker 5>And then a good thing to always go to, always

0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.760
<v Speaker 5>humble them, is y'all are in Delaware.

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<v Speaker 2>There ain't nothing out your head. We're gonna turn out.

0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.000
<v Speaker 2>You come to the game, bring it back. You know,

0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you gotta come support it. But there ain't nothing in Delaware.

0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:18.880
<v Speaker 2>They got nothing to do but staying in. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, you know it's crazy. So within the past

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<v Speaker 2>two three days I've been out there. I've been driving

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<v Speaker 2>going to get food because obviously dovers like everything is

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<v Speaker 2>on this one strip. So we're driving out. I seen

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<v Speaker 2>probably like ten of my my student athletes were driving

0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.440
<v Speaker 2>down in the car that like coach like, man, look

0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.600
<v Speaker 2>it's another player. There's another player. So it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>real close and it's like it's family oriented. For sure.

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<v Speaker 4>You might need that at this point in your life,

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<v Speaker 4>cause you say, you do fifteen years your time you

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<v Speaker 4>was quiet, but you still have Cali's off for sure,

0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.080
<v Speaker 4>run all your family, your friends. You might need that

0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:48.840
<v Speaker 4>that quiet life.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely do. And I think for me, man, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a great time because those who really know me, after

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 2>my fifteen year career is over, I retired in twenty

0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.159
<v Speaker 2>two two when I played for the Ravens. So right

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<v Speaker 2>when I tired, I got both my kids full time

0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.120
<v Speaker 2>and their mom wasn't around, So I think that really

0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.879
<v Speaker 2>helped me too, and that really like put some discipline in,

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, because if I didn't have them, I would

0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.720
<v Speaker 2>have probably been traveling, spending money, blowing money. I would

0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:17.440
<v Speaker 2>have been everywhere. Because obviously people don't understand. So it's

0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:19.679
<v Speaker 2>not only fifteen years, it's the three years before that,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe one or two years before that when I

0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:23.719
<v Speaker 2>was in high school, because I was a high profile

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:26.000
<v Speaker 2>player coming out of high school. So you gotta think

0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:29.439
<v Speaker 2>all them years of non stop working out, training, this, that,

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<v Speaker 2>and the third. So it was twenty twenty two when

0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I retired where I was like, I could have really

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.679
<v Speaker 2>just splurged and just went crazy. But I got my

0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.600
<v Speaker 2>kids full time, so that really helped me sit down,

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:41.240
<v Speaker 2>and I was taking them to school, picking them up,

0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:42.680
<v Speaker 2>taking them to sports, and doing a lot of things.

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.000
<v Speaker 2>So I think last year was like, all right, hold on,

0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I just did that for a whole year. I said,

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:48.480
<v Speaker 2>now it's time. I can't beat the baby daddy and

0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 2>the baby mama. I said, I got to go coach.

0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Went to go coach with my older brother, Uh, Coach

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Clark who's in the building. And I just give a

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.480
<v Speaker 2>huge shout out to Coach Clark. He's a huge inspiration

0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.120
<v Speaker 2>on my life and not only to my life, ment

0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:01.159
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of a lot of young men. He

0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 2>put a lot of young guys into college active college

0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:06.679
<v Speaker 2>players right now that the ballers. Man, I'm excited for

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 2>his journey because this was a dream come true for

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 2>him to get this spot in his position.

0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:11.720
<v Speaker 3>And he's coming with you.

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<v Speaker 2>He come. I made him my assistant head coach, man

0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:15.159
<v Speaker 2>because just for everything he meant to me and what

0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.400
<v Speaker 2>he did, I missed the dream come true. Man, He's

0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 2>leaving his family, he's leaving his daughters, he left his

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 2>school that we just built some crazy that it's never

0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 2>been happening one hundred years. And he coming. Man. So man,

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:27.159
<v Speaker 2>I just want to tell.

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<v Speaker 3>You I appreciate you.

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.280
<v Speaker 4>What about someone like you know, like I said, you know,

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 4>even with the coaching thing that Woodrow was in high school,

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 4>there's things that people don't amplify.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that you had.

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<v Speaker 4>Custody in kids because you go the way around, right

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:44.879
<v Speaker 4>the daddy wasn't around. Why wasn't the mother around?

0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:49.120
<v Speaker 2>So some personal things went down. So, you know, we

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 2>was we were trying to work out our situation, and

0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 2>throughout our situation, I was actually I was playing for

0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:57.439
<v Speaker 2>the Los Angeles Rams in twenty twenty one, and uh,

0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.239
<v Speaker 2>throughout that period of time, you know, we was back

0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 2>and forth on and off for about six or seven years,

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:04.440
<v Speaker 2>and it just came a point of time where we

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 2>couldn't really figure it out. She left and you know,

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:12.640
<v Speaker 2>start dealing with some individual and the principles didn't the line,

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. The guy she was dealing

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 2>with didn't aligne to what I was preaching and doing

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 2>over here, and we kind of just didn't see eye

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 2>to eye. We didn't talk, we lost communication. And for me,

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:25.880
<v Speaker 2>like I'm a very respectful man, and I understand when

0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.880
<v Speaker 2>you're in a partnership and you have kids with somebody,

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 2>you have to ligne and the things on the line,

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.240
<v Speaker 2>like I'm not gonna have my kids be around somebody

0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 2>that I can't talk to them, or I can't know

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 2>where their location is, or I'm not going for that

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 2>like my dad did. In't start all principles in me

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 2>and I would never turn my back on my kids.

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 2>So I'm very influential on my kids' life. And uh yeah.

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 2>So it just went and we didn't talk, and I

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm grabbed my kids and it was nothing,

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, nothing too personal. But at the end of

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 2>the day, I just had to grab my kids, man,

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 2>And for me, that was like I could not be

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:58.719
<v Speaker 2>one of them. Dass, it's just not around. Man. Then

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 2>you got two boys and I love them death.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like a court situation.

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 5>No.

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:05.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it almost got to some court stuff, but

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 2>like we really figured it out before the end and

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.159
<v Speaker 2>so it didn't really have to get messy because you know,

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.360
<v Speaker 2>of course it's public. You try like hi, you try

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:13.400
<v Speaker 2>to close case and all that, and it just kind

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.119
<v Speaker 2>of got to to atter. So I was like, you

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 2>know what, let me just you know, get them, and

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 2>she granted them to me and stuff, and then we

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:20.440
<v Speaker 2>just kind of did like that. But it's it's good

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 2>now because now that I'm coaching, you know, she ain't

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 2>dealing with the dude no more, and like me and

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 2>her is cool now. So I'm like, all right, cool,

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.200
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna help me Out'm about to get this full

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 2>time coaching job. The kids can come back with you

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 2>and you know where. Everything's good. So them two years

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 2>it was tricky though, but we're good now.

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 5>Now you're from la is your family okay, we got there.

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, it's crazy. So I'm supposed to be going

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 2>back Saturday. I'm gonna actually stay in town for the

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Eagle game on Sunday, but my mom's here. She came

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:48.880
<v Speaker 2>in town for it. But yeah, like my family, it's

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:50.439
<v Speaker 2>kind of more on the outskirts, but a lot of

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.959
<v Speaker 2>people in la man, it's you know, it's crazy. Man.

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I just want to pray for my city, man, and

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, hopefully everything gets you know, handles.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got to ask, you know, before you leave.

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, the Eagles and Giants rivalry was crazy. I've

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 1>been to one game in Philly and I told myself

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll never go back.

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Just the fans in Philly is differently, It's crazy. I

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:12.159
<v Speaker 3>seen nothing like that. I had a baby with me

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:18.120
<v Speaker 3>and they was still we don't care. I'm like Jesus,

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 3>but what did you think about the Giants?

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Uh lettings at Congo?

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 3>Let me seengo.

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, honestly, that was the stupidest thing you

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.679
<v Speaker 2>could have ever did. And what's crazy? I think like

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 2>one of the so it was like a front office

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 2>guy who was actually on the Eagles. He worked for

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the Eagles and then like he went to New York

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 2>and he was in the room because I remember when

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 2>they was making the decision and I seen him, like, man,

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 2>he used to work for Philly. It's crazy to come

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 2>sitting there listening to what they're talking about that like, oh, yeah,

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 2>you know he yead okay year, but you know we

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 2>could we could probably just let him go, like we're

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 2>not gonna play him. And I'm just listening to the

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 2>conversation and to see a year, not even a year later,

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 2>he's killing killing at a high level, and I think,

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, sometimes it's just like you need that fresh start,

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 2>you need that energy because you know, when you're at

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 2>a team. I hope none of y'all giants fans, but

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 2>when you're I am.

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 3>A giant, can we put a uh? I got turned

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 3>into this.

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Way, but talking about a cowboy friend, say at even bad,

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 2>But that's what I said.

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Cow girl, I'm a cowboy killer.

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 2>I know about it.

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.439
<v Speaker 4>My daddy was a cowboy fan. He's a cowboy fan.

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't you know, I'm grandfather. Then every year to

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 4>say going the Super Bowl.

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Every that's what they say. My boy, I got a

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 2>best friend. He was a diehard cowgirl fan, my bwgirl fan.

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.679
<v Speaker 3>And every year this o this our here, this our yere.

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Then midway through the season, maybe I'm like, bro, y'all

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 2>need to just get rid of Jerry Jones. Man, once

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 2>you'll get your get rid of him and Jones.

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:50.959
<v Speaker 3>The other day I saw him.

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Another day, I saw him the same Boughts and I

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 4>told him, I said, man, we gotta get this ship together,

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 4>and he hit me with some rich white man ship like.

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, we digged and we were supposed.

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 4>To zag, but.

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah you good. Lamar Jackson went crazy this year.

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 2>What you'all predicted on the Super Bowl? I actually think

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore Baltimore.

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I got a feeling.

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 4>About Baltimore stuff, Baltimore, Philly, the.

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:20.639
<v Speaker 3>Chiefs, I think. I think I think Eagle's gonna get well.

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 4>Actually, Baltimore Baltimore. I want to say Baltimore and Philly,

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 4>but I think Baltimore in the Lions.

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:26.439
<v Speaker 2>I like it. I like that that could be a

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 2>potentials look good.

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.120
<v Speaker 4>But I wanted to say to you know, a lot

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 4>of these coaches are leaving, especially like old the white coaches,

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 4>because they say they can't handle these kids and these

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 4>n I L deals. And that's why I think it's

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 4>good for guys like you, because you made damn one

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 4>hundred million in the league, and I think the one

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 4>thing that they're missing. Yeah, they might be making some

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 4>money now, but there's a whole bigger, bigger, bigger bag

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 4>to get later. And I think only guys that have

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 4>done it like yourself can relate.

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<v Speaker 2>To them kids like that. I mean, you support me, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely supporting d jack Man love HBC.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he asked for help me.

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<v Speaker 2>But they said I got y'all for real. I'm locking

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<v Speaker 2>with y'all whatever y'all want to put him my Hamp.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate you, you know, I like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was how Hamp.

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<v Speaker 4>And we don't sclude Eddie George enough either. They always

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<v Speaker 4>talked about Mike and Eddie.

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<v Speaker 2>George does this thing over there too. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, we definitely come out in support, definitely.

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<v Speaker 4>And I saw what Dean said about you. He just

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<v Speaker 4>like everybody needs to wrap their arms around your stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you always been in your corner like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Dion has always been a big influencial for me, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I think going back to when I was in high school, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>he used to reach out to me and I had

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to sit with him a few times on

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<v Speaker 2>official with him a few times, just really pick his brain. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's he's a special dude. Man. Him and

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<v Speaker 2>him and Jerry Rice are like my two mentors. So

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<v Speaker 2>to have two guys like that in my corner man

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<v Speaker 2>every step of the way, even like while I was playing,

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<v Speaker 2>even before I got to the league. So I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that ain't that ain't just a post. He's just posting

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<v Speaker 2>like we really locked in and we got a real

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<v Speaker 2>great relationship and he's helping out a lot like my think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, in our culture, we don't give

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<v Speaker 2>a flowers to people that really like support us and

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<v Speaker 2>help us out. I definitely want to give Coach promised

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<v Speaker 2>flowers because he's for the culture. He is the culture.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's doing some great things and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people still hating on him, like at a big level, Man,

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 2>what his sons is doing, like that should dream come

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<v Speaker 2>true man for any man. And I know they ball

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<v Speaker 2>and he's doing I don't care. Man, if you got

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to coach your kids and see him at

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<v Speaker 2>the highest level and to see like that, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>he become the first pick. You know what, Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all can't get him. Well, Tennessee Titans might be able

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. Patriots don't.

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<v Speaker 3>They got the first, the Tennessee Titans first. First, the

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<v Speaker 3>Titans and the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they need to make it the package deal. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Let the daddy and the coach man go in. They

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<v Speaker 2>probably come back and get shy later on. Maybe get

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<v Speaker 2>Travis at the two. You never know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Brime said some fliction on Willow and Gilly said, I

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<v Speaker 4>picked it up.

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 2>He was like he on something.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, I would coach in the NFL if

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<v Speaker 4>I could coach my to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, see what you know a little something that

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<v Speaker 2>the only way he ain't going back to Colorado is

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<v Speaker 2>something like that happening. I know them, man, He's a yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he liked that. It might we might see that. It

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<v Speaker 2>might be crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love for the Giants to pick him up.

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<v Speaker 2>Giants glory, y'all want I mean a non meaningful game,

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<v Speaker 2>like why would y'all. That was stupid as hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Asked, do y'all ever, I mean in the NFL, do

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<v Speaker 1>y'all ever, just say like, there's no sense of winning

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<v Speaker 1>this game.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's not win this game. Does that conversation happen?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't account for that now higher up potentially, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because they want them number one picks. I believe that happens.

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 2>But as a player, you go out there playing around,

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get hurt and one injury with in your career,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not really worth going out there trying to

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<v Speaker 2>bs and mess around in terror a cl or be

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 2>knocked out on that. You gotta think them growing in

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 2>on that field. They taking care of their families and

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 2>they want their bonuses. So it's a lot of money

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>riding on them games. So I never partected none that.

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I can't speak for nobody else, but I ain't. Ever

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<v Speaker 2>they should have just pulled some of the players.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen in, let's pull this one out.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing for him to win that game, nothing like, come on,

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 2>that was the first home win. You feel me like,

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>come on, what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only game I ain't going I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to We're gonna lose this one.

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting the house like, what the is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy? Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, Well, we appreciate you for joining us. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>Congratulations again, man, thank you. Absolutely not gonna be the situation, right,

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<v Speaker 4>You're not gonna they ain't gonna end U quitting before.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, nothing I do our quitting life. Man, We're gonna

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 2>be there to support everything all going. I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to tell y'all to man, y'all been killing it with y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Show man. Been watching y'all for a long time. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>rest in peace. Nipsey Hustle, that's my brother, that ship

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 2>with him. But I've been watching y'all. Sh y'all do

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<v Speaker 2>y'all thing. Man, y'all keep going, man, take it off. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, it's to Sean Jackson, the new head

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<v Speaker 1>of the coach, the new head coach for Delaware State Hornets,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Breakfast Club.