1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty Armstrong and Jettie and Hee 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty. 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 3: I broke up with my iPhone for two weeks and 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: fooled around with an old school flip phone. But this 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: forces friction into your life. 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: It takes away all that ease. It was really. 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 3: Excruciating at first, but then we went back and the 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: brain tests were really staggering. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: Even the experts are surprised by the difference. 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: Your hippocampus, the part of your brain that creates memories, shrinking. 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: Because we use Google Maps, we don't naminate the world 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: the way our ancestors did. Our focus has gone from 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: about two and a half minutes people could focus on 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: something your two thousand or so. Now it's around forty 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: seven seconds. 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 4: Well, our hippopotam shrinking, that's correct. Yeah, lack of water 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 4: to the nile. That's a bill weird, really interesting story. 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: So what was the last stat there there? 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Katie, what was the last stat they had there? 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: About our attention span? Obviously I couldn't pay attention. 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 4: Oh my god, the Irony police had been alerted Jack 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 4: couldn't pay attention long enough to a story about attention span. 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking about my hippopotamus jokes. Oh boy. 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 4: Uh, the average attention span has shrunk from two and 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: a half minutes to forty seven seconds. 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: I'm surprised it's as long as that. 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that, the shrinking hippo campus stuff. I've 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 4: become convinced of that. In fact, I remember that study 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 4: made a hell of an impression on me that cabbies 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 4: who tended, who knew the city and didn't use navigation 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: systems showed markedly less uh Alzheimer's disease to mention in 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 4: general than than caves who didn't in a big study. 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: I know some of that doesn't surprise me that I know. 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: Somebody remember our old producer Dominic, Evil Evil, Dominic, who's 37 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: now dad good? 38 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 4: Going back from like Trump with the is that he 39 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 4: said he I'm glad he's dead. 40 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that about a Robermuller. Well that's not me. Yeah, 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: but I am glad Dominic's dead. 42 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: Uh uh, but are google it. 43 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: You'll agree if you look into it. 44 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: But uh, he used GPS to get to work and 45 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: he lived not exaggerating like three blocks from the radio station. Correct, 46 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: And he used the GPS every single day to get 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: to work and to get back home and a few 48 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: years and I thought that was extraordinary. 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: And I just found out the other day somebody I know, 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: really really well, I won't say who. 51 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: It was shocking to me, uses it for everything in 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: their own town, where they've lived for years, going places 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: they've gone hundreds of times, they use it. And I 54 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: just wonder about our shrinking brains. Or you know where 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: the hippos go to class hippo. 56 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 4: Campus, Yes, yes, very will sidewalks or whatever's going on there. 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: Yes, Katie. 58 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 5: So there have been a few times where I will 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 5: be going somewhere where I absolutely know how to get there, 60 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 5: but I'll turn on ways just to check traffic. 61 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: Is that why I was using That's. 62 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 4: That's not what's happening in this particular, because he was 63 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 4: showing up to work at four o'clock in the morning. Yeah, 64 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: three walks or this or this person I know who 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: I will not name. 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: That's not that's not the reason they're doing it to 67 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: check traffic. 68 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, don't wonder about that. 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: Wow, bad for your brain. You got to use your brain, 70 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: use it or lose it. 71 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't know very many people, or I haven't heard 72 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: from very many people who use self driving all the 73 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: time like I do. I use it every single day. 74 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: I thought I I thought it was pointless. Now I 75 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: use it every single day. And I drove my regular truck, 76 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: my Ford F two fifty diesel yesterday to go pick 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: something up. And it seemed so ponderous to have to 78 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: pay attention and drive. 79 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I know, crazy? 80 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: Is that? 81 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: How crazy is that? 82 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: Just seems like, wow, I gotta pay atten, I gotta 83 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: watch the road the entire way, can't check my jails 84 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: or whatever. 85 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: It's it's changing our brains. 86 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna hear more about that as more people get 87 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: self driving. It's it's changing our brains. 88 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: Not good. 89 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 4: And these are among the first studies I've heard looking 90 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 4: into this phenomenon. I think it will be more and 91 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: more and the science will be more and more settled. 92 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 4: I hope I haven't ruined my brain by the time, 93 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: you know, we all hear this stuff. But yeah, that 94 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 4: will be conventional wisdom soon that don't rely on the 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 4: damn thing for something you could use your brain for instead. 96 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: I mean it'd be like me having a robot, and 97 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 4: every time I had lift something more than ten pounds, 98 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: I'd say, Joe Bot, Joe Bot, please lift this for me. 99 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: I can't be troubled. What do you think that would 100 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: do to my arms? 101 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: Sit there with your skinny, little Timothy shallow my arms 102 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: hanging at your side while a robot puts food in 103 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: your mouth. 104 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: Yes, that's the ultimate, isn't it? Yeah? Exactly. 105 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 4: Oh, speaking of smartphones, I was reading another piece about 106 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: how the Democrats. I thought they'd stop doing this, but 107 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: apparently they've doubled down on there. Let's use the F 108 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 4: word a lot to show how earthy and regular guy 109 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: we all are. 110 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: We are exactly. So there's been more of that. 111 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 4: But here's my favorite one Nevada Democratic congress Woman Susy Lee, 112 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: who calls herself America's number one most bipartisan member of Congress. 113 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: That's how she characterizes herself. I like bipartisanship, That's fine. 114 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 4: She wrote this in a one am social media post 115 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 4: about Trump's trip to the Supreme Court on the birthright 116 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 4: citizenship quote, so efing fed up. I'll pray they f 117 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 4: him to his face. Sorry, I say f a lot 118 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 4: these days. But she spelled it out. Obviously, was that 119 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: for so far? 120 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: Yes? 121 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 4: At one A m Lee deleted the post, but defended 122 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 4: it in a ten am follow up, saying, my nerve 123 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: was touched by the attacks on our constitution and its 124 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 4: separation of powers. 125 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: And you're a little drunkie drunk. 126 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 5: I was gonna say it sounds like your nerves were 127 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 5: touched by vodka. 128 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: Katie's the winner. 129 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: Katie wins, Katie wins the staff joke of the day. 130 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 4: Well done, Katie, Congratulations. 131 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: It will be. 132 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 4: Ordering a plaque on Amazon. It will come with a misprint. 133 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 4: We'll vow to return it and then never get around 134 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 4: to him. So let's let's be realistic. 135 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: Can I do that way too much? 136 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 5: She had a stat of things to return and I 137 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 5: ended up taking them to Goodwill. 138 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm never gonna do this. 139 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: Right, let's thirty days or sixty days or ninety days 140 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: or whatever passes, and I think, jeez, want to waste 141 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: the money? 142 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, speaking of brain power, maybe this is the 143 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: time to get to this. 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So I remember when they 174 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: were contemplating this, and there are howls of pain and 175 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 4: anguish from the poor, little rich kids and alleged geniuses 176 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: of Harvard, the fact that for years Harvard has been 177 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,479 Speaker 4: handing out a's like their participation trophies. 178 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: Well, does this article include those numbers we mentioned a 179 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. How much it changed from the 180 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: early two thousands. I mean, it's just amazing. 181 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see. 182 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: They want to cap the number of a's per course 183 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 4: at twenty percent, plus an additional four a's to account 184 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: for smaller courses with more variability. 185 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: Those are like your a's to be named later. I 186 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: don't know if you need them. 187 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: It comes after a report released in the fall that 188 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 4: found that sixty percent of grades were a's in all 189 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: classes last school here sixty percent. That's up from twenty 190 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: five percent in twenty. 191 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: Oh five, twenty oh six, in the mind the nineteen eighties, 192 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: right in the last two decades, they went from a 193 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: quarter of the people to get a's to the majority 194 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: easily get a's. 195 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 4: Solid majority. Yes, I mean that is ridiculous. It is 196 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: im mockable. 197 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: Well, and imagine it's humiliate Well, you can't blame the kids, 198 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: but imagine how if you're a straightey student at Harvard 199 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: you think you've got the world by the tail man, 200 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to walk out of here and just run 201 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: the world. I'm a straight a student freaking Harvard. 202 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: Well, and again, as much as I would like to 203 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: smugly judge the kids and don't worry, folks, I will, 204 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: they did not raise themselves. They did not decide that 205 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 4: everybody should get a trophy. This is the flowering of 206 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 4: the everybody gets a trophy generations. 207 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: Well, what what drives this? 208 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: So they're saying, I'm sorry to complete the thought. They're saying, WHOA. 209 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 4: I've got nothing but a's my entire school career. It's 210 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: kind of the default. If you don't get an A, 211 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 4: that's like getting a D. And now you're changing the 212 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: rules on me. Now that I'm an undergrad and they're there, 213 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 4: they got to suck it up. 214 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: But it's not like they have no point no, and well, 215 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: they grow up in schools where they hand out a's 216 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: like crazy, you know, grade school, in high school they 217 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: give out a's similar numbers. I would guess, sure, Yeah, 218 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: you put in some effort, you do a pretty good job, 219 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: like you fulfill the. 220 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: Minimum requirements, and you will get an A. Well if 221 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: that has been. 222 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: What you've been taught your whole life, right right, the 223 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 4: teacher swinging their chardona out of their disguised cup after 224 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: a day of school. 225 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: I don't think, and I don't want to. I don't know. 226 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: I guarantee it. 227 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 4: I don't want to argue with some parent over why 228 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: their genius got to be screwed. 229 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm giving them aunt. So what drives it? Is it 230 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: the hole you get a better rating as a teacher thing, 231 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: or that's a lot of it. Yeah, parents complain. 232 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: I remember back in my day, which was not the 233 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 4: nineteen thirties, we were lucky to be at a quote 234 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 4: unquote elite university. Make no mistake, I wasn't in the 235 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: program that made my university elite at all, but it 236 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 4: was in elite university. We were glad to be there 237 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: and hung on for dear life to stay there. Now 238 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: they're customers. They're like customers at an expensive resort, and 239 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: so they're treating money such. Now I'm going to make 240 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: a joke that most Harvard kids wouldn't get because they're 241 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 4: so dopeyes thanks to the Great Inflation. About half of 242 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: Harvard undergrad students are against this change ninety four percent. 243 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: Ninety four percent oppose the policy to cap. A's you 244 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 4: gotta be kidding no, So almost all the students think, no, 245 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: they should, they should hand out sixty percent as what 246 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: Martin Puckner, an English professor who probably teaches all day 247 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: about decolonizing the deconstruction of white supremacist literical literature. He 248 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: supports the cap because the corrosive effects of Great inflation. 249 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 4: You're right, people laugh when they hear you have a 250 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: college diploma. Anyway, He said, this is the mildest measure imaginable. 251 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: I don't doubt it. And they're ninety four percent against it. Wow. 252 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 4: Interestingly, final point, this other Harvard psych professor, member of 253 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 4: the committee behind the proposal, likings it starting college with 254 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 4: a new car and trying to go four years without 255 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 4: a scratch. You're not going to take it off road. 256 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 4: You're not going to do anything interesting with it, He said, Boy, 257 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: this guy's worthy. You're teaching at Harvard. The proposal wouldn't 258 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 4: limit A minuses, only a's. The grading Proposal committee said, 259 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 4: this will make a minus is more common and therefore 260 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 4: less taboo. We want to liberate students from the tyranny 261 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,359 Speaker 4: of the four point oh and make them free to explore. 262 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's true. 263 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 4: Then he says something that ought to earn him a 264 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: punch in the stomach. We want to put the US 265 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: back in a minus. First, he makes this great point 266 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 4: that he says that, come on. 267 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 2: Let's see he did that knowing how jib that is. 268 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: He might, but I love that point. Let the kids 269 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: try something they might not be great at. That's what 270 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 4: a university education is supposed to be. 271 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: Well said, Sir Well said, I'm sure there is pressure 272 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: to take classes. You know you're gonna get a gay in. Yeah. 273 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: NBA playoffs may have changed with an injury last night. 274 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: Briefly touched on that. Lots of stuff on the ways 275 00:13:54,080 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: to hear climb me your funniest joke, Michael, this is 276 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: going to be on you if I don't laugh. 277 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 5: Oh wow, had just successfully launched a historic. 278 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: Ten day mission around the moon. But this is true. 279 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: Get this. 280 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 5: Shortly after launched the toilet aboard the Artemis two rocket broke, 281 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 5: Yew suddenly went from a billion dollar rocket to a 282 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 5: carnival cruise in space. 283 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: Maybe chuckled, You did, just have to jiggle the handle. 284 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: It's amazing how much that can fix. You Just got 285 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: to jiggle the handle a little. You're a hard chuckle. 286 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, wow, huh. 287 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: NBA playoffs may have changed. They start here pretty soon. 288 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: There's only a couple of games left. 289 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: Luka Doncic, MVP candidate for the Lakers, went down with 290 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: an injury last night and looked bad hamstring, which those 291 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: heal fast, and that would uh yeah, that might. 292 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: End the Lakers run. Might be the end of Lebron's career. 293 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: Hamstring is the classic. I think I'm ready to go coach, 294 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: then re injury it again. Injury, Yeah, always happens. Doesn't 295 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: seem to be many way to hurry those up either. 296 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: Oh no, it's a grisly massive muscle. Trust me. 297 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: Mine are like a horse's I mean really really impressed. Anyway. 298 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: I know somebody the other day and she's pretty, she's 299 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: probably like forty she uh, just like stepping off a 300 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: stair ruptured her agilles. Oh my god, and that's supposed 301 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: to be a bad one. 302 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: That's what. It takes a long time to heal. 303 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: Like, although now they got those cool things. You put 304 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: your with the wheels on them, and you just bend 305 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: your leg and put your knee on it and you 306 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: can just wheel yourself around. 307 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: I see those a lot of places. 308 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: Oh, it's a hell of a lot better than crutches. Yeah, 309 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: which you're awful. Uh, Coming up another kicking for Gaviy Newsome, 310 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 4: the great Champion of l G B t Q I 311 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 4: M I A LBG A plus minus over the power 312 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 4: three right. He is surprisingly quote unquote homophobic online. 313 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: What and I never use the term homophobic. 314 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: If it were anybody not a progressive saying the things 315 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: his account says online, the gay rights people would be 316 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: up in arms. 317 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: So quickly. 318 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: We can look at the latest polling on the war. 319 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: People ain't digging it, and it's going the wrong direction. 320 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: Of course, with endless negative news coverage, I don't know 321 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: why you'd be. 322 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: Surprised about that. 323 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: Roughly two thirds of Americans now disapprove of the US 324 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: decision to take military action in Iran. 325 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: I hate even asking this question. 326 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 4: What's the take been on TikTok where so many people 327 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 4: get their news. 328 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: Well, I know we're relentlessly. 329 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 4: Negative because it's sponsored by the communist Chinese. 330 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: On mainstream media. 331 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: So the polling at the end of February, thirty one 332 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: percent strongly disapprove of us doing what we're doing in Iran. 333 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: It is now forty three percent, and one month it 334 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: went up twelve points for strongly disapprove. Does Trump have 335 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: a clear plan for ending the war? Hasn't moved a lot, 336 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: but it has gone up to now a full two 337 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: third sixty seven percent says does not have a clear 338 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: plan for handling the situation and are in so be course, 339 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: if you again, if you take in media, any of 340 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: the mainstream media, they repeat that all day long, every day. 341 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: Why would you think anything different? Right? Right? Yeah, yeah, troubling. 342 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: I would, you know, suggest. 343 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: To people that the administration of the military have a 344 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 4: set of plans that they will implement depending on how 345 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: the plans progress. That's the nature of war. But I would, 346 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 4: I would admit this as a citizen. I don't feel 347 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: like we've been presented with a clear plan. 348 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: Right, But I'm still at the if things would have 349 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 1: to go really really really bad before I would get 350 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: to the. 351 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: We shouldn't have done this point. 352 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, since it was so awful and it was never 353 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: going to be easier to try to do something about it. So, 354 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: in addition to the Gavin Newsom thing, what does queer 355 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: mean in LGBTQ A great explanation from a gay fella. 356 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: You'll enjoy this cool Armstrong and Getty. 357 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 6: CBS News is first to report the arrest today of 358 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 6: a married couple in southern California accused of ripping off 359 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 6: Medicare for nearly seven and a half million dollars through 360 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 6: a series of fraudulent hospice claims. 361 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: Over seven hundred. 362 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 6: Hospices in Los Angeles County alone have red flags for fraud, 363 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 6: according to our investigative team. In this particular case, the 364 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 6: flags included a five year survival rate of ninety seven percent, 365 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 6: high for what is supposed to be end of life care. 366 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 6: The FBI says additional arrests are expected. 367 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's either that or like, take your 368 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 4: loved one there because obviously they've been touched by God. 369 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 2: On this good Friday, we have a new savior. 370 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: And they're at all the different hospices in La County 371 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: because they can keep you alive for five years or 372 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: more when you're supposedly in your final days of life, 373 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: which is usually what hospice care is for ninety what 374 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: do you say, ninety seven percent? 375 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: Whatever it was, Yeah, people will stay there will more 376 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: than five years. Oh my god. 377 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: Seven hundred hospice facilities have a red flag by CBS's standards, 378 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: which are probably more generous than mine. 379 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 4: And here's where I make you want to punch yourself 380 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 4: in the face or somebody. 381 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: And your neighbor is. 382 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 4: Next time your neighbor hears we need to raise taxes 383 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 4: to provide more care for the elderly, they'll. 384 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 2: Say, oh, yeah, that's the way we should raise taxes. Yeah, 385 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: the rich should pay their fair share. 386 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: Anyway, it's not a lighter thing, I know, I know, 387 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 4: And it's laughable, and and you know, it's worth pointing 388 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: out that it was, you know, right, independent online types 389 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 4: who really broke this story. 390 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: And then Fox News jumped on it. 391 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 4: I remember, we've featured William Laugnessa's terrific report and now 392 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: CBS News is on it saying, oh, this is outrageous 393 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 4: the most. 394 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: Interesting thing and then I'll shut up on this good 395 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: Friday because we talk about this all the time. The 396 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: most interesting thing is that you can do endless stories 397 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: about taxpayer money being the stolen from them and nobody 398 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: gets worked up enough. 399 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: It just it just doesn't land. We all just and 400 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: for whatever reason. 401 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if we just feel like it's too 402 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: big amountain to climb, or how would I or you 403 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: being organized to do anything about it or what, but. 404 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 2: It just we just put up with it. We just 405 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: put up with Yeah. Yeah, that's part of it. 406 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 4: I think there's a discouragement that sets in too, because, uh, 407 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 4: I'll skip the description. 408 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: Of it, but the reality of it is if you. 409 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: Were to go to Washington, DC, having like I don't know, 410 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: dropped aerosolized truth serum on the entire thing from helicopters, 411 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 4: and you got the President and like the leader of 412 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: the Senate and the Speaker of the House together you said, dudes, 413 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: you're wasting all of this money. I mean, there's scams 414 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: and just this insane and you're bilking the taxpayers and 415 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 4: were pissed off. But having had that truth serum, they'd 416 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: all look at you and say everybody's here, everybody. You 417 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: see all these buildings, look at those buildings. Okay, all 418 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: of us are in on it, every single one of us. 419 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: So hold your little demonstration and wave your little placard 420 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: and have fun. 421 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 2: That's what they would say, you're right about. 422 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: Government is a for profit enterprise. It's like it's like 423 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 4: the Clinton Foundation. It's a not for profit. The profit 424 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 4: is the pay. The profit is siphoning money to your 425 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 4: cronies and getting favors. 426 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: And board positions and everything in return. 427 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 4: That's the scam, right, And you just and it's so 428 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: easy to play upon people's emotions, or at least you know, 429 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 4: you only have to have a half of people's emotions 430 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: who aren't paying attention. I'll bet at some point during 431 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 4: the whole Doge cuts, I'll bet at some point there 432 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 4: was a headline and he's even looking at cutting funding 433 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: for hospice care. 434 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: Can you imagine anything more evil? I'll bet you're right. 435 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: I'll bet there's a headline like that out there somewhere 436 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: in ninety seven per hospices people stayed there more than 437 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: five years. 438 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: That's some good hospicecare, man, I'm telling you. 439 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, the mother Teresa must be the nurse there or 440 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: something touching their foreheads with divine intervention. Anyway, let's see, 441 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 4: let's skip what we're gonna do. I want to get 442 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 4: right to this because I want to make sure we 443 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 4: have time. I love bashing Gavin Newsom because I think 444 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: it would be a miserable, horrible president, and he would 445 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 4: ruin the entire country, as he and his party have 446 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 4: ruined California to some extent. 447 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: Anyway, it's still a wonderful place. 448 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 4: But this one just tan't ruin the weather, that's right, 449 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 4: or the scenery, although nah, you could cover the scenery 450 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 4: with junkies defecating and shooting up and accosting passers by, 451 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 4: so you can't see. 452 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: Like so many needs to keep track of how many 453 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: times we've used a word or variant of defecate today 454 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: and yesterday. I feel like it's like in the. 455 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 4: Dozens well, and perhaps graded on how appropriate it was 456 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 4: in that particular moment in which one of us may 457 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 4: have abused it more than the other. If we're going 458 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 4: to start keeping score about and a cus. 459 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: Oh so so, so. 460 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: There's going to be a gratuitous. 461 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 4: Judging on this also, yes, yeah, level of gratuity exactly 462 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 4: one hundred percent. 463 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: There you go. Now you've become part of the solution. 464 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: So this is. 465 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: You know, this is an example of lefty media hypocrisy, obviously, 466 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 4: but it's just odd. 467 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: So gov gave of already or not here it comes 468 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: about gay marriage. 469 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 4: I don't care what the lie is because I'm on 470 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 4: the right side of history. The governor at California has 471 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 4: a staff paid to hurl gay insults online at political opponents. 472 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 4: Said in another way, the actual strategy of the Democratic 473 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 4: leader one of the most liberal states in America is 474 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 4: to have young employees publicly post extremely offensive. 475 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: Anti gay jokes. I like this line. 476 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: Well, all it's doing is making newsome look like an 477 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 4: LGBTQI a hole. 478 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 2: So I'm not following here. I haven't gotten to the 479 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: examples yet. 480 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: Governor homophobe Homophobe doesn't seem to mind trampling on the 481 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 4: rainbow flag Bubba bah crudely suggesting his critics are gay 482 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 4: or mocking gay conservatives out gay conservatives has become one 483 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 4: of his team's go to tactics. Last month, responding to 484 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 4: a clip of conservative Benny Johnson on Fox News speaking 485 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 4: about the alleged fraud in Californ Horn. You did the 486 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 4: ex account smartly debate the issue. No, it made a 487 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: crack about a gay hookup app of course. 488 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: Quote. 489 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 4: We got a call from Grinder after this and said 490 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: your team was their biggest users. 491 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember that. We and we were flummexed by 492 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: it at the time. 493 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 4: Let's see when Johnson said he was coming to investigate 494 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: the Golden State. We'll make sure Grinder servers are ready, 495 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: they replied, Dick. 496 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: They right, Yeah, I remember. 497 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: We were confused at the time about that, because is 498 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: Benny Johnson known to be gay or is he hiding 499 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: being gay? And even if he was, why is that 500 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: a problem? He's a very pretty man. 501 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 502 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 4: That same month when Treasury Secretary Scott Descent openly gay, 503 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 4: highest gay you know, cabinet member ever in the Trump 504 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 4: administration that as so many gay people were convinced that 505 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: the Trump was going to try to take away your rights, 506 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 4: I mean, my god. Anyway, when he traveled to the 507 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 4: world economic for him in Davos, the governor's press office 508 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 4: account posted Scott Descent flew across the ocean a star 509 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: in the Real Housewives of and can't stop talking about 510 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 4: how hot he thinks Gavin Newsom's Davos Daddy Newsome is pathetic. 511 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 4: There are a couple other examples too. 512 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: Do you have any idea why this is? 513 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: I wrote, maybe his young staff is part of that 514 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 4: that's gay, or I don't generation. 515 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. 516 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 4: I really don't know. Like I said, I just think 517 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: it's hot. But much more important than this. I appreciate 518 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 4: this editorial by Ben Apple, who's the author of a 519 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 4: really intriguing sounding book, Cis White Gay The Making of 520 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: a gender heretic, And I appreciate it partly because it's 521 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 4: just well written and really honest, but because it makes 522 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 4: a point I've been trying desperately to make, and it 523 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: disturbs me how few people get this and how little 524 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 4: it's talked about. He writes that when he was twenty 525 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 4: nine in twenty twelve, he was a big activist for 526 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 4: gay marriage in Maryland, where he lived, and that November, 527 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: his home state became one of the first to legalize 528 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 4: same section marriage by popular vote. He was euphoric, and 529 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 4: he wanted to keep that feeling going. He wanted to 530 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 4: continue to crusade for good causes. And he got married, 531 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 4: and he admitted to his husbandnities, you haven't been listening 532 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 4: anyway that he felt stalled. He says, if I wanted 533 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 4: to do serious work on befing gay people, I needed 534 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 4: more than slogans in passion. 535 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: I needed an education. So he went back to school. 536 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 4: He got accepted at Columbia University School of General Studies. 537 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 4: I arrived at Columbia in my thirties with the earnestness 538 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 4: of a convert. I enrolled in courses like US Lesbian 539 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 4: and Gay History and Muskeet Muslim Masculinities, absorbing everything my 540 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: instructors had to say about queerness until I learned what 541 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 4: they actually meant by the term. Before Columbia, I would 542 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: have dismissed right wing complaints about queer, post colonial, critical race, 543 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: or other critical theories as culture war hysteria. I soon 544 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 4: came to understand that in Ivy League humanities classrooms, critical 545 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 4: theories aren't fringe ideas. They are foundational ideologies with real 546 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 4: world political ambitions. This is what I'm always talking about 547 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 4: with the postmodernist Neomarxi is trying to take over institutions. 548 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 4: He writes critical theory treats moral norms, scientific categories, and 549 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: even common sense as products of power. It tells us 550 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: that the only reason we believe certain things are true 551 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 4: is because it serves the interest of dominant groups for 552 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 4: us to believe them. It follows that liberation requires dismantling 553 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 4: inherited forms of knowledge. Queer theory applies this approach to 554 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: sexuality by framing sexual identity as a site of resistance. 555 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 4: One of the earliest readings I encountered was by the 556 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 4: theorist David Halperin, who defined queer as quote, whatever is 557 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 4: at odds with the normal, the legitimate, the dominant. That's 558 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 4: what queer means. I'm fighting against the man. And that's 559 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 4: why I'm going to depart from the text a little bit. 560 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 4: That's why so many middle school kids and high school 561 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: kids are so strongly encouraged to embrace one of the 562 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 4: fifty seven so called genders. I'm Demi this or Peter 563 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 4: Pan that or whatever. Get them to identify with queer 564 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 4: in whatever form these often pre sexual kids. 565 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: Want to get. 566 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: Them on the side of I'm queer, and then to 567 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 4: get back to the screed by the writer, then you 568 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 4: teach them that to be queer means to be whatever 569 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: is it odds with the normal. The legitimate, the dominant, 570 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: and embrace all the critical theory stuff, and then he 571 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 4: goes on, unless you have a comment. 572 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: At this point, Jack, I was just wondering where. 573 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: We would be if James Lindsay hadn't like started digging 574 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: into this thing. 575 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: Oh he's so good. Yeah, that's a great question. 576 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: Well then he points out that queer was a slur 577 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 4: against gay people, and it was reclaimed quote unquote in 578 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 4: the eighties by gay activists as a synonym for gay, 579 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 4: saying you can't hurt me by calling me queer, I'm 580 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 4: gonna call me queer. Most gay and lesbian Americans sink, 581 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 4: what minorities of long sought safety, dignity, stable relationships. 582 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: Et cetera. 583 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 4: In queer politics, By contrast, it encourages deviation from social norms. 584 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 4: It's definition of queer. Isn't that different from archie bunkers? 585 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: Seen through this lens, contemporary phenomenon that appear baffling begin 586 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 4: to make sense. The members of Queers for Palestine know 587 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 4: that Hamas would imprison or execute them for their sexuality, 588 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 4: but they share a common enemy in Israel and America, 589 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 4: liberal democracy, capitalism, national borders, enlightenment, notions of truth are 590 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 4: the primary enemy. Sexual politics is merely one front in 591 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: a much broader civilizational stuff. And then he talks about 592 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: how he grew uneasy with this when he realized what 593 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 4: was actually happening. He said, I was gay, I had 594 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 4: faced discrimination, I had fought for my rights. But now 595 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 4: that gay rights had become LGBTQ rights, I found myself 596 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 4: force teamed with a lot of people whose values were 597 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 4: nothing like mine. I didn't experience my life as a 598 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 4: rebellion against reality. I didn't want to be an identity insurgent. 599 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 4: I wanted to participate in the world as a normal person. 600 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: The most important thing I learned at Columbia was this, 601 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 4: I am gay, but I am not queer. My sexuality 602 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 4: doesn't obligate me to embrace a particular ideology or reject 603 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 4: a moral inheritance of the society that made my life possible. 604 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 4: Progress happens by acknowledging shared human values and working within 605 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 4: our reality, rather than declaring war on it. That is, 606 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 4: as they say these days, Ben Apple, for the win, 607 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 4: well written. 608 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: Ben, Yeah, that's pretty good. That's great. 609 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 4: That, my friends, is what's happening. It's not some sort 610 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 4: of right wingy Joe getty, fear or fantasy. 611 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: For the million time. These people wrote books, they said 612 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: exactly what they wanted to do. 613 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 4: Their names are on the spine, they're in your library. 614 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 4: What you are watching is what he just described. It's 615 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 4: the capture of institutions by a radical political ideology. 616 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: If you ever want to learn more about this, find 617 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: some of James Lindsay's James Lindsay's YouTube videos. It will 618 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: blow your mind. It'll change the way you look at 619 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: the world. 620 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 4: If you like books like I do, his book with 621 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 4: Helen Pluckrow's Cynical Theories is absolutely perfect. 622 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: So we heard from the astronauts yesterday and we can 623 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: check in on the Moon mission coming up. Among all 624 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: the things, stay here. 625 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: Yet, integrity, good engine, good control, and it's go for 626 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: the Moon. 627 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 7: For nearly six minutes, Ryan's main engine fired with six 628 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 7: thousand pounds of thrust to give the capsule a nine 629 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 7: hundred mile an hour boost, sending it and it's four 630 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 7: astronauts on a path right on the Moon. 631 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: Humanity has once again shown what we are capable of. 632 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 7: The translunar injection burn also sets up Orion's return to Earth. 633 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 7: Mission control can make small adjustments to the course to 634 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 7: set it up for re entry. 635 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: I need a little more showbiz out of that guy. 636 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 2: Humanity has once again demonstrated what we are capable of. 637 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: Here's a little more on the Moon report. 638 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: We all wanted to give a shout out to our 639 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: families first, because we are pretty far from Earth and 640 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: we have not gotten to say hi to them yet. 641 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 7: Overnight, the Artimist crew spoke to the media from space 642 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 7: about the journey so far. 643 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 8: Having just experienced incredible views of planet Earth and seeing 644 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 8: the entire planet out the window in one pane, knowing 645 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 8: that we're about to have some similar views of the 646 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 8: Moon in that same way is definitely getting me more 647 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 8: excited for it. 648 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: We're just getting started, you know. 649 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 7: We worked really hard and we have a lot of 650 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 7: mission left ahead of us. 651 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: One of the reasons I wanted to play that is 652 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: so you can hear how incredibly clear the conversation is. 653 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 4: That's funny, I was about to say, other than a 654 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 4: little background hiss, it sounds like they're in the same 655 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: room right. 656 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: With a spaceship hurtling toward the Moon. So I have 657 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: a feeling it's what's going to be way different from 658 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: this than a half a century ago. Is they're gonna 659 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: be like hovering around the moon and having a conversation 660 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: with Tony Diakoppel or whoever the heck, and with just 661 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: unbelievable h D pictures, And it's gonna be really cool. 662 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 4: I hope they can spare an hour or so to 663 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 4: like record stuff to be used in classrooms. No, yeah, 664 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: let's fire kids up about science and space exploration. 665 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: Of course. 666 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: I know you're really wondering in off our moon. Yeah, China, 667 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: I know you're wondering what kind of salad they're eating. 668 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 2: We have that info. 669 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 9: The four astronauts on the Orion spacecraft, which they have 670 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 9: named Integrity, woke up Thursday to the song's sleepyhead. The 671 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 9: crew started their second day after sleeping in four hour 672 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 9: shifts and exercising on a flywheel device to do squats, deadlifts, 673 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 9: and rowing, and they're settling into an extensive food menu 674 00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 9: that includes coffee, smoothies, kishe beef brisket, even mango, and 675 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 9: couscous with nuts. 676 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: Coo'scous with nuts? You say um coffee? Got a surprised 677 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: by that, Hm, I don't know why. 678 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think, you know, if you if you if you, 679 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: if you're a coffee person, you need the stimulant and 680 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: you get a little cranky if you don't get the 681 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: right amount or too much, or I just wouldn't think 682 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: you'd want to be messing with. 683 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 4: The body like that, even if I'm in space. A 684 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 4: little cup of java to start the day. Come on, now, 685 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 4: that's part of waking up. 686 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: Look out the window, first thing in the morning, after 687 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: your four hours of sleep, same day, different moon. 688 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 2: Jesus, give me some card another day, another one hundred. 689 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: Thousand miles, hit, a couple of coffee, and then you're 690 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: all excited about it. 691 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: Come on, who wants to do some experiments? I can't 692 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: wait to hear more. I want to hear more. I'm 693 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: loving this. 694 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 4: Let's have live team coverage of it and stop worrying 695 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 4: about crap that doesn't matter. 696 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: I think they get to the moon Monday, and that's 697 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: when we'll start getting the live coverage from right around 698 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: the moon. 699 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: You know, the moon is right up there, you can 700 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: see it. 701 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 4: It seems crazy it would take several days to get 702 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 4: to it, doesn't it. 703 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: At that speed, especially, but it's two hundred and fifty 704 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: five thousand miles away. 705 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 2: Allegedly all tells. 706 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: You this is all fake. Yeah, the audio is good. 707 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: They're in a Hollywood sound studio. 708 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 2: I've been listening to Kansas to Candas Owens. She's opened 709 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: my eyes exactly. 710 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: If you missed the segment of the podcast Armstrong and 711 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty