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Speaker 1: I am back, and I will finally give you my

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Speaker 1: thoughts on all the Trump stuff, on the Fauci nonsense

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Speaker 1: from today. Will Chamberlain is here. I'll the best, Stucky.

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Speaker 1: What an incredible return it's going to be.

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Speaker 2: And I'm right all right.

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Speaker 1: Before we begin, I need to put a couple of

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Speaker 1: disclaimers here. Yes, I know about all the Fauci testimony today.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to that in a couple minutes.

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Speaker 1: And look, just wait on that. I'll get to that

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Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes. But I was gone last week.

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Speaker 1: I was on vacation. I wasn't out sick, I was fine.

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Speaker 1: I was just on vacation. And of course I happen

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Speaker 1: to take a vacation when boom, the Trump trial, the

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Speaker 1: story of the year so far concludes and he gets

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Speaker 1: found guilty, and everybody and their brothers reached out to me, every.

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Speaker 2: Friend I have, every family member. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: So let me just lay it all out there and

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Speaker 1: let you know what I think about this thing. First,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you something. Be honest with yourself. You'll

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Speaker 1: have to be honest with me. Just be honest with yourself.

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Speaker 1: When when the verdict came down guilty, all thirty four

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Speaker 1: counts guilty.

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Speaker 2: I know you were mad. Everyone was mad mad. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Apoplectic, but everyone with some degree of mad. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: were sad. That was kind of more where I come from.

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Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a bitt But were you shocked?

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Speaker 1: That's really what I wanted to know. Were you shocked

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Speaker 2: Were you shocked?

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Speaker 1: And the reason I ask it is this, If you

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Speaker 1: not stupid, you know you're not.

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Speaker 2: You're none of those things. That's not what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But if it shocked you, then mentally you're not prepared

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Speaker 2: And this is what I mean by that.

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Speaker 1: We have major portions of this country, not the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: but major parts of this country are now fully controlled

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Speaker 1: by evil people who want to do you harm.

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Speaker 2: They want to do the country harm.

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Speaker 1: Now, maybe I just said that and you said, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get that, Jesse.

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Speaker 2: In that case, you're right where you need to be.

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Speaker 1: Maybe when I just said that these people want to

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Speaker 1: that made you, well, I don't know about that. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you even thought to yourself right when I said it,

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Speaker 1: Oh no, that's a little too far.

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Speaker 2: No, maybe a bad apple here or there.

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Speaker 3: But no.

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Speaker 1: If that's how you think, then you're not ready to

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Speaker 1: live in this country, and you need to get ready. There.

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Speaker 1: Nobody who watches this show regularly was surprised even that

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Speaker 1: much by what happened in the Trump trial. My goodness,

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Speaker 1: this is from over a year ago. I came on

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Speaker 1: and told you all this. Donald Trump was in very

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Speaker 1: serious trouble, legal trouble, not because he did anything wrong,

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Speaker 1: because we have parts of this nation now, New York

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Speaker 1: communists at every level. Oh, Jesse, But if it goes

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Speaker 1: to trial, he'll be fine. Do you have any idea

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Speaker 1: the percentage of Democrats versus Republicans in Manhattan where that

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Speaker 2: Do you know that Democrats in.

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Speaker 1: This country do genuinely believe Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler.

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Speaker 2: You think a jury of twelve is going to be.

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Speaker 1: Made up of anyone but communists, apparatchicks who've been dying

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Speaker 2: The wall forever.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is in serious legal trouble. Told you it

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Speaker 1: was coming. It's not about I told you so, why

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Speaker 1: I understand what we're dealing with. I understand and I

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Speaker 1: new outrage. And this isn't exactly the first outrage. There's

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Speaker 2: And if you want to avoid.

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Speaker 1: figure this out in your personal life, your business life,

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Speaker 2: You will make you will have it so much easier.

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Speaker 1: And if you can't figure it out, then life is

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Speaker 1: How could this happen? So here's a little historical example,

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Speaker 1: the Punic Wars. The Punic Wars were Rome versus Carthage.

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Speaker 1: You know Hannibal and all that stuff. Well, Hannibal was

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Speaker 1: a second Punic War, but let's talk about the third

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Speaker 1: This Roman senators would give up against speeches about it.

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Speaker 1: Some big shots down to Carthage and they walk into Carthage.

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Speaker 1: They kick in the front door and they say, hey, Carthage,

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Speaker 2: You have to give them to us as hostages.

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Speaker 1: Now that moment was such a critical moment, such a

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Speaker 1: But Carthage, they didn't understand the Romans and what they wanted,

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Speaker 2: And they were shocked, what we can't how could this happen?

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Speaker 2: How could it happen?

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Speaker 1: You didn't understand what you were dealing with? If you

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Speaker 1: in New York, you simply didn't understand Alvin Bragg. You

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Speaker 2: I did my job. We did our job. Many voices

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Speaker 1: The only voice that matters is the voice of the jury,

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Speaker 1: and the jury has spoken. He ran for office, sand

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Speaker 1: And there's no reason to be shocked. Alvin Bragg is

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Speaker 1: large part because of communists like George Soros who want

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Speaker 1: Elected to destroy Republicans, promised he would destroy Republicans, and

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, he's doing what he said he was

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Speaker 1: That's shocking, and the right doesn't get it. Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: has been the most legally persecuted politician in American history.

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Speaker 1: I think we could probably safely say that the man

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Speaker 1: it's inarguable.

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Speaker 2: And Trump just sat down for an interview.

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Speaker 1: This is after the man was just convicted on thirty

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Speaker 1: the whole Hillary Clinton locker up thing. This is what

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Speaker 4: You famously said regarding Hillary Clinton, locker up, you declined

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Speaker 2: As president, I beat her.

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Speaker 5: It's easier when you win. And they all said locker up.

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Speaker 5: And I felt and I could have done it, but

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Speaker 5: didn't say locker up, but the people don't say locker up.

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Speaker 5: And I's say and I said pretty openly. I said,

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Speaker 5: And perfectly and a perfectly stated accounting thing. But you know,

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Speaker 5: people also say, can you bring the country together? And

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Speaker 5: the answer is yes, success will bring the country together

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Speaker 1: No, we didn't come together. We're not going to come together.

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Speaker 1: We are going to fight. We are going to fight now.

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Speaker 1: Thankfully for the most part, it's a non violent fight.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want. I hope that's what you want.

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Speaker 1: But there's not going to be any coming together. Got

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Speaker 1: elected last time. Hey, let's let bygones be bygones. After all,

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Speaker 1: we got to get along, we got to come together.

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Speaker 1: Other that's the right wing mentality. The communist takes power

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Speaker 1: and he figures out how to destroy his enemies. Setting

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Speaker 1: aside whatever you think about any of this, there's only

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Speaker 2: If that's how we're going to play.

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Speaker 1: These guys intend to use their power to utterly annihilate

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Speaker 1: so they want to just let's not do that because

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Speaker 1: it would be mean. Well, I don't care which side

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Speaker 1: do nursery rhyme conservatism here. Let's exist in the real world.

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Speaker 1: In the real world, the guys who intend to destroy

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Speaker 1: Doctor Fauci's in the news today because he sat in

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Speaker 1: Everyone's mad today at Fauci too, ye, Fauci's liar Valuchi.

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Speaker 1: This Marjorie Taylor Green was out there today saying he

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Speaker 8: You know that what this committee should be doing. We

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Speaker 9: Mister Chairman, I have.

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Speaker 2: Okay good speech. Is he going to prison? No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: This is what the right simply doesn't understand. They don't

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Speaker 1: You're mad at that Judge Mershahn in New York, you're

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Speaker 2: And I'm mad at all these people too. We're mad,

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Speaker 1: These are not people who seek out your approval or

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Speaker 10: And yes, we should have locked Hillary Clinton up in

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Speaker 1: To dissuade an evil person from his evil.

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Speaker 2: You uncomfortable, but I am right.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to Will Chamberlain about Hunter Biden. Speaking

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Speaker 1: We'll be back, all right, Hunter Biden. Is he going

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Speaker 2: Though? Probably not?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he should looks pretty cut and dry to me,

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Speaker 2: But maybe I'm speaking out a turn here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the law. Jury selection began today.

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Speaker 1: Chamberlain knows all about a senior counsel for the Article

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Speaker 1: what's Hunter on trial for?

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Speaker 2: And is he going to prison? Yes?

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Speaker 3: I think Hunter's on trial for the two gun crimes,

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it's hard to figure out exactly how many

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Speaker 2: It's hard to make sense of all this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm pretty certain it's a separate case entirely.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Bo Biden's wife, Bo Biden's dead and Hunter

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Speaker 3: I guess Joe Biden met with a person who's about

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Speaker 3: And yet here you have the president is just blickly

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Speaker 3: I prefer he just like, let's get rid of the charade.

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Speaker 3: Pardon your son, Joe, Like we we know that's what

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Speaker 2: Crimes that he committed.

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Speaker 3: But like the making a mockery of the justice system

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Speaker 2: Is it illegal? Like is he allowed to do this?

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Speaker 2: In writing Okay, let's move on to the Trump situation.

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Speaker 1: Will I've seen a million different legal opinions on what

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Speaker 3: It's to signal that he's on team Progressive. And then

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Speaker 1: Well, can you explain, because you mentioned the appeals process

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Speaker 3: So you know, the judge will have to, you know,

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Speaker 3: It relies on a judge's discretion, and this judge has

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll dig into this a little bit more

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Speaker 2: Get you out of it.

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Speaker 1: These timeshare companies they lock you into these time shares.

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Speaker 1: They don't really advertise that when they're selling.

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Speaker 2: It to you.

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Speaker 1: You think you can get out when you're done with it.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Oh we used it for some years.

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Speaker 2: We're done with it.

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Speaker 1: And then they tell you no, it's a lifelong commitment.

446
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Speaker 1: Like you're married to the thing. You're not married to it.

447
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Speaker 1: Lone Star Transfer will get you out. They will legally

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Speaker 1: and permanently get you out. They guarantee it, and they

449
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Speaker 1: guarantee it in writing. Make a phone call, one phone

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Speaker 1: call and let them, set you free four four three

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Speaker 1: one zero two six four six, we'll be back. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to distract anybody from the big, flashy,

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Speaker 1: sexy political stories that are out there. Obviously we are

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Speaker 1: going to talk about those, and we have talked about those.

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Speaker 1: But normal people matter as much as famous people. You know,

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Speaker 1: law errors on everyone's mind now because Trump just got

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Speaker 1: convicted of thirty four felonies, which yes, our bogus. But

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Speaker 1: normal people who aren't famous, they're never going to be president.

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Speaker 1: Their lives matter just as much, and they're being destroyed.

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Speaker 1: A seventy five year old woman was just sentenced to

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Speaker 1: two years in the clink by Biden's the OJ and man,

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Speaker 1: what a.

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Speaker 2: Country we have? Now?

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Speaker 1: Joining me now, Ali Bethstucky, host of Relatable and by

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Speaker 1: the way, she's hosting an event called Share the Air,

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Speaker 1: which we will talk about a little later on.

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Speaker 2: Ali, give us an update. What is this?

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Speaker 1: Why are we sending a senior citizen woman to prison?

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Speaker 3: What you do?

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Speaker 6: Right from what I can gather, she was simply praying

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Speaker 6: outside of an abortion clinic. She was praying outside of

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Speaker 6: an abortion clinic. She wasn't harassing people, she wasn't pushing

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Speaker 6: people down. She didn't assault anyone. She was praying outside

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Speaker 6: of an abortion clinic. And you know she has fragile health,

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Speaker 6: as many seventy five year olds do, but her health

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Speaker 6: is particularly unstable, and her husband just begged for mercy

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Speaker 6: from this judge, saying, I'm afraid that she is going

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Speaker 6: to die. That picture of them right there, I'm afraid

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Speaker 6: that she is going to die in prison. And the

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Speaker 6: judge mocked this woman and said, oh, well, since she's

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Speaker 6: pro life, and she should work really hard at trying

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Speaker 6: to stay alive. So that is how our justice system treats,

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Speaker 6: as you said, the average individual, the powerless person who

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Speaker 6: dares stand against the murder of baby.

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Speaker 2: Ali.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, I talk about this a lot, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people get mad that we have a new religion

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Speaker 1: in this country.

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Speaker 2: We really, genuinely do.

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Speaker 1: You can tell a country's religion because you can see

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Speaker 1: it woven into everything. If I go to Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 1: and I turn on the television, I will see references

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Speaker 1: to Islam. If I walk in businesses, I'll see references

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Speaker 1: to Islam. If I do whatever, I will see Islamic references.

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Speaker 1: It's reflected in their laws. It's reflected in their government.

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Speaker 1: It's everything. If I go to Israel, it'll be Judaism.

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Speaker 1: Here in the United States of America, we like to

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Speaker 1: consider ourselves a Christian nation because we were founded by Christians.

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Speaker 1: We're not a Christian nation any longer. Go turn on

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Speaker 1: your television set or tune into the movies.

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Speaker 2: We're a gay country.

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Speaker 6: That's our religion, now, right, yep, you are absolutely right.

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Speaker 6: We are a country that worshiped at the altar of

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Speaker 6: basically the God of Self. Like if you want to

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Speaker 6: create an umbrella for the religious ideology that we follow,

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Speaker 6: because LGBTQ calls under it, but so does abortion, and

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Speaker 6: it might seem like those two things are totally unrelated,

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Speaker 6: but they're not. They're the worship of the God of Self.

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Speaker 6: They are the worship of your own feelings, your own desires,

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Speaker 6: and your own whims. And when that is what matters most,

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Speaker 6: then you will sacrifice anything, including the lives of babies,

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Speaker 6: on that altar. You will sacrifice your own body. That's,

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Speaker 6: of course, what we're seeing when we see the so

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Speaker 6: called gender ideology that justifies the butchering of the bodies

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Speaker 6: of children in the name of trying to change to

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Speaker 6: the opposite sex. That is worshiping the cruel god of self.

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Speaker 6: That is the religion, that is the dogma of the

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Speaker 6: United States, and it manifests itself in very bloodthirsty and

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Speaker 6: sexually depraved ways.

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Speaker 1: I saw an article USA today that there's a lot fewer,

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Speaker 1: a lot fewer.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that's not good.

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Speaker 1: English, but I'm white trash and what's the community college anyway?

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Speaker 1: There's less pride stuff out there, apparently from corporations this year,

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Speaker 1: and that is because corporations are afraid of backlash.

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Speaker 2: So I don't want to call a loss or less

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Speaker 2: of a loss.

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Speaker 1: A win, but are we gaining ground on this front

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Speaker 1: with all the corporate rainbow filth.

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Speaker 6: Look, I wouldn't say that we have won the battle,

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Speaker 6: or that we've even come close to winning the battle.

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Speaker 6: But I'm encouraged by this, even if it's just a

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Speaker 6: little bit. The fact that there was any backlash, that

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Speaker 6: there was any pushback, and that these corporations responded at all,

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Speaker 6: it's pretty incredible. Rather than only doubling down and saying,

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Speaker 6: you know what, I don't care what you say, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama,

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Speaker 6: we are going to double the chest binders in the

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Speaker 6: packing bathing suits that we're going to sell at Target

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Speaker 6: this year. The fact that they're dialing back, even if

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Speaker 6: it's regional, even if it's just a little bit, I

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Speaker 6: do see as a positive sign. Now, don't let this

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Speaker 6: conservatives make you comfortable. Don't say Okay, well you've given

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Speaker 6: in and now I'm going to go back to Target

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Speaker 6: this June. I've gone three years without Target, and I'm

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Speaker 6: going strong. It is totally possible. Continue to send the

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Speaker 6: message and say no until you are done with this

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Speaker 6: stuff completely.

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Speaker 2: You do not get my business.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've got to develop a killer mentality. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: needing to develop a different mentality, where's the church?

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Speaker 2: Ali?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not indicting every church in this country by

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Speaker 1: any means, but I personally have had to leave more

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Speaker 1: than one because of this mellly mouth crap you hear

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Speaker 1: from the pulpit out there.

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Speaker 2: What would just love and the stones and love?

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Speaker 1: And we have this hippie Jesus who apparently never stood

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Speaker 1: for anything and certainly never got mad or called anybody names.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what Bible this guy's supposedly from, But

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Speaker 1: what happened to the American church?

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Speaker 2: And when did it? Lose its balls, right.

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Speaker 6: Well, unfortunately, this is even true among churches that call

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Speaker 6: themselves conservative Christian churches, maybe churches that aren't fully pro LGBTQ.

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Speaker 6: They say that they are on the Conserva five side

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Speaker 6: of things, but they just won't.

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Speaker 2: Talk about it.

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Speaker 6: They won't talk about it. They will maybe kind of

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Speaker 6: pay homage to BLM in the name of social justice,

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Speaker 6: but they won't talk about all of the other controversial

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Speaker 6: stuff because it's too divisive and too political. But for

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Speaker 6: the Christian these are not primarily political issues, the primarily

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Speaker 6: biblical issues.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 6: Genis is one issues, and Genesis is one we see

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Speaker 6: the definition of gender, of marriage, of the family, the

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Speaker 6: value of human life because we're made in God's image.

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Speaker 6: So if you have a pastor who, because they're afraid

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Speaker 6: of offending people, won't even preach the first chapter of

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Speaker 6: the First Book of the Bible because they're afraid it's

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Speaker 6: too political, then that's not a pastor. That's a coward,

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Speaker 6: and a coward is not a good shepherd of the flock.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about share the arrows? Do I have to

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Speaker 1: take arrows with you?

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Speaker 9: Ali?

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Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like fun.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, it's not really fun. But we're not

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Speaker 6: living in an age where it's fun to be a Christian,

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Speaker 6: a Christian that really cares about Christian theology and stands

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Speaker 6: up for it in the public fear there are arrows

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Speaker 6: headed our way. And I think you talked about this

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Speaker 6: a lot. The natural propensity for all of us when

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Speaker 6: we see someone standing up for something that we believe in,

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00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 6: but they're getting bullied for it, they're getting fired for it,

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Speaker 6: they're getting reamed for it publicly, they're getting dragged whatever.

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Speaker 6: The natural tendency is to say, oh, I'm glad that's

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Speaker 6: not me. I've learned my lesson. Now I'm not going

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Speaker 6: to pray outside of the clinic. Now I'm not going

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Speaker 6: to resist the LGBTQ lobby, whatever it is. Rather than

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Speaker 6: doing that towering in the corner, we should be standing

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Speaker 6: off and saying, no, you know what, what are our

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Speaker 6: arrows you are launching at that person than of my

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Speaker 6: way too. I'll take them too. And that's not without consequence,

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00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 6: that's not without danger, but it is the only way

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Speaker 6: to push back. It is the only way to inspire courage,

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Speaker 6: courage beget courage. Courage is contagious, and when we all

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Speaker 6: stand up together. I'm not saying that we have the

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Speaker 6: power to change the trajectory of the country. I hope

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Speaker 6: we do. Maybe not, but at the very least, we

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Speaker 6: can remind each other that we are on the right side,

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Speaker 6: that we are on the side of truth, and we

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Speaker 6: can keep each other sane. That's what this event is about.

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Speaker 6: Share the arrows in Dallas, Texas on September twenty eighth.

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Speaker 6: We've got Rosario Butterfield, Lisa Childers, Abby Halberstadt for just

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Speaker 6: about a steally, I will be speaking too. You'll be

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Speaker 6: coming together with thousands of like minded women to be

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Speaker 6: equipped and empowered to face the craziness and the chaos

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Speaker 6: of our age.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 1: That's quite a lot of If I wasn't a dude,

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Speaker 1: I would show up with that anyway. Ali appreciate you

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Speaker 1: as always. All Right, we've got Doug Brunt. Talk a

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Speaker 1: little history with Doug. Is Megan Kelly's husband. Before we

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Speaker 1: get to Doug, let's talk about your coffee. I want

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Speaker 1: you to drink better coffee. I'm not insulting the quality

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Speaker 1: of your cup of coffee, but the coffee company itself. Look,

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Speaker 1: you want an eye opener. Where do you get your coffee.

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Speaker 1: Go look up the name of that company in Pride month.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what you see on that.

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Speaker 1: I can look up Blackout Coffee all day long. You

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Speaker 1: know what I see? References to God, country life dons.

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Speaker 1: Blackout Coffee shares and promotes my values, and they deliver

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Speaker 1: me the best coffee I've ever tasted in my life.

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Speaker 2: There's only one place I'll go.

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Speaker 1: Blackoutcoffee dot com slash Jesse saves you twenty percent off

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Speaker 1: your first order two, So go get some.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back.

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Speaker 9: There's wrongdoing here, right, There was definitely wrongdoing. Whether it

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Speaker 9: should have been a crime. As a separate what's the wrongdoing?

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Speaker 9: What's the wrongdoing?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: Number one?

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Speaker 9: It's paying one hundred and thirty thousand dollars to a

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Speaker 9: porn star to keep her quiet. That's work to try

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Speaker 9: to protect your campaign. Can we at least agree that's wrong?

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Speaker 9: That's not illegal when you're doing it to protect the

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Speaker 9: campaign and you are spending money on it. It then

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Speaker 9: now I'm going to switch back to the legal You

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Speaker 9: are now crossing the line into legal problems, right aren't.

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Speaker 11: That's no, absolutely not right, incorrect at every level. There's

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Speaker 11: nothing illegal about paying hush money for an NDA, it's done.

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Speaker 9: There's when you're doing it to protect your campaign.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 9: That's the difference.

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Speaker 1: But what law?

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Speaker 9: What law are you citing? Dan Camp and finance laws?

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Speaker 9: You're not allowed to.

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Speaker 11: You don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: What you're wrong.

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Speaker 9: Explain to me, tell me what I'm.

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Speaker 11: Going to.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 11: Because you're saying that there are limits to the campaign

663
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Speaker 11: contribution somebody could make and this is exceeded them and

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Speaker 11: then they hit it. I understand that's his theory. However,

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Speaker 11: this has been wrong from the start. It does not

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Speaker 11: amount to a campaign contribution if it is the kind

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Speaker 11: of payment that could ever be made outside of the

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Speaker 11: campaign standard.

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Speaker 9: The standard is substantiality. It's not yes, it you wrong?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess we're gonna do agree.

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Speaker 11: There's been Supreme Court president on this.

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Speaker 9: Court that the standard of substantiality.

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Speaker 1: All right, joining me now, Meghan Kelly's husband. He wrote

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Speaker 1: the coolest freaking book that me and my wife enjoy,

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Speaker 1: the mysterious case of Rudolph Diesel, which I will get

676
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Speaker 1: to in a little bit. But Doug Brunt joins me. Now, okay, Doug, look,

677
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Speaker 1: far be it from me to get involved in anyone's

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Speaker 1: marriage or anything like that. But I just have to

679
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Speaker 1: say I love Meghan and I hate Dan Abrams, and

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Speaker 1: I found myself feeling bad for him there.

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Speaker 2: What's it like to argue with your wife? Do you

682
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Speaker 2: have to do?

683
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Speaker 1: You take extra prep time? I would take a lot

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Speaker 1: of prep time if that was me.

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Speaker 12: You know, it's so funny. She was just telling this

686
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Speaker 12: story the other night. So we actually don't fight that much.

687
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Speaker 12: We see things pretty much. I to eye on the

688
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Speaker 12: kids and other things. But about a year ago, we

689
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Speaker 12: had a low out fight and I was in bed

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Speaker 12: and it was like bedtime. We were going to bed,

691
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Speaker 12: but it wasn't happening. We're having a huge blowout. And

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Speaker 12: I made one comment too many and she went into

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Speaker 12: two middle fingers raised, sort of shaking him back and forth,

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Speaker 12: deep knee bend, and I realized and I pointed like, oh,

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Speaker 12: you know, in the midst of this huge fight. The

696
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Speaker 12: whole scene was so funny to me, I go double barrel.

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Speaker 12: We're in new territory here, so normally my strategy is

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Speaker 12: just sort of you know, opening position and run for

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Speaker 12: the hills, because the more you engage it never it

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Speaker 12: never goes my way.

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Speaker 1: You want to do it more of a World War

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Speaker 1: One strategy where you just dig into your trench and

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Speaker 1: kind of stay there.

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Speaker 2: And that Actually, how about.

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Speaker 1: That segue, Doug that leads me to your book, which

706
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Speaker 1: I want to get to before I get to anything else.

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Speaker 2: Rudolph Diesel.

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Speaker 1: People they have heard of Diesel, right, but they have

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Speaker 1: never heard of Rudolph unless they're talking about the reindeer.

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Speaker 2: Will you explain just a bit about this book.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to find a book that I and my

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Speaker 1: wife both enjoy.

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Speaker 12: It has elements of everything. It's sort of a biography

714
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Speaker 12: and a nineteenth century primer. But it also turns into

715
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Speaker 12: this Agatha Christie mystery at the end because in nineteen thirteen,

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Speaker 12: right before World War One, Rudolph Diesel disappeared and at

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Speaker 12: the time he was a huge celebrity, like the Elon

718
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Speaker 12: Musk of the day. And when he disappeared off this

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Speaker 12: passenger ship in the North Sea, people thought he might

720
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Speaker 12: have been murdered, either by Rockefeller or by Kaiser Wilhelm,

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Speaker 12: the Emperor of Germany. And there's a whole mystery around

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Speaker 12: it because diesel technology was just emerging, I mean even

723
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Speaker 12: still today, it's the primary power source for the world.

724
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Speaker 12: It completely powers the global economy to this day, but

725
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Speaker 12: one hundred years ago is just emerging. It was the

726
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Speaker 12: only option for submarines and U boats. Every navy in

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Speaker 12: Europe was scrambling for diesel power to establish their submarine

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Speaker 12: and U boat program. So that's why he was sought

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Speaker 12: after by all the governments of Europe. But it also

730
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Speaker 12: could run on a range of fuels, including nut oil

731
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Speaker 12: or coal tar, and that's actually true to this day.

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Speaker 12: It's very flexible with regard to fuels. So he disappears,

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Speaker 12: and it's a huge mystery that I saw of in

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Speaker 12: the book.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you to give it away.

736
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Speaker 1: People can go get it. Highly recommend you get it.

737
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Speaker 1: But along those lines, we're told so many lies by

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Speaker 1: history books. I'm sure the more I'm sure you are

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Speaker 1: a historian, or at least a history fan. I'm a

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Speaker 1: history fan, and it blows me away, dog, how many

741
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Speaker 1: different I'll read five different sources and have five different

742
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Speaker 1: versions of the exact same event, with five different sets

743
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Speaker 1: of facts, for dates, for names, for this or that.

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Speaker 1: It makes me question everything. I look at all this

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Speaker 1: Trump trial nonsense and I think, what are the history

746
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Speaker 1: books going to write? It feels like we've always been

747
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Speaker 1: lied to about everything.

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Speaker 2: Is that too extreme?

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Speaker 12: It's always been there. There's always been part is in

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Speaker 12: coverage in newspapers. Even in the events surrounding Diesel's disappearance

751
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Speaker 12: in the weeks after, there was all sorts of conflicting

752
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Speaker 12: reporting in the newspapers, you know, and as history gets it,

753
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Speaker 12: you know, as the saying goes what you and Meghan

754
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Speaker 12: and Dan Abrams are doing, you're writing the first draft

755
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Speaker 12: of history. There's a lot of conflicting reporting there. And

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Speaker 12: I think in the same way that consume of news

757
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 12: today need to go to multiple sources. You know, you

758
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Speaker 12: need to listen to Jesse Kelly and Megan Kelly and

759
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Speaker 12: the Daily from the New York Times as you cover history.

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Speaker 12: If you want to learn about World War One, you

761
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Speaker 12: should read Barbara Tuckman, who's a little more Allied friendly.

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Speaker 12: And then there's another terrific book by Christopher Clark called Sleepwalkers,

763
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Speaker 12: which has a little bit more of a of a

764
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Speaker 12: German perspective of how things got started and went down.

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Speaker 12: So it's always good to multi source, whether it's today's

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Speaker 12: news or history.

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Speaker 1: Doug I want to focus on the history aspect of

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Speaker 1: this because this is one of the things that drives

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Speaker 1: me crazy trying to find something modern historically that's not

770
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Speaker 1: completely twisted twisted up as being anti West, anti American,

771
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Speaker 1: and they're out there Hampton Sides read some great things,

772
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: but look, you downloaded some random history podcast, you'll be

773
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Speaker 1: ten minutes into it and learn just how bad America sucks.

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Speaker 1: So if you're a parent and you want to learn

775
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Speaker 1: more about history, you want your kids to learn more

776
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Speaker 1: about history, where do you send them? You guys, have

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Speaker 1: you have kids, what do you do? What do you

778
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Speaker 1: tell them? Where do you send them?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 12: Right now, we actually had to switch schools for some

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Speaker 12: of this because when our kids were, you know, second grade,

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Speaker 12: they were doing an American Revolution project and they didn't

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Speaker 12: know George.

784
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Speaker 2: They knew the names of fifteen slaves.

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Speaker 12: They're sort of doing it from that perspective, but it

786
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Speaker 12: was their first go at learning the American Revolution and

787
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Speaker 12: they didn't know after two months who George Washington was.

788
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Speaker 12: They were learning everything else, and that school has actually

789
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Speaker 12: sort of walked back a lot of it's curriculum that

790
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Speaker 12: went way way out there. But it is scary but

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Speaker 12: I'll tell you that there's one podcast that I love

792
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Speaker 12: that covers many topics. Dan Carlin does a great job.

793
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Speaker 12: He has this one podcast called Hardcore History. Our kids

794
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 12: were learning about the ancient world and Persia and Greece

795
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Speaker 12: and you know, the Trojan War, and so that would

796
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Speaker 12: be one recommendation. But you do have as a parent,

797
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 12: you've got to get involved. You know, these schools they

798
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Speaker 12: want to set up sort of a wall between parental involvement.

799
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Speaker 12: You know, whether it is regarding gender history or the curriculum.

800
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Speaker 12: There's no sort of handshake between the parents and the schools.

801
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 12: They want to take your kids and once they get

802
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Speaker 12: in the school building, they've got them and they don't

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00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 12: really want any parental involvement or you know, there's no

804
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Speaker 12: way for the parents to sort of get in there

805
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Speaker 12: and watch what's actually happening. But I think as a parent,

806
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 12: you have to you have to make that happen.

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Speaker 2: No, you do tell me about your podcast. Well, I

808
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 2: have a podcast called Dedicated.

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Speaker 12: Years ago, I started a book group for myself and

810
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 12: other authors and we would pick a book and have

811
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 12: a bunch of drinks and then discussed the book. And

812
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 12: in the group was Harlan Coben and Nelson de Mill

813
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 12: and Lee Child and Aymore Tols and a bunch of

814
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 12: really great writers. And I was talking to some folks

815
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Speaker 12: at Serious XM about it and they said, this is

816
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 12: a show. You should do this, And so that's basically

817
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 12: what I do. I have on terrific Writers. We start

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00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 12: each episode with their favorite drink, so we've made Martinis

819
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 12: and Manhattan's and Jack Carr we were just sipping bourbon,

820
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 12: and then we talk about their lifestyle, though it's not

821
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 12: really about the latest book. It's more about how they

822
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 12: approached the lifestyle and how they approached their work and

823
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 12: things they do when they're not writing, and how they

824
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 12: got started and what it was like when nobody knew

825
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Speaker 12: who they were. And so for anyone who has a

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Speaker 12: writer they like, I've now done more than seventy shows,

827
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Speaker 12: you'll probably find the writer on the library of episodes,

828
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 12: and you'll really it's a great way to get to

829
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Speaker 12: know the person.

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Speaker 2: Doug.

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Speaker 1: I wish more people just wrap this up here. I

832
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: wish more people.

833
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: Knew more about World War One.

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Speaker 1: I understand why it got overshadowed, because in virtually every way,

835
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: the second one was more terrible, more widespread.

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00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: But man World War one was just.

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Speaker 1: Butchery, unlike anything the world had ever seen on that scale.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and it really changed the way the world lived.

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Speaker 12: Think about the number of empires that crumbled as a

840
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Speaker 12: result of World War One. There was the Ottoman Empire,

841
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 12: the Russian Empire, the German Empire, the Austria Hungary Empire.

842
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 12: All of that went away, and the way people lived

843
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 12: in Europe and the world really changed. It was a

844
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Speaker 12: hinge point in history that that showed down to Abbey

845
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 12: actually gets pretty well. We went from this feudal lifestyle

846
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 12: and the Industrial Revolution was happening already, so people were

847
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 12: moving to more urban centers and the economy was becoming

848
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 12: more centralized. But World War One really accelerated that and

849
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Speaker 12: changed the way people lived throughout Europe. And to your point,

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Speaker 12: World War Two happened so much, so quickly on the

851
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Speaker 12: heels of it that just as we are digesting this

852
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 12: crazy calamity that really had no guiding principle to it.

853
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 12: You know, when World War One ended, everyone looked around like,

854
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 12: why the hell did we just do that? Was it

855
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 12: a bunch of you know, petty rivalries between these monarchs

856
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 12: who were cousins. You know, a number of the Russian Emperor,

857
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 12: the German Emperor, and the King of England. They were

858
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 12: all cousins, you know, and so it all they ended

859
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 12: up fighting each other or with each other, and there

860
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 12: was very little sort of guiding principle behind why it

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Speaker 12: even happened. And just as we're trying to digest all that,

862
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Speaker 12: as you say, world War two breaks out, So as

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Speaker 12: a matter of covering it, historically it really was sort

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Speaker 12: of paved over. And so I think there's a lot

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Speaker 12: of unexplored history in there for people to examine and

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Speaker 12: talk about.

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Speaker 2: I agree, Doug, Thank you brother, come back soon.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. All right, don't don't, don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: We have a great light in the mood for you next.

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Speaker 1: All right, it is time to lighten the mood. And

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Speaker 1: history is full of iconic duos who have changed the planet.

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Speaker 2: It is full of it, Lewis.

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Speaker 1: And Clark, Tom and Jerry Abbott and Costello, and so

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Speaker 1: we thought to lighten the mood, we should honor what

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Speaker 12: size of a regular cheese it.

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Speaker 2: I know where I'm going for dinner. I'll see it

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Speaker 2: them all