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Speaker 1: My next guest. He's on the phone right now and

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to interview him. He is an NBA All Star,

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Speaker 1: tech investor and New York Times bestselling author of The

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Speaker 1: Sixth Man. The swing Man was an All Star NBA

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Speaker 1: All Star in twenty twelve, and it's been named to

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Speaker 1: Founder's MVP. I remember that year, Tara tarab And was

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Speaker 1: a key component to the basketball basketball success then the

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Speaker 1: world championship run of the Golden State Wars. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: to money making conversation. Andre Eagu Dollar. How you doing, sir,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good? My friends? So you you sold alert here? Andre?

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Speaker 1: You know what what city? Or Yeah, my friend, I'm

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Speaker 1: an elliot the moment, getting a little UM work done

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Speaker 1: on the body, listening a little bit and uh getting

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Speaker 1: some PRP plasma replacement UH treatment for the body the

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Speaker 1: uh you know, for the upcoming season, trying to get

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Speaker 1: ready um and have another successful one of it. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know the interesting thing about in part of your

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Speaker 1: really have to look at your body, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: heard when I was reading about uh Lebron James, he

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Speaker 1: trainers fly with him. What exactly do do? You? What

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Speaker 1: exactly do? When? When did the mindset that you have

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Speaker 1: to take care of your body start? Because I read

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Speaker 1: your book which is called the Six Mans six the

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Speaker 1: Sixth Man, and it started your journey, you know, in Springfield, Illinois,

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Speaker 1: and then you go through high school. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: really started earlier elementary, middle school. You're talking about your

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Speaker 1: brother Frank. And then you get to College of Arizona.

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Speaker 1: You almost went to Arkansas and then uh Nola Richards

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Speaker 1: So when did you start taking care of your body? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I say, you know, you start having those conversations early

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Speaker 1: in the league. I mean the league tries to practice

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Speaker 1: put top of the line products with it. You know, uh,

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Speaker 1: cleaning the tires, you're trying to use the best tier cleaner.

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Speaker 1: So in terms of just my body, UM, I start

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Speaker 1: And it took me, uh some years to find kind

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Speaker 1: Once you start with that layer, you get really in

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Speaker 1: Gene and talks in terms of you know what genes

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Speaker 1: What what? What? What? What? What image do you want

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Speaker 1: You know, it may only be the team first round exit,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm trying to enhance anyone that I'm around.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I invest in the company and they say, well, us,

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Speaker 1: So for me, it was that it was a challenge.

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Speaker 1: my man entitled The book is entitled The Sixth Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking to andre igu Dollar I'm on the phone

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Speaker 1: with They call him a six maid, and some people

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Speaker 1: call a swing man because he can be all over

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