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Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. To the welcome into a Monday edition

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Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com live

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Speaker 1: from the Training camp grounds in Oxnard, California, of course,

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Speaker 1: presented by American Airlines. Is Training Camp twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: rolls on here from the West Coast alongside Mickey's Bag Nola,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's where we are just thirty

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Speaker 1: one days away, gentlemen, one month pretty much exactly from

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Speaker 1: kickoff of the twenty twenty one season and that Week

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Speaker 1: one matchup with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That's a Thursday

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Speaker 1: night football game. But we have Thursday night football and

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Speaker 1: a little Saturday afternoon football to talk about for the

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Speaker 1: first time here on Talking Cowboys, because the last time

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Speaker 1: we had a show, we were leading into the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and then we

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Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to catch up since the Saturday

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Speaker 1: practice against the Rams, and like Mike McCarthy, said Rob.

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Speaker 1: It was a week one and a half really of

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Speaker 1: preseason football for this Cowboys team, and it was a

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Speaker 1: beneficial one at that. Yeah, I mean because of that

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Speaker 1: in part, you know, they're they're giving the guys basically

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Speaker 1: three days off. You know they're going to have a

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Speaker 1: walkthrough tomorrow, but mostly just kind of weight room work

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Speaker 1: and film work today to clean everything up because it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was a quick forty eight hours when

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Speaker 1: you think about what they had to do going up

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Speaker 1: against two teams, not live against the Rams, but but

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Speaker 1: some good work. You know, Mickey and I were at

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Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen joint practice out here against the Rams

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Speaker 1: and that was like a barroom brawl at time. This

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Speaker 1: one was like a pillow fight compared to that in

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Speaker 1: terms of some of the skirmishes. But I think you

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Speaker 1: said it before we went on, like it was just

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Speaker 1: the right amount of physicality. You know, there were a

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Speaker 1: anything where anybody I think was at risk of getting hurt.

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Speaker 1: And when you go up against the team that's been

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Speaker 1: like that's that's a good little test early in camp,

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Speaker 1: and I think we forget sometimes that we're early in camp.

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Speaker 1: They've had five six padded practices. That's it. One preseason game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're wrapping things up here in Oxnard this week. But

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Speaker 1: there's still a long way to go. Yeah, Mike should

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Speaker 1: have get have named a movie. Right, forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: He kept talking about forty eight hours. And it was

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Speaker 1: a good forty eight hours. Eddie Murphy. Yeah, and uh,

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Speaker 1: He said, this team improved a lot over the last

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Speaker 1: forty eight hours, and I'm really excited about that. And

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, it was a quick turnaround from

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Speaker 1: as Rob said, you play on Thursday night in Canton, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: You show up here Friday at five in the morning,

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Speaker 1: the Rams. So they content they put a lot of

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Speaker 1: I thought it was good. I thought the guys responded.

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Speaker 1: I thought he regulated their snaps very well, didn't use

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Speaker 1: they played on Saturday. So Tyrn Smith's out there, Leale

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Speaker 1: I thought that was huge. It's huge for Garrett Gilbert

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Speaker 1: three days? Right? The cards and the bonnuts will come out.

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Speaker 1: you know, not backing down from two time Defensive Player

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Speaker 1: he's not working with the offense, he's not working with

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Speaker 1: the receivers, while the defense is not getting to work

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Speaker 1: against the top notch quarterback. And you would like to

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Speaker 1: because that's what you want to see because this team

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Speaker 1: as Mike McCarthy said, good forty eight hours, it was.

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Speaker 1: Com of the of the dust up with Connor and

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Speaker 1: you know, everything will be okay. Actually, see the lamp

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Speaker 1: See more, do more, slur on Talking Cowboys, Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Kyle Yeoman's with you. Special shout out to

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Speaker 1: Chris Beam and William Boykins also in our podcast tent

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Speaker 1: holding it down and doing a great job throughout all

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Speaker 1: of the shows over the course of training camp. Some

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Speaker 1: of the hardest working people here. I would say, absolutely

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Speaker 1: without question, they're earning their three square meals. There are

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Speaker 1: they square? They're squares? Where pretty square? Okay, So we've

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Speaker 1: got some time now to answer some fan questions here

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Speaker 1: on fans on the fifty, I was complimenting Keen. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go, going right into your question. Jake asked,

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Speaker 1: have you seen Terrence Steele on the left side at all?

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Speaker 1: Reporting on Inseci and seeing his limited snaps against Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: is troubling in his opinion, hashtag Mickey who is the

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Speaker 1: swing tackle? Way don't know yet. It has not emerged

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Speaker 1: as a definitive person. Uh Nasecki struggled at left tackle

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Speaker 1: in the game against Pittsburgh unlimited time, Unlimited time and

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Speaker 1: you know, he's he's out there and you know he's

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Speaker 1: a veteran. They're not going to overdo it. But they

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Speaker 1: got to first and goal at the five and second

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Speaker 1: down and third down he missed his blocks. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, don't tell me, we're we're still here

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Speaker 1: with the camms, right, Cam Irving and Cam Fleming that

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Speaker 1: they've both hammed out. And so Steele has primarily played

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Speaker 1: right side on the second team at tackle, but he

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Speaker 1: did get some snaps on the left side. And then

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Speaker 1: the other problem there is you drafted a guy in

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Speaker 1: the fourth round, Josh Ball, and it sounds like he

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Speaker 1: must have a high ankle sprain because when McCarthy talked

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Speaker 1: about his ankle, he said, yeah, he'll probably be out

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. So normally, if it's just a

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Speaker 1: regular ankle sprain, usually it's not a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: So he said maybe Houston, Yeah maybe, but it didn't

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Speaker 1: sound he didn't sound hopeful. He said multiple weeks. And

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Speaker 1: he's he's been out for about a week now, yes, so,

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Speaker 1: and we haven't seen him. It's not like he's walking

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Speaker 1: out there watching practice. So he's getting you know, rehab therapy.

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Speaker 1: So the odds of him winning this job is pretty

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Speaker 1: remote at this point. And you know when and what

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Speaker 1: you're hoping is if they have to bring in another tackle,

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Speaker 1: that they protect that guy. And I don't just say okay,

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Speaker 1: you got the job like they started last year and

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Speaker 1: it's like, no, you got to put a tight end

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Speaker 1: over there. And then, to me, the answer I can

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Speaker 1: give the guy is, in my books, if something happens

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Speaker 1: to Tyran and else, Zack Martin's going out the tackle immediately, immediately.

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Speaker 1: I ain't waiting ten weeks before I put him out there,

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Speaker 1: right or however long they waited before they made that change.

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Speaker 1: And I think the reason they somewhat waited is they

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Speaker 1: still hadn't had confidence in mcgoverning to take care of

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Speaker 1: the guard spot. But once he came along and they said, okay,

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Speaker 1: look he's a better guard than whoever I'm putting out

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Speaker 1: at tackle, and so we can move Zach out there.

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Speaker 1: And so to me, that's the answer to the question

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Speaker 1: right now. I want to disagree with you, but my

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Speaker 1: answers in stone. It's on the website right now. That

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Speaker 1: was the mail bad question today and I said, same thing,

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Speaker 1: Zach is the best option. You know, if you especially

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Speaker 1: if we're talking about a long term absence, God forbid

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Speaker 1: at one of the tackle spots at some point in

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Speaker 1: the season. McCarthy didn't want to do it. Last year,

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Speaker 1: he finally did it, and you know what, the line

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Speaker 1: played its best that it had at any point in

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Speaker 1: that season. In the running game, there was about a

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Speaker 1: three game stretch where they were getting about one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty yards rushing per game before Zach got hurt

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Speaker 1: again on Thanksgiving, So that solid thinks because and give

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Speaker 1: credit to Connor McGovern because he stepped in it right

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Speaker 1: guard and did a nice job. So Mickey's right, it's

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Speaker 1: about kind of trying to get your best five out there,

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Speaker 1: and if you do have to change out two spots,

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Speaker 1: then fine. If we're if we're basing it off of

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Speaker 1: the current backup swing tackle options, I would still have

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Speaker 1: to give the edge to tightness sec he just based

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Speaker 1: on experience. You know, he's thirty six years old, he's

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Speaker 1: been doing this a long time. Tarre Steele, I think

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Speaker 1: is getting better. I think we've seen some things signs

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Speaker 1: that he's improving. But I would have to give the

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Speaker 1: edge to the veteran there but yeah, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: not setting Stone by any means. And then the other

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Speaker 1: guy that they've used is Brandon Knight, but only because

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Speaker 1: they were down a tackle. They needed another tackle to

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Speaker 1: help out, so they've moved him because he was getting them,

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Speaker 1: getting the majority of his snaps as a guard. They

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Speaker 1: were trying to give him a chance to make it

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Speaker 1: as a guard, and then when they lost ball, it

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Speaker 1: was like, Okay, we're short on tackles. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to take some snaps second or third team at tackle.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean, gosh, you know, last year

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Speaker 1: was just unbelievable that you were trying to exist at

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Speaker 1: the tackle position with an undrafted rookie and a second

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Speaker 1: year guy who had played basically two games in the

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Speaker 1: NFL previously gotten one start. Yeah, one start, right, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that's almost like throwing your hands up.

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Speaker 1: And a backup quarterba and a backup quarterback, and the

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Speaker 1: backup to the backup quarterback. It was a nightmare, a

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Speaker 1: nightmare for Kellen Moore. I'm sure I will I will say,

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Speaker 1: you know a couple of those two red zone trips

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Speaker 1: that Garrett Gilbert had a couple of those players. You

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Speaker 1: might you could nitpick and say you got to have

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Speaker 1: a clock in your head and get the ball out.

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Speaker 1: It's true, but yeah, the protection was not cleaning that game,

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Speaker 1: and it, honestly it got a little bit worse. I

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Speaker 1: think as they went down the depth chart at quarterback

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Speaker 1: in that game. One extra thing to Jake's point whenever

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Speaker 1: he said limited snaps for Tian Saki during the Pittsburgh game,

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Speaker 1: And I kind of mentioned this in passing, but I

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Speaker 1: looked further into it, and I know how we all

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Speaker 1: feel about Pro Football focus in their grades quote unquote

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Speaker 1: because they're not normally the best, but I still think

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Speaker 1: this says something about the game that Tian Saki had.

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Speaker 1: He had seven pass blocking snaps. His grade at the

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Speaker 1: end of the game was a zero point zero grade,

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Speaker 1: which means out of the seven snaps that he had,

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Speaker 1: he had the worst possible grade that you could potentially

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Speaker 1: have on PFF, which is saying something, yeah, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a struggle. And teren Steele, by the way, was a

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Speaker 1: sixty six point four in terms of and there was

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Speaker 1: one I think I think Gilbert took a three step drop.

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Speaker 1: But even if it's a three step drop, the guy

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Speaker 1: was on him steps. I agree, And then the other

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Speaker 1: time he didn't pick up the guy that was blitzing.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you're a veteran, you should know what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Got to know to be able to slide out. Then

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Speaker 1: you see that blitzing linebacker. I believe is what it was. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And you know when when you look at those things,

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Speaker 1: all you gotta do is look at to see how

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Speaker 1: much they got paid, because the contract will tell you

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Speaker 1: what they think. To the guy, I'm sorry, and he's

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Speaker 1: basically on a veteran minimum and he's thirty six years old,

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Speaker 1: so it's not like, Okay, he's making so much money.

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Speaker 1: We gotta keep him right. It's the same thing at

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Speaker 1: the safety position. Not to stray away, but most of

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Speaker 1: those guys they brought in, they're all on one year

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Speaker 1: deals for basically minimum with a minimum signing bonus. Look

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Speaker 1: just as much as they stuck with Terrence Steele last year,

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Speaker 1: you gotta think they feel like he can do this

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Speaker 1: eventually and get better and better. So you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: they may be crossing their fingers that he can just

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Speaker 1: continue to get better in these practices and win the job.

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Speaker 1: You know, as a second year guy that they've invested in.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. I mean, na Seki has way more experience,

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Speaker 1: and there they will keep an eye out. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: once the final cuts happen. The problem is, if you've

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Speaker 1: got a good backup tackle, he's not going anywhere. They

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Speaker 1: are hard to find, just you know, just off the couch.

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Speaker 1: I go back to Michael Irvin talking about the backup

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Speaker 1: tackle and he goes, can you just stand there and

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Speaker 1: let me count? One? Two three? That's all you gotta do, right,

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Speaker 1: One two three? Like that? And they couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if he was remarking about Chaz Green, who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, he was on that Pittsburgh roster. Is

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Speaker 1: he yes? Okay, Mickey, you mentioned the one year deals

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Speaker 1: for some of those guys in the secondary at safety.

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Speaker 1: Our next question, John asked, do we see Malie Hooker

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Speaker 1: in pads this week and potentially does he get some

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Speaker 1: snaps against the Cardinals on Friday. I can't imagine that

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Speaker 1: he would get one practice in pads and they'd throw

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Speaker 1: him in the game on Friday, because all they only

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Speaker 1: he hasn't done it yet, right, and the only chance

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Speaker 1: you got is Wednesday? Agree and he's coming off a

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Speaker 1: torn achilles so um, which, by the way, I was

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Speaker 1: watching Keyan O'Neill and Demante Kazy warming up for those

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Speaker 1: the practice against the Rams, and they were doing their

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Speaker 1: achilles stretching things. Still out there three guys that have

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Speaker 1: had that injury. Yeah, yeah, I mean he may they're

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Speaker 1: ramping him up. He didn't practice against the Rams, but

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Speaker 1: he's he's doing more field work and so if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't practice Wednesday, I would think he's back in there

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Speaker 1: on some level by the time they get back from

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Speaker 1: Oxnarn But yeah, I don't. I don't expect him to

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Speaker 1: play against Arizona. Sticking with the secondary Bluff City Cowboys

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Speaker 1: who always ask great questions. By the way, with the

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Speaker 1: close battle at the cornerback position, does special team's ability

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Speaker 1: give guys like c J. Goodwin an advantage over guys

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Speaker 1: fighting for the fifth and maybe sixth spots overall? CJ's

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Speaker 1: on this team as a special teams guy. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's listed as a corner but and he does take

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Speaker 1: some reps there, but he's he's basically a captain on

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Speaker 1: special teams. There is talk though, of Maurice Kennedy being

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Speaker 1: just as talented in terms of special teams were Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know, Maurice Kennedy has started games in the league.

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Speaker 1: It's a good point at cornerback, and I think maybe

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Speaker 1: people forget that a little bit. You know, he's been

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Speaker 1: mostly a reserve. But that being said, he's probably the

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Speaker 1: biggest surprise of camp. You know, take out CD and

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Speaker 1: just how spectacular he's been. I mean that doesn't really

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Speaker 1: not really a surprise, that's no expectation, but I mean

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Speaker 1: the level that he's been has been as unbelievable at times.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of a guy who's really jumped out

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Speaker 1: at you, yes, he's got to be right there. And

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Speaker 1: I think to answer the guy's question is don't coin CG, CG,

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Speaker 1: CJ in the number of corners you keep. He's in

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Speaker 1: a category of his own. It's special teams. You know,

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Speaker 1: you put him over there, uh, and then find the

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Speaker 1: next corner. So if you're looking at corners right now,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kennedy's probably the fourth guy in my books,

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Speaker 1: if you're looking at it from way, he's performed in

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Speaker 1: the slot, and he does have some special team skills. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Calvin Joseph is coming along. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know that he has shown out to the point where,

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Speaker 1: uh you know, he's the next man up at the

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Speaker 1: cornerback position. Who is one, two and three? You said

638
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: he's fourth. I just wanted to ask that, see who

639
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: you're one. So I still think it's it's it's uh

640
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: Dick Brown and George Lewis and and no challenge from Canna.

641
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: Well here's a well a little bit. But I think this.

642
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: They didn't play Jordan Lewis in the Hall of Fame game,

643
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: not at all. And he hasn't practice a ton either. Yeah,

644
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: but there's a reason he wasn't out there because I

645
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: think they just like Donovan Wilson. I think they think, Okay,

646
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: we know who they are, we got to find out

647
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: to find the next guy. Uh and and so um,

648
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: I think they're still And Jordan Lewis was back out

649
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: there working with the first team during the practice, held

650
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: his own and held his own so uh you know,

651
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: and they paid him a little bit of money, so

652
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: they got to see that one through. Um from a

653
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: salary cap standard, here's thirteen and a half million. Yeah,

654
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: so seven's trying to make this team as maybe the

655
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: next guy that can go in the slot. You know,

656
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: and Anthy Brown can play in the slot too, by

657
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: the way, he has started games there. So if somebody

658
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: gets hurt, you know, they can they can put him

659
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: in there, or Kennedy in there, or they can put

660
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: Brown in there if one of the other corners steps up.

661
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: But I don't know that Joseph or Nishan Wright have

662
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: stepped up enough to suggest they're the next guy up. Mickey, Mickey,

663
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: you're looking at it kind of what the depth chart

664
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: should look like week one, Yeah, September ninth, And I

665
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you, but if I'm ranking just based

666
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: off our eyes out here the cornerbacks, it's Trayvon Diggs

667
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: and then it's Maurice Kennedy for me, just in terms

668
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: of the plays he's made. And you know, if this

669
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: keeps up, I don't know how you keep him off

670
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: the field. And that's not to say Anthony Brown has

671
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: had a good camp. He's done some really nice things

672
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: out here. We haven't seen a lot of Jordan Lewis

673
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: because you know, he's been dealing with a little bit

674
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: of an injury. But you know, and Kelvin Joseph has flashed,

675
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Nashan Right has flashed a little bit. But Maurice Candy

676
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: makes a play in every practice. If it's not a pick,

677
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: he makes a play on the ball and from that

678
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: slap position. But they haven't played him outside. Well maybe

679
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: they don't have to, you know, maybe that's his role.

680
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: But what if one of those What I was looking

681
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: at is what if somebody outside gets hurt, who's the

682
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: next corner that's going in. It's probably Kelvin Joseph. Yeah,

683
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: but he needs to pick it up. You know, he

684
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: looks like a second round rookie right now. And Nashan

685
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: Wright it looks like a little final pick in the

686
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: third round rookie. Um. So the game, yeah, because this

687
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: guy was catching passes. It's a good point that we

688
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: kind of pulled that up during draft coverage. I think

689
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: when he faced Simi Phoko, it was like, oh, he

690
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: led the led organ state and tackles against Stanford. Oh wait,

691
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: it's because Semi Fajoko kind of torched him on multiple

692
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: occasions and he tackled him down the field a little

693
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: bit more, got to the end zone, right, yeah, tackle

694
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: game right? He performance in that game? Yeah? Uh, any

695
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: surprise veterans that need to have a big next couple

696
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: of weeks before roster trimmed downs surprise veterans. I mean

697
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: that's kind of I don't know about surprise. We mentioned

698
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: t a job is up for grabs based on what

699
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: we've seen. Um, that's a good question. I mean there's

700
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: no veteran that I mean, it's like, oh, if they

701
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: don't do this, they're getting cut. You know. The only

702
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: the only place I would think they're could be some

703
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: competition is the fourth and fifth wide receiver just from

704
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: a cap standpoint, and neither Noah Brown or Cedric Wilson

705
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: are making that much money. I think they're both at

706
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: like two million two point one, Yeah, two point one.

707
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: So it's not like you're gonna save a bunch of money.

708
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: You'll save a million, But that's not worth cutting somebody

709
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: for a cap reason. I just think there's been a

710
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: gap between four and five and then six, right, I

711
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: mean they've both been productive in camp, in the game,

712
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: special teams. Yeah, because the league turner will show up

713
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: and many you'll disappears appear the same thing with those

714
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: serious Mitchell. Yes, I mean overall those two have continued

715
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: to be consistent. These guys are chasing. Yeah, it's hard

716
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: to see either guy not making this team. So that's

717
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: other than that. I mean, there's no veteran on the

718
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: offense that's going to get knocked out of there, right, Well,

719
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: you've got all your starters returning, Yeah, I mean they're

720
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean you go down the depth chart, there's some

721
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback position, what you know, Yeah, but they're

722
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: not really veterans. Garret Gilbert has been around. He's still

723
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: competing against the rest of the league, right, you know,

724
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: and and I think he's had some good days lately

725
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: because somebody else would have to show up on a

726
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: waiver wire that got your attention, and you know that's

727
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: that's a couple of weeks away. With their budget too, Yeah,

728
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: with their butt their budget, which you have to factor in. Um,

729
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go down the roster and see, I

730
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: mean I think, you know, the safety position to me

731
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: is still interesting. You know, they signed Curse in the

732
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: off season. Yes, somebody in there is not gonna make it.

733
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: You know, what what do they do there? Israel Mquamu.

734
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: You know, I would think makes this team. But how

735
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: many safeties can you keep? You know that that's an

736
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: interesting spot too, Yeah, because think about it. I mean,

737
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: if if you went low on safeties, Kean O'Neil can

738
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: still move back there and play right good. But can

739
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: you keep Kazy Curse and Malite Cooker I guess, and

740
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: then Donovan Wilson and Mukuamo who I guess you can?

741
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: He can flex, he could positions? Is that five that

742
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: I just yes? Read off five? So you can keep

743
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: five safeties and they got to wait on corners. You

744
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: keep it, and they're gonna have to wait on Hooker

745
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: to see what he can do. I mean, it's no

746
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: joke coming back from that rupture Achilles. No, after taking

747
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: time off and not really having an offseason working on

748
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: your own. Yeah, I mean coming in and having training

749
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: camp would be nice. But like you said and we

750
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: answered in the first question, it's not really uh not

751
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: really possible for him to maybe get out there at

752
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: least during the camp portion that's in Oxnard. And obviously

753
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: the numbers that inside a defensive tackle are strong. But

754
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, they have that option to just keep him

755
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: on pup to start the season. I think they're gonna

756
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: keep him in there hip pocket, so you know, it's

757
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: not a situation where, oh he might get cut they can,

758
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: they can keep him on pup um. I don't ready.

759
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why. And I want to bring this

760
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: up because I don't think this would happen, But I

761
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people listening would maybe initially

762
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: their first thought would be a guy like Jalen Smith.

763
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: There's no way that happens until later down the road,

764
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if it ever happens. Yeah, I mean, he's

765
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: a starter. I agree. Okay, was he perfect last year? No,

766
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: but he made one hundred and fifty some tackles and

767
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: and I see him more engaged this year, meaning he

768
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: doesn't look like the independent contractor I would I thought

769
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: he was. He's he's mingling with the team, he's he's

770
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: patent guys on the back. He's being more of a

771
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: leader instead of just being out there. So yeah, and

772
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: now the only thing he's got to do is when

773
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: they're down thirty to seven and he makes a big

774
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: tackle and he does his little swipe thing. It's like,

775
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 1: don't be celebrated your tackle in the context of what's

776
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: going on with the team. There was an interesting point

777
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: in the practice that we saw against the Rams, and

778
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: we had actually had a replay of it because I

779
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: thought it was so intriguing, but he made a really

780
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: nice read on a run play. Darryl Henderson was rolling

781
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: out to the right on a little sweep and Jalen

782
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: Smith blewed up at the line of scrimmage might have

783
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: been a tackle for loss, and he kind of kept

784
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: running and he looked like he was gonna do the

785
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: whole swipe. He even I mean, oh, he stopped and

786
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: then even he just paused. He put his hands out,

787
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: and then he walked away. I don't know if that's

788
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: a sign to come or if that's just him thinking, oh,

789
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: it's practice. But at the same time, maybe it was

790
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: a sign of saying, maybe the swipe is in the review,

791
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: and he's playing way of saying selective swiping, selective swiping,

792
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: and and he's playing the position he should be in.

793
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: It's middle linebacker. He's not a weak side linebacker. Well, look,

794
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: can't run and cover a running back or a tight end.

795
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but when they opened up in

796
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: their defense first snap against the Steelers, they had three linebackers.

797
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: US did yeah, and he want three plays, Laden vander Esh,

798
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, Michael Parsons, And they're not going to do that.

799
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: All the time, you know, and they've got enough enough

800
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: versatility with the linebackers that they don't have to use

801
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: him on the nickel if they don't want, like if

802
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: it's a just definite passing situation, you know, he doesn't

803
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: have to be out there now. If they want to

804
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: play nickel and and it's still like second and you know,

805
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: short or something, they can leave him out there against

806
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: the run. I want to see him going forward. I

807
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: don't want to see him going backwards like a middle linebacker.

808
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: That's where you can do that. One other position. If

809
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about veterans, you know, what do they do

810
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: at tight end? You know, Jeremy Sprinkle they signed him

811
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: to be, you know, kind of that belldozer role. Sean

812
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: mckun continues to make plays and he's no belldozer. Well,

813
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that. You know, the thing is, if

814
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: Sean mccun steps in, is the third tight end, because

815
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: that's the way things maybe progressing based on what we've

816
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: seen out here, how do they use that? What does

817
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: that mix look like? And and a lot of Louit

818
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 1: at fullback could be an interesting fourth tight end slash

819
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: extra running back h back do a little bit of everything. Now,

820
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: if indeed that neck injury is not significant, go ahead.

821
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: And we just found out that he's got a neck

822
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: injury and it looked like it was going to take

823
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: some time. So we'll find out maybe more about that.

824
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: That cropped up when Sunday and we hadn't I asked

825
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy about it. It came out of the game.

826
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, yess he wasn't. I didn't see him out

827
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: there against the Rams now, so I don't think he was.

828
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: And Sprinkle, you know, for the body type he is,

829
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: he's not what I thought he'd be, you know. And

830
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: and he's he doesn't look like a guy that's going

831
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: to do a lot of blocking for you. And your

832
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: third tie in has to do some blocking and be

833
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: able to get down the field and McKean has showed

834
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: some ability to do that and he benefited from the

835
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: time he got to play last year. It plays down

836
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: the field as a pass cat. Ye, yes, a couple

837
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: different times. So yes, And I don't look at I

838
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: mean what year Sprinkle he was signed as a as

839
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: a run block. That's that's really where he's made his

840
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: money in the NFL. Six year guy, Yeah, something like

841
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: that fifth. Yeah, it's your guy. I guess that makes

842
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: him a veteran. Sure, I mean it's more of a

843
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: veteran than Sean mckin. But I'm sure what did he

844
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: sign a one year deal for millium? Yep, not a

845
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: ton of money to trying to throw some names to

846
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: get some guys to be surprise cuts. All right, let's

847
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Speaker 1: I say Oxnard? Yeah, okay, I'm in Frisco. See Oxnard's

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Speaker 1: on the brain because you want to stay here. And

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Speaker 1: the weather is so fantastic. I mean, I'm wearing long

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Speaker 1: sleeves and pants and it's for or what is it

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Speaker 1: eleven o'clock now. So my friends took me up to

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Speaker 1: dinner last night and we ate outdoors. Nice downtown Ventura. Wow,

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Speaker 1: tells you how nice it. I didn't get an invite.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. It's been cold at night too, fog rolling

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's been. It's been not Texas. Did

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Speaker 1: you know? Did you know have you been to Ventura

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Speaker 1: yet this year? No? They have blocked off main Street.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a pedestrian walkway now because they have

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Speaker 1: allowed sort of like they've done other places, They've allowed

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Speaker 1: outdoor seating. That's great. That's a great little area. Yeah. There.

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Speaker 1: It reminded me of how cool it is out there

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Speaker 1: because Ventura, by the way, I'll give you a little

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Speaker 1: travel report here. Uh, it's like we're going to a

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Speaker 1: full hour today. It's like it's like in a it's

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Speaker 1: like in a nineteen seventies time warp. That old downtown there,

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Speaker 1: which they should not spoil. Uh, just kind of keep

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Speaker 1: it that way. Don't bring in a bunch of condos.

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Speaker 1: And uh, they've got local business. This is their places. Daughter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's not fired like it's three blocks from the

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Speaker 1: water and it's just it's just a great little downtown.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Costner's hometown, is it really yes? Wow, he came

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Speaker 1: to practice a few years ago. He had a place,

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Speaker 1: and I think it was in Carpentiera, which is right

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Speaker 1: next to Ventura before you get to Santa Barbara. He had,

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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, I think one year. The

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Speaker 1: Joneses state that at his house. One year he was

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Speaker 1: in town with his band playing while we were out here.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Costner, Yes, it might. It might have been at

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Speaker 1: the county the county fair. Yeah, that's so cool. And

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Speaker 1: they didn't have a county fair this year. He's robbed

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Speaker 1: Phillips on Kyle Yoman's this is talking Ventura here on

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Speaker 1: Dallas couch dot com. Um, what are some of the

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Speaker 1: things that we're looking forward to this week. I mean,

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Speaker 1: of course, the preseason game is Friday. It's a really

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Speaker 1: slow week compared to what we have had here in Oxnard.

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Speaker 1: Just the one padded or we think it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a padded practice on Wednesday, and they've only had

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Speaker 1: five so far, correct, five or six? I bet if

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Speaker 1: it is padded it'll be a lighter one lighter playing

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Speaker 1: on on Friday. Um, what is something you need to

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Speaker 1: see from this team this week going into well And

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Speaker 1: we haven't talked about this except for him being a

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Speaker 1: pedestrian watching Um, just where Dak Prescott is. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I got a better understanding of his injury, how it occurred, uh,

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Speaker 1: and where it exactly is. And UM, so I could

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Speaker 1: use Rob for my my model here today, don't it?

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Speaker 1: But it's I'll do it on his left arm instead

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Speaker 1: of his right arm. But the muscle he heard is

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Speaker 1: right here. Okay. So there's a back muscle that comes

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Speaker 1: up like this and there's a little ring of it

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Speaker 1: and it ends up underneath your armpit. And evidently when

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Speaker 1: and I remember seeing the throw, he had a weird

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Speaker 1: like hill Mary throw where he threw the ball sky high,