1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Back to the Stuff you Should Know Summer 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Movie playlist, and this one is from January twenty thirteen. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: It's our House Stuntmen and Women Work episode. I think 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: your socks are gonna be knocked off by how hard 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: these people work for our movie viewing Enjoyment. You enjoy too. 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know Fromhoustuffworks dot com. 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and this is Stuff you Should Know. 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: Old Jerry had an itchy trigger finger today. Age you 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: here in there? 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's ready to go home. 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like, come on, three, do you want to go? 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: You guys aren't my entire life. 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 3: I know we like to think we are, but that is, 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: we're like zero point one percent of Jerry's life. Yeah, 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: she's giggling in there. She's quite the adventurer. How you doing, man, 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: I'm great, man. I'm ready to jump from a tall 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: building or roll a brand new car. 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: Man. Sorry, that's what I was gonna ask you. So, 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: I guess you did the intro for us. 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: Go ahead, let's pretend like that didn't happen. No, it's 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: fine Okay, you were just. 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Doing what the theme from The Fall Guy starring Lee 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: Majors nineteen eighties, awesome TV show with probably the best 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: truck ever featured in a TV show. 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: That gmc man. That thing is sweet. Yeah, you know, 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 3: dudes recreate that truck if you google it. There's a 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: lot of guys that have like made that truck for themselves. 29 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: For good reason too. It's a cool truck. 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's interesting that The Fall Guy points out 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: a couple of the show itself points out a very 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: important things as far as stuntman go. One is that 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: he had to moonlight as a bounty hunter, and that's 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 3: kind of one of the things we'll learn is that 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: there's not a lot of work out there and to 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: go around, you know, like, it's tough to make it 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: as a stunt man. 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get punched. 39 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: And b he's if you look at the lyrics to 40 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: that theme song man, he is really salty about not 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: getting the glo, glory and the. 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: Girls, mainly the girls and the glory. He uh well, 43 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: when he winds up in the hey, it's only hey, 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: hey hey. 45 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: Uh So the song complains about not getting glory or women, 46 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: and that is One of the hallmarks, though, of the 47 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: stunt person is to remain anonymous. 48 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: And to be bitter about it. 49 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: I guess so very few stunt people you've ever heard of? 50 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they're the Academy of Arts and Sciences. They 51 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: give out the Academy Awards. 52 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. 53 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have a category for stunt people. Nope, 54 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: never have. And the reason some people give is because 55 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: they like to maintain the anonymity and the illusion. Sure 56 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: that's provided by stunt people filling in his doubles for stars. 57 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can win a What Will See Award. 58 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: You can win an Emmy for Best Stunt Coordinator. 59 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: True, or the Stunt Award. They had their own Stunt Awards. 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Taurus World Stunt Awards. 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can win a Tory. 62 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: They took a hiatus. I saw that there was twenty 63 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: ten and then they're having stuff for twenty twelve. Couldn't 64 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: find anything about twenty eleven. Really, Yeah, so if you 65 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: know what happened to the Tourist World Stunt Awards for 66 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, we are curious. 67 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: Interesting, let us know, So thanks for listening. 68 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: So anyway, well, let's talk about the history of stunt people. 69 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: They pretty much have only been around as long as 70 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: you've had motion pictures. Right, Yeah, there wasn't much of 71 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: a need for him before then. No, I mean maybe 72 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: for like a show or something like that, like a 73 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: wild Bill Hickcock show. Oh, I guess you call them 74 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: stunt men, but really you kind of want to differentiate 75 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: because you can also say, all right, so people who 76 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: ride horses on standing up on a horse's back, that's 77 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: a stunt person. Yeah, right, A guy who likes in 78 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: the X Games, those extreme sports kids, sure that all 79 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: the kids are into these days, that's a stunt. These 80 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: are by, you know, technically stunt people. What we're talking 81 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: about are movie stunt people, sure. And the whole point 82 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: to their craft isn't to, like, you know, do a 83 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: five to eighty on a bike unless somebody asks them to. 84 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: What they want to do is create what you would 85 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: just take for granted, like, oh, that guy just got clocked, right, No, 86 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: he didn't actually get clocked. That was a stunt man 87 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: who knows what he's doing, and that was a carefully 88 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: choreographed scene that just flew right past you. But it's 89 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: still your brain still just absorbed it as that man 90 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: just got punched even though they didn't really happen. 91 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: That's right, And we will probably slip into the word 92 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: stuntman here and there instead of stunt people. Of course, 93 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: there were tons and tons of stunt women, but we'll 94 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: say stunt persons are stunt man and like luckily there 95 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: are women now. In the back in the day, they 96 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: would dress men as women to do stunts many times. 97 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of cross dressing back in the day, there. 98 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: Was until they decided, hey, women are people too, can 99 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: act and do stunts right, just like guys can. 100 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: We could put them in danger just as much as well. Exactly, so, 101 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: so there wasn't much call for stunt people for movies 102 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: before movies just by definition. Sure, don't be ridiculous, but 103 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: right out of the gate when we started making movies, 104 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: we started needing people to do stunts. And the earliest 105 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: people who were doing stunts were actually comedians, slapstick comedians 106 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: like Buster Keaton had a very famous early. 107 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: Stunt steamboat Bill Junior. 108 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: Is that what it was in? 109 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, the very famous you've probably seen it in like 110 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: you know, Hollywood legends of screen clips and things like that. 111 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 3: On AMC. Yeah, it is the famous shot where the 112 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: front facade of a house falls down and on well 113 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: would have been on Buster Keaton, but he is saved 114 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: because the attic window or attic door was open, so 115 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: it just falls all around him. And there was some 116 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: careful measuring in place, because if he would have been 117 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: off by a few inches, he would have been dead. 118 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was a real thing, Like the earliest 119 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: dunts were nothing, but the real thing. Like apparently if 120 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: you had I don't know, somebody hanging from like the 121 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: construction the skeleton of a steel skyscraper, yeah, you needed 122 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: that shot. That's what the guy did. 123 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they ed the grabster wrote this one, of course, 124 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: and Ed points out that back in the day before 125 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: they were like, you know, before they called them stuntmen, 126 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 3: they were just like, let me go find someone crazy 127 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: enough to go do this exactly, and that guy, that 128 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: guy craft Service, looks crazy enough to do it, and 129 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: let's go see if he wants an extra twenty bucks. 130 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he does. Yeah, because Beck, you know, in 131 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: nineteen oh two, twenty bucks was a lot. 132 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: Sure. 133 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: So as the film industry grew and grew early in 134 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: the twentieth century, we went from just nothing but slapstick 135 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: comedies to things like westerns and action flicks, and all 136 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden, those people who really can ride on 137 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: the back of a horse standing out became stunt people 138 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: as well. And as stunts became more and more complex, 139 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: the idea of having somebody whose job and specialty was 140 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: to just do the stunt and make it look like 141 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: the actor the star sure was doing it started to 142 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: really develop. 143 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then flash forward even more the sixties and 144 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: seventies is when things really came to their own as 145 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: far as stunt technology developing. Things like squibs, which we 146 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: will talk about for gunshots and air rams. Is that 147 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: what they're called. 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a like a hydratic lift. Yeah, it's pneumatic, 149 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: just shoots you up into the air like with a 150 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: human cannonball. 151 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: Right. 152 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: But like so if somebody, if a grenade blows up 153 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: by somebody and you see the dude fly through the air, 154 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: he was on a ram, that's right. 155 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: And then other things like airbags and and you know, 156 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: more technology with cars with the cages, like it just 157 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: got more and more complex, right, And now of course 158 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: we have CGI which replaces a lot of stunts in 159 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: many cases. 160 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: Not necessarily to a better effect. Like all I have 161 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: to say is Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Yeah, where 162 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: it was like they suddenly cut to drawings of Harrison 163 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: Ford swinging on a lasso. 164 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: He's famous for doing his own stunts, though. 165 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: He didn't do him And Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. 166 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: Well, this's because he's eighty nine years old. Then he 167 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: would die. 168 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: He was awesome in Bruno. 169 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: I didn't see that. Was he Harrison Borders in that? 170 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah for about two seconds. 171 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 3: Did they do like gay jokes to him or something? 172 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: They didn't even get that far? 173 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, did he just shut it down? 174 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? All it's hilarious. But anyway, so stunts like the 175 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: I guess throughout this progression of the field of stunt people, 176 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: safety has gotten better and better, is what I think 177 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: we were just trying to say. To the point now 178 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: where they're not even used it's gi Yeah, but there's 179 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: there's always going to be room for stunt people. 180 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 181 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: Uh. And the fact that it's gotten safer is much better. 182 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: But there's still there's an element of risk to it 183 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: no matter what it's grabs or points out. If a 184 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: stunt didn't present some sort of risk, there'd be no 185 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: need for stunt people at all, as tractors would do it. Yeah, 186 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: but the actors can't always do it. 187 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 3: That's right. Uh. And when you want to call in 188 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: a stunt person is when they either have a specific 189 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: skill that they're really good at, like fake martial arts 190 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: or I mean real martial arts, but fake hitting and kicking, or. 191 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: Fake marshals like chew kwong like stuff you just made up. 192 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: It's a lot of like just front kits in the air. 193 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: That's what you practice. 194 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: That's a quong. 195 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: Sword fighting, stage combat, like we've talked about stuff like that. 196 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: They are trained to fall, they are trained to you know, 197 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: safely fall. I guess I should point out. And it 198 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: just basically it's a safety factor on one and it's 199 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: a financial factor on the other, because you can't have 200 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: your main actor actress going down with a broken leg, 201 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: yeah for four weeks, So you put your stunt person 202 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: in there and keep your actor all license safe in 203 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: their trailer. 204 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 205 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: Or you want to be shooting two things at once, 206 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: so you have your second unit out there shooting the 207 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: fast cars whizzing by in the car chase. Then you 208 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: have your first unit shooting the actor inside the car 209 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: driving a lot slower and acting like it's really. 210 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: Fast but shouting and like moving the steering wheel back 211 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: and forth a lot. Yeah, maybe there's somebody rocking the car. 212 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: What's that called. 213 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: Poor men's process? 214 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 215 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 3: Is yeah, so when you, I guess we should say this, 216 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: when you're in a car, you either have a camera 217 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: rig on your car where it's the real car with 218 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: cameras attached to it. We've done that, or the cars 219 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: on a process trailer, which means a lot of these 220 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: shots you see with someone driving and you're like, they're 221 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: not even paying attention to the road. Yeah, it's because 222 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 3: the car sitting on a trailer being pulled by a. 223 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: Truck, right, Or it's got a little rock to it. 224 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: A little rock to it, or you do the poor 225 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: man's process was when the car is not going anywhere and. 226 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: You have PA's pushing on the outside. 227 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: Pushing on the outside, little tricks with lighting to make 228 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: it look like headlights going by. 229 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: We've done that. 230 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: It's really neat in the end to look at a 231 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: scene that's poor man's process and think, wow, they're really 232 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: not even moving and it looks so good. 233 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, see if you can pick it out and 234 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: the stuff you should know TV series, they can probably 235 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: pick it up. So yeah, it's financial. It makes sense. Also, 236 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: one of the other reasons people use stunt people is 237 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: they come with a set of skills that the average 238 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: actor doesn't have a particular set of skills exactly. That 239 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: makes them very dangerous to you. And so you can 240 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: either hire a stuntman who looks like your star to 241 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: carry out like a combat scene or sort of look 242 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: like your star, or you can teach your star, you know, 243 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: spend all this extra money and time to training the 244 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: star to the skill in a crash course. So it 245 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: just most of the time it makes sense to just 246 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: hire a stunt person. Yeah. 247 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: And you know, chances are these days you're going to 248 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: get a mix in a big action movie, you're gonna 249 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: get a mix of all three. You're gonna get some CGI, 250 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: you're gonna get some stunt people, and these days you're 251 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: gonna get real actors doing some of the real fake fighting. 252 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: Doesn't Tom Cruise do a lot of his own stunts? 253 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a list of actors who prefer to 254 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: do us. I don't mean to jump the gun No, 255 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: the Cruse is famous for that. 256 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: I was reading this and I was like, I wonder 257 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: if I would do my own stunts. I would do some. 258 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: I would say, sure, I want to learn how to 259 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: sword fight. Teach me that's something I want to know, 260 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: and I'm certainly not going to shell out for it myself, ever, 261 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: so let's go ahead and learn. 262 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: Now, that's a good point. I would do my own stunts. 263 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: It depends the heights. 264 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: No way I would do that. I would jump off 265 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: so California state law. And of course they shoot movies 266 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: all over the place now and the union rules in 267 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: Hollywood have really made it pretty safe these days. But 268 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 3: you're still going to find injuries in your occasional death 269 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: on set, which is really awful. 270 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, there always have been, pretty much from the beginning, 271 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: deaths and injuries. 272 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: Howard Hughes. 273 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the movie Hell's Angels, which we must have talked 274 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: about in the Hell's Angels podcast. I'm sure we did, 275 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: because I think we talked about the origin. 276 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 3: Of the name, which was from the air combat. 277 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: It was, you know, that's what they think the fighting. 278 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: I think that was one of the theories. But there 279 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: were three, maybe four fatalities yeah, because they were doing 280 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: like real dog fights with airplanes and there were a 281 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: lot of crashes. Yeah, so that was a movie where 282 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: people died. 283 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: Yes, very famously the Twilight Zone, the movie Jennifer Jason 284 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: Lee's father, Vic Morrow, and two little Vietnamese kids died 285 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 3: when a helicopter crashed into the water where they were 286 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: crossing a river. That's on YouTube, by the way. 287 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: I know, it's pretty awful. 288 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 3: It is, and I saw it recently because I was 289 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: just curious. I'd always wondered how it went down in 290 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: my head because I've heard the story since the movie 291 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 3: came out, since I was a kid, and I was wondering, like, 292 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: exactly what was the logistics and how did that go down. 293 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: It's pretty bad to watch, it is, because it just 294 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: goes totally out of control. 295 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 3: It does, so I would not recommend that, but you 296 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: do have to enter your age, by the way to 297 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: watch that video I saw. Yeah, And on set, the 298 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: ad is ultimately responsible the assistant director for everyone's safety, 299 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: and in fact, on our own little TV show, when 300 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: we had fake guns on set just as props. Yeah, 301 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: like we didn't even use them in the scene, but 302 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: just to have a fake gun on set, the ad 303 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: has to announce to the whole crew and show them 304 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: the gun. Say it's fake, it's not real. Look at 305 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: the barrel. There's no bullets, there's no nothing. It will 306 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: not be fired. We will not be shooting blanks or 307 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: dummy cartridges. And it's just you know, even on a stupid, 308 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: little silly show like ours, you gotta be really careful 309 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: with that stuff. 310 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so chuck. Because of this incredibly high risk profession work, 311 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: some people to be paid out the yin yang true 312 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: or false. 313 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: Well, they make a good rate, but like we said earlier, 314 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: there's not a ton of work for the amount of 315 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: stunt people trying to get work. Oh okay, And that 316 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: was when I used to work out in la as 317 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: a Pa. I would always try and talk to the 318 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: stunt people when I worked on jobs where they had 319 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: stunt people, because they're just really interesting. Yeah, and to 320 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: say the least, and they would usually bemoan the fact 321 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: that there's not a ton of work, and you know, 322 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: they're all kind of scrapping for the same piece of cheese. 323 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: But that's like everyone in the film business, sure, from 324 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: crew to the lead actor. You're all after that same 325 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: piece of cheese. 326 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: Yep. We've worked with some stunt people too. 327 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd be surprised when you need to call in 328 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: a stunt person. I worked on this one commercial where 329 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: the was just like bad traffic on the highway that 330 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: the shot was and cars had to just sort of 331 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: pull over to the side while another car came through. 332 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: All the cars that pulled over to the side of 333 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: the road had to have stunt drivers. 334 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 335 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: I was like, I could do that, but then I'd 336 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: be taking bread off the table at a stunt person. 337 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: Right, and then the whole production was shut down. 338 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: That's true. 339 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So the most stunt people, you say, because there's 340 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: just so little work for so many people. It's not 341 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: a high paying job. A lot of people do it 342 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: for the love of it, right, Yeah. 343 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: I mean you can make money if you're experienced and 344 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: get tons of work, obviously, but right I'd say those 345 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: are the few and far between. 346 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: But you'd have to love it because the hours are 347 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: usually very very long. Yeah, to do a stunt is 348 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: not You don't just walk up and get in the 349 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: car and drive it and all of a sudden it 350 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: flips and there's an explosion and you're hoping for the best. 351 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: Like when you see a stunt, these things are rehearsed 352 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: over and over again. Say for a car chase, they'll 353 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: go through the entire car chase, but they'll do it 354 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: at a low speed so that it's choreographed, rehearsed, and 355 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: everybody knows what's going to happen when. Yeah, that takes 356 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: a very long time. If you need to flip a car, 357 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: you need to do measurements. The pyrotechnics guys are probably involved. Yeah, 358 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of standing around, there's a lot of practicing, 359 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of measuring, there's a lot of talking. 360 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: And then if, for say you're doing something like in water, 361 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: you're probably standing in water the whole time, So you're 362 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: doing that for fourteen hours. Yeah, it sounds like some 363 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: you would have to love your work to do this. 364 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely not a glory job, especially factoring in 365 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: the anonymity factor. 366 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: Right when you do all this and you do it 367 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: absolutely perfectly, no one notices. 368 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 3: That's the goal. 369 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 370 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: In fact, one of my biggest pet peeves is when 371 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 3: you do notice and you see that one shot of 372 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: the dude with a wig on, it's supposed to be 373 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: Clint Eastwood. Right, Yeah, just disappointing. 374 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: So you were saying the second unit director handles this. 375 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: The second unit director is in charge of shooting stunts, 376 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: but the person who's in charge in like of the 377 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: stunts themselves, is the stunt coordinator. Yeah, and that person 378 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: high hires the stunt people, plans the stunts, oversees the stunts, execution, 379 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: does everything, but actually sets up the camera and all that, 380 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: or handles the camera shooting it. Right. 381 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's basically it's like a film crew is broken 382 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: up into many departments, and that's just sort of its 383 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: own little department headed by the coordinator. 384 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: Gotcha. 385 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: Like they'll have a budget to work with and all 386 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, just like any other department. 387 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: So let's talk about how they do some stunts. 388 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: Okay, and actually the second unit director a lot of 389 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: times is a former stunt person or stunt coordinator. Right, 390 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: it makes sense, comes in handy. Sure, let's talk about 391 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: stunts without fire. 392 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: How about punches? 393 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 3: How about them? Stage fighting man something we have not 394 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: learned yet. 395 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: That's pretty much a must if you want to become 396 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: a stunt man. That's less than one is go take 397 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: stage fighting courses. 398 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: Yep, learn how to sell a punch as the giver 399 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: and as the receiver mm hmm, without looking corny and 400 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: hoky and fake like pro wrestling. 401 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: Right, But it's very much similar to pro wrestling, especially 402 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: if you've ever seen somebody throw a punch in pro 403 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: wrestling and you can hear the skin slap, Yeah, that's 404 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: because that person was actually just punched. 405 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 406 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: The key is they weren't punched very hard, certainly not 407 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: as hard as there the jerk of their head would 408 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: would say. 409 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got camera angles and you've got sound effects, 410 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: and through the art of movie magic, it looks like 411 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: a good knockdown, drag out brawl. 412 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: Right, And if you've got it like a really good 413 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: stunt coordinator, they'll be like a punch that's sold and 414 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: the person who's being punched is on a ramp so 415 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: they fly through the air. 416 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome, all right. Gunshots, we talked about squibs. 417 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: A squib is basically you're gonna have a chest metal 418 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 3: chest plate with a squib on the front of it, 419 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: right to protect your body. And it's it's basically a 420 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: little blood packet that's rigged electronically to explode when it's 421 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: supposed to. 422 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: And so the plate in between this gribbing and chest 423 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: protects you. Sure, and maybe you are in charge of you, 424 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: the stuntman are in charge that you have a little button. 425 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe to explode. 426 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: The charge or there's somebody else doing it remotely. And 427 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: it's pretty awesome. Releases theater blood opens a hole in 428 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: the shirt. Yeah, pretty awesome. 429 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: It is very awesome. 430 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: This I didn't realize though, how they make bullet holes 431 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: in like a wall, like a stuck a wall. Yeah, 432 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: I thought this was pretty ingenious. They drill the hole 433 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: ahead of time and then they cover it up with 434 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: like putty or paper or something and paint with a 435 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: squib in there. Yeah, and they blow that squib out 436 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: and it makes a bullet hole. 437 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. 438 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: It's ingenious. It's simple, it seems like, but it's very ingenious. 439 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 3: Well, especially when you watch a movie. Ideally you're getting 440 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: lost in the movie not paying attention, but if you 441 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: watch like a John woufilm or something, and you see 442 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: just like a wall get riddled with bullets, just think 443 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: about all the time. Yeah, it took to set up 444 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: all those squibs. 445 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: And like what if the act trips. In the middle 446 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: of it, you're just like, ah, we have to do 447 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: it again. 448 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is no good. And in fact, big stunts 449 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: they go with many mini cameras on stunts that you 450 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: don't or can't recreate because of either danger or money. Yeah, 451 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: and like some of these shots have like you know, 452 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 3: a dozen more camera shooting. 453 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: Right time, which makes a lot of sense, of course, 454 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: and Grabster points out that another reason why you don't 455 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: want to do a big take like that more than 456 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: once is because every time you do, the danger for 457 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: the stunt person multiplies. Yeah, And I was like, how, 458 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: and then I thought, oh, well doing it more right, 459 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: your your chances of injury are increased the more you 460 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: carry out the more times you carry out a dangerous act. 461 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's how it multiplies. 462 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: Getting back to squibs, these days, a lot of directors 463 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 3: are opting for CGI blood and bullet wounds. But supposedly 464 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: Quentin Tarantino and this is out. By the time this comes. 465 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: Out, Jango and chain Man, I can't wait to see it. 466 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: Supposedly he had one percent real squibs and the blood 467 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: like they're supposed to be the bloodiest, nastiest quibs that 468 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 3: hollywould have seen in years. 469 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: Is that right? 470 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's supposed to be pretty awesome. 471 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah, have you seen a machete? Yeah that was 472 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: pretty bloody. Yeah that was bad though I didn't like 473 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: I agree it was, but it was still pretty bloody. 474 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: They also blanks. If you were firing a gun on set, 475 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: it is probably a blank, you would hope. So it's 476 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: not the same as a dummy cartridge. No, a blank 477 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: actually fires gunpowder, has gunpowder and fires what's called a wad. 478 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 3: It's like paper or wood or plastic. But it does 479 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 3: not obviously have shot or a bullet. 480 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: No, but there's sometimes when the bullet explodes, bits of 481 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: metal can end up being shot out as well. 482 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 483 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: That's how Brandon Lee died when they were filming The Crow. 484 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. His was actually an accident. There was a bullet 485 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: lodged in the barrel that they didn't know about what 486 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: I thought. 487 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: Okay, well then I'm thinking of somebody else who like 488 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: was messing around with a gun. 489 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: That was oh man, I can't remember his name, put 490 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: it to his Yeah. 491 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: Pulled the trigger and like the water like the gases 492 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: or something killed them. 493 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was h I can't remember his name, but 494 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: it was on a TV show set and he like 495 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: goofing around, put it to his head as a joke. 496 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: So you should never mess around with blanks. No, it's 497 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: very dangerous. Still No, but there was a bullet in 498 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: the Yeah, there was a bullet. They got the guns 499 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 3: mixed up and there was a real bullet slug lodged 500 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 3: in the barrel that they didn't know about. So it 501 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 3: fired a blank, but it ejected that other thing and 502 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: Brandon Lee died. 503 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't know that. 504 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it was one of the biggest oops is 505 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 3: probably in Hollywood history. 506 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I guess you could call it that. 507 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: And I think he they thought he was still acting 508 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: and continued to roll cameras for a bit afterwards. 509 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: Oh geez. 510 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: Even Yeah, very sad, tragic. Are we to falling? 511 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, which you'll do I won't do. 512 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll jump off of stuff. I've always done that. 513 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: Well, they use these huge, huge air bags right. 514 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: Well, back in the day they did, and if you 515 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: and if you're doing a fall today, they still will sometimes, 516 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: but generally these days they have like a bungee type contraption. 517 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: I would still demand an air bag. Yeah, they apparently 518 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: also for shorter falls, they'll take some cardboard boxes and 519 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: they'll cut the sharp corners off. Yeah, and then you 520 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: jump onto that. Did you do that when you were 521 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: a kid? No? 522 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 3: No, no, I always would jump into water. 523 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: I would jump like onto the ground off like the 524 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: credenza or whatever. And now I'm like, I wouldn't even 525 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: do that. It's dangerous. 526 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: Falls used to be the thing. Like I'm sure you 527 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 3: remember as a kid, falls were a really big deal 528 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 3: for stuntmen and Dar Robinson. Remember that guy. No, he 529 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 3: did the Sharkis Machine fall okay in Atlanta and the 530 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: Burt Reynolds movie. Nope, it's very famous fall out of 531 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: the Peachtree Plaza Hotel. 532 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: I was up in Toledo at a time. 533 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: It was still it was released in Toledo in Toledo, 534 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,239 Speaker 3: Sharky's Machine one. 535 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh off the off the Witch Hotel. 536 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 3: He went through a window of the Peachtree Plaza and 537 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: uh into onto an airbag. And it's just it was 538 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: one of the famous early and or not early falls, 539 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 3: but one of the famous falls. 540 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: What Florida did he jump out of? 541 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: Oh man, I can't remember. 542 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: Was it pretty high? 543 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean it was over over like one hundred 544 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: and fifty feet I know. 545 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah that's nuts. 546 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. 547 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: But see, so imagine planning that stunt. How many times 548 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: they measured, yeah, everything to figure out where the air 549 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: bags needed to go, and then they probably supplemented it 550 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: with additional airbags. And if they loved the guy at all, 551 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: they did all this. 552 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, stuntman, When you go to talk to one, if 553 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: you're on set, you'll be disappointed by the fact that 554 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: they aren't these crazy dudes like you want them to be. 555 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: They're actually really sensible because they want to work and 556 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: earn money, so they want to be really, really sure 557 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 3: that no one gets hurt. It's a little more boring 558 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 3: than you would think talking to them. Sure, but there 559 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: are little nuts. 560 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you'd have to be at what else, chuck fire? 561 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: How about fire? 562 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: I just saw Anchorman the other night, Remember when they 563 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 3: had the street brawl and got on fire just walks by. 564 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a pretty serious stunt, like when you are 565 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: when you set yourself on fire. Yeah, and there's a 566 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: lot of safety precautions, but even still, it's you're on fire, 567 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: whether you like it or not. 568 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're wearing all kinds of fire protective clothing and 569 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: fire retardant, and then you're smeared with the flammable gel. 570 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: Yep, you have a hood on that protects you as well, 571 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: and there's an oxygen tank in there, so you're basically 572 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: just completely wrapped in this outfit. Yeah, but yeah, the 573 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: flammable gels on. And they liked you and then film 574 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: you and you're going, oh, it's always. 575 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 3: The wavy and this kind of looks the same. 576 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: And then the people run over and put you out 577 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: with fire extinguisher. 578 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 3: That's right. 579 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: But they time it very closely as well. Oh, I'm sure, 580 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: because I think it's kind of like, well, if we 581 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: go twelve seconds, he actually will catch on fire, so 582 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: we can shoot. 583 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 3: For eleven eleven point five. Explosions are a big deal, 584 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: obviously these days. There are so many explosions in movies. 585 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: Sometimes they cheat a little bit what's called a technique 586 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: called force perspective to make it look like the actor 587 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 3: is closer to the explosion, and if there's an explosion, 588 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 3: you're probably also going to be propelled with the air 589 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 3: ram that we were talking about. It's very it's almost 590 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: I would call it a Hollywood trope. At this point 591 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 3: the explosion and the dudes flying like twenty feet in 592 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 3: the ear. 593 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was big in a commando. 594 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I went there a lot of air rams using. 595 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 3: Commanda, many more than I can count. 596 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: That such a good movie. Car chases and crashes, yeah, 597 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: they use rams as well. They may be attached to 598 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: the car. So if a car needs to flip, you 599 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 1: see people like going up on a ramp or whatever. Yeah, 600 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: and I they'd probably use that if you're just trying 601 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: to stay on two wheels. But if you're trying to flip, 602 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: there's usually a ram that pushes the car, pushes it 603 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: off to the ground and it flips, or if you 604 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: haven't coming out of the rear, it'll make it jump 605 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: really high. 606 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 3: Oh true. Like in Hooper. 607 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't know all these movies you're talking about. 608 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: Oh dude. Hooper was the stuff man movie with Burt Reynolds. 609 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: I didn't see it. 610 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Hal neaedam very famous stuntman turned director directed. 611 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: Founder of The Cannonball Run well. 612 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and director of the movie The Cannonball Run and 613 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 3: Smoking the Bandit and Hooper. Hooper was about an aging 614 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: stuntman Burt Reynolds who was challenged by the up and 615 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 3: comer Jan Michael Vincent. And of course there's the love 616 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 3: relationship with Sally Field choosing that too. And it was good. 617 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 3: It was like the best. It's sort of the best 618 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: stunt movie ever because it was about stunts, huh. And 619 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: he had a rocket car and that one that was 620 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: a big rocket car jump. It was the big climax. 621 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: I did not see Hooper. 622 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 3: D you need to see Hooper? 623 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: What was I watching back then? 624 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 3: What were you? You're probably watching TV and stuff. 625 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: I guess, Yeah, it. 626 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: Was a little before your time. Secret of nim And 627 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: like I said earlier, stunt drivers, it's not all like 628 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff you're going to see on 629 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: TV is stunt driving, even though you might not think 630 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: it's necessary. 631 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently does this pull off of the. 632 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: Sometimeway sometimes not. How do you become a stuntman. 633 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: Josh, Well, apparently, as far as Grabanowski says, you basically 634 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: have to start off as an extra on the set. 635 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: That's not necessarily true. 636 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: Okay, if you want to, if you want to go 637 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: from the absolutely from from zero to stuntman in the 638 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: slowest way possible, then you would start out as an 639 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: extra on the set. You have to be a screen 640 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: act You have to be a member of the Screen 641 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: Actors Guild in most cases. Yeah, and when you're hanging 642 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: around the set, you identify who the second unit director 643 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: or stunt coordinator is and you hand them your headshot. 644 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: This ad painted a path to becoming a stunt person 645 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 3: that we've kind of laughed at. It is not the 646 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: only path, but one thing is for sure. To become 647 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: a stunt person, you need to get to know someone 648 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 3: else in that department. And that's really with every film department. 649 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: If you want to be in a wardrobe you should 650 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: get a job as a BA and start hanging out 651 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: with the wardrobe people. If you want to be in makeup, 652 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: start hanging out with the makeup people. And that's just 653 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: how it works in Hollywood. There is no degree. You 654 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: can get a film degree, but come on, let's wasted money. 655 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: Just go to work on a set. You get to 656 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: know the people in the department and then start bugging 657 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: them a little bit when they're not busy. Stunt coordinators 658 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: are a little testy because there's a lot on the line, 659 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: you know, sure, so you know if you're a new 660 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 3: pa on set. Don't run over the stunt coordinator, start 661 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 3: bugging them right away. Pick and choose right your time, 662 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: and then give them your headshot and then give him 663 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 3: your head shot. 664 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, what you're saying is that it's apprentice based. 665 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 3: It is. 666 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: Basically. 667 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: There are schools. One recommended driving school, the Rick Seaman 668 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: Stunt Driving School. There's also the International Stunt School that 669 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: sounds pretty serious, and this is where you can learn 670 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: to do some of the stuff. But it's not like 671 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: you exit with a degree and then show up and 672 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 3: say now I'd like to do stunt work. 673 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: Right, all the rest of you are fired. I have 674 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: a degree from the International Stunt School. 675 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: And Grabster points out that you should have a large 676 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: area of specialty rather than one thing. 677 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: I thought it's a very good point. 678 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that this is not necessarily true. I've talked 679 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: to some stunt dudes that say, eventually you would like 680 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: to have a wide range of skills, but a good 681 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 3: way to get in is to have one really specific 682 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: skill that you're great at. And you might get that 683 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: call like this guy's good with wirework or water work, 684 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: and or he's a hell of a driver or a 685 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: really good motorcycle guy, yeah, or a great skier if 686 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: you're doing like, what was that for your eyes only? 687 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 688 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: Is that the one that over had ski chase? 689 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: Never say never again? 690 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: I know it's definitely Roger Moore. 691 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I think it's for your eyes only, all right. 692 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: But it helps to have these skills, Like a lot 693 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: of stunt people are former motorcycle motocross racers or car 694 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 3: enthusiasts or you know, how to stupid stand the forest 695 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: back riding. 696 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so a lot of. 697 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: Them had these skills just anyway, and they're like, hey, 698 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: I can I've been driving dirt track for twenty years 699 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 3: as well make some money. 700 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, film me. 701 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: There's books out there, are there? So you want to 702 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: be a stunt Man? By Mark Aspitt? 703 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a great name for a book like. 704 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: That, The Full Burn by Kevin Conley, Fight Choreography The 705 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: Art of Nonverbal Dialogue by John Kring, and then Hall 706 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: Needham's biography Stuntman with a exclamation. 707 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: Had to be had to be you got You said 708 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: you have a list of actors that do their own stunts. 709 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think most people know this. People like Jason Statham, 710 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: famous for doing his own stunts, Huh. 711 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: I see Zoe Bells on there. I thought she was 712 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: a stunt person. 713 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: Well she is, and she was in Death Proof though 714 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: as an actor, right, And they were like, I guess 715 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: they include her now because she did that awesome hanging 716 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: onto the hood scene. 717 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: I was watching that earlier and it is just nut. 718 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. 719 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: It's like she's when she's hanging on it looks like 720 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: by belts or whatever. Yeah, and then she's she's kind 721 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: of sliding still across the hood. 722 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 723 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: All it would take is like half an inch, and 724 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden she's gone too far and 725 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: she's off the side of the car. Yeah, that was it. 726 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: She's one of the best in the business apparently. 727 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: Man, that's scary. 728 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: Burt Reynolds used to do a lot of his stunts. 729 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: In fact, he got injured pretty bad. That led to 730 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: some bad health problems on set. Oh yeah, a city Heat, 731 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 3: the Clint Easwood movie. Burt Lancaster, he used to do 732 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: his on stunts. 733 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: He's a tough guy. Yeah, remember the movie Tough Guys. 734 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 3: Yes, in that Yeah. Yeah, I don't think we mentioned 735 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: Ben hur either. That's one of the famous stunts ever. 736 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: The Chariot race. 737 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to tell him about it? 738 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: Go ahead, what do you got. 739 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: Oh, well, there's a stuntman named Joe Canutt and he 740 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: was doubling for Charlton Heston and during the chariot race, 741 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: this big, long, intense race. Yeah, he falls off the 742 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: chariot and it's about to be run over, but in 743 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: true stuntman fashion, grabs it is being dragged, Yeah, pulls 744 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: himself back up and continues on. 745 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: And I think that made it on screen. 746 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in the movie. But that was a real thing, 747 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't a planned stunt. Like the guy saved 748 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: his own life. 749 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 3: That's awesome, Dad, Harrison Ford. We mentioned as far as 750 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 3: the ladies go, Angelina Jolee and Cameron Diaz are known 751 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 3: for doing stunts. Arnie Schwartz and Niagata and Jackie Chan 752 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: of course very famous for doing his own stunts. 753 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: Sure. 754 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 3: And it makes a difference, man, when you can tell 755 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 3: it's Tom Cruise on the side of that mountain. 756 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: Man that was scary. Is that really him? 757 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Emily worked on that shoot on there, just that 758 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: segment in mo Ab, the rock climbing segment, and that's 759 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: when famously Tom Cruise was like four hours late and 760 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: flies in on a helicopter and like the whole crew 761 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 3: was waiting around all day for him. 762 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: I hadn't heard that. 763 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: And then oh, yeah, I mean famous in my family. Yeah, 764 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: and now I guess famous to the podcast community. 765 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: Yea Cruiz is not punctual. 766 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 3: Well he wasn't that day. 767 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: Wow, stunts. 768 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 3: Have you seen Haywire, the Soderberg movie? Huh huh, it's 769 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: about h assassinate assassins. Basically, it's an action movie, Soderberg's 770 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: take on an action movie. But Gina Karana was a 771 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 3: former mixed martial artist and she she's awesome and does 772 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: her own stunts. What's her name, Gina Carano. 773 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: I don't believe I know her. 774 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 3: She plays the lead. I she I think that was 775 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 3: her first, like legit movie known for mixed martial arts. 776 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, she does her own stunts. 777 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: She's b a hey wy hey, I'll check it out. 778 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 3: I got nothing else. 779 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: I don't either. 780 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 3: Pretty straightforward. 781 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: If you want to learn more about stunts, you can 782 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: type stunts into the house stuff works search bar. And 783 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: I said search bar, which means it's time for listener. 784 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 3: May Josh, I'm gonna call this, uh things we I 785 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 3: guess say a lot. Oh no, yeah, like no, no, no, 786 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: that's not in there. Okay, everyone says like. 787 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: Though, I know, but I've people have pointed out here 788 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: They're like, you guys say like a lot. And I've 789 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: started to notice. And when I say it when I 790 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: hear the podcast, I don't hear it when I'm saying it, 791 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: only later on when I can't do anything about it. 792 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 3: Don't beat yourself up. Everybody says that, like, there are 793 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 3: articles written in the New Yorker about the use of 794 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: the word like in the twenty first century. 795 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're part of that crowd. 796 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 3: I know you're no millennial. 797 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm an aged person. Sorry, what's wrong with 798 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: me today? 799 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 3: Guys? Before I start, I feel like I should get 800 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 3: out my adoration of the podcast. Always listen as I'm 801 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 3: walking my dog, Chloe keeps me entertained for hours. I 802 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 3: love that you guys are still going strong, and I'm 803 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: very thankful. I've comprised a list, however, of words and 804 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 3: phrases used most often in the show. Besides obvious ones 805 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 3: like Chuck or Josh or search bark, let's hear them 806 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 3: in no particular order. About it being a bout a boom. 807 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: Sure he left off the bon Jovi she oh. 808 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 3: She, we'll talk about this later or we'll get to. 809 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: That, and then a lot of times we don't. 810 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I say that a lot. 811 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious when we say that we're going 812 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: to talk about something later and then we just forget too. 813 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, or I say all the time, I think we 814 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 3: should point out and she didn't put that in here, 815 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 3: but I'll go ahead and throw my own on there. 816 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm making air quotes. Yeah, I E E G. Yeah, 817 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: that's one of yours. That's a good band name, and 818 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 3: that's usually me. Sure, because that's not just sweat. You 819 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 3: just talk about sweat a lot because of me. That's 820 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: a stand up guy. I don't remember her saying that 821 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 3: a lot. Do you say that a lot? All right, 822 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take at you with that one, Katherine on 823 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 3: the up and up. I don't know' CoA. Of course 824 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 3: you say that a lot. 825 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: Definitely. 826 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 3: People always ask it what it means. 827 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: We never tell. 828 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: They never tell, And then have you seen the movie? Ironically? 829 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: That's about right. 830 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And those are ten things that we say a lot, 831 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 3: and that is she says she thinks these are great 832 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 3: comforts her and she smiles, and that is Catherine Phillips. 833 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Katherine. That's pretty cool. Somebody's out there 834 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: like writing lists of things we say. 835 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 3: It's nicer to hear people say like, I take comfort that. 836 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 3: And except for the emails when we get like you 837 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 3: guys always. 838 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 1: Say this and you usually like too much. That's John 839 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: Travolta taking against the task. Or if you want to 840 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 1: take us the task, whether John Travolta or anybody else, 841 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 1: or you just want to say, hey, here's the list 842 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: of things I noticed because the podcast or whatever, you 843 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: can join us on Twitter. Actually, first, before we sign off, 844 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: let's remind everybody that we're going to be on the 845 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: TV again the TV. Yeah, Saturday night on Science Channel 846 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: at ten pm would be the premiere of another Stuff 847 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: you Should Know episode. 848 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 3: You can watch us each and every week, Yeah. 849 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 1: TV show Stuff you Don't Should Know TV show ten pm, or. 850 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 3: Get it on iTunes the following day on Sunday. That's right, Chuck, 851 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,439 Speaker 3: Just go to iTunes and type in stuff you Should 852 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 3: Know and. 853 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: Two it comes off all right, So now we'll sign off, right, Yep, 854 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: you can get in touch with us on Twitter at 855 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: s y s K podcast. You can join us on 856 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: Facebook dot com slash w should Know, and you can 857 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: send us a good old fashioned email too. Stuff Podcast 858 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: at Discovery dot com. 859 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 2: For more on this and thousands of other topics, visit 860 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 2: HowStuffWorks dot com