Speaker 1: I am back, and I will finally give you my
Speaker 1: thoughts on all the Trump stuff, on the Fauci nonsense
Speaker 1: from today. Will Chamberlain is here. I'll the best, Stucky.
Speaker 1: What an incredible return it's going to be.
Speaker 2: And I'm right all right.
Speaker 1: Before we begin, I need to put a couple of
Speaker 1: disclaimers here. Yes, I know about all the Fauci testimony today.
Speaker 1: We're going to get to that in a couple minutes.
Speaker 1: And look, just wait on that. I'll get to that
Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes. But I was gone last week.
Speaker 1: I was on vacation. I wasn't out sick, I was fine.
Speaker 1: I was just on vacation. And of course I happen
Speaker 1: to take a vacation when boom, the Trump trial, the
Speaker 1: story of the year so far concludes and he gets
Speaker 1: found guilty, and everybody and their brothers reached out to me, every.
Speaker 2: Friend I have, every family member. What do you think?
Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think?
Speaker 1: So let me just lay it all out there and
Speaker 1: let you know what I think about this thing. First,
Speaker 1: let me ask you something. Be honest with yourself. You'll
Speaker 1: have to be honest with me. Just be honest with yourself.
Speaker 1: When when the verdict came down guilty, all thirty four
Speaker 1: counts guilty.
Speaker 2: I know you were mad. Everyone was mad mad. Maybe
Speaker 2: you were.
Speaker 1: Apoplectic, but everyone with some degree of mad. Maybe you
Speaker 1: were sad. That was kind of more where I come from.
Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a bitt But were you shocked?
Speaker 1: That's really what I wanted to know. Were you shocked
Speaker 1: what he didn't do anither?
Speaker 2: Were you shocked?
Speaker 1: And the reason I ask it is this, If you
Speaker 1: were shocked, if it in any way stunned you, You're
Speaker 1: not stupid, you know you're not.
Speaker 2: You're none of those things. That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But if it shocked you, then mentally you're not prepared
Speaker 1: to live live in the country you live in now.
Speaker 2: And this is what I mean by that.
Speaker 1: We have major portions of this country, not the whole thing,
Speaker 1: but major parts of this country are now fully controlled
Speaker 1: by evil people who want to do you harm.
Speaker 2: They want to do the country harm.
Speaker 1: Now, maybe I just said that and you said, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that, Jesse.
Speaker 2: In that case, you're right where you need to be.
Speaker 1: Maybe when I just said that these people want to
Speaker 1: do you harm, want to do the country harm. Maybe
Speaker 1: that made you, well, I don't know about that. Maybe
Speaker 1: you even thought to yourself right when I said it,
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's a little too far.
Speaker 2: No, maybe a bad apple here or there.
Speaker 3: But no.
Speaker 1: If that's how you think, then you're not ready to
Speaker 1: live in this country, and you need to get ready. There.
Speaker 1: Nobody who watches this show regularly was surprised even that
Speaker 1: much by what happened in the Trump trial. My goodness,
Speaker 1: this is from over a year ago. I came on
Speaker 1: and told you all this. Donald Trump was in very
Speaker 1: serious trouble, legal trouble, not because he did anything wrong,
Speaker 1: because we have parts of this nation now, New York
Speaker 1: City being one of those that are wholly controlled by
Speaker 1: communists at every level. Oh, Jesse, But if it goes
Speaker 1: to trial, he'll be fine. Do you have any idea
Speaker 1: the percentage of Democrats versus Republicans in Manhattan where that
Speaker 1: trial is going to be held over eighty percent Democrats.
Speaker 2: Do you know that Democrats in.
Speaker 1: This country do genuinely believe Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler.
Speaker 2: You think a jury of twelve is going to be.
Speaker 1: Made up of anyone but communists, apparatchicks who've been dying
Speaker 1: to throw Trump against.
Speaker 2: The wall forever.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is in serious legal trouble. Told you it
Speaker 1: was coming. It's not about I told you so, why
Speaker 1: did I see that? If you saw it, why did
Speaker 1: you see it coming. Well, here's the difference between those
Speaker 1: of us who saw it coming and those who were shocked.
Speaker 1: I understand what we're dealing with. I understand and I
Speaker 1: accept who and what I'm dealing with. And unless you
Speaker 1: get to that place, you will be shocked by every
Speaker 1: new outrage. And this isn't exactly the first outrage. There's
Speaker 1: been a million, and I have news for you, it
Speaker 1: won't be the last outrage. There will be more outrageous
Speaker 1: things coming, corrupt things, evil things coming.
Speaker 2: And if you want to avoid.
Speaker 1: Being I'm shocked, I can't believe that. If you want
Speaker 1: to avoid that, then it's time to grow up and
Speaker 1: accept who and what you're dealing with. You know what,
Speaker 1: Let's let's pause on all this. Let's let's give an
Speaker 1: example of that, because it really is. It's the most
Speaker 1: critical thing in many ways in life, when you're dealing
Speaker 1: with people, when you're dealing with friends, when you're dealing
Speaker 1: with enemies, it's everything figuring out who you're dealing with,
Speaker 1: who is this person? What do they want? What are
Speaker 1: their motivations? What are they afraid of? If you can
Speaker 1: figure this out in your personal life, your business life,
Speaker 1: your political life.
Speaker 2: You will make you will have it so much easier.
Speaker 1: And if you can't figure it out, then life is
Speaker 1: going to be a constant, a never ending list of
Speaker 1: shocks for you. Shocked, stunned, outraged. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: How could this happen? So here's a little historical example,
Speaker 1: and then we'll get back to the Trump stuff. The
Speaker 1: third of the Punic Wars, just really quickly, third of
Speaker 1: the Punic Wars. The Punic Wars were Rome versus Carthage.
Speaker 1: You know Hannibal and all that stuff. Well, Hannibal was
Speaker 1: a second Punic War, but let's talk about the third
Speaker 1: one really quickly. In the third Punic War, Rome Rome
Speaker 1: wanted to wipe out Carthage. They gave speeches about it
Speaker 1: all the time on the Senate floor. They would give
Speaker 1: speeches about how Carthage needs to be wiped out, Carthage
Speaker 1: needs to cease to exist.
Speaker 2: Carthage.
Speaker 1: This Roman senators would give up against speeches about it.
Speaker 2: So the Romans sends.
Speaker 1: Some big shots down to Carthage and they walk into Carthage.
Speaker 1: They kick in the front door and they say, hey, Carthage,
Speaker 1: we need all your money, and we need you to
Speaker 1: turn in all your weapons. You're not allowed to have
Speaker 1: weapons anymore. And we also need your children, the children
Speaker 1: of all the high society people.
Speaker 2: You have to give them to us as hostages.
Speaker 1: Now that moment was such a critical moment, such a
Speaker 1: critical moment because in that moment, Carthage had to understand
Speaker 1: what they were dealing with. If they didn't understand it,
Speaker 1: they were screwed. If they understood it, they had a chance.
Speaker 1: But Carthage, they didn't understand the Romans and what they wanted,
Speaker 1: what they really want, said, the Carthaginians handed over all
Speaker 1: their children, They handed over all their weapons, all their ships,
Speaker 1: saw their wealth, all their everything. And then they said, well,
Speaker 1: now you're going to leave us alone, right And Rome said,
Speaker 1: my goodness, know why would I do that? I have
Speaker 1: all your weapons and your children are mine too. Now
Speaker 1: you need to leave your city.
Speaker 2: And they were shocked, what we can't how could this happen?
Speaker 2: How could it happen?
Speaker 1: You didn't understand what you were dealing with? If you
Speaker 1: were shocked that Donald Trump was convicted of bogus charges
Speaker 1: in New York, you simply didn't understand Alvin Bragg. You
Speaker 1: don't understand communists. Alvin Bragg told you what he was
Speaker 1: going to do.
Speaker 2: I did my job. We did our job. Many voices
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: The only voice that matters is the voice of the jury,
Speaker 1: and the jury has spoken. He ran for office, sand
Speaker 1: he was going to do it, and then he didn't.
Speaker 1: And there's no reason to be shocked. Alvin Bragg is
Speaker 1: a committed communist. He's been put into that office in
Speaker 1: large part because of communists like George Soros who want
Speaker 1: to destroy America, destroy America's right wing.
Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg was.
Speaker 1: Elected to destroy Republicans, promised he would destroy Republicans, and
Speaker 1: he got into office and destroyed a Republican. Or is
Speaker 1: it that shocking or are we on the right just
Speaker 1: stunned by the fact that there's actually people out there
Speaker 1: who fulfill their campaign promises. I think maybe that's what
Speaker 1: gets us, that's what stuns us so much on the right.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, he's doing what he said he was
Speaker 2: gonna do.
Speaker 1: That's shocking, and the right doesn't get it. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: has been the most legally persecuted politician in American history.
Speaker 1: I think we could probably safely say that the man
Speaker 1: has been done wrong by every single level of the
Speaker 1: judicial system. Whether you're a Trump lover or a Trump hater,
Speaker 1: it's inarguable.
Speaker 2: And Trump just sat down for an interview.
Speaker 1: This is after the man was just convicted on thirty
Speaker 1: four felony accounts. He's either facing probation, house arrest or
Speaker 1: state prison in New York, and he was asked about
Speaker 1: the whole Hillary Clinton locker up thing. This is what
Speaker 1: Donald Trump said, And I think this is revealing about
Speaker 1: our mentality.
Speaker 4: You famously said regarding Hillary Clinton, locker up, you declined
Speaker 4: to do that.
Speaker 2: As president, I beat her.
Speaker 5: It's easier when you win. And they all said locker up.
Speaker 5: And I felt and I could have done it, but
Speaker 5: I felt it would have been a terrible thing. And
Speaker 5: then this happened to me, and so I may feel
Speaker 5: differently about it. I can't tell you. I can I'm
Speaker 5: not sure I can answer the question Hillary Clinton. I
Speaker 5: didn't say locker up, but the people don't say locker up.
Speaker 2: Locker up? Okay, then we won.
Speaker 5: And I's say and I said pretty openly. I said,
Speaker 5: all right, come on, just relax, let's go. We gotta
Speaker 5: make our country grade. And it would have been think
Speaker 5: of it. You lock up the wife of a president
Speaker 5: of the unications.
Speaker 6: They want to lock you up over one hundred and
Speaker 6: thirty thousand dollars accounting thing.
Speaker 5: And perfectly and a perfectly stated accounting thing. But you know,
Speaker 5: people also say, can you bring the country together? And
Speaker 5: the answer is yes, success will bring the country together
Speaker 5: because I had it together.
Speaker 1: No, we didn't come together. We're not going to come together.
Speaker 1: We are going to fight. We are going to fight now.
Speaker 1: Thankfully for the most part, it's a non violent fight.
Speaker 1: Hopefully the fight gets resolved in a non violent way.
Speaker 1: That's what I want. I hope that's what you want.
Speaker 1: But there's not going to be any coming together. Got
Speaker 1: elected last time. Hey, let's let bygones be bygones. After all,
Speaker 1: we got to get along, we got to come together.
Speaker 1: Other that's the right wing mentality. The communist takes power
Speaker 1: and he figures out how to destroy his enemies. Setting
Speaker 1: aside whatever you think about any of this, there's only
Speaker 1: one side that's going to win.
Speaker 2: If that's how we're going to play.
Speaker 1: These guys intend to use their power to utterly annihilate
Speaker 1: their political enemies, and these guys think that's really yucky,
Speaker 1: so they want to just let's not do that because
Speaker 1: it would be mean. Well, I don't care which side
Speaker 1: you think are good guys or bad guys. We don't
Speaker 1: do nursery rhyme conservatism here. Let's exist in the real world.
Speaker 1: In the real world, the guys who intend to destroy
Speaker 1: their enemies are going to win. Look, doctor FAUCHIU, you
Speaker 1: know what, Let's switch gears here. It's a great example.
Speaker 1: Doctor Fauci's in the news today because he sat in
Speaker 1: front of Congress and answered a bunch of questions. And
Speaker 1: I mean, here's a little montage what he did.
Speaker 4: The issue of the six foot distance. And I made
Speaker 4: the statement that it just appeared, and that got takes
Speaker 4: and that like, I don't know what's going on, it
Speaker 4: just appeared. It actually came from the CDC. The CDC
Speaker 4: was responsible for those kinds of guidelines to schools, not me.
Speaker 4: So when I said that it just appeared, it appeared.
Speaker 4: Was there any science behind it? What I meant by
Speaker 4: no science behind it is that there wasn't a control trial.
Speaker 7: Mass mandates for children under fire, their scientific evidence supporting that.
Speaker 4: There was no study that did masks on kids before.
Speaker 4: You couldn't do the study.
Speaker 7: Did or do the vaccines the COVID nineteen vaccines stopped
Speaker 7: anyone from getting COVID.
Speaker 4: I answered that question to the chairman. Early on it
Speaker 4: became clear that they did.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: Actually no. In the beginning, it clearly prevented infection in
Speaker 4: a certain percentage of people, but the durability of its
Speaker 4: ability to prevent infection was not long.
Speaker 7: It was measured in months, and they didn't stop you
Speaker 7: from spreading it either.
Speaker 4: Early on, it did if it prevented infection. But what
Speaker 4: became clear that it did not prevent transmission when the
Speaker 4: ability to prevent infection wan.
Speaker 1: Everyone's mad today at Fauci too, ye, Fauci's liar Valuchi.
Speaker 1: This Marjorie Taylor Green was out there today saying he
Speaker 1: should go to prison.
Speaker 8: You know that what this committee should be doing. We
Speaker 8: should be recommending you to be prosecuted. We should be
Speaker 8: writing a criminal referral because you should be prosecuted for
Speaker 8: crimes against humanity. You belong in prison, doctor Fauci.
Speaker 9: Mister Chairman, I have.
Speaker 2: Okay good speech. Is he going to prison? No, it's not.
Speaker 1: This is what the right simply doesn't understand. They don't
Speaker 1: understand what we're dealing with. Therefore they don't understand how.
Speaker 2: To deal with.
Speaker 1: You're mad at that Judge Mershahn in New York, you're
Speaker 1: mad at Alvin Bragg, you're mad at doctor Fauci.
Speaker 2: And I'm mad at all these people too. We're mad,
Speaker 2: I'm mad, you're mad. Everyone's mad. Okay, But.
Speaker 1: These are not people who seek out your approval or
Speaker 1: my approval. In fact, these people hate your living guts.
Speaker 1: They think I'm the devil himself. So me expressing my
Speaker 1: disapproval of something they've done, well, it's not exactly going
Speaker 1: to cause them to lose any sleep, now would it.
Speaker 1: Who cares if your mortal enemy dislikes you. We provide
Speaker 1: these people, We give them no disincentive to stop. We've
Speaker 1: never disincentivized the evil these people do. Pointing out their
Speaker 1: evil is not a disincentive. They don't care that you're
Speaker 1: mad and I'm mad. Either these people begin getting arrested
Speaker 1: and sent to prison, or they will never stop. So
Speaker 1: there's not going to be any coming together.
Speaker 10: And yes, we should have locked Hillary Clinton up in
Speaker 10: a cage, and doctor Fauci should join her in that
Speaker 10: same cage, and Judgemarshaan and all the rest of them
Speaker 10: should be locked up and sent to prison. If that's
Speaker 10: not going to happen, then we're going to lose, and
Speaker 10: nothing's going to change. Pointing out evil, expressing disapproval, pointing
Speaker 10: out their hypocrisy does nothing to stop.
Speaker 1: To dissuade an evil person from his evil.
Speaker 2: Nothing.
Speaker 1: We must grow some teeth or we've lost all that
Speaker 1: may have made.
Speaker 2: You uncomfortable, but I am right.
Speaker 1: We will talk to Will Chamberlain about Hunter Biden. Speaking
Speaker 1: of teeth, have you seen his anyway? We're going to
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Speaker 1: We'll be back, all right, Hunter Biden. Is he going
Speaker 1: to prison?
Speaker 2: Though? Probably not?
Speaker 1: I mean, he should looks pretty cut and dry to me,
Speaker 1: But of course he's a Democrat and we all know
Speaker 1: how that's gonna go.
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm speaking out a turn here.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the law. Jury selection began today.
Speaker 1: Chamberlain knows all about a senior counsel for the Article
Speaker 1: three project, and my friend Will Chamberlain joins us. Now, Okay, Will,
Speaker 1: what's Hunter on trial for?
Speaker 2: And is he going to prison? Yes?
Speaker 3: I think Hunter's on trial for the two gun crimes,
Speaker 3: and he's just dead to rights on them. He's det
Speaker 3: to rights on having purchased a gun while being a
Speaker 3: user of drugs, and he's dead to rights of having
Speaker 3: lied about it on a form. So I don't see
Speaker 3: any possibility that he manages to escape criminal liability here.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it's hard to figure out exactly how many
Speaker 1: crimes this man is being prosecuted for simply because he's
Speaker 1: committed so many and recorded all of them on video
Speaker 1: and picture and put them on his laptop, which he
Speaker 1: turned into someone else. So, just to be clear, these
Speaker 1: are not the tax charges, right, this is a completely
Speaker 1: separate casement.
Speaker 2: It's hard to make sense of all this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm pretty certain it's a separate case entirely.
Speaker 3: This is just a prosecution on the gun charges, and
Speaker 3: it's pretty reasonable for them to approach it this way
Speaker 3: because the gun chargers are such a straightforward slam dunk.
Speaker 3: I mean, he admitted to being on drugs in his
Speaker 3: memoir and at the time that he purchased this gun.
Speaker 3: It's very straightforward.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Bo Biden's wife, Bo Biden's dead and Hunter
Speaker 1: Biden struck up a relationship with his dead brother's wife.
Speaker 2: Will just leave it at that. Apparently Joe Biden just
Speaker 2: met with her recently. What's going on here? Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: I guess Joe Biden met with a person who's about
Speaker 3: to be a witness in this case. And you know,
Speaker 3: we heard so much about with potential witness tampering and
Speaker 3: the Trump case baselessly to the point of the judge
Speaker 3: in that case put a gag order on President Trump.
Speaker 3: And yet here you have the president is just blickly
Speaker 3: going to meet people who are about to be witnesses
Speaker 3: in a trial against his son. You know, in some sense,
Speaker 3: I prefer he just like, let's get rid of the charade.
Speaker 2: Just go ahead and.
Speaker 3: Pardon your son, Joe, Like we we know that's what
Speaker 3: we know, that's what's going to end up happening here.
Speaker 3: Obviously you're going to mean if anybody's gonna use the
Speaker 3: pardon however anything, you're going to pardon your son for.
Speaker 2: Crimes that he committed.
Speaker 3: But like the making a mockery of the justice system
Speaker 3: by tampering with witnesses seems you know, pretty low even
Speaker 3: for Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: Is it illegal? Like is he allowed to do this?
Speaker 3: I mean, theoretically he could just meet with the person
Speaker 3: and not discuss anything trial related, and I think that
Speaker 3: would not be a crime. And that said, it it
Speaker 3: looks really bad, And if there was ever any evidence
Speaker 3: that some testimony changed as a result, that would be bad.
Speaker 3: That said, I, you know, I'll give him the benefit
Speaker 3: of the doubt in the sense that I can't suspect
Speaker 3: that that you know this person's testimony is going to
Speaker 3: be particularly important, like all that, you know, it's not
Speaker 3: the condition of Hunter Biden is not going to rely
Speaker 3: on what anybody else says. It's going to rely on
Speaker 3: literally Hunter Biden's own statements he made.
Speaker 2: In writing Okay, let's move on to the Trump situation.
Speaker 1: Will I've seen a million different legal opinions on what
Speaker 1: happens from here, probation, house arrest, Is he going to
Speaker 1: Rikers Island?
Speaker 2: What's going to happen to Donald Trump? And when from here?
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a range of possibilities. Jail is not
Speaker 3: out of the question, it's just not you know, under
Speaker 3: normal circumstances in a trial like this one, jail would
Speaker 3: be unlikely for two reasons. First, you know, his lack
Speaker 3: of a criminal history would suggest that probation is the
Speaker 3: more likely sentenced. And then second, because there are so
Speaker 3: many different novel appellate issues that are what's called colorable,
Speaker 3: meaning like you know, not frivolous, serious appellate issues, Judges
Speaker 3: would be loath to send a defendant to jail if
Speaker 3: there's a what they think is a serious chance that
Speaker 3: there the conviction will be reversed and they'll get out right,
Speaker 3: because that's that's not just embarrassing for the judge, but
Speaker 3: it's all so bad for the state because the state
Speaker 3: would then have to compensate the criminal defendant for being
Speaker 3: wrongfully imprisoned. So normally you wouldn't see an imprisonment in
Speaker 3: the circumstances. But there's nothing normal about this prosecution. There's
Speaker 3: been nothing normal about it. I mean, the guy donated
Speaker 3: to Joe Biden. Judges don't donate to political campaigns. There
Speaker 3: are codes of ethics that were hibb him from doing so.
Speaker 3: This guy even though it was a small donation. But
Speaker 3: the thing about it is, what's the point of a
Speaker 3: judge making attend to ordination. It's not going to swing
Speaker 3: the election. It's to signal that he's on the team.
Speaker 3: It's to signal that he's on team Progressive. And then
Speaker 3: you wonder why this guy seems to keep getting trials
Speaker 3: that involve Trump or Trump allies. Gee, I wonder maybe
Speaker 3: it's because he raised his hand and said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I really like Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: You should put me in charge of prosecuting Trump.
Speaker 1: Well, can you explain, because you mentioned the appeals process
Speaker 1: and we're seeing a lot about that. Now he's going
Speaker 1: to appeal. He's appealed, But how does that work a
Speaker 1: timeline wise? Is Donald Trump could potentially spend election day
Speaker 1: in prison? Does the appeal process stop that? How does
Speaker 1: this work?
Speaker 2: Possibly?
Speaker 3: So you know, the judge will have to, you know,
Speaker 3: decide on what the sentence is and then decide whether
Speaker 3: to kind of hold it in abeyance, right, so you know,
Speaker 3: if that's that's what they would normally do, if they
Speaker 3: thought there was a serious appeal, they wouldn't. They'd say, Okay,
Speaker 3: your sentence is a year in jail. But we're not
Speaker 3: gonna We're not going to order you to jail right yet.
Speaker 3: We're going to wait for the appeals to resolve, and
Speaker 3: then in the event that you fail on your appeals,
Speaker 3: then we will bring you back here and put send
Speaker 3: you order you to report to jail. Now again, that
Speaker 3: that would be the normal way this would occur, but
Speaker 3: I don't expect you know, judges also have the discretion
Speaker 3: to just go ahead and order you to jail right
Speaker 3: away and revoke your bail. Like once you're a convicted felon,
Speaker 3: you're sort of your your personal liberty pre sentence, pre
Speaker 3: serving your sentence is very much at the discretion of
Speaker 3: the judge. So it's not like it's not like there's
Speaker 3: a legal requirement that Donald Trump be.
Speaker 2: Out of jail.
Speaker 3: It relies on a judge's discretion, and this judge has
Speaker 3: abused a discretion at every turn.
Speaker 1: Gosh, well, thank you so much, man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll dig into this a little bit more
Speaker 1: with Ali Beth Stucky. It's a little bit more depth.
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Speaker 1: sexy political stories that are out there. Obviously we are
Speaker 1: going to talk about those, and we have talked about those.
Speaker 1: But normal people matter as much as famous people. You know,
Speaker 1: law errors on everyone's mind now because Trump just got
Speaker 1: convicted of thirty four felonies, which yes, our bogus. But
Speaker 1: normal people who aren't famous, they're never going to be president.
Speaker 1: Their lives matter just as much, and they're being destroyed.
Speaker 1: A seventy five year old woman was just sentenced to
Speaker 1: two years in the clink by Biden's the OJ and man,
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Speaker 1: Joining me now, Ali Bethstucky, host of Relatable and by
Speaker 1: the way, she's hosting an event called Share the Air,
Speaker 1: which we will talk about a little later on.
Speaker 2: Ali, give us an update. What is this?
Speaker 1: Why are we sending a senior citizen woman to prison?
Speaker 3: What you do?
Speaker 6: Right from what I can gather, she was simply praying
Speaker 6: outside of an abortion clinic. She was praying outside of
Speaker 6: an abortion clinic. She wasn't harassing people, she wasn't pushing
Speaker 6: people down. She didn't assault anyone. She was praying outside
Speaker 6: of an abortion clinic. And you know she has fragile health,
Speaker 6: as many seventy five year olds do, but her health
Speaker 6: is particularly unstable, and her husband just begged for mercy
Speaker 6: from this judge, saying, I'm afraid that she is going
Speaker 6: to die. That picture of them right there, I'm afraid
Speaker 6: that she is going to die in prison. And the
Speaker 6: judge mocked this woman and said, oh, well, since she's
Speaker 6: pro life, and she should work really hard at trying
Speaker 6: to stay alive. So that is how our justice system treats,
Speaker 6: as you said, the average individual, the powerless person who
Speaker 6: dares stand against the murder of baby.
Speaker 2: Ali.
Speaker 1: Obviously, I talk about this a lot, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people get mad that we have a new religion
Speaker 1: in this country.
Speaker 2: We really, genuinely do.
Speaker 1: You can tell a country's religion because you can see
Speaker 1: it woven into everything. If I go to Saudi Arabia
Speaker 1: and I turn on the television, I will see references
Speaker 1: to Islam. If I walk in businesses, I'll see references
Speaker 1: to Islam. If I do whatever, I will see Islamic references.
Speaker 1: It's reflected in their laws. It's reflected in their government.
Speaker 1: It's everything. If I go to Israel, it'll be Judaism.
Speaker 1: Here in the United States of America, we like to
Speaker 1: consider ourselves a Christian nation because we were founded by Christians.
Speaker 1: We're not a Christian nation any longer. Go turn on
Speaker 1: your television set or tune into the movies.
Speaker 2: We're a gay country.
Speaker 6: That's our religion, now, right, yep, you are absolutely right.
Speaker 6: We are a country that worshiped at the altar of
Speaker 6: basically the God of Self. Like if you want to
Speaker 6: create an umbrella for the religious ideology that we follow,
Speaker 6: because LGBTQ calls under it, but so does abortion, and
Speaker 6: it might seem like those two things are totally unrelated,
Speaker 6: but they're not. They're the worship of the God of Self.
Speaker 6: They are the worship of your own feelings, your own desires,
Speaker 6: and your own whims. And when that is what matters most,
Speaker 6: then you will sacrifice anything, including the lives of babies,
Speaker 6: on that altar. You will sacrifice your own body. That's,
Speaker 6: of course, what we're seeing when we see the so
Speaker 6: called gender ideology that justifies the butchering of the bodies
Speaker 6: of children in the name of trying to change to
Speaker 6: the opposite sex. That is worshiping the cruel god of self.
Speaker 6: That is the religion, that is the dogma of the
Speaker 6: United States, and it manifests itself in very bloodthirsty and
Speaker 6: sexually depraved ways.
Speaker 1: I saw an article USA today that there's a lot fewer,
Speaker 1: a lot fewer.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's not good.
Speaker 1: English, but I'm white trash and what's the community college anyway?
Speaker 1: There's less pride stuff out there, apparently from corporations this year,
Speaker 1: and that is because corporations are afraid of backlash.
Speaker 2: So I don't want to call a loss or less
Speaker 2: of a loss.
Speaker 1: A win, but are we gaining ground on this front
Speaker 1: with all the corporate rainbow filth.
Speaker 6: Look, I wouldn't say that we have won the battle,
Speaker 6: or that we've even come close to winning the battle.
Speaker 6: But I'm encouraged by this, even if it's just a
Speaker 6: little bit. The fact that there was any backlash, that
Speaker 6: there was any pushback, and that these corporations responded at all,
Speaker 6: it's pretty incredible. Rather than only doubling down and saying,
Speaker 6: you know what, I don't care what you say, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama,
Speaker 6: we are going to double the chest binders in the
Speaker 6: packing bathing suits that we're going to sell at Target
Speaker 6: this year. The fact that they're dialing back, even if
Speaker 6: it's regional, even if it's just a little bit, I
Speaker 6: do see as a positive sign. Now, don't let this
Speaker 6: conservatives make you comfortable. Don't say Okay, well you've given
Speaker 6: in and now I'm going to go back to Target
Speaker 6: this June. I've gone three years without Target, and I'm
Speaker 6: going strong. It is totally possible. Continue to send the
Speaker 6: message and say no until you are done with this
Speaker 6: stuff completely.
Speaker 2: You do not get my business.
Speaker 1: Well, we've got to develop a killer mentality. Speaking of
Speaker 1: needing to develop a different mentality, where's the church?
Speaker 2: Ali?
Speaker 1: And I'm not indicting every church in this country by
Speaker 1: any means, but I personally have had to leave more
Speaker 1: than one because of this mellly mouth crap you hear
Speaker 1: from the pulpit out there.
Speaker 2: What would just love and the stones and love?
Speaker 1: And we have this hippie Jesus who apparently never stood
Speaker 1: for anything and certainly never got mad or called anybody names.
Speaker 1: I don't know what Bible this guy's supposedly from, But
Speaker 1: what happened to the American church?
Speaker 2: And when did it? Lose its balls, right.
Speaker 6: Well, unfortunately, this is even true among churches that call
Speaker 6: themselves conservative Christian churches, maybe churches that aren't fully pro LGBTQ.
Speaker 6: They say that they are on the Conserva five side
Speaker 6: of things, but they just won't.
Speaker 2: Talk about it.
Speaker 6: They won't talk about it. They will maybe kind of
Speaker 6: pay homage to BLM in the name of social justice,
Speaker 6: but they won't talk about all of the other controversial
Speaker 6: stuff because it's too divisive and too political. But for
Speaker 6: the Christian these are not primarily political issues, the primarily
Speaker 6: biblical issues.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 6: Genis is one issues, and Genesis is one we see
Speaker 6: the definition of gender, of marriage, of the family, the
Speaker 6: value of human life because we're made in God's image.
Speaker 6: So if you have a pastor who, because they're afraid
Speaker 6: of offending people, won't even preach the first chapter of
Speaker 6: the First Book of the Bible because they're afraid it's
Speaker 6: too political, then that's not a pastor. That's a coward,
Speaker 6: and a coward is not a good shepherd of the flock.
Speaker 1: Tell me about share the arrows? Do I have to
Speaker 1: take arrows with you?
Speaker 9: Ali?
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like fun.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, it's not really fun. But we're not
Speaker 6: living in an age where it's fun to be a Christian,
Speaker 6: a Christian that really cares about Christian theology and stands
Speaker 6: up for it in the public fear there are arrows
Speaker 6: headed our way. And I think you talked about this
Speaker 6: a lot. The natural propensity for all of us when
Speaker 6: we see someone standing up for something that we believe in,
Speaker 6: but they're getting bullied for it, they're getting fired for it,
Speaker 6: they're getting reamed for it publicly, they're getting dragged whatever.
Speaker 6: The natural tendency is to say, oh, I'm glad that's
Speaker 6: not me. I've learned my lesson. Now I'm not going
Speaker 6: to pray outside of the clinic. Now I'm not going
Speaker 6: to resist the LGBTQ lobby, whatever it is. Rather than
Speaker 6: doing that towering in the corner, we should be standing
Speaker 6: off and saying, no, you know what, what are our
Speaker 6: arrows you are launching at that person than of my
Speaker 6: way too. I'll take them too. And that's not without consequence,
Speaker 6: that's not without danger, but it is the only way
Speaker 6: to push back. It is the only way to inspire courage,
Speaker 6: courage beget courage. Courage is contagious, and when we all
Speaker 6: stand up together. I'm not saying that we have the
Speaker 6: power to change the trajectory of the country. I hope
Speaker 6: we do. Maybe not, but at the very least, we
Speaker 6: can remind each other that we are on the right side,
Speaker 6: that we are on the side of truth, and we
Speaker 6: can keep each other sane. That's what this event is about.
Speaker 6: Share the arrows in Dallas, Texas on September twenty eighth.
Speaker 6: We've got Rosario Butterfield, Lisa Childers, Abby Halberstadt for just
Speaker 6: about a steally, I will be speaking too. You'll be
Speaker 6: coming together with thousands of like minded women to be
Speaker 6: equipped and empowered to face the craziness and the chaos
Speaker 6: of our age.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 1: That's quite a lot of If I wasn't a dude,
Speaker 1: I would show up with that anyway. Ali appreciate you
Speaker 1: as always. All Right, we've got Doug Brunt. Talk a
Speaker 1: little history with Doug. Is Megan Kelly's husband. Before we
Speaker 1: get to Doug, let's talk about your coffee. I want
Speaker 1: you to drink better coffee. I'm not insulting the quality
Speaker 1: of your cup of coffee, but the coffee company itself. Look,
Speaker 1: you want an eye opener. Where do you get your coffee.
Speaker 1: Go look up the name of that company in Pride month.
Speaker 2: Tell me what you see on that.
Speaker 1: I can look up Blackout Coffee all day long. You
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back.
Speaker 9: There's wrongdoing here, right, There was definitely wrongdoing. Whether it
Speaker 9: should have been a crime. As a separate what's the wrongdoing?
Speaker 9: What's the wrongdoing?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 2: Number one?
Speaker 9: It's paying one hundred and thirty thousand dollars to a
Speaker 9: porn star to keep her quiet. That's work to try
Speaker 9: to protect your campaign. Can we at least agree that's wrong?
Speaker 9: That's not illegal when you're doing it to protect the
Speaker 9: campaign and you are spending money on it. It then
Speaker 9: now I'm going to switch back to the legal You
Speaker 9: are now crossing the line into legal problems, right aren't.
Speaker 11: That's no, absolutely not right, incorrect at every level. There's
Speaker 11: nothing illegal about paying hush money for an NDA, it's done.
Speaker 9: There's when you're doing it to protect your campaign.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 9: That's the difference.
Speaker 1: But what law?
Speaker 9: What law are you citing? Dan Camp and finance laws?
Speaker 9: You're not allowed to.
Speaker 11: You don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: What you're wrong.
Speaker 9: Explain to me, tell me what I'm.
Speaker 11: Going to.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 11: Because you're saying that there are limits to the campaign
Speaker 11: contribution somebody could make and this is exceeded them and
Speaker 11: then they hit it. I understand that's his theory. However,
Speaker 11: this has been wrong from the start. It does not
Speaker 11: amount to a campaign contribution if it is the kind
Speaker 11: of payment that could ever be made outside of the
Speaker 11: campaign standard.
Speaker 9: The standard is substantiality. It's not yes, it you wrong?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess we're gonna do agree.
Speaker 11: There's been Supreme Court president on this.
Speaker 9: Court that the standard of substantiality.
Speaker 1: All right, joining me now, Meghan Kelly's husband. He wrote
Speaker 1: the coolest freaking book that me and my wife enjoy,
Speaker 1: the mysterious case of Rudolph Diesel, which I will get
Speaker 1: to in a little bit. But Doug Brunt joins me. Now, okay, Doug, look,
Speaker 1: far be it from me to get involved in anyone's
Speaker 1: marriage or anything like that. But I just have to
Speaker 1: say I love Meghan and I hate Dan Abrams, and
Speaker 1: I found myself feeling bad for him there.
Speaker 2: What's it like to argue with your wife? Do you
Speaker 2: have to do?
Speaker 1: You take extra prep time? I would take a lot
Speaker 1: of prep time if that was me.
Speaker 12: You know, it's so funny. She was just telling this
Speaker 12: story the other night. So we actually don't fight that much.
Speaker 12: We see things pretty much. I to eye on the
Speaker 12: kids and other things. But about a year ago, we
Speaker 12: had a low out fight and I was in bed
Speaker 12: and it was like bedtime. We were going to bed,
Speaker 12: but it wasn't happening. We're having a huge blowout. And
Speaker 12: I made one comment too many and she went into
Speaker 12: two middle fingers raised, sort of shaking him back and forth,
Speaker 12: deep knee bend, and I realized and I pointed like, oh,
Speaker 12: you know, in the midst of this huge fight. The
Speaker 12: whole scene was so funny to me, I go double barrel.
Speaker 12: We're in new territory here, so normally my strategy is
Speaker 12: just sort of you know, opening position and run for
Speaker 12: the hills, because the more you engage it never it
Speaker 12: never goes my way.
Speaker 1: You want to do it more of a World War
Speaker 1: One strategy where you just dig into your trench and
Speaker 1: kind of stay there.
Speaker 2: And that Actually, how about.
Speaker 1: That segue, Doug that leads me to your book, which
Speaker 1: I want to get to before I get to anything else.
Speaker 2: Rudolph Diesel.
Speaker 1: People they have heard of Diesel, right, but they have
Speaker 1: never heard of Rudolph unless they're talking about the reindeer.
Speaker 2: Will you explain just a bit about this book.
Speaker 1: It's hard to find a book that I and my
Speaker 1: wife both enjoy.
Speaker 12: It has elements of everything. It's sort of a biography
Speaker 12: and a nineteenth century primer. But it also turns into
Speaker 12: this Agatha Christie mystery at the end because in nineteen thirteen,
Speaker 12: right before World War One, Rudolph Diesel disappeared and at
Speaker 12: the time he was a huge celebrity, like the Elon
Speaker 12: Musk of the day. And when he disappeared off this
Speaker 12: passenger ship in the North Sea, people thought he might
Speaker 12: have been murdered, either by Rockefeller or by Kaiser Wilhelm,
Speaker 12: the Emperor of Germany. And there's a whole mystery around
Speaker 12: it because diesel technology was just emerging, I mean even
Speaker 12: still today, it's the primary power source for the world.
Speaker 12: It completely powers the global economy to this day, but
Speaker 12: one hundred years ago is just emerging. It was the
Speaker 12: only option for submarines and U boats. Every navy in
Speaker 12: Europe was scrambling for diesel power to establish their submarine
Speaker 12: and U boat program. So that's why he was sought
Speaker 12: after by all the governments of Europe. But it also
Speaker 12: could run on a range of fuels, including nut oil
Speaker 12: or coal tar, and that's actually true to this day.
Speaker 12: It's very flexible with regard to fuels. So he disappears,
Speaker 12: and it's a huge mystery that I saw of in
Speaker 12: the book.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you to give it away.
Speaker 1: People can go get it. Highly recommend you get it.
Speaker 1: But along those lines, we're told so many lies by
Speaker 1: history books. I'm sure the more I'm sure you are
Speaker 1: a historian, or at least a history fan. I'm a
Speaker 1: history fan, and it blows me away, dog, how many
Speaker 1: different I'll read five different sources and have five different
Speaker 1: versions of the exact same event, with five different sets
Speaker 1: of facts, for dates, for names, for this or that.
Speaker 1: It makes me question everything. I look at all this
Speaker 1: Trump trial nonsense and I think, what are the history
Speaker 1: books going to write? It feels like we've always been
Speaker 1: lied to about everything.
Speaker 2: Is that too extreme?
Speaker 12: It's always been there. There's always been part is in
Speaker 12: coverage in newspapers. Even in the events surrounding Diesel's disappearance
Speaker 12: in the weeks after, there was all sorts of conflicting
Speaker 12: reporting in the newspapers, you know, and as history gets it,
Speaker 12: you know, as the saying goes what you and Meghan
Speaker 12: and Dan Abrams are doing, you're writing the first draft
Speaker 12: of history. There's a lot of conflicting reporting there. And
Speaker 12: I think in the same way that consume of news
Speaker 12: today need to go to multiple sources. You know, you
Speaker 12: need to listen to Jesse Kelly and Megan Kelly and
Speaker 12: the Daily from the New York Times as you cover history.
Speaker 12: If you want to learn about World War One, you
Speaker 12: should read Barbara Tuckman, who's a little more Allied friendly.
Speaker 12: And then there's another terrific book by Christopher Clark called Sleepwalkers,
Speaker 12: which has a little bit more of a of a
Speaker 12: German perspective of how things got started and went down.
Speaker 12: So it's always good to multi source, whether it's today's
Speaker 12: news or history.
Speaker 1: Doug I want to focus on the history aspect of
Speaker 1: this because this is one of the things that drives
Speaker 1: me crazy trying to find something modern historically that's not
Speaker 1: completely twisted twisted up as being anti West, anti American,
Speaker 1: and they're out there Hampton Sides read some great things,
Speaker 1: but look, you downloaded some random history podcast, you'll be
Speaker 1: ten minutes into it and learn just how bad America sucks.
Speaker 1: So if you're a parent and you want to learn
Speaker 1: more about history, you want your kids to learn more
Speaker 1: about history, where do you send them? You guys, have
Speaker 1: you have kids, what do you do? What do you
Speaker 1: tell them? Where do you send them?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 12: Right now, we actually had to switch schools for some
Speaker 12: of this because when our kids were, you know, second grade,
Speaker 12: they were doing an American Revolution project and they didn't
Speaker 12: know George.
Speaker 2: They knew the names of fifteen slaves.
Speaker 12: They're sort of doing it from that perspective, but it
Speaker 12: was their first go at learning the American Revolution and
Speaker 12: they didn't know after two months who George Washington was.
Speaker 12: They were learning everything else, and that school has actually
Speaker 12: sort of walked back a lot of it's curriculum that
Speaker 12: went way way out there. But it is scary but
Speaker 12: I'll tell you that there's one podcast that I love
Speaker 12: that covers many topics. Dan Carlin does a great job.
Speaker 12: He has this one podcast called Hardcore History. Our kids
Speaker 12: were learning about the ancient world and Persia and Greece
Speaker 12: and you know, the Trojan War, and so that would
Speaker 12: be one recommendation. But you do have as a parent,
Speaker 12: you've got to get involved. You know, these schools they
Speaker 12: want to set up sort of a wall between parental involvement.
Speaker 12: You know, whether it is regarding gender history or the curriculum.
Speaker 12: There's no sort of handshake between the parents and the schools.
Speaker 12: They want to take your kids and once they get
Speaker 12: in the school building, they've got them and they don't
Speaker 12: really want any parental involvement or you know, there's no
Speaker 12: way for the parents to sort of get in there
Speaker 12: and watch what's actually happening. But I think as a parent,
Speaker 12: you have to you have to make that happen.
Speaker 2: No, you do tell me about your podcast. Well, I
Speaker 2: have a podcast called Dedicated.
Speaker 12: Years ago, I started a book group for myself and
Speaker 12: other authors and we would pick a book and have
Speaker 12: a bunch of drinks and then discussed the book. And
Speaker 12: in the group was Harlan Coben and Nelson de Mill
Speaker 12: and Lee Child and Aymore Tols and a bunch of
Speaker 12: really great writers. And I was talking to some folks
Speaker 12: at Serious XM about it and they said, this is
Speaker 12: a show. You should do this, And so that's basically
Speaker 12: what I do. I have on terrific Writers. We start
Speaker 12: each episode with their favorite drink, so we've made Martinis
Speaker 12: and Manhattan's and Jack Carr we were just sipping bourbon,
Speaker 12: and then we talk about their lifestyle, though it's not
Speaker 12: really about the latest book. It's more about how they
Speaker 12: approached the lifestyle and how they approached their work and
Speaker 12: things they do when they're not writing, and how they
Speaker 12: got started and what it was like when nobody knew
Speaker 12: who they were. And so for anyone who has a
Speaker 12: writer they like, I've now done more than seventy shows,
Speaker 12: you'll probably find the writer on the library of episodes,
Speaker 12: and you'll really it's a great way to get to
Speaker 12: know the person.
Speaker 2: Doug.
Speaker 1: I wish more people just wrap this up here. I
Speaker 1: wish more people.
Speaker 2: Knew more about World War One.
Speaker 1: I understand why it got overshadowed, because in virtually every way,
Speaker 1: the second one was more terrible, more widespread.
Speaker 2: But man World War one was just.
Speaker 1: Butchery, unlike anything the world had ever seen on that scale.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and it really changed the way the world lived.
Speaker 12: Think about the number of empires that crumbled as a
Speaker 12: result of World War One. There was the Ottoman Empire,
Speaker 12: the Russian Empire, the German Empire, the Austria Hungary Empire.
Speaker 12: All of that went away, and the way people lived
Speaker 12: in Europe and the world really changed. It was a
Speaker 12: hinge point in history that that showed down to Abbey
Speaker 12: actually gets pretty well. We went from this feudal lifestyle
Speaker 12: and the Industrial Revolution was happening already, so people were
Speaker 12: moving to more urban centers and the economy was becoming
Speaker 12: more centralized. But World War One really accelerated that and
Speaker 12: changed the way people lived throughout Europe. And to your point,
Speaker 12: World War Two happened so much, so quickly on the
Speaker 12: heels of it that just as we are digesting this
Speaker 12: crazy calamity that really had no guiding principle to it.
Speaker 12: You know, when World War One ended, everyone looked around like,
Speaker 12: why the hell did we just do that? Was it
Speaker 12: a bunch of you know, petty rivalries between these monarchs
Speaker 12: who were cousins. You know, a number of the Russian Emperor,
Speaker 12: the German Emperor, and the King of England. They were
Speaker 12: all cousins, you know, and so it all they ended
Speaker 12: up fighting each other or with each other, and there
Speaker 12: was very little sort of guiding principle behind why it
Speaker 12: even happened. And just as we're trying to digest all that,
Speaker 12: as you say, world War two breaks out, So as
Speaker 12: a matter of covering it, historically it really was sort
Speaker 12: of paved over. And so I think there's a lot
Speaker 12: of unexplored history in there for people to examine and
Speaker 12: talk about.
Speaker 2: I agree, Doug, Thank you brother, come back soon.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. All right, don't don't, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: We have a great light in the mood for you next.
Speaker 1: All right, it is time to lighten the mood. And
Speaker 1: history is full of iconic duos who have changed the planet.
Speaker 2: It is full of it, Lewis.
Speaker 1: And Clark, Tom and Jerry Abbott and Costello, and so
Speaker 1: we thought to lighten the mood, we should honor what
Speaker 1: is probably going to be the next dual headed juggernaut
Speaker 1: that changes everything.
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