WEBVTT - Matrix of White Supremacy 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:14.360 Good morning, keeps, and welcome to will Kate f Daily 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:19.919 with Meet your Girl. Daniel Moody recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:27.360 I'm not going to sugarcoat I am struggling, as I 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.760 know that many of you are struggling right now. I 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.000 am struggling to make sense of nonsense. I am struggling 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:52.760 to find the energy to overcome the considerable amount of death, destruction, despair, genocide, hopelessness, 0:00:54.400 --> 0:01:02.080 depravity that we are consuming daily. I put out a 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:07.039 couple of TikTok videos this week for the first of 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:12.000 the new year, because honestly, I haven't had the energy. 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:17.760 I haven't had the energy to be angry, because a 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:27.039 kind of numbness has washed over me following the holidays. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.000 As many of you know, I lost a very dear 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:36.120 friend at the end of last year, and so I 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:41.360 have been challenged in terms of reconciling with that reality. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:49.360 At the same time also trying to reconcile with the 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:56.800 reality that there are a considerable amount of human beings 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:04.680 that are absolutely fucking depraved, that lack no moral compass, 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:13.320 no sense of humanity, of our shared humanity, that are 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:22.000 literally cheering and applauding death. You know, I say this 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:27.840 often because you know, as the years progressed, you can't 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.519 help but reflect right on where you've come, how much 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:38.720 you've learned, god willing, how much you've changed. And you know, 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:43.760 I can remember so clearly sitting in my middle school 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:49.440 auditorium where we were all gathered I want to say 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.720 it was either seventh or eighth grade or so to 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:59.200 watch Shindler's List, because it was that time where we 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:05.520 were learning about World War Two. And you know, Shindler's 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:07.920 List is like one of those films that you really 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:11.880 only need to see one time. Right, It is heartbreaking, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.600 it is devastating, and then when you learn as a 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:20.359 young person that this is not fiction, right, this happened, 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:27.520 it becomes really hard to digest. Because you're taught, right, 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:33.600 at least most of us, right from wrong, you know, 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:39.720 good from bad, nice from evil, so on and so forth, 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:46.160 and so I can remember, you know that there was 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:51.960 always something about World War Two and the Holocaust that 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:58.960 stuck with me more so than any of the other 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:04.200 wars that I would learn about. And you know, Vietnam 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:10.800 I would really come to a clearer understanding much later 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.240 in life, and thankfully, as my sister would live there 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.279 for over a decade to be able to see history 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:22.560 through somebody else's lens, right, other than what we're fed 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:23.560 in the United States. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.919 But the Holocaust and. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:38.080 Going to the Holocaust Museum, understanding that the world sat 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:50.120 by as six million people were savagely brutally murdered, and 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:54.840 I couldn't understand how that could be. And it was 0:04:55.360 --> 0:05:09.279 similarly with slavery and white people buying human beings that walk, 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.640 that talk, that speak, that have brains, that have babies, 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.560 that have feelings, and literally on your way to go 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.359 buy a new pat or pick up a carton of 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:25.359 eggs that you're walking past, human beings that are naked 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:32.800 put up on butcher blocks for you to choose from. 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:43.680 I don't understand the depravity that human beings are capable of. 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:52.440 It is so I realize why I feel so destabilized 0:05:52.560 --> 0:06:00.120 right now. I'm both managing personal grief and loss, yes, 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:18.160 while managing collective grief and loss. We've learned nothing, and 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:23.840 it's not even the fault right of us, mere citizens, 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:29.960 mere mortals inside of this matrix of greed and capitalism 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:38.760 and imperialism and extraction and patriarchy, because we haven't been 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:47.760 given the full story. The wall was put over our 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:54.799 eyes to hold up America as some type of beacon. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:06.120 Bring me, you're tired, you're and you're poor. Unless they 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:12.760 are brown, unless they are black, unless they don't assimilate, 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.720 unless we don't see. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:17.200 Them as human. 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:30.880 Everything about this country, and frankly, global imperialism has a 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:38.920 fucking asterisk. And it's like the more that I learn, 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:44.720 the more that I have access to, the more destabilized 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:54.200 I feel. The fact is that the maga supremacist neo 0:07:54.400 --> 0:08:03.640 fascist movement wants us stabilized in their life, talked quietly 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:16.160 and obediently, in their matrix of white supremacy. Where we 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:23.280 are right now, is that not only by virtue of 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:29.280 watching a genocide take place in real time inside of 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:36.079 Gaza at the hands of Israel forces, is that the 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:41.600 world is collectively waking up and saying, wait a minute, how. 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:45.040 Fucking long has this been going on? Wait a minute, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:53.199 who's been funding this? I thought it was a democracy. 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.040 This doesn't look like any democracy I know, but it 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:09.880 looks like something eerily from familiar. You can't uphold the 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:17.280 idea of courageous, brave men and women fighting for democracy 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:22.440 at home and abroad and see videos and images like 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:27.920 what is coming out of Gaza. You can uphold and say, oh, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:32.400 but Netanyahu is our friend, but Putin is our enemy. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:41.640 But they both doing the same fucking thing. So how 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:54.440 we reconcile this upside down, broken, wide open reality that 0:09:54.480 --> 0:10:04.360 we are in right now is destabilizing because right and 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:13.920 wrong we were taught should be very clear, banning books wrong, 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:31.400 denying people housing wrong. But as it turns out, we've 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:39.200 been living in a state of gray. Our tax dollars 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:44.720 use to fund all types of genocides, all types of war. 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:56.920 We wonder why the world is so unstable right now, Well, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:01.400 let's look at all of the unnecessary interventions that the 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:05.680 United States and the United Kingdom and others have done 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:16.840 in regions in order to extract uranium, diamonds, oil. Who 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.560 gives a fuck about the people on top of the land. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.840 We'll just put people in power, like we're playing one 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:34.760 big global game of monopoly. Who will do our bidding? Well, folks, 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.559 why are we in the place that we're in right now? 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:44.199 Because the chickens have come home to roost? Because these 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:56.280 white men, greedy, wealthy, powerful white men can't run from 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:10.720 the lie fast enough anymore. Right, everything's been broken open. Sure, 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.600 there is a lot of misinformation out there, but folks, 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.600 there's a lot of fucking information out there too. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.240 So if we want to know, you can know. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.480 Ain't nobody stopping you, not here, not on this great 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:36.200 Internet right now. But I tell you that if the 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:40.160 neo fascist Maga supremacy have their way, not only are 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:45.920 they controlling your uteruses, they're controlling your access to every 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.920 kind of information. Where the United States will look like 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.719 China as it pertains to what you can know and 0:12:55.800 --> 0:13:01.600 not know, it will look like the thought police in 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:12.280 nineteen eighty four. We are in the midst of an 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:28.079 extraordinarily chaotic reckoning, and we have to decide who we 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:36.400 are going to be on the other side today. You're 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.280 gonna hear me in my interview with Jonathan I am 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:46.520 exhausted when we tape this. I'm exhausted. I was feeling 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.400 hopeless and frustrated. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:49.880 I've rested since. 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:56.880 But I play this for you because I want you 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:01.360 to know that I too, vacillate greatly between the energy 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:05.880 that I have to mount a resistance to change, how 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.240 I resist and how I show up and some days, 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:15.240 I don't want to show up at all. But the 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.760 fact is that what we are seeing right now has 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:29.560 been going on for a millennia. The question is whether 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:35.920 or not we want to be a part of creating 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:40.000 the breaking open of the transparency, of the authenticity, of 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:50.040 the honesty, so that we can help the next generations 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:54.160 create something better than the shit that we are in 0:14:54.360 --> 0:15:06.080 right now. But I urge every one of us to 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:11.600 start asking questions of ourselves about what we thought was 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:22.359 true and what actually is, to educate ourselves to expand 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:29.920 beyond what is, because what is was created for the 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:38.320 benefit of a small group of people, a couple of 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:45.760 countries that then get it, got to dictate to everyone else. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:58.320 Everything is changing, everything is upside down, But the fact 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:04.160 is it has never been really right side up. We're 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:12.600 just now tilting our heads, rubbing our eyes and seeing 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:21.360 things clearer than we ever have before. Information education is power. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:27.720 What we do with it is going to determine who 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:31.800 we become, not just ten months from now with our election, 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:39.040 but collectively as humanity. Coming up next, my conversation with 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:43.359 our friend, our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel. 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:48.480 Folks. 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.320 Whenever we have the opportunity each week to sit down 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.760 with our in house doctor who now I'm just going 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.960 to start asking for medication from uh. 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.160 Doctor Jonathan Metzel. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:06.919 I am always so please, and Jonathan, Iowa caucuses have happened, Uh, 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:12.000 Donald Trump head and shoulders above the rest of the 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:17.359 Republican clown car with fifty one percent of the vote 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.600 coming in second a scant second Rond De Santis and 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.840 then Nikki Haley. But Jonathan, let me tell you that 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:30.240 I was watching interviews that MSNBC was doing with folks 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:36.000 on the ground in Iowa, and this one gentleman, a 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:43.159 whitey self avowed white evangelical Christian, said that, you know, 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:48.840 God uses interesting tools in order to get his message 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:53.080 and point across, and Donald Trump is that interesting tool. 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:57.760 But he is with him all the way. Donald Trump 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.600 left Iowa and is now a courtroom in New York 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:08.800 City while we record this for defamation of the woman 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.879 that he was found guilty of raping, Egene Carroll. 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.679 And I am just I'm at a loss. 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:18.880 And I basically put up a tweet and said, wake 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.960 me up in like mid November when this election will 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:25.080 be decided and Donald Trump will become president again. Because 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.400 that's what these people want, that's what America wants, and 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:32.520 so I don't know what we're doing anymore. 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:37.280 So please, well, I'm glad we're having this conversation, and 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:41.160 let's have it, even if it means keeping you awake 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:45.480 until November. Please, because it's so important. So I'll say 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.600 my main thought was that I'm not surprised because I'm 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:53.680 in Tennessee. I'm in a red state, and my I 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.879 guess my frustration. I don't mean to say this to 0:18:55.960 --> 0:19:00.320 disparage anybody in any way, but if you live in 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:04.520 a blue state or you just watch MSNBC, you can't 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:08.800 imagine why one person would vote for Trump, right because MSNBC, 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.320 I mean it's great, like I love MSNBC, but it's 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:18.719 been like NonStop coverage of the legal troubles and you know, 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.240 they call him the twice in peach, ninety seven times 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.080 indicted former, blah blah blah, and all this kind of stuff, 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.560 Like it's just like, why in the world would anybody 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:29.359 vote for this guy? And so what you get on 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.240 MSNBC or from you know, liberal Twitter and stuff like that, 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:37.480 even after Iowa last night, was all of that stuff. 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.639 But you don't understand I think fully how deep the 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.520 bond is between Trump and his voters. You don't understand totally. 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.480 I mean maybe legally is a way, but you don't 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.800 understand like what would it mean to beat Trump? Or 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.200 what's blah blah blah, you know that kind of stuff 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.240 like you get. So I just think that there's been 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.400 an echo chamber for Democrats that I hope was shattered 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.000 last night, which was why in the world would anybody 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:01.840 vote for this guy? Or I think there was kind 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:07.840 of a subconscious fantasy that the GOP was going to implode, 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.520 like this guy's not electable. Well, hey, guess what. This 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:15.959 guy's really electable. You know, he's really charismatic, he's really 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.600 grievance oriented and more than anything else. And you see 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.679 this if you're in the South. He's promising something to 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.399 his voters. He's promising them power, right, which is like 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:32.440 Spanish fly for long aggrieved conservatives who you know, they're 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.240 not really that agrieved, but that's their narrative. And so 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.680 he's promising them power. He's saying, elect me, and I'm 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.359 going to have power for me and power for you. 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.240 And you feel it if you're down here in a 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:45.320 red state, and you just don't get that sense. You know, 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:51.000 if you're in a liberal information network, it's all like 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.840 Trump's in court and Trump is this, and Trump is indicted, 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:57.080 and Trump's impeached. But you don't see a point that 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.000 I think other people who study fascism, like Jason Stanley, 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.560 for example, I've been making very well, which is all 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.280 this stuff about Trump being a criminal and blah blah blah, 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:08.720 it doesn't it doesn't speak to the power of Trump, 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.520 and it's really powerful. Right, you actually need to bring 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:13.640 your a game right now to beat Trump. I mean, 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.439 I think that's kind of it. And so Trump is 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.040 promising power, which is the message that people down here 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:22.560 want to hear. And they're not going to be convinced 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:26.680 like all this moralizing about his being a rapist which 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:31.200 he is, and indicted which he is, and impeach rec 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:33.560 is all that kind of stuff. It's just it's not 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.359 like you're going to shake people's faith in that. Right. 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:39.840 Trump is the nominee, and he's more powerful now than 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.240 he was when he left office, and he's more powerful 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:46.040 than he was before. So what's your strategy? Right, what's 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:50.320 your strategy? And the question then becomes what is Biden 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:54.000 promising Not so much like something abstract, but like, what's 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:59.359 the offensive message? What's Brden promising his voters that counters 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:04.640 that message that enables his coalition? And I just think 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.879 the other guy sucks is not a strong enough offensive message. 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.600 That's my personal feeling, like you actually have to promise 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:14.280 something tactile to your base that mobilizes your base, and 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.400 in a way, that's what you see Trump doing now. 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.880 And so I hope last night was a wake up call. 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:24.040 There's plenty of time to write the ship. But Biden 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.400 or whoever, I just think saving democracy is a really 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:35.360 abstract concept when you're facing an organized, unified, energized opponent 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:37.560 that is promising something tactile to people. 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:42.120 I mean, here's the thing, And I agree with everything, 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.200 everything that you're saying, and I don't think that I 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:49.120 will ever understand one. I live in a blue state too, 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:51.600 because of the news that I watched, But three because 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:56.560 I just I think that I don't care to understand 0:22:56.560 --> 0:23:02.000 white grievance, and I think that that is that's my issue. 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:05.919 I don't care, And frankly, I have come to a 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:08.920 place and this is where I hope that a majority 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:12.639 of Democrats didn't wake up this week too, because I 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.480 don't think that it's going to be helpful. But I 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.880 offer it at this moment because I know that I'm 0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:22.520 not alone. I'm over it, right, Like, I don't know, 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:26.040 I honestly, Jonathan, I don't know what the message is 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:27.320 that Biden can offer. 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:27.920 I have no. 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:32.000 Idea Because if a man that has been found guilty 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:35.199 of rape, that has stolen things from this country, that 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.760 has enriched himself, that has done all of these things 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:41.320 that we know to be true, that I still have 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:46.080 to mount a you know, a herculean effort in order 0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.760 to defeat I'm like, fuck it, let them have the country, 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:51.200 you know what I'm saying. Like That's how I woke 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:54.199 up today, where I'm just like, so, what are we 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:55.840 doing for the next ten months? 0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:56.440 Right? 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.600 Like are we who are we trying to convince? Because 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:04.240 I can't convince people who literally said on television on 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.879 camera that they believe that Donald Trump is being used 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:12.200 by God, right Like I cannot convince people who believe 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.679 that Donald Trump has been said by Jesus Christ in 0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:19.560 order to right America's wrongs. So I'm at a loss. 0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:22.080 I mean, those are the people who get on social media. 0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:26.399 Those are the people who get on If you just say, 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:28.840 I'm a college educated voter and Trump is going to 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:31.480 restore power, he's going to improve the economy. You don't 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:34.400 get on social media. But a lot of college educated 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:40.280 people are becoming Trump supporters, right, And so it's bigger 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:44.640 than the honestly lunatics who get on the media. 0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:46.720 I'm not even saying that they're crazy. 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.639 No, But the thing is, you know, Democrats have a 0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:54.040 bigger coalition. Democrats could easily beat Trump. It's not even close. 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:58.120 Democrats could easily beat Trump with the coalition that they have. 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.920 It just means pulling together that coalition, like Democrats beat 0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:05.240 Trump last time using that coalition. So if the Democratic 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:09.000 coalition shows up, this is not going to be a contest. 0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.520 But I would also say, I mean, I've been saying 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:16.120 this on your show for three years now, that Democrats 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.639 fall into a trap of I mean, think about it 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:23.360 from the perspective of the South, Like the main trauma 0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:28.440 in this part of the country is not I mean, 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.080 I hate to say this, but this is what I researched. 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:35.119 It's not slavery, it's not anti semitism, it's not related 0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.439 to gender. It's like losing the Civil War. And so 0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.480 Trump is promising to like a certain segment of the 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:45.600 population that we're going to relitigate the Civil War. And 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:47.600 I've been trying to say this for years, and like 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.439 my book was going to be called How We Lost, 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.680 it was going to be called The War of Southern Aggression. 0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:56.719 I got rejected by thirty publishers because everybody was like, nah, nah, 0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:59.080 that's not how it works. But that is what Trump 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.680 is tapping into, which is re litigating the Civil War 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:05.919 in a way that has great implications, if for the South, 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:11.840 and really catastrophic implications for Blue states. Honestly, if you 0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:15.000 think Trump is voison a vengeance against places like New 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:19.080 York in his last presidency, like they, I mean, what's 0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:22.159 happening with like the buses of immigrants and all this 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:26.520 kind of stuff, It's it's just a warm up for 0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.800 this idea of kind of refighting the Civil War in 0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:31.960 a way that the South will rise again and stuff 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:33.920 like that, which sounds like a trope, but I can 0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.440 just say that's what he's that's what he's tapping into, 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:41.400 and so Democrats can, honestly, democrats can beat that with 0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:45.640 their coalition. Right, they have a very broad coalition, They 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:50.000 have labor, they have all these different constituencies, they have 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:54.280 people in many places. And the presidential election also comes 0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:57.359 down to just a number of states. Right, Blue states 0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:01.400 are blue, Red states are rat and red. Mobilize that coalition. 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.120 But the problem with the Democrats right now is, as 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.840 you're suggesting, there's no kind of energy around the message. 0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:12.280 And so that's what needs to change, like yesterday, last night, 0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:15.760 this morning, that needs to change. What's the energy around 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:19.800 the around the message? Right, Democrats are promising a better 0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.320 deal for a lot of people, but it's going to 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:26.400 take like a mobilizing mobilizing that message. And that's honestly 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.879 what needs to happen right right right now. 0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:35.119 I mean, look. 0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:41.280 Again, I go back to saying, I don't know how 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:46.040 you combat the South will rise again. I don't know 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:51.560 how you combat, Like my vengeance is your vengeance, and 0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:54.240 I'm going to restore white power to America. 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:55.399 I don't know. 0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:59.879 I don't think that the coalition that came out for Biden, 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.760 and mind you, I just want people to understand and 0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.760 I think people who listen to WOKF know this. That 0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.639 coalition didn't come out for Biden. They came out for themselves. 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:14.840 No one put in a fucking vote for Joe Biden 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.679 in twenty twenty because they love Joe Biden, not a 0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:21.240 fucking person. And this is the problem that we are 0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.479 up against, is that we don't have an Obama, we 0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:28.199 don't have a Clinton. We don't have somebody who like 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.760 who people actually love and come hell or high water, 0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.000 will do what is necessary to get done. What you 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:39.760 have is somebody that most people don't really like, not 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.360 because like he's a bad person, right well, to some 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:45.719 extent at this point, a lot of people actually do 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.200 think that he's a bad person, but because they think 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.000 that he's old, because he's a relic of the past, 0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.239 because he's just not an energizer. And so when you 0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.240 look at that up against people where Donald Trump told 0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.920 people in Iowa, go ahead, I know it's forty one 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.080 degrees below, but if you die, you know at least 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:06.440 you will have done something worth doing. And they cheered 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:06.760 at that. 0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:07.480 Yep. 0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:09.080 So I'm like, so, so. 0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:18.800 We're combating a mindset that is so resolute in their 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:23.880 commitment to Donald Trump and their commitment to white power 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.600 and the South Rising again, I don't under I don't 0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:34.240 really see here, which and mind you, before Israel and Gaza, 0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:38.000 I would have told you that Biden needed to go 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:43.520 into freedoms and rights and democracy and but more so 0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:48.200 not even democracy, but rights right because that's what people understand. 0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.200 People understand when their rights are taken away, when their 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.560 rights are limited. They get that. They understand. I was 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.960 able to get an abortion one day, Now I'm not. 0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.360 I was able to vote one day, now I'm not. 0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:09.800 This coalition is so distraught for so many different reasons. 0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:15.240 For the older people, young people, they're all coming to 0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:19.000 the table with different grievances that they're laying at the 0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:24.040 feet of this administration, and because they're not coalesced around 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:28.640 a man that they love. This is the problem, is 0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:34.760 that we're battling with real resolute emotion and we're trying 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.840 to match it with stats and figures and facts, which 0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:40.560 is what you and I talk about all the time. 0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.960 That just doesn't it's not going to meet people in 0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:43.680 the same way. 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:49.080 I mean, you know what I've, as you know, been 0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:53.600 saying for some time that you know, there were facts 0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.840 that led to Biden's election in twenty twenty that we 0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:00.280 misread and renominating Biden. I still feel that way, right, 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:06.040 I mean, remember Trump mishandled the pandemic. He debated sweating 0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.320 while he had COVID, Like, there are all these things 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:12.880 that just aren't going to replace them replay themselves. So I, 0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.520 as you know, I've thought this was a misread for 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.640 a long time now. That being said, you know that 0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:22.440 old joke about like the psychiatrist and the light bulb, 0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:25.880 and it's like when the light bulb really wants to change, 0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:29.320 that's when they changed a lot. Yes, and so the 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.240 thing is like, again, the Democrats can easily win this 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.960 election if they're scared enough about the alternative and they 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.920 feel like there's enough in it for them, if Biden 0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:46.280 wins and so and so it's not like it's helpless. Right. 0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:50.200 The thing that is should not be surprising anybody is 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.760 that Trump supporters haven't changed. They've been exactly while we've 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:57.720 all been watching MSNBC. They've felt exactly this way. 0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:02.360 Every day for eight years, for eight years, and. 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.160 So it shouldn't be a surprise. It's just that we've 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:08.960 been watching MSNBC with like the impeachment trial and blah blah, 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:10.480 da da da dah. But the thing is they have 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.680 never changed, right, they have never changed, and so in 0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:15.520 a way, I just don't think that should be a 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.600