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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid Verbo.

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Speaker 2: I'll that for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for a day

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Speaker 2: at the State.

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Woo whoo?

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Speaker 1: And them and Tie, welcome back to the solid Urbo.

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Speaker 1: Boys or girls. My name is ty Hildenbry and that

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Speaker 1: guy over there, Dan Ryvenstein, Chicago answer, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I've been better physically but emotionally, spiritually, enthusiastically. Now that

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Speaker 2: we've crossed the fifty of the season, Tye, right, we're

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Speaker 2: through week eight. We've got what a huge Halloween next week,

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Speaker 2: which we'll get to eventually, and then just a November

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Speaker 2: to remember before December to remember. Tie. So I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling really, really good, And a lot of that

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Speaker 2: has to do with the fact that I didn't attend

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Speaker 2: and am not emotionally connected to the Pennsylvania State University.

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Speaker 1: Oh Man, we got inundated with calls. Dylan, our guy

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Speaker 1: who cuts reverbs for us and as an integral member

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Speaker 1: calls came in about penn State and Illinois, which is no,

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Speaker 1: great surprise. Look, there's a lot to unpack with that

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Speaker 1: Penn State Illinois game, with the Illinois upset victory over

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Speaker 1: Penn State in state college.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So we're going to get into all that and

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Speaker 1: much much more. You know, each week brings its own

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Speaker 1: Illinois Penn State game, there wasn't a whole lot in

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Speaker 1: the way of true upsets. Right the upset ceiling has

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Speaker 1: definitely been higher in other weeks so far as college

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Speaker 1: football season. But there's nuance. Everything's in shades of gray.

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Speaker 1: There's Caleb Williams stealing the ball on a fourth and

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Speaker 1: great and so you have little things like that. You

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Speaker 1: opening the doors, tweeting out saying come on down, folks,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna let everybody in the stadium, like this is

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Speaker 1: college football. This is what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if there were any specific emotional takeaway

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Speaker 2: phrase or thought. It's a lot of these matchups gave

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Speaker 2: thing that I really haven't seen. Like I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: Kansas not punted until the fourth quarter. I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: drop seventy on a totally decent team.

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Speaker 1: That's new.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen like Miami's third string quarterback have an

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Speaker 2: So that that would be my all encompassing worked for

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Speaker 1: now that we've got a scoreboard, and as you said earlier,

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Speaker 1: Here are your Week eight reverbs, enjoy. I just want

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Speaker 1: to take a minute to recognize your current leaders of

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Speaker 1: the State of Utah. Your b Yu cougars rise and

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Speaker 1: shout goko.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 4: This is Seth calling from Denver, dann Ky.

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Speaker 5: This is Tyler calling from central Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: Hey, this is often from Columbus, Ohio, yas from the UK.

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Speaker 3: This is Dan in Minneapolis and my pre New Boilermakers

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Speaker 4: That's four years.

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Speaker 6: Of school, nineteen years of work, five.

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Speaker 1: Job fixed moves.

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Speaker 1: So that's fun. Now.

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Speaker 6: I've never had crock potted Tennessee volunteer before.

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Speaker 3: But I have to imagine it takes a little smoking.

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Speaker 1: Only in match can you blow out eighteen point leads

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Speaker 3: A game, nor Name just beats Southerntel, which means that

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Speaker 3: my wife and I can celebrate our one year anniversary

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Speaker 3: in peace Daughters.

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Speaker 4: Death, Texas.

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Speaker 5: I would state in October, I'm watching this Oregon UCLA

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Speaker 3: For the benefit of my mental health and wellbeing, I

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Speaker 3: Hater it, but that's still had to put on a show.

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Speaker 4: Go gud I was swirming and swimming all game.

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Speaker 3: And Okayla Williams literally.

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Speaker 5: the Jayhawks, Zomer sooner. I guess I'm just calling to

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Speaker 3: Statue outside of the stadium so that you.

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Speaker 6: Come with him, because I'm starting to wonder if it's

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Speaker 6: time for Gary Patterson to go Dan.

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Speaker 4: Guy, Sean and Laane Stadium.

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Speaker 6: Well, okay, I've just lost the Syracuse and the chances

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Speaker 1: Fire plant Day, run it down, Go Hocky.

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Speaker 3: So somewhere in those favorite land of suns, shine bright.

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Speaker 6: The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,

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Speaker 3: Some ore children's shouts, but there is no Joriam Blacksburg

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Speaker 3: Mighty has a ten million dollars buyouts.

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Speaker 6: Man, wake just beat the entire United States Army. It's

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Speaker 6: just like Red Dawn, except with possessed church members instead

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Speaker 4: Stalk to your kids.

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Speaker 6: I'm just calling you to say that these new overtime

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Speaker 6: caliber team deserves at least ten overtimes to be Illinois.

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Speaker 1: Big Dead football is back, Baby, who's the Big nine?

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Speaker 4: Don't you to talk to my kids?

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Speaker 6: It's about hiring James Franklin's worst game ever. Seventeen years

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Speaker 6: to the day after six to four, Penn State puts.

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Speaker 1: Up another contender for the worst football game ever, and I.

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Speaker 5: Happen to stand through all four and a half.

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Speaker 1: Hours of it. Ty, I can feel your paints.

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Speaker 4: If you ever wondered what's a crappy version of.

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Speaker 3: Twenty nineteen LSU Texas A and M multiple overtime classic

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Speaker 3: was it's Illinois versus Penn State twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 4: I'm not an Illinois fan, but I figured it on

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Speaker 1: My goodness going on.

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Speaker 5: I'm not An overtime game that ends with or total

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Speaker 5: marginall return. That's how you know the Big ten is

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Speaker 2: Honestly, Penn State should have lost automatically after having to

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Speaker 1: It's been six overtime since my last phone call in

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Speaker 4: Penn State and Illinois are on their ninth overtime because

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Speaker 4: neither team can make a three yard play. This is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you and me both, buddy. Uh great batch of

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Speaker 1: reverbs again every weekend. Drop the number down four to

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Speaker 1: oh eight. Verbal one. Yeah, you call in, you leave

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Speaker 1: us a voice message, You let us know what's on

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Speaker 1: That's new. It feels different, And then you look at

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Speaker 1: the Penn State score And I've talked about this feeling

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Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes those apps spaz out and you're like, spas,

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I pulled down like a thousand

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Speaker 1: So I tried to stream it in a public park.

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Speaker 1: It didn't really work that well, but I.

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Speaker 2: Did get to see the you're talking to Penn State

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Speaker 1: Sort of both. Yeah. I did get to see the ending,

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Speaker 1: the conclusion of this game, the merciful conclusion to this

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Speaker 1: Penn State game. Should we just start there? Since that

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Speaker 2: For well, you're burying the lead, I should say I

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Speaker 2: should point out that Illinois with this win keeps its

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Speaker 2: drive to six alive four games left. They need three wins, right,

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Speaker 2: they're three and five, And what are they doing? Ty,

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Speaker 2: They're building, They're building. Look, the bricks are old, they're crumbling.

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Speaker 2: But you build that Bowl eligibility house, it accounts all

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Speaker 2: the same.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Sorry, reb Bilma pretty much called his offensive line out.

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Speaker 2: Like a week ago. He claims he was taken out

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Speaker 2: wasn't like super complimentary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, everybody's guilty of saying things and having

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Speaker 1: But one way or the other man, the offensive line

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Speaker 1: Good for them. Give a you know, split a game

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Speaker 1: Me, A pretty entertaining season for sure. Again your final

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Speaker 1: The way, we send our best to King Arthur Sikowski

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Speaker 2: It was Brandon Peters so through the game winning conversion. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Iowa State twenty four Oklahoma State twenty one. Another top

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: B October Man b October is real. Another close game

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Speaker 2: Broctober performance from Iowa State at home against an excellent

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Speaker 1: Defense for what it's worth, And to be fair, I

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Speaker 2: hate that. I hate that stuff. I'm okay with failed

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Speaker 2: It means you want to win, and I just you

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Speaker 2: don't win those games with threes. I know that would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate it. Well, a nice win for Iowa State.

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Speaker 1: B October continues. Yeah, the operative point here is the

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Speaker 1: I stand by what I said. They're running the table.

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Speaker 1: They may not cut the spread every week. They didn't

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Speaker 2: Nonetheless I pointed out, as you point, sometimes occasionally don't

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 1: Let's stay in the big twelve because we had some

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Speaker 1: other oddities here. Let's talk about this Oklahoma game. So

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma wins thirty five twenty three, but this is a weird,

443
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Speaker 1: freaking game. This is a weird game. Kansas led ten

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Speaker 1: to nothing at half, and they led after three quarters

445
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Speaker 1: seventeen to fourteen. You're watching the game either on TV

446
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Speaker 1: on the scoreboard with Twitter up however you chose to

447
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: do it, and you're thinking, like we always do, like okay,

448
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be like the Yellow car and RC pro am.

449
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Speaker 1: You're just gonna zoom to the front. They're gonna run

450
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Speaker 1: away with this thing, and then it's over. It was

451
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Speaker 1: fun while it lasted. That was not what really happened here,

452
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Speaker 1: if I'm being honest. There were all sorts of crazy circumstances.

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned the thing at the top, but the

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Speaker 1: official Kansas Twitter account basically said, Yo, if you're in town,

455
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Speaker 1: come on down.

456
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Speaker 2: We're going streaking.

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Speaker 1: We're going to open up the East and West gates.

458
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Speaker 1: We don't care if you have a ticket, just come in.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many people came in, but that's cool.

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Speaker 1: That would seem like many easily the coolest thing that

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Speaker 1: happened in Week eight. Now, they weren't able to seal

462
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Speaker 1: the deal, which is kind of a bummer for them,

463
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Speaker 1: but a cool gesture, I think if you're trying to

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Speaker 1: build any kind of football culture at Kansas, so good

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Speaker 1: on the Jayhawks for at least trying. And look, they

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Speaker 1: came pretty close in this one. Oklahoma came back as

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Speaker 1: you might expect, but it was not easy. Kansas played

468
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Speaker 1: well in this game and it looked like they were

469
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Speaker 1: going to get a chance to win this thing. Late.

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Speaker 1: They cut it to twenty eight to twenty three, and

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Speaker 1: that's when Oklahoma faced fourth and short late in the

472
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Speaker 1: game near midfield, Kennedy Brooks was stopped, He was stopped short.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams reaches in there, pulls it away from Andy Brooks,

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Speaker 1: the ball, the ball, and then runs for a first down. Yeah,

475
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Speaker 1: so everybody went crazy about this. I I've never seen

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Speaker 1: that before.

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Speaker 2: Same.

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Speaker 1: I've seen Neil advise laterals before, but not a returns.

479
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and it worked.

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Speaker 1: And so everyone's talking about Cable Williams and he's got

481
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Speaker 1: grit and he did of grit down the stretch. He

482
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Speaker 1: ran for a touchdown. He eaten definitely is looking downfield

483
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Speaker 1: in a way that Spencer Rattler was not. But let's

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Speaker 1: talk about this play for a second. Okay, Sure, if

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Speaker 1: you try that out of one hundred times, how many

486
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Speaker 1: times does it actually work?

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Speaker 2: Fifteen?

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Speaker 4: To me?

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Speaker 2: I mean there was that that Uh what was the

490
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Speaker 2: movie with Denzel Washington where he flipped the plane upside

491
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Speaker 2: down that was spiraling down and it actually worked. That

492
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Speaker 2: was Flight I believe, where he's the alcoholic pilot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it had.

494
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Speaker 2: That same feel to me.

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Speaker 6: That.

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Speaker 2: Man, awesome if it works, if it works, But man,

497
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Speaker 2: you you intentionally strip your teammates on a big play.

498
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Speaker 2: Now it was fourth down, they're gonna be short, whatever,

499
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Speaker 2: would have probably made a huge difference in terms of

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Speaker 2: field position. So maybe I understand the calculation if all

501
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Speaker 2: that was being processed by Caleb Williams in that moment.

502
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Speaker 2: But also risky, Yeah, risky man, I man takes balls.

503
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Speaker 2: That's yeah, balls player right there, I guess. So, so

504
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Speaker 2: it works, it works. Oklahoma scores a touchdown. They end

505
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Speaker 2: up winning the game by twelve. Notably, they did not

506
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Speaker 2: cover the thirty eight and a half point spread, not

507
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Speaker 2: even close.

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Speaker 1: But no, you know, two ways that we can look

509
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Speaker 1: at this, right, it's a thin win for Oklahoma. Oklahoma

510
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Speaker 1: has since ascended to third in the polls. You know,

511
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Speaker 1: good on Caleb Williams for getting the job done. Not

512
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Speaker 1: so good on the Oklahoma defense. If you watch this

513
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Speaker 1: game in like at all, Kansas guys were running wide open, Yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: wide open on most of the passing plays.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Jason Bean was, he was pinpoint.

516
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Speaker 4: It was.

517
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Speaker 2: It was a really interesting cocktail of and I know

518
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma's schedules kind of backloaded here, but it was a

519
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Speaker 2: cocktail of It seemed the Oklahoma slop right. They had

520
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Speaker 2: eight penalties or something in the first half, you know,

521
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Speaker 2: just giving free yardage away and Kansas just looking locked in.

522
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Speaker 2: It's that cocktail of apathy and focus that gives you

523
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Speaker 2: a ten to nothing halftime score, not punting until the

524
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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and offense that was just it was operating

525
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Speaker 2: and it was It was really cool to see from Kansas.

526
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Speaker 2: If indeed it is a preview of what's to come,

527
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Speaker 2: because Lance Leipold's reputation is teams lock in. They might

528
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Speaker 2: lose because they get beat by a more talented squad,

529
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Speaker 2: but they're not going to lose because of a lack

530
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Speaker 2: of where the run fits. What is this route right?

531
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Speaker 2: They're going to be a well coached team even if

532
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Speaker 2: they max out at six or seven wins. I hope

533
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Speaker 2: it's a look at what's to come for the Jayhawks.

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Speaker 4: They look.

535
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Speaker 1: I give him credit, Lancell I pulled first year coach

536
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Speaker 1: I think, someone we both really like and think was

537
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Speaker 1: a good hire, you know, trying to build something there

538
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Speaker 1: and had a shot late against Oklahoma, which is definitely

539
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Speaker 1: more than you could have ever asked for when we

540
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Speaker 1: did our previous show blast week and on the Oklahoma side,

541
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Speaker 1: look I mean, it's not great what happened on defense,

542
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Speaker 1: but everybody's got clunkers. It is the year of the clunker,

543
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Speaker 1: and to escape with a win, especially on a week

544
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Speaker 1: when there were other teams that were also trying to

545
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Speaker 1: escape or going into nine overtimes in the top ten,

546
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Speaker 1: you'll take the win. You'll take the win, You'll move on.

547
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Speaker 1: As he said, a bit backloaded with the schedule. I

548
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Speaker 1: do expect that at some point some of this will

549
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Speaker 1: come back to bite. Caleb Williams and I think he's

550
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Speaker 1: really good. I think he's the real deal. But he

551
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Speaker 1: is still green, and he definitely shows a propensity to

552
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Speaker 1: look down field a lot, a lot, and so maybe

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Speaker 1: they'll work with him to get the ball out a

554
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Speaker 1: little quicker and not be in those situations where he

555
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Speaker 1: has to make plays with his legs. I don't know

556
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Speaker 1: he's very effective, but I do expect that against some

557
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Speaker 1: better competition down the road, he could be in for

558
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Speaker 1: a challenge.

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Speaker 2: Agree, Oklahoma has pulled seven and zero from the jaws

560
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: of four and three. That's where they are right now.

561
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Speaker 2: They're going to lose convincingly to somebody, hopefully before the playoff.

562
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Speaker 2: So we have an actual record and data point for

563
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma as we get to that point. But yeah, they're

564
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Speaker 2: they're totally fine, but they are deeply flawed.

565
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Speaker 1: Just to close out on the Big twelve, we had

566
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Speaker 1: k State by one, twenty five, twenty four over Texas Tech,

567
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Speaker 1: and we had West Virginia twenty nine to seventeen over TCU. Yeah, good,

568
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: good effort from West Virginia offense, really balanced attack, good

569
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Speaker 1: at good game for Letty Brown. Yeah, the TCU situation

570
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: is not not ideal. We had the caller asking about

571
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Speaker 1: what do we do if the coach is a statue.

572
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: Whoever whichever fan base lost this game would lead there

573
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Speaker 2: thinking with we need to have a conversation about this coach.

574
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Speaker 2: Right if West Virginia loses this game by double digits,

575
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: it's what is the true feeling and direction of the

576
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: Neil Brown West Virginia program at this point. And then

577
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Speaker 2: if TCU loses this game like they did, which was

578
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: uneven on offense a week after Max Duggan was very

579
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Speaker 2: very good against Oklahoma for large stretches, it's what is

580
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: the Gary Patterson long term plan at this point? Because defensively,

581
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Speaker 2: they're nowhere near where they were and now offensively. It's

582
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Speaker 2: a week to week question or a year to year question.

583
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Speaker 1: Really frustrating. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, good comeback, by the way from

585
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: Kansas State who started slow once again but were able

586
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Speaker 2: to make place. Skyler Thompson was accurate. TuS Fawn not

587
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: all over the place in terms of big yardage, but

588
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: made plays in the red zone. A nice comeback and

589
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: for Texas Tech unfortunate.

590
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 4: Fortunate.

591
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Speaker 1: Let's kick it over to the PAC twelve and talk

592
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Speaker 1: about the Oregon game.

593
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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

594
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Speaker 1: Oregon wins thirty four thirty one on the road over UCLA.

595
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Speaker 1: Your boy Anthony Brown a season high three hundred and

596
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Speaker 1: eighty one yards of offense. Travis Dye became the first

597
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Speaker 1: player in FBS history to score touchdowns on four consecutive carries. Yes,

598
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Speaker 1: which is amazing. Didn't have a ton of rushing yards,

599
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Speaker 1: but scoring on four straight carries is pretty cool. Even still,

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Speaker 1: Dan Oregon manages to find a way to win games,

601
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Speaker 1: yet very unconvincingly that that seems to be their mo

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Speaker 1: this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were down fourteen to nothing after one of

604
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Speaker 2: the most eventful least eventful first quarters. UCLA came out

605
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: and sort of nickel and dimed and dtr was extending

606
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: plays and drives with his legs and shorter routes. Nothing

607
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: really downfield, No no big runs or anything like that,

608
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: despite having Britton, Brown and Zach Sharboney, but just how

609
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: to at a clear plan of attack and it works

610
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: seven to nothing and they get a short field block

611
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: punt fourteen nothing. He was like, I guess the route

612
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Speaker 2: is on because eventually UCLA is going to just pound

613
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: Oregon and they're going to get bigger plays. You know,

614
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: we've seen Zach Charboney run loose against a bunch of teams.

615
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Speaker 2: And to Oregon's credit, they calmed down. They had their

616
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: own game plan, they had their own sustained drives, and

617
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: it was a lot of short stuff early from Anthony Brown,

618
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: and they were not able to run the ball well.

619
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Speaker 2: But they get a turnover with that interception and they

620
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: chip away and then they get stops on defense and

621
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Speaker 2: they tighten up against Ucla. There's not a lot to

622
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: fear in terms of UCLA out wide, so they weren't,

623
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: you know, they weren't terribly scared of playing press a

624
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 2: little bit on the outside, and Anthony Brown eventually started

625
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: popping a couple passes down field, not crazy, but you know,

626
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: back shoulder throw down the sideline here and a throw

627
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: over the middle here. He was still missing very open receivers.

628
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: He was missing open receivers, and it's I I admire

629
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: Anthony Brown's ability to stick with I mean, he was

630
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: booed in Otson Stadium. He's really struggled at times. And

631
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: I have not been a huge fan of this offense

632
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: in general this year, just because there seems to be

633
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: a lot of missed opportunities and lack of momentum or cohesion.

634
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: And some of that's due to Joe Moorehead's health status

635
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 2: and he's back, but he really came to play in

636
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: that second half, especially that third quarter. He has the

637
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: long run, he keeps hitting dudes, leads the offense to points.

638
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: It's thirty four to seventeen. I believe Oregan went on

639
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: a thirty four to three run after that first quarter,

640
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: going down fourteen to nothing, and then through just bonehead

641
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: penalties and a bad interception, Anthony Brown throwing the ball

642
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: downfield as they're trying to ice the game, which is fine.

643
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: I would have liked to see it against like Arizona

644
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: in the spot that mattered a little bit less. I

645
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: don't mind being aggressive, but it was a bad throw

646
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: and they paid for it, but they hung on. They

647
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: get that interception laid against UCLA's backup quarterback once dtr

648
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: goes down. Nothing is ever comfortable with this Oregon team,

649
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: a purported top ten team, be it a good team,

650
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: be it a bad team. You win close against Ohio State,

651
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: you win close against a decent enough UCLA, and then

652
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: you win close against you know, Arizona, and you win close.

653
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they eventually won big in that game,

654
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: but it was close in the fourth quarter. Cal they

655
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: lose to stand like nothing's ever comfortable, which is not fun.

656
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: So good for the Ducks. And by the way, caveon Thibodeau, Wow,

657
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: that's all.

658
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Speaker 1: Oregon definitely gives the feel of a West Coast Virginia

659
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Speaker 1: Tech this year, don't they?

660
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Speaker 2: Oh that's mean, what did I do to you?

661
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Speaker 1: More controversial uniforms. But from the standpoint that nothing is

662
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Speaker 1: ever comfortable, we'll talk about tech here.

663
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Speaker 2: I don't even know. I don't even know what the

664
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Speaker 2: god who's the Oregon of the acc nancy state?

665
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Speaker 4: A man?

666
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Speaker 1: I don't know?

667
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Speaker 2: Now I would I would take Devin Leary in a heartbeat. Continue.

668
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Speaker 1: I thought for a second that we were going to

669
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Speaker 1: be google for a different Garber's. Because Ethan Garber's came in.

670
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: It seemed like he had a command of the offense

671
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: through the pick.

672
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, couple good balls, but.

673
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Speaker 1: It did give UCLA a chance late to maybe come

674
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: back and win. This one was not to be had

675
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: for the Bruins again. Thirty four to thirty one. Oregon

676
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: goes on the road and escapes. Yes, keeping with the

677
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Speaker 1: PAC twelve, number thirteen. Notre Dame thirty one, USC sixteen.

678
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: Don't know how much of this game that you watched,

679
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: But our friend Pete Sampson, who you called out for

680
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: all of Notre Dame's troubles a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,

681
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to Pete since then. I don't know

682
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: if he took that seriously mm hmm, but I thought

683
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: Pete did a good job putting this very succinctly on

684
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Speaker 1: his Twitter account. Notre Dame was more physical, USC was

685
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: more undisciplined, full stop. That was this game. That was

686
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: exactly the kind of game I think that we expected here.

687
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: Notre Dame led twenty four to three. After three quarters,

688
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: USC mounted a bit of a charge. They pulled with

689
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: an eight, but then a short touchdown run from Tyler

690
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: Buckner secured the win for it Notre Dame. Otherwise, look,

691
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: I was looking to see what Notre Dame was going

692
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: to do on the ground here. That was the big thing.

693
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: You may recall I talked about that on the previous show.

694
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: They had a good game on the ground. Kyraen Williams

695
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: had a buck thirty eight, two touchdowns on the ground.

696
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: Jack Cone faced minimal pressure, which was nice. He was

697
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: able to work through his progressions and when he's got time,

698
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: he is very good. I was able to go downfield.

699
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: I was happy to see a little bit of Lorenzo

700
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: Styles Junior, My boy, your guy.

701
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Avery Davis didn't do much in this one, right.

702
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: Your boy, every Davis, My guy, Avery Davis. Sure, yeah,

703
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: So it was fine. It was a fine effort for

704
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Drake London, for what it's worth, like the

705
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: only player for USC who is unguardable this season, fifteen

706
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: catches once seventy one, no touchdowns, but just a herculean effort.

707
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: Did everything he could to try and get his team

708
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: to victory. Here was not to be had, as USC

709
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: is now three and four. The only other note is

710
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: that Kyle Hamilton went down awkwardly out of bounds and

711
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: sort of had his knee get caught on the turf.

712
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: At first, in real time it looked pretty bad, but

713
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: then they showed the replay and it wasn't horrible. He

714
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: did limp off the field. In the post game, Brian

715
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: Kelly said that he I'm reading this here he pinched

716
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: the fat pad on his knee, been there, and that

717
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: there's no structural damage, So chances are good that he'll

718
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: be perfectly fine. But a bit of a momentary scare

719
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Speaker 1: there for Notre Dame Kyle Hamilton as they get the w.

720
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Speaker 2: Who are you more worried about? Virginia or Georgia Tech.

721
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Speaker 1: Probably Georgia Tech.

722
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Speaker 2: Okay, that game is in South Bend, though Virginia's in Charloieville.

723
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Speaker 2: They're at Stanford to finish out. The air in North

724
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: Carolina has been a struggle, We'll say, Man, Georgia Tech

725
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 2: scares me. I don't know, why what are we gonna

726
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: do if Notre Dame goes undefeated.

727
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: They're not going to go unefeated. But the rest of

728
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: the rest of the way. I mean, I don't know.

729
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: I mean, if they go undefeeded the rest of the way,

730
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: they're probably top six in the country. Right. Yeah, if

731
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Speaker 1: the polls keep recycling, and we're going to be in

732
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Speaker 1: a position. I'm going to be in a position come

733
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Speaker 1: late November where we've got people who don't normally listen

734
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: to the show chiming in say, ah, they're a fraud,

735
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: They're a fraud. We can't. I know they're a fraud.

736
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Speaker 2: We all know they're fraud. But we have a lot

737
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: of games to get to. What happens if Oregon wins

738
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Speaker 2: out winning the way that they have, which is not

739
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: generally impressively or comfortably, and Notre Dame does the same thing,

740
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Notre Dame lost to the best team

741
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: it played, and Oregon lost to one of the worst

742
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: teams it played, and Oregon still probably either if you

743
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: believe Texas A and M at home against Alabama or

744
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: Oregon on the road again twile State, they have one

745
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: of the best two wins of the season. I don't

746
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: want to have that comm Let's get through the packages

747
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: off here.

748
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: We got a bunch of other games to get to.

749
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Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, let's do it.

750
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: A good win for Notre Dame at home over USC

751
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: in the rivalry game. We had nice win for Oregon

752
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: State forty two thirty four over Utah. We had BYU

753
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: behind a near two hundred yard effort on the ground

754
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: by Tyler Aujeer knockoff Wash Wazoo on the road. We

755
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: had Cal in a nice neck crack game over Colorado,

756
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 1: getting their first win over a Power five team this year.

757
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: And we had Washington needing fourteen points in the fourth

758
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: quarter to beat hapless Arizona. You want to give any

759
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: quick thoughts on any of.

760
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: Those games, Yeah, I mean the Washington offense is happless

761
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: as well, and on a certain level, I never will

762
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 2: fault anybody, no matter where Arizona is as a program

763
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 2: for going into Tucson at night and winning a game

764
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 2: in which you are playing ugly, It's not a difficult

765
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: place play. It's a strange place to play. It's just

766
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: strange to go into the desert on like a Friday night.

767
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: I've just I've watched good Oregon teams struggle. So whatever,

768
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: get a win. However, you can good for Washington. You

769
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Speaker 2: can run the hell on the Huskies by the way

770
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want on the ground against

771
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: the Huskies Wazoo, all things considered, given the tumult of

772
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: this past week, the offense looked unorganized. Disorganized would be

773
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Speaker 2: the word, but I just they need to do better

774
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 2: tackling on the ground. But they were in that game,

775
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: so there's that. Good for Cala. I supposed to go

776
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: to Colorado and get that win. And Oregon State is

777
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: just the ability to adjust and improve over the course

778
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: of that game. They had a huge second half BJA

779
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: Baylor was ran strong. I like their receivers. I think

780
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: it was Trevon Bradford and Treshawn Harrison who had good games.

781
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: And Chance Nolan is accurate. He throws the ball confidently.

782
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody wants to play Oregon State. And

783
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: I'm raising my hand as somebody whose team plays the

784
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: Beaves in a rivalry game. They's just a well coached

785
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: team that executes no better teams.

786
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Speaker 4: They are.

787
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Speaker 2: They are tough out man, They're good, and I thought

788
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Speaker 2: Utah was good. And for them to put it on Utah,

789
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: who is flawed in ways, the special teams is all

790
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: over the place that they haven't really been. I still

791
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: think cam Rising is good, but man, Oregon State's tough.

792
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: YEP five and two. They play cal they play Colorado,

793
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Speaker 1: they play Stanford.

794
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: It's great.

795
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they play Arizona State in Oregon. You can

796
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: make a case at all those games are very winnable.

797
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: So and they found a coach who probably wants to

798
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: be there for a long time, which is amazing, awesome

799
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Speaker 2: for them. Yeah, good for them.

800
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move over to the acc We had

801
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Speaker 1: the nightcap Miami thirty one, number eighteen, NC State thirty

802
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: m hm. Can you hear folks chanting DVD?

803
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: This guy was just sitting on the bench.

804
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: Tyler van Dyke, their backup. Deer King is out. Jake

805
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: Garcia had the surgery. Tyler Van Dyke was pretty much

806
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: the backup the whole here. He's gotten a little bit

807
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: better each time he's gone out there. And earlier in

808
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: the week he made some waves by making a completely

809
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: asinine comment that NC State can't stop this Miami offense,

810
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: which is so ridiculous because Miami's done nothing at all

811
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: to make you think that would be the case. Well,

812
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: and behold, NC State couldn't stop Miami's offense.

813
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 2: No, they could not stop TVD.

814
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: They couldn't stop him sitting on the bench. He was great.

815
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: Three twenty five, four touchdowns. He called the shot called

816
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: the Babe Ruth, a huge home run win for Manny Diaz.

817
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: Man it was it felt like it was coming off

818
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: the swivel, didn't it for sure? And that's the beauty

819
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: of college football. It's the beautia sports. Really. It's just

820
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: you're always as good as your last w and this

821
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: is a pretty good one. Was a big win at home.

822
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: You know, the line was three and a half week

823
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Speaker 1: We kind of questioned should it be higher? After what

824
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: NC State did on the road to Boston College. eNCA

825
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: State seemed like it was putting it together. Devin Leary's

826
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: been very good. They haven't run the ball as well

827
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: as it would have expected, but nonetheless it's it's still

828
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: been a solid effort from top to bottom for the

829
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Speaker 1: wolf Pack. And it's just when you're running to the

830
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: buzzsaw that is TVD. I don't I don't know what

831
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: you're supposed to Is he from Connecticut?

832
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: Is he from PA? Where's he from? He's from the

833
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: northeast somewhere. You can look it up. As I describe

834
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: my thoughts on this game. I thought Jalen Knighton was

835
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: really good both getting tough yards on the ground and

836
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: he had that wheel route the wide wide open. It

837
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: was a great read, easy throw from TVD for the touchdown.

838
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: I mean talk about like the big pressure throw at

839
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: the end of the game to ic A TVD. It

840
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: was up the middle to I think a tight end

841
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: on third and sixteen. Yeah, to put the game away.

842
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: That's a big dude throw, man. I just I came

843
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: away so impressed. They were playing younger guys on defense.

844
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: They got great play from their safeties, like these young

845
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: blue chip guys that have been getting rotation and starting

846
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: time for Miami. Like it was, it's going to be

847
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 2: maddening because Miami's gonna look like garbage in the next

848
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: three or four weeks, just randomly, but encouraging because we

849
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: know this is what they can do. I thought, right

850
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: Lashley called a really nice game. The offensive line, which

851
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: has struggled at times, they held tough against a tough

852
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: NC State front. Look, it was awesome for Miami. It

853
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: was an awesome performance to see. And as you're you're

854
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: a fan of two teams, I'm a fan of one team.

855
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: To get consistently good downfield accuracy from a backup quarterback

856
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: or a starting quarterback whatever, Just what a pleasure. And

857
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: I felt the same way about Kenny Pickett. He's not

858
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: a backup, but just like I just I'm pawing at

859
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 2: the window. I want, I want.

860
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk about him next TVD. By the way,

861
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: the Pride and Joy of Glastonbury, Connecticut.

862
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew he was Northeast.

863
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Speaker 1: Great number twenty three pit gets the monkey off their back. Yeah,

864
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: twenty seven to seventeen over Clemson. We talked on the

865
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Speaker 1: preview pod. I think you mentioned it about the middle

866
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: eight that Dabble always talks about. Yes, the middle eight, right,

867
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: the last four minutes of the first half, the first

868
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: four minutes of the second half. How that can be

869
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: a pretty beginning to Cater asked to who's gonna win,

870
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: who's going to lose? Well, pitt did pretty well in

871
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: the middle eight. After trailing seven to nothing. They scored

872
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: twenty one consecutive points in that middle eight, two touchdown

873
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: passes from Kenny Pickett to end the second quarter, a

874
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: pick six early in the third quarter to make it

875
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: twenty one to.

876
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 2: Not just a pick six, sir on a quick little

877
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: shuffle Jeff shovel pass. Excuse me to was Servasia Savasier Dennis. Yeah,

878
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: the surprise pick in football, whatever level of football, be

879
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: it a shovel pass, be it like on a screen

880
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: where somebody's just standing in front of the back, or

881
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: like a defensive lineman just jumps up and picks off

882
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: a rifled ball from four yards away. It's rare, but man,

883
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: is it gratifying unless it happens to your team. But yeah,

884
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: to run that back, whoa, that's just such a backbreaker.

885
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 2: Great for Pitt.

886
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: Pitt extended the lead to twenty seven to ten midway

887
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: through the fourth quarter, and that was it. That was

888
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: pretty much it. So good on them. Kenny Pickett had

889
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: a good game. I think Pitt looked really solid here

890
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: in this effort. Definitely silenced some of the criticism on

891
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: the Clemson side. DJ, you got benched, he did briefly. Yeah,

892
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: Tyson Pumachan that's how you say his name.

893
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: We looked up pumchan Yeah, he's.

894
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: A four star kid from the twenty nineteen class. He

895
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: came in and got some reps. I'm happy that will

896
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: Shipley's back and healthy. That's good for this offense. But

897
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: Clemson Dabbo's got a quote out now that they're reevaluating

898
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: pretty much everything on offense as you might expect, just

899
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: not scoring points. Not scoring points. They have not been effective,

900
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know if the quarterback change is going

901
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: to be permanent. But Dju has not looked good this year,

902
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: no two ways about it.

903
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: No, it's I mean, pick your favorite dish with a

904
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: ton of different ingredients, pae I said Boolia Base a

905
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: few weeks ago. I don't know whatever it is, but

906
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: the combination of injuries and play calling and processing at

907
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: quarterback and receivers not blocking, not catching, I just it

908
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: is incompetence payea is too weird a term for Clemson's offense.

909
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if if Dju is just a bad

910
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: fit for what Clemson wants to do. I don't think

911
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: he was known as a big, dominant runner in high

912
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 2: school and that's what he's been asked to do at times,

913
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: because maybe that's just going to be easier for him

914
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: right now than going through progressions and a more complicated offense.

915
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, but DJU running this offense is not

916
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: the answer for Clemson. I tweeted out that like twenties

917
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: plenty to beat Clemson. That's the easy way of figuring

918
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 2: out how what score you to target as an offense.

919
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: It's just it's not happening, and it's not going to

920
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: happen this season. There's going to be you know, a

921
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: full reboot is probably needed for this Clemson offense and

922
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: how they evaluate and they don't bring in transfers. Maybe

923
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: that's a change that happens to address weaknesses along the

924
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: line or whatever. But man, weird to see and there

925
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: were like it was it was batting practice balls for

926
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett at time. Guys running open against this defense.

927
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: The you know, Clemson defense is slower than it probably

928
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 2: should be at a couple spots.

929
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 4: I just.

930
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: Man, Tenny Ticket and his evolution is a joy. He

931
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: just he has a joy to watch. He is comfortable,

932
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: He is accurate, and is appropriate to mention in any

933
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: Heisman conversation.

934
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: Uncle Joe Colarusso, who I saw yesterday, was asking me

935
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: about the big Giants fan. Uncle Joe should the Giants

936
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: draft Kenny Pickett. I was like, oh, man, I'm gonna

937
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: have to Kenny, Please don't do this to me.

938
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: But what a day, by the way to be a

939
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 2: pit fan. Not only do you beat Clemson in comfortable fashion,

940
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: but you get to watch Penn State lose in nine

941
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: overtimes incompetently to ill.

942
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: A beautiful day for a pit fan. A beautiful day

943
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: day h two p all right, Wake Forest seventy, Army

944
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: fifty six As I nearly blow our ear drums out,

945
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: say sorry, puppies, I apologize, but wow, one hundred and

946
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: twenty six points over twelve hundred total yards. No defense,

947
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: that's fine, No, no no defense here, basically no pressure

948
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: on Sam Hartman. He had a career high four fifty

949
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: eight and five touchdowns. Army with four sixteen and five

950
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: touchdowns on the ground. They never led in this game,

951
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: but they did go mano a mano with Wake until

952
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: a pick six in the third quarter, which gave Wake

953
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of extra padding. But look, Wake, it

954
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: doesn't always have to be pretty. Doesn't matter how you

955
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: do it, especially in twenty twenty one. This is one

956
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: of those sneaky games where we're like, all right, Army

957
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 1: is a good team. M hm play a quirky offense.

958
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: We could see it. I picked him out right, Like,

959
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: what the hell? Why not did not have Army scoring

960
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: fifty six points, but then again did not have Wake

961
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: scoring seventy. So quick thoughts on this one before we

962
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: round out the acc Dan.

963
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was incredible, incredible performance from I mean, it's

964
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: Jaquari Roberston. I believe their number one dude out wide

965
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: and has been for a little bit now. He was

966
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 2: running wide open. It was Army's terrible pass defense against

967
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 2: Wake Forest, terrible run defense. Somebody had to win. And

968
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: Sam Hartman has been there long enough and he's confident enough.

969
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: He was accurate, he was lethal, really impressive as Wake.

970
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: Excuse me goes to I believe it's seven and O

971
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: now right, they're one win away from what you called

972
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: very early on, if not the preseason. I give credit

973
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: where it's due.

974
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: Tie.

975
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: You said there is a conversation to be had about

976
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 2: eight and oh Wake, and we're a buck away, Tye,

977
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 2: come on.

978
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: I know, I'm ready. I know we will have the

979
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: balloon drop accordingly when they get to the grade eight number. Okay,

980
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: elsewhere Louisville twenty eight, Boston College fourteen, nice little seven

981
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: pack of turnovers in.

982
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: This Yeah, early ugliness from Louisville.

983
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had Syracuse forty one, Virginia Tech thirty six.

984
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: They were chanting fire fuente from the stands at Lane Stadium. Yeah,

985
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 1: and we had Virginia forty eight Georgia Tech forty.

986
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: All due respect to Alan Iverson, but Garrett Trader is

987
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: the answer right for Syracuse to all that has ailed

988
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: them five touchdowns. I understand why Virginia Tech fans are upset,

989
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: and they should be right that they lose close. Braxenburgmeister

990
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: still beat up and he made plays whatever, and they

991
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: ran the ball better Virginia Tech did. I believe right,

992
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: the Hokies ran the ball pretty well. I think we

993
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: just need to put a little bit more respect on

994
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 2: Syracuse at this point.

995
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: Not bad, They're not bad from.

996
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: The depths of where they were last year. And look,

997
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: they showed life a couple of years ago, right like

998
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 2: they were winning games against a weird ACC But they

999
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 2: really fell off the map via that offensive line, via

1000
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: questionable quarterback recruiting and development post your guy grungy, Eric Dungee,

1001
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: and I saw Tommy DeVito I believe enter the transfer

1002
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: portal recently. Okay, Garrett Schrader man, he looks in the

1003
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: carrier dome on the road in Blacksburg.

1004
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 4: They like it.

1005
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a really good story.

1006
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: I want to talk very quickly about the Virginia game. Yeah,

1007
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: Virginia led by seventeen going into the fourth quarter. They

1008
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: added a late touchdown that put this one on ice.

1009
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: But let me talk to you about why I like

1010
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. Okaya, Georgia Tech is the black Knight from

1011
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: Monty Python. Okay, they could be getting chopped limb from

1012
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: limb and they're just gonna call it a flesh found.

1013
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: They're just going to keep trying. They always play hard

1014
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: from whistle to whistle. I admire that it's been a

1015
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: tough year. The schedule's been brutal. We knew that going in.

1016
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: They're not given any favors just by virtue of who

1017
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: they have to play and how things set up. But

1018
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: it's it's meaningful to me that they play as hard

1019
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: as they do. Also, I'm not sure something's wrong with Virginia.

1020
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: But it's now two straight games where bernand Armstrong has

1021
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: not gotten to four hundred yards passing. Oh yeah, sorry,

1022
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 1: you only got what three ninety six three ninety six

1023
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: and four touchdowns, also ninety nine yards and two touchdowns

1024
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: on the ground, right, So maybe we have that conversation

1025
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: at some point about what's wrong with him, But yeah,

1026
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: I still respect the hell out of Bronco deciding we're

1027
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: just gonna have quarterbacks do everything, just like he did

1028
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: with Bryce Perkins. We've mentioned in the past, and Keithon

1029
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: Thompson has been a joy to watch this year. We

1030
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: mentioned in him on Solid Saturday yesterday Solid Saturday dot

1031
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: Com eleven am Eastern on Saturday mornings.

1032
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: Virginia is quite fun. They have a bad defense and

1033
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: a strong offense and that is going to mean that

1034
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: they play in entertaining competitive games. You should watch the

1035
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 2: Who's We highlighted this on the show yesterday the live stream. Yep,

1036
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 2: Virginia's gonna play in entertaining games and they have notre

1037
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: Dame what in two three weeks.

1038
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

1039
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a.

1040
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: Big challenge, big challenge. Also, Florida State won fifty nine three.

1041
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: Over you Mass, No surprise there they did. Tuble Party

1042
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: got in right, tub Purty got in. Yeah, he was

1043
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 2: like five for five for I mean, he had impressed

1044
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: it to you, Mass. I don't good to see him

1045
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: to see him back, could see.

1046
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: Beat up over In the Big Ten, we had Ohio

1047
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: State fifty four, Indiana seven, We had Wisconsin thirty, Perdue thirteen,

1048
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: Minnesota thirty four, Maryland sixteen, and to round it out,

1049
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: Michigan thirty three, Northwestern seven. No real surprises in the

1050
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: Big Ten outside of that obvious game between Illinois and

1051
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: Penn State.

1052
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: If I were to describe every single one of these games,

1053
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: or if I were to describe a game outside of

1054
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: the Ohio State game as well, they just ran the

1055
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: hell out of the ball and eventually the other team

1056
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: broke down and that strategy worked. Am I talking about

1057
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: Illinois's win? Am I talking about Michigan's win? Am I

1058
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 2: talking about Wisconsin's win? Am I talking about Minnesota's win?

1059
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: Because there was some Saturday strategy to Big Ten football, like, Eh,

1060
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: let's not get super fancy and throw the ball. Let's

1061
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 2: just do what we need to do on the ground.

1062
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 2: Murray back Graham Mertz threw at eight times. Yeah, he

1063
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: do the ball eight times in that game. Yeah. If

1064
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: something is working, whatever it is that's working, and you

1065
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 2: are confident that it can win you the game, do

1066
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: it to do what.

1067
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: The Wisconsin defense eight up Perdue it was not a

1068
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: repeat effort from the Boiler Bakers. As you mentioned, Minnesota

1069
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: very impressive on the ground. Tanner Morgan only had to

1070
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: throw it twelve times. Same deal and Michigan. Michigan ran

1071
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: the hell out of the ball in their win over

1072
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: Northwestern real quick. On the Ohio State side, yeah, Bradley Juhul,

1073
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: who writes for our site, he was on our slack

1074
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: late last night. He was I guess not late last night,

1075
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: but during this time Indiana Vaughts. Yeah, He's like, is

1076
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: there any chance we could get ten minute running quarters

1077
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: here in the second half. Yeah, it was just just

1078
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: a blowout. CJ. Stroud looks really good for a touchdown. Passes.

1079
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: Good game from Travon Henderson, who has scored fourteen touchdowns

1080
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: this season. He's actually four touchdown short of the record

1081
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: that Maurice Claret set as a freshman. So it's going

1082
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: well for Ohio State. You could definitely convince me that

1083
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: they're the best team in the country right now. I

1084
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: will keep betting on Ohio State as long as the

1085
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: lines encourage me to do so. Indiana, for what it's worth, Look,

1086
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 1: the season continues, been a rough patch here. They played

1087
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: at one point in this game their fourth string quarterback. Yeah,

1088
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, not going great. Still play hard, still have

1089
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: the defense to the sun extent, but the offense is

1090
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: really in shambles.

1091
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: I look at Ohio State schedule, not that they haven't

1092
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: played anybody, but it's been a really nice stretch of

1093
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 2: teams to get its act together on both sides of

1094
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: the ball. Maybe CJ. Stroud and his shoulder was sore

1095
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: and he took a week off. He looks so confident

1096
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: and so poised in this offense and lethal since that

1097
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: Oregon loss. So it's been Tulsa, Akron, Rutgers, Maryland, Indiana

1098
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 2: since the Oregon loss. They'll have Penn State's defense, which

1099
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: wasn't great, and Penn State's off night. They got Nebraska's defense,

1100
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: which is pretty good. But Nebraska's offense, Purdue, Michigan State, Michigan,

1101
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: I am, what is the best offense they're facing these

1102
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 2: last five games. I mean, Michigan State can pop some

1103
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 2: big plays, they have big play dudes, but that that

1104
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: offense can also disappear for long, long stretches. Cad McNamara

1105
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: did essentially nothing against Northwestern. Maybe the most disappointing team

1106
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: in the Conference. Now, they ran the hell out of

1107
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: the ball. Defensively, they were very strong.

1108
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: You called them Caid snack Namara when we talked last night.

1109
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: Just little little bite sized passes, little bite size passes

1110
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 2: for Katie Snacks oh Man. All right, Well, but yeah,

1111
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know what's more discouraging. If

1112
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: there's a player that you know is the best, like

1113
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: a Drake London or DeVante Smith last year, where you

1114
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 2: know he's the best and you can't do anything about him,

1115
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: or Ohio State just comes at you with nine incredible

1116
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 2: receivers in waves where it's like they have another guy,

1117
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: they have three more guys like this, And that's what

1118
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: Ohio State is right now against these teams incredible. Ohio

1119
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: State looks very, very formidable, and they've got a good

1120
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: chunk of their big games remaining. So we'll talk about

1121
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: that in do time. Let's move over to the SEC.

1122
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: Alabama fifty two to Tennessee twenty four.

1123
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: I've been telling you about zombie Alabama. R taste their

1124
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: own blood. Be careful of Alabama, especially this late in

1125
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,479
Speaker 1: October when things are ready to get a little spooky. Yeah,

1126
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: be careful about Alabama when they taste their own blood,

1127
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: not only over the course of the season, but in

1128
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: this game. This was not a crock potting the way

1129
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: that our caller referenced on the reverse.

1130
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: No, is this not It was like thirty one twenty

1131
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: four in the fourth quarter. It was a touch down game,

1132
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: not late late, but you know, deep into the game.

1133
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: This was a seven point game until the early part

1134
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter. And that's when Bama started to

1135
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: pull away. They got an interception, they started pulling away.

1136
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: They use that as the catalyst. This is not a

1137
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: crock potting. They just they converted late. Maybe it was

1138
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: a bit of a pan seer after a souveting I

1139
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: don't know what you want to Chara.

1140
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: Saying, dash of this late to really finish it off.

1141
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: Maybe great, some hard cheese over the top.

1142
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, But Tennessee, I thought I quitted itself very well

1143
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: in this football game. This was a course of rivalry

1144
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: that everybody knows about. But a good showing for Tennessee

1145
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: and a better showing for Alabama late. Bama's offensive talent

1146
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: is just undeniable. I feel like we talk about it

1147
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: every week, but it bears mentioning. Again. Bryce Young is

1148
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: so good in the pocket. We got to see more

1149
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: of his legs in this game, which gave Bama a

1150
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: nice boost. He just his ability to find pockets and

1151
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: really make you think about another ball carrier. If they

1152
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: do more of that down the stretch, makes them virtually unbeatable.

1153
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson just so damn physical.

1154
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 2: He's strong.

1155
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a physical runner. And I didn't realize that

1156
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: John Metchi had the moves that he has.

1157
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it all came together.

1158
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: Now.

1159
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: All that said, Bama's secondary had some moments. Tennessee took

1160
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: the top off a couple times. Predrick Tillman was really,

1161
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: really good. The big difference for Tennessee is, though, when

1162
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: they get that break, whether it's a turnover, whether it's

1163
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: an explosion play, whatever, whether it's going up fourteen to

1164
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: seven and having the chance to really put their feet

1165
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: on the gas. It's in those moments that Tennessee is

1166
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: not yet and I emphasize yet able to capitalize right

1167
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: because beating Alabama knowing that you have to score forty

1168
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: plus to do so, it's those moments. It's those drives.

1169
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: It's early drives in the game right where you script

1170
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,479
Speaker 2: out something awesome and you go up seven to nothing,

1171
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: or you tie Bama seven all right, that you can

1172
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: match them early and then when there are those windows,

1173
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: because Bama will give teams windows to take advantage. Not

1174
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: a lot of teams are able to do against this front,

1175
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: this linebacking corps, one of the most dominant recent defensive

1176
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: players in Will Anderson. But it is those moments, in

1177
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: those situations that Tennessee is not yet ready to take advantage.

1178
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: Now they have guys, they have dudes. I think the

1179
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: job that Josh Heipel has done has been quite impressive

1180
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: all things considered with where this roster was heading into

1181
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: the season, But otherwise, I don't know how if you're

1182
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 2: a Tennessee fan in the off season you aren't encouraged

1183
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 2: almost week to week by what you've seen. I know,

1184
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: second halves haven't been greating, you know, the second half

1185
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: of the Florida game, whatever, and certainly the way the

1186
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: Ole Miss game finished. But it's a similar vibe, but

1187
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: I think, perhaps on a higher level offensively to how

1188
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: I think Arkansas fans should have felt after last year.

1189
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: Where're like, man, the improvement is clear, the ceiling is unclear,

1190
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: but the improvement and direction to me is pretty interesting.

1191
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: Right now for the balls, so you know, eventually you'll

1192
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: feel happy about it.

1193
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: I remember when, and it was maybe year one or

1194
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: year two after Brian Kelly took over at Notre Dame,

1195
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: and I remember being in the position of not really

1196
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: expecting much given where they had come from, but just

1197
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: looking for improvement and looking on a week two week basis,

1198
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: does it look like A people are getting better and

1199
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: B does it look like they're still playing hard? Yes,

1200
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: and they went to I believe I forget the year

1201
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: the Champs Sports Bowl against Florida State.

1202
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: AJA Manual game.

1203
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: I believe right, Yeah, and it was like a really

1204
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: good in that game, Yeah, really good in that game,

1205
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: And that for me was always the encouraging sign that

1206
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: this team that is playing hard, whistle to whistle the

1207
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: full season through and Tennessee reminds me a little bit

1208
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: of that. You know, the on field results maybe aren't there.

1209
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: It's a brutal schedule. It was always going to be

1210
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: very difficult. But much the way an Arkansas fan has

1211
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: to look at this season and be overjoyed with the

1212
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: results regardless of the win loss record, Tennessee has to

1213
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: be in a similar spot. This offense was a messy

1214
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: year ago. It was Another problem is Hendon Hooker is

1215
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: not going to be there forever. He's not going to

1216
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: be there for the start over at quarterback. Yeah, but

1217
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: it's you know this too. It's kind of a coin

1218
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,959
Speaker 1: flip when you bring over a transfer, it's a lot

1219
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: like bringing on a new head coach. You just don't

1220
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: know what you're going to get. Per I think the

1221
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: latest run of the sp plus this was a top

1222
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: twenty offense. To go from where they were to where

1223
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: they're at now with a transfer quarterback and a new

1224
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: system and a new coach in what seemingly is the

1225
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: blink of an eye, has really been a great story

1226
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: for that Tennessee program. So I'm very optimistic about where

1227
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: they could go next.

1228
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: And Butch is struggling at Arkansas, so there's that too.

1229
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Oh, miss wins By seventeen over LSU.

1230
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: Matt Corral did play surprise surprise and LS you Couldn't Run,

1231
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: which was also surprise surprise.

1232
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: The job that DJ Dearkin did with that defense is

1233
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: I mean, just even last week, I mean just they've

1234
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: for stretches have been much more impressive than I imagined

1235
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: they would be.

1236
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: We had A and M win by thirty over South Carolina.

1237
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: This one was never close, forty four to nothing at

1238
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: the start of the fourth quarter. Mississippi State one big

1239
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: over Vanderbilt forty five to six, four touchdowns, three eighty

1240
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: four for Will Rogers. Vandy was outgained by nearly four

1241
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: hundred yards. And then we had the all Arkansas battle

1242
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: in Arkansas and Arkansas Pine Bluff, Arkansas Razorbacks win by

1243
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: forty two.

1244
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't think I have too much to add there,

1245
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,959
Speaker 2: but it's an encouraging sign for A and M that

1246
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: you have an exceedingly winnable game, but you have a

1247
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 2: backup quarterback, you have some uneven passing and yet comfort

1248
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 2: comfortable win. That's all you can ask for.

1249
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: Let's move over and talk about the Cincinnati game. Let's

1250
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: number two Cincinnati on the road at Navy. We mentioned

1251
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: this on the preview show. Somebody had written in that

1252
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: the last time Navy hosted a number two team was

1253
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: back in nineteen eighty four. It was South Carolina. Arver

1254
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: Bauler was there. South Carolina left with their hat in

1255
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: their hand.

1256
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, relevant history relevant to this specific matchup. Personnel, coaching

1257
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: staff continue.

1258
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: It felt a little bit though, like Navy internalized that Okay,

1259
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: this was the only kind of game they could have

1260
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: played if they wanted to win. The only kind of

1261
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: game that they could have played, And the formula is

1262
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: pretty simple. Really keep your defense off the field as

1263
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: much as you can. If your Navy just run clock,

1264
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: eat up forty minutes of game time. Control possession. Limit

1265
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: the number of chances that your opponent has to go

1266
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: out there and score. If you get a couple stops, great,

1267
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: If you don't, you're going to lose. But if you

1268
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: get a couple stops you might lose. Anyway, This is

1269
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: the only chance that you have to win. Limit opponent possessions.

1270
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: Try to get your offense moving forward, give yourself a shot.

1271
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: They move the ball in Sincy. This wasn't like a

1272
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: fluke like they move. They moved the ball pretty well

1273
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: on Cincinnati. They got a couple stops. On Cincinnati. They

1274
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: recovered an awesome misdirected on side kick late yep, which

1275
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: somehow caught Cincinnati by surprise. I still don't totally understand

1276
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: that one. But they get an onside kick late. They

1277
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 1: could have had a chance if not for the fact

1278
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: that they immediately threw an interception which ended the game.

1279
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they had a they were driving late to tie.

1280
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 2: So you know, I am curious to see how the

1281
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: voters respond to this.

1282
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 4: Now.

1283
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: I get the sense that people are definitely looking for

1284
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: a reason to ding Cincinnati and move them down, especially

1285
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: with the way Ohio State's playing, especially now with the

1286
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: Cale Williams thing, which everyone's excited about there. There's definitely

1287
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: going to be even Alabama. You know, Alabama looked good.

1288
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: There's definitely going to be a draw to put somebody

1289
01:05:55,360 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: else over Cincinnati. And beating Navy by seven is not

1290
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: a great look. But how much of this game did

1291
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: you watch? Do you think it tells us anything about

1292
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: Cincinnati moving forward?

1293
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 2: Not a ton. They haven't been as good on the

1294
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 2: road now their road games are. It's a very strange

1295
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 2: collection of Indiana, Notre Dame, and now Navy, so three

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Speaker 2: very different teams. The offense was not amazing against Notre Dame.

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01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: They took advantage of short fields and they they ended

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Speaker 2: up beating the Irish only by eleven, So Indiana was

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01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: slow start. Eventually they make the score look more impressive

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Speaker 2: than that performance actually was. And this Navy one was

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01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: not great. This is being in it with a midshipman

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01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 2: team that has always been able to run the ball,

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01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 2: that can't run the ball, and has had turbulence behind

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01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 2: the scenes among its offensive coaching staff. Of course, now

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01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: that that's pretty well documented. But I think a team

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Speaker 2: like Cincinnati, as a G five team, which is their

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01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 2: current lot in life, has to go above and beyond.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 2: And as tricky as Annapolis is, and as tricky and

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Speaker 2: different as this Navy matchup, is not a good Navy team,

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01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 2: and I think you need to win this game by

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01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 2: double digits. So I think Cincinnati gave the Committee a

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 2: reason to doubt them, and I hope for their sake,

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01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 2: I hope for the Bearcat's sake, they give them a

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01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 2: reason down the line, likely against SMU, to say that

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01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: was a blip. But it's easier to doubt a G

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Speaker 2: five team you built in doubt. You build in doubt

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Speaker 2: at this point if you're the Committee, because that's what

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Speaker 2: track record shows.

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Speaker 1: There have been a handful of games for Cincinnati this

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Speaker 1: year where through let's say a quarter and a half,

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Speaker 1: they seem flat and you wonder, are they gonna lose

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Speaker 1: this game today?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Is this the early part of an upset, and in

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Speaker 1: most cases, in all cases, obviously they settle down, they

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01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: find the rhythm. Des Ritter looks very calm in the pocket,

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01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: delivers balls accurately and for touchdowns to great effect. But eventually,

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Speaker 1: I wonder, if we come to a point this season

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Speaker 1: and I don't know who it's against. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's against SMU, I don't know if it's in

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Speaker 1: a bowl game, maybe a playoff game, eventually you would

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Speaker 1: think that would come back to get them.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't yet, It might not all year. But this

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Speaker 1: was one of those games where Navy I thought executed

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01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: its game plan very well. They had a shot late,

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01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: they weren't able to execute, but they did what they

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01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: needed to to stay close with the number two team

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Speaker 1: in the country. So good on them, and good on

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati going on the road to get a w YEP.

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01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: All right, some other games here that I jotted down.

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Speaker 1: We had San Diego State switching up their defense, springing

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01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: down a fourth linebacker to upend the Air Force Falcons.

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01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 2: Top Air Force team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, this is a six to one Air Force

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01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: team coming into this game. And that's in a year

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01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: where they had a ton of turnover to contend with.

1349
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: But good year for air Force, a better win for

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01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: San Diegos eight twenty to fourteen. We had your road runners, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Maybe me, do I have it? Do I have the

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Speaker 2: sound me?

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Speaker 1: There we go forty five to sixteen, Your boy, sincere McCormick,

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01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: of course, my guy, an honest man. Twenty three carries

1355
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteen yards and three touchdowns UTSA by

1356
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: the way, on a collision course with one lost UTEP.

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Speaker 1: First week in November.

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01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: It's a big one. The miners amid Conference USA being

1359
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: just rated by the American Yeah, it's that's gonna be a

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01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 2: fun matchup. It's just a hell of a job. Both

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01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 2: of these coaches have done. Uh Fresno State, Nevada the Dogs.

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01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: The Bulldogs are able to weather Carson Strong and Romeo

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01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 2: Dubs like it's that's a tough thing to do. I

1364
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: think they were like a combined and maybe you have

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01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: the box score in front of you, something like one

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01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: hundred pass attempts in this game.

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, so.

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01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Carson Strong threw it like sixty times.

1369
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: But this was they ha on what it's a two

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01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: two three point win. Really Strong no pun intended for

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01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: uh for Fresno State that performance and once again Jay

1372
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: Hayner throws the ball all around, you know, spreads it

1373
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 2: around really nicely, and they get a couple of nice performances.

1374
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: I think uh old Man Rivers had to bust it

1375
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 2: out a long run, but they it was. It was

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01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 2: an even complete offensive performance from Fresno State in a

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01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: h I would say, must win game for them.

1378
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 1: So good, definitely, definitely good to.

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01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 2: The San Joaquin Valley. What else jumped out to you

1380
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 2: because I was wrong about app State? Yeah, App State

1381
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: I was gonna mention that game. So this is a

1382
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: Wednesday night game. Yeah, they were squaring off against Coastal Carolina.

1383
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: A great win State. I don't know how else to

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01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 2: characterize it. A really solid game for your boy Chase Bryce,

1385
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: my guy who has played pretty well this season. Yeah,

1386
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 2: I mean, they ran the ball well, they the receivers

1387
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: came to play. It was a it was a really

1388
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: impressive win. I mean to pick against app State in

1389
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 2: boone in a big the biggest game of the year

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01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: for them, It's just it was done by me. It

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01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 2: was but man Coastal had like into this game coming

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01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: into this game, a historically dominant offense.

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01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: Yep, this was a nail bier is twenty seven all

1394
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 1: after three quarters, and it took app State all fifteen

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01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: minutes of that final frame to get to a position

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01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: to score. They knocked through a twenty four yard field

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01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: goal as time expires, and they're now in the driver's

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01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: seat in the sun Belt. This is a big win

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01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 1: over number fourteen Coastal Carolina. Thirty to twenty seven was

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01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: your final. The only other game that I've got listed here,

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01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that there are others that I'm missing,

1402
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: but SMU fifty five to Lane twenty six. Tanner Mordecai

1403
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: big Day has been having a big year four to

1404
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: twenty seven to three touchdowns. They are on the road

1405
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: against Houston next week in what should be a really

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01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: good game. Week twelve though, Dan Week twelve on the

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01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: road at Cincinnati. That's the game. That's that's the game.

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01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to that game.

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01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: Okay, as am I I think that's a it's a

1410
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 2: it's an obvious watch game. There's some there's some quiet results,

1411
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 2: and there's some quiet seasonings in impressive fashion, just happening

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01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 2: a little bit. I guess underneath our radar. The radar

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01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 2: you remember, Louisiana comfortably lost to Texas and early on

1414
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 2: in Sarks Tenure. They have not lost since. Now raging

1415
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 2: Cajun's are six and one, four and oh in the

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01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 2: sun Belts and quietly putting together a really impressive season.

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01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: San Jose State almost lost to UNLV, who was looking

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01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: to win for the first time in quite some time.

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01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: But the un l V are there? Are they just

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01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 2: the rebels? Are they runing rebels? I don't know they

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01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: They fall to oh to seven UCF with an impressive

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01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: win against Memphis. It's been a really trying year for

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01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 2: the Knights, but to get that comfortable win. Utah State

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01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: goes to five and two with Blake Anderson, so happy

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01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:56,799
Speaker 2: for for the Aggies there. Otherwise, I'm trying to see

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01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: if there was anything else. I think you nailed everything

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01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: in terms of results. Tight game, Kent State gets a win.

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01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 2: Denny Crumb Dustin Crumb in a nice game against Ohio.

1429
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 2: Rice beat u A b UAB lost at home for

1430
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: the first time since twenty fourteen to a conference opponent.

1431
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 2: Ty yeah, Rice, Man, come on, YEP. I don't know

1432
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: what to say. Toledo and Western Michigan play. Toledo got

1433
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: a win after not playing super well this year except

1434
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 2: against Notre Dame, because against Notre Dame they showed out.

1435
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 2: Liberty goes to six and two with one of the

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01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 2: better quarterbacks in the country and Malik Willis Houston a

1437
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: very quiet six and one. A five hour delay in

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01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 2: this one. Did you see that?

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01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: I saw it?

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01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: An Yeah, that's ornoh in the in the American Otherwise,

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01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 2: Hawaii wins extremely late in a bit of a shootout

1442
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 2: over New Mexico State. That is I think everything I have.

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01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: That is all I have as well. Look a great

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01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: batch of reverbs this week. Yeah, save it in your phone.

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Speaker 1: into the tent as possible.

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Speaker 2: Ty, who's the fourth best team in America?

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01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: The fourth best team in America.

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01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 2: If we're to assume Georgia, Alabama and Iowa. Georgia, Alabama

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01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 2: and Ohio State have made convincing enough cases to be

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Speaker 2: top three ish more so than anybody else. To me,

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Speaker 2: who's that fourth team that's made that case? Is it Cincinnati?

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01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: It is probably Cincinnati? Okay, is probably Cincinnati?

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01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 2: Do you think they're playing right now? Is there a

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01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 2: team that might not have the record the obvious record,

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01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 2: but do you think has a ceiling of top four ish.

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01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: Well, Oklahoma, I mean Oklahoma I think is the easy

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01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: one that if they get.

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Speaker 2: But do you struggle with Kansas? I know, I'm keeping

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01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 2: you out of a conversation. You're getting a time out,

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01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: a conversation time out for at least a week.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I think if I am forced to choose,

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01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: those are my top five, and I could see it

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01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: going a number of different directions within that little capsule.

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01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 1: But I think Michigan's got a loss coming. We obviously

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01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: saw Penn State, they were in the top ten. Oklahoma

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01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: State got their loss this week, Michigan State's got one

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 1: coming maybe this week to Michigan, who knows. And Oregon's

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01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: probably gonna vault up by virtue of the losses in

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: front of them, and then probably again after next week,

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01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: depending on what happens between Michigan State and Michigan. I'm

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01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: not a huge Oregon believer, but they're gonna be there

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01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: in the conversation. I do feel like there's a pretty

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01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: big gap though, as you jump down from that top

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01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: tier of those five teams that we mentioned to whoever

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01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 1: is next, and there's a big group of teams that

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01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: you could put in that next class. I think there's

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01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 1: a pretty big gap between them.

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Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. I don't know. I honestly, I

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01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 2: don't know who if they're playing at their best, which

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01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means for Oklahoma or Michigan

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01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 2: or Oregon or Michigan State, like all, every one of

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01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: these teams can lose to a clearly lesser opponent.

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01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's true, It's very true.

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01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to play answer man.

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01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,839
Speaker 1: I want to put everybody on notice for next week,

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Speaker 1: and then we're going to be fond to do. Week

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Speaker 1: nine is crazy, make your plans accordingly. We've got the

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Speaker 1: cocktail party between Georgia and Florida. We've got Michigan Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: We've got Penn State Ohio State, both of which will

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Speaker 1: still be very interesting games. We've got Ole Miss at Auburn,

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Speaker 1: SMU Houston, as we mentioned, UCLA Utah could be a

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Speaker 1: very good game. And those are just the headliners. Iowa Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Don't know if you want to watch that game, but

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Speaker 1: it will definitely tell us something about the Big ten. West.

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Speaker 1: Texas Baylor will be interesting. New look Miami with our

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Speaker 1: boy TVD going on the road against Pitt, Texas Tech, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: per Do Nebraska, Florida State, Clemson could be interesting for

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Speaker 1: the first time in a while, Kentucky, Mississippi State, UNC,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Virginia BYU and the Bronco Bowl, and Fresno

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Speaker 1: against San Diego State out west. So there's just so

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Speaker 1: many really good high level matchups next week that I

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Speaker 1: think we're gonna talk about here in just a few

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Speaker 1: days that I'm just I'm thrilled for Week nine. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 2: Can I give you two teams and then we'll sign off. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking about this and looking at the rankings.

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Speaker 2: Two teams that all but those top three ish teams

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Speaker 2: would not want to play right now, that are nowhere

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Speaker 2: near the top four. Two teams operating in a thorough

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Speaker 2: fashion that neither I mean Georgia, Oh excuse me, Georgia,

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Speaker 2: Alabama and Ohio State would beat these two teams. But

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Speaker 2: Baylor and Pitt are two teams that no team outside

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Speaker 2: of those would be happy to face right now. No, right, absolutely, Okay, that's.

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Speaker 1: It, Dan, fun show. Encourage everybody going out to solidverbal

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Speaker 1: of our episodes for that guy over there, my good

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Speaker 1: friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself ty holding Brand. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for downloading, for listening, for supporting the show.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on Wednesday with that Week nine preview.

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