1 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. 2 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 3 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: I am Mike Spafford, joined as always by my trusted 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: colleague Wes Hodkotz. We're coming to you here from our 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: studios at Lambo Field to preview Monday Night football. It 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: will be the Green Bay Packers hosting the New Orleans 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: Saints this coming Monday Night and West. There are a 8 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: lot of ways to look at this game, and we'll 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: talk about, obviously, the playoff implications and all that for 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: the Packers. The Saints are coming in here at five 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: and nine, But the last thing you want to do 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: is look at the Saints as a five and nine 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: football team. 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: The easiest way to say. 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: It is, since the coaching change, this team is three 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: and two under interim coach Darren Rizzy, and those two 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: losses are by seven points to the Rams and by 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: one point to the Commanders, both of whom are right 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: in the thick of the playoff chase in the NFC. 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: This is a this is a Rams team that is 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: that may not be making the playoffs this year. I'm sorry, 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: a Saints team that may not be making the playoffs 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: this year, but they are going to give Green Bay 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: everything the Packers can handle. 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: You know what, you just made me realize, Michael, I 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: got Darren Rizzy's record wrong in this week's Game Program 27 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: because he lost last week to the Washington Commanders. He's 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: now three and two as an interim coach, not three 29 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 3: and one, like well, ja, here's three and one Monday. 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was. 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: He was a whisker a two point conversion play from 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: being four and one. But sorry, the drawback to game 33 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: program publication as opposed to our oddline work where. 34 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: Oh wait, we can just go and fix it. 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like my old school newspaper days. You're 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: gonna have to live with that one. Had Kowitz. No 37 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: my number one thing I said, I put it an 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 3: insider inbox this week. Darren Rizzy has this team playing 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: inspired football. 40 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: He does. 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 4: They are banged up. 42 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: They have had a lot of injuries, particularly on the 43 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball, at premier positions, at key positions. 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: But they still fight and I think in the second 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 3: half of that game against Washington it was a pretty 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: lethargic start. They make the switch over to Spencer Rattler, 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: it just seemed like they were more competitive from that 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: point and in again, this is a team that technically 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: is not out of the hunt yet because of how 50 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: things have sort of shuffled in the NFC South. So 51 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: I imagine that's probably gonna be their rallying cry throughout 52 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: this week is Hey, let's just win football games. Darren 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: Rizzy would love to be a head coach. There are 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: guys that are gonna want to play for him. Yeah, 55 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: let's put on a show. That being said, it would 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: be disingenuous for me to act like this is, you know, 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions or the Minnesota Vikings. The Saints have 58 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: some pretty gaping holes at a lot of different positions. 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: They have guys that you can hurt you but you know, 60 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: you take a guy like Mark Weisvelde Scantling for example, 61 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: and Quez obviously did it here for a long time 62 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: explosive player. He was released by Buffalo early this season, 63 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: and now he finds himself as a starting receiver for 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: the Saints. It just kind of shows you the way 65 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: that this thing is sort of unfolded for them this season. 66 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: Ye Alvin Kamara is still very dangerous on the ground, 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: but there's been games when he's been a non factor. 68 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 4: Too. 69 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: He is their leading receiver so far on this season. 70 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: Foster Moreau a guy that I respect at the tight 71 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: end possession. Defensively, a lot of veterans on that side 72 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: of things. Green Bay is still a heavy favorite going 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: into this thing on Monday Night, and it's because of 74 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: the way they perform, the consistency that they've had, and 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: the fact that they're getting this thing back at lambeau 76 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: Field winning. You're in right, that's pretty much the mantra. Yep, 77 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: the Packers have to take care of business. 78 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it is a take care of business game 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: for green Bay. Looking at at the Saints, since Rizzy 80 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: took over as the interim coach, you mentioned most of 81 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: their injuries have been on the offensive side of the ball. 82 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of shuffling of personnel at quarterback, 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: at running back, at wide receiver, everywhere. They've only scored. 84 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: The Saints have only scored more than twenty points once 85 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: since Rizzy took over, but they have not allowed more 86 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: than twenty one point right in a game. Defensively, since 87 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: Rizzy took over, the backbone of this Saints team right 88 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: now is its defense. They have thirty seven sacks on 89 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: the season. They have eleven different players who've contributed to 90 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: those sack numbers. Of course, everybody's talking about the eight 91 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: sacks that they got last week against Jayden Daniels and 92 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders, when, as you mentioned, they made the 93 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: switch at quarterback from Jake Hayner to Spencer Rattler. They 94 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: were down seventeen to nothing. They came all the way back, 95 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: but they end up losing twenty to nineteen because instead 96 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 2: of playing for overtime on their final touchdown, they decided 97 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: to go for two and go for the win. 98 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: They didn't get it, so Washington survived it. 99 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: But this, uh, this Saints defense, they they're to steal 100 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: a term from Larry mccaern, they're a salty bunch. It's 101 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: it's and it's yeah, you know it's a veteran like 102 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: Cam Jordan's in the middle of it, of course, yes, 103 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: but there are a lot of other veterans on this 104 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: defense as well that have that have been around the 105 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: block in the NFL, and these guys, these guys know 106 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: how to play defense. 107 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: I don't know how much you've dove in all this. 108 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: I was completely I'm blown away by exactly what is 109 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: going on with the Saints defense, because you're right, they've 110 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: played really well. 111 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: They got off to a terrible start to the season. 112 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: Right. They're still thirtieth in total yards, they're twenty seventh 113 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: in rushing yards, they're twenty eighth against the pass. They 114 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: are third to last in goal to go. There are 115 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: so many things statistically that tell you this is a 116 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: bad defense, but the eye test is different. And when 117 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: you look at you know you have a guy like 118 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: is it Brian in the middle of that defense, Brian 119 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 3: Berz Braziz. 120 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: I never could pronounce it. 121 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: I know it's a true. 122 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: It's a truth every year. Yes, he's there. 123 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: He's their sack leader, Brian Berzee. 124 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: You're getting a guy at a three tech position that's 125 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: getting you seven and a half sacked. Carl Granderson has 126 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: been doing it at a high level forever. Chase Young has 127 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: taken some ridic some criticism this year, but still has 128 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 3: five and a half sacks or five sacks this year. 129 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 3: Tyron Matthew, the honey Badger is still back there. To 130 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: Mario Davis, I mean this is and as you mentioned already, 131 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 3: Cam Jordan, this is a name defense. These are premier 132 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 3: players and a lot of veterans, and some of them 133 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: are getting, including Davis, a little longer in the tooth now, 134 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: but they're competitive and I feel like when Rizzy took 135 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: this thing over, and obviously a guy that has done it, 136 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: one of the best special teams coordinators in the last decade, 137 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: the last two decades in the National Football League, has 138 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: been waiting for that opportunity. He finally gets it, and 139 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: it just seemed like guys have responded to his leadership. 140 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 3: So keeping points off the board has been critical for them. 141 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: It's so one thing that the Saints have been okay 142 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: throughout the course of this year, and certainly going up 143 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: against the Packers offense that has now had was it 144 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 3: four or five games in a row with thirty plus points, 145 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: that's gonna be a big tipping point in this matchup. 146 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: It just when you look at things statistically and you know, 147 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: we don't cover the Saints, We're not there every day, 148 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: we're not on the New Orleans beat. But it just 149 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: seems like something changed with this defense when Dennis Allen 150 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: was dismissed and when Darren Rizzy took over a head coach, 151 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: And I don't know what it is. I can't necessarily 152 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: explain it. But you look at things statistically and it's 153 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: very different. I mean, in this league, as competitive as 154 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: it is, any defense that can go five consecutive games 155 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: and not give up more than twenty one points, that's 156 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: a defense that's doing something right. But yes, when you 157 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: look at the overall season, because of some absolutely horrendous 158 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: games they had defensively earlier this year, their numbers overall 159 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: for the season defensively are not going to scare anybody. 160 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: So it's hard to figure out. It's hard to figure 161 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: out in that sense, other than to say that something 162 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: changed with the way this defense has been playing since 163 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: since Rizzy took over. 164 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: Well and man point this out too, sure so leading 165 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: up to Dennis Allen being dismissed in Dennis allen obviously 166 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: history of defense, there, yeah, twenty six points allowed, twenty 167 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: six points allowed, fifty one points allowed in a shellacking 168 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: at the hands of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, thirty three 169 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: points allowed, twenty six points allowed, twenty three points allowed. 170 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: Since Rizzy has taken over seventeen fourteen to twenty one eleven, 171 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: and that was good enough to beat the New York Giants, 172 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: and then twenty last week against Jaden Daniels in a 173 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: Washington offense that has lit up a lot of squads 174 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: this year, and that had jumped out to a seventeen 175 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: to nothing lead, and then but Washington could not put 176 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: the Saints away. Yea, only after the seventeen to nothing lead, 177 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: Washington managed a field goal three points for the rest 178 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: of the football Yeah. So, and then I did see 179 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: a stat too. I think Alante Taylor in their slot cornerback. 180 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: Someone had mentioned this on Twitter has given up a 181 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: lot of production this year though, and that that's another 182 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: possession that you know, you look at. You know, Jaden 183 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 3: Reid potentially some of these options in the middle field 184 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: something Packers might potentially try to take advantage of. 185 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: Well, on the offensive side we've been talking about, they 186 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: made the switch from Jake Hayner, who had been designated 187 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: to start in place of Derek Carr, who has a 188 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: is it a left hand injury, It's an injury to 189 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: his non throwing hand. But hayn really really struggled against Washington. 190 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: They made the switch to Rattler, who had also played 191 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: some earlier in the season. He's got one hundred and 192 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: twenty pass attempts now on the year, as a rookie, 193 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: was a rookie fifth thrond draft pick. A couple of 194 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: things stand out. One is that he's only thrown two 195 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: interceptions in those one hundred and twenty pass attempts, but 196 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: he's been sacked fourteen times in one hundred and twenty 197 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: pass attempts. Those those numbers kind of kind of stand 198 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: out to you. One very positive, one very negative there, 199 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: And you mentioned Alvin Kamara. Marquis Veldiz Scantling. Kamara is 200 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: just shy of fifteen hundred total yards on the season, 201 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: combining the rushing and receiving, and he is the team's 202 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: leading rusher. He is the team's leading receiver yardage wise. 203 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: But he's also injured right now and his status seems 204 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: very much up in the air, so much so that 205 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: the Saints just signed former Chiefs running back Clyde Edwards Hilaire, 206 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: the former first round pick, to their practice squad. If 207 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: Kamara can't go and they need some more depth at 208 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: running back, Edwards Hilaire possibly could be elevated Monday night. 209 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of there's a lot of 210 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: moving parts there, and with regard to MVS, he's only 211 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: caught fourteen passes thus far since joining the Saints, but 212 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: four of them are for touchdowns and he's averaging twenty 213 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: five yards a cat. Yeah, this is a guy, as 214 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: we know from his time in Green Bay, the speed 215 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: that he brings, He threatens defenses down the field, and 216 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: he will make big plays if if you're not on 217 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: your p's and q's with the coverage of this guy. 218 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: So really hard to say exactly what the Saints' offense 219 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: is going to look like coming out at Lambellfield. 220 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: On Monday Night. 221 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: The one thing we do know, at least as certain 222 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: as we can be, is that it will be Spencer Rattler. 223 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: And this is a young man who's trying to establish 224 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: himself as a quarterback in the National Football League, as 225 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: Darren Rizzy is trying to establish himself as a legitimate 226 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 2: head coaching candidate in the NFL. So a lot of motivation, 227 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: even for a team that just has five wins, right. 228 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 3: Ratler kind of reminds me of Matt Barkley from a 229 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: number of years ago, where I think going into last year, 230 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: his final year at South Carolina, everybody was expecting, Hey, 231 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: this is the guy that could potentially stamp himself as 232 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: an early pick, first round, second round, and then what 233 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: ends up happening is we get those run of those 234 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: six quarterbacks going the first twelve, and then Ratler and 235 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: the rest of the group is waiting for basically another 236 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: forty eight hours to get picked. Yeah, he ends up 237 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: falling to New Orleans, but still a lot of pedigree 238 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: there and a guy that was a gamer played some 239 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: big games for them over the course of the years. 240 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: Over at South Carolina. The weapons around him, though, is 241 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: the issue, and as you touch Kamara obviously banged up. 242 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: They lost Taysom Hill already. He'll had a lot of 243 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: history of injuries at BYU. I mean when people talk 244 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: about him not really having a position entering the NFL, 245 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: that was one piece of why he went on draft 246 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: and eventually signed here as a college free agent. It 247 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: was also the fact of how many times he ended 248 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 3: up finishing the year injured and not being able to 249 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: be at the end of that season with the Cougars. 250 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: So he's gone. Chris Olave just had a nightmare season 251 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: not able to get to this point. Still they wouldn't 252 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: I don't think they still have actually ruled him out 253 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: for the year. But it's tough being the position that 254 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 3: they're in. MBS was a savvy signing for them. He 255 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: obviously is a guy that, as you said, could take 256 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: a top off the defense, a Packers defense that very 257 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: much prides itself on being able to keep coverage over 258 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: the top of their defense that they're not going to 259 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: get seventy five year touchdowns thrown against them. 260 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 4: Jamal Williams is still in the equation for the New 261 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 4: Orleans Saints. 262 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: He could potentially be a lead back if it works 263 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: out that way and you don't have Kamara in this thing. 264 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: Lucas Patrick is on their starting offensive line. He has 265 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: missed time this year due to injuries, but now has 266 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: since return. So it's just been this musical chairs on 267 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball for New Orleans. And 268 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: obviously you're seeing it settle out how it's settled out 269 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: to this point. 270 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well, let's dive right into it here. 271 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: Monday night, come kickoff, it's possible the Packers will have 272 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: their playoff spot clinched, although it seems somewhat unlikely just 273 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: because of the fact that the Falcons, who have now 274 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: made the quarterback switch from Kirk Cousins to rookie Michael 275 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: Pennix Junior. But they're playing a Giants team that has 276 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 2: lost what is it ten in a row? 277 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, in a row, something like that. 278 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: So if the Falcons beat the Giants, the Packers will 279 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: not have their playoff spot clinch. They will need to 280 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: beat the Saints in order to clinch it. So what 281 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: are the keys to victory do you feel in this 282 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: game for Green Bay? 283 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost, just keep putting up points. As 284 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: you talked about with New Orleans, the issues are having 285 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: on the offensive side of the ball. They might catch 286 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: you here and there, but especially if Kamara is not 287 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: involved in this thing or limited in this thing, green 288 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: Bay just I don't know if you need to score 289 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: thirty again, but you probably got to score twenty and 290 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 3: feel good about and protect the football defensively. You have 291 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: to get after Rattler. You just have to. Sam Howell 292 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 3: is a veteran now, he's been in a league for 293 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: a number of years. But Green Bay just did not 294 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: allow him to get comfortable at all in the second half. 295 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: And see he looked when Sam Howell entered that game 296 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: in Seattle on Sunday night, he looked uncomfortable from the 297 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: very fift snap that he took and he never got 298 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: comfortable at all, and a lot of that had to 299 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: do with what the Packers were doing defensively upfront. 300 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: But for green Bay, I think it really it comes 301 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: down to just being able to execute the offense, get 302 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: off to a fast start, use the conditions to your advantage. 303 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: You are you know it's going to be a Monday 304 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: night green Bay, Wisconsin going up against a team that 305 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: plays in a dome in the southern portion of the 306 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: state of the United States. I feel like it's all 307 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: there for green Bay. Honestly, it's just it comes back 308 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: to you just cannot overlook these type of opponents. There 309 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: was times where I said this to you, as soon 310 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: as I saw what the line was for this game, 311 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: you go back to I believe it was either twenty 312 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: twelve or twenty sixteen, but I think it might have 313 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: been twenty twelve where Jacksonville was coming to green Bay. 314 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: The Packers were like sixteen point favorites, and that was 315 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: a knockdown, drag out battle against I think it was 316 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: Chad Henny and they couldn't get any momentum in that 317 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: game and they won it, but I think it was 318 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: by like four points. I'm not saying you have to 319 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: go out there and just absolutely demolish this team, But 320 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: if you look at it, this is going to be 321 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: as well as it sets up for you down the stretch. 322 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: You have this game and then you're going to Minnesota 323 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: on a six day week. You have a little bit 324 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: more time to get refreshed after you know, a really 325 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: taxing trip out to Seattle. Just come out and do 326 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: what you have to do against a team that has 327 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: really struggled for most of the season. 328 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for me, I look at this the 329 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: fact that the Saints and that pass rush they did 330 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: so much damage against Washington and Jaden Daniels that got 331 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: the Saints back into that game. I look at Josh 332 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: Jacobs and the running game here as a really big 333 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: key because and I know, I just talked about how 334 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: looking at the Saints' statistics defensively for the entire season 335 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: can be misleading because of how different they've been since 336 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: Rizzy took over. But even as much as things have 337 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: changed with Rizzy, the Saints are still allowing one hundred 338 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: and thirty four rushing yards per game on the Over 339 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: the course of the season, they really stepped up their 340 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: run defense against Washington. They actually forced Daniels the quarterback, 341 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: to be the leading rusher for Washington in that game. 342 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: But Washington also doesn't have a running back like Josh 343 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: Jelcips And I think as much as the Green Bay 344 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: Packers offensive line, which has been playing pretty darn well 345 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: of late, really for the last couple of months, I 346 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: would say, with the exception of the first half against 347 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: the first quarter and a quarter and a half against 348 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: Detroit a couple weeks back, other than that little rough stretch, 349 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: the Packers offensive line has done a really, really good job, 350 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: and I think they can protect Jordan Love from this 351 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: pass rush. But I think the even better pass protection 352 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: for Jordan Love is going to be to get the 353 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: running game going. Yeah, and to make the Saints make 354 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: the Saints have to commit more personnel, commit more attention 355 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: to stopping Josh Jacobs and the running backs. And the 356 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: other thing I'll say as a key to victory in 357 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: this game is don't relax. 358 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 359 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: Washington got up on these guys seventeen to nothing, and 360 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: the next thing they knew they couldn't run the football. 361 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels is getting sacked all over the place, and 362 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler comes in off the bench and starts slinging 363 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: the ball all over the place, and suddenly the Saints 364 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: are back in the game in the middle of the 365 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and Washington's hanging on for dear life to 366 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: win a game that they thought they had at one 367 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: at halftime, because it looked like they did have it 368 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: one at halftime. But that's not how this league works, 369 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: and it'll be certainly be different with the Saints going 370 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: on the road. Now that game was in New Orleans, 371 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: it was it was a home game for the Saints 372 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 2: last week. But you just can't whatever is going on 373 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: in this game early on. I expect the Packers to 374 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: come out throw some punches early and get a lead 375 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: on these guys. 376 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: But don't relax. 377 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 3: Just keep punching and before we transition over to looking 378 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: at the other games, winning on special teams too, is 379 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: gonna be paramounting this. Rashid Shihed is one of the 380 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: in my opinion, one of the most underrated punt returners 381 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: in this league. 382 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: He's a dangerous play. 383 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: He is absolutely dangerous. He's returning one for a touchdown 384 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: again this season. I think he's averaging fifteen yards per 385 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: return Obviously a big punt return is going to factor 386 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: into that. But I when I saw him last year, 387 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: I just I this guy is a dynamic football player. 388 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: They'll use him a little bit on offense too. He 389 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: gets sprinkled in there as well. Somebody have to keep 390 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 3: an eye on. 391 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: But didn't he beat the Packers for a long touchdown 392 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: pass last year the game the game here at Lambeau 393 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 2: he caught a. 394 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: Long TV you're in that really rougher. I don't remember. 395 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: I think it was. 396 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: I think it was from Car before Car ended up 397 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: leaving that game with an injury. But yeah, he's he's 398 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: a fast, dude, dangerous player and he hit the Packers 399 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: over the top for a touchdown last season. 400 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta imagine he'll be having that back in 401 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: his mind too, coming back to Lambeufield looking for another explosive. 402 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well take care of some sponsored business here. 403 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: Oh the other thing I was going to say too, 404 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: for those who don't know, And it's great that you 405 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: brought up special teams. Darren Rizzy's a special teams coach. 406 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: He's one of the best in the league and has 407 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: been one of the best in the league for a 408 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: long time, So that is certainly an area the Packers 409 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: need to be on top of heading into this one. 410 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: Serious XMNFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to 411 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need. 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We have reached the 420 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: time in the year of Saturday football. 421 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: In the NFL. 422 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: We've almost reached the time of the year of Wednesday football. 423 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's next week. Next week is Wednesday football on 424 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 2: Christmas Day. The four teams that are playing on Christmas 425 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: Day are the four teams that are playing on Saturday. 426 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: The NFL has set up this schedule so that nobody 427 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: would have a Sunday to Wednesday turnaround. They just would 428 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: have they go only Sunday to Saturday to Wednesday, so 429 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 2: they're playing three games in eleven days. I just want 430 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: to get your thoughts quickly on the Saturday games because 431 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: both of them are have some pretty interesting implications in 432 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 2: the AFC. Houston's at Kansas City and Pittsburgh is at 433 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: Baltimore in the AFC North, should be some couple of 434 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: pretty good contests. 435 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Houston is in this like somebody had to 436 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 3: win the AFC South, and hell, it's gonna be us, 437 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 3: you know, it's just the way it's sort of been. 438 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 3: And and certainly Kansas City some questions here. 439 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 4: This is. 440 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: I was talking to my friend Scott Vincy about this 441 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: on my way in, and I think, by and large, 442 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is going to be okay after everything happened 443 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: last week. So I was like, but this is still 444 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: a really tough turn for a guy that got banged up. Yeah, 445 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: you know a few days earlier where you're gonna play 446 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 3: on Saturday, then you're gonna come back in your face 447 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers on Wednesday on Thanksgi or on Thanksgiving 448 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 3: on Christmas. 449 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 4: My goodness, you just. 450 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: Don't want the calendar to keep what we're. 451 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: No, I'm ready, I just want more Turkey, but you 452 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: know Pittsburgh and Baltimore a lot of implications in that 453 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: as well. This lined up really well in the NFL. 454 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 3: Obviously knew what they were doing. You have a guy 455 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: like Mike Tomlin who's never had a losing season before. 456 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: You have the reigning MVP in Lamar Jackson, Kansas City 457 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: is always going to be a draw, and people thought, 458 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: I mean in some regards tech the Texas have been 459 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: kind of a disappointment this year, as weird as it 460 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: sounds to say about a nine win team with three 461 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: to go, but they had really bend the world beater 462 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 3: I think everybody expected after last year with CJ. 463 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: Stroud agree. 464 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: So they set it up perfectly in how this aligns. 465 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 3: But the thing that's funny about it is, including the 466 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: Denver Los Angeles Chargers game on Thursday, there actually aren't 467 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: a lot of great Sunday games because of all this. 468 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: The way it works out and into some regard, I 469 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: guess you could say Monday's game just based on what 470 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: the Saints record is. So but yeah, it'll be uh, 471 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: it'll be a lot of fun. And yeah, two weeks here, 472 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 3: we're gonna have a lot of football on a lot 473 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: of days I wanted. 474 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: To ask you too. 475 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: You brought up Denver against the LA Chargers on Thursday Night. 476 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: You know how I always like to talk about, Okay, 477 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 2: how is a team gonna respond to what just happened? 478 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 479 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: How do how do the Chargers respond on Thursday night 480 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 2: football to that absolute debacle of a performance against the 481 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That happens? That happened. Now the Chargers, 482 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: you know, they're still in pretty good shape obviously to 483 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: get a playoff spot in the AFC, But man, that 484 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: was that was an ugly loss to Tampa Bay. And 485 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: now they have to turn around on a short week 486 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: and play division rival who is sitting ahead of them, 487 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: and with the rookie quarterback in bo Nicks got Denver 488 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: and Sean Payton headed to the postseason. 489 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 4: So here's the thing about the Chargers. 490 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 3: Yes, you got the Jim Harbaugh effect right now, you 491 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: got that rub but this is a team that has 492 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: faltered down the stretch in the Justin Herbert era. Yes, 493 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: and yeah, as much as they want to finally get 494 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: back to the playoffs, if you end up in that 495 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 3: seven seed, congratulations, you're facing Kansas City or Buffalo probably 496 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: Buffalo right now, not to say you can't beat them 497 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 3: any given Sunday, Saturday, whatever, Wednesday, Wednesday, Monday. I think 498 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 3: there's a Monday playoff game this year, Yeah, there is, 499 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: But you still want to set yourself up better for this. 500 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: You're one game behind Denver, You're one game behind Baltimore. 501 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: You could potentially, I think you much rather face Houston 502 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: or Pittsburgh, depending on how that shuffles out. 503 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 4: So a lot on the line there. 504 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: I just love the way the AFC lines up though, 505 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 3: where it's the Chargers are at eight and six. Green 506 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 3: Bay needs to win to get to eleven wins on 507 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: Monday to clinch a playoff spot. Meanwhile, the Chargers are 508 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: two games ahead with eight wins in the AFC for 509 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: the seventh seed against ahead of three teams who are 510 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: all six and eight, who are the only ones that 511 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 3: are still eligible for the postseason in the AFC. 512 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 2: And I did see, I saw, and I don't have 513 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: it all in front of me, but there is a 514 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: scenario of games. I believe it's like there's four results 515 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: that if they go a certain way this week, that 516 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 2: with two games left to go in the regular season, 517 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: we will know the seven AFC playoff teams. It's possible 518 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: that after this week now the seeding won't be all 519 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: sorted out. But it's possible after this week that the 520 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 2: seven teams will be mathematically determined and everybody else in 521 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: the AFC will be eliminated with two weeks left to go, 522 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: which would be pretty It would be unprecedented, certainly since 523 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: the playoffs expanded to seven teams, but o three years ago, 524 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: and it's unprecedented in quite a while now. 525 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: Granted, it may not happen. 526 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: There may still be some teams alive in the AFC 527 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: after this week, but it's possible that it'll all be decided. 528 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 3: So it's almost like maybe you didn't need seventeen regular 529 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: season games to decide. 530 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: These almost maybe, g do you think? 531 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: But hey, before we go and talk about anything else, 532 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 3: let's just talk about how great Aaron Rodgers is and 533 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 3: now the Green Bay Packers, you know, old QB twelve 534 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: slash one former one. We can take care of business 535 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 3: this Sunday. I would behoove his old team too, right. 536 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: You hold you're holding your breath on that one. 537 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: No, not at all. 538 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: I mean I think it's I think it's possible the 539 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 3: Jets could beat the Rams. I mean, the Rams look 540 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 3: very human in that game against the forty nine. 541 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: That's the interesting thing because I mentioned last week, Okay, 542 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: how does how does the Ram how does the Rams 543 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 2: defense respond to, you know, getting lit up by Josh Allen. Yeah, 544 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: and they survived that game forty four to forty two. 545 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 2: And everybody's talking about how dangerous the Rams are. Yep, 546 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: all these points they're putting up, and I was sort 547 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 2: of looking at it from the other side, well, how 548 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: is there? Where are they at on defense? Then they 549 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: go out on Thursday night and their defense looks great. 550 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: They completely befuddle brock Purty for four quarters, but their 551 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: offense can't do anything. They don't even get a touchdown. 552 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: But they win a Thursday night game twelve to six 553 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: or twelve to nine. 554 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: Or whatever the heck twelve to six. 555 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: Twelve to six was the final score there. 556 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: But only game this year with no touchdowns, that's right. Meanwhile, 557 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 3: the Jets that second half Aaron Rodgers DeVante Adams a 558 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: had no catches in the first half and then finished 559 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: with what it was, nine for one ninety eight and 560 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 3: a couple touch and a couple of touchdowns and then 561 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 3: obviously to I want you to touch on this quick 562 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: before we go. 563 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 4: Yeh Minnesota Seattle. Yeah, because that was the next one 564 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: I was going to you touched. 565 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 3: On it and path to the playoffs. I thought this 566 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: was really an interesting outlook on how this game should go. 567 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: What you're thinking about it? 568 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, is the number one 569 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: question I've gotten this week. 570 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 571 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 4: One. 572 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: I mean, one of the scenarios for the Packers to 573 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: clinch their playoff spot without getting their eleventh win would 574 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: be for the Falcons to lose and for either the 575 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: Rams or the Seahawks to lose, right, correct, So, but 576 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: I think it still really behooves Packers fans more to 577 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: cheer for Seattle to beat Minnesota. I have to believe 578 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: the Packers are going to get at least get their 579 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: eleventh win, if not their twelfth, by the end of 580 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: the regular season, and maybe thirteen. So I still think 581 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: Packers fans are better off rooting for Seattle to rooting 582 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: for Seattle to beat Minnesota, and which sort of improves 583 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: Green Bay's chances then of maybe being able to overtake 584 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: the Vikings in the wild card seating in the NFC 585 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: and We'll have to see, have to see how that 586 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: sorts itself out. 587 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: But a big game. 588 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 2: In terms of the bounce back idea for Seattle after 589 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: what the Packers did to them in their home stadium. 590 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: Now Minnesota's going out out there, they get another home 591 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: game against another playoff contender. It sounds like Gino Smith 592 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 2: is going to be okay, but now sharbon A's hurt. Yeah, 593 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: but now they're number one, well number two, but who 594 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 2: had been there become their number one with Kenneth Walker out, 595 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 2: So where Seattle is going to be offensively still still 596 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: a little bit up in the air. And then uh, 597 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 2: a key game as far as the NFC East goes. Uh. 598 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: Philadelphia is at Washington. Philadelphia won the first meeting between 599 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: these two teams, that was on a Thursday night earlier 600 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: this season. Philadelphia, I believe, just needs to win this 601 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: game and they clinched the division champions Trek, they win 602 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: and they clinched the division. Washington, it's not even really 603 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: so much necessarily about trying to keep the division title 604 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: hopes alive, but about playoff positioning and trying to for Washington, 605 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: trying to hold off whoever might be the runner up 606 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: in the NFC West in terms of in terms of 607 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: a wild card spot there. So that's a that's a 608 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: really big game for Washington at Hole against the division leader. 609 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 610 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: Huge, And certainly it's the type of matchup where if 611 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: you can win it, yeah you're out of that. You're 612 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: still probably out of the division race. But I mean 613 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: that they've been looking for a signature win. We hear 614 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: this all the time about the Packers, will the winning records, 615 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: beating teams with winning records. This would be a huge 616 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: feather in Jaden Daniel's cap if he could solve that defense. 617 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: No doubt what Vic Fangio has done this year and 618 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 3: the swagger that has been reinstilled in Philly. I mean, dude, 619 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: how rough was the end of last season And now 620 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 3: suddenly you got Jalen Hurts being able to actually answer 621 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: some of his critics with the passing game. You got 622 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 3: their defense looking I mean, whether it's Cooper Cup or 623 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: Quinnon Mitchell a Cooper Cup, oh my god, Cooper Dijon. 624 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: I got to stop talking and do something else. I 625 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: like to get some sleep, but I think that's the 626 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: other thing too out. But but the defense looks good. 627 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: I mean they are strong, and that's gonna be a 628 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: real difficult Pu's. 629 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: Got that MVP candidate in the backfield there too, And 630 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: says John Barkley that you know, it's it's funny because that, 631 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: honestly might be the really the difference in how Philadelphia 632 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: has truly bounced back from that disastrous end to last 633 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: season is Saquon Barkley is the anchor of that whole 634 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: offense in the backfield. 635 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: Now. 636 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: He was the new guy they brought in, and he 637 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: has lived up to everything they needed him to. 638 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: Be and more. 639 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: Quite frankly, he's a He is a star and a 640 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: legitimate MVP candidate. Along with a guy like Josh Allen. 641 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: There are really good running backs in the league that 642 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: are homegrown. It is just wild how many guys have 643 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: really balled out after switching teams this offseason. Yeah, like 644 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: even Aaron Jones going to Minnesota. Aaron's on the precipice 645 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: here of getting another thousand yard season, I think his 646 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: four thousand yard season. 647 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: And we've seen the guy here, Josh Jacobs coming over 648 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: from the Raiders and racking up another thousand yard season. 649 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones has played great this year and nobody even 650 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: talks about it because how well Jacobs has performed right 651 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: and rightfully. So I don't I love Aaron. I think 652 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: he's doing a great job at Minnesota. The way that 653 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: the offense is structured this year, it's a better fit 654 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: for Josh Shacops and what he's been able to do 655 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: the goal and he has what five or six one 656 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 3: yard touchdowns now this season on the goal line. Alis, 657 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: Do you want to have any quick thoughts on Jacksonville, 658 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: Vegas before we head out? No? 659 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: Do you know, Okay, I just want to have it 660 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: out there. 661 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 662 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: I figured, all right, well, Marlos. 663 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: Things that the Raiders are legitimately going to be like 664 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: doing what I mean, obviously everybody's competing you want to win, 665 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: but they would probably really like to have. 666 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 4: Shador Sanders instead. 667 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: I would imagine, yeah, that there's gonna be There's gonna 668 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: be a fair amount of attention this weekend. As you mentioned, 669 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: not a whole lot of great Sunday games because of. 670 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: The way the schedule fell. 671 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot of attention on NFL 672 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: Twitter and elsewhere on Sunday the race for the number 673 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: one draft pick. 674 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and how and. 675 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: Who's who's going to be winning and losing as we 676 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: head into the final couple weeks of the regular season, 677 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: but mark your calendar's fall, folks. The twenty twenty five 678 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: NFL Draft, speaking of the race for the number one pick, 679 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: is coming to Green Bay. Be among the thousands of 680 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: football fans cheering on their team's picks by joining us 681 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: April twenty four through April twenty six of twenty twenty five. 682 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: Visit green Bay dot com slash Draft twenty five for 683 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: more information, and with that, we'll call it a rap 684 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: on this edition of Packers Unscripted. I'm sure to follow 685 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: all of our coverage of the team and everything from 686 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: Monday night's game against the Saints at Lambeufield. We'll have 687 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: it for you on Packers dot com. For Wes, I'm Mike. 688 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in, everybody. We will see you 689 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: next time.