WEBVTT - SYSK’s Summer Movie Playlist: How Stuntmen (and -women) Work 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:03.119 Hi, everybody. Back to the Stuff you Should Know Summer 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:06.760 Movie playlist, and this one is from January twenty thirteen. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.760 It's our House Stuntmen and Women Work episode. I think 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.320 your socks are gonna be knocked off by how hard 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:17.560 these people work for our movie viewing Enjoyment. You enjoy too. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:29.400 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know Fromhoustuffworks dot com. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.400 Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.960 Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and this is Stuff you Should Know. 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.360 Old Jerry had an itchy trigger finger today. Age you 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:38.760 here in there? 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:40.000 Yeah, she's ready to go home. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.120 Yeah, she's like, come on, three, do you want to go? 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:45.479 You guys aren't my entire life. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:47.599 I know we like to think we are, but that is, 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.280 we're like zero point one percent of Jerry's life. Yeah, 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:56.120 she's giggling in there. She's quite the adventurer. How you doing, man, 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.440 I'm great, man. I'm ready to jump from a tall 0:00:58.440 --> 0:00:59.880 building or roll a brand new car. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.680 Man. Sorry, that's what I was gonna ask you. So, 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:05.200 I guess you did the intro for us. 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:08.920 Go ahead, let's pretend like that didn't happen. No, it's 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.039 fine Okay, you were just. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.080 Doing what the theme from The Fall Guy starring Lee 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.720 Majors nineteen eighties, awesome TV show with probably the best 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.360 truck ever featured in a TV show. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.480 That gmc man. That thing is sweet. Yeah, you know, 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.320 dudes recreate that truck if you google it. There's a 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.319 lot of guys that have like made that truck for themselves. 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:30.600 For good reason too. It's a cool truck. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:34.160 Yeah, And it's interesting that The Fall Guy points out 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.680 a couple of the show itself points out a very 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.440 important things as far as stuntman go. One is that 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.800 he had to moonlight as a bounty hunter, and that's 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:45.759 kind of one of the things we'll learn is that 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.800 there's not a lot of work out there and to 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:50.680 go around, you know, like, it's tough to make it 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:51.400 as a stunt man. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.400 Yeah, you get punched. 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.640 And b he's if you look at the lyrics to 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.400 that theme song man, he is really salty about not 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.320 getting the glo, glory and the. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:06.280 Girls, mainly the girls and the glory. He uh well, 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.800 when he winds up in the hey, it's only hey, 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:09.239 hey hey. 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.680 Uh So the song complains about not getting glory or women, 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.200 and that is One of the hallmarks, though, of the 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.720 stunt person is to remain anonymous. 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:20.920 And to be bitter about it. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.800 I guess so very few stunt people you've ever heard of? 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:29.200 Well, yeah, they're the Academy of Arts and Sciences. They 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.680 give out the Academy Awards. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:32.400 Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:37.120 Yeah, they don't have a category for stunt people. Nope, 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.560 never have. And the reason some people give is because 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.560 they like to maintain the anonymity and the illusion. Sure 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.960 that's provided by stunt people filling in his doubles for stars. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.480 Yeah, but you can win a What Will See Award. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:54.040 You can win an Emmy for Best Stunt Coordinator. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.840 True, or the Stunt Award. They had their own Stunt Awards. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.919 Oh yeah, the Taurus World Stunt Awards. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:00.959 Yeah, you can win a Tory. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.119 They took a hiatus. I saw that there was twenty 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.079 ten and then they're having stuff for twenty twelve. Couldn't 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.120 find anything about twenty eleven. Really, Yeah, so if you 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.960 know what happened to the Tourist World Stunt Awards for 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.480 twenty eleven, we are curious. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.240 Interesting, let us know, So thanks for listening. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.840 So anyway, well, let's talk about the history of stunt people. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.800 They pretty much have only been around as long as 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:33.799 you've had motion pictures. Right, Yeah, there wasn't much of 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.320 a need for him before then. No, I mean maybe 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.320 for like a show or something like that, like a 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.400 wild Bill Hickcock show. Oh, I guess you call them 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.280 stunt men, but really you kind of want to differentiate 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.320 because you can also say, all right, so people who 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.400 ride horses on standing up on a horse's back, that's 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:53.400 a stunt person. Yeah, right, A guy who likes in 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:57.240 the X Games, those extreme sports kids, sure that all 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:01.280 the kids are into these days, that's a stunt. These 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.840 are by, you know, technically stunt people. What we're talking 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.440 about are movie stunt people, sure. And the whole point 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:12.120 to their craft isn't to, like, you know, do a 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.960 five to eighty on a bike unless somebody asks them to. 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.720 What they want to do is create what you would 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.880 just take for granted, like, oh, that guy just got clocked, right, No, 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.159 he didn't actually get clocked. That was a stunt man 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.240 who knows what he's doing, and that was a carefully 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.520 choreographed scene that just flew right past you. But it's 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.000 still your brain still just absorbed it as that man 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.159 just got punched even though they didn't really happen. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.159 That's right, And we will probably slip into the word 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.279 stuntman here and there instead of stunt people. Of course, 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:44.760 there were tons and tons of stunt women, but we'll 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:49.000 say stunt persons are stunt man and like luckily there 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:50.640 are women now. In the back in the day, they 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.680 would dress men as women to do stunts many times. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.240 Yeah, there's a lot of cross dressing back in the day, there. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.280 Was until they decided, hey, women are people too, can 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.560 act and do stunts right, just like guys can. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.839 We could put them in danger just as much as well. Exactly, so, 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.719 so there wasn't much call for stunt people for movies 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.839 before movies just by definition. Sure, don't be ridiculous, but 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.320 right out of the gate when we started making movies, 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:20.360 we started needing people to do stunts. And the earliest 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.600 people who were doing stunts were actually comedians, slapstick comedians 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.200 like Buster Keaton had a very famous early. 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:27.800 Stunt steamboat Bill Junior. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:28.800 Is that what it was in? 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.840 Yeah, the very famous you've probably seen it in like 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.360 you know, Hollywood legends of screen clips and things like that. 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.160 On AMC. Yeah, it is the famous shot where the 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:42.640 front facade of a house falls down and on well 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.640 would have been on Buster Keaton, but he is saved 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.560 because the attic window or attic door was open, so 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.719 it just falls all around him. And there was some 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.800 careful measuring in place, because if he would have been 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.160 off by a few inches, he would have been dead. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.960 Yeah, and that was a real thing, Like the earliest 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.640 dunts were nothing, but the real thing. Like apparently if 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:08.279 you had I don't know, somebody hanging from like the 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:13.200 construction the skeleton of a steel skyscraper, yeah, you needed 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.520 that shot. That's what the guy did. 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.640 Yeah, and they ed the grabster wrote this one, of course, 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.320 and Ed points out that back in the day before 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.360 they were like, you know, before they called them stuntmen, 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.039 they were just like, let me go find someone crazy 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.760 enough to go do this exactly, and that guy, that 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.680 guy craft Service, looks crazy enough to do it, and 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.520 let's go see if he wants an extra twenty bucks. 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.400 Yeah, and he does. Yeah, because Beck, you know, in 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.159 nineteen oh two, twenty bucks was a lot. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:40.760 Sure. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:47.479 So as the film industry grew and grew early in 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.880 the twentieth century, we went from just nothing but slapstick 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:56.360 comedies to things like westerns and action flicks, and all 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.440 of a sudden, those people who really can ride on 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.080 the back of a horse standing out became stunt people 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:05.120 as well. And as stunts became more and more complex, 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.840 the idea of having somebody whose job and specialty was 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.000 to just do the stunt and make it look like 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:17.320 the actor the star sure was doing it started to 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:18.040 really develop. 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.480 Yeah, and then flash forward even more the sixties and 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.520 seventies is when things really came to their own as 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:29.520 far as stunt technology developing. Things like squibs, which we 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:35.680 will talk about for gunshots and air rams. Is that 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:36.200 what they're called. 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:41.400 Yeah, it's like a like a hydratic lift. Yeah, it's pneumatic, 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.000 just shoots you up into the air like with a 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:44.880 human cannonball. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:45.640 Right. 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.080 But like so if somebody, if a grenade blows up 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.240 by somebody and you see the dude fly through the air, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.160 he was on a ram, that's right. 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:58.160 And then other things like airbags and and you know, 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.840 more technology with cars with the cages, like it just 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.120 got more and more complex, right, And now of course 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.560 we have CGI which replaces a lot of stunts in 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:07.680 many cases. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.880 Not necessarily to a better effect. Like all I have 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:16.200 to say is Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Yeah, where 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.880 it was like they suddenly cut to drawings of Harrison 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.160 Ford swinging on a lasso. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.520 He's famous for doing his own stunts, though. 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.360 He didn't do him And Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.640 Well, this's because he's eighty nine years old. Then he 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:29.520 would die. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:31.880 He was awesome in Bruno. 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:34.800 I didn't see that. Was he Harrison Borders in that? 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.240 Yeah for about two seconds. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.199 Did they do like gay jokes to him or something? 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:40.719 They didn't even get that far? 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.960 Okay, yeah, did he just shut it down? 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:48.880 Yeah? All it's hilarious. But anyway, so stunts like the 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:53.160 I guess throughout this progression of the field of stunt people, 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.839 safety has gotten better and better, is what I think 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.679 we were just trying to say. To the point now 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:02.600 where they're not even used it's gi Yeah, but there's 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.160 there's always going to be room for stunt people. 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:05.600 Oh yeah. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.920 Uh. And the fact that it's gotten safer is much better. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:12.360 But there's still there's an element of risk to it 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.440 no matter what it's grabs or points out. If a 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.280 stunt didn't present some sort of risk, there'd be no 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.280 need for stunt people at all, as tractors would do it. Yeah, 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.240 but the actors can't always do it. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.319 That's right. Uh. And when you want to call in 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.840 a stunt person is when they either have a specific 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.600 skill that they're really good at, like fake martial arts 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.120 or I mean real martial arts, but fake hitting and kicking, or. 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.360 Fake marshals like chew kwong like stuff you just made up. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.640 It's a lot of like just front kits in the air. 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.080 That's what you practice. 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:45.360 That's a quong. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.040 Sword fighting, stage combat, like we've talked about stuff like that. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.040 They are trained to fall, they are trained to you know, 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.800 safely fall. I guess I should point out. And it 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:00.800 just basically it's a safety factor on one and it's 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.760 a financial factor on the other, because you can't have 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:07.400 your main actor actress going down with a broken leg, 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.080 yeah for four weeks, So you put your stunt person 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:11.640 in there and keep your actor all license safe in 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:12.160 their trailer. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:12.880 Yeah. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:17.080 Or you want to be shooting two things at once, 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.160 so you have your second unit out there shooting the 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.640 fast cars whizzing by in the car chase. Then you 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.720 have your first unit shooting the actor inside the car 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.080 driving a lot slower and acting like it's really. 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.400 Fast but shouting and like moving the steering wheel back 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.160 and forth a lot. Yeah, maybe there's somebody rocking the car. 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:36.520 What's that called. 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:38.840 Poor men's process? 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:39.360 Yeah? 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.199 Is yeah, so when you, I guess we should say this, 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.360 when you're in a car, you either have a camera 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.560 rig on your car where it's the real car with 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.520 cameras attached to it. We've done that, or the cars 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.080 on a process trailer, which means a lot of these 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.000 shots you see with someone driving and you're like, they're 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:55.880 not even paying attention to the road. Yeah, it's because 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:57.839 the car sitting on a trailer being pulled by a. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.319 Truck, right, Or it's got a little rock to it. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:01.880 A little rock to it, or you do the poor 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.880 man's process was when the car is not going anywhere and. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:06.840 You have PA's pushing on the outside. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.960 Pushing on the outside, little tricks with lighting to make 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.800 it look like headlights going by. 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:11.640 We've done that. 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.800 It's really neat in the end to look at a 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.880 scene that's poor man's process and think, wow, they're really 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:18.280 not even moving and it looks so good. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.120 Yeah. Yeah, see if you can pick it out and 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.199 the stuff you should know TV series, they can probably 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:28.480 pick it up. So yeah, it's financial. It makes sense. Also, 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.840 one of the other reasons people use stunt people is 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.720 they come with a set of skills that the average 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.480 actor doesn't have a particular set of skills exactly. That 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.360 makes them very dangerous to you. And so you can 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.559 either hire a stuntman who looks like your star to 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.319 carry out like a combat scene or sort of look 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.960 like your star, or you can teach your star, you know, 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.080 spend all this extra money and time to training the 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.199 star to the skill in a crash course. So it 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.040 just most of the time it makes sense to just 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:58.560 hire a stunt person. Yeah. 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.360 And you know, chances are these days you're going to 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.080 get a mix in a big action movie, you're gonna 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.040 get a mix of all three. You're gonna get some CGI, 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.160 you're gonna get some stunt people, and these days you're 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.600 gonna get real actors doing some of the real fake fighting. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.720 Doesn't Tom Cruise do a lot of his own stunts? 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:14.800 Yeah, I got a list of actors who prefer to 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.880 do us. I don't mean to jump the gun No, 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:18.400 the Cruse is famous for that. 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.520 I was reading this and I was like, I wonder 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.880 if I would do my own stunts. I would do some. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.720 I would say, sure, I want to learn how to 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.080 sword fight. Teach me that's something I want to know, 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.200 and I'm certainly not going to shell out for it myself, ever, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.720 so let's go ahead and learn. 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.040 Now, that's a good point. I would do my own stunts. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.079 It depends the heights. 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.240 No way I would do that. I would jump off 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.520 so California state law. And of course they shoot movies 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.120 all over the place now and the union rules in 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:52.000 Hollywood have really made it pretty safe these days. But 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.559 you're still going to find injuries in your occasional death 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.400 on set, which is really awful. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.560 Yeah. Well, there always have been, pretty much from the beginning, 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:02.000 deaths and injuries. 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:03.240 Howard Hughes. 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.040 Yeah, the movie Hell's Angels, which we must have talked 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.480 about in the Hell's Angels podcast. I'm sure we did, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.439 because I think we talked about the origin. 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.079 Of the name, which was from the air combat. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.480 It was, you know, that's what they think the fighting. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.400 I think that was one of the theories. But there 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:24.760 were three, maybe four fatalities yeah, because they were doing 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.000 like real dog fights with airplanes and there were a 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.240 lot of crashes. Yeah, so that was a movie where 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:30.920 people died. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:35.640 Yes, very famously the Twilight Zone, the movie Jennifer Jason 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:40.160 Lee's father, Vic Morrow, and two little Vietnamese kids died 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.240 when a helicopter crashed into the water where they were 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:49.200 crossing a river. That's on YouTube, by the way. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:50.760 I know, it's pretty awful. 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.560 It is, and I saw it recently because I was 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:56.080 just curious. I'd always wondered how it went down in 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:57.840 my head because I've heard the story since the movie 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.200 came out, since I was a kid, and I was wondering, like, 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.680 exactly what was the logistics and how did that go down. 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.400 It's pretty bad to watch, it is, because it just 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:06.679 goes totally out of control. 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.680 It does, so I would not recommend that, but you 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.720 do have to enter your age, by the way to 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:17.600 watch that video I saw. Yeah, And on set, the 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:22.560 ad is ultimately responsible the assistant director for everyone's safety, 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.280 and in fact, on our own little TV show, when 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.920 we had fake guns on set just as props. Yeah, 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.240 like we didn't even use them in the scene, but 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.000 just to have a fake gun on set, the ad 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.800 has to announce to the whole crew and show them 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.480 the gun. Say it's fake, it's not real. Look at 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.000 the barrel. There's no bullets, there's no nothing. It will 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.480 not be fired. We will not be shooting blanks or 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.840 dummy cartridges. And it's just you know, even on a stupid, 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.680 little silly show like ours, you gotta be really careful 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:51.240 with that stuff. 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:58.440 Yeah, so chuck. Because of this incredibly high risk profession work, 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.960 some people to be paid out the yin yang true 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:03.400 or false. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:08.560 Well, they make a good rate, but like we said earlier, 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.800 there's not a ton of work for the amount of 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.560 stunt people trying to get work. Oh okay, And that 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.600 was when I used to work out in la as 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.320 a Pa. I would always try and talk to the 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.080 stunt people when I worked on jobs where they had 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:25.520 stunt people, because they're just really interesting. Yeah, and to 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.760 say the least, and they would usually bemoan the fact 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.640 that there's not a ton of work, and you know, 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.480 they're all kind of scrapping for the same piece of cheese. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.880 But that's like everyone in the film business, sure, from 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.680 crew to the lead actor. You're all after that same 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:38.360 piece of cheese. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.040 Yep. We've worked with some stunt people too. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.720 Yeah, you'd be surprised when you need to call in 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.560 a stunt person. I worked on this one commercial where 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.120 the was just like bad traffic on the highway that 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.440 the shot was and cars had to just sort of 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.360 pull over to the side while another car came through. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.640 All the cars that pulled over to the side of 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.000 the road had to have stunt drivers. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:00.200 Yeah. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.680 I was like, I could do that, but then I'd 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.800 be taking bread off the table at a stunt person. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.840 Right, and then the whole production was shut down. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:08.960 That's true. 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:15.040 Okay, So the most stunt people, you say, because there's 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.760 just so little work for so many people. It's not 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.000 a high paying job. A lot of people do it 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:21.240 for the love of it, right, Yeah. 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.840 I mean you can make money if you're experienced and 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.240 get tons of work, obviously, but right I'd say those 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:28.720 are the few and far between. 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.920 But you'd have to love it because the hours are 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:35.080 usually very very long. Yeah, to do a stunt is 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.160 not You don't just walk up and get in the 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:38.680 car and drive it and all of a sudden it 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.200 flips and there's an explosion and you're hoping for the best. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.800 Like when you see a stunt, these things are rehearsed 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.200 over and over again. Say for a car chase, they'll 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.240 go through the entire car chase, but they'll do it 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:55.240 at a low speed so that it's choreographed, rehearsed, and 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.560 everybody knows what's going to happen when. Yeah, that takes 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.240 a very long time. If you need to flip a car, 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.800 you need to do measurements. The pyrotechnics guys are probably involved. Yeah, 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:08.760 there's a lot of standing around, there's a lot of practicing, 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.560 there's a lot of measuring, there's a lot of talking. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.919 And then if, for say you're doing something like in water, 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.120 you're probably standing in water the whole time, So you're 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.320 doing that for fourteen hours. Yeah, it sounds like some 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.320 you would have to love your work to do this. 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.800 Yeah, it's definitely not a glory job, especially factoring in 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:28.280 the anonymity factor. 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.199 Right when you do all this and you do it 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.280 absolutely perfectly, no one notices. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:34.640 That's the goal. 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:35.240 Yeah. 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.080 In fact, one of my biggest pet peeves is when 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.960 you do notice and you see that one shot of 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.080 the dude with a wig on, it's supposed to be 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.040 Clint Eastwood. Right, Yeah, just disappointing. 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.360 So you were saying the second unit director handles this. 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.000 The second unit director is in charge of shooting stunts, 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.720 but the person who's in charge in like of the 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.760 stunts themselves, is the stunt coordinator. Yeah, and that person 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:04.720 high hires the stunt people, plans the stunts, oversees the stunts, execution, 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.080 does everything, but actually sets up the camera and all that, 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.480 or handles the camera shooting it. Right. 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.480 Yeah, it's basically it's like a film crew is broken 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:15.760 up into many departments, and that's just sort of its 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.200 own little department headed by the coordinator. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:18.639 Gotcha. 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:20.600 Like they'll have a budget to work with and all 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:22.560 that kind of stuff, just like any other department. 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.639 So let's talk about how they do some stunts. 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.600 Okay, and actually the second unit director a lot of 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.800 times is a former stunt person or stunt coordinator. Right, 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.240 it makes sense, comes in handy. Sure, let's talk about 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:37.480 stunts without fire. 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:38.760 How about punches? 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.159 How about them? Stage fighting man something we have not 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:43.800 learned yet. 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.680 That's pretty much a must if you want to become 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.160 a stunt man. That's less than one is go take 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.000 stage fighting courses. 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.560 Yep, learn how to sell a punch as the giver 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.320 and as the receiver mm hmm, without looking corny and 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:57.840 hoky and fake like pro wrestling. 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.360