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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is John the og story

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Speaker 1: from the sponsors that keep this show propped up like

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Speaker 1: a little house. Oh yeah, I caught my fiance cheating

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Speaker 1: with my father. Oh daddy, No, so me. Twenty seven

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Speaker 1: male fiance, twenty six female, call her Elle, my father,

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Speaker 1: fifty two males. So those are the characters, twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: twenty six, and fifty two. And we're gonna call el

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Speaker 1: Lauren for ease of remembering, and we'll.

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Speaker 3: Call Oh, I'm sorry, you know what, the same name

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Speaker 3: popped in my head.

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Speaker 2: I think I can't even lie.

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Speaker 1: And father we'll call him Brad, and mother fifty f

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Speaker 1: we'll call her Rachel.

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Speaker 4: I knew it. I knew you're gonna say Rachel.

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Speaker 1: Like many who have had something like this happen, I

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Speaker 1: never thought something like this would happen to me.

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Speaker 2: Can't blame me, but here we are.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Throwaway five five six

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Speaker 1: never used Reddit, but I've seen stories from here on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: So I thought i'd give this a shot for any

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Speaker 1: advice you all could give me from listening to some

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Speaker 1: other stories. You all like backstories, so I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be clear and precise as I can be. But it's

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Speaker 1: only been a week, so if I start to lose

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Speaker 1: it during telling of the story, I am sorry. Lauren

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Speaker 1: and I met in her freshman year of college. We

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Speaker 1: were both dorming in the same building where we eventually met.

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Speaker 1: We later found out we lived two towns away from

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Speaker 1: each other, so whenever we went home, I let her

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Speaker 1: drive with me. Oh a little right, yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: You go right in the back seat. Fifteen minutes yeah

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Speaker 1: or less or less I seconds seconds ago, go back there.

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Speaker 1: It only added like twenty minutes, so is no big deal.

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Speaker 1: And that's, you know, nineteen minutes of boning one minute

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Speaker 1: of time. After multiple trips and hanging out at school,

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Speaker 1: we started to date nice. I have a close knit family,

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Speaker 1: as did she, so we told our families right away.

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Speaker 1: I had met hers plenty of times when dropping her off,

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Speaker 1: but it was nothing more than an introduction in exchanging pleasantry.

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Speaker 1: So nothing's happening yet. Both of our families accepted each

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Speaker 1: other with open arms, and our relationship grew. I was

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Speaker 1: a year ahead of her, so when I graduated, I

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Speaker 1: great pay. I visited her at school whenever I got

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Speaker 1: the chance, and whenever she came home. We would make

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Speaker 1: time for each other. Okay, so it's like a cute

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Speaker 1: little relationship. After she graduated, she moved in with me,

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Speaker 1: as both of our jobs were in the city near

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Speaker 1: where we grew up. Like me, she was offered a

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Speaker 1: position at the company she works at now with great pay.

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Speaker 1: She keeps getting better. Nothing could go wrong, saying nothing perfect.

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Speaker 1: After living together for about three years, I proposed and

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Speaker 1: we have been planning our wedding since. Now on to

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Speaker 1: the part you are all reading for Looking back, there

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Speaker 1: was plenty of things I overlooked. I just wrote off,

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Speaker 1: thinking my father was trying to welcome my ex into

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Speaker 1: our family. You know, he's just being extra friendly.

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Speaker 3: I've heard of open arms, but open llowyance. That's too

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Speaker 3: much of it. That's too much. That's too much, too open.

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Speaker 3: Let's close it down about.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to have to compete with your dad.

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Speaker 2: Golly, I hope not God.

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Speaker 1: Things like my father calling her all the time, and

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Speaker 1: if I was around, they would just tell me they

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Speaker 1: were talking about some upcoming family party or something along

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Speaker 1: those lines. Oh, that's not what you want to call

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Speaker 1: an orgy. One time Lauren was in the shower, oh,

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Speaker 1: and her phone rang. I saw it was my dad,

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Speaker 1: so I answered. When he realized it was me, he

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Speaker 1: sounded both upset and surprise that I picked up. Then

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Speaker 1: I asked what's up and he responded that he wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk to Lauren about my mother's birthday that was

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Speaker 1: in a week, and after a minute we ended the call.

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Speaker 1: Even typing this out now, I feel like an idiot

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Speaker 1: for not seeing it sooner.

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Speaker 2: Also, the.

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Speaker 3: Choice for fiance is negatively compounding very quickly for me

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Speaker 3: put in the comments if you know, you know?

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Speaker 1: Oh manh. On the day I found out, it was

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Speaker 1: made breakfast for both of us. When I set out

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Speaker 1: home at lunch to get it. Lauren texted me throughout

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Speaker 1: the day, talking about all the casual stuff a couple

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Speaker 1: I did the laundry, Do you want me to hang

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Speaker 1: it up for you? Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think it was necessary to tell her I

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Speaker 1: was coming up for lunch, so when it came around,

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Speaker 1: I just left work and went home. Put I see

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Speaker 1: you in the chat. If you know where this is going, She's.

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Speaker 2: Going to be eating something, but it ain't lunch.

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Speaker 1: That extra protein. Oh no, I just left and went home.

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Speaker 1: When I got home, I noticed a car that looked

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Speaker 1: our building. When I opened the door, I was met

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Speaker 1: with a scene out of a movie where a man

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Speaker 1: comes home early and catches his spouse cheating. Such a cliche. Ah,

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Speaker 1: there was a trail of clothes. Oh, not a trail.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's how you know the foreplay was good.

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Speaker 1: You know, A little trail, one piece near the door,

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Speaker 1: one piece in the living room, daddy knows how to

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Speaker 1: take his time. Oh he's got the experience.

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Speaker 2: God.

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Speaker 1: There was a trail close both his and hers, leading

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Speaker 1: least they were faint, echoing through my apartment. I stood

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Speaker 1: at the door in utter shock. My brain was a

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Speaker 1: mix of rage, sadness, and disgust. But if you were

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Speaker 1: you would see what looked like a statue. I just

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Speaker 1: couldn't move. When I finally snapped, not knowing how much

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Speaker 1: time had passed, I took out my phone to record.

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Speaker 1: I picked up all the clothes that were on the

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Speaker 1: for about a minute.

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Speaker 2: Oh dude, a minute, I mean a minute.

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Speaker 1: That's so long, Like think about that. So I'm here

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Speaker 1: with the phone. It goes ah, like I'm still there.

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Speaker 1: We're only ten seconds in that was We're ten seconds in.

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Speaker 4: Two seconds right now.

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Speaker 3: I can't I can't take times longer than that. I

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Speaker 3: cannot take some dude, Ope, why are you doing this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Like why.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the most I could give you is like you

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Speaker 3: want to be sure? Yeah, you go, you go, and

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Speaker 3: you immediately turn the lights on and then boom, they're there.

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Speaker 2: It's obvious. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm literally like I'm talking like phone in the door.

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Speaker 3: My head is like out the door.

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Speaker 1: Anna Marie says, maybe he low key liked it. Gross,

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Speaker 1: Anna Marie, Ah, gross. It's one thing to be a cock,

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Speaker 1: but it's another thing to be a familial daddy cock.

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Speaker 2: Ah. Again, the name's compounding very negatively for me.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I stood the door filming for a minute,

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Speaker 1: it was my father in bed with her. After the

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Speaker 1: I told him, if you don't want to get hurt,

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Speaker 1: stop coming to me. Oh that's what they were saying before.

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Speaker 1: Oh don't come to me, come to god.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm dude.

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Speaker 1: We're choice of words with the stop coming to me.

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Speaker 2: Dude, Opie's sus But like this is bad, this is

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Speaker 2: just like this, this is just awful. This is just true.

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Speaker 1: He either didn't care or didn't hear me and reached

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Speaker 2: Yo, hope he's throwing some hands.

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Speaker 1: Lauren shreet I aimed the camera. Lauren said, concerned about

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Speaker 1: your f buddy, but nothing to say to your fiance.

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Speaker 1: I told them I just needed to come pick something

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Speaker 1: I'll send this video to everyone, you know. I ended

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Speaker 1: to and said, you are unalive to me. You're no

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Speaker 1: longer my father. But you might want to go home

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Speaker 1: I told her it was nothing, and I'd be okay

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Speaker 3: I think a a buddy, you can you can, you

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Speaker 1: How do you tell that to your boss?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Wait, what Riley? If that happened to you, what would

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Speaker 1: you what would you tell us? What you say it

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Speaker 4: What do I say to the show?

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Speaker 1: What would you say to us? Like you're like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I gotta take a break cuz.

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Speaker 5: My dad's bone and my girl. Dude, I don't even

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Speaker 5: know where to start. At first, I'd probably guys, I

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Speaker 5: have a family emergency because dad's involved.

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Speaker 2: Emphasis on family.

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Speaker 5: Family, and then take a day, take a beat, and

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Speaker 4: At first, I'd probably be too embarrassed to say yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's just like yeah, embarrassment, that's yeah, that's rough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that is rough.

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Speaker 4: I see where he says there, What would you say, John, dude?

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Speaker 3: This this one's a little too too too close to home.

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Speaker 3: This one's hitting a little too close to home with

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Speaker 3: all the names. Yeah yeah, I was like, huh, Lauren

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Speaker 3: is my sister's name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I think, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's like family emergency red alert.

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Speaker 2: I have to tell you later because that is just.

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Speaker 3: Like I would be lost for words in that moment

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Speaker 3: of like what to tell anyone?

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Speaker 5: We all know what's gonna happen to Sam's dad. Though

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Speaker 5: he's gone, your mom finds out dead.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what my mom would do put it

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Speaker 1: Oh, she was introduced to Lauren a few times, but

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Speaker 3: Oh no, wow, that would be I mean, honestly, hail

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Speaker 1: Again, consolation prize getting with the girl says, you don't

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Speaker 1: show your boss. Harriet Spagetti says, Opie is in shock. Guys, Okay, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's true, right, Okay, right, okay, just don't check in so,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's clearly the path to get you to your dad.

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Speaker 2: This is the story is making say. I'm sick, guys,

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Speaker 1: To be honest, she asked if there was anything she

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I carried on so much, but it was

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Speaker 1: I just can't live here anymore. And there's no possible

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Speaker 1: oh pe kick the fiance out? You know? Do we all? Right,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just go real crazy here. I'm just really

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, hit me with it, hit me with it, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: Because imagine if it comes back positive from his own father.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's getting, he's getting with a woman half

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Speaker 3: Riz is literally astronomical, astronomical soldron.

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Speaker 1: Call Lee curiatric Riz, chiatric Riz. Even I don't have that,

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Speaker 1: but we got some club. It's so glad you found

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like just reading into how he was reacting.

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Speaker 1: So comment through op, Sorry you're here. Tell your mother

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Speaker 1: After your mom punts him out, you could stay there

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Speaker 1: they should know what they raised. The fiance will make

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Speaker 1: She's free to tell them anything she wants. Talk to

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Speaker 1: the lease, or letting your ex take the apartment. Update

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Speaker 1: when you can, Oh sharing gene pools and pool toys.

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Speaker 1: Oh if we don't like that, Oh god, nice Kimberly, Fuck.

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Speaker 2: Kimmily, we don't like that. We don't like that.

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Speaker 1: That is hilarious, And there is an update. Oh hello everyone.

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect to come back to Reddit and have

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Speaker 1: and reply to every comment to just know I read

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Speaker 1: both negative and positive. So the day after I posted,

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Speaker 1: Did the father block ope on the mom's phone?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, put the whole family line? WHOA disable everyone's number?

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Speaker 3: Forget forget blocking the I'm the head of the family

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Speaker 1: But maybe if she gets him mad enough, if the

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Speaker 1: It's on it. Yeah, it's it's like, you know, it

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear your apology when you finally

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Speaker 1: She's being fed, Liz, she's being fed lies. Yeah. I

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Speaker 3: Back to like this is just an insane scenario that

437
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Speaker 3: he's just like like like a psychotic break right whatever

438
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 3: they call it exactly.

439
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's on in his right mind. When

440
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: I got home, I started clearing everything out of my

441
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: apartment that had to do with Lauren or my family.

442
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: I box all Lauren's things, put them next to the

443
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 1: front door. Legally, this has been her place of residence,

444
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: so I can't technically punt her out, which is true,

445
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: like if she's on the least, her name is not

446
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: on the least. Oh, but it's her place of residence,

447
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 1: so I think it's still might she might have some ah,

448
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: some laws be protecting her. Also, she's the type of

449
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 1: person who shies away from conflict, and if she returns,

450
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: other than to pick her things up, there will be

451
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Speaker 1: plenty of conflict.

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

453
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Speaker 1: Anything that I had to do with my parents I

454
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Speaker 1: boxed up and put in storage. Like I said in

455
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Speaker 1: my first post, we were a very close family. I

456
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Speaker 1: mean it seems like it.

457
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Speaker 2: I literally I forgot about that.

458
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Speaker 1: Seems like it.

459
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: Honestly, she is a close family too. Do we go

460
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: a little tit for tat emphasis on not the tat what.

461
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Speaker 1: You mean because Opie's dad slept with his fiance. Opie

462
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: sleeps with his wife. I don't know if that would work.

463
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Speaker 1: How you wanted to work?

464
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 5: No?

465
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Speaker 2: No with Lauren's mom.

466
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Speaker 1: Oh with Lauren's mom.

467
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Speaker 2: Okay, you've heard of her fighting fire with fire?

468
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 3: How about fighting fire with a volcano with a nuclear reactor?

469
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Speaker 1: All right, all right, I like this. I don't know

470
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 1: if I like this, but I in theory, I think

471
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: it's fun.

472
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 2: Don't do it. Don't do it. He actually would.

473
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Speaker 1: Like I said in my first post, we were very

474
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Speaker 1: close family that I've never had a problem cutting toxic

475
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Speaker 1: people out of my life. I texted Lauren's parents and

476
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: told them I was calling off the engagement and told

477
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: them she's been cheating on me. I thanked them for

478
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: everything they've done for me. Our relationship was still building,

479
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: but they were kind and supportive of me, So this

480
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 1: just added more hurt to the mix. I finished by

481
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 1: asking if they would come pick up all of their belongings.

482
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Speaker 1: I haven't gotten a response from them yet, but I'm

483
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: hoping they come to grab her things. So Lauren didn't

484
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: have a reason to come back. And there is an

485
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: update in some comments. But yeah, what do we think

486
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: about this plan just telling everyone and like divorcing or

487
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: annulling or I guess ending the engagements. Yeah, prevorce, doing

488
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: a little prevorce action. Cutting off the dad for sure.

489
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Speaker 1: I don't know about cutting off the mom.

490
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

491
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Speaker 3: Again, I think it's we run into this scenario many

492
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Speaker 3: times where it's like it might end up doing more

493
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: harm to you just being involved in kind of like

494
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: dragging on the conflict than it does just kind of

495
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 3: telling the necessary people. Obviously, you had to tell your mom.

496
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 3: I think the parents make sense. I do like the

497
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 3: message he sent to his would be in laws, like, hey,

498
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Speaker 3: you know, thanks for being kind people.

499
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Speaker 2: I know this is on you.

500
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Speaker 3: Can you come pick up the stuff Outside of that,

501
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 3: I feel like you kind of got to cut your

502
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 3: losses and move on. And I feel like that will

503
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: be OPI will get better the fastest that way.

504
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: I agree. But man, this is try to just send

505
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,239
Speaker 1: everyone a Google drive link of the thing. I mean

506
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: that I think that might count as revenge corn.

507
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah again, Like I just think there's just potential blowback

508
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: that in the end would just add more pain stress

509
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: to OKI's life.

510
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so why why?

511
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: But common one? I figured he lied when your mother

512
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: wasn't answering. She must have said some stupid crap for

513
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: you to leave like that, the balls and your dad

514
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: to bring Lauren to your mother, someone would get a

515
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: little in my social circle. Not saying me wishing you

516
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: the best, and OPI replied, I'd send the video to

517
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Speaker 1: her parents if she tries to lie about it. And

518
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: Ope also replied, if I hear rumor or lies around town,

519
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: I for sure will another comment. I'm gonna say this.

520
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: Don't be mad at your mother. She's a victim of

521
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: this too. Unfortunately, your father, the piece of crap that

522
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 1: he is lied to cover his tracks. If she had

523
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: heard from you before your father got to her, things

524
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: would have been different. Your mother is going to need you,

525
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: just as you are going to need her, to take

526
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: some time to cool down that reach out to her.

527
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea great point. Yeah, I hope,

528
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: he replied. Thought that's what I thought she would do.

529
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: But I was clearly wrong. She said things a mother

530
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: should never say it to their child. But again she

531
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: said it under false pretenses like yes, she should have heard,

532
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: she should have heard your side. But I don't know

533
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: if you can completely blame her.

534
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I again, he just was completely lying to

535
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 3: her and miss misleading her, Like what else would we

536
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: expect to be honest?

537
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: Keep in mind that this is her husband, the father,

538
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: and the future daughter in law, and not strangers that

539
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: were telling her this. All she knew was her husband

540
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: came home bruised and beaten with a visibly upset future

541
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: daughter in law, so she believed what she was told

542
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: and reply Another reply says, heck with this mother, She's

543
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: obviously a moron. She stayed married to a piece of crap,

544
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: she couldn't see what a crap he was, and then

545
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: to turn on her own son without talking to him,

546
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: she deserves hell. Again, I don't know if that's really

547
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: She could have just.

548
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: Hid this the whole time. We've seen this some thousand times.

549
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: Another reply is if you read the first post, OPI said,

550
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: I have a close knit family, as did she, So

551
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: to me, it sounds like up until OPI sent his

552
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 1: mother the video, she had no reason to distrust her

553
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: husband of however many years. I'm not saying she's right

554
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: in the way she handled the situation, but as a parent,

555
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: I can see why she reacted in the way she

556
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: did when her husband and soon to be daughter in

557
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: law came saying he hit his father because he tried

558
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: to stop him from fighting arguing with soon to be

559
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: a daughter in law. If Opie had made one phone

560
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: call to his mother before he went dark for a

561
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: few days, his father wouldn't have had the opportunity to

562
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: lie and control the narrative. And there is another update more, Oh,

563
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: there is another update. Oh boy, jock, he reads some

564
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: of those comments while I get a little bit of

565
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: energy gum.

566
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely so, death Ray says, we have no idea what

567
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 3: the father said to the mother to hype her up

568
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: in anger.

569
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: All we all say things we regret.

570
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: He should try to forgive his mother eventually if she

571
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: leaves that man. Yeah, again absolutely like she didn't know

572
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 3: and also like to definite his point, we don't know

573
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: the exact specific words that were said either, So to me,

574
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, he could have Yeah, that was

575
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: what the mom like gave us the gist of, but

576
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: maybe he said more that that we that we didn't

577
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: know if we don't know how he positioned it. Harry

578
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 3: Spaghetti satistically, it's way more likely her son is a

579
00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: wife DV person than that her husband. They both loved

580
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 3: and trusted two minutes ago is creating grand spirit conspiracy.

581
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: I guess basically saying like, yeah, it's like you know

582
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: that the DV is the thing that that happens very frequently,

583
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: So it's it also to like to be fair. I

584
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 3: think like if I was Opie's mom in that situation, again,

585
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: these are two people, like one of the revel comments,

586
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: two people you know in trust. They come and they're like, Yo,

587
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: this happened. I don't think I would think to be like, oh, well,

588
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 3: where's the proof? And even if I did, I don't

589
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: know if I would ask them that off rep you know.

590
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: So I think it's totally fair that the mom was like,

591
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I see that you know this happens.

592
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: You're getting a lot of new information, yeah, really quickly. Yes,

593
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: death rage, deeth rage. I personally try to forgive the mother,

594
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: but I respect ope if they cannot, it's to each

595
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: their own. I feel like mom would need help leaving

596
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: the father in this moment, so I'd want to be

597
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: there for my mom. I think I'm with you, dude,

598
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. But yeah, wow, what a

599
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: what an e difficult situation? Truly, truly truly difficult, but

600
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: we have another update. Hello everyone, I'm sorry I haven't

601
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: updated in the while. In a while, I wish I

602
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: could say I'm doing great, but that would be a lie.

603
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: Everything hits me in waves. I go from just being

604
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: numb to boiling with rage. I haven't had a happy

605
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: moment since I've found out. Other than a few friends,

606
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't really have anyone in real life, especially since

607
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: my family turned out to be crap. That's true, all right,

608
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: Quite a few things happened since I posted last. It's

609
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: been about a month, so this update will tell all

610
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: that's been going on. After my last post, I decided

611
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: to get the ball rolling on everything that needed to

612
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: be done by getting tested, buying a therapist, moving, and

613
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: of course, buying a new bed. I started by calling

614
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: my doctor's office telling them I needed to get tested

615
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: and to refer me to a therapist. I had my

616
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: first appointment with a therapist two weeks ago and we

617
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Speaker 1: decided to continue once a week.

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Speaker 2: He's got her work cut out for Oh yeah, Jesus.

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Speaker 1: I also got tested last week, but it'll be another

620
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: week or so so until I get the results. Cross

621
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: your fingers for me. I got in touch with a

622
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: real estate agent friend of mine, and he sent me

623
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: a ton of listings and I decided on a refurbished

624
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: cabin on the outskirts of my city. I finished moving

625
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: in two days ago.

626
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: Wow.

627
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: When I finished moving, I called Elle's parents. When they

628
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: picked up, I told them I moved out and Lauren

629
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: still yet had to pick up her things. That the

630
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: landlord will start showing the apartment in a few days,

631
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: so someone better pick up her things before the landlord

632
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: throws it out. That must have lit a fire under them,

633
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: because the next day my former landlord texted me thanking

634
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: me for getting the apartment, forgetting the apartment emptied out.

635
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: No one knows where I live now other than the

636
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: friend who set me up with this place, so I

637
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: know Lauren or my parents won't be dropping by the

638
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: Only thing that sucks about this place is I traded

639
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: a ten minute walk to work to a forty five

640
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: minute draw. That's rough.

641
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the cabin on the outscers does sound nice,

642
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: which hopefully is like restorative.

643
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you need to be away from the hustle

644
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: and bustle of the SETI like city city center.

645
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: Forty five minutes. That's enough time for you to listen

646
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 4: to an hour and a half podcast.

647
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: True True, Half on the Way There, Half on the

648
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Speaker 1: Way Back.

649
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: That's right.

650
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: You should listen to Okay, Storyteme wherever you get your podcasts.

651
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: That's right. My phone has been blowing up with textan

652
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: calls from Lauren, both my parents, and some of my friends,

653
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: but I have no interest in talking to anyone other

654
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: than my therapist. At work. I've been a ghost. I

655
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: go in, get my work done and leave. On the

656
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: rare occasion I have to talk to someone, I put

657
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: on my fake smile and pretend everything is okay. My

658
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: boss from my previous post has been trying to check

659
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: out on me more, but I don't really tell her

660
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: anything either. I just tell her I appreciate it, but

661
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: I'll be okay. Truth is, I don't know if i'll

662
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: be okay. I get that time heals all and whatever,

663
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's only relevant when you're dealing

664
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: with one issue, not when you lose who you thought

665
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: were the three closest people in your life all at once.

666
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: That is so true, Mom, Dad, and fiance.

667
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: We got to call Mom back. Man, We've got to

668
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: do that. You need to lean on haw. Yeah.

669
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: I really don't think the mom cut off made sense. Yeah, yeah,

670
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm not into that.

671
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: I think he's so just wrapped up in his own

672
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: anger that it's I think OP does give kind of

673
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: some angry vibes.

674
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: I would be angry too, man.

675
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like even more than usual, you know what

676
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: I mean. I think that's what's Maybe something is fueling

677
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: him to not want to contact his mother.

678
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the fact that his dad slept with his beyance.

679
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: You might be right on that, right.

680
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: I think he's not in his right mind, but maybe

681
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: the therapist will help him see that he should. True,

682
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: he should get back with his mom. I mean, like contact,

683
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: A huge part of me fell into eternal sleep and

684
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: there's no chance of resuscitating it. The meetings with my

685
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: therapists are going well. I suppose I've never done therapy before,

686
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: so I have no reference on what good therapy is.

687
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: We do get along all right, and she really seems

688
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: genuine in wanting to help. The first session was us

689
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: getting to know each other and delving into what brings

690
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: me to her. Nothing in depth but me just telling

691
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: her what happened to my own words. The second session,

692
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: we went a bit deeper. She asked me about the

693
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: relationship I had with my parents, and I told her,

694
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: up until now it was great. We talked often and

695
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: always communicated well when something was wrong, and that I

696
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: grew up in a great home. But that all means

697
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: nothing now. She asked why I cut my mother out

698
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: of my life, and I told her she said things

699
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: to me I wouldn't say to someone I despise, and

700
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: then told her there's no way she can come back

701
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: from that. I think you've got to be more specific

702
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: with your therapists, like what did your mom actually say?

703
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think it was something along the ways

704
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: of how how dare you come here when you've you know.

705
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: Push your father and it's like, well over it, yeah,

706
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: come on, yeah, come on.

707
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: Like yeah, we understand that you are very upset, but

708
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: I do think I do think the anger is misplaced

709
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: and it's just going to make you feel worse.

710
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: Misplaced.

711
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: Yes, At the end of our last session, I gave

712
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: her the link to my page on here so she

713
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: can read more about how I feel and what's going

714
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: on in my head. I feel like it's easier to

715
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: type things out than to speak it out. So if

716
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: you're reading this, Hi Doc. For now, I'm still miserable.

717
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: I thought i'd be okay by now. Not necessarily happy,

718
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: but okay. I know some of this is my own

719
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: fault in not communicating to my friends, but when I

720
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: think about responding to them, it just seems so exhausting.

721
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: I know they'll want to get together or come to

722
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: my new place, but I just don't have the energy

723
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: to be around them until I do all work, go

724
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: to my appointments and sit on my back deck sipping

725
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: on some bottom shelf whiskey and try to enjoy this

726
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: beautiful view mountain. Man, I haven't hunted since high school,

727
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: so maybe I'll take that up again now that I

728
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: can hunt from my back porch. That's kind of cool?

729
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: Is this a non sober Riley?

730
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: Thank you all for reading this far. There are some comments,

731
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: and I believe another update, but yeah, what what do

732
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: you think? Do you think, Op, he's gonna rekindle things

733
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: with his mom.

734
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: I think he's getting there.

735
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 3: I think he's probably gonna go through this journey in

736
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: this process with a therapist, first time talking to a

737
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: therapist and maybe realize, yeah, maybe not only was it

738
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: like okay, that was too much and maybe unfair to

739
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: my mom, but also just hey man, I need all

740
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: the support I can get.

741
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: I need someone who understands what I'm going through.

742
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's that many people that have

743
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: that experience.

744
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: Listen, hey, poor groups, If anyone out there, people in

745
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 3: the world it's watching, let us know, because this actually

746
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: might have been the first time we've even heard a

747
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: story like this on our show, which is crazy.

748
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of scenarios.

749
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: We've definitely we've definitely had something like parents sleeping with

750
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: fiance yea or at least girlfriends.

751
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. I have I have, I do remember

752
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: one of those. I do have a crazy conspiracy theory though.

753
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: What there's one more update, Lauren.

754
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 4: Oh, he gets a new brother.

755
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: Ah, then your brother.

756
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 4: Oh he's like dad, what was my brother never talked

757
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: to me?

758
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 2: Dude?

759
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: Well, sonny funny story is.

760
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: Oh, honey Bee says he's going to be hunting his dad.

761
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: I mean the way Bro is moving and that sounds accurate.

762
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: But we got some more to the story. So hey, Sam,

763
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to the stories. But here's three

764
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: minutes of bads from our sponsors. Comments Comment one, I

765
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: really want to know what Op's X has to say

766
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: better be worth the audacity she has. Also, I hope

767
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: things get better for UOP and A reply. I agree,

768
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear their explanation before cutting them off forever.

769
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: When did it start? How many times? Why? Et cetera,

770
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: and OP says wouldn't do any good. You couldn't trus

771
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: they were telling you the truth anyways, true mom, though

772
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: Mom has a crap toun answer for before she gets

773
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: cut out, like why did she assume they were telling

774
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: the whole story? What is she going to do now

775
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: she's got a rug sweep and pretend she didn't see

776
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: it with her own eyes her husband of decades banging

777
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: her son's fiance, Or is she going to get a

778
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: spine and toss them like the wolves to the wolves

779
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: like they deserve. It doesn't matter either way, as she's

780
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: done something irrevocable to her own son and should cut

781
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 1: her off permanently, let her wallow in the self pity

782
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: as the years crawl by, with no family to cling

783
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: to because she's pathologically incapable of car compartmentalizing her emotions. Again,

784
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't know REDDA like grilling Mom Man I don't

785
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: really think mom deserves to be grilled college And there's

786
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: another reply. Somehow I get the feeling that she'll suck

787
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: it up and stay with that piece of crap to

788
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: keep the peace and move on as a family, even

789
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: though she verbally abused op right in front of her

790
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: house out of thought of such peace that needed to

791
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: be kept. In another comment said, I hope that your

792
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: test results come back clear. I know you're going through

793
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: a tough time, but eventually you were going to be

794
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: where you need to be, and I wouldn't want you

795
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: to try and reconnect with your friends and have them

796
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: not respond. They will feel like you turned your back

797
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: on them because they don't have the full story. Who

798
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: knows what your ex is telling them. Let them know

799
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: what the textra email, what happened, and that you need

800
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: time alone right now to figure yourself out. If they

801
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: are truly your friends, they will understand and wait for

802
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: you to heal. I wish you the best. I think

803
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: that's a good point.

804
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

805
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: I like that they reach out to the friends inform

806
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: them to a degree.

807
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

808
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Like I guess then maybe they'll be more open to

809
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: you coming back when you go back.

810
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe there are like a few friends that

811
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: you're really close with that could have like a big

812
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: role of support. Maybe then you tell, but don't tell.

813
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 3: I feel like his intention was like, oh, let me

814
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: put him on blast. That's where I think it kind

815
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: of goes negative. But if it's a specific person trying

816
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: to get.

817
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: Support, Yeah, And Masie Baker says, I just joined. But

818
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: isn't mom the victim in this too? Yeah? But I

819
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: think what happened initially is she yelled at op like

820
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: pretty aggressively and said some unspeakable things, according to Opi,

821
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: And so for that reason, opis like, I don't want

822
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: to be around her anyway. Opie replies, I know they

823
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: all know what happened, and we hung out the night

824
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: I told them, but when I got home, I thought

825
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 1: it was exhausting. So I just don't answer my phone

826
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: unless it's work, the bank, or my therapist. I know

827
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: I should write them a message telling them I need space,

828
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: but I still appreciate them, and then I'll probably do

829
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: that after I get off here. And there is an

830
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: another update eight months later.

831
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 6: Just remember what I said eight months Just remember that,

832
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 6: Just remember that, I really hope not Just remember Hey, everyone.

833
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: Sorry, I've been mia for a while. Now I'm writing

834
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: this update to let all of you know I'm alive

835
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: and give you the lowdown of what's been happening as

836
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: of recent First, I want to apologize to those who

837
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: worried about me the past few months. After my last post,

838
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: I was nowhere near okay. Oh. I pulled back from everything.

839
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: I secluded myself in order to heal and cope with

840
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: what is now my life. I want to know every

841
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: comment and message didn't fall on deaf years. I took

842
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: all of your positive feedback and advice and worked through

843
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: my problems. So to the people who've supported me through this,

844
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: truly thank you. I can't stress it enough. When I

845
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: was at the lowest I've ever been, it was the Internet,

846
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: the Internet strangers that were there for me. So thank

847
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: you all.

848
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 2: You're welcome.

849
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: In my last post, I was doing things like getting

850
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: tested for those sneakyng you know, those those spicy diseases,

851
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 1: those dong those dong diseasess those dog diddlers like something else,

852
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: and trying to restart my life. I'm happy to inform

853
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: you that I am clean. I could not be more relieved.

854
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: Thank God. That's a win.

855
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: I'm fully moved into my new place. When I told

856
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: you all about my new place, I told you it

857
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: was a refurbished cabin. Well, I might have been a

858
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: little generous. It was referbished almost twenty five to thirty

859
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: years ago, so it was a bit outdated. Well, well,

860
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: with all of my newfound free time, I decided to

861
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: actually refurbish it. And all that's left to do is

862
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: paint the guest room that I turned into an office.

863
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: The only thing I didn't do myself was the electric

864
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: and plumbing because I have no clue how to do

865
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: it and have zero interest in being shocked or putting

866
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: my hand down a crap covered pipe.

867
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: Oh.

868
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: Doing all the work has been incredibly stress releasing and

869
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: has helped me clear up my head. I still see

870
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: my therapist once a week. Good good and to all

871
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: those suggested that you probably saved my life, So thank you.

872
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Speaker 1: Being able to vent, get my frustrations out, and get

873
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: the advice I need has been better than anything in

874
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: my life past or present. I'm still working at the

875
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: same company. I've become more open with some of my

876
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: co workers that I'm closer with and my boss from

877
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: my previous posts due to advice from my therapists. Also

878
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: due to her and some of your advice, I've reached

879
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: out to my friend and have slowly been reintegrating into

880
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: the group again. Now onto the update with what's been

881
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: going on between my family and my ex. I decided

882
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: I was ready to have a talk with my mother.

883
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: There we go. We're coming first. That's a whircle, that's

884
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: a full circle.

885
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: So a little over a month ago, I unblocked her

886
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: on my phone and ranged out. I called, and almost

887
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: instantly she picked up the phone. I could tell through

888
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: the tone of her voice she was panicking. Eventually, after

889
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: reassuring her it was it was me, I told her

890
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: we should meet and talk. She agreed, and day later

891
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: we met at a diner near her house. She was

892
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: there before I was, and when she saw me, she

893
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: started quietly sobbing. When I sat, she apologized over and

894
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: over again, telling me she could only take their word

895
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: because she never thought them getting together. Whatever happened, I

896
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: told her, while I appreciate her apology, the things she

897
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: said to me were so despicable and something no more

898
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: and something no mother should ever say to their child.

899
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: And it showed me exactly what she thought of me.

900
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: She cried harder and promised me it's not true that

901
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: when she was told I hit my father for no reason,

902
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: she was so angry, and when I showed up to

903
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: the house, she just let her anger take over. Not

904
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: wanting to go back and forth with her, I decided

905
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: to move on, I said, speaking of that piece of crap,

906
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: what have you decided to do with him? Oh? Chat,

907
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: what's your guess? What's your guests? Did she stay with

908
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: him or did she leave? Did she stay or did

909
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: she go?

910
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: Please tell me, please, what's your guess?

911
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: She told me they've been separated. She punted him out

912
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: since the day after I sent her the video, and

913
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: she immediately found a lawyer. Then we moved on to

914
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: my ex, she said. When I pulled away, she went

915
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: back into the house and threw them both out. She

916
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: was too disgusted to look at them. By the way,

917
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: look at me, look at me.

918
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: Don't be disgusted.

919
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: I want you to be very into this. I want

920
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,600
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921
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Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, Spotify, anywhere, put it in your ears, go listen. Well,

927
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: there's a little bit more to the story.

928
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Speaker 2: Oh the story always scares me. I don't know what's

929
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: coming next.

930
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: We talked for about an hour in total, and before

931
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: I left, I told her I was in a dark

932
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: point of my life and because of the thing she

933
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: said to me, I didn't have my mother when I

934
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: needed her, and because of that, I don't know if

935
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: I could have her in my life. I then told

936
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: her I'm willing to work on my relationship with her,

937
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: but it will be at my pace. She stopped me

938
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: before I could leave and told me that she has

939
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: to tell me something important.

940
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: Hey, goat, we do this, we do this for a living.

941
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: She has to tell me something important. I sat back

942
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: down and she telled me, Lauren is pregnant. But with

943
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: who's baby, baby you are who's baby?

944
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: You're asking the right question. Surface later though, Oh so.

945
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: Eight months later, Lauren apparently showed up to the house

946
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: and told my mom. She said she doesn't know if

947
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: it's mine or my father's. Lauren asked if I had

948
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: been in touch so she could let me know. Obviously

949
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: she hasn't, so my mom just sent her on her way.

950
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: Well that's about it for the update. I have a

951
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: lot on my mind and not sure what to do

952
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: or feel. Oh, thank you for reading. Sorry for rambling on,

953
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: and Opie has some stuff in the comment section. I

954
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: need to know, I need to know, I need to know,

955
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: I need to know. John here og host.

956
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 3: We're gonna get back to these stories, but a quick

957
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: three minute break from house from our sponsors to.

958
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: Add, of course, I'll be getting a DNA test. There

959
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: were also some comments asking me if the claim is

960
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: actually real. Lauren came to my mother's house around seven

961
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: months pregnance. My mother is no rocket scientist, but I'm

962
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: almost positive she can tell when someone is seven months pregnant. Also,

963
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: there's not much of an update for my dad because

964
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't know much. Neither did my mom, so she

965
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: had nothing to share. And there is a reply one

966
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: hundred and time percent this and arrange it with a lawyer,

967
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: and do not contact her yourself, and the baby is yours.

968
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: You can decide from there how to proceed. A betrayal

969
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: like this is hard to recover from. Give yourself grace.

970
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: Day by day, you're getting better. I don't know what

971
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: your mom said, but she is very much in your

972
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: shoes as well. Maybe in time you can confer you

973
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: can forgive and another comment. Over the past months, I

974
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: kept remembering your story and hoping that you are well.

975
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: Thank you for updating us. I think it's good that

976
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: you allowed your mom to tell her side of the story.

977
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: Now you may have some clarity on her choices and

978
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: why she acted that way. Keeping the boundaries was good.

979
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: As for your ex's pregnancy, well, I don't think that's

980
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: your problem to deal with. She made her choices and

981
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: now she has to face the content quences. I really

982
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: hope that things may keep on improving for you and reply.

983
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: We have a reply. Oh not from OPI though unfortunately

984
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: it's going to be his problem if it is his

985
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: and not his father's kid. Just because she's a cheat

986
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: and a liar doesn't mean he can cleanly wipe his

987
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: hands of the situation. I sincerely hope it's his father's

988
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: kid so he can stay away from her and not

989
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: have to be forced to have a relationship with her,

990
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: even if it's just co parenting, would be a delicious

991
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: irony to see his father have to pay alimony to

992
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: OPI's mother as well as paying child support to the

993
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: ex fiance for the results of the affair. That is

994
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: where the episode or the story ens, and that's where

995
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: the story ends. Riley, Do we have an update?

996
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 4: No, they just completely are gone the ghost dango.

997
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: I really hope it's not his kid. Michael's freaking blue. Yeah,

998
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 3: because that oh my gosh, wow.

999
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: We do have some positives.

1000
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: We have the reconnection with the mother, we have the therapy,

1001
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 3: we have it sounds like, you know, rehaving this little,

1002
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: this little old freaking cabin.

1003
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: Question for you gone in this situation.

1004
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: M h.

1005
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: Let's say it was his biological kid, yep, and the

1006
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: fiance and the dad were willing to take on all

1007
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: responsibility for that kid. Would you relinquish responsibility if it

1008
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: was it was my if I was a biological kid,

1009
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: and what would you guys do it? In chat?

1010
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: I feel like it's weird because I feel like I

1011
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: would uh just like instinctually want to fight for custody, uh,

1012
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: whatever custody I could get, which maybe is a lotter

1013
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: all considering the circumstance. Yeah, if it's their baby, I

1014
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: kind of don't want. I don't I don't know how

1015
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 3: much contact I would want, but I think I would.

1016
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: I would fight for custody.

1017
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: So you would fight for custy if it was your

1018
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: biological kid, I think, so what if you? But if

1019
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: it was split fifty fifty, I mean.

1020
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 3: If that's what ends up like being the court case, like,

1021
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: so be it. But I would I would probably, but

1022
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 3: you would try to get primary custoders. I would try

1023
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 3: to get primary custody again, like we've seen in many

1024
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: stories where it's like the person gets primary custody, then

1025
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: they can decide what the split is.

1026
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 2: Legally speaking, right, I think that's what I would try.

1027
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: To go for. Yeah, so, so can we put a poll,

1028
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: fight for primary custody or sign away rights?

1029
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: What we're doing?

1030
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: So primary or sign off? Let us know what you

1031
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: would do. We have some donos to read though, oh

1032
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: and okay fortunes hey yo, and should we read those

1033
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: right now or else?

1034
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1035
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: Go for it.

1036
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 4: Either way, he's gonna have fifty percent of his DNA

1037
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: of the brother's dname.

1038
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: Okay, kids, he's gonna be related no matter what. Yeah,

1039
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: no matter what when you're related to.

1040
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Speaker 1: The affair, baby, Josephine Medola Burquez, thanks for the sixty

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1042
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1043
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1044
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Speaker 2: On Opie's phone.

1045
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, act yeah, that's that's I mean, that's literally what happened.

1046
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Speaker 1: Josephe Thank you for that amazing TLDR.

1047
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1050
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1052
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1054
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Speaker 1: So this is awkward, but I tried to mention in

1055
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Speaker 1: chat a few times but it got missed. Background play

1056
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Speaker 1: for YouTube is off, so I can't turn my screen

1057
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Speaker 1: off and listen at work. Sorry. I have to donate

1058
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1059
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1061
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Speaker 1: seems to work on the members ones. Yeah, that's just

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Speaker 1: a thing for members only. Background play is working Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it does work for if you have a membership.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Wimer, thanks to the five bucks. Love love to

1066
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Speaker 1: listen to you all when I'm getting ready or just

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1068
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Speaker 2: Hello,