WEBVTT - How Clothes Dryers Work

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff. I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren Foke OBAM

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<v Speaker 1>and Laurena. Here's someone on Facebook. Wanted to know about

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<v Speaker 1>some tech related thing, right, yeah, Thomas on Facebook road

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<v Speaker 1>in and to to us two guys and one gal

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<v Speaker 1>here at tex Stuff. Hey, nol you were represented. Nol

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<v Speaker 1>Is is smiling from behind his barrier, very gentitely, raising

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<v Speaker 1>the roof. I believe, yes, I think so um, but yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so so Thomas wanted to know now that we have

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<v Speaker 1>done an episode about washing machine, how dryers were Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, excellent. Yeah, and guys, remember we asked at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of every episode if you have ideas, send

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<v Speaker 1>them in and we mean it. Yeah, do that. So,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, we're talking about dryers. So what was

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<v Speaker 1>the first clothes dryer, Lauren? The Sun? Yeah, that thing

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<v Speaker 1>is just pulling so much double duty, I mean triple duty,

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<v Speaker 1>like like quintuple duty. What's what's above quickly, Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>infinite duty. Yeah, there's a lot of duty going on

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<v Speaker 1>with the sun, including drying our clothes. So clearly, if

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever had to dry close without having the use

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<v Speaker 1>of a dryer. I've done this. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have done this at some point or other.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe fewer today than back when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>But it depends on where you live. If you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of a city, perhaps yeah, maybe not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have gone to a laundromat or something. But

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<v Speaker 1>most of if you look at history, most people use

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<v Speaker 1>the sun in some form or another by laying wet

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<v Speaker 1>clothes that have just been washed out on on on

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<v Speaker 1>a rock or hanging it on a line or over

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<v Speaker 1>the branch of a tree yep, and just letting the

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<v Speaker 1>sun do its thing evaporate all that water. Usually take

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a couple hours um depending upon where you

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<v Speaker 1>were at, how hot it was, how humid it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Humidity could slow things down, obviously, not only dried up

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<v Speaker 1>the clothing, it would also cause colors to fade over time,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes pretty quickly, depending upon the dye being used. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you plan for that, that was what you wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the Romans used to use various types of

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<v Speaker 1>minerals and rub them in on the cloth. They would

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<v Speaker 1>make during the drying process. An arctic to um specifically

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<v Speaker 1>fade or or even bleach it. Yeah, so that way

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<v Speaker 1>you get that nice white toga look, um, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to all the parties because in Roman

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<v Speaker 1>times they were all toga parties. Okay, I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see if I can get an eye roll, but instead

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<v Speaker 1>of Lauren just gave me the staring right into my

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<v Speaker 1>soul look, which is terrifying. So we're gonna move on. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So so wash your technology evolved, Um it really intricately,

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<v Speaker 1>as as you may have heard in our previous episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But since the sun is relatively effective and drying clothes

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<v Speaker 1>this way is not really difficult, backbreaking, time consuming work,

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<v Speaker 1>dryer technology didn't really develop along the same lines. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it just it wasn't as big a deal because yet,

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<v Speaker 1>to wash something you had to put in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of effort, right, you had to, especially before the washing machine,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to scrub things manually or stomp on them

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<v Speaker 1>or beat them against rocks or throw them away and

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<v Speaker 1>get new stuff. I mean, it just was not easy

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and so there was a need to develop

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<v Speaker 1>automation there. It just it felt like there's this is

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<v Speaker 1>so much work. It's it's the woman's dread as we

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<v Speaker 1>said in the last podcast, according to one quote, so

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<v Speaker 1>that made sense. But for drying, like you said, it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was free to dry it by the sun,

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<v Speaker 1>so you didn't have to you know, put in any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of expense there except maybe for a clothesline and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some maybe some closed pins, but that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh yeah, you just had to lay it out

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<v Speaker 1>and collect it. That's all the labor that was involved.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't as imprintant to develop a dryer, but

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't make things convenient, right, You couldn't have dry

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<v Speaker 1>clothes very quickly using that rate. So if it happened

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, Yeah, So there certainly were people

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<v Speaker 1>who were thinking there's to be a way to dry

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<v Speaker 1>close even if the weather is bad, or to do

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<v Speaker 1>it more quickly than just putting them all on the

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<v Speaker 1>sun for a few hours. And I'm sure that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people were doing this. But the history of

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of thing is a wee bit contentious, as

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<v Speaker 1>we find out every time we look into the history

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<v Speaker 1>of something. Yeah, as it turns out, when you want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at the history of something that's been around

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<v Speaker 1>for at least a couple uh, like like a century,

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<v Speaker 1>or more, and especially something that was done by the

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<v Speaker 1>lower classes who were not writing about it or or

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not contributing to scientific journals very frequently, or perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>didn't bother to patent something, then it's hard to find

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<v Speaker 1>reliable records. So here's a big caveat for all the

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<v Speaker 1>historical stuff you're about to listen to, dear listeners. The

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<v Speaker 1>caveat is that we did a lot of background research

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<v Speaker 1>to try and verify as many claims as we could,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of them are unverifiable, meaning that there

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<v Speaker 1>are no primary sources that are definitive. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sources that quote each other, but it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a circular thing. Yeah, which does happen on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet. Uh, not entirely and frequently right, Um, But

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<v Speaker 1>so so, most of what we're going to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>comes directly from the U. S. Patent Office. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I relied upon most heavily. Although our first example is

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<v Speaker 1>not among them because it wasn't a United States invention,

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<v Speaker 1>it was actually a French one. This is one you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see if you ever do a search for

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<v Speaker 1>the history of dryers, this is going to pop up

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Usually the year is specifically seventeen, but

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<v Speaker 1>the best I'm going to say is around the year

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundred. A French inventor known only as Poshan p

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<v Speaker 1>O c h O N sometimes listen as M. Posh On,

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<v Speaker 1>but I believe the M is for Monsieur Poshan, not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily a name that begins within, created what he called

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<v Speaker 1>a ventilator, which to me sounds like a weapon you

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<v Speaker 1>would pick up in Duke Newcombe. But in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>a ventilator was a metal drum that had some small

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<v Speaker 1>holes in it. So that might start to sound familiar

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<v Speaker 1>already to anyone who's used a dryer. And you put

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<v Speaker 1>your wet clothing into the drum and turn it using

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<v Speaker 1>a hand crank, right, and you think, well, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>now you're just turning a drum full of wet clothes

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<v Speaker 1>with holes in it. What else you have to put

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<v Speaker 1>it near a fire, yeah, as your source of heat.

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<v Speaker 1>And now here's the thing. Um. Sometimes this meant that

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<v Speaker 1>clothes would get a little uh you know, burnt, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a little little extra crispy um or or full of

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<v Speaker 1>smoke in any case, Yeah, so you would end up

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<v Speaker 1>damaging clothes this way, And according to most reports this

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<v Speaker 1>is the first tumble dryer, but didn't catch on, mostly

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<v Speaker 1>because of the downsides, Right, the idea that you would

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<v Speaker 1>end up damaging clothes, Well, if you're gonna damage them,

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<v Speaker 1>then that's not helpful at all. So the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>to me is that this basic approach that he took

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<v Speaker 1>ends up being the the kind of the central design

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<v Speaker 1>of dryers in the future. It would just take a

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<v Speaker 1>long time to perfect the heating elements, like a couple years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry, but yeah, but it's interesting that again, we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't really find any primary sources on this, so this

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<v Speaker 1>story could be apocryphal. However, I'm going to go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and say that it sounds like it's possible, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>give it a pass. Sure. Then in this is the

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<v Speaker 1>next really official dryer technology that we have to report on,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's one that we actually mentioned in our episode

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<v Speaker 1>about washing machines. That's when um Ellen Edgley invented a

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<v Speaker 1>ringer to sit on top of washing machines and help

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<v Speaker 1>dry out the laundry before you hang it on a line.

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<v Speaker 1>So so that's that's squeezing mechanism to the two rollers

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<v Speaker 1>and it rolls the clothing between and squeezes them with

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<v Speaker 1>incredible pressure that could crush your fingers if you get

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<v Speaker 1>them too close. Don't do it right right. The design

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<v Speaker 1>would later be integrated into washing machine models until these

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<v Speaker 1>tumble dryers later caught on. Yeah, so two, we have

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<v Speaker 1>another African American inventor, this one by the name George T.

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<v Speaker 1>Samps And, who filed a patent for a clothes dryer.

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<v Speaker 1>In this case, he spelled dryer d R I E R,

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<v Speaker 1>which some of the patents are in that spelling. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are d R y E R I. Can

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<v Speaker 1>do what they want. His invention wasn't a tumble dryer, however,

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<v Speaker 1>although I saw a lot of notes that said it

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<v Speaker 1>was an improvement or, in the case of some of them,

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<v Speaker 1>a betterment of Poshan's approach. Uh, it wasn't wasn't like, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a tumble dryer. The I think the betterment

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<v Speaker 1>or improvement would be that he used a stove as

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<v Speaker 1>the heat source as opposed to an open flame, so

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<v Speaker 1>it reduced the kind of damage that could happen. But yes, he,

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<v Speaker 1>as he pointed out, it was not a tumble dryer.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not like a drum that you put clothes in.

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<v Speaker 1>It was more of a frame, and you would put

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<v Speaker 1>the clothes within the frame, secure it in the frame,

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<v Speaker 1>and then put the suspend the frame near the stove

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<v Speaker 1>and the heat would would end up evaporating the water

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<v Speaker 1>out of the clothing. So, uh, it's in that pattern,

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<v Speaker 1>is in the records, so you can actually go and

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<v Speaker 1>look at it. And if you look at it, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see it is not a tumble dryer. It's not the

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<v Speaker 1>same style as posh on. So that tells me something else.

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<v Speaker 1>It tells me that some of the websites that I

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<v Speaker 1>pulled up while I was doing this just didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>and look at the patents. They just reported it as

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<v Speaker 1>being like this was an improvement on that tumble dryer,

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, always go that extra step. I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 1>to all of our listeners because I expect that they

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<v Speaker 1>will occasionally have to write things like if you're a student,

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<v Speaker 1>you may have to write a paper. This is why

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<v Speaker 1>taking that extra step, Like if you just find a

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<v Speaker 1>web page that says it's about that stuff, see if

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<v Speaker 1>you can find a primary source, because it's always going

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<v Speaker 1>to give you a better idea of what the real

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<v Speaker 1>story n Then we have a patent by Seward H.

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<v Speaker 1>Davis for his clothes drying machine. And it's interesting. So

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<v Speaker 1>now he's decided to incorporate an oven directly into the

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<v Speaker 1>device to generate heat. So we're still creating an oven.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pre heating air because obviously an oven's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to generate heat at the speed where you could just

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<v Speaker 1>blow air across it and it's going to be hot, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you would. But he also incorporate a motor in

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<v Speaker 1>his It was a motor that was connected by pulleys

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<v Speaker 1>to a rotating drum, so going back to that post

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<v Speaker 1>on approach, right, and it would rotate in one direction

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<v Speaker 1>for a few turns and then go back the other way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because according to Davis, you didn't want to continuously rotated

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<v Speaker 1>in one direction or else the clothes would become hopelessly

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<v Speaker 1>entangled with one another, and uh, it would just end

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<v Speaker 1>up being a big mess. So his design had it

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<v Speaker 1>where it would rotate one way then the other, and

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<v Speaker 1>that would prevent the clothes from getting, yeah, from clumping

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<v Speaker 1>and getting all like super friendly inside the dryer. You

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<v Speaker 1>want your clothes to be a little bit antagonistic, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. You don't want any fraternization inside the tumblers.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying, um, so yeah, pretty interesting. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he also he also specifically pointed out in the pattern

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<v Speaker 1>that the whole idea was to allow the clothes to fall,

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<v Speaker 1>to tumble, like you didn't want to just spin and

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<v Speaker 1>try and force the water out, but to tumble, because

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<v Speaker 1>that tumbling motion would have it go through that hot

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<v Speaker 1>air and thus evaporate the water much more quickly, pushing

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<v Speaker 1>the air through it. And therefore sure, yeah, yeah, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cool. Nine Henry Sieben he attempts a different approach.

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<v Speaker 1>His patent has a closed dryer that is more like

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<v Speaker 1>a heated cabinet with wire shelving inside it. So imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that you have like a little like cabinet or closet

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<v Speaker 1>and it's got wire shelves, and you put the clothes

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<v Speaker 1>on the shelves, and then you have an electric fan

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<v Speaker 1>that draws air through the machine, which allowed for faster drying. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't specifically include an element that with heat air,

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<v Speaker 1>but you would presumably have this near some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>other device that would heat the air, like a stove.

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<v Speaker 1>So this cabinet would just pull the air through, which

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<v Speaker 1>would circulate through the clothes, so kind of similar to

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<v Speaker 1>Seward H. Davis's approach of tumbling, but they're stationary, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's just pulling the air. So again this another idea

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<v Speaker 1>that becomes important in uh in modern day dryers. So

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<v Speaker 1>the important thing to remember here is the fan that

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<v Speaker 1>holes the air through. These are all various elements, the

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<v Speaker 1>tumbler pulling the air through. These are all things that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to come into play with the modern day dryers.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you still had to preheat the air though with

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<v Speaker 1>something like a stove. Then we get to nineteen thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the guy that most people credit as Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>although again the citations different from what I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to find. Okay, see, because he filed for a patent

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety seven, this is James are more James right?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Um, it wasn't granted until, which we suspect

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<v Speaker 1>World War two probably had something to do, had other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on their minds, right, the patent office was probably drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So yeah, seven is the filing and is the

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<v Speaker 1>awarding makes perfect sense. But it was for a closed

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<v Speaker 1>drying machine. And this is the basis for closed dryers

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<v Speaker 1>as we now know them. And so he what he

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<v Speaker 1>did was he added applying heated air that didn't need

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<v Speaker 1>to be preheated in an oven. He wanted to have

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<v Speaker 1>a heating element either a gas hour or electric and

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<v Speaker 1>in fact would eventually create both types. Right. He He

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<v Speaker 1>also created a ventilation system so that air can can

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<v Speaker 1>move through the dryer and then exhaust out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>carrying that water vapor out. So you see, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the combination of that rotating drum and that idea of

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<v Speaker 1>the cabin exactly. So by combining the two, he has

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<v Speaker 1>the best approach. And in fact, you could tell us

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<v Speaker 1>the best approach because it's the one that lasted the

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<v Speaker 1>test of time. So yeah, he uh as often cited

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of the websites we saw as having

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<v Speaker 1>patented this this approach as early as nineteen thirty. But

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the patent office, I mean online to

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<v Speaker 1>the patent office. He didn't like, you didn't go there.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't actually take a trip to the patent office.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they probably would have thrown the out of

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<v Speaker 1>the patent off. They were like, how did you find

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<v Speaker 1>your way in here? And I was like, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to see your archives from nineteen thirty. Yeah, that probably

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<v Speaker 1>would not have gone over. Well, they said, you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>of the internet, right, Well, you can actually do searches

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<v Speaker 1>online on the patent office. Google has a great patent

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<v Speaker 1>search function, but you can also go to the U

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<v Speaker 1>S Patent Office and use their search function. I use

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<v Speaker 1>both because I could not find it in one, so

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to try both versions. You need to find

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<v Speaker 1>a keywords pretty pretty acutely. Yeah, but it but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little more forgiving. But with the US one

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<v Speaker 1>you can find everything listed in chronological order, whereas with

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<v Speaker 1>Google you get it by order of relevance to your query.

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<v Speaker 1>So in other words, you might see the first one

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<v Speaker 1>pop up and say nineteen forty five, and the next

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<v Speaker 1>one says nineteen twenty seven, and the next one says

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty three, and you're like, oh man, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take forever to find the oldest one. U S Patent

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<v Speaker 1>does it chronologically, with the oldest being the last on

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<v Speaker 1>the list. I went through both. The earliest I can

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<v Speaker 1>find was nineteen thirty seven as a filing date, let

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<v Speaker 1>alone a patent granted date, So I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>where they pulled this date of nineteen thirty They also

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<v Speaker 1>said that he sold the patent in nineteen thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't even file for a pat until nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven. I don't know where you get your informa

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<v Speaker 1>Asian Internet, so you should check it more carefully. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, he did file in nineteen thirty seven, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did end up working with another company in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight. That company would be the Hamilton's Manufacturing Company

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<v Speaker 1>located in Two Rivers, Wisconsin, Pride and Joy of Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 1>of Two Rivers, Wisconsin. Anyway, they actually have a museum

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to this former manufacturing company, and they used James R.

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<v Speaker 1>Moore's design. They actually paid him for this, and they

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<v Speaker 1>released in ninety eight the June Day Clothes Dryer based

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<v Speaker 1>off this design. The early models used gas for heat

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<v Speaker 1>to heat the heating element, so you'd have to like

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<v Speaker 1>light the pilot light every time you wanted to dry

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<v Speaker 1>a load of laundry, and then once you were done

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<v Speaker 1>drying that load of laundry, should probably remember to blow

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Yeah, you had to extinguish it or else

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<v Speaker 1>you would just be wasting lots of gas or possibly

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<v Speaker 1>creating a fire hazard, which, by the way, dryers big

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<v Speaker 1>fire hazards. In general, do not run your dryer and

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<v Speaker 1>then leave the house just in case. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to scare anybody, but it is, but lint

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<v Speaker 1>fires can happen. Yeah, so just a little word of

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<v Speaker 1>caution in the middle of the episode. But yeah, later

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<v Speaker 1>models were electric and they still created the gas ones too,

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<v Speaker 1>but manufacturing was interrupted shortly after they started. They produced

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<v Speaker 1>about six thousand of them and then stopped suddenly, all

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<v Speaker 1>because of the event we have already referenced in this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>afore mentioned World War too. Yep, so World War two

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<v Speaker 1>causes a manufacturer to stop. This was the case across

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<v Speaker 1>multiple industries because yeah, the war effort needed all that

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<v Speaker 1>material and and labor and a lot of the factory space. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so all of that meant that dryers were not seen

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<v Speaker 1>as being important to the war effort. It was put

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<v Speaker 1>on hold. World War two was was over and the

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton's Manufacturing Company got back into this, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>no longer the only game in town. By this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Another big company, much bigger than Hamilton's Manufacturing actually got

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<v Speaker 1>into the closed dryer game, and that would be General Electric.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then it was off to the races, but

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<v Speaker 1>but not not fast races and not not cheap races, no,

0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:13.840
<v Speaker 1>incredibly expensive races, very very slow, expensive races. Around the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, the first electric dryer to include a glass

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<v Speaker 1>window in the front was introduced. And this is a

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<v Speaker 1>design element, you know, it's it's it's just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>nice to look at. But I wanted to mention it

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<v Speaker 1>because it was designed by Brooks Stevens, who's another wisconsinite.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a Wisconsin designer who also worked in in architecture, furniture,

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<v Speaker 1>and auto design, including that greatest car of all, the

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar Meyer Weenomobile. Man truly a visionary. We could do

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<v Speaker 1>a full episode just on that. Actually I should mention

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<v Speaker 1>all the inventors we've talked about have done some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal things besides inventing dryers. So but this, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>no one approached creating the Auscar Meer Wiener mobile aso.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we won't go back and fill those out

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty s. Well, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics,

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<v Speaker 1>a dryer in the mid nineteen fifties cost about two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty dollars, which if you adjust for inflation, would be

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<v Speaker 1>closer to two thousand dollars for a dryer. Yes, so

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<v Speaker 1>not a whole lot of people could afford it. On um.

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<v Speaker 1>I shall also point out that this same paper cited

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<v Speaker 1>some of the erroneous sources that I mentioned earlier. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that could not be supported by, say, the

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<v Speaker 1>Patent Office. I guess the Bureau of Labor Statistics in

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<v Speaker 1>the patent offices don't don't talk to each other frequently. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this inner departmental stress type thing. This was I had

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<v Speaker 1>to include it. I mean, there are some crazy patents

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<v Speaker 1>out there, y'all. If you if you ever have a

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<v Speaker 1>really slow day and you just want to amuse yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>just start typing random words into a Google patent search

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<v Speaker 1>and then enjoy. But one of the crazy ones I

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<v Speaker 1>found was filed by William C. Sholin and the title

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<v Speaker 1>of the patent is hair drying attachment for clothes dryer.

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<v Speaker 1>This this cannot be what I think it is. I mean, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think it's you're putting your hair in a

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<v Speaker 1>clothes dryer, it's not. But if you think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>tube connected to your clothes dryer that's used as a

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<v Speaker 1>hair dryer, it totally is. It's a tube using the

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<v Speaker 1>heat from the the dryer. I guess, I guess. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to conserve energy, and so if you're already

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<v Speaker 1>creating that heat, you might as well, yeah, dryer your hair,

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<v Speaker 1>even though even though you're mostly using steam at that point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so the hair dryer. It's one of those where it's

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<v Speaker 1>got like the whole thing that comes of the fad,

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<v Speaker 1>the helmet. Yeah, I have no idea what those are called.

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<v Speaker 1>My hair days are long over, but anyway, it would

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<v Speaker 1>fit over the person's head and uh, and presumably dry

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<v Speaker 1>it using the heat from the hair dryer. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how popular this invention was if it were

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<v Speaker 1>ever actually uh, you know, built because just because something's

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<v Speaker 1>patented doesn't mean that you're going to have real examples

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But if you want to look this up,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a treat for you. Here's the patent number.

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<v Speaker 1>You can put into a search, three million, sixty four thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred sixty and you can look at the illustrations.

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<v Speaker 1>Depending upon the patent search you put in, you may

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<v Speaker 1>or may not need to use the commas in that number.

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<v Speaker 1>You just could put in the digits three zero six

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<v Speaker 1>four zero. It's entertaining, but obviously I can't really show

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<v Speaker 1>it on an audio podcast at any rate. In Um,

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<v Speaker 1>a vacuum chamber related dryer was proposed. Yeah, William Lambert

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<v Speaker 1>Chanley filed a patent for a drayer that would use

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<v Speaker 1>a vacuum chamber. And this makes sense when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, in the sense that in a vacuum, it

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<v Speaker 1>takes less heat to evaporate water. Yeah, so if you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to create a partial vacuum. We're not talking like

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<v Speaker 1>a complete vacuum, but if you were able to create

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<v Speaker 1>a partial vacuum within a dryer, then you could pressure

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you don't have to heat up the air

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<v Speaker 1>as much, so you don't have to pourse my energy

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<v Speaker 1>in it. As we'll talk about a little bit later,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a lot of energy to power a dryer.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it's one of the most energy hungry appliances

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<v Speaker 1>that typical house has, so this will be a way

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<v Speaker 1>of reducing that. Also, Channeling maintained that the high quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote roasting temperatures of clothes dryers and the fast rotation

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<v Speaker 1>of the drum meant that clothing was being damaged and

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<v Speaker 1>turned into lent, and that his invention would appeal to

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<v Speaker 1>people who wanted to get a more gentle drying of

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<v Speaker 1>their clothing. It wouldn't require as much rigor. Now this

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<v Speaker 1>particular approach has been experimented with a few times, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough to make a chamber that is a partial vacuum,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly if you need to have an exhaust to the

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<v Speaker 1>outside to get rid of steam. Then you can't really

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<v Speaker 1>make a vacuum without crazy valves and then having a

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<v Speaker 1>venting time as well as a vacuum time, and and

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<v Speaker 1>and and more energy being put in even than a

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<v Speaker 1>regular dryer. Yeah, you can't. You obviously can't keep introducing

0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.399
<v Speaker 1>hot air into such a thing because then you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a vacuum. So it's it's one of those that

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<v Speaker 1>was an interesting idea, but no one i think, has

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<v Speaker 1>really found a way of implementing it where it really

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<v Speaker 1>made sense. Plus it it makes it you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to make a partial vacuum. It means they would

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<v Speaker 1>make it more expensive. Yeah, they are working. NASA is

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<v Speaker 1>funding someone to work on something related to that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about that way at the end of the podcast. Excellent,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little teaser for you. So in the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>again going back to our friends at the Bureau of

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Statistics while they're not talking to the patent office.

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<v Speaker 1>The price of a dryer was closer to a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>ninety dollars, which in today's money is closer to a

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<v Speaker 1>grand so half the expense of what it was in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen yeah and about forty of all households had one.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we get up to nineteen seven, the unit

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<v Speaker 1>price is about three hundred forty dollars. So remember it

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<v Speaker 1>was a hundred ninety dollars in nineteen seventies, three forty

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven, and you think, oh, what the heck the

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<v Speaker 1>price went up. It didn't go down well, except that

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<v Speaker 1>when you adjust for inflation from nine seven, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close to three and forty dollars. So the value

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<v Speaker 1>has of that money has increased, the buying power has

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<v Speaker 1>increased um for that amount for three dollars, so you

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<v Speaker 1>don't so it's actually cheaper in the long run. Um

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<v Speaker 1>and of households owned a dryer by this time. That

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<v Speaker 1>same year, over in Europe, a manufacturer called Electrolux would

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<v Speaker 1>develop an energy efficient type of machine, the heat pump

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<v Speaker 1>or hydraulic dryer. Over the next couple of years, UM

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<v Speaker 1>that they had gained market share kind of slowly but

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<v Speaker 1>surely over in Europe and also in Australia, although they

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.560
<v Speaker 1>have not caught on yet in the United States. UM.

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>More on how those work later on. But but they're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. They use some like forty ft of the

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 1>amount of energy the traditional dryers do, so that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome. Yeah, and now we're getting up to just

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<v Speaker 1>about today, right yeah. Okay, So so every year Energy Star,

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.400
<v Speaker 1>which is a program within the e p A, the

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 1>the US Environmental Protection Agency, UM, they announced an area

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:56.360
<v Speaker 1>of technology that's deserving of what they call an Emerging

0:23:56.400 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Technology Award, and in it was advance clothes dryers UM,

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 1>which makes sense. According to Consumer Reports, dryer's account for

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:08.919
<v Speaker 1>some six percent of US home energy use, which accounts

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 1>for for three or more per year, which is think

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:16.160
<v Speaker 1>about this. You aren't running your dryer constantly. Your run

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>your dryer occasionally when you have to do laundry, and

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.439
<v Speaker 1>you don't necessarily have to do laundry every single day.

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>So if you're talking about an appliance that you only

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.919
<v Speaker 1>use occasionally and it makes up six percent of your energy,

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's incredible. Yeah. Yeah, it means that you know,

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.399
<v Speaker 1>really small innovations could make for pretty huge savings and

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 1>in terms of both money and you know, overall carbon footprints. Um. So.

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>So the e P A specifically or energy star I

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.119
<v Speaker 1>guess I should say specifically called out a Samsung model

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>uh named Cleverly DV for rolls off the tongue does

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 1>um uh that it estimates could save enough energy to

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:58.440
<v Speaker 1>run an efficient clothing washer for eleven months um and

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 1>also has an integrated smart system for monitoring your clothes

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>remotely via app Yo dog, your shirt is dry? Uh, well,

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean you're you're you're joking, But there

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.360
<v Speaker 1>are sensors in these new kinds of dryers that will

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>test moisture in your clothing. They can shut off automatically

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>when your clothes are dry. That that was one of

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the one of the specific considerations for this award. It

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.119
<v Speaker 1>had to the dryers they were looking at had to

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>contain at least two types of sensors for determining when

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>your clothes are dry. And just that way, you cut

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:31.919
<v Speaker 1>off the cycle. Yeah, you don't have it continuing for

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:35.160
<v Speaker 1>some predetermined amount of time when the clothes are already dry.

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>There's no need to keep it going. I mean, you're

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>just wasting energy and shrinking clothes unless you're strapped for entertainment,

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's just you know, you're just sitting there watching

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the clothes tumble, in which case, Hi, dr horrible. Uh.

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, we got a lot more to say. Specifically,

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>we're going to cover how these things are actually working.

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>But before we get into that, let's take a quick

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>break to thank our sponsor. Okay, So now we're back

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>with ratists specifically dig into how Ryer's work, and we've

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of mentioned a lot of the elements already. You've

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>got a typical clothes dryer, so we're talking about just

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>your basic model that, yeah, most of mostly in the

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>United States, is the type you're going to run into.

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>UM has a rotating tumbler. So that's your drum that

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.439
<v Speaker 1>rotates around and around and the clothes tumble within it.

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>You've got some kind of heating element to heat air,

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>which is then somehow drawn through that tumbler, right, So

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>you probably have holes in the tumbler to allow air

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 1>to pass through, and then you've got an exhaust pipe

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>of some sort so you can vent out that the

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.439
<v Speaker 1>warm humid air. Yeah, because no, you don't want to

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>keep the steam in there. It's just gonna make the

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>clothes take even longer to dry. So by venting it

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.640
<v Speaker 1>out and constantly replacing it with dry, warm air, you're

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna end up, you know, drying a much faster. You

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>just vent out all the steam. So let's start talking

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 1>about all these various elements and how they work together.

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's start with the fans. Yeah, yeah, let's start. Let's

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>start at the end. Yeah, the because the end is

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the beginning. The beginning is the end. It is the

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>alpha and the omega of d it's a flat circle. Yeah, yeah,

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 1>it is. We didn't mean to get all philosophical, but

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it is pretty late on a Thursday afternoon, guys, and

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 1>things get weird. So the fan is located at the

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>exhaust end of the dryer. It's not at the very

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>front of the dryer's at the very end of it.

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>But it ends up when it turns pulling air in

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>from the dryer and exhausting it out the exhaust vent.

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>That's the direction of air flow, so it's not blowing

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.199
<v Speaker 1>air in, it's essentially pulling air out of it. So

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>that means you kind of have some place for air

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to come into the dryer or else it is trying

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to create a vacuum, right, which is less effective. That's

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>less effective. Yeah, if you just have a heating element

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and you create a vacuum, then you've got a hot

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>spot in your in your dryer and no air inside

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the tumbler, and that's not going to help. So these

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>dryers have vents or holes that are in them that

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>allow air to pass into the actual dryer and and

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>be pulled in. Yeah, pulled in and then passed over

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>a heating element, which, as we mentioned before, is either

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>powered by gas or electric power. So this heating element, um,

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that in just a second, but that's

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>what's creating the increase in temperature in the air, which

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 1>will then, once it is warm, continue into the tumbler

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>where the clothes are. Yeah, I mean, if you've loaded

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 1>your dryer correctly where the clothes should be exactly. If

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the clothes are not in there, you've done something very wrong,

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, and we've made some assumptions and we apologize,

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>but no, you put the clothes in the tumbler, that's

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>where the warm air goes into. Next, it passes into

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the door area. That's where the lent screen. The air,

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>not the clothes. Yes, the air. Yes, if you close

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>are passing through the door area, you have not replaced

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the lent screen, and you should do that. So the

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>LN screen is there obviously to capture lent from clothing

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't end up clogging up the rest of

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the system. But that's where the airflow goes to next.

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's coming in through these venting areas into the

0:28:55.480 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>tumbler out through the door venting area. Pulled passes through

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the fan because that the next stop is where the

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>fan is, and then the fan blows it out the

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>exhaust area, which usually you have some sort of weird

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that that tubing stuff, you know, the tubing stuff that

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you can cut in half and then you can have

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>robot arms. My cosplay is different from your cosplay. That

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>is accurate. I have a video that proves that. So

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>that's your basic airflow, and that is the secret to

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>drying the clothes is that introducing this dry warm air,

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>possibly dry hot air. It all depends upon the mode

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you've set it on. We'll talk about that in the

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>second certainly. Okay, so let's talk about how it gets

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>warm or hot. What is this heating element? Like, Okay,

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>have you ever seen a toaster and you know when

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you when you we're not talking about cylons, right, No, No,

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean no, because I've seen those two. We don't

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the cylons because they might show up. No,

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about toaster toaster, So we're talking about you know,

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you put a put a piece of bread in a

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 1>toaster and you set it down. Then you see those

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>little wires turn red hot. That's essentially what we're talking about.

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 1>SAME's of a a heating element, it's without of nichrome wire.

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>So what you're doing is you're passing a current through

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>this wire. The wire has a resistance to current. Resistance

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>means that quite a lot of resistance. Actually yeah. Um,

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of the opposite of what you want to

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>do in any kind of electronic wire technology, where you're

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to insulate it so much that that it has

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>as low of a resistance as possible. Right. Yeah, when

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>with low resistance you make it really really efficient, right,

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you're not losing energy to heat. But in this case,

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>what you want to do is generate heat, is lose

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>as much energy to heat as possible because that's the

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of energy. One is the heat energy. You're not

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>interested in passing electricity on to some other points. So

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in this case, this electricity gets converted into heat due

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>to that electrical resistance. And this is the element of

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the dryer that consumes the most power that the rotating

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>drum not even close, the fan not even close. It's

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>this heating element. So a typical dryer is pulling in

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>like four thousand to six thousand watts. That's a lot. Yeah. Yeah,

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Now we've got the tumbler. Uh, it's it's a really

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>simple pulley system. Actually, you know, you got a motor,

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the motor, electric motor or gas powered motor. A belt

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>attaches from the motor to the tumbler, and the motor turns.

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>That ends up turning the belt, which ends up turning

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the tumbler. It's pretty it's one of the simplest machines ever. Actually.

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.719
<v Speaker 1>The policy system, so yeah, usually you have to have

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, two pulleys that are involved. One is

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>creating tension on the other so that it stays in place,

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.479
<v Speaker 1>because obviously, like if it slips a belt, that's when

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>you're starting to get this weird noise. And your dryer

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>is not gonna be turning properly, and then you need

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>to shut things down before your motor burns out. But

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>assuming everything's working fine, it's just gonna turn the tumbler. Next.

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>We have the controls. So we have two different types

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>of controls. Right. The modern dryers you would buy in

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>an appliance store today, most of them have digital controls,

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>which involves having a micro controller. But if you're going

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>with an old dryer, let's say like the kind of

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>dryer I grew up with where it had like a

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>dial and buttons. Yeah, you punch the button saying okay,

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do permanent press, and you push the

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>permanent press button and it and it clicks in and

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>then you would turn the dial to the right setting

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and then uh, it would be possessed and start rumbling.

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's because there would be a series of of

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:16.479
<v Speaker 1>gears and cams. So and it worked a little bit

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>like a like an egg timer. Yeah, yeah, kind of. Yeah,

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>you have like a you have you can you have

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>a physical capacity that that when it ran out, it

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>would it would cause a shot off valve, a shot

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>off circuit disconnect. Yeah, because with the cam you can

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>think of it as like, think of it like a

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>metal key, and when the metal key makes contact with

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>a contact point, it completes a circuit. Right, So when

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the circuits complete, electricity can flow. And then as long

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>as that that key is making contact with the contact point,

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it'll stay in place. The electricity will continue to flow.

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>But at the time or when the timer comes out,

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>a mechanical piece will push the key out of the way,

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>breaking the circuit and thus the dryer. Yeah, so we're

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about programming something through actual phizz iCal moving pieces,

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>mechanical pieces, but it's it's doing the same source of

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff that digital controller is doing digitally, it's just doing

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>it all mechanically and with electronic pieces. So yeah, it's

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of exciting stuff. Like if you ever were to

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>take one of these apart, first of all, I hope

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't need it afterward, because if you do anything,

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're anything like us, you're not going

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>to get that back together. No. No, we might be

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>able to put something back together, but it ain't gonna work.

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's just put it that way. It'll look really interesting though. Yeah,

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 1>so you could actually see that there are all these

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>little moving parts that need to come into play so

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>that they touch these contact points and create these circuits.

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>They also usually have In fact, as far as I know,

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>dryers are required to have temperature shut off switches. And

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.479
<v Speaker 1>these aren't to measure the temperature of your clothing, but

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:50.719
<v Speaker 1>the the temperature of the overall unit, so that if

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>it gets too warm, um, and is in danger of

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>melting down the motor or any of the other operative

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>parts or causing a fire. Causing a fire, it can

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>shut down. Yeah, It'll just break that contact and you

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>will lose the circuit, and thus the dryer will shut down. UM.

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.399
<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's kind of a fail safe there.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>And uh, some of them, like we said, have the

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>humidity sensors, so they can actually measure how much humidity

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>is within the dryer and if it reaches below a

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>certain threshold, then the dryer will shut off because your

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>clothes are dry, so that doesn't have to continue to

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:26.919
<v Speaker 1>operate and thus consume more energy. Now, there are other

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>types of clothes dryers out there. That's the basic type,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the one that's the most common United States. But

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<v Speaker 1>like you were saying, Lauren, it's not the only kind

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<v Speaker 1>out there. One of them is called a condensing clothes dryer.

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<v Speaker 1>So these don't have a vent to exhaust steam. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that fan pulling the air through inventing it out. Instead,

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>these dryers allow water to condense and then collect, either

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<v Speaker 1>draining into a collection pan or tank, or more likely

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>draining into the house water waste system. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a washer dryer combo, something that can act is

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<v Speaker 1>both washer and a dryer, it's usually this type of dryer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a condenser dryer more often than not. Uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>so putting an exhaust on a washer that would be

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<v Speaker 1>really not good. Yeah, I mean you've got like the

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<v Speaker 1>wastewater exhaust. But if you had just a pipe that

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to allow air to go through, water would

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>go through that too. Yeah yeah so yeah, which would

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<v Speaker 1>make it an inefficient washer. So yeah, then you have

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<v Speaker 1>the heat pump dryers, like you were saying, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>these these have a these have just just a normal

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<v Speaker 1>old heat pump. I mean, I mean the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we were talking about in in in our

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<v Speaker 1>refrigerator episode. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's a heat exchanger. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got a hot side and a cold side, so the

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<v Speaker 1>cold side is really important because you've got that hot,

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<v Speaker 1>steamy air and when you have hot steamy air meat

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<v Speaker 1>a cold service, that's when you have water condensing, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that condensed water can then flow into a pan

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<v Speaker 1>or a drain, just like in the condenser style. The

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<v Speaker 1>warm side of the heat pomp can reheat the air

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<v Speaker 1>inside the dryer. So as the dryer air is losing

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<v Speaker 1>energy because it's encountering that wet water and causing it

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<v Speaker 1>to evaporate, that means that the air temperatures to go down.

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<v Speaker 1>But this heat pomp continues that cycle, so the cold

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<v Speaker 1>side is removing the water, the hot side is increasing

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the temperature, so you can have a more efficient means

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<v Speaker 1>of drying out the clothes inside. So again, no need

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<v Speaker 1>to exhaust unless which is great because if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to exhaust this thing, like by exhaust, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to have a pipe where the exhaust

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<v Speaker 1>air flows through. There's no need for that in this model,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's great because when you have an exhaust pipe

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that's open to the environment, that means that you're losing

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 1>some of the heat that you want to put inside

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.439
<v Speaker 1>the clothes just going out the exhaust pipe. Oh sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're you're losing through that exhaust pipe that heat

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>out into your house, which, for example, during the summer months,

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>can make you run your acemore more intensely. Yeah. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a domino effect, right, So then we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk a little bit about these future dryers. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the which one of the ones that you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>So first of all, there was an idea back in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixties to try and use microwaves as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a means of drying clothes, So you would make

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<v Speaker 1>a special old dryer would be a microwave dryer. Supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>there are some of these in Japan, but I've never

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>seen like an actual source source about it. But the

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>real problem with this is arcing. So arcing is when

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you get these little plasma forms. If you've ever accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>put something metal in a microwave, and here's where I

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you do not put metal in a mica that's

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>very bad. But if you've ever accidentally done it, then

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>you might have seen arking where you see these little

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>plasmas lightning bolts. Yeah, or if you've ever had one

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>of those plasma balls where you put your fingers on it.

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like that too. In fact, it is like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's happening. Um, it's not good for your microwave

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.879
<v Speaker 1>in general. I used to have a microwave that had

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a special stand that came with the microwave. Okay, that

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>was meant for popcorn, Like you put a bag of

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>microwave popcorn on it, and it would elevate the popcorn

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>so that it would have more uniform heating. Despite the

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.879
<v Speaker 1>fact that this came with the microwave, which I would

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 1>assume means it's say, to put in the microwave, it

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>would occasionally mark. Not all the time, but sometimes you

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 1>would get a mark, and I would think, I do

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 1>not want microup microwave popcorn that badly. Yeah, that's vaguely terrifying. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, if you were to put stuff that's like

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<v Speaker 1>if you had metal stuff in your clothes, either like

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>change or zippers or yeah, or buttons or other clasps

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>things that are metal, then that could possibly cause this

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>arcing problem which could damage clothing. And in fact, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the main reason we haven't really seen it implemented. There

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>have been other people who have tested it, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>still people who are thinking that there might be a

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<v Speaker 1>way of doing this in a in a in a

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<v Speaker 1>manner that's not going to make your clothes burn up

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<v Speaker 1>or right right, which is really the purpose of me

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 1>drying my clothes. I don't know about everybody else. Well,

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>there are occasionally shirts where I'm like, no, never mind,

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll see step one for me, as I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get my clothes dry, but step two is I do

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<v Speaker 1>not want to burn holes in them. Yes, but okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So as unlikely as it sounds that this could be

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<v Speaker 1>a really viable plan. This, this is the kind of

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>system that that NASA has granted some some money too.

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<v Speaker 1>They granted one company specifically called Umqua all in capital

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<v Speaker 1>letters because why not, ye it's spelled exactly the way

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>it sounds. They granted them some funding through their Small

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<v Speaker 1>Business Innovative Research Program back in Tleven and um that

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<v Speaker 1>the system that UMA is working on the last time

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<v Speaker 1>I checked, involves ceiling clothes in in a vacuum bag

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<v Speaker 1>and um cleaning them by jetting water and soap through

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<v Speaker 1>the bag and then drying them via microwave radiation and

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:33.919
<v Speaker 1>then furthermore making them all soft and cuddly with jets

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<v Speaker 1>of air. Interesting, so You've got a whole bunch of

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>things in there that are are similar to approaches that

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 1>were considered failures. Yeah, so maybe this could be a

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 1>terrific failure in space. Space. In space, nobody can clean

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>your underwear. It's a problem. I mean yeah, I mean,

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean you either you either have to bring infinite

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<v Speaker 1>changes of underpants with you, right, which, try and get

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that through customs, right right, I mean, and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>expensive to bring stuff into space. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, I mean you you want to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to wash him. Everyone wants to clean underwear. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that is very and if you don't, you should. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not judging. We're just I'm judging. Okay, we're judging

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<v Speaker 1>a little all right. So anyway, that wraps up this

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<v Speaker 1>discussion about clothes dryers. I hope that Thomas enjoyed this episode. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we've already received a request for what will eventually become

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<v Speaker 1>the third part of our series of cleaning clothing. Who knew?

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<v Speaker 1>H Yeah, dry cleaning. Yeah, dry cleaning will be the

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<v Speaker 1>next one we tackle. Obviously, it will not be the

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<v Speaker 1>next episode. Now we'll figure out. Gonna give it a

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<v Speaker 1>break for a little minute. You know, we gave it

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months for for washing clothes and dryers,

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<v Speaker 1>so the same sort of thing is going to apply

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