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Ladies and gentlemen, 28 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Deshaun Jackson. 29 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: Welcome, brother, gratulations, Come on, man, appreciate you all for 30 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: having me. Man, it's a blessing. 31 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: How you feeling, first and foremost? 32 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: Brother, Man, It's surreal man, Honestly, bro, I'm in a 33 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: position man, you know, going We're just going through my 34 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: whole life and my accomplishments, obviously playing at a high 35 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: level since I've been a littlegit little kid, you know, 36 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: from Pop Winner all the way to high school to 37 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: college and obviously my NFL career were in New York 38 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: right now, so I know a lot of New York 39 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: just hate me for a little bit. But you know, 40 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: it's all good. But man, honestly, man for a circle 41 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: to be a head coach and the nflctor retiring two 42 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: years ago, manute, it's a surreal feeling. Man. 43 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: I love seeing brothers like you get these kind of jobs. 44 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 4: But it's obvious the obviously these get going for the 45 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: money because a lot of the to use just don't 46 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 4: have it, So what what what? 47 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: What is the motivation? 48 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: Honestly, man, it's to change young kids' lives. Man, give 49 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: them opportunities, give them hope. I mean really the visionary 50 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: for myself was coming for where I came from. Grew 51 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: up in Los Angeles, California, whereally didn't have a lot 52 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: of resources, didn't have a lot of hope. Moms pops 53 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: didn't really have a lot of money to help. So 54 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: sports and ball was my only way out. So I 55 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of young black kids, a lot 56 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: of kids in general, you know, coming from the area 57 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: as we come from. I mean to have a guy 58 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: like myself that knows every step of the way to 59 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: get there. I mean, why not go touch these young kids' lives, man, 60 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: to help them change their lives? 61 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: How to come about? 62 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: How? 63 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: How did why Delaware? How did that position happen? 64 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: People say why Delaware? I say why not? Though, But honestly, 65 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: so I was last year was my first year of 66 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: coaching high school, and my older brother had a opportunity 67 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: to get a coaching job in Long Beach before I 68 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: went to Long Beach. Probably when the number with the 69 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: number one high school in America have put you know, 70 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: guys into the NFL. So when I had I had 71 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: a call. My brother's like, man, I could get a job, 72 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: but it's in Long Beach. But it wasn't the high 73 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: school I went to. It was like a rival school. 74 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: So I'm like, ah, that's gonna be hard to do. 75 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: But when you got the job, I was like, man, 76 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: you get it. I'm gonna come work with you. Man. 77 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: I got an opportunity to go coach on the last year, 78 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: and I fell in love with it. Obviously, I played 79 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: fifteen years and I can't get back to go out 80 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: there and catch touchdown. So going out there and helping 81 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: them young kids and train them, it just like it 82 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: kind of mashed that void that I missed from catching 83 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: touchdowns to training these young kids. And it was like 84 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: I got into it and I fell in love with him, 85 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: man I said. Man, I got an opportunity to really 86 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: change these young kids' lives. I got so much knowledge 87 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: and insight on the game. It would be crazy for 88 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: me not to get it back to these young guys 89 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: and you know, help them do every step. Or they 90 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: were to have the Delaware call or did you reach 91 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: out to Delaware? 92 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: How did that happen so. 93 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: Delaware, Delaware State. Actually, one of a good friend of 94 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: mine hit me and he was like, well, you want 95 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: to coach college football? I'm like college football, Like, I 96 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: just played fifteen years in the league. You know how 97 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: my time is just everything in my path. I'm like, 98 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: I'm chilling feet kicked out them at the house. I 99 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: ain't working because you know, it's a lot a lot 100 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 2: of people don't understand the hard work to go. I 101 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: was going to be a professional athlete. So when I 102 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: got the call, I'm like college football. I'm like, I'm 103 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: having a heck of a time right now. Coach in 104 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: high school college, that's time. That time is crazy. I'm like, nah, 105 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. Literally, like an hour later, 106 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: I got another call from coach Clark, who's like a 107 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: big brother mentor to me, and he was like, bro, 108 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: you interested in the coach in college. I'm like, hold on, 109 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: what the hell is going on? Is getting crazy now? 110 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: I was like, man, ain't you in school? Because he's 111 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: a teacher. I'm like antient and school, I said, man, 112 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: calling back later and we'll talk about it. So I 113 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: sat back and thought about it. I was like, you 114 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: know what I'm gonna consider it, and literally less than 115 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: forty eight dollars. I'm on a flight going to Delaware. 116 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: So they actually inquired on me and reached out through 117 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: a few mutual you know guys I knew, and it 118 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: was like, Man, I had to go take this opportunity, man, 119 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: I said, I couldn't pass on it for something I 120 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: really want to do it. Obviously, it's changing young kids' lives. 121 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: I was like, Man, I ain't gonna pass on this one. 122 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 4: You know what I hate, man, I hate the fact that, 123 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 4: like I didn't even know you coached that Woodrow Wilson 124 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: High School until you got the job at Delaware State, 125 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: for sure, And I'm like, why the hell wasn't people 126 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: amplifying that. Why wasn't the media talking about that? Because 127 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: if you did some bullshit. 128 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: For sure, bro, I mean for me, man, I think 129 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 2: throughout my career, men, a lot of you know what 130 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: has followed me, and you know, I don't I don't 131 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: like to use the word that. Unfortunately it is what 132 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: it is. Growing up you know, Los Angeles around the 133 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: gang culture, and you know, obviously the stigma he's hanging 134 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: around with the wrong people, he's doing the wrong things. 135 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: But throughout my career, like you know, I've never went 136 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: to jail. You know, I've never had no feelings, you know, 137 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: So it's like I'm I'm kind of put in that 138 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: box just because I grew up and you know, the 139 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: guys I do hang around with may partaking certain things, 140 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, that's the culture 141 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: and that's the next where I come from. So for me, 142 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: like I never turned my back on them, I never 143 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: made it. And it was like, you know what, I 144 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: can't go to Crenshawn Sauce. I can't go to Crenshawn Vernon. 145 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna go to the Mert Park. That's my 146 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: ears in. Like I love to go back and support 147 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: and help pull guys out of the area because I 148 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: know how I feel to be stuck in there and 149 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: have no hope to go anywhere else, you know what 150 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: I mean. So for me, like I just try to 151 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: you know, iilize the guys that you know, I looked 152 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: up to my older brother who's here right now. I 153 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: got having the camera on my face since I've been 154 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: a little kid, like every step of the way, it's 155 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: always been a vision and I have people around me 156 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: to believe in my vision and help me, you know, 157 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: be or pushed me through every step of the way. 158 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: And you know, now I'm able to really put a 159 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: lot of lights on it. And you know, Amazon came 160 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: through and we did a deal with them. But we're 161 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: gonna be releasing a documentary and this far coming up. 162 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: So it's just a lot of shrill things going on, 163 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: and I'm just blessed, that's what's up. Did you ever feel. 164 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 5: Like at some point, like this is way before you 165 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 5: even got drafted, did you ever feel like doubt because 166 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 5: they remember they were saying that you were too small, 167 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 5: your friend was too small. It was cool which your 168 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 5: frame was too small, You have have doubt. 169 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: Honestly, me personally, I never had doubt. I just used 170 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: all the naysayers and all the doubts to like fuel 171 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: my fire. So knowing I was always the smallest, one 172 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: of the smallest, but like I was always the fastest. 173 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: So I'm like my dad used to always say, well 174 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: if they can't hit you, and they can't, if they 175 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: can't catch you, they can't hit you. You know what 176 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So like for me, I just kind of 177 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: every step of way obviously couldn't nobody predict that I 178 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: was gonna be in NFL for fifteen years? Like the 179 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: average crew in the NFL is three and a half years. 180 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 2: I came in that since they went in two thousand 181 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: and eight. No one would have never predicted me to 182 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: play fifteen years. So for me, I just I love 183 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: the doubting. Right now I'm facing some more doubt. You know, 184 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: people like man he ain't never coached college. All the 185 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: hell y'all gonna go hire at DeShawn Jackson to be 186 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: a head coach at Delaware State University. And for me, like, 187 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: there's no shoes that are too big for me. I 188 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: feel like I could feel any shoe there is made. 189 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: And obviously having like a guy like coach Andy Reid 190 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: who was my coach in Philadelphia, Deon Sanders, who's like 191 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: a mentor to me. You know, I feel like I'm 192 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: surrounding myself around great people. It's not gonna allow me 193 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: to feel and I'm not gonna allow myself to feel. 194 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: So I think the biggest thing about a head coach 195 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: and being in a position like this, you gotta surround 196 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: yourself and around I mean, you got to surround yourself 197 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: with people to help you be successful. And for me, 198 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put some heavy hitters in the position. I 199 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: can't let y'all know who I'm hiring, but I'm hiring 200 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: some guys that got a lot of experience played in 201 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: the NFL, coaching and feel and coach at college at 202 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: a high level. So I'm excited for this opportunity. 203 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: I was going to ask when it comes to recruiting 204 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: players HBCU sometimes have a little tough especially sometimes you know, 205 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: people go to the. 206 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: Major schools, right because they feel like they get. 207 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Better looks on television, and sometimes they feel the facilities 208 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: are a lot better when training and things like that. 209 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: So how do you combat that part of it? 210 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: You really want to know absolutely, I'm about to come 211 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: holler at you. You went to hire y'all got that Joran sponsor? 212 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: I went to well, honestly, man, for me, it's sponsorships 213 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: in Hampton football for sure. I think, you know, just 214 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: with the resources, like you spoke on me having a name, 215 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: having a guy that had the success I had, I 216 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: think it's a little easier. Obviously, you go back at 217 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: what Deon Sanders did at Jackson State. He kind of 218 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 2: put the plan down, He put the infrastructure down, He 219 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: kicked the door up and forgot. I was like myself 220 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: and Michael Vick obviously, I'm sure you guys seen the 221 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: Michael Vick get the position at Norfolk State. You know, 222 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 2: for me, that's like a big brother me. Man, we 223 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: got a great relationship. I grew up looking up to 224 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: Michael Vick and he kind of knocked the door down 225 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: before I did. But it's crazy because when he got 226 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: he called me. It was like I got an opportunity 227 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: to either be at Sack State or Norfolk State. He 228 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: was like, You're gonna be my first hire. So at 229 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: the same time, I was like, I'm interested, but I 230 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: was trying to like playing, not playing, but like kind 231 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: of keep them limbo because I knew I would potentially 232 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: have my own position, so I was trying to really 233 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: figure it out. But I mean with them type of names, man, 234 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: obviously Deon Sanders, Michael Vick, and then you have Deshaun Jackson, 235 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: like we set up for this, and for me, I 236 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: think Travis Hunter and Shador Sanders obviously showed a lot 237 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: of players that are big that you can go to 238 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: an HBCU ball out and still go to a Power 239 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: five and still go get the nil money and do 240 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: everything and still be successful. So I think it's a 241 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 2: little more popular now. Before that, I don't see people 242 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: doing it like myself when I when I I was 243 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: coming out. Obviously, I came out in two thousand and 244 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: five and I was a big time recruit and I 245 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: always wanted to go to an HBCU. But for me, 246 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: I was like too big to go to one. But 247 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: my dad went to put through and cook me and 248 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: my mom went to do Cainge. So for me, it's 249 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 2: just a history man. It's the culture man, and I'm 250 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm pumped up ready for for real. 251 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 4: Why why don't HBC use well, why don't they have 252 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: more money to make high as like yours? And how 253 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: do we increase that? How do we get them that money? 254 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: Great question I think for myself. Honestly, if we're going 255 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: to talk about money, me being the head coach at 256 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: Delaware State wasn't about money. You know, at the end 257 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: of the day, my career and the money I've made 258 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: on the field obviously is an honor and a blessing. 259 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 2: But taking this position, it wasn't like I'm about to 260 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: take this position. I'm about to become some crazy million 261 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: dollar coach right away, you know what I'm saying. So 262 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: for me, it was just a vision. It was the 263 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: energy I felt when I went to Delaware. The people 264 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: I met, obviously doctor Allen, doctor Hawkins, Tony Tucker to 265 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: can start, who was my guy that actually made this happen. 266 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: When I when I stepped foot on that campusit it 267 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: was just like the morale was like you could tell 268 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: the people around just wanted to win. They had it 269 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: eager for winning. It's like in the past two years 270 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: they won two games. I mean, like, this is not 271 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: an ideal situation for me, but it is because I 272 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: know I'm a winner, so no situation scares me. So 273 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: when I came into that that building, that facility, like 274 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: like you said, it wasn't it's high schools that are 275 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 2: better than our facilities. 276 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: I didn't even know they had a football team. 277 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: Damn. That's how you feel, though. That's real. But I mean, honestly, 278 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: like I've heard about Delaware State, but I ain't really 279 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: know too much about Delawares State either. In Philadelphia is 280 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: right down the road. You know. I spent a lot 281 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: of time in Philadelphia. I played for the Washington football team. 282 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: They don't call them the team I used to play for, 283 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: no more. They Commanders or whatever it is, or that 284 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: I don't like that name. But then I played for 285 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: Baltimore as well too, the Ravens my last year in 286 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 2: the league. So I'm surrounding in the same area. Man. 287 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: I really took a liking to Philadelphia because all we see, 288 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: I'm a Cali dude. So when I got drafted to Philadelphia, like, 289 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: I played for six teams, but Philadelphia was one of 290 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: the best places I played in. Man, so I feel 291 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: like I'm at home. Man. I really, I really want 292 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: to put a gate around Delaware, around Philadelphia, around DMV, 293 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: around Baltimore, because at the end of the day, it's 294 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: a lot of talent that goes unnoticed and all these 295 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: guys are going to other places, you know what I'm saying. 296 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: So for me, I think it's huge. And that was 297 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: a part of the pitch when I at the interview 298 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: for the head coaching job. It's like, I mean, you 299 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: have Deshaun Jackson coming in here. Now. A lot of 300 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: these kids when I was playing in Philadelphia were kids 301 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: that were five seven years you know, six seven years old, 302 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: and now they in high school. I'm gonna go into 303 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: the house and talk and it's like, wow, I remember you. 304 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: I'm a Philadelphia Eagle fan. So it just makes it 305 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: a little easier. 306 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: Dig. 307 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 5: Did your mentality have to change at all going from 308 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 5: players to coach? 309 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: For sure? Man? How do I answer that? When I 310 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: think with this situation, obviously I did have to clean 311 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: it up a little bit. And the reason why I 312 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: would say that is because me and Lashan McCoy, who's 313 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: somebody you know, I have a lot of respect for 314 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: and it's like a brother to me. We was doing 315 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: a podcast and uh, you free on that podcast. You 316 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: can say what you want, you can do, you can dream, 317 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: you know, whatever the case may be. So for me 318 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: now being the head coach, it's a lot of things 319 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: that I was having freedom to do and just relax 320 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: just because you know what, I worked hard, I did 321 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: my thing, and now I could let my hair down 322 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: a little bit, so you know, a snap and finger. 323 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: You know, I had to clean up. But I think 324 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: throughout my whole career was like that, because when you 325 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: walk into these offices, or you walk into these owners 326 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: or these coaches, you know, you just can't be in 327 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: there just being yourself. You know what I'm saying. You 328 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: got to clean up and you gotta pertrain a certain image. 329 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: So for me, like I've been used to that, I 330 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: know how to turn the switch on and off. And 331 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is when you leading a university, 332 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: you know, you have to be the resemblance of what 333 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: you want your young men to look like. So I mean, 334 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: you just you just want them to own own up 335 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: to the responsibility of being young man, to be responsible, 336 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: to work hard, and just all the characteristics you want 337 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: in a young man to be able to be a 338 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: grown man when you're done with them. And I think 339 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: the biggest thing is when I walk in the door, 340 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: I look at these young men like young men when 341 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: they leave out that during that graduate I want them 342 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: to become grown man. So you just got to start 343 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: principles and just let them know. And I think the 344 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: biggest thing for me is I know what it looks like. 345 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: I know what they I know what the next level wants. 346 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: I know the things not to do and what to 347 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: do because I'm not the perfect pitch. You know, I 348 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: did a lot of things that you know, I had 349 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: to learn from and and now looking back, especially the 350 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: social media space. Like I posted a lot of things 351 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: when I was young, and the older God was like, damn, 352 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: I wish I didn post that. Damn I always I 353 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: want to show with that. 354 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 5: But it also shows them that you are relatable to Yeah, you. 355 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. 356 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 5: You got stigmas all that type of stuff. 357 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: So you don't claim show. 358 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: Sure, don't claim it. Just say a I for real, 359 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: that's real. Now. 360 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: I know Kevin Hart your gout, Sir Kevin Hart came 361 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: up here and he said some things about Delaware state. 362 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: Culture. 363 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: When you don't let it go, come on, let it be. 364 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: Know why did you go since she didn't, I thought 365 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 4: I was trying to university. 366 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: You just a bunch of niggas. 367 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: Delaware. 368 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: No. 369 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: I know he's a huge Eagle fan. I know you 370 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: guys are close. Did you call him and you got 371 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: the job and be like, bro, you got to take 372 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: that back. Now. 373 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: See what's crazy is I didn't even know about that 374 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: viral moment until like maybe like a few hours ago. 375 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: It wasn't a viral just in Delaware was so so 376 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: when I heard when I heard about what he said, 377 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: I reached out to him, and you know, I tried 378 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: to get him to call in to apologize you because 379 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: you know, now your little hommy is the head coach 380 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: over there. But uh, you know he's dealing with all 381 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: the fires and I think he's shooting up a show 382 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: right now. But one thing I'll said about Kevin Man, 383 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: Kevin is a great dude and got a great relationship 384 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: with him. I know he just say thing, you know 385 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: how he is, Kevin just saying comedy, Kevin just joking. 386 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: He just be popping it. But for sure Kevin's gonna come. 387 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: He gonna come support. I mean, you know his roosts 388 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: for Philadelphia and being a huge Eagle fan. You know, 389 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: he was like, man, what I need to do? Y'all 390 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: got a building I can put my name on. I'm like, 391 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: we got a whole lot of stuff you can put 392 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: your name on. It's HBCU. We gonna need you. So 393 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to build a lot of relationship and 394 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: I got a lot of relationships with you know, like 395 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: Michael Rubin is a guy that I reached out to 396 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: and you know he congratulated me as well too. So 397 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: just looking forward to put on our resources man and 398 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: bring it together. Man, because I think we got a 399 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: big opportunity, man, to change the perspective on HBCUs Man, 400 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: and I'm I'm stoked. I'm ready to get it going 401 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: for sure. 402 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 4: You know, you know what when you become a when 403 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 4: you become a parent, you start looking at your parents different, 404 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: like you kind of just appreciate them more and respect 405 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: them more and understood what they went through. Now that 406 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 4: you're a coach, do you feel like that about your 407 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 4: old coaches because you probably. 408 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: Give them your I promise I did. And you know 409 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: it's crazy because when I was younger, my mom was like, 410 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: you bad, but your kids are gonna be that much 411 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: more bad than you are. So now obviously I got 412 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: two sons six and nine, and my nine year old boy, 413 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: he would give me a run for my money. So 414 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I feel what you're saying. But Craig, 415 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: you said that because I was in the team meeting 416 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: with the guys that met him for the first time 417 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: like two days ago, and I could just see like, man, like, 418 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: these dudes gonna give me a run for my money. 419 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: But it's a good thing because it's relatable, you know 420 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I literally was just in their seats. 421 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: I know what they want to do, and I'm not 422 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: trying to sit here and police them like you young man, 423 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: like you know right from wrong. If you want to 424 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: be an elite scholar athlete, it's certain things you have 425 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: to do. I mean, it got to look a certain way, 426 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: and it's the nature to Beninson. Now, it's a lot 427 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 2: of money involved in these colleges, like you able to 428 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: get paid for it, so I'm able to really walk 429 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: in there and say, look, if you want xyz, this 430 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: is what you gotta do. You know what I'm saying. 431 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: And if you don't do it like this, Delawaes State 432 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: might not be your fit. You know, it's unfortunate. But 433 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: I want guys that want to do this. I want 434 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: guys that want to play at the next level, Like 435 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: I know what I want to accomplish there. And like 436 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: I said, I don't got time to wait. We don't 437 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: got time to mess around, Like we're not rebuilding. We 438 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: coming there right now. We want to win this year. 439 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Have you thought about that, like what Chaulaman said, Like 440 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, these students might come in there, someone might 441 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: be feeling themselves a little bit talk too, a little crazy. 442 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: When you're in the league, you could talk back. I'm 443 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 3: sure you can talk to your coach. 444 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: You know, you might have to go move some furniture, 445 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: but now you're a coach, you can't move that furniture. 446 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: You can't move that furniture. But one thing I will say, 447 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: I think it's a respect It's a respect level. And 448 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: I always say, like, how do you like when you 449 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: first meet somebody, Like do you come in there and 450 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: just expect or like, say you you got a job 451 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: or you're a boss and you hire somebody, like, yeah, 452 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: you might have an authority, but you're not just gonna 453 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 2: talk to him any type of way. Now, you do 454 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: have certain bosses that do feel like, you know what, 455 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk to you any type of way, and 456 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 2: I don't care how you feel, but like, is he 457 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: really gonna run runt through a wall for you? So 458 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: for me, it's like my perspective, if I'm gonna come 459 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: here and ask you to do certain things, I'm a 460 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: mutual build that report with you before I just come 461 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 2: at you crazy and talk to you crazy, because it's 462 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: like I may expect you to run through a wall 463 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: for me, and you I don't know you, like I 464 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: don't trust you. You got to build that before you 465 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: just run through a wall. So I feel like building 466 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: that trust and letting them know, like you know what 467 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: I was once in your position. I know where you 468 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: want to go. Let me help you get there. Follow 469 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 2: my steps. I can't make I can't go play for you. 470 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: I did my thing on the field. I can't go 471 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: play for you. D Jack can't go on the field 472 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: and go catch a pass for you. But I can 473 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: tell you what it takes to get there, and if 474 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: it's on you to follow me. Like I told my players, 475 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: I love y'all, and I don't use that word lightly. 476 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: I said I love y'all, but it's on y'all to 477 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: make me not love y'all. You know what I'm saying. 478 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: So if I turn my back on you, it's because 479 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: you made me turn your back. It's not because I 480 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: didn't think. Because at the end of the day, I'm 481 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: coming in with love. I'm giving y'all love. I'm not 482 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 2: coming in here trying to be your daddy. Y'all got dads, 483 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: I got kids. But at the end of the day, 484 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: y'all gonna respect me. Because if y'all respect me, I'm 485 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: gonna get you where you I'm gonna get you to 486 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 2: where you want to go to. 487 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 5: And then a good thing to always go to, always 488 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 5: humble them, is y'all are in Delaware. 489 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 2: There ain't nothing out your head. We're gonna turn out. 490 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: You come to the game, bring it back. You know, 491 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: you gotta come support it. But there ain't nothing in Delaware. 492 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 2: They got nothing to do but staying in. But yeah, 493 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: for sure, you know it's crazy. So within the past 494 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: two three days I've been out there. I've been driving 495 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: going to get food because obviously dovers like everything is 496 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: on this one strip. So we're driving out. I seen 497 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: probably like ten of my my student athletes were driving 498 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: down in the car that like coach like, man, look 499 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: it's another player. There's another player. So it's like it's 500 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: real close and it's like it's family oriented. For sure. 501 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 4: You might need that at this point in your life, 502 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 4: cause you say, you do fifteen years your time you 503 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 4: was quiet, but you still have Cali's off for sure, 504 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: run all your family, your friends. You might need that 505 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 4: that quiet life. 506 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: I definitely do. And I think for me, man, it's 507 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 2: a great time because those who really know me, after 508 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: my fifteen year career is over, I retired in twenty 509 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: two two when I played for the Ravens. So right 510 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: when I tired, I got both my kids full time 511 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 2: and their mom wasn't around, So I think that really 512 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 2: helped me too, and that really like put some discipline in, 513 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: you know, because if I didn't have them, I would 514 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: have probably been traveling, spending money, blowing money. I would 515 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: have been everywhere. Because obviously people don't understand. So it's 516 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: not only fifteen years, it's the three years before that, 517 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: and maybe one or two years before that when I 518 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 2: was in high school, because I was a high profile 519 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: player coming out of high school. So you gotta think 520 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 2: all them years of non stop working out, training, this, that, 521 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: and the third. So it was twenty twenty two when 522 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 2: I retired where I was like, I could have really 523 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: just splurged and just went crazy. But I got my 524 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: kids full time, so that really helped me sit down, 525 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: and I was taking them to school, picking them up, 526 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: taking them to sports, and doing a lot of things. 527 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: So I think last year was like, all right, hold on, 528 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 2: I just did that for a whole year. I said, 529 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: now it's time. I can't beat the baby daddy and 530 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: the baby mama. I said, I got to go coach. 531 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: Went to go coach with my older brother, Uh, Coach 532 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: Clark who's in the building. And I just give a 533 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: huge shout out to Coach Clark. He's a huge inspiration 534 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: on my life and not only to my life, ment 535 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: to a lot of a lot of young men. He 536 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: put a lot of young guys into college active college 537 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: players right now that the ballers. Man, I'm excited for 538 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: his journey because this was a dream come true for 539 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: him to get this spot in his position. 540 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: And he's coming with you. 541 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: He come. I made him my assistant head coach, man 542 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: because just for everything he meant to me and what 543 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: he did, I missed the dream come true. Man, He's 544 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: leaving his family, he's leaving his daughters, he left his 545 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: school that we just built some crazy that it's never 546 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: been happening one hundred years. And he coming. Man. So man, 547 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 2: I just want to tell. 548 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 3: You I appreciate you. 549 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: What about someone like you know, like I said, you know, 550 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: even with the coaching thing that Woodrow was in high school, 551 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: there's things that people don't amplify. 552 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 3: I didn't know that you had. 553 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 4: Custody in kids because you go the way around, right 554 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 4: the daddy wasn't around. Why wasn't the mother around? 555 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: So some personal things went down. So, you know, we 556 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: was we were trying to work out our situation, and 557 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: throughout our situation, I was actually I was playing for 558 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams in twenty twenty one, and uh, 559 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 2: throughout that period of time, you know, we was back 560 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: and forth on and off for about six or seven years, 561 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: and it just came a point of time where we 562 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: couldn't really figure it out. She left and you know, 563 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: start dealing with some individual and the principles didn't the line, 564 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. The guy she was dealing 565 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: with didn't aligne to what I was preaching and doing 566 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: over here, and we kind of just didn't see eye 567 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: to eye. We didn't talk, we lost communication. And for me, 568 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 2: like I'm a very respectful man, and I understand when 569 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 2: you're in a partnership and you have kids with somebody, 570 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: you have to ligne and the things on the line, 571 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: like I'm not gonna have my kids be around somebody 572 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: that I can't talk to them, or I can't know 573 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: where their location is, or I'm not going for that 574 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: like my dad did. In't start all principles in me 575 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: and I would never turn my back on my kids. 576 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: So I'm very influential on my kids' life. And uh yeah. 577 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: So it just went and we didn't talk, and I 578 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: was like, I'm grabbed my kids and it was nothing, 579 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: you know, nothing too personal. But at the end of 580 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: the day, I just had to grab my kids, man, 581 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: And for me, that was like I could not be 582 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 2: one of them. Dass, it's just not around. Man. Then 583 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: you got two boys and I love them death. 584 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: It wasn't like a court situation. 585 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 5: No. 586 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: I mean, it almost got to some court stuff, but 587 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: like we really figured it out before the end and 588 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: so it didn't really have to get messy because you know, 589 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 2: of course it's public. You try like hi, you try 590 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 2: to close case and all that, and it just kind 591 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: of got to to atter. So I was like, you 592 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: know what, let me just you know, get them, and 593 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: she granted them to me and stuff, and then we 594 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: just kind of did like that. But it's it's good 595 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: now because now that I'm coaching, you know, she ain't 596 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: dealing with the dude no more, and like me and 597 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 2: her is cool now. So I'm like, all right, cool, 598 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna help me Out'm about to get this full 599 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: time coaching job. The kids can come back with you 600 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: and you know where. Everything's good. So them two years 601 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: it was tricky though, but we're good now. 602 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 5: Now you're from la is your family okay, we got there. 603 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's crazy. So I'm supposed to be going 604 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: back Saturday. I'm gonna actually stay in town for the 605 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: Eagle game on Sunday, but my mom's here. She came 606 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 2: in town for it. But yeah, like my family, it's 607 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 2: kind of more on the outskirts, but a lot of 608 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 2: people in la man, it's you know, it's crazy. Man. 609 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 2: I just want to pray for my city, man, and 610 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: you know, hopefully everything gets you know, handles. 611 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: I just got to ask, you know, before you leave. 612 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: You know, the Eagles and Giants rivalry was crazy. I've 613 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: been to one game in Philly and I told myself 614 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: I'll never go back. 615 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: Just the fans in Philly is differently, It's crazy. I 616 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 3: seen nothing like that. I had a baby with me 617 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: and they was still we don't care. I'm like Jesus, 618 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 3: but what did you think about the Giants? 619 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: Uh lettings at Congo? 620 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: Let me seengo. 621 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, that was the stupidest thing you 622 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 2: could have ever did. And what's crazy? I think like 623 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: one of the so it was like a front office 624 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: guy who was actually on the Eagles. He worked for 625 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: the Eagles and then like he went to New York 626 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: and he was in the room because I remember when 627 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: they was making the decision and I seen him, like, man, 628 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 2: he used to work for Philly. It's crazy to come 629 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: sitting there listening to what they're talking about that like, oh, yeah, 630 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: you know he yead okay year, but you know we 631 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: could we could probably just let him go, like we're 632 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: not gonna play him. And I'm just listening to the 633 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: conversation and to see a year, not even a year later, 634 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: he's killing killing at a high level, and I think, 635 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes it's just like you need that fresh start, 636 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: you need that energy because you know, when you're at 637 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: a team. I hope none of y'all giants fans, but 638 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: when you're I am. 639 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: A giant, can we put a uh? I got turned 640 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: into this. 641 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: Way, but talking about a cowboy friend, say at even bad, 642 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: But that's what I said. 643 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: Cow girl, I'm a cowboy killer. 644 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 2: I know about it. 645 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 4: My daddy was a cowboy fan. He's a cowboy fan. 646 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 4: I don't you know, I'm grandfather. Then every year to 647 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 4: say going the Super Bowl. 648 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: Every that's what they say. My boy, I got a 649 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: best friend. He was a diehard cowgirl fan, my bwgirl fan. 650 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: And every year this o this our here, this our yere. 651 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: Then midway through the season, maybe I'm like, bro, y'all 652 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 2: need to just get rid of Jerry Jones. Man, once 653 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 2: you'll get your get rid of him and Jones. 654 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 3: The other day I saw him. 655 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: Another day, I saw him the same Boughts and I 656 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 4: told him, I said, man, we gotta get this ship together, 657 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 4: and he hit me with some rich white man ship like. 658 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we digged and we were supposed. 659 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 4: To zag, but. 660 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah you good. Lamar Jackson went crazy this year. 661 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: What you'all predicted on the Super Bowl? I actually think 662 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: Baltimore Baltimore. 663 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 3: I don't know why I got a feeling. 664 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 4: About Baltimore stuff, Baltimore, Philly, the. 665 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 3: Chiefs, I think. I think I think Eagle's gonna get well. 666 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: Actually, Baltimore Baltimore. I want to say Baltimore and Philly, 667 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 4: but I think Baltimore in the Lions. 668 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 2: I like it. I like that that could be a 669 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: potentials look good. 670 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 4: But I wanted to say to you know, a lot 671 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 4: of these coaches are leaving, especially like old the white coaches, 672 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 4: because they say they can't handle these kids and these 673 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: n I L deals. And that's why I think it's 674 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 4: good for guys like you, because you made damn one 675 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 4: hundred million in the league, and I think the one 676 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 4: thing that they're missing. Yeah, they might be making some 677 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 4: money now, but there's a whole bigger, bigger, bigger bag 678 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: to get later. And I think only guys that have 679 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 4: done it like yourself can relate. 680 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 2: To them kids like that. I mean, you support me, right, yeah, 681 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: absolutely supporting d jack Man love HBC. 682 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, he asked for help me. 683 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: But they said I got y'all for real. I'm locking 684 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: with y'all whatever y'all want to put him my Hamp. 685 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: I hate you, you know, I like this. 686 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: I thought it was how Hamp. 687 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: And we don't sclude Eddie George enough either. They always 688 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 4: talked about Mike and Eddie. 689 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 2: George does this thing over there too. Man. 690 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: Now, we definitely come out in support, definitely. 691 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 4: And I saw what Dean said about you. He just 692 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 4: like everybody needs to wrap their arms around your stuff. 693 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: Have you always been in your corner like that. 694 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: Dion has always been a big influencial for me, man. 695 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: I think going back to when I was in high school, Man, 696 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: he used to reach out to me and I had 697 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: an opportunity to sit with him a few times on 698 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: official with him a few times, just really pick his brain. Man. 699 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: I think he's he's a special dude. Man. Him and 700 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: him and Jerry Rice are like my two mentors. So 701 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: to have two guys like that in my corner man 702 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: every step of the way, even like while I was playing, 703 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: even before I got to the league. So I mean 704 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 2: that ain't that ain't just a post. He's just posting 705 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: like we really locked in and we got a real 706 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: great relationship and he's helping out a lot like my think. 707 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: I think, you know, in our culture, we don't give 708 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: a flowers to people that really like support us and 709 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: help us out. I definitely want to give Coach promised 710 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: flowers because he's for the culture. He is the culture. 711 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: I think he's doing some great things and a lot 712 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: of people still hating on him, like at a big level, Man, 713 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: what his sons is doing, like that should dream come 714 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: true man for any man. And I know they ball 715 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: and he's doing I don't care. Man, if you got 716 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 2: an opportunity to coach your kids and see him at 717 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: the highest level and to see like that, I hope 718 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: he become the first pick. You know what, Oh no, 719 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: y'all can't get him. Well, Tennessee Titans might be able 720 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: to do it. Patriots don't. 721 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: They got the first, the Tennessee Titans first. First, the 722 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: Titans and the Patriots. 723 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: Then they need to make it the package deal. Man. 724 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: Let the daddy and the coach man go in. They 725 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: probably come back and get shy later on. Maybe get 726 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: Travis at the two. You never know that. 727 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: Brime said some fliction on Willow and Gilly said, I 728 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: picked it up. 729 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: He was like he on something. 730 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: He was like, I would coach in the NFL if 731 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 4: I could coach my to. 732 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, see what you know a little something that 733 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: the only way he ain't going back to Colorado is 734 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: something like that happening. I know them, man, He's a yeah, 735 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: he liked that. It might we might see that. It 736 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: might be crazy. 737 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: I would love for the Giants to pick him up. 738 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: Giants glory, y'all want I mean a non meaningful game, 739 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: like why would y'all. That was stupid as hell. 740 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: Asked, do y'all ever, I mean in the NFL, do 741 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: y'all ever, just say like, there's no sense of winning 742 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: this game. 743 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: Let's not win this game. Does that conversation happen? 744 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: I can't account for that now higher up potentially, yeah, 745 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: because they want them number one picks. I believe that happens. 746 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: But as a player, you go out there playing around, 747 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna get hurt and one injury with in your career, 748 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: So it's not really worth going out there trying to 749 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: bs and mess around in terror a cl or be 750 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: knocked out on that. You gotta think them growing in 751 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: on that field. They taking care of their families and 752 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: they want their bonuses. So it's a lot of money 753 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: riding on them games. So I never partected none that. 754 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: I can't speak for nobody else, but I ain't. Ever 755 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: they should have just pulled some of the players. 756 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: Listen in, let's pull this one out. 757 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: Nothing for him to win that game, nothing like, come on, 758 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: that was the first home win. You feel me like, 759 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: come on, what are we doing? 760 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: That's the only game I ain't going I'm like, I'm 761 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: not going to We're gonna lose this one. 762 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: I'm sitting the house like, what the is going on? 763 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: That's crazy? Man. 764 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: Man, Well, we appreciate you for joining us. Absolutely. 765 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 4: Congratulations again, man, thank you. Absolutely not gonna be the situation, right, 766 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 4: You're not gonna they ain't gonna end U quitting before. 767 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: Okay, nothing I do our quitting life. Man, We're gonna 768 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: be there to support everything all going. I just want 769 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: to tell y'all to man, y'all been killing it with y'all. 770 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: Show man. Been watching y'all for a long time. Uh, 771 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: rest in peace. Nipsey Hustle, that's my brother, that ship 772 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: with him. But I've been watching y'all. Sh y'all do 773 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: y'all thing. Man, y'all keep going, man, take it off. Man. 774 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's to Sean Jackson, the new head 775 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: of the coach, the new head coach for Delaware State Hornets, 776 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: and it's the Breakfast Club. 777 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning. 778 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club.