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Speaker 1: Everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's Thursday, February thirteenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We come up with some of

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Speaker 2: these things on the fly. It's me and your man,

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Speaker 2: NAMG Marcus Grand joined by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I don't even know where to start the show.

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Speaker 2: Lakwan you you just came back from New Orleans. I hear,

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Speaker 2: tew you are turning right back around and heading back

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Speaker 2: down to the Big easy.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be heading back to New Orleans next week.

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Speaker 4: I leave Tuesday for the HBCU Legsy Bull, which is

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Speaker 4: gonna be fun. Get to hang with Bucky Brooks, Charles Davis,

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Speaker 4: Michael Yaman. Of course, my guy is Steve Weisch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear.

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Speaker 2: Look, if there's a guy that you want to hang

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Speaker 2: out in New Orleans with, it is Steve Weisch.

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Speaker 1: I hear. He knows all the spots.

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Speaker 3: It's the mayor.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the mayor.

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Speaker 2: He knows those spots, especially to go eat, which is

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Speaker 2: saying a lot because there's a lot of great restaurants there,

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Speaker 2: so it's like no, especially the spots to go eat.

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Speaker 3: It's like a superpower, oh superpower for row.

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Speaker 4: You eat good the entire time with Steve like he

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Speaker 4: knows all the breakfast spots, lunch spots, night night gap.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 3: I gotta hit hit Steve up. I'm throwing a bachelor

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Speaker 3: party for my friend in New Orleans this summer. I've

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Speaker 3: never been, so yo, let's let's go. I need to

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Speaker 3: get Steve to give me all the all the recommendations.

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Speaker 1: It is a good town now.

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Speaker 2: I know you don't like seafood though, Florios that might

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Speaker 2: make it a little difficult.

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Speaker 1: Still, plenty of places to eat.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna send all my friends to places with seafood

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Speaker 1: That's cool.

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Speaker 2: There's plenty of good stuff like that too. So for sure,

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Speaker 2: season's over. I know a lot of folks are turning

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Speaker 2: drafts and those sorts of things are open. In fact,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do a mock draft, which I do one

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Speaker 2: every month, and we'll recap it on the show.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna start doing that really really soon. But

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Speaker 1: we figured it's a good.

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Speaker 2: Time to kind of start talking about rankings. Right, it's February.

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Speaker 2: I get it, it's way too early. Things that we

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Speaker 1: But it's a good starting spot, right.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about some of our similarities, our differences, guys,

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Speaker 2: we think that maybe making the leap and that sort

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Speaker 1: Now the Jets are admitting that they talked.

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Speaker 2: To Aaron Rodgers and said that's I think we should

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Speaker 1: It's not me, it's you.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is that they said to Aaron Rodgers, go

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Speaker 2: What do the Jets do at quarterback now? That Aaron

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Speaker 2: He was a guy that I kind of struggled with

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Speaker 2: But it's just like it's always stuff where we're just

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Speaker 2: Like that was the baseline, Just be better than Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, which is so toxic of him to go

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Speaker 3: So same out come, just lose.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see if somebody takes a chance on him.

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Speaker 4: If he just wants to work, he stay home.

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Speaker 2: There's always podcasting, there's always that public service, right, like h.

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Speaker 2: the next segment. So let's start with the quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 2: figure we just go through our list of the top ten.

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Speaker 2: We'll sort of figure out, you know, where these similarities are,

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Speaker 2: start the conversation from there. So, LaQuan, if you would

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Speaker 2: like to hit us with your your top ten, sir,

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Speaker 2: I am all ears.

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Speaker 3: Oh quarterbacks who are starting with right?

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, all right?

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Speaker 4: So the top two we can interchange, and it's obviously

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Speaker 4: going to be Lamar or Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: So there.

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Speaker 4: I really don't care about the debate there. It could

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Speaker 3: That's my top ten right there.

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Speaker 2: All right, alright, so that's your top ten. Flora, hit

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Speaker 2: All right, okay, So again the top two are the same.

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Speaker 2: I've got Lamar one, Josh Allen two. Not gonna argue

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Speaker 3: You don't have Mahomes in your top ten?

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Speaker 1: I do not.

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Speaker 2: I do not have Mahomes in my top ten? What

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Speaker 2: about what about Patrick? It's not even hate? Tell me

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Speaker 2: what about Patrick Mahomes makes him a top ten fantasy

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Speaker 3: Right, well, even this year, I believe he finished tenth

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Speaker 1: I mean through week eighteen he was twelve.

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Speaker 3: Okay to me, because I went I've spent a lot

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Speaker 4: Here because you had him at eight, Lakwan, I got

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Speaker 2: I think you guys are really overrating Marquise Brown.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Some could say I think there's untapped potential here because

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Speaker 1: Maybe.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just look at it's been It's been

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's so much unknown with this team.

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Speaker 2: So I look, I remained skept. I've got for the record,

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Speaker 2: I put I put Mahomes at thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Not terrible, No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: I mean I see the arguments, like every the guys

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Speaker 1: Ways I could go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, so many ways I could go. So I was,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking at I'm just looking at our

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Speaker 3: I don't have Baker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lakwan, you don't have Baker, but you also are

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Speaker 2: the only one with Herbert in your time. Tyler right, no,

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Speaker 2: Kyler either in your top ten. I'm very proud of

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Speaker 4: Proud of I had to push him down, but he's

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Speaker 4: still going to be, you know, a top ten quarterback unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, but I'm proud of you. I

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Speaker 2: just didn't know if you would give Jared goof his

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Speaker 3: I coach you. I like the guy. Now you know

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Speaker 3: he's not affecting. He's still a google though.

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Speaker 2: All right, then, Florida, you are the only one with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this I will admit was a projection because like,

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Speaker 3: This is me kind of one.

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Speaker 1: You guys know.

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Speaker 3: I love Drake May, but I'm also the Patriots have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, I understand the arguments for it.

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Speaker 1: And then again, it's February.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is stone cold in stone that this

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Speaker 2: Right If you switched, If you switched by week one,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys had the same takeaway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's I think that is a fair

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Speaker 1: By the way it gets us too.

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Speaker 4: I feel like there's just so much that is going

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Speaker 4: to be, you know, a round brace shown that it's

439
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Speaker 4: going to be impossible impossible for him to take a

440
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Speaker 4: step back, because I don't know what that switch was,

441
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Speaker 4: but he came back balling out, like he came back

442
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Speaker 4: knowing where his guys were when he was under pressure,

443
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Speaker 4: coming back knowing how to get xaverery Lee get involved

444
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Speaker 4: in the offense more than just like a gadget guy.

445
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Speaker 4: Like these were just the little things that I saw

446
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Speaker 4: that I think he could definitely take a leap for fantasy.

447
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Speaker 1: All right, Floryd, who's your guy.

448
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Speaker 3: That makes the leap this year? I feel like I

449
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Speaker 3: might be stealing yours, Marcus. But Williams. But you know what,

450
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you talk about Caleb Marcus. I'm going

451
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Speaker 3: to go even deeper. Okay, give me Anthony Richardson here,

452
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Speaker 3: because Richardson all the same upside. I would argue that

453
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Speaker 3: that he that we thought he had last year, except

454
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Speaker 3: you're not gonna have to take him top five or

455
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Speaker 3: close to it. You're not gonna have to take him

456
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Speaker 3: as a QB one. Like we named between the three

457
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Speaker 3: of us, probably like sixteen different quarterbacks. Not one of

458
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Speaker 3: us even mentioned the name Anthony Richardson. So if you

459
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Speaker 3: could get him, he is the kind of guy that,

460
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Speaker 3: like say, you wait, like we were saying, you take

461
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Speaker 3: a mid round guy, you take Baker Mayfield or gired

462
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Speaker 3: Goff or or one of those safer quarterbacks. You take

463
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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson late, and now you're still giving yourself that

464
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Speaker 3: lottery ticket because of the tools and the legs and

465
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Speaker 3: everything he has. But like, if he doesn't hit, Okay,

466
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Speaker 3: what'd you use thirteenth round pick on him? Like it's not,

467
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Speaker 3: it's no big deal.

468
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Speaker 2: Now, that's the big part of it is that the

469
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Speaker 2: draft price is a lot friendlier. It's it's easier to

470
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Speaker 2: take the shot on Anthony Richardson and sort of scrap

471
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Speaker 2: it if it doesn't work. Last year, the way the

472
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Speaker 2: spot you had to draft him in, you needed it

473
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Speaker 2: to hit because you were passing up so many other

474
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Speaker 2: options if you drafted Anthony Richardson. So for it to

475
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Speaker 2: fall apart the way it did, yeah, it killed a

476
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Speaker 2: lot of fantasy teams. So if the draft price is right,

477
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Speaker 2: which I'm sure it will be, I couldn't make a

478
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Speaker 2: bigger case for Anthony Richardson. I also need him to

479
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Speaker 2: get his completion person I know, proclincial changes, like it's

480
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Speaker 2: not one of the hip trendy stats, but I need

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Speaker 2: him to get it up.

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Speaker 3: I do.

483
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Speaker 2: I need you to I need you to hit more

484
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Speaker 2: than fifty percent of your passes consistently.

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Speaker 1: I just do.

486
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Speaker 2: I don't need it to be great, you know what

487
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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, I don't need you don't need to

488
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Speaker 2: be Matthew Stafford with accuracy or anything, but you have

489
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Speaker 2: to be competent and he was not that last year.

490
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Speaker 2: So like there's only so because eventually then you just

491
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Speaker 2: have a running back, but a running back who's not

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Speaker 2: going to get the same number.

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Speaker 1: Of carries that you want out of somebody else?

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Speaker 3: Would you take the shot on Richardson or CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 3: two quarterbacks that are going to be tied together for

496
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Speaker 3: a while.

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Speaker 2: Probably Richardson just because you know the rushing upside is there,

498
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Speaker 2: like there's just never going to be a thing CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud does.

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Speaker 4: I think it's Anthony rich And hands down unfortunately. Yeah, yeah,

501
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Speaker 4: you kind of want Stroud to be that guy. But

502
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Speaker 4: then last year he'd take a step back and it's

503
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Speaker 4: like that was bad.

504
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Speaker 3: Yeah, see Solf very disappointing quarterback wise. I'm just realizing

505
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Speaker 3: for sure.

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Speaker 2: Also, I think the thing with CJ. Stroud is that

507
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Speaker 2: defense is so good. Part of what helped that first

508
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Speaker 2: year is that they were playing from behind on occasion

509
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Speaker 2: and he was being forced to throw the ball a ton.

510
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Speaker 1: That defense is really good, so it might not be

511
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Speaker 1: a situation where CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud's going to be throwing the ball thirty five forty

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Speaker 2: times a game consistently.

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Speaker 3: He had a strong run game too with Joe Mixon

515
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Speaker 3: as well, so.

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Speaker 2: That part too. So yeah, I think it's Richardson. I

517
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Speaker 2: don't love it, but I think it's Richardson for me,

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Speaker 2: all Right, you know that was who would have represented

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Speaker 2: by Uber Eats, where you can get the best deals

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Speaker 3: Order.

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Speaker 2: Now, all right, let's go over to the running backs here, Florida.

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Speaker 2: Letuld you start this off? Who are your top ten

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Speaker 2: running I have a feeling there's gonna be some major

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Speaker 2: differences in these lists here.

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Speaker 3: Running back was a weird one for me. I think

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Speaker 3: the top five is pretty for me at least feels

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Speaker 3: pretty set. And you could put these in whatever order

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Speaker 3: you want. But I have them Bijon one, Jamiir Gibbs,

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Speaker 3: t Saquon Barkley three, Devon h Chan four, Derrick Henry five.

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Speaker 3: Then it gets a little weird, like I have Kyrien

533
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Speaker 3: Williams six. I'm not sure even Laqwan might not even

534
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Speaker 3: agree with that. Wow, Josh Jacob seven, James Cook eight,

535
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Speaker 3: Bucky Irving nine, Breize Hall ten. Just miss was Jonathan

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Speaker 3: Taylor for me. I went back and forth hard between

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Speaker 3: Taylor and some of these other guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, Lakwan, who's your who's your top ten?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Kyron Ed six is wow? Alrighty?

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Speaker 4: Then you broke him, Flor you broke me because now

543
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Speaker 4: I feel bad Where I got him?

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Speaker 3: I mean the top three you can enter change.

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Speaker 4: Like we talked about Bijon, Saquon Gibbs, that maybe like

546
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Speaker 4: the consensus top three backs. I don't care if you

547
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Speaker 4: have Saquon at one or Bjeon at two, whatever.

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Speaker 3: Where do you have them? Right?

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Speaker 1: Where do you have them?

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Speaker 4: I got Bjon at one, Squon at two, three, I

551
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Speaker 4: got Gibbs and then Devon Ah Chan, Breise Hall, Derrick Henry,

552
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Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, and Kira Williams.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the the CMC one is interesting. I don't have

554
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Speaker 2: him in my top ten either, so you're the only

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Speaker 2: one with that. So mine is I got Bjon one,

556
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Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs two, eight, Chan three, Saquon four for me, uh,

557
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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry is at five, Josh Jacobs at six, Breese

558
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Speaker 2: Hall at seven, James Cook at eight, Jonathan Taylor is

559
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Speaker 2: at nine, and Kyron Williams is at ten.

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Speaker 3: So we can agree on the ten.

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Speaker 1: Just looking at.

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Speaker 2: This, I am I'm the only one with Jonathan Taylor

563
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Speaker 2: and that one. I really agonized over that one for

564
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Speaker 2: a while. I shuffled him around to a few different places.

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Speaker 2: I landed at nine with Taylor Lakwan, you're the only

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Speaker 2: one with CMC and Joe Mixon in your top ten.

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Speaker 3: I also, so we got we got Kyron in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so that's right. And then Florida, you're the

569
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Speaker 2: only one with Bucky Irving. He's another one that I

570
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Speaker 2: moved him around a little bit, like I first I

571
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Speaker 2: had him in and then I moved him out. Uh,

572
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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, man, like running back's going

573
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Speaker 2: to be I think wild Like, I don't know that

574
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Speaker 2: we're ever going to come to a real top ten

575
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Speaker 2: or top twelve consensus. I think amongst analysts, all of.

576
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Speaker 3: You guys felt this way. But while and look, you know,

577
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Speaker 3: I like Lakwan a lot of the time, I'm like,

578
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Speaker 3: I want a receiver in round one. But while doing

579
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Speaker 3: this list, I was like, there it might be like

580
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Speaker 3: I could easily make the case for taking Bjon or

581
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Speaker 3: Gibbs in the first round and being because to me,

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Speaker 3: I think, and I think it shows by how different

583
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Speaker 3: are six through tens are, Like after the top five,

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's kind of a crapshoot there, Like

585
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Speaker 3: it's it's a preference thing. And to me, when it's

586
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Speaker 3: a preference thing, it's because there's a drop off in talent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's it's a combination drop

588
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: off in talent and situation, right because like with Josh Jacobs, Yeah,

589
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: do the Packers go out and add a big time receiver?

590
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 2: And if so, does that impact how many times Josh

591
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: Jacobs is getting the football? Does an impact how many

592
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: targets he gets? Because he was used fairly regularly in

593
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: the passing game this past year. I mean, Brice Hall

594
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: is such a wild card for reasons that we just

595
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: talked about with the Jets, that the talent we know

596
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: is there, but is the situation going to match up?

597
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Speaker 1: I mean, Florida, he didn't even make your top ten list,

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Speaker 1: min Donor.

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Speaker 3: Taylor, Bree Hall, Oh no, Brisall is ten for me

600
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Speaker 3: of Bristol.

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Speaker 4: Okayee Josh Jacobson to make my top ten, he's like

602
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Speaker 4: right outside for me.

603
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Speaker 2: James Cook, you and I Florida or yeah, you and

604
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Speaker 2: I have him both at eight, but he's not in

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Speaker 2: your list at all.

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Speaker 4: Lakwan No, I think this year was just like a

607
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Speaker 4: prove it, Like you guys, drafted a guy. You drafted

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Speaker 4: Ray Davis. Like to me, like going into the season,

609
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Speaker 4: that was the biggest threat to James Cook. So I

610
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: think this season was just kind of like pump my chest.

611
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Speaker 4: I got this, I could be your workhorse running back.

612
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Speaker 4: But I feel like, like, I don't know, Like it

613
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Speaker 4: just doesn't look to me as like he's going to

614
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Speaker 4: be the workhorse moving on, because if you still have

615
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Speaker 4: Ty Johnson the thorn in your side, if you stay

616
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Speaker 4: still have Ray Davis in that backfield, which I think

617
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Speaker 4: he takes a leap in roles in basically getting more opportunities.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if this stays the same going into

619
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Speaker 4: next season with Joe Brady, Like I see him more

620
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Speaker 4: of a guy that's going to spread the workload throughout

621
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Speaker 4: the season. Because James Cook was a phenomenal this year.

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Speaker 4: But do I think he's going to have that same

623
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Speaker 4: exact type of season. No, I just don't see it

624
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Speaker 4: happening that way.

625
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Speaker 2: Well, Ty Johnson is a free agent. I was surprised

626
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: at Ray Davis kind of getting pushed to third on

627
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: the depth chart because I thought there was a role

628
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Speaker 2: for him this year. I drafted him in a few

629
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Speaker 2: spots especially in some Best Ball leagues, thinking that he

630
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Speaker 2: was going to have a role, and by the end

631
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Speaker 2: of the year he was the RB three on that roster.

632
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Speaker 2: So maybe if Ty Johnson moves on, which seems reasonable

633
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Speaker 2: to believe, maybe that does mean some more things for

634
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Speaker 2: Ray Davis.

635
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Speaker 3: I just was surprised at how little they used him.

636
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: I think the touchdowns come back for Cook, but this

637
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: year felt like a floor year for him yardage wise,

638
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: like he needed to play Week eighteen just to get

639
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: to a thousand rushing yards. He didn't have nearly as

640
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Speaker 3: many targets as the year before. So like, I think

641
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: the truth is somewhere in the he'll get less touchdowns

642
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: more yards, was my thinking.

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Speaker 2: All Right, yeah, this was gonna be I think this

644
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: is going to be an interesting one too. CMC is

645
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: going to be a really interesting test case. Also, I

646
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Speaker 2: thought people in there though, Yeah, I mean I could look,

647
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 2: I can make the case for both for having him

648
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Speaker 2: in there and not having him in there. You know,

649
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: I got him at at eleven right now, but it

650
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: could go either way. It really could.

651
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys know, I love Jonathan Taylor, but the

652
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Speaker 3: lack of targets is what scared Like to push Bucky

653
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Speaker 3: Irving ahead of him for me, like he'll be in

654
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Speaker 3: my top twelve Taylor, but his last three games he

655
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Speaker 3: ran for five hundred and twenty yards and six touchdowns.

656
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Speaker 3: Like prior to that three game stretch, it was kind

657
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: of a disappointing year for Jonathan Taylor.

658
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that's also I think the Anthony Richardson

659
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: factor too.

660
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: I have to say, just that factor of him out

661
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: him out and then you don't really have a consistent

662
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 4: offense that you can He's not.

663
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: Helping that ball off though, I'll tell you that. Yeah.

664
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: Also, you know, is he going to start taking is

665
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: he going to take goal line carries away?

666
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: Right?

667
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: I mean does he end up eating into the upside.

668
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: Which I think is ridiculous.

669
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: Like when you have a back like Johnathan Taylor, you don't,

670
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 4: like I understand the Anthony rich and he can get

671
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: the ball in on the goal line as well, but

672
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: you have a running back like Jonathan Taylor just to

673
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 4: be there.

674
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: I just don't get why.

675
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: Barkley right, And like I say this with Saquan having

676
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: thirteen rushing touchdowns but Jalen Hurts having was it fourteen

677
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns this year?

678
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: Is unstoppable. It's almost automatic at this point. So I

679
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: get that in a sense, they have a they have

680
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 4: a special move we would like to call a motal Kombat.

681
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: That's just it's right.

682
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think running back, I think there's going to

683
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: be a really shifting position. Uh you know, and we'll

684
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: do these several times throughout the offseason.

685
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: My way, see is I'm the Kiren guy.

686
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: You are the Kiren guy. You're the Kiren guy.

687
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: Le He's explained that one man. That's exciting to me.

688
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: He was the RB seven this year despite missing a game.

689
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: He was the RB two in points per game last season. Uh, Sean, Like,

690
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: we were all worried about Blake Korum, but Sean McVay

691
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: was basically like, no, it's it's the Kien Williams Show.

692
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: And to me, anytime Sean McVay has had a running

693
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: back like this he could trust. It's really Kyraene and

694
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: Todd Gurley. He doesn't really use a second running back

695
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: as much. He tends to feed Kyen's gonna get it

696
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: in the passing game. He's gonna get it on the ground.

697
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: There's no concern about him his quarterbacks stealing those those

698
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 3: goal line touches or anything like that. So I just

699
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: feel like he's super after the Top five. To me,

700
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: he felt like the best bet of upside and safety

701
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: combined into one.

702
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: All right, all right, yeah, I look, it's hard to

703
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: argue again.

704
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: So I still think Blake Koram's gonna get a role

705
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: in this offense. But I was wrong last I was

706
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: wrong last year. We'll see how it happens.

707
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: We sawid pick up after you know, the Saints game,

708
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: Like we saw a little bit involvement, and then you know,

709
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: things slowed down and then obviously he gets hurt before

710
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: the playoffs. Like, I honestly think he had a role

711
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 4: in the playoffs to be utilized a lot more than

712
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 4: he was in the beginning of the season. Like it

713
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 4: was more so of like taking the load off of Kirn,

714
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: which needed to happen, and it was just more so

715
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: of like McVeigh realizing like, oh wow, well I can

716
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: run a one two punch, but it was cut short

717
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: due to him getting hurt.

718
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, those sirens you heard in the background with the

719
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: fire department coming for Florido's hot take on how it.

720
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 3: Was that was actually mine in here. Top ten Hottest

721
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: Joe mixed in top ten.

722
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he played phenomenal if he didn't get hurt, and

723
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 4: then obviously they're going to have to address that old line.

724
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: I think Joe Mixon be able to produce behind bad

725
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 4: old lines his entire career. Puts that RB two standbor

726
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: on him with RB one upside, like you look at

727
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: him week to week.

728
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: I feel like, if.

729
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: They address the issues that they have in Houston on

730
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 4: that line, why can't Joe Mixon be a bigger threat

731
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: for fantasy you know, for running backs? He's I feel

732
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: like I have him too low.

733
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 1: Wow, you got nine and that's too low. I won

734
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: that is.

735
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: That's what the fire department's coming after for sure. For sure.

736
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: All right, Befy Beefy Beefy first block can take a

737
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: quick break, come back. We'll dive into the wide receivers

738
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: and the tight ends. That's next on the NFL Fantasy

739
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: Football Podcast, diving into our way too early rankings here

740
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: in mid February, we've done quarterbacks and running backs. Time

741
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: to get into wide receivers and tight ends. Wide receiver

742
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: I think's gonna be interesting. I think we're gonna have

743
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: a lot of the same names. Maybe when you get

744
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: down to the bottom of the top ten. It shuffles

745
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: a little bit, but I'll start with my list here.

746
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: I feel like Jamar Chase is going to be the

747
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: undisputed number one. I'm going to that. I'm going Justin

748
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: Jefferson at two. CD Lamb is my number three wide receiver,

749
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: followed by Puka Nakua at four, Amonra Saint Brown, Arsba

750
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: gets the number five spot. I'm going Scary Terry at

751
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: number six. Malik Neighbors is my number seven wide receiver,

752
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: followed by Nico Collins, Drake London at nine, and Jackson

753
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba. Actually Ryan's rounds out my top ten.

754
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like, you know, I don't know,

755
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong. I'm curious to see what you guys have. Lakwan,

756
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: what is your your top ten?

757
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: There?

758
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: So I think we consent to say Jamar Chase at

759
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: one like that, that that's that's that's a given. But

760
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: at Pooka, Justin Jefferson, Malik Neighbors and Monron Taint Brown,

761
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 4: Drake London, Cede Lamb, Brian Thomas Junior, aj Brown and

762
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: then Nico Collins at ten.

763
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: Floria, what is your top ten?

764
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: Agreed? With Lakwan and you Marcus Jamar Chase at one.

765
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 3: I actually agree with LaQuan. I have Pooka Nakua at two,

766
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson at three, Ced Lamb at four, Oursba at five,

767
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: Nico Collins six, Malik Neighbors seven, AJ Brown eight, Terry

768
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: McLaurin nine, Brian Thomas Junior ten. But it's really a

769
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: top twelve for me because Drake London and Lad McConkie

770
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: I really wanted to fit into his top twelve.

771
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was sort of toying with where to

772
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: put Ladd McConkie in this whole thing. So I guess

773
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: I'm the low man on Pooka here on this one

774
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: because I've got him at four. I'm also the high

775
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: man on CD Lamb once CD at seven seven.

776
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's just me assuming that they bring in

777
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: help and then the running game be a little bit

778
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: more efficient, and I don't think it will be that

779
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 4: high of a one hundred and fifty, you know, targets

780
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: going his way. I think we're gonna get more of

781
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: a balanced Cowboys offense. So it's not that you know

782
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 4: he's going to take a down year like I could

783
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 4: easily put him in front of Drake London or even

784
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: the mom round Saint Brown being basically with their change

785
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: is going on. You have Michael Pennix, He's still somewhat

786
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: you know, fresh behind the ears. I mean, you can

787
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: have your concerns there, but he looked amazing with his

788
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 4: opportunities a very small sample. But Drake London was still

789
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 4: a strong fantasy option. And then you look at my

790
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: mom right to say Brown. Obviously, Ben Johnson not there.

791
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: You got to depend on Jared Gooth to keep and

792
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: retain the information that he had from Ben Johnson to

793
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 4: play at a high level. But you know, those three,

794
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 4: I can I was messing around with those three Amon Rod,

795
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: Drake London and CD Lamb because I feel like they

796
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 4: all have somewhat situations going on for them. So I'm

797
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 4: not mad at putting CD at five, you know, like,

798
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 4: but I just feel like with those three guys, it's

799
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: just interchangeable for me.

800
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: I think I talked myself out of Brian Thomas Junior.

801
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: You know, remember at the end of the regular season,

802
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: I was like, Brian Thomas, he was the first round pick,

803
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: and then like two weeks later, I'm like, nah, yeah, yeah,

804
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: that's all these drinkings, and I think I sucked myself

805
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: out of him in the top ten. I'm not sure

806
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: where I would slot him just yet. I mean, I

807
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: think he's in my top fifteen for sure. I just

808
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: worry about now, you know what happens when everybody's healthy,

809
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 2: right when Christian Kirk is back, whenever Ingram is back.

810
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm surprised Lakuan that you've got him in your top ten,

811
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 2: knowing how you feel about Trevor Lawrence.

812
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

813
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I do feel like this was a

814
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: little bit of a spicy for me because instead of

815
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 4: you know, having Brian Thomas Junior a A, I had Terry mclauren.

816
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 4: But then you talked about earlier in the pod about

817
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 4: defenses adsin the Jayden Daniels and also I think they

818
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 4: bring in some help, you know, maybe a T. Higgins

819
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 4: slides and who knows. But I just definitely think, you know,

820
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: Terry mclaarnin in my top ten.

821
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: He just didn't make it, but he was right outside

822
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: of it, all right.

823
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: We all have Nico Collins sort of in the back

824
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: half of our top tens or Florida. You're the highest

825
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: on him. At six. I've got him at eight, You've

826
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: got him at ten. Lakwan, I'm the only one with

827
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: JSN in my top ten. Maybe I'm a little too

828
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: gassed up. I don't know, you know, I don't.

829
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 3: Think it is the wide receiver one.

830
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 4: He's the wide receiver and literally outside my top ten,

831
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 4: like I missed on Lad and then JSN. Those are

832
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: the two that I was like fumbling, like if I'm

833
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: going to do a top fifteen, top twenty list, like

834
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: they're obviously a top fifteen locks.

835
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it sounds like the back half of the

836
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: top ten is gonna be a little bit scattered.

837
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: So that's like what early second round where you can

838
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 4: really play around with some of these guys late first

839
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 4: like yeah, yeah.

840
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: And obviously free agency in the draft are gonna have

841
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: a big impact, huge.

842
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 3: For where some of these guys go. It's why again,

843
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: I came away from this being like I might take

844
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: a running back in the first round and then like

845
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 3: last year, was going wide receiver running back in like

846
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: two or three, and then a bunch of receivers, like

847
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: just get your running back early because we don't love

848
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 3: anyone after the top like four or five. But I

849
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: loved a lot of these back end Like if I

850
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: could get a Lad McConkie in round two, or Drake

851
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 3: London or Brian Thomas, Terry McLaurin, like, I feel much

852
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: better about those players in round two than I do

853
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: the running backs that are in round two.

854
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: I think I'm just forfeiting my first round pick. I

855
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: just seriously, I'll just start in round two because it's

856
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, I do like some of these guys,

857
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: but they all even you know, even the Bijon's and

858
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: the Jamiir Gibbs's and the a chance, they make me

859
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: still a little bit nervous, right, And I'm you know, look,

860
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: if I'm at the top, if I'm at the top

861
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: of the draft order, sure I'll take Jamar or Justin

862
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: Jefferson for sure.

863
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: Mid to late part of the first round.

864
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: Like, I just the the draft capital you're spending for

865
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: some of these guys that come with uncertainty, And mind you,

866
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: it's uncertainty in February, right that we're yeah, you know,

867
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: we're sure it's gonna work out by the time we

868
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: get to August, but for now it makes me kind

869
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: of scared.

870
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 3: And with the draft coming up.

871
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 4: There's some wide receivers that could shake some of this

872
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: up man, and especially at running back as well. I

873
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 4: mean there's some guys that could get into some roles

874
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: of being a wide receiver one or even a running

875
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 4: back one that can knock up and mess up this

876
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: back into the top ten, top twelve guys that we

877
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 4: got right now.

878
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: Just saying you actually bout you by the way mentioning

879
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: the draft. I'm because when we talked about doing this

880
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: show just between us, you asked about rookies Lakwan and

881
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: you mentioned Ashton Johnty. I did you did you give

882
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: him serious consideration to your top ten?

883
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: I did?

884
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: But then you look at the draft, like what the

885
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: order is now? And you know these teams they tend

886
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 4: to trade as soon as they get closer to April.

887
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 4: I don't know where to put him, honestly, because like

888
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 4: I want to put him in Jacksonville, but then that

889
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 4: would mean Travis etn Tank Bixby need to move. But

890
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 4: then there's a scenario where you know, I have I

891
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 4: have this list of running backs and you know Prospect

892
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: and genty. It kind of fits in between those picks

893
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 4: of like five and ten. What the set order is

894
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 4: like I could see him end up somewhere in like

895
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 4: New Orleans at nine.

896
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 3: Nine.

897
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 4: I could see him end up with the Raiders maybe

898
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: because that's just how talented he is, and like these

899
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 4: are teams that need young guys like that, And then

900
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: he would shoot up into my rankings. Like you guys

901
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 4: got Bucky Irvin at nine like Floorio, Like I kind

902
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 4: of would move Bucky back and put Gent there at nine,

903
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 4: you know, ahead.

904
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: Of your Briest Hall.

905
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, because like he's one of those talents

906
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 4: that you look at that he could shake things up

907
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: in year one.

908
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he really is that good.

909
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, again, we always say this

910
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: landing spot is obviously going to mean a lot, but

911
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: I think I think a guy that talented, who was

912
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: that productive in college, regardless of where he lands, they are.

913
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 3: Going to create a role for him.

914
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I don't think that's that.

915
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: Might be a second round pick. He might be a

916
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: second round pick going first if he goes through I

917
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: mean spot, which we just talked about not having a

918
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: first round pick for running back. I mean where would

919
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: you put him? Would you put him like at It

920
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 3: depends on so like I could see him going second

921
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: round because everyone loves rookies, especially.

922
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: Nowadays the community.

923
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: But you're like an automatic first round pick when we

924
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 4: come to like top prospects.

925
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: It kind of reminds me like when Zeke fell to

926
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. It was like, all right, he's a top

927
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 3: five pick now because of where he fell. Like it.

928
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: So landing spot is going to greatly determine where. But

929
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: if he there's a couple of spots that if he

930
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: falls to I I could easily see the fantasy community

931
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: hyping him up to be a first round pick.

932
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: Well, the early tea leaves suggest he could fall to

933
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. And does that does that excite anybody?

934
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, every single touch up for grabs in Dallas.

935
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: All right, all right, p Rico daubtell that happened?

936
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: All right?

937
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: There it is.

938
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to get back on the running backs,

939
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: but you've mentioning rookies. Lakwan kind of brought that back

940
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: in my head after a conversation.

941
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: There's some rookie wide receivers that we could dive into

942
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: later later on, but there's just some guys that they

943
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: could definitely shake up some of these rakings.

944
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: Oh trust, I mean maybe not on this show, for sure,

945
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: but we will dive into rookies certainly in depth as

946
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: we get closer to the draft, for sure. All right,

947
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: let's get the tight ends. This is gonna be wild.

948
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 3: About to say these are going to be so different.

949
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: This is gonna be absolutely wild.

950
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 2: It's all gonna be different, and we're all gonna be like, yeah,

951
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: sure find that. So Laquon, I will, I will give

952
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: you the honors to go first with your top ten.

953
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 2: All right, there's only two guys.

954
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: Brock Bowers at one, Trey McBride interchangeable, don't care about

955
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 4: the order, George Kittle, John new Smith makes a return.

956
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: Top five, Sam mc.

957
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 4: Evan Ingram, Mark Andrews, Cole Komet, David Nijoku, and t J.

958
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: Hockinson at ten.

959
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, all right, Florio, who you got?

960
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: It's definitely different. Bron Bowers is one for me, Trey

961
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 3: McBride to Kittle three, Sam Laporta four, Mark Andrews five,

962
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: Hockinson six, and Joku seven. This one obviously changes if

963
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: he retires, but I still put Travis Kelce at eight,

964
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: just on the off chance that he does play. Evan

965
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: Ingram nine, Donkin k ten, I had John new Smith

966
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: at eleven because I have a hard time buying into

967
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: a late late career breakout. So I'm sure we'll talk

968
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: about that one.

969
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: Oh, we'll talking about that also, Donkin Kate.

970
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: I mean you were ready to shoot him out of

971
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: a cannon into the middle of the Pacific Ocean a

972
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: few weeks ago.

973
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: But you know, he's still tied to a great quarterback,

974
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: a good offense, and one that as of now does

975
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 3: not have any ball dominant receivers, so he's going to

976
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: be even when he returned after injury. Last year, it

977
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: was him and Shaki were the top two targets. So

978
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: I'm willing to at a cheaper than ever cost. I'm

979
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: willing to roll the dice again, all right.

980
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: I mean, because you're you're gonna put him on a

981
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: sinking ship in the middle of Lake Erie.

982
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: After the playoffs, so uh, you know things have improved.

983
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: I guess a little bit.

984
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: For me, I'm gonna go because I said a few

985
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 2: weeks ago that trade McBride, he was my early flag

986
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: plan for the tight end once on making him the

987
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 2: tight end one here, followed by brock Bauers. Because it's

988
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: either one of those two guys, I'll go Kittle three,

989
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: Sam Laporta at four. I'm going t J. Hawkinson at

990
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: at five. Wow, I'm putting Kelsey at six, obviously subject

991
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: to change if he decides he's not playing anymore. Mark

992
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: Andrews at seven. I got John hu at eight, Evan

993
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: Ingram at nine. I can't go Pat Fryarmouth at ten.

994
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, at that point, it was

995
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: just kind of like, I don't know. I just I

996
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 2: gotta find a name to slide in there. Lakwan, are

997
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: you assuming that Travis Kelsey's retired or are.

998
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 4: You just out Oh? Yeah, that super Bowl performance was bad?

999
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 4: Like I honestly think, you know, it's time to hang

1000
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 4: it up. Like, I mean, you got the girl, you

1001
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 4: got many rings, It's like you got the podcast, you're

1002
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 4: doing TV shows, you're in movies, like you already like

1003
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 4: played your hand of Like, yeah, it's time to hang

1004
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 4: it up. Like I don't see Travis Kelsey performing at

1005
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 4: a high level next season because it's just the way

1006
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 4: the back end of this season looked. It just looked

1007
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: like he just wasn't that guy anymore. So Yeah, he's gone, all.

1008
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: Right, Try to see any other differences. I mean, our

1009
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: top threes are all the same, even if the names

1010
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 2: are maybe a little bit flip flopped.

1011
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: Yea, we got Laporter.

1012
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: We all have Laport in the top five, so I

1013
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: think we're all sort of confident in some sort of

1014
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 2: rebound for laporta. Evan Ingram makes all of our lists.

1015
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews makes all of our lists. It's late though, right,

1016
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: it's you know, for you Lakwan's it's Comet and Joku.

1017
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I know how you feel about t J. Hawkinson,

1018
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: So I'm actually glad he major top ten barely it

1019
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: was gonna be him or Dalton Kinkaid.

1020
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll flag plan on t J. Hawkinson. I think

1021
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a lot of him this year.

1022
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 4: He he just wasn't making a huge impact for me

1023
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 4: to be like I have start him this week.

1024
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: He just came back for like major knee.

1025
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 3: Injury exactly that. Yeah, torn acl is always the year

1026
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: you get back in your question mark the question mark

1027
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 3: at quarterback next season, we still don't know. It's February.

1028
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 3: It could change.

1029
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be JJ McCarthy.

1030
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: I will be floored. I will give you all of

1031
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 2: the change in my pocket right now. If it's not McCarthy, seriously,

1032
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: I have no change in my pocket. So that's all

1033
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: you would get is win. But I would I would

1034
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: be absolutely stunned if it's not JJ McCarthy next.

1035
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 3: Year, nine hundred yards each of his three seasons prior

1036
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: to last year, this past twenty twenty four, We're you

1037
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: only play ten games.

1038
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: Cole Commit's an interesting one. I don't know.

1039
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: I still just I still think there are too many miles. Look,

1040
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: I mean again, I feel like all these names you

1041
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: can make a change four against. I just think there's

1042
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: still too many miles to feed in Chicago.

1043
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't think we've seen him utilize properly.

1044
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: Like there's still unlocked potential there for him to be

1045
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: a fantasy asset. I just I just feel like he

1046
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 4: should be mentioned somewhat in that top ten.

1047
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1048
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm also still a little bit man, And it's not

1049
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: Cole Comet's fault, but I'm still upset from a couple

1050
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: of seasons ago, when you know I kept touting him. Yeah,

1051
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: it's like all the metrics are great, he's running a

1052
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: ton of routes, he's getting targeted a certain amount, and

1053
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: like I would say all these things and then Jimmy

1054
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: Grahm would show up and catch a touchdown, and it's

1055
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: just made it hard for me to keep them in

1056
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: the case.

1057
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's not his fault.

1058
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: He did everything that you would want from him, and

1059
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: then Jimmy Grahm would show up and catch the touchdown.

1060
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: He could block, he could run round, so he could

1061
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: be a red zone threat. We've seen it.

1062
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 4: All that he can do is just being deployed at

1063
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: the right times that they didn't really have, you know,

1064
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 4: a structured.

1065
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 3: Staff that know how to just make him a focal point.

1066
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: But it is what it is.

1067
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, now now we have Ben Johnson there hopefully to

1068
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: save the day, so we'll sort of see how that goes.

1069
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: My one tightand request is get any quarterback besides Deshaun

1070
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 3: Watson throwing the ball to day it in Joku and

1071
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: he yes, like he's amazing. I think he is one

1072
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 3: of the best titands in football. You just can't play

1073
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: with Deshaun Watson.

1074
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: Well, and I think you're your fears won't be so

1075
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: fearful this year because.

1076
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: I look, I.

1077
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: Don't expect to see Deshaun Watson quarterbacking the Cleveland Browns this.

1078
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 3: Year two Achilles Stairs, He's he's not.

1079
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't I do not. I do not expect to

1080
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: see that happen. Yeah, Titan is gonna be interesting. I

1081
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 2: feel like for a lot of people, your top four

1082
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: or five are going to be kind of set after that.

1083
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: Just throw a whole bunch of names up in the

1084
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: air and see where they land. And also we'll see

1085
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: if number eighty seven in Kansas City decides to come

1086
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: back for at least one more, if he decides to

1087
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: hang him up and hang in a full time podcaster

1088
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: slash lover boy. So we'll see, take a quick break,

1089
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: come back, talk about some other nonsense.

1090
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: There's a new music video that just dropped. We'll talk

1091
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: about that some more things.

1092
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 2: No, no, but maybe perhaps on park quality wise, we'll see.

1093
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: I'll come up with that and some more on the

1094
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: NFL Fantasy Football Show. All right, So just a little

1095
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: bit of you know, our cheat sheet type stuff here

1096
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 2: at the end of the show.

1097
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 1: I had I think some stuff thrown in there.

1098
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: The new Captain America movie comes out on Friday, which

1099
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: nothing says romance like Anthony Mackie beating up on a

1100
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: giant angry Harrison Ford. Harrison Ford's in everything. He is

1101
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: in everything, which is wild. The dude's like eighty. I

1102
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 2: guess he's just trying to you know.

1103
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: Him and Robert de Niro are trying to see who

1104
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: can make more movies in their eighties.

1105
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: Yues so.

1106
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: Apata. Yeah, they have to have a text group where

1107
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 3: like they have an internal contest or something like that.

1108
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: Just movies, how about you.

1109
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: As long as Harrison Ford is not flying himself to

1110
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: whatever destination he's going to, that's all today. But the

1111
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 2: thing that I really talking about, because it actually dropped

1112
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: just before we started recording this show, at least I

1113
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: saw it just before we started recording this show, Shudeur

1114
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: Sanders has put out a music video.

1115
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: Wow, he's got a rap video.

1116
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 2: It's a lot of you know, shots of him walking

1117
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: through crowds on football fields.

1118
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: The music.

1119
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 2: I will say, it's cool. I'm kind of feeling it

1120
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: should do or do not quit your day job to.

1121
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: Become a rap.

1122
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: Stay focused.

1123
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 4: Man has worked for any football player dropping a music

1124
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 4: video during draft time or even when you're an NFL player,

1125
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 4: It has never ever worked out for them.

1126
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: I don't I don't see the need to do this.

1127
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1128
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: I mean it sort of seems to fit with the

1129
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: the trajectory. I mean, look, obviously Shu was very good

1130
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: at Jackson State. They all make the move to Colorado,

1131
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: Dion comes to Colorado, Shauduur, Travis Hunter come with him

1132
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: from Jackson State. Uh, and it really has been on

1133
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 2: top of what he's done on the field, it has

1134
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: been very much about branding and marketing, right from the

1135
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: rolexes to the commercials. So dropping a music video just

1136
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: seems to fit it kind of tracks.

1137
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: I guess I never care when Like, to me, all

1138
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: of these players who make music and music videos and stuff,

1139
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 3: all it is to me is entertainment and stuff for

1140
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: us to talk about in the off season on the pod.

1141
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 3: Like I don't ever actually care. But and I personally

1142
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: do not care at all that he did this. But

1143
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 3: my one thinking to la Quwan's point is kind of

1144
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: like you're about to go through the most grueling interview

1145
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: process of your life. I just don't think you want

1146
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 3: to give fuel to these teams to question your dedication

1147
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 3: or why you're doing this or anything. Like if he

1148
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: did this after he got drafted and it was like

1149
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: a celebration I'd be like cool, like this guy's going

1150
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 3: to be a face of a franchise, But right now,

1151
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 3: I just don't want to This is something I don't

1152
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: want to hear about for two months leading into the draft.

1153
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 3: You know exactly it is.

1154
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: It is definitely fuel for anonymous scout, Like anonymous scout

1155
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: is going to have a field day with something like this,

1156
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: because I'm I'm sort of with you, Floria, like I'm

1157
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 2: of the opinion that like these guys don't they don't

1158
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 2: spend all day every day studying the playbook or working

1159
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: like then just you well you can't, right, it's just

1160
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: not it's not healthy. It's not physically possible. So like

1161
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 2: whatever you found some time and just watching this thing,

1162
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 2: it seems like there are clips that have been shot

1163
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: throughout the year, right, this doesn't seem like he just

1164
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: randomly took two weeks to do a music video. Like

1165
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 2: this seems like stuff that he's probably been shooting this

1166
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: video for like six months.

1167
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,959
Speaker 4: It's like you've been doing this for the last couple

1168
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,959
Speaker 4: of months. Like no, so you're not jello ball, Like no,

1169
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: that's a hit, Like this not a hit?

1170
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: It so that that was My next question is like, Okay,

1171
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: who out there is actually like if they stop playing ball,

1172
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: like you'd be like I would buy this album or

1173
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: I would stream this album because nobody actually buys albums

1174
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: any way, right Like now I'm a hard copye guy?

1175
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: Are you okay? Good for you? No, I'm done with that.

1176
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 2: But I mean, like so jello ball right like yeah,

1177
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: because we were trying to figureut before the show, like

1178
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: who were at because athletes being rappers is not a

1179
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: new thing, Like who's an athlete that's an actually legitimately

1180
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: good rapper?

1181
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: And like Dame Lillard was the first one that came to.

1182
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 3: Mind, nashwall players do it better?

1183
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: Hmmm, I always say saying for my guy, I I

1184
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: I himmed In had because I remember there was an

1185
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: album that came out. This is like back in the

1186
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: late nineteen hundreds when I was still a college student,

1187
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: an album called b Ball's Best Kept Secret, And like

1188
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: we used to mostly you had a fun Like I

1189
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: had a radio show in college where we played music.

1190
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 2: We would just play a track from this album every

1191
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: so often. Because it was a bunch of current NBA players.

1192
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: They did a rap album.

1193
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: Oh it's bad, I remember this now.

1194
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were some that were really bad. Jason Kidd

1195
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: was on the album. His song was awful. His song

1196
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: was awful. It's I've released in November of ninety four.

1197
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: It's called B Ball's the Best Kept Secret. Cedric Sabalos,

1198
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: who I think was a Phoenix, played for the Lakers.

1199
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: He might have been with the Phoenix Suns at the time.

1200
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: He had a couple songs because he actually tried to.

1201
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: Have a rap career. They were okay.

1202
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: Malik Seely, who was like a good role player, his

1203
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 2: was I mean, there's none of them were great. Shaq

1204
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: had a song on there that was okay. It was

1205
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: just like but it was just sort of like a

1206
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: novelty at the time, like all these guys and you

1207
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: listen to you're like, oh no, no, please keep playing

1208
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: Basketball Athlete Rapper.

1209
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 4: I would have broke my CD player if that even

1210
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 4: entered it.

1211
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: The best Athlete.

1212
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 3: Rapper, It's a one hit wonder. But g Regg from

1213
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 3: the Seventh Floor the Greatest Ever played out.

1214
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: The journey of Greg Olsen from being g Rag on

1215
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 2: the Seventh Floor Crew to being a Walter Payton Man

1216
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: of the Year should be studied.

1217
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 3: Incredible. We need a documentary and with his verse, we need.

1218
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: We need a thirty for thirty on the journey from

1219
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: the seventh floor to the w P M O Y.

1220
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: That's what we need on g.

1221
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: I've ever heard an athlete have but when that we cannot,

1222
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: We cannot repeat on this show because it is family.

1223
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 3: You want to check it out. Make sure you're like alone,

1224
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: you're not at work, like it's.

1225
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's uh it's love.

1226
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1227
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking to see if be Ball's best kept

1228
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: secret is on.

1229
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 4: I'm looking at Jason Kidd and the first song that

1230
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 4: comes up, what the Kid Dido?

1231
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 3: And Yeah, I'm not going to listen to this this list.

1232
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean you should just because.

1233
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,479
Speaker 3: What the kid did? No? Why?

1234
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a thing. I'm sure it's probably like

1235
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: floating around on.

1236
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 3: YouTube if you want to really truly listen to it,

1237
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure there it is.

1238
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: Uh so yeah, so you want to check out Shore

1239
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: Sanders music video, which is where this whole conversation started.

1240
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: It's it's floating around the interwebs. You could take a

1241
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: look and decide for yourself. It's if it's good or not.

1242
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: And we'll see what anonymous scout has to.

1243
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 3: Say about it. As he goes through the draft process.

1244
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: Anonymous Scout hates everything. Anonymous Scout really does hate everything.

1245
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm waiting to see, Like who Anonymous Scout says has

1246
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 2: like skinny knees or skinny knees that was That was

1247
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: the knock on Teddy Bridgewater that he has skinny knees.

1248
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: I feel like the Colorado guys are going to be

1249
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 3: the target of an like last year was Caleb. It's

1250
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: going to be the Colorado everyone loves to tear down

1251
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: the hype guys, you know.

1252
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I think, well, I think after

1253
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: that first year, we got oversaturated with with Colorado, with

1254
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: Coach Prime and she and all this stuff was just

1255
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: and so I think America kind of got annoyed with them,

1256
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: and so I think I'm wondering if that comes back

1257
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: again this off season.

1258
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago, people were saying that he's

1259
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 3: not an NFL quarterback, and now he's in the running

1260
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: to go first overall. So I don't really care what

1261
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 3: Anonymous Scout has to say.

1262
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's definitely an NFL quarterback.

1263
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: I mean, we can debate what his ceiling is, but

1264
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,959
Speaker 2: he's definitely good enough to be an NFL quarterback, don't.

1265
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: I don't doubt that at all for sure. So I'm

1266
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: sure this is not the last we will talk about

1267
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: Shudeur Sanders.

1268
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: In the next couple of home I hope. Yeah.

1269
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're gonna talk about his rap

1270
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: career anymore, but we will certainly talk about him on

1271
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,479
Speaker 2: the field for sure over the next couple of months.

1272
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, that's for this edition of the

1273
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy, say Lfie, do good

1274
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: and live well. Enjoy the weekend, everybody. We will talk

1275
00:59:47,520 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: to you again next week. Wo I'll count help, Bob,

1276
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: I'll count help Yah.