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Speaker 2: These are the things that we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't pay to be the back.

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Speaker 3: I want to what I've never said you was caping.

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Speaker 3: what I mean because because we do have a tendensee.

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Speaker 3: We love the awards, we love the applause, we love

439
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Speaker 3: the BT Awards, we love the Greell Awards, we love

440
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Speaker 3: ah wow yeah said yes, black Girl's rock, Black Girls rock.

441
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we need to name that name that girl

442
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Speaker 3: you did that, and then after that it goes away.

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Speaker 3: And so what what our debate was that day was,

444
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Speaker 3: we're not at a place now where we can do

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Speaker 3: two things at once because they're not doing the second thing.

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Speaker 3: So let's take out the first thing and let's go

447
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Speaker 3: straight to the second thing, because that's what the Latino

448
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Speaker 3: community is doing. They're not asking to be named for

449
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Speaker 3: a damn thing. They're going straight to we are fifty

450
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Speaker 3: to fifty bottom line. You're gonna do this, this, this, this, this,

451
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Speaker 3: and nobody challenges them, just like that clip I put

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Speaker 3: on my Instagram for those who want to see that

453
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Speaker 3: last week on Morning Joe, you're gonna have to come

454
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Speaker 3: to us with this, this, this, this, this bottom line.

455
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Speaker 3: Not nobody at that table set there and challenge them

456
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Speaker 3: the way they set there, and challenge Charlemagne on the view.

457
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Speaker 3: Nobody and our sharp was at the table, Morning Joe.

458
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Speaker 3: And if you know how hard they go on Trump,

459
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Speaker 3: nobody's the table. They set their nodding their heads. That's right,

460
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Speaker 3: that's right, that's right. They said, we don't want to

461
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Speaker 3: hear nothing but about jobs, period, period. Nobody challenged them.

462
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Speaker 3: They wasn't gonna be named. They didn't care about Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: We delivered the vat.

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Speaker 3: We the ones that's this, we're the ones that that

465
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Speaker 3: we the best. What it is that they make you

466
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Speaker 3: show and tell you're gonna either do are you not?

467
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Speaker 3: That's it and that's what I'm saying. That's why I'm

468
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Speaker 3: saying the naming part is over. We already know where

469
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Speaker 3: the backbone, but we're getting how being the backbone. But

470
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Speaker 3: that shit ain't adding up on the back end, and

471
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Speaker 3: that that's just not a party.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not adding up. It's just adding up to

473
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Speaker 2: telling me how much you love me. But still it's

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Speaker 2: still two o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 3: You still don't take me nowhere on the weekend, You

476
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Speaker 3: still don't say my name. I still ain't met your family,

477
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Speaker 3: You still having uh where's.

478
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Speaker 2: The ring at Holmie?

479
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Speaker 3: Like what what are we doing here? I mean, this

480
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Speaker 3: is exactly in relationship again. We can really break this

481
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Speaker 3: shit all the way down. We can talk about single households,

482
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Speaker 3: We can talk about black women saying like all this

483
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Speaker 3: shit go across the board, y'all, this type of you know.

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Speaker 1: It's all right, Yeah, this is exactly what it is.

485
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Speaker 3: Exactly what it is. An exploitation, that's it, and I'm

486
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Speaker 3: just fucking over it. So that's just where I met

487
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Speaker 3: with it. So they can play nice with it. I

488
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Speaker 3: see all the rest of them. You know, we just

489
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Speaker 3: keep asking bart and hand and that's that's fine. They

490
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Speaker 3: got relationships in it, so they got to keep asking

491
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Speaker 3: a nice way. But I'm gonna just keep on telling

492
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Speaker 3: like it is. And I don't give down who don't

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Speaker 3: say it because Trump, No, we need to say it.

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Speaker 3: It needs to be named, that that part need to

495
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Speaker 3: be named. That you're leaving us in the wet spot,

496
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden. But where's the confusion because remember when he

497
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Speaker 3: got an office member, he told al sharp than.

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Speaker 2: Them, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Remember in that meeting, he told, yeah, y'all better go

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Speaker 3: follow the Latino community.

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Speaker 2: He told them. After we did all that name and

502
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Speaker 2: all that name and about our black people saved him

503
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Speaker 2: in South Carolina, they still told you go over there

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Speaker 2: and get behind the Latino community. Because that's what's up.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: But I do know your appoint Michelle. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 3: I'm just oh, that strategy just ain't working no more.

508
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Speaker 3: And we can see it in real time with Mosby.

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Speaker 3: So Jay's not hopeful on it. I'm deathing my hope

510
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Speaker 3: on it, but I am hopeful because I just would

511
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Speaker 3: like to see her.

512
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Speaker 2: I want her to get it.

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Speaker 3: So I guess I gotta be some type of hope.

514
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Speaker 3: But she needs to get This woman's whole career is

515
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: literally being destroyed for fighting for justice. Meanwhile, people worried

516
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Speaker 3: about other people's career, whore involved in domestic and sexual

517
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Speaker 3: violence and all of that. But meanwhile this woman's career

518
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Speaker 3: who for standing up for justice literally is destroyed and

519
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Speaker 3: that's a damn shame. So with that saying, let's go

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Speaker 3: on to George Floyd memorials. I know Jay wants to

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Speaker 3: take us up, take us through that.

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Speaker 2: What you got on that, Jay?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely so yes. This Memorial weekend marks the fourth anniversary

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Speaker 4: of George Floyd's twenty twenty Unturnly death organizes you the

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Speaker 4: Deay of Remember. It is an opportunity for reflection, healing,

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Speaker 4: and community building, intending to hold it annually in George

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Speaker 4: Floyd's honor. The death of George Floyd occurred on Memorial Day,

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Speaker 4: as I stated before, and it sparked widespread protests and

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Speaker 4: calls for systemic change regarding racial injustice and police brutality.

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Speaker 1: I was one of the ones out there.

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Speaker 4: I cover a lot of these protests and demonstrations from

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Speaker 4: the White House to everywhere in DC.

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Speaker 1: And I also, you know, sustained a level of.

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Speaker 4: PTSD from all of the force that was met by protesters,

535
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Speaker 4: but they went back. Organization, which is a nonprofit, organized

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Speaker 4: the very first annual Day of Remembrance for George Floyd.

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Speaker 4: The day started this year with an interfaith prayer service

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Speaker 4: at Minneapolis, Minnesota City Hall, followed by a brunch featuring

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Speaker 4: speakers such as Attorney General Keith Ellison, former Minneapolis Police

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Speaker 4: Chief Madeira Aron Dondo, and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey. There

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Speaker 4: were many people in attendance. They also this event also

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Speaker 4: included a teen summit that was held. It's a part

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Speaker 4: of the day's events allowing young people from across the

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Speaker 4: Midwest to discuss the past, present and future regarding racial

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Speaker 4: justice in America. And I also wanted to note that

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Speaker 4: George Floyd's nephew, Brandon Williams, attended the event, expressing gratitude

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Speaker 4: for the continued commitment to change, to change and just

548
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Speaker 4: general transformation in America. Also this weekend Tedz, Michelle Yes,

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Speaker 4: shout out to Brandon absolutely also this weekend, Ladies. Many

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Speaker 4: protesters observing George Floyd's memorial events in New York City

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Speaker 4: were met with police violence, surprise, surprise, and mass arrests

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Speaker 4: at the hands of the NYPD. Interestingly, this weekend another

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Speaker 4: report came out speaking of police violence again. It's an

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Speaker 4: interesting report that came out that stated that over the

555
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Speaker 4: past four years since the mass protests following George Floyd's killing,

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Speaker 4: US cities have settled over one hundred and thirty lawsuits

557
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Speaker 4: related to police misconduct during those protests. So these settlements

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Speaker 4: amount to nearly one hundred and fifty million dollars and

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Speaker 4: involved various parties and voting protesters, journalists, legal observers, and

560
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Speaker 4: just innocent bystanders that were brutalized across the country. Is

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Speaker 4: just so if you want some numbers about these payouts,

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Speaker 4: payouts of seven million and thirteen millions to hundreds of

563
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Speaker 4: people subjected to indiscriminate arrest and violence in various New

564
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Speaker 4: York City protests were paid out. A payout of nine

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Speaker 4: pointy two five million dollars to protest protesters trapped on

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Speaker 4: a highway and tear gas in Philadelphia and Denver. A

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Speaker 4: federal jury awarded fourteen million dollars to twelve people shot

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Speaker 4: with projectiles at close range by police. I literally saw

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Speaker 4: a friend of mine shot in the head with the

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Speaker 4: rubber bullet down by the White House.

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Speaker 1: That literally happened. So I can you imagine, Well.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, I just want to put a pandem when

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Speaker 2: you finish your statement.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and finally, according to the report, in Seattle, forty

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Speaker 4: eight protesters, including a woman who went into cardiac arrest

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Speaker 4: after being hit with a blast ball by police. She

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Speaker 4: won a ten million dollar settlement. So you know, we

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Speaker 4: uphold George Floyd's family, you know, we keep saying his

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Speaker 4: name and really hold police violence and those engaging in

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Speaker 4: violence against civilians.

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Speaker 1: We have to hold them accountable.

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Speaker 4: But I'm glad to see that people are starting to

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Speaker 4: win these lawsuits.

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Speaker 3: Well people have been okay, And that's exactly what my

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Speaker 3: pen what I want to depend on. Like I said

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Speaker 3: in the documentary, sibil so shut out to Brandon, who

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Speaker 3: I know personally. So for those who don't know, just

588
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Speaker 3: started following O senior advisor for the George Floyd family.

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Speaker 3: When all of this happened, they became family, and actual

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Speaker 3: real family. Mind so shut out to Serena and Terror

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Speaker 3: and Brandon and an entire family who we.

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Speaker 2: Still talk on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 3: People been winning these lawsuit and that's the see, that's

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Speaker 3: the part that I talked about in the documentary sybol

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Speaker 3: and Netflix. I talked about how over one hundred cities

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Speaker 3: have changed some level of police reform. When you hear

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Speaker 3: people saying lawsuits don't mean nothing, lawsuits don't mean nothing.

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Speaker 3: That's why we did the documentary literally called civil people

599
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Speaker 3: just literally don't know what the hell to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Michelle. That's just the bottom line.

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Speaker 3: When people say it doesn't matter when you sue, oh,

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Speaker 3: actually it does when you do the numbers and look

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Speaker 3: at what Jay just talked about, or even when you

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Speaker 3: talk about Minneapolis, I believe they paid out a loan

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Speaker 3: over one hundred million in Minneapolis alone as a result

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Speaker 3: of the protest. It damned well it did break the city.

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Speaker 3: So people saying, oh, wow, I broke the city, right,

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Speaker 3: That's why.

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Speaker 5: This is because those funds are those settlements are paid

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Speaker 5: out of tax dollars.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: But I heard that.

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Speaker 3: I know people don't like that, but the reality of

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Speaker 3: it is it makes you make a change because taxpayers

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Speaker 3: start saying, I'm not interested in keep paying out these funds.

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Speaker 3: So there's two debates that go on. People say, well,

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Speaker 3: it's just coming out this is what the anti side

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Speaker 3: that claim they love black people and say they love

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Speaker 3: black people, but somehow got a problem with black people sewing.

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Speaker 3: They say, well, it's just coming out of taxpayers. So

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Speaker 3: what's the difference. It ain't coming from the police. Well,

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Speaker 3: because they have something all qualified immunity that does not

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Speaker 3: allow the police to be held accountable personally. Second thing

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Speaker 3: to that is police don't have no twenty seven million

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Speaker 3: to give, no family.

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Speaker 2: So let's first get that straight. So even when the.

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Speaker 3: Police be sued, I believe that it still should be

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Speaker 3: some from the city, some from the police department, some

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Speaker 3: from the actual officer, but some from the city. The

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Speaker 3: reason why that's important is because when it comes from

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Speaker 3: the city and now taxpayers have to pay for their

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Speaker 3: fucked up policing, guess what then happens. Now they're commissioner

633
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Speaker 3: start writing different policies because now the taxpayers are saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: we're not gonna keep paying for y'all to get stuff

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Speaker 3: get it wrong.

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Speaker 2: We need y'all to get right. Now there is a

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Speaker 2: public involvement.

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Speaker 3: If only, Jade, if we're just let's just use a

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Speaker 3: basic example and your basic car insurance. If you get

640
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Speaker 3: in a car wreck and you have to pay that,

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Speaker 3: what difference do it make to me? Jay, that came

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Speaker 3: at your policy. It don't affect me. Your rate goes up,

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Speaker 3: it don't affect me. But if I have to chip

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Speaker 3: in and pay, or just think about it, like if

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Speaker 3: I got a kid, Jada, I gotta pay for it now.

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Speaker 3: Now my insurance go up. Now it's a different conversation, Jada.

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Speaker 3: It ain't just about you anymore. Now it's about me

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Speaker 3: because now I'm having to pay additional premium because you

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Speaker 3: decided to speed, you decided to get in a car wreck. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm concerned about your safety, but now that we know

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Speaker 3: that you're safe, let's talk about how now this is

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Speaker 3: gonna cost me because of an action that you did.

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Speaker 3: So when the city is involved, when the city has

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Speaker 3: to pay out money, this is how.

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Speaker 2: We actually get the reform.

656
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Speaker 3: But people don't know that because they all they do

657
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Speaker 3: is talk on social media. They don't know what the

658
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Speaker 3: hell they're talking about, and they have to find somebody

659
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Speaker 3: to be mad about. So the reality it is one

660
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Speaker 3: Attorning Crumb has sued more than anybody else in this country,

661
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Speaker 3: anybody else period, hands down. It has resulted in various payouts.

662
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Speaker 3: So when you say, well, I'm glad they're getting paid, No,

663
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Speaker 3: they've been getting paid. It's just not you just don't

664
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Speaker 3: hear about it. All you hear is the negative about well,

665
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Speaker 3: why did Sudden such get this? And why do such

666
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Speaker 3: and such you get that? And why do sudden and

667
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Speaker 3: Johnny Carpon would have got more? Well, actually, no, you

668
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Speaker 3: only got about six million on his symbol, on his

669
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Speaker 3: civil rights. And yes he sued the police as well

670
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Speaker 3: after he stopped being the police, because by the way,

671
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Speaker 3: he was a part of the District Attorney's office. For

672
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Speaker 3: those of y'all to keep on talking who loved comparing

673
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Speaker 3: Johnny Cochran, shout up to Donny Cochrane, who who gave

674
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Speaker 3: Crump his blessing and gave him the game on how

675
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Speaker 3: to win in the court of public opinion. But for

676
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Speaker 3: those of y'all to love comparing the two, because he

677
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: mentioned reparations a few times. For those of y'all to

678
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Speaker 3: love comparing the two. Johnny Cochran actually worked for the

679
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Speaker 3: white folks. He worked for the people because he worked

680
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Speaker 3: for the disc attorney's office. So we just want to

681
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Speaker 3: put that on. Let's just make sure that's out there.

682
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Speaker 3: He also sued for police bautality as well, got a

683
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Speaker 3: six million dollar lawsuit from to this day has had

684
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Speaker 3: the highest payout for a black woman, twelve million for

685
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Speaker 3: Breonna Taylor, in twenty millions for the George Floyd family.

686
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Speaker 3: And yes, that does make a difference. It makes an

687
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Speaker 3: absolute difference because that is why Minneapolis, entire police department

688
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: and entire city government has completely changed because of that payout.

689
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Speaker 2: So it makes a difference. We just don't hear about it, Jay,

690
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Speaker 2: They only hear he only about the But more have

691
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Speaker 2: been paid than in history, you know, in history. But

692
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Speaker 2: since Trayvon Martin, since civil litigation has become a thing

693
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Speaker 2: in the public eye, absolutely billions of dollars have been

694
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Speaker 2: paid out. And not just to No Crumpy.

695
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Speaker 3: A lot of these attorneys that are able to backdoor

696
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Speaker 3: and close deals, they just don't bring it to the public.

697
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Speaker 1: Interesting.

698
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this article that I write, this report and from

699
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Speaker 4: the Guardian equote your sentiments and just the facts, right,

700
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Speaker 4: the facts that you've been you've been preaching, you've been

701
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 4: telling people. It says that these losses have led to

702
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Speaker 4: significant police reforms across police departments, including limitations on the

703
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Speaker 4: use of quote unquote less lethal weapons such as rubber bullets,

704
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Speaker 4: flash bank, hand grenades, tear gas, et cetera, et cetera.

705
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Speaker 3: O knock all of that, Like we put that in

706
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Speaker 3: the policy, like it's a part of the settlement.

707
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Speaker 2: That's why people know we be talking about But go ahead.

708
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And also I learned with the article said that

709
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Speaker 4: the outcomes of these lawsuits definitely challenged the narrative that

710
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Speaker 4: protesters were violent and highlight the police's role in breaking

711
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Speaker 4: laws and violating the rights of demonstrators. And the report

712
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Speaker 4: examines the outcome of lawsuits that were out against police

713
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Speaker 4: actions in forty cities and twenty five states, along with

714
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Speaker 4: many penning cases that are not even included in the

715
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Speaker 4: report in settlements and a few jury verdicts from the

716
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Speaker 4: trials counter the narrative pushed by the Trump administration, which basically,

717
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Speaker 4: you know, I remember he was labeling these demonstrations as riots,

718
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Speaker 4: and he was using words to describe protesters like terrorists.

719
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Speaker 4: So contrary to this narrative, all of this data that

720
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Speaker 4: has come out was showing that a lot.

721
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Speaker 1: Of the police officers were actually the.

722
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Speaker 4: Ones escalating and using a violence at these demonstrations.

723
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Speaker 3: Now I'm curious on and I'm looking it up in

724
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Speaker 3: real time. You mentioned what was going on in New York,

725
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Speaker 3: and I'm looking at articles about just kind of summarizing,

726
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Speaker 3: you know, what happened in New York then and now.

727
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Speaker 2: But you mentioned you said there were some issues this weekend.

728
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this week at Fox News, Like there's one video.

729
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Speaker 4: There was no article written about it, but there was

730
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Speaker 4: a video that went viral on social media. Fox News

731
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Speaker 4: actually picked it up of several demonstrations over there being

732
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Speaker 4: arrested by the Well.

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering, as Mayor Adams, I'm asking this, has Mayor

734
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Speaker 3: Adams made a statement on this or because I'm googling. No, man, Michelle,

735
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Speaker 3: can you check your phone let me take a look,

736
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Speaker 3: because I'm just curious.

737
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Speaker 4: The great point, because you know, he's so worried about

738
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Speaker 4: provoking the key to the city for Diddy, which I mean, hey,

739
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Speaker 4: I kind of do support that and all, honestly, but

740
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Speaker 4: if you have protesters out there, you know, commemorating George

741
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Speaker 4: Floyd and being violently arrested by NYPD, and you're saying

742
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Speaker 4: nothing about it.

743
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Speaker 1: That continues to be a problem. But we also know

744
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Speaker 1: that Mayor Eric Adams, who used.

745
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Speaker 4: To be the borough president of Brooklyn when I lived there,

746
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Speaker 4: I actually put his face on a milk carton and

747
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Speaker 4: was protesting in front of a nil slam. But that's

748
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Speaker 4: another conversation to shut that business down after they attacked

749
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Speaker 4: black women. He was missing in action then, and you know,

750
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Speaker 4: we do know that he was an ex police officer, So.

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Speaker 2: I would gonna call my sign.

752
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Speaker 3: After this podcast ended, asked like, what has he said,

753
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Speaker 3: because you know he was on drink Champ saying.

754
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Speaker 2: Brother brother, brother, brother, brother, you know, and he.

755
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Speaker 1: When I did not see that.

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Speaker 5: Pretty shortly after the breakfast club interviews, they even said

757
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Speaker 5: I think I told you, because they even said at

758
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Speaker 5: the beginning of it, how he got up, how you

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Speaker 5: got an ambushed on.

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Speaker 2: The breakfast club?

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Speaker 3: Interesting, well, go back and by So I'm just curious

762
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Speaker 3: to see if he said I'm just creed, because you know,

763
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Speaker 3: they've been on him about the protests on the Palestine issue,

764
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Speaker 3: and so I know he spoke on that, so I'm

765
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Speaker 3: just curious.

766
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Speaker 2: But I look into that.

767
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Speaker 3: That'll give me something to ask my sign about. You know,

768
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Speaker 3: where's the mayor at on what happened with George Floyd.

769
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Speaker 3: So and again just had to sign note before we

770
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Speaker 3: go to the other last story of the day. Uh,

771
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Speaker 3: even with Corporate America, maybe maybe I'll just do a

772
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Speaker 3: whole show on that, just like where we are with

773
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Speaker 3: this since George Floyd, because again, remember they they promised

774
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Speaker 3: to pay billions and bills of dollars and we ain't

775
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Speaker 3: seen none of that either. Once again asking me to

776
00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: check the phone some messages. Yeah, yeah, we don't have nothing.

777
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: Biden ain't called, the corporations, ain't called Mayor Adams ain't call.

778
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Speaker 3: So either something wrong with Michelle's phone or they don't

779
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Speaker 3: have the number or what. So I guess when you

780
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Speaker 3: look into that.

781
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Speaker 5: So now I'm wrong with my phone. So you know,

782
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 5: folks need to put in some calls.

783
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Speaker 2: How about that?

784
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Speaker 1: As mister status updads.

785
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Speaker 4: So, I mean, can we talk just for a second

786
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Speaker 4: about the George Floyd Policing Act. I mean that's really serious.

787
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Speaker 4: That was downplayed by a lot of folks in the

788
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Speaker 4: so called conscious community. Uh, but we definitely need these

789
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Speaker 4: policies and we needed them yesterday.

790
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no update back to you, Chuck, that's about all that. Like,

791
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Speaker 2: it's no update.

792
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Speaker 3: It's no update because ain't nobody doing nothing about it

793
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 3: like we asked for. We went to congressional Uh, it

794
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Speaker 3: passed on the House. It got stopped remember, Uh, it

795
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: got stopped in the Senate with Tim Scott who said

796
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Speaker 3: it ain't happening. And that's that. That's where we are

797
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 3: with it and nothing else. No, no, no further updates, Chuck.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

799
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Speaker 2: But so, but again, a lot of.

800
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Speaker 3: Those policies, when you take them out one by one,

801
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: the stop like the no knock warrant and you know,

802
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: being able to pass that with Breonna Taylor's law or

803
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: qualified immunity did pass in New York, but then they

804
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: took it back.

805
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Speaker 2: It did pass in Colorado.

806
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Speaker 3: So there's pieces of that policy that have made it

807
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 3: on the state and local level. But again that's up

808
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: and that's up to the state and local level to

809
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: be pushing these types of policies. And so we always

810
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: want to ask the national to do it, but what

811
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: is the state doing? And if we don't know what

812
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: the hell of state is doing and we're not paying

813
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Speaker 3: attention to who the state attorneys are.

814
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Speaker 2: Like I literally did that.

815
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Speaker 3: Campaign and I was talking to a wall about guys,

816
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Speaker 3: we should be talking about these thirty state attorney positions

817
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: that are available, and I feel like I was talking

818
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: to a wall. And so now we're seeing all that

819
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: trickle down. We're seeing when judges got replaced. Trump put

820
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Speaker 3: in a gang a district attorney, a gang of district judges.

821
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Speaker 3: People don't pay attention to that type of stuff. They

822
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: swept the country with that. So when you got your

823
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Speaker 3: judge on not just the court guys, I'm talking it

824
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Speaker 3: on the district level, when you got district judges, concerted

825
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: district judges, you're losing before you even go in. And

826
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Speaker 3: this is the stuff you can they're not paying attention to.

827
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Speaker 3: They're just not paying attention. We're just in some serious trouble.

828
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Speaker 3: So to answer question, there hasn't been no update on

829
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: the national level. But hey, we'll just see if people

830
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 3: continue to push it on the loco. I'm going to

831
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Speaker 3: keep demanding it. I'm gonna keep asking for people say

832
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: what's the point, because that's the point of activism. You

833
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: just continue to keep asking, even if you're talking to

834
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Speaker 3: a walk so well, you.

835
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Speaker 5: Keep asking at the national level. And then you need

836
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 5: to be going to your local city council, your stay

837
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Speaker 5: elected officials to see what their policies are around these issues.

838
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Speaker 5: There have been pushes in different states, and Missouri in particular,

839
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Speaker 5: for the local police departments to be governed at the

840
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 5: state level by state legislators. You know, those are different

841
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 5: problems that you can literally go to your state legislator

842
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 5: who is walking around in your grocery store, your neighborhood

843
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 5: and ask them what they're doing about this, or mobilize

844
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Speaker 5: and organized to push legislators who are in your neighborhood

845
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: backyard to make these type of changes. So we got

846
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: to push the line wherever we can, wherever we are

847
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Speaker 5: to see the changes.

848
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Speaker 3: That we were and even on the mayor level, like

849
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Speaker 3: for example, Houston mayor Sylvester Turner, he pushed for the

850
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Speaker 3: banned choke holds. A lot of people jumped on the

851
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: band choke holds on the local level when that happened.

852
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: He also set up a database that would hold you know,

853
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: people can do issue complaints and hold a police accountable.

854
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: He set that up in Houston. But then he But

855
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: then when Congresswoman Sheila Jackson ran to be mayor to

856
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Speaker 3: continue that and she talked about, you know how the

857
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Speaker 3: George for justin policing at she sponsored that bill j

858
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Speaker 3: on the federal level, and she was intending on winning

859
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: mayor and continuing to push that policy on local level.

860
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Speaker 3: But guess what she lost and she lost somebody it

861
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Speaker 3: was not pushing reform on that level.

862
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Speaker 2: So there you go.

863
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Speaker 3: So now you have a majority black city ran by

864
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Speaker 3: white man who lost who Congress with Mashila jacks who's

865
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Speaker 3: that leadership in Houston for a damn near thirty years

866
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Speaker 3: and lost a race.

867
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Speaker 2: So this is what happens.

868
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Speaker 3: This is what happens, and this is why we see

869
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 3: what we see. So people that say elections don't matter

870
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Speaker 3: literally don't know what they're talking about. Like literally don't

871
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Speaker 3: know what they're talking about. It does matter, but I

872
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: do know how some feel like it doesn't.

873
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: I get it.

874
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: But if nothing else, you need to be involved on

875
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 3: a local state Left, let's not pushing no Democrat down ballot.

876
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: That's not pushing oh I want democrat.

877
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 3: No, it's simply telling you that if your ass is

878
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 3: going to go stand before a judge, you need to

879
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: know that judge is elected and that means for ticket,

880
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: child support, divorce, business license, whatever you are going to

881
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: deal with something that is politically that is that politics

882
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: has something to do with it. If you want to

883
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: open up a business property appraiser, that's an elected position.

884
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: It matters when you have conservative or liberal and what

885
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: all of that matters. You just need to know you

886
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: know what it leads to, nothing else, know what the

887
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: hell you're getting into. So we'll move on with that.

888
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: I speak right a bit of time of it. I

889
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: didn't think we was gonna have a lot of time

890
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: spend on there, but obviously we went down a rabbit

891
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: hole on that. So just to remind people again in

892
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 3: case you're not paying attention, maybe we'll do a whole

893
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: show on a project twenty twenty five.

894
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: This is critically important, just to remind you.

895
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: Y'all can argue about Trump and Biden and personality all

896
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 3: you want to, but Trump is pushing for if he

897
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: is elected. He's saying he will not give federal funding

898
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: to police departments that do not implement stopping friss. Let

899
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: me say it again, he is not going to issue

900
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 3: federal funding, which every police every police department needs federal funding.

901
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 3: So bottom line is he's saying, if you want money

902
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: from the federal government, you better be implementing stopping Friss.

903
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: He's also pushing for amenity for police officers. He wants

904
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 3: some more investigations for district attorneys like we saw maryln Mosley,

905
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: and he is a proponent of sending in the National Guard.

906
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 2: So think it's a game.

907
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: If you want to think it's about goal, think it's

908
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: about sleepy Joe. I don't like Joe Biden in the

909
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: ninety four crime Bill.

910
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: I get it. That's nineteen ninety four right now. We're

911
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: talking about twenty twenty four right now, and we're talking

912
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: about Project twenty twenty five.

913
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: So you can either deal with what's in front of

914
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: you right now and deal with that or not. And

915
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: for those who are pushing for this an old man,

916
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: forget Biden and that you better be real mindful because

917
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 3: the stats show who gets pulled over on stopping Friss,

918
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 3: and it usually ain't black women.

919
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: It's usually black men. So be careful.

920
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, black folks have been I mean.

921
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: We get pulled over, but not as much as black men.

922
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: Just to be clear that's true.

923
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: Well, a lot of black folks in hearing are talking

924
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: about the immigration issue as it's as if it's more

925
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: of an immediate threat than our likelihood or chances of

926
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 4: being pulled over and assult about police officers or worse.

927
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: So this will be a very very interesting election.

928
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: Yep.

929
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: And also, and again this is real data when black

930
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: people call the police, when we call the police for

931
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: nine one, we're five times more likely to be shot.

932
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: And again we saw this with Ermin fortun who the

933
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: police went to the door, wrong door, shot him down

934
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: six times. So again we can sit around him and

935
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: talk about all these other issues if you want to.

936
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: But the closest you always use a phrase close to

937
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: the dollar. What affects you the most. This affects you

938
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 3: for real, for real. So again, let's just see how

939
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: it all works out. Guys, We're just gonna see how

940
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: it all works out. Michelle, I know you want to

941
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 3: talk to us about, Hey, governor or former governor Haley

942
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 3: who was running for president of the United States and

943
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: got out, give us a update on on what she's

944
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: up to.

945
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was.

946
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 5: Warned for a president Republican UH contended for president of

947
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 5: the United States running against former President Trump, whose administration

948
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 5: she formerly worked for, but recently announced that she will

949
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 5: vote for Trump. During a speech at the Conservative Hudson Institute,

950
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 5: she stated that Trump has not been perfect on these

951
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 5: policies that you know, I've made that clear many many times.

952
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 5: But Biden has been a catastrophe. So I will be

953
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 5: voting for Trump. That may be a surprise to some,

954
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 5: is not a surprise to most that she would fall

955
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 5: in line, of course, after suspending her campaign and falling

956
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 5: behind uh, the presumptive Republican nominee for president Uh.

957
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: This comes and come tradiction.

958
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 5: To some of the remarks that she made while running

959
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 5: for president and gainst her former boss. In an interview

960
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 5: with NBC news is Craig Melvin and February of this year,

961
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: she explained that, you know, the problem is now that

962
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 5: he's not the same person he was in twenty sixteen.

963
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 5: She said that he was unhinged, that he is more

964
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 5: diminished than he was, just like Joe, Biden's more diminished

965
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 5: than what he was. So despite her saying that he's unhinged,

966
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 5: spie her saying that he's not qualified, that he's diminished,

967
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 5: she still is going to back the former president for

968
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 5: his run for presidency in twenty twenty four, and a

969
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 5: light of this news, the Biden campaign held a zoom

970
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 5: call with Haley supporters after the endorsement. Oddly enough, behind

971
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 5: the scenes, the campaign has been spending money upwards of

972
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 5: a million dollars.

973
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: More to woo some of Haley's supporters.

974
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 5: Into voting for Biden, but a number of the supporters

975
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 5: are just saying they're just not there yet with Joe Biden.

976
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 5: And last but not least, Anthony Scaramucci, the former White

977
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 5: House Press secretary, called her endorsement of Trump her as

978
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 5: her not having any backbone, essentially saying that she's smarter

979
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: than what she's doing right now, but she has no

980
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 5: backbone in her decision, and that she knows what's gonna

981
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 5: happen when Trump gets elected, and that she's only doing

982
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 5: this to save her political career. You know, we talk

983
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 5: about this all the time, politicians and leaders doing whatever

984
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 5: it takes to keep their seat to remain in position,

985
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 5: and what they do and what they sacrifice to do that.

986
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 5: But Tz and Jada, I'd love to hear your straight

987
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 5: shots on what you think about you know, her essentially

988
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 5: flip flopping and her uh in the way she talked

989
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 5: about Trump and then going on to vote for that.

990
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: That's what they do. Uh, they're just like, uh, you know,

991
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: I'll call them.

992
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 4: Are we talking about this Sam Nicky Haley that was

993
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 4: just running for president, that said.

994
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 5: That he was thin skinned and easily distracted.

995
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 6: It's not normal to spend fifty million dollars in campaign

996
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 6: contributions on personal court cases. It's not normal to threaten

997
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 6: people who back your opponent. Donald Trump is turning the

998
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 6: Republican Party into his own playpen where it's all about him.

999
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: He's not qualified to be the president of the United

1000
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: States State.

1001
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: So I guess we're talking about this.

1002
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, times changed and she did as well, and so this.

1003
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 5: Is she got in a playpen. You know, she's in

1004
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 5: the playpen with everybody else.

1005
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: At this as expected. Again.

1006
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know if y'all ever watched True Blood,

1007
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 3: that series that was out, and they have a it's

1008
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: a vampire series, and they have a thing called shape shifters.

1009
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 3: And this is what politicians are. They just shape shifters.

1010
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 3: You know, they flit more than hotel mattresses. So because

1011
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: hotel manager actually don't get flipped as often as they should.

1012
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: But the point is, you know, they flip. This is

1013
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: what they do.

1014
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 3: They talk about you like a dog and they say, well,

1015
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: you know what, if I gotta go lesser than two eve,

1016
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with and and And Republicans do that

1017
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: better than anybody. They rather, they don't give a shit

1018
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: who it is. They go on for their own and

1019
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 3: I respect it. Like they just gonna gang bank. They're

1020
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: gonna do if you make it out, you know, like

1021
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 3: if they go against you and they beat you, they

1022
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 3: still gonna ride.

1023
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: With you in the end. That's how they. I think

1024
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: Democrats do that too. I want to be fair. I

1025
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: guess they do that too.

1026
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 3: But since Republicans get so ugly with their campaigning, you know,

1027
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: I guess that's what makes it so.

1028
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: You know.

1029
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: But then we had take that back because Chris Christy

1030
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 3: did Chris Christi eventually flip. I don't think he flipped

1031
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: that last. I think he was like, no, I'm just

1032
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: gonna stay against Trump.

1033
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: He didn't flip. Yeah, he's so far he's still going

1034
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: against Trump.

1035
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

1036
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 5: I think it's so interesting about this though, is the

1037
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 5: money that the Biding campaign is spending to court voters who,

1038
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 5: in my opinion, have no interest.

1039
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: It would never come to this other side.

1040
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 5: You got to remember when uh A governor, former Governor

1041
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 5: Haley came out. She came out as a Tea party candidate.

1042
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 5: Those are the core values that she came out on.

1043
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 5: What is the expectation from the body campaign that by

1044
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 5: spending some money or having some discussions that these folks

1045
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 5: will flip? You know, we think about the resources and

1046
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 5: stuff spent.

1047
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: You know, because I give you back, So back to

1048
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 3: what we talked about a little while ago. I'll give

1049
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 3: you an analogy. They damn sure don't have to spend

1050
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: it on the side check, so they might as well.

1051
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: If I got money to spend it ain't triggering if

1052
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: you got it. Let's just use the relationship analogy. I

1053
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: don't have to spend it on the side chick because

1054
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: she's straight. She ain't asked for nothing. And I'm talking

1055
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: about the black boat when I say the side check,

1056
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: the black boat ain't demanding nothing. It's no consequence for it.

1057
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: I don't have to buy y'all media. I don't have

1058
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: to buy your ads. I don't have to come put

1059
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: community centers in your community like they did Latino community

1060
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: when the Republicans put thirty Latino community centers all throughout Georgia.

1061
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, of course I'm gonna spend it on the

1062
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: people who don't want to fuck with me, because that's

1063
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: how relationships go. Ain't in the relationship and the man

1064
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: going after the woman that's the challenge, the one that

1065
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: he don't have. He don't have to get it on,

1066
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: the one that's already at the house.

1067
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: For what.

1068
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 2: Spending on you for what? You already here, You're gonna

1069
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: be here, so for what.

1070
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 5: Well, the next time we get to into these discussions

1071
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 5: about not having money for black media or any of that,

1072
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna have to go back and pull up

1073
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 5: the receipt where we spend a million dollars to talk

1074
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 5: to Haley.

1075
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: Uh, they got it, but.

1076
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: They ain't got it. They got it, but why would

1077
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: why would I give it? You just think about it

1078
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: as a business. As a business woman, I don't have

1079
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: what the what doll Grandma name always say, why about

1080
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: a cow?

1081
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: What if you can get the milk for free? Just

1082
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: a business situation?

1083
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: Why would I spend it for what? If I already

1084
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 3: got it? I ain't even mad it.

1085
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 5: Well, I agree, and we've had these discussions before. I agree,

1086
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 5: and I think that that's where we.

1087
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: Need to.

1088
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Speaker 5: Position ourselves as a voter base that has to be courted.

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Speaker 5: We've had those, it's different this time. You've got Charlomagne

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Speaker 5: uh the guy out there talking about it. I think

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00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 5: in this current political space, there has been enough pushback

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Speaker 5: from the black community to say, we're not seeing anything,

1093
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 5: we're not coming out, and that's ain't enough for there.

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Speaker 3: You don't think there's been enough pushback? Oh, not enough

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00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: pushback from the right people. Who's in the wrong. You

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Speaker 3: you just mentioned one person, Charlotte. It's just one person,

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Speaker 3: and he also gets pushed back right back, why are

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Speaker 3: you saying this?

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Speaker 2: Why are you doing this? Watch them on the view.

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Speaker 3: So there's not enough collective pushback from the right people

1101
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 3: in the room, push back for what where's the consequence

1102
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: and the repercussion? And again shout out to my conscious

1103
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 3: community family, love them to death. They pushing back on Twitter,

1104
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 3: But you ain't putting nobody in office. So pushing so

1105
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: talking about it, saying tangible's no vote versus getting a

1106
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: pack and getting one hundred thousand people to go to

1107
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: the polls like they did in Michigan, to actually say yeah,

1108
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 3: no vote yeah, to actually check it like that, show

1109
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: me put it on the ballot, no tangible, no vote,

1110
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: you can do that. They put these nuts on the ballot.

1111
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 3: White folks put these nuts on the ballot, literally d

1112
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: z nuts on the ballot.

1113
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: So to my.

1114
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: Conscious community, I stay on them all the time with this,

1115
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: y'all got money to raise for everything else the community.

1116
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: The immigrants, y'all keep talking about they making moves.

1117
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 2: They gotta pay.

1118
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: They went and said we want one hundred thousand of yo.

1119
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: How again we did these numbers before came in will

1120
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: show us on but how many people? Millions of people

1121
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Speaker 3: in Michigan. They weren't trying to get every single person

1122
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: to agree. They weren't trying to get We just all

1123
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 3: got agree. We just all got to agree. Sit around,

1124
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: We just all got to agree. What did we teach

1125
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: and push the line? It ain't about what, It ain't

1126
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: about we, It's about me. You do not need a

1127
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: bunch of people to push a line. It's how we're

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00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 3: pushing it. One hundred thousand people went to Michigan, went

1129
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: to got put on their clothes, got out, their bed

1130
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 3: and went and said, we fucking with everybody. But you

1131
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: what keep talking about on Twitter and they don't give it.

1132
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: THEMN about Charlomagne is just one person on the breakfast club. Again,

1133
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: if that does not translate into organizing.

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00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody.

1135
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: They don't the air community. They don't have no breakfast club.

1136
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: They don't need none, though, because they went down to

1137
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 3: that pole.

1138
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 5: Right, is that direct action that impacts whether he gets

1139
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 5: out that that's that is respected.

1140
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. They don't care a value one component

1141
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 3: of it. Yes we need the Charlemagnees. But if there's

1142
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: no this is what kill Mike you're trying to tell you.

1143
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 3: If there's no organizing component that matches up with that,

1144
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 3: you're just talking. It's just Charla Maine can't do it

1145
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: because that's what he does. His bro what do we

1146
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: talk about and push a lot?

1147
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 2: Everybody got a roll until a few of us coordinate

1148
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: the right way, not everybody, just a few. Let's stop

1149
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 2: talking about everybody. Just a few coordinate in the right way.

1150
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna start seeing some some conversations. But if everybody,

1151
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: if a few of us are not coordinating in the

1152
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: right way, then you're just talking pushback. Ain't shit, Michelle.

1153
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 2: If it, organizing is missing. And that's fact.

1154
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 5: Without the organizing, without the direct impact that the candidates

1155
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 5: inadpayt spiel. Whether it be again, they're not getting the vote,

1156
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 5: they ain't getting the money, they're recall lectures, whatever that

1157
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 5: is that direct to ask that impacts whether they get

1158
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 5: the seat or not. It's just top So guess where

1159
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 5: the money is getting spent in Michigan. In Michigan, because

1160
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 5: they told you you ain't playing with you, They're not

1161
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 5: gonna now. They're not gonna do what they're asking, which

1162
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 5: is a ceasefire because the US will always be down

1163
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 5: with Israel. So y'all can get over that they're gonna

1164
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 5: always be down with Israel. But I'm not saying get over.

1165
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 5: Keep fighting, and I'm my apologist, keep fighting, but they're

1166
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 5: always going to be with Israel.

1167
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Speaker 3: But the bottom line is they spending money in Michigan

1168
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 3: because they got to go get them other people. They

1169
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: got to get them, turn the lights on and find

1170
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 3: out where the other voters are because they damn show

1171
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 3: can't depend on them one hundred thousand, so they're making

1172
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 3: them work harder. Remember I always saying the train it's

1173
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 3: not always about you winning, but making your opponent run harder. Right,

1174
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: So get out the vote means now I gotta spend

1175
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 3: more money because I know that era community ain't playing

1176
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 3: with me. They just be pushing me all the way.

1177
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: So now, okay, where can I spend this money? And

1178
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: they ain't talking about spending it in Detroit with the

1179
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: black voters because they feel like they already got that

1180
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 3: on lock.

1181
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 2: That's how we beat them in Michigan.

1182
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 3: Michelle in with Barney said, because they didn't pay attention

1183
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: to they said, well, we got Detroit on lock, no problem,

1184
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: So I'll just go to Flint and then all the

1185
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: white boys just went around all the labor, all the

1186
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: white boys on the outskirts, and that's how they won

1187
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 3: by two percent. That's how Bernie Sanders won by two percent.

1188
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 3: And that's the strategy that's employed across this nation.

1189
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 5: You and I work campaigns across this nation, and we've

1190
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 5: sat at many tables where that is essentially the strategy.

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00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 5: We know we're gonna get fired to eight percent of

1192
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 5: black votes, so we don't have to spend the money

1193
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 5: here uh to court them for their vote. Let's spend

1194
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 5: it with moderate Republicans who vote all the time and

1195
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 5: see if we can persuade them or convince them.

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Speaker 2: To vote for our deal. That's just a business decision.

1197
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 3: If I only got a certain amount of money and

1198
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: I can only.

1199
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Speaker 2: Spend a limited amount of time, yeah.

1200
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: You're an a limited amount of time. I'm gonna spend

1201
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 3: it on where I'm gonna get the most value. If

1202
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm poor, I'm gonna buy best value cereal. I'm not

1203
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: gonna buy the cheeriods because best value cheaper, and it

1204
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 3: is gonna be able to stretch it.

1205
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 2: That's what it is. And the only reason and the

1206
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: only way that changes.

1207
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 3: Is that there's a consequence behind not spending it with us.

1208
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 3: And that is where we've become with the hard and

1209
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: rock place, between the hard and rock place, because like

1210
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 3: they say, we can't afford to vote for Trump, that

1211
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: would hurt our community just to prove a point. That's

1212
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 3: where we That's where they say, well, damn, we can't

1213
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 3: go this way because of this. The Hispanic community say

1214
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: it's different though they say they willing to go ahead

1215
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 3: and take the chance.

1216
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: They say, let's go ahead and take the chance.

1217
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: But also fifty percent of day population is very conservative,

1218
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 3: and they're okay with being very conservative, and they're all

1219
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 3: right with anti abortion, you know, pro pro life, they're

1220
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 3: okay with immigration. Cubans are totally okay with it. In Florida,

1221
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: they say, that's why I don't know, I don't It

1222
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 3: amazes me every time. It just shows me how much

1223
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 3: people don't know about the Litlatino votes.

1224
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: Very interesting demographic.

1225
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: Because when I hear people say, I don't know why

1226
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 3: they're doing it, they gonna send you back, send back

1227
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: who when you're talking about in Florida, the Florida ain't

1228
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: talking about in Mexico.

1229
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: You're talking about California, Florida talking about Cuba. They don't

1230
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 2: like nothing that resemble communism at all, and they figured

1231
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: you need to go through the policy, just like we

1232
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: had to go through the policy.

1233
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 3: Take cass On back. They'll ship your back yourself. So

1234
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 3: people gotta understand Latino vote, it ain't the same in

1235
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 3: Texas and California and Florida. That's why it split.

1236
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: So just very interesting. So we'll see. Hey, Michelle, I

1237
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: don't know, Like I said, this sounds real cynical.

1238
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to be so cynical, But

1239
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 3: I'm just being as honest as I possibly can. I

1240
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 3: just think it's just a shake up's going to happen.

1241
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 3: It's going to happen. It has to happen, and we

1242
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 3: just got to start over. And I don't know what

1243
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 3: that means. I don't know if that means Trump gets elected.

1244
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be elected. But do I think

1245
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 3: it's a possibility. Absolutely, And I don't know in anybody

1246
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 3: that don't think is a possibility.

1247
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: Clearly.

1248
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 3: I was talking to us some friend of mine, real

1249
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 3: higher up in the media this weekend. She said, but Tess,

1250
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 3: do you really think he can win? Yes, because it's

1251
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 3: up to eight states, up to eight states. This conversation

1252
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 3: y'all talking about and put this that that has nothing

1253
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 3: to do with nothing. It's up to eight states and

1254
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 3: one of those states is Michigan. It's not about what

1255
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 3: you think in California and New York, in Texas.

1256
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: And is it's in Missouri for That's not about any

1257
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: of that.

1258
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: It's about these eight states and how are you organizing

1259
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: these eight states? And Michigan's Michigan is a problem, not

1260
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 3: just because of the Muslim vote, the college vote, you

1261
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 3: got the college vote. Half of the college people pro

1262
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 3: Palestine because we're talking about white votes. Let's be clear,

1263
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 3: when're talking about HBCU College, we're talking about Michigan State.

1264
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: So you got a lot of anti war people there.

1265
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 3: But also what is the other part of the college

1266
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: that has a problem with what college debt? They got

1267
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 3: the other part of the college students who just vote

1268
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 3: apathy period and just not interested. They'll come to the rallies,

1269
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 3: but they still not going to vote. We saw that

1270
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 3: with Bernie Sanders. So you get a college demographic that's

1271
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 3: split up three and four different ways. You have the

1272
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: Muscles on community that runs the shit out of Michigan

1273
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 3: as far as who actually gets up and actually votes,

1274
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 3: put that talk behind that walk. You have Detroit black

1275
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: black voters who are just black apathy and saying, you

1276
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: know what, fuck it, we're struggling, so we don't care

1277
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 3: about what you're going through. You have the labor I

1278
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 3: didn't do a whole podcast just on Michigan's people really

1279
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: don't understand, like yeah, yeah, like what's happening to me?

1280
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: Labor? Half of them are okay that the strike is

1281
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,479
Speaker 2: over with, but having him like I don't know. You really,

1282
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: we really didn't get we walt. You just showed up

1283
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: at the last minute.

1284
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 3: You remember when they came back because Jay we cover

1285
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: that on Front page New Like when the strike was

1286
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: over and Biden showed up at the strike and it

1287
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: was like, uh, I guess so they not you know,

1288
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 3: they not as raw rack. But it's so innoting because remember,

1289
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: Joe Biden used to be the guy they people may

1290
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: not remember this. Joe Biden became Barack Obama's vice president

1291
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: because of Michigan. That was the one they were gonna

1292
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: send the Michigan he was Uncle Joe. That's where Uncle

1293
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: Joe came. Uncle Joe, sit.

1294
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: Down, have a beer, guy, you have a beer with

1295
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: I understand labor, I understand white collar, the American man.

1296
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the American man.

1297
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 3: Joe was that guy. He's no longer that guy. So

1298
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: who's that guy now? It ain't Kamala Harris. So who's

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Speaker 3: the guy that's gonna go out there and talk to

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Speaker 3: the have a beer? So all five of those things

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Speaker 3: that's just on the surface of Michigan. It is so

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Speaker 3: many different elements. Like when we were talking about Michelle

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Speaker 3: and we'll wrap this up though when we were talking

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Speaker 3: about why I won't mention this person's name, but we

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Speaker 3: never didn finish that conversation. But you like, I'm standing

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Speaker 3: ten toes down, this person's gonna lose the selection because

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Speaker 3: of this, And I, oh, yeah, called you because I

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Speaker 3: wanted to tell you it's never because of this one thing.

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Speaker 3: It is never because I got in a car accident

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Speaker 3: because it was raining outside. No, I got in the

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Speaker 3: car when I broke my ankle. I didn't just break

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Speaker 3: my ankle because it was raining outside. I broke my

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Speaker 3: ankle because it was raining outside. I was walking on

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Speaker 3: steps that were very slippery, that had stone that were

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Speaker 3: very slippery, and I had on flip flops and the

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Speaker 3: rubber made me slip. All of those things not just.

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Speaker 5: Com a nation of a number of factors, but factors

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Speaker 5: that lead to what could be You've phoned downstairs and

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Speaker 5: or Biden lose in Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: But it's important that as analysts that were not and

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Speaker 3: analysts and educators and trainers that were not putting it

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Speaker 3: on that one thing. And so that conversation that you

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Speaker 3: and I were having is like, no, I'm telling you

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Speaker 3: this is gonna be it this is why he's gonna lose.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like no, and I'll just be a little

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Speaker 3: say a little bit of it now, it's not because

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Speaker 3: so that one thing and apologize. Listeners, you'll know what

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about. We're gonna see if this candidate wins

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Speaker 3: or not, and it will come. We'll circle back and

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Speaker 3: break all thisa we'll circle back. But the reason why

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Speaker 3: so that one thing. So let me just use example

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Speaker 3: with me breaking my foot so it can.

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Speaker 2: Make sense to you.

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Speaker 3: If I have a pack that is committed to everybody

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Speaker 3: knowing I broke my foot and saying they're gonna spend

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Speaker 3: twenty million dollars to no, I broke my foot. Is

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Speaker 3: it that I broke my foot? Is the reason or

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Speaker 3: the pack that put the twenty million dollars out there

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Speaker 3: to let everybody know I broke See what I'm saying, right,

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Speaker 3: So when you say no, it's a pack.

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Speaker 2: So when you say no, no, no, but it's because

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Speaker 2: you broke your foot, no, because I could have broke

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Speaker 2: my foot and nobody ever knew it.

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Speaker 3: I'll use a real time example of a sender the turner.

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Speaker 3: She said a lot that nobody knew. Remember when she

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Speaker 3: ran the first time, but when that pack got involved,

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Speaker 3: they let make sure everybody know what she said. So

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Speaker 3: did she lose because of what she said? Or was

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Speaker 3: it because the pack put the money befire and make

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Speaker 3: sure that everybody knows she said. Do y'all follow I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So you can sit back and say no, no, no, she

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Speaker 3: lost because she said Joe Biden was a piece it

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01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: was a ball of shit. No, be an analyst, think

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Speaker 3: about she lost because a pack made sure everybody knew

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01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 3: that she said Joe Biden was a piece of shit.

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01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 3: Nobody knew she said that the first time. She got

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Speaker 3: plummeted the second time because of what she said. So

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Speaker 3: that's why when you heard her say it was big

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Speaker 3: money behind my campaign, sitting back, though you could say

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Speaker 3: it wasn't big money. It's also because you said this true.

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Speaker 3: But the big money is how the message gets out,

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Speaker 3: get out the vote. Who hears what? So it's no

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Speaker 3: one thing, it's a combination of those things. And you

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01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: can easily say, yeah, but if he never if she

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Speaker 3: never said he was a bull of shit, then it

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be a problem. Well it would, Michelle, because that

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Speaker 3: pack they're gonna find something else. You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: The thing you did is interchangeable. The power though that

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01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 3: put it out there, I can find anything. I could

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Speaker 3: make something up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there could be a lot that gets made up.

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Speaker 2: So does you see? So you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So that's why we don't rest on the thing. We

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Speaker 3: rest on the machine that made it happen. Because even

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01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,479
Speaker 3: if she didn't say bowl of shit, I can say

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01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: I don't like the fact that she wear purple shirts

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01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 3: on Tuesday. And now I'm gonna take that money and

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01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna find everybody who believe you should wear green

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01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 3: shirts on Tuesday, and I'm gonna know, Hey, y'all know

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01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 3: she wore purple shirts on Tuesdays. She wore purp shirts

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01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 3: on Tuesday, preparce shirts. So you don't necessarily.

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Speaker 2: Ride on that.

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01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 3: It's an important part of it, but you don't rest

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01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 3: on them like when you were saying, no, I'm ten

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01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 3: toes down on this. It's because of that. That's why

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01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 3: I was like, no, it's not because of that. It

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01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 3: is because of what is the machine that is pushing that.

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01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 3: But since this candidate that we talked about did something,

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01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 3: so I won't say profile they're so high profile, it's

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01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 3: easy to believe that it's that, But it's not that,

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01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 3: because that pack is still pushing everything else little profile,

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01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 3: small profile, medium profile that they can beate. So it's

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Speaker 3: a combination of the weather. When a weather, when a

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01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: meteorology is telling you the weather, and they're not just

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01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 3: saying it's gonna rain.

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01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: They're talking about participating.

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01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 3: What is the participat precipitation, They're talking about clouds, They're

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01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 3: talking about what's coming in, what's going out, what's going

1400
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 3: on over here, what's going on over there. You don't

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01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 3: make a determination on the weather just based on they

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01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 3: say this. You see what I'm saying, all of those things,

1403
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 3: So when you're looking at a campaign, you have to

1404
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: look at all of those things. If all of those

1405
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 3: things combine. Fanny Willis, if she loses, it will not

1406
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 3: be just because what happened with her lover. It will

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01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 3: not be just because she went against truck. There's a

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01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 3: certain percentage of people that don't like it that you

1409
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 3: win against rappers as well. There's a certain percentage that

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01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 3: don't like the people that she locked up.

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Speaker 2: There's a certain percentage.

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Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, All of those things. If

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Speaker 3: you look at what happened, and then we'll wrap us up.

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01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 3: If you look at what happened with Marylyn Moseley reanber,

1415
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: I send y'all in link. It was a protester out there,

1416
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 3: goes by the name of Shorty. He's gonna be constantly

1417
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 3: out there because he's constantly talking about the time that

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01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 3: he got behind Marylyn Moseley hind it damn about what

1419
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: y'all was out here talking about about how she deserves

1420
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 3: you know, pardon all that he said no because I

1421
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 3: had to do time. So as long as I had

1422
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: due time, i'mna be sitting right here. That went out

1423
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 3: to the media. So it's not just one thing, it's.

1424
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: Many, many, many things.

1425
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 3: Now we can rate those things according to you know,

1426
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 3: what was the straw that broke the camel's back?

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01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: How much did this impact?

1428
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 3: But as analysts and educators and especially you know, as

1429
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 3: we continue to train people on this, we want to

1430
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: train people look at all those components because if not,

1431
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 3: you're getting blind spots and you're not paying attention to

1432
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 3: you know, how this one thing can make a difference

1433
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: in this one little thing, and you know, so that's

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01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 3: what I want to say on that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to remind the listeners that the twenty

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01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 4: twenty four swing states are Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania,

1437
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 4: and Wisconsin. And there are ninety three electoral votes that

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01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 4: were up for grabs and this is according to the

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01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 4: US World News and World Report.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Jada. I appreciate that. Thank you

1441
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 2: forgetting that. So that's really important.

1442
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 3: So it's all about eight people love saying you a

1443
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 3: two eight two eight. Well we're gonna see who eat

1444
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 3: whore gonna eat this year and got everything to do

1445
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 3: with that and everything else to distraction. I appreciate you, guys.

1446
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 3: I love it when we go over so when we

1447
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 3: get a lot of content in because that means it's necessary. So, guys,

1448
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us again on Straight Shot,

1449
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 3: No Chase or podcast check in with this Thursday. We're

1450
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 3: gonna be talking about you mentioned a couple of other

1451
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 3: things here, Fanny willis that election, want to kind of

1452
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 3: break that down. I'm also gonna be talking about Trump

1453
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: being booed at the Libertarian convention, give you our thoughts

1454
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 3: on that. And Michelle's gonna be breaking down the NC

1455
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 3: Doublea's house settlement, So we're gonna talk about that as well.

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Speaker 2: Ten things you know about that.

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01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 3: That's a great thing, and I want to talk about

1458
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 3: that and what this looks like the HBCU. Make sure

1459
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 3: you're tapping again. Thank you so much, Michelle and Jay

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01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 3: for joining me. I'm stop thinking, y'all, well, I'll do

1461
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 3: meed thank y'all every week. But I'm saying because I

1462
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 3: want people to get a customer to hearing y'all, so

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01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 3: I don't mean not thank you, but they'll be joining me.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 3: We're trying to out this new format. We want to

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01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 3: see how it works and I hope you enjoy it.

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01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 3: Make sure you put a review on Apple. That's important, guys,

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Speaker 3: click the five star put a review. I don't normally

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01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 3: push that a lot, but if you can, I would

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Speaker 3: greatly appreciate it. And thank you everybody for letting us

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01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: know what you do. Enjoy this new format, So thank

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Speaker 3: you so much, Jada, Michelle, but joining me again and

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01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 3: we'll see you guys on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Peacet y'all want to say bye.

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Speaker 4: Byeesling, thank you, Jay, by y'all.

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Speaker 2: You to the listeners by y'all beasts.

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,840
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