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Speaker 1: Welcome to It's up there Podcasts. I am You're active

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Speaker 1: thank you everybody for being here. You always show me support. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's nothing like y'all round of applause for my mother supporters.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it all way real with each other. Man.

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Speaker 1: We're dealing with cultural momentum right now. Man, Thank y'all

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Speaker 1: And thank god that real nick or eating this industry

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Speaker 1: This is how it works for it Up There podcast.

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Speaker 1: I know some of y'all have listened to the experience

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Speaker 1: with Little Baby. That's my second show that I've created

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Speaker 1: in this space, man, as we plan on running media

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Speaker 1: and everyone knows that Loan fields as though he's gonna

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Speaker 1: I know y'all really don't know me. You're here to

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Speaker 1: over there. We did drop the Little Baby interview right

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Speaker 1: like one hundred Black Men and National Urban League. State

426
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Speaker 1: Farm provides high school students with the opportunity to learn

427
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Speaker 1: and apply best practice strategies for saving and investing, all

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Speaker 1: while offering academic support, life skills, and exposure to college

429
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Speaker 1: access programs to prepare these students for life after high school.

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Speaker 1: Check out one hundred block, mean dot org and and

431
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Speaker 1: ul dot org to donate and learn more like a

432
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Speaker 1: good neighbor, State farm is there forty and getting number

433
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: one on Apple Music and moving through the charts. So again,

434
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: this is a weird place we're in in regards to

435
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: the judgeing of these things. These rules are constantly changing.

436
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: But on the heels of that and the baby saying

437
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: he was blackballed, not bad for black ball baby to

438
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: do ten seventeen thousand, and this is dub baby we're

439
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: speaking about. You know, Russ basically came in and said, Yo,

440
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: the black balling thing is a fluke. Let's listen to

441
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of what he said. You get it,

442
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Speaker 1: You get it. If you don't, you're an idiot. Yeah.

443
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: Shout out to the fans, Shot out to Kaitlin, Shout

444
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: out to TikTok. This is insane, independently wild. So if

445
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: you're looking at the screen, I just want to give

446
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: my two cents on something in the industry. No artist

447
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: is black baller. Lets you cut your WiFi off, remove

448
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: your social media accounts, take your music to go off.

449
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: All streaming platforms, you are not black balled. If your

450
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: familys you still can tell your fans, hey, I'm putting

451
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: out music, then you're not black ball Fans will listen

452
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: to your music or they won't. It's that simple. Also,

453
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: if you're a famous artist and you need playlists in

454
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: order for people to listen to your music, how real

455
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: are your fans? Why don't they support you regardless? We're

456
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: giving too much credit and power to DSPs and not

457
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: enough power to us, the artists and the fans. I know,

458
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: for me, as long as I can tell my fans

459
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: I'm putting out music, I'm straight. I'm not entitled to

460
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: any playlist, nor do I need them for my fans

461
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: to listen to my music. That's why they're my fans

462
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: laughing emoji. Then he put I just found out I

463
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: am not on Rap Cavard Today's Top Hit Hit, so

464
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: I retract that I am black balled. Every established artist,

465
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: I just got to update. If we are not on

466
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Speaker 1: Rap Cavard Today's Top Hits, where are being black balled?

467
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: Every song we drops needs to be on those playlists

468
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Speaker 1: or else we're black balled. Of course, he's being condescended

469
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Speaker 1: at this point, so we're gonna look at a little

470
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: bit of this him talking to the fans about his

471
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: opinion about being blackballed. Let's take a look I bought

472
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: from Hollywood. That means you're no more movies because no

473
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: one's giving you a job, no one's hiring you. You

474
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: can't be blackballed as a recording musician. As a recording artist,

475
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: if your music, your work, your product, it's still out everywhere,

476
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: it's still available everywhere. I am curious, like I want

477
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: to say it. It's just gonna come on rough it.

478
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. It's not your god given right to

479
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Speaker 1: use another company's platform to attract new fans. I don't

480
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: know what's so hard about that to grasp. For y'all.

481
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: If Walmart decides to sell my music, that's awesome. If

482
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Speaker 1: they decide to put me on their top album shelf,

483
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: that's also awesome. If they then take me off the

484
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: top album shelf sucks for me. But it's not my

485
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: god given right to be on top albums. This, it's

486
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: just not. It's just not. I don't know what is

487
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 1: so complicated about that for y'all. The entitlement is insane.

488
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: It's insane to me. Why do fans. I'm not talking

489
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: about my fans. Why do certain fans, certain people in

490
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: the public think that these promo positions are our right

491
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: as an artist. I don't bank on none of that.

492
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: I can't because I can't control it. I gotta just

493
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: hope that, you know, man, like I love the song

494
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: I put out. It feeds my soul, and if it

495
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: feeds my fans soul, they're gonna tell enough other friends

496
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: about it, it will spread because I have a fan base.

497
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: That's what I've been on. But this notion that like

498
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: something that isn't ours to begin with, is old to us.

499
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: It's just fucking nuts. It's it's crazy to me. Just

500
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: stop the bulls, stop the entitlement. Stop the bull all right,

501
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the playlist point four minute and try

502
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: to put a fence around some of this he's speaking about.

503
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: While I appreciate the independent mindset an approach from someone

504
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: like Russ number one, he has to understand he built

505
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: that in a certain way. He built that in a

506
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: very specific way, much different than a lot of these

507
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: artists currently in the game. Number two. Let's use the baby,

508
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm not saying this to say he's blackballed.

509
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: But I want to provide some context to the other

510
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: side of this scenario that Russ is speaking on. Let's

511
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Speaker 1: speak about like somebody like the Baby, if he has

512
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: a partnership or JV or some kind of recording situation

513
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: in which Interscope has financial interests in that project and

514
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: also some equity or ownership in a portion of the

515
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: rights of that project. What happens is these major labels

516
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: have deals with these streaming services, and so now the

517
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: question becomes, See, it's bigger than just yo. I can

518
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: tell my fans something is out and it's out, and

519
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: that's just how it is. And Russ knows better than

520
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: that because on one end you can't argue that, and

521
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: on the other end, say you spent the million the

522
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: market your song. You respect the business that is music,

523
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: and that's the music business that's on streaming platforms. Now

524
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: for some of those bigger artists, so a lot of

525
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: times they have a contract in which the artist is

526
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: signed to a label who is signed with the streaming sight.

527
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: Now the streaming sight should have interests to put that

528
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: if it's a new release, if it has some kind

529
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: of song that has traction on those playlists, because even me,

530
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: I found myself someone that's savvy with computers and understand

531
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: the Internet, I found myself oftentimes in a position to

532
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: have to lean on a playlist or some sort of

533
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: curated thing from these sites. And everyone is starting to

534
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: find themselves slowly but surely in that situation because they're

535
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: getting better at better in not only hiding music, but

536
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: presenting the landing pages in a way where it's even

537
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: harder to get to your favorite artists or even figure

538
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: out how to Dude, this is deeper than just tell

539
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: your fans, okay, tell them fans is music out they

540
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: go to the site and can't find it. That's a

541
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: thing as well. And if you think it's not, then

542
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: you haven't done your research and you're just sitting on

543
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 1: your high horse speaking from privilege. And I think the

544
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: other side of the argument needs to be spoken about

545
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: and with the top. See again, this isn't just about

546
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: straight to consumer. And I think people like to say

547
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: that because Dame Dash used to say that back in

548
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Speaker 1: the day, and Tyler Perris said, a couple of these

549
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: big tycoon people have said it in a way that

550
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: and that's old game. They found the way to make

551
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: it where there's a middle man. In most instances, you

552
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: think you're going straight to consumer through YouTube and you're not.

553
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: You think you're going straight to consumer because you uploaded

554
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: on Spotify, and you're not. Because at some point, if

555
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 1: they want to, they can tweak it, they can do

556
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: certain things to it. If you know that, you do.

557
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: If you don't, you don't. So they mastered this straight

558
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: to consumer talk and they speak over the casual consumer's head.

559
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: It is not by coincidence that sixty and seventy percent

560
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: of plays come through playlists. That's not coincidence. That's by design.

561
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: That's a designed result that you're dealing with. And because

562
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: the people over you have already made the deal, it

563
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: means you gotta go through there because that's the centralized

564
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: audience that they have placed on us. As much as

565
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: we think you could just upload the YU go ahead

566
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: and upload it. This eight million ships getting uploaded the day,

567
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: that's getting lost in that. That's what makes it even

568
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: more powerful to need a relationship because they open it

569
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: up to the public. If it was just the labels,

570
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: they had some kind of control. They can put who

571
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: they have interests on their pages and certain things, but no,

572
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: they open it up to the public and master it

573
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: as a creative thing, which it does help create us.

574
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: See it's a double edged swore because it helps create

575
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: us upload, get money, get rich out the game. But

576
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: on the other side it makes it. Well, Now you

577
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: better create a relationship not to get lost in that

578
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: sea of bully and the playlist is their attempt at

579
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: showing what is a reasonable list of songs based on

580
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: whatever metric that they have behind the scenes, and so

581
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: the question now becomes the centralized audience. We've seen Kanye

582
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: try to go around it. That didn't have much impact.

583
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: He probably made money, but they attracted the impact in

584
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: this game. That's another trick they play on you. They

585
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: make a deal with the streaming service and then they

586
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: fence everything around first week sales to make you pay

587
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: attention to the first week's sales because they know for

588
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: you to only get a first week's sales like that,

589
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: you gotta come through us through the playlist game. You

590
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: can't get a good first week's sale like that, like

591
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: a hundred thousands or something without the playlist game. So

592
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: that don't necessarily mean your album ain't good or when

593
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna end up going platinum, or you might

594
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: not have one platinum song when the two maybe three goal.

595
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: That don't mean that. It just means that you didn't

596
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: get the playlisting push that you should have got. And

597
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: I think people have to understand what that means. Now

598
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: here's the trick. If we start to zoom out from

599
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: that first week and say we're not even playing that game,

600
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: they yo, rapp, Lets get with me, Let's start a company.

601
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: Let's start a platform and start making it. What we

602
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: just count six months out numbers that what we're doing

603
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: now over here, and we were pushing it like they're

604
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: doing first week, We're sending this pleques. We everybody reposting

605
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: it for six months, were creating this culture that what

606
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling that you got to do. But you need

607
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: the infrastructure. So you got a damn that come through loan.

608
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: And so the conjunction of first week sales and playlisting

609
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: is the trick bag that they put everybody in. See,

610
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: they had got around them a little bit with the

611
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: merch thing. They got that out of there. See, the

612
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: merch thing was allowing them to get even away from

613
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: the music thing. Get that were taking the streaming platforms

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00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: out of it the merch thing because you would buy

615
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: a T shirt and get a direct download to where

616
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: song gives. Y'all gotta keep up with why they got

617
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: rid of that. It ain't because that's cheating. It's because

618
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: that was giving full access to the audience in a

619
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Speaker 1: way where they were spending more money on the marketing

620
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Speaker 1: on that side. Because now only at State Farm, we're

621
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: committed to uplifting black futures. In collaboration with organizations like

622
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: one hundred Black Men and National Urban League, State Farm

623
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: provides high school students with the opportunity to learn and

624
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: apply best practice strategies for saving and investing, all while

625
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: offering academic support, life skills, and exposure to college access

626
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: programs to prepare these students for life after high school.

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Speaker 1: Check out one hundred black Men dot org and NUL

628
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Speaker 1: dot org to donate and learn more. Like a good neighbor,

629
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: State Farm is there. Do they get the sales, they

630
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: also with the ticket, they get an email, they get

631
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: a dish, they get it at they get some information

632
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Speaker 1: with it, so ostracized dead and make their information only

633
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: come through us and ay, if you don't get the

634
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: playlist and you're gonna be under hunt. So you better

635
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: get with us to get your playlisting thing together. And

636
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: so when Russ says that you can just tell your

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00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: inst that something is out, it's correct, But that will

638
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: be ignoring the complex approaching research that these companies like Apple, Dude,

639
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: they got people and teams dedicated to research and development

640
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 1: for these kind of things. How do we make them

641
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: damn near go to a playlist before their favorite artists.

642
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: Nine times out of ten, you don't even come to

643
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: those things to listen to one song. You even got

644
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: to understand that they know that. First they change it

645
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: to a single game and then change it to where

646
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: they control playlisting because they know you're not gonna go

647
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: for one song. You're not really gonna probably put it

648
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: on repeat. But if you got a bunch of cooler

649
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: jams or a bunch of to some people just letting

650
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: it play. They don'tly like three songs in the road,

651
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: then the fourth when they kind of like Elly one.

652
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: They don't like four five most song, but they kind

653
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: of like that one. But guess what a whole time

654
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: all of them streams accounting while they at work, and

655
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: it's just and they ill why they hammering nails in.

656
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: It's just in they ill, right, nobody's going there listening

657
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: to one song all day, one song, one song, one song.

658
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: That ain't what's happening. So Russ and other people gotta

659
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: even understand that the thinking behind how these things are designed,

660
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: or much they taking consideration that the artist has the

661
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: ability to do what he says. If you think they

662
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: don't put any boundaries or red tape in between the

663
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: artists being able to directly just tweet something like that

664
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: and see that affect doll there's business in between that.

665
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: Why would they just let that happen? There's you know

666
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: what I meany millions of dollars that translation like cancusset

667
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: of a label or rapper or business or product or podcast.

668
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: That's business in between that. That's why those barriers are

669
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: in place. That's why those slots sometimes come up for sale.

670
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: And that's bigger than just Ramp. So I disagree with

671
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: what Russ is saying on that particular point because again

672
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: I also cite that you spent a million dollars on

673
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: your song with someone as big as Ed Sharon, so

674
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: you do pretty good and sell out LA Staples Center,

675
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: and Ed Sharon is Ed Sharon, He's probably the biggest

676
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 1: thing on that side of the street. So if that's

677
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: the case, all YouTube dudes had to do was tweet

678
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: that out and job well done. But no, you spent

679
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: a million dollars in marketing because you have to work

680
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: around all that algorithm and playlist bulls or pay to

681
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: be placed on those playlists. So again, pay attention to

682
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: people and what they do, not what they say. It's

683
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: very important in this game to know business. It's different

684
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: than banter. There will be a lot of talking. There'll

685
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: be a lot of speaking about what's happening, but pay

686
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: attention to the business deals these dudes are doing, and

687
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: then that's where you see the real information and real results.

688
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: Let me speak about this before we go in. And further,

689
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't think when I look at us as a coacher,

690
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: right because I know a lot of people want to

691
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: flirt with the idea that there is not a coach,

692
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: and that's definitely a false advertisement. There's a lot of

693
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: dangerous things happening. I'll get to this before I get

694
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: to my next point. We're in a very unique time, right.

695
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: Me and Charleston White started to point out things about

696
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: rap culture that were uncomfortable. My opinion was always that

697
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: I needed to leave some instructions from my children, right,

698
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: because they look up to these people and they need

699
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: some sort of dialogue to go, some kind of dialogue

700
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: and direction to go with some of these moves that

701
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: you see being made by these artists, right, And I

702
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: always felt like they can be confused by smoking mirrors,

703
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: and so my approach was always to kind of digest

704
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: the information and interpret it and put it back out.

705
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: Charleston White, on the other side, would take a more

706
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: direct approach, and his thing was using some of these

707
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: names and some of these individuals and kind of tearing

708
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: them down, and in conjunction, the voice got louder of

709
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: this whole, like, hold on, man, let's take a real

710
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: close look at rap culture and let's figure out how

711
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: to tweak some of these things. Now, this is what

712
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: I didn't take an account and I can't speak for

713
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: Charleston White, but I didn't take an account that there's

714
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: a very specific person that has to do this. Right,

715
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: Charleston is doing what he's doing, you know, whatever approach

716
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: he has, I'm sure he has a plan over there.

717
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: Loan has a very direct plan. But now we have

718
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: everybody kind of jumping in and slamming the rapper, and

719
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: I think that's dangerous. When we speak about the rapper

720
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: and the rap culture and business, the music business, we

721
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: have to understand that that's one of the few avenue

722
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: that black young boys have to come down. And not

723
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: saying we can't do anything else, but this is an

724
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: established avenue that's already in place that I think if

725
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: we can tweak the behavior of some of the things,

726
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: or even just let it stay in its current form,

727
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: but just make voices louder that kind of explain what

728
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: we're seeing. But I'm not in conjunction with none of

729
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: these dudes with tat A rappers down like I'm not.

730
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: I ain't on that, and I ain't on the tat

731
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: A Wrapper down thing, because I still again see that

732
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: as a place for us to elevate, speak to our people,

733
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 1: build a brand, build a legacy on the backs of

734
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: hip hopping rap. Right. So I can't say tear that down,

735
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: and I can't say that particular individual turn the lights

736
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: off on them, because they are a reflection of the

737
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: circumstances that I escape from, and so for me to

738
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: alienate from that would also be me doing a disservice

739
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: to everything that I know is happening on the other side.

740
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: They's coin in them all. And so every time rappers

741
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: come out and say something, then we're starting to see

742
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: allowed the voice of people pushing back, like when y'all

743
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: say this in your music and y'all do this in

744
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: the color right, And part of it is Charleston White

745
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: going viral, to other part is me going viral and

746
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: people starting to gravitate to that, to our voices, but

747
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: they don't understand it's much more game on this side

748
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: than just that, right, And I speak very specific about

749
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: the rap shit, right. I speak about like in the hood.

750
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that rappers. I'm the one here. It

751
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: is like, for instance, if you go back, I'm the

752
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: one that started the conversation about how rappers kind of

753
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: breed envy in their neighborhoods by coming through and shining

754
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: in a way like kind of stunting. They con me

755
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: and they professional liars, right, so they get to come

756
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: and look a certain way, and then now people are

757
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: expecting a certain things. And then you started to hear

758
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: that conversation go through the coach and be regurgitated, which

759
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: is cool. But there's a very specific way we have

760
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: the conversations because we want to extract the information and

761
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: the opportunity from some of these guys and understand how

762
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: they got what they were and also tell them that

763
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity to elevate what we come from. Because

764
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: what is and I'm gonna speak like the internet people,

765
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, like the bad is what it be given

766
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: is is that these guys, we want to really get

767
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: the street guys out of the way and see me

768
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: I can operate on both sides, so they can't with me.

769
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: I can come over there and they feel and over them.

770
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: So I'm never really worried about and I mean far

771
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: as creatively right, So I'm never really kind of worried

772
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: about the whole there xy out. You know, once I

773
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: get an audience, there's no exit me out, but the

774
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: rappers it be. So it always seemed like that there's

775
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: a common list of people who go against the rappers

776
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: every chance they get, and I just think we gotta

777
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: be careful. I don't think it's a it's a circumstance

778
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: that needs to be spoken on by everybody, But I

779
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: do know when you unleash something to the Internet, it's

780
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 1: no longer just your property. So you know, you gotta

781
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: live with that. But like, we gotta figure out how

782
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: to how to have the right voices kind of speaking

783
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: about how rappers are leading to children in a real way, right,

784
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: and not just be mad because streets was hard on

785
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: you in high school or because the street took your

786
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: girl from you back in the day. And boy, uk

787
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: you tanning the rappers down. See, I identify with them, guys.

788
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: I was the cool guy. I'm I always had pretty

789
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: girls and things like that and money and I come

790
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: up and so I kind of relate to those guys.

791
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to smush the rap because we're talking

792
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: on this side, and we are able to do this

793
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: every day while they are doing shows and things, and

794
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: so we can kind of flood the air waves now,

795
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to understand and what they are

796
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: going through and let them identify what opportunity they have.

797
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: And that's the difference. You know, a lot of people

798
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: are just you know, y'all are talking about killing y'all

799
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: are talking about selling drugs and having three and four

800
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: women and this and that, and a lot of people

801
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: is using that against rappers and then asking them to

802
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: come and sit down and speak to them, or asking

803
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: them to perform at their functions or asking them to right.

804
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: It's a weird feeling in our industry, and I partly

805
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: feel kind of responsible. So now I have to be

806
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: very responsible with how I maneuver around those topics because

807
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: I see people are taking it and I don't know

808
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: if they're tying it to the success that they're seeing

809
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: we're having, or if they just like it so much

810
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: they can identify with. Like I don't know, bro, if

811
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: it's an excuse for some of them, because again, Street

812
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: Dudes is kind of hard on them. I'm not sure.

813
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm gonna be louder about how we

814
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: fix this problem in a very particular like I'm not

815
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: just gonna be sitting there on some Baster rappers Baster

816
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: rappers talk. That ain't my thing, because at the end

817
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: of the day, we really got to respect that the

818
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: rapper was forced there. We were forced in those circumstances, right,

819
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: So a lot of people document the circumstances, man, so

820
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: I can't really just shit on them, but I gotta

821
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: let them know that this opportunity attached to the position

822
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: at they're end and help them identify that and hopefully

823
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: pivot in a way where they can profit as well

824
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: as preach, you know, to the people. And that's when

825
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm on and no way, shape or form am I

826
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: saying that all we can do is be robbers because

827
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: I know successful is that everything I'm talking about. I

828
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: know they got barber shops and got tied shops. I

829
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: know successful still say a dope, say a t shirge

830
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: rapp du move it like I know successful black men

831
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: and all kind of facets. So I reject any notion

832
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: to limit us and place us inside a box. I

833
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: understand that every position that we've been put in history

834
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: tells us that we've been able to excel. We've been

835
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: able to thrive with lesser than the people ahead of us,

836
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: and somehow, if not catch up, get close enough to

837
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: be in the atmosphere. And that's uncomfortable because the starting

838
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: points were so different. So black men are powerful in

839
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: every sense of the word. Right, the creativity that we

840
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: had to see again, you evolve in a very specific way,

841
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: even like the human. Their studies that show when the

842
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: human brain double, and it was because of an activity

843
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: that made the human brain double. So the way that

844
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: we had to maneuver with less in the neighborhood caused

845
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: to us to evolve in a way what problem solving.

846
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: At least me, I have a high level of problem solving.

847
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: Her up and get it, took care of, took care of,

848
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: took care of. That's where like so jesse Mane, if

849
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: I got befo an issue, what you have to know,

850
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm not somewhat sitting down down and relaxing, like nah,

851
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm that's on my mind, right, if I got a

852
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: deal on the table, that's on my mind, Like, shit

853
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: be on my mind because I'm a high level problem solved,

854
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: because I come from so many problems pop up that

855
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: if you don't solve them, you look up and you

856
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: put out. You look up and they repull your car.

857
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: See because shit popping up the light build dude, the

858
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: card no due, the rent due, and next thing you know,

859
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: you you you're trying to pop them back down this thing,

860
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, the car down. They don't repoll the So me,

861
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: I'm one of them ones. They got to her up.

862
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: Fix the problem, problem solved, problem solved, problem solved, problem solved.

863
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: Then when it ain't no problem here, I am looking

864
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: for problems that well, I say, they won't me be

865
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: They want to be me. They want to copy me

866
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: because they want to they want to success or the

867
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: looks I'm getting, or they want to you know, the

868
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: podcast that people enjoy and things like that. But they

869
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: don't know you can't turn this stuff off. They don't know.

870
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: I developed in a certain kind of way. That's why

871
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: this happens. This isn't something this by chance or by

872
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: coincidence or some dude that got lucky. This is a

873
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: guy that is resilient. This is someone that's not taking

874
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: no for an answer in regards to what I see

875
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: as my end result. Now, how I get that as

876
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: up to debate. So I'm never placed in a situation

877
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: where I'm telling someone you gotta do business with me,

878
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: you gotta work with me. But I'm knowing that where

879
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm headed, I have to work with somebody coming through hell,

880
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: and somebody gonna understand and see what I'm doing. They're

881
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: gonna let you on and they're gonna make a lot

882
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: of money and say one of the best things they've

883
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: ever done in their life was investing that in link

884
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: with Loon in that way because he had a clear vision.

885
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: When else you're gonna get it at on this side

886
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: of it, when you talk to it like me and

887
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: this day and time, usually you're talking to him because

888
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: you're already rich and famous and you don't paid some

889
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: kind of price, sacrifice something to be in that area.

890
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: That catching me on this side of the envelope. We

891
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: just now see the envelope when we just now gonna

892
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: take it to the mail box and send it where

893
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: it's gone. Man, this is catching me at the post office.

894
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: And a lot of times they'll wait till you've been

895
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: delivered and try to open the package and wonder why

896
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: they opened in the invoice. If you wait till I'm delivered,

897
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you're gonna receive an invoice. But had they

898
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: caught me on the way up, had they called me

899
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: at the post office, we would have been in a

900
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: different situation. Had they caught me on the front end

901
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: of it and believed in it. And that's why with

902
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: Nick P. You know, P reached out to me. You

903
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: know a man with man. Look, man, this red man,

904
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: why would you meet me or reached out to me? Yo?

905
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: I shit like this is everybody in the game. It's

906
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: like receptive to me. Man, they appreciate what I'm bringing.

907
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: Plus they know I'm hustling. I couldn't be more lucky

908
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: to be in a position I'm in. And it just

909
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: continues to let me know that everybody in the industry

910
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: ain't fake, you know, the way you would think on

911
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: the outside, like it's all these niggas in there on

912
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: some other ship. Now it's still in there if you

913
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: got the right and you know, they kind of thank

914
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: you one of them. They gonna do what they need

915
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: to do to try to make sure you in a

916
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: olkay position. But these podcasts are lazing. You know. As

917
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: I go through podcasting, I'm looking around. Yeah, all these

918
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,479
Speaker 1: dudes lazing in regards to podcasting. I ain't talking about

919
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: the other ship people do. Maybe they're working hard everywhere else,

920
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: but I saw dude. So I'm looking at five hunting

921
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: met in this space right here. I'm not moving, y'all.

922
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: Get out my way. All y'all playing and doing out,

923
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: Get the fun out the way. Loon looking for five

924
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: hunting me and he's not playing. You know, I got

925
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: shots at the end of November. You see what I'm saying.

926
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: So these things happen for me, and I'm just somebody

927
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: that's out here making it happen. And I know what's

928
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: gonna happen, right in a minute, They're gonna be saying

929
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: that Loon was an industry plan. It's no way it

930
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: happened that way. I'm sure everybody's gonna say that is

931
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: complete bullish. But I feel like coming because this is

932
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: kind of unexplainable. You know, how this independent podcast is

933
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: in a situation where you know he has a high

934
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: level of interest from Revote. You know, I've been contacted

935
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: by Amazon, I've been spoken to by numerous responses, you know,

936
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: and you see I'm naming companies because this is where

937
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: you get your money in then your infrastructure, right, and

938
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: this is just I can't even really remember everybody that's

939
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: been reaching out to me, but it's been a heavy

940
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: list of heavy hitters, right, and so me being on

941
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: this side, just creating a show, creating another show, doing

942
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do. It's like, I don't think

943
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: this has ever happened before ever, not even only for

944
00:51:52,760 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: my city, Cashville, but period. There's nobody to dance in sports,

945
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: business culture, all these different things like this, and if

946
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: they say they do show them to me, sit them up,

947
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: let us, let us have a conversation. I would love

948
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,959
Speaker 1: to respect their opinion. I would love to and don't

949
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: bring me these little podcasters right because I know what's happening.

950
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: I had a comment on my thing when somebody told

951
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: me I should be on your show. I blocked him.

952
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: You ain't got no bit in telling me you should

953
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: be or I don't even know you. You know how

954
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: many millions of dollars is on the line for this

955
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: show and these shows I'm doing it. You just telling

956
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: me I need to put you on my You know

957
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: how much blood, sweat and tears that he took me

958
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: to even get to whatever level I was on when

959
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: you heard about me, and then telling me the only

960
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: thing is I will I need to be on your show.

961
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: I blocked a little dude. He didn't really say nothing disrespectful,

962
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: but I had to block him because it was a

963
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm not interested in these conversations. They

964
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: disrespect what I've been through down The sweat equity has

965
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: been put into even developing a style that like this,

966
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: the sweat equity to be able to sit in the

967
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: studio by yourself with all these cameras and these people

968
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: with these lights and all this happening with no co

969
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: host and articulate these points and have this monologue and

970
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: dialogue with the culture in this kind of way. It's

971
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: very unique. There's not a screen behind me, there's nothing.

972
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: All you got is me. That's all you can pay

973
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: attention to. It's me, and so I gotta I gotta

974
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: deliver something in every sense of the word. But the

975
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: sweat equity to even develop that kind of style what

976
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: it took for me to understand lightning. Nobody can tell

977
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: me that I'm from You think if I d m

978
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: one of them dudes with a street account, they're gonna respond,

979
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: Like y'all, I'm trying to get in the podcasting. My

980
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: first episodes were terrible. The first time I hooked it up,

981
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: the camera was moving in and out. I had all

982
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: those zoom on so it'll it'll zoom in and zoom

983
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: I just randomly through the episode. I'm just speaking to

984
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: y'all about the fight. The fight I knew nobody in

985
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: the industry, no one in regards to media, nobody on

986
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: the start. Everything you see I did by Myselm the

987
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: Little Baby Interview pe reached out to me. He loved

988
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: my he put that together. I'm faeling dead with peeing

989
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: baby for that. But this is gonna be a fun journey.

990
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: You know. I'm gonna keep this up, that podcast just

991
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: you know, my experience is my outlook. You know, the

992
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: experience will be my podcast or show. Um with with

993
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: with with some of the biggest names in the culture. Right.

994
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: We still have guests over here as well from here

995
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: and there, um, but most of the time we're gonna

996
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna be over here speaking about the culture, society

997
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: and things like that, man and building that brand and

998
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 1: so man, I I really appreciate the position y'all put

999
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: me in. Y'all placed me in again. Thanks the little baby. Um.

1000
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: We had a great conversation. I'm sure it's gonna give

1001
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: me a look that's crazy, um. And we're gonna do

1002
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: a watch party on YouTube. We're gonna do a watch

1003
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: party for his album release. We're gonna try to support

1004
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: the album, you know, in that way, um, and tap

1005
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: into our audience and hopefully make sure that it it.

1006
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: It makes sure that our presence is felt in regards

1007
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: to support and I'm sure he'll be hell okay, you know,

1008
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: he's he's one of the biggest artists in the game

1009
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: and one of the realists I've ever ran into, you know,

1010
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: in regards to this industry or period. You know. Um,

1011
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: but but life is good man, and and it's up.

1012
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: That podcast has grown on the experience, had a great

1013
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: pilot first episode. So we're looking good man. Thank you

1014
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: all for supporting me. Patron is where you get the vibes.

1015
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: Let me get y'all a few seconds about this point

1016
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: as well. I hear her bow shout out to her

1017
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 1: he just dropped this album, Survivor's Remorse. Y'all go get him,

1018
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: saying that he don't believe in black Body either, because

1019
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: look at NBA Young Boy. Let me tell that they

1020
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: ain't n be a young boy respectfully. You know, NBA

1021
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: Young Boy has a very different type of fan base,

1022
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: and he has activated those people for a long time,

1023
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: serving them in a very specific way. So he has

1024
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: literally formed and created that audience in that way. This

1025
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: is a very different thing. A lot of you people

1026
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: are serving the casual listener. You're looking to tap into

1027
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: the casual listener because your presence with your fans it's there.

1028
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: But maybe they don't know how to search it. Maybe

1029
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: they don't know how to find it. Maybe they're not

1030
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: on Instagram as much as you think because you're getting

1031
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: those likes, and you may be unaware about whose finger

1032
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: is really on the purpose and aware of your album

1033
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: in a way that you think just because you're reaching

1034
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: people on social media, you may not be reaching all

1035
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: of your people. There's a group of people that you

1036
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: reach even outside of social media. There's a group of

1037
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: people you reach on Facebook that you don't reach on Instagram.

1038
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: You reach on TikTok that you don't reach on Facebook.

1039
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: There's people you reach on Twitter that you don't reach

1040
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: on either one of those, and so on and so forth.

1041
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: People you reach on Google, people you reach on right

1042
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: And so this blanket statement of as long as you

1043
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: got the Internet, you're gonna be okay, I think it's

1044
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: it's ill advised because these companies have put a very

1045
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: specific plan in place to create business alongside the discovery

1046
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: process of music, and so if we ignore that, then

1047
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: what are we really speaking about. If that's the case,

1048
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: we wouldn't need marketing teams. That's the case, you wouldn't

1049
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: be paying thousands of dollars to your marketing people people.

1050
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: Let the top beat clear that they're trying to trick

1051
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: you guys out of using the very developed team that

1052
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: you have in place. I say, still use your team.

1053
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: You know, the music business is a very old concept

1054
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: and this instruction place right now. I also say, let's

1055
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: get away from the first week number thing, because if

1056
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: they have you chasing that, they force you to play

1057
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: the game. That's why I think the information lies at

1058
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: not it's black balled real, because black balled is real.

1059
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Like y'all, we have to stop saying that blackballed is

1060
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: one hundred percent real. The question lies in the discovery process.

1061
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: The information lies in even reach on social media because

1062
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: you can post and not reach all your fans even

1063
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: on that. Like, I don't understand, bro NBA. Young boys

1064
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: not black balled and can't be black balled because he's

1065
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: taught his fans how to fish. It's a very different

1066
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: thing happening. See, y'all taught y'all fans how to just

1067
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: follow you on the Gram and just do. He's taught

1068
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: his fans how to hate. Come here to get the stuff.

1069
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: Every week. I'm always giving you something, so I always

1070
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: be checking from me here. Now it seems like he's

1071
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: trying to move him over to some of these platforms

1072
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: as well, but he was very particular in YouTube. I'm

1073
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: building this in a way. Come here to check from me,

1074
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: Check from me, check from me. So he's taught his

1075
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: fans how to fish for him because the sea of

1076
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: music has become way too big for us to act like.

1077
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: You don't need very specific people to narrow that search

1078
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: down and place you in front of people who usually

1079
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: are listen to someone with yours because no, listen you

1080
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: got bro, This gets complex. Man. You're dealing with fans, right,

1081
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: So you say your fans, yeah, you can touch your

1082
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: pure fans will be there. But you got some of

1083
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: your hits that translated to people who don't listen to

1084
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: your albums, who may like another song on this album.

1085
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: How do you let them know that, A, I know

1086
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: you liked this song from that artist. Here's another one

1087
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: like that. How do you let them know that you

1088
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: got the time to do that on Instagram every day? Hey,

1089
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: for everybody to listen to them. When I first came

1090
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: out and had that song called love Me for everybody

1091
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: to listen to that, I got another one of them

1092
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: on this new album. You're gonna come out every day

1093
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: and try to connect those dots like that, because again,

1094
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: it's ship everywhere on this Internet. So I don't think.

1095
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: I think again the strategy and the structure is off,

1096
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: you know. I think we gotta understand that the Internet

1097
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: is a big place. You think the world is big.

1098
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: But even with that, you experience the Internet different than

1099
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: you do when you go and travel places because it's

1100
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: it's at you, it's at your fingertips, it's so much information.

1101
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: At least, when you go and travel Italy, you can

1102
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: focus on where you are and at least look and write,

1103
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: absorb and digest actually what you're going through. But on

1104
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: that Internet, you're going everywhere so much. They don't know

1105
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: what to choose, They don't know where to go. But

1106
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: the blackball and thing conversation needs to adjust and people

1107
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: need to insert the fact that there's business in the

1108
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: discovery process of music. Let's talk about this. Shout out

1109
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: to did It Revolt? You know the vibes did He

1110
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: had a conversation on the Breakfast Club where he spoke

1111
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: about the situation with Mace. Just take a look at

1112
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: what he said and we'll come back with some game.

1113
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: Because what he had as First of all, see I

1114
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: didn't do nothing to him. So let's go back to

1115
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: the first. The first of all, the first of all

1116
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: is is that has been negative propaganda put out about me.

1117
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: That's not true. This this vibe that they got on me,

1118
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: like I'm big red or something. I came here. I

1119
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: had to open up the doors. So you don't steal

1120
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: from artists, is what you say. Never Never the narrative

1121
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: like that happened with tent people because people have this

1122
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: thing called the the tap out button. When you get

1123
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: to a certain point and the money is running low,

1124
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: you want to you gotta run this hustle to try

1125
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: to find somebody to blame. You know what I'm saying.

1126
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: I have all my receipts. It comes from different tactics

1127
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: when people want to get out of contracts. And a

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01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: lot of people that speak on this y'all don't know

1129
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: the business show. I don't know what y'all are talking about.

1130
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: So it's going to be a teaching moment of love

1131
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: because it is important, I feel, fight for your reputation.

1132
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm not perfect, you know what I'm saying. There could

1133
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: have been an accountant mess up on this one or

1134
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: that one things that happen in the business. But me

1135
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: actually like I'm running a hustle to get money. I

1136
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: started the delivering papers at twelve as old. I was

1137
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: a millionaire when I was nineteen, you know what I'm saying.

1138
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: And so I will be making sure that the truth

1139
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: comes out because that's not going down and in my legacy.

1140
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: And to me, that's the worst thing in the world

1141
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: is a thief. The thief is the worst thing. His

1142
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: hand should be chopped, her hand should be chopped off.

1143
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: His or her hands should be That's the where I

1144
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: feel about somebody taking something from somebody that ain't there's

1145
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, When you could go out

1146
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: and you could go and work for something, and so

1147
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: that right there. Um, I just you know, just in general.

1148
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: You know the Mace thing. You know, I did one

1149
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: album with Mace, one album. How much money do you

1150
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: think I owe this guy one album? And then he

1151
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: became a fake pasta and went and con people and

1152
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: then y'all gonna let him throw dirt on the Guard's name.

1153
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna we I wrote, each and everyone and each

1154
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: and everybody body in it body could come and step up,

1155
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: bring your receipts. But I'm not playing. I'm back outside

1156
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: and I'm fighting back for us, and I'm also doing

1157
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: do a little fighting back for me. Base owes me

1158
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: three million dollars. That's facts. I got the receipt second album,

1159
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: getting money to do second album, never delivered, did the albums?

1160
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: Never delivered? You know what I'm saying. And I'm not

1161
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: gonna go back and forth for Mace. You know what

1162
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm not going back and forth for nobody.

1163
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna if i'm here, I'm gonna speak up

1164
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: for myself. I'm gonna speak up for myself. Now, you

1165
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm not going to have you

1166
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: think something that I hate. I hate a thief, I

1167
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: hate somebody that don't got and I don't hate nobody,

1168
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: but that's with somebody that just gotta take something that

1169
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: somebody else worked for just for their benefit. And I

1170
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: don't like that. So you here, did he finally address

1171
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: some of the things Mace have been saying. Mace been

1172
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: out there speaking about did it on the money and

1173
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: not giving him his rights and things like that simultaneously

1174
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: while five year o and saying Mace has put him

1175
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: in a bad deal. So it's been a very complex,

1176
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: complicated situation. If this is the case where mace Os

1177
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: did it money and he's been knowing that, that's very disingenuous,

1178
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: and I think something must be up with Mace. Here's

1179
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: something I found interesting as long as I've heard people

1180
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: talk about that did it Mace think even me and

1181
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I peaked game a little good. But

1182
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: I didn't never mention the fact that he only did

1183
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: one album. That's a very important point. That is a

1184
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: very important point right now. I think mace conversation is

1185
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: about masters the way the business was ran in the nineties.

1186
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: And again, as the investor, you have to participate in

1187
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 1: some kind of way. In Mace's yet to put any

1188
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: contracts up for anyone to analyze in a real way.

1189
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: But even with me, if someone says Lorne, I want

1190
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: to go in business with you fog Fold Media, and

1191
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: I say, yo, I need to me and that to

1192
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: get us a building, that, to get this, this, this,

1193
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: that and third that have set everything up and we

1194
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: have an upside of three hundred million in four years.

1195
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: The investor has to participate because he's bringing something. The CEO,

1196
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: the record exact. They have to the label has to

1197
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: participate in some kind of way. And I think that

1198
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: it gets uncomfortable as the dynamics change. Right, So as

1199
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: you kind of are going down and I'm continuing to

1200
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: go up because whatever I did with my money was

1201
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: different with what you did with your money. And I

1202
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: was doing business and you was doing bullish, you understand me.

1203
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: So I kept elevating and you kept going down. And

1204
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: then you look up and it seemed unfair because you're

1205
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: looking on my plate, and you know what you're saying.

1206
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: When you're looking on my plate, that's a low vibration

1207
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: plate right there. Now I make a hating and look

1208
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: at my plate and say, that's a low vibration play.

1209
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: That's a whole bunch of shit on my plate. We're

1210
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: eating good over here, right And so I see comments,

1211
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: I see media guys that don't like my shi name reposting,

1212
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't have time to get into

1213
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: it with these guys because I got a lot of

1214
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: on my plate and I'm running my business. I ain't

1215
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: talent over here. I'm a producer. I'm big boy own

1216
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: on this side. So it's a different feeling. It's a

1217
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: different texture, And I know they want me to respond

1218
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: to the lack of energy that they get me because

1219
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: they know that if the whole game is working with

1220
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: this high ahead of me trying to duck and dodge it.

1221
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: And so I pray for this. And while they say

1222
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: this is a low vibration plate, loan eating too. We

1223
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of going on over there. I'm

1224
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: telling me they ain't low vibration if it's what I

1225
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: asked for. And I can't respond to niggers because I

1226
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: can't talk with my mouth full. I'm eating. I can't

1227
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: speak with my mouthful. Is disrespectful to high I was raised.

1228
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm eating over here. I can't respond to that little

1229
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: they talk. We're getting money. I'm handing for that five

1230
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: double low on. They think it's a joke. I'm telling

1231
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: you I'm heading for And so when you see me,

1232
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: understand and I'm hustling, I ain't partying, I ain't joking.

1233
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm putting game down and picking back ends up every

1234
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: single place I go. But it takes a sophisticated deal

1235
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: to ordinary three million and call him out for something

1236
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: so it may see is doing that. That's a different

1237
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: kind of savage. That's a different level of being right

1238
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: there home. So I ain't having that kind of nuts

1239
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: to ordinary three million and tell him you old me something.

1240
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: It's a different kind of new. So then we'll get

1241
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: into Kanye. This is kind of the start of Kanye

1242
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: attacking his own even though I can argue that with

1243
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: the White Lives and matter of shirt. Some people view

1244
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,520
Speaker 1: that as an attack, Others view it as bad to

1245
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: tongue in cheek attention seeking. Either way, I think that

1246
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: it disrespects the responsibility that one of the greatest voices

1247
01:08:53,360 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: that hip hop culture has elevated. Unfortunately, for Kanye, his

1248
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: hunger to be accepted in some of these industries has

1249
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: caused him to mirror the same behavior of America and

1250
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: to build that on the backs of the people that

1251
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: he shares the same skin color with. And that's the

1252
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: only difference. If we look at this and zoom out now,

1253
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: I'll love to have a conversation with Kanye to kind

1254
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: of try to see what this is about. Again. I

1255
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: think he serves both sides of your opinions. Right on

1256
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: one side, you say, boy boy made a good point

1257
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 1: about that, and then on the other side, it's like, nah,

1258
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: that wasn't cool, which one is the real? Yay? It's

1259
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: unfortunate that he's probably more witty than everyone that he

1260
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: speaks to. And even if that's not true, I think

1261
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: he's willing to go back and forth longer. So let's

1262
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: just say he bumps into Jay with some of those ideas.

1263
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 1: He has fifteen hundred different ways to explain him. And

1264
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 1: so when Jay pushes back the first one and then

1265
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: he morphs it into this other version of it, and

1266
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: Jake pushes back on that when it's like, at some

1267
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: point some of these guys is like, you got it, brother,

1268
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: but then you asked yourself, what is it affecting? But

1269
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: but we'll talk about that in a minute. Did he

1270
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: spoke on Kanye and him wearing a White Lives Matter

1271
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: T shirt? For those of you under where, Kanye was

1272
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: at a fashion show outside of the United States and

1273
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: he showed up with Candisons And I've reached out to

1274
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: Candith Sowens. I need to speak with her. This is

1275
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: prior to this. But he showed up with a White

1276
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: Lives Matter T shirt and of course black people were disappointed.

1277
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: Let's listen to what did he said about that? And

1278
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: then I was gonna put out these T shirts today, Um,

1279
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: Kanye and nothing and then Kanye my boy, Kanye ain't

1280
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: my boy. Now this is where he needs to o.

1281
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: Kanye my boy. White lives matter. Kanye my boy is

1282
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: a super super super a free thinker. No, no, no, no,

1283
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: I'm not making excuses. I'm just saying that if he

1284
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: did it, like, that's the way he thinks. And so

1285
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, and I understand white lives do matter, but

1286
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: it's not that that was our slogan. That wasn't our

1287
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 1: slogan to go share with with with nobody else. And

1288
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: so that's the that's the only message. We don't have

1289
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: to condemn Kanye or cancel him for you just don't

1290
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: have to go crazy. But at the same time, you

1291
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: know saying, you gotta be you gotta understand like your actions.

1292
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying right now, And I don't think. No,

1293
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: it's not the time for unnecessary noise with you know

1294
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: him or Karen Owens. You know what I'm saying, because

1295
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: this is really Candice Karen candid she Cameron Owens. Now

1296
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: that's a new name. And so after this interview, you know,

1297
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,879
Speaker 1: people probably came to did he because He's not somebody

1298
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna look at this stuff and was like, yo, man,

1299
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: this is what Kanye been doing. And so he came

1300
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: back out and said this, So church this out, y'all.

1301
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: I am not about to be addressing every last thing

1302
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: that's going on in the world on the internet. But

1303
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: the thing I do have to address is this White

1304
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: Lives Matter T shirt. I've always been there and I

1305
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: will always support my brother. Kanye is a freethinker, But

1306
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: the White Lives Matter T shirt, I don't rock with it,

1307
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm not with it and

1308
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: with the pressing with fashion is doing thinking this is Joe.

1309
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: But right now, all America has planned for us is poverty, incarceration,

1310
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 1: and death. So before I could get to any other

1311
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: lives matter, which all lives matter, you know what I'm

1312
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: saying that black lives matter, don't play with it. If

1313
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: you can't, don't wear the shirt, don't buy the shirt,

1314
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 1: don't play with the shirt. It's not a joke. I

1315
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: think this is more about him understanding the gravity of

1316
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: what Kanye did. Again. I know people downplayed and just

1317
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: say it's yo. This. Rappers do worse than things, and

1318
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: I think there's a conversation to be had there, but

1319
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: it's a very intense, detailed, but yet specific conversation. And

1320
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,759
Speaker 1: Kanye came out to try to explain what he meant.

1321
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: This is what he said. Did you want it to

1322
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: express when you do the White Life Matter T shirts?

1323
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: You know, at a certain point, it felt like I

1324
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: saw white people wearing shirts that said Black Lives matter,

1325
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 1: like they were doing me such a favor by having

1326
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: a T shirt that reminded me that my life mattered,

1327
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: like I didn't already know that. So I thought that

1328
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: I thought I returned the favor and let white people

1329
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: know that, hey, your life matters too. It's sort of

1330
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: like when random people will see the documentary, and the

1331
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: documentary was, you know, the third chapter basically was saying, hey,

1332
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: we all love Kanye, but sometimes you got to turn

1333
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: the camera off on him, meaning like, don't listen everything. Yes,

1334
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: we know he's a genius, but feel free to put

1335
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: them on. And so sometimes I'll see people out of

1336
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: fashion show and they say we saw this documentary and

1337
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: they say are you good? And I'll say, are you good?

1338
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: So it's like black lives matter, White lives matter, and

1339
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: it's just simple as that way, do you say Black

1340
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: Lives Matter is a schem? Well, because it's proven. So

1341
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: they asked him about white lives matter, and you see

1342
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: his answer. This is why it's so important to speak

1343
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: to people who was affected by these experiences. See, could

1344
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: they let him get that off? You know, I saw

1345
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: white people wearing a shirt they say black lives matters,

1346
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: as if I I didn't already know, So I decided

1347
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: to return the favor. And here it is some guy

1348
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: who's not coaching in any way shaped for him in

1349
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: regards to what we've been through, sitting there listening and

1350
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:15,480
Speaker 1: then ahe and starstruck by one of the biggest names

1351
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 1: in the world. But had he been sitting next to

1352
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:22,480
Speaker 1: anyone who had any kind of information about the circumstances

1353
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: black people find themselves in, he wouldn't understand that this

1354
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: was less about a shirt and much more about the circumstances.

1355
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: This was on the heels of George Floyd being murdered

1356
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 1: by the hands of a police officering broad day on

1357
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: camera in which we was trying to stand up and

1358
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: revolte against police brutality, which was an extension of the

1359
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: unfair treatment of black people all across the board. So

1360
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: now we're starting to get some steam in regards to

1361
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: understand it. Wake up, they treating us a certain kind

1362
01:15:55,600 --> 01:16:00,560
Speaker 1: of way. We need to limit confusion. We need to

1363
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: limit confusion. We need to limit confusion. But you can't

1364
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: make me believe Kanye don't understand this right, So this

1365
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: ain't about a shirt. It's came out that money has

1366
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: been stolen. That's a fact. So we put that to

1367
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: the side. Be a limited organization, but the chance, the

1368
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: understanding that the treatment of black people needs to be updated.

1369
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: We needed to adopt that from that culture movement that

1370
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: we had in place, and nobody understands that. More so,

1371
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 1: what that did was that chant of black lives matter,

1372
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: that aura, that confidence, that understanding around those words was

1373
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: less about the words and more about the vision. We

1374
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: needed vision. We need vision to get out of this.

1375
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: We've been blinded for so long. We need vision. So

1376
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,520
Speaker 1: if anybody know anything about how it can start as

1377
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: a chance, it'll be Kanye West. I heard in reference

1378
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: come with me, hell marry and how that's like a

1379
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: Negro spiritual one thing about black people. As we're trying

1380
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: to fight and figure our way through these circumstances. We

1381
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: try to communicate with each other, and oftentimes there's a

1382
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: certain person or people that gives these soundtracks and give

1383
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 1: these chants for us to go from one position to

1384
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: the knicks the transition phase. Believe it in yourself phase.

1385
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: And that's why you would hear Kanye double back with

1386
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: the la la la way to lie. He understand more

1387
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: than anyone that that chance and that vision calls for movement.

1388
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: And so as we're trying to build a movement, one

1389
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: of the most influential people seems to be getting his

1390
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: voice confused with his position. And I'm only speaking to

1391
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: the ones didn't know the difference because this ain't as

1392
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: sophisticated as it seems, what Kanye is doing, and I'm

1393
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 1: not sure he realizing it is the same people that

1394
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: he took his time out to breathe life in, he's

1395
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: now suffocating them. You're putting a pillow around the mouths

1396
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: or the people that believed and still believe in you

1397
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: because your behavior doesn't reflect on the behavior that they

1398
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: can exhibit. Number One, you have to ask yourself as

1399
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: big as Kanye West says, and he can go sit

1400
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: on any platform he needs to come here, but he

1401
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: can go sit on any platform in the world. He

1402
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 1: has a global reach and its complex and whatever games

1403
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,759
Speaker 1: and mind tricks and understanding he has in his brain.

1404
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: The man that may have came up with one of

1405
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: the most influential designs in fashion in the last decade

1406
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: or two. His ability to digest information and walk these

1407
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: thin lines in tight ropes, his ability to flirt with

1408
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: these ideas and recover. I think he's extending that grace

1409
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 1: to other people that they may not be equipped with.

1410
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: When millions of people digestion, any percentage of black boys

1411
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: misunderstanding what you're trying to do with that white lives

1412
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: a matter of T shirt is too many. There's not

1413
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: enough attention they can give you to burn your building down.

1414
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 1: I would like to thank you're creating chaos to try

1415
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: to get out of all of these deals and own

1416
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: your stuff. You want them to thank you're crashing now.

1417
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: But the gravity attached to some of the things that's

1418
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: being done, I think can't nobody explain it in a

1419
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: way to him that he understands the gravity of it.

1420
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: And I can address people who say, yo, the culture

1421
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: provides different things and thinking a lot of things that

1422
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: the culture provides is way more detrimental than what Kanye

1423
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: is doing. I want to speak to that. I want

1424
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: to say you're correct about that. When the process of

1425
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:27,440
Speaker 1: trying to understand our culture right while we're being monetized

1426
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: by people from outside of our culture. So that's a

1427
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: complex process and certain people can't speak on it because

1428
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 1: they're not instrumental and even crafting anything that's involved in it.

1429
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: But Kanye was chosen. His voice is too loud to

1430
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: cause confusion. One of the reasons why the culture fell

1431
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: in love with Kanye is because he was so persistent

1432
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: and precise. He knew exactly where he wanted to go.

1433
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 1: His strategy was intact, he knew it wasn't all that

1434
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: he's jumping around. That he's trying to do right now

1435
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: was a very clear thing. I conquered rap, I won't rap,

1436
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 1: I won't rap, I conquer rap. Then it was I

1437
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: won't end on fashion. And now when he's starting to juggle.

1438
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: Now everything's doing pretty good, and I'm not sure if

1439
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: that juggling of all of those high priority items has

1440
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: caused him some dog times. We can't argue that Kanye

1441
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: West doesn't have influence. And if you understand influence. You

1442
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: understand what influence is used for. And if you understand

1443
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 1: what influence is used for, then that means you understand programming.

1444
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 1: And if you understand programming and you got someone with

1445
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: a lot of influence doing something that's programming our youngsters

1446
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: in a way that may or may not be understood

1447
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: by them, then someone has to speak on it. Now Again,

1448
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: that argument is always gonna come of what the rappers do.

1449
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: Set that to the side. We trusted Kanye in his

1450
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: vision from the beginning. I believe if your children is

1451
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: trusting a rapper that hasn't done what Kanye has done,

1452
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: I think they may be in a weird place. You

1453
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: may be not being able to have this conversation. A

1454
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 1: matter of fact, stop having the conversation. Go help some

1455
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: of them kids you're talking about. But people not only

1456
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: trust Kanye because his vision was in tact and it worked.

1457
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: We're dealing with results when we're dealing with Kanye. So

1458
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: when he says something that has a different level of gravity.

1459
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: The rapper that come out the hood that ain't did

1460
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: really none. He went platinum on something to sold a

1461
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: couple of records. But but there's a whole section of

1462
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: people that's not gonna tap into that and digest that. Now,

1463
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: the kids that will do that, we need to have

1464
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: some roll blocks in place. That's our responsibility. But his

1465
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 1: position comes with a certain level of responsibility and then

1466
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: extends itself to programming everything he do kids want to do.

1467
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: What about the white people that he's reaching, that he's

1468
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: making believe that's better than his children? Did he think

1469
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: about that? Or does he's not see his children as

1470
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: could be affected by what he's doing because he got

1471
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: too much money? But do you think of what if

1472
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 1: the shirt I put on now affect my little boy

1473
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: as he get older? Do we think about that I'm

1474
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 1: gonna protect him? What if God put you in a

1475
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 1: position where you can't protect him? Where you could have

1476
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: left the world in a place to protect him because

1477
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 1: I gave you that level of influence, but you rather

1478
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,799
Speaker 1: left the world in confusion and hoping that they found

1479
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: the interview where you explained it in a different way

1480
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: that didn't get to reach didn't have a shock value

1481
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: as that mother T shirt? What if it affects your family?

1482
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of times they don't see

1483
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 1: it that way. And that's why I speak about these

1484
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: things in the way I do. I know I'm leaving

1485
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: this world to my little kids. They gotta develop in

1486
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: this world. They need instructions about some day. And how

1487
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: I look at that, that's my favorite artist. I like

1488
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: all his clothes. How I'm posted to look at him

1489
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: wearing the White Lives Matter T shirt, right, I gotta

1490
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 1: leave some instructions on that. I gotta say now that

1491
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,799
Speaker 1: ain't it. Don't don't don't. Don't bite into that, because

1492
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: whatever I explained to you, you won't understanding. His influence

1493
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: may outweigh my instructions. And that's why it's important what

1494
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: he's doing. It's poverty in our plans, it's poverty in

1495
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: Black Little Boys plan. We was born in these circumstances.

1496
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 1: For Stinham, it's called a project for a reason, and

1497
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: so they put poverty in our plans. But guess what,

1498
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 1: we can put that pack down, pick up our potential.

1499
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: And so it's unfortunate. And I just hope at some

1500
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: point someone can speak to home in a way where

1501
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: he understand, or we can have a conversation. He's welcome

1502
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: here whenever he has some time. We can sit down

1503
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: for however many hours he want. To sit down for

1504
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: he can design the set. We can sit down and

1505
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: have a conversation. Only thing, Gils, I need a day

1506
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 1: in the set with nobody around if he designs the set.

1507
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: And that's just to get my energy right. It's so

1508
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 1: important to gravity of these conversations. I don't take them lightly.

1509
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a game. Following this, you

1510
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: got Boosty come out. You got a couple of people

1511
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: starting to react to the White Lives Matter T shirt

1512
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: and they're disappointed in yay and so Bootsey appealed on

1513
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 1: drink Champ shout out Northy and this is what he said,

1514
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: and ye straight with me, But I he pitched me

1515
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: off this morning. You know we didn't went through. I

1516
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: don't want to get on him, you know, but you

1517
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: know when we didn't went through and what we're still

1518
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: going through to this day. You know, everybody know people matter,

1519
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: but but what we but but but that lives matter.

1520
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: When we're promoting that what we hadn't been through, let

1521
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 1: us get our glory. Man, don't be no fucking pigeon

1522
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: stool from what y'all people have suffering and still suffering

1523
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: to this day. Ain't nobody get ain't ain't nobody getting

1524
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: done like Black's getting done from three four hundred years

1525
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 1: to this day. And you are a glamorate. I'm putting

1526
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 1: the white lives Matt go on with you. Color die

1527
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 1: your face then, and so after that, Kanye West came

1528
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: out and said this, don't speak on me, little boost

1529
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: to speak to me. Yeah, little nerd as me, come

1530
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: smack me or come shoot me. I'm the one that

1531
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: got bullet by the tie black celebrity community. Now I'm

1532
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: back to shoot the school love. And when you hear

1533
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: Kanye West say something like that, you know exactly where

1534
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: it comes from. After that meeting, me Or came out

1535
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: and responding and it's like, Yo, we knew you hated streating. Man,

1536
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: you just kind of streating when you know when you

1537
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,719
Speaker 1: want to kind of the benefit you. And he said, justin,

1538
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,799
Speaker 1: little boy, don't invite me to none of them parties

1539
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: would do, you know? And he spoke about him not

1540
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 1: posting Vora's album. Vory got a dope album after all

1541
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 1: the work Vory done for him, and he said that, um,

1542
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: Kanye made sure to say Jack Hallow was hide instead

1543
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:07,879
Speaker 1: of EStG. And again, this is something with Street guys.

1544
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: And I heard academic speak about it, like saying, Kanye

1545
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: don't careing them about street dudes. He hauled on street dudes,

1546
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: and don't nobody care about street dudes. Again, this attack

1547
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: on street dudes or how people are trying to box

1548
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: street people out. I think it's it's unfortunate. But if

1549
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: you remember Kanye Wist did the same thing to the backpackers,

1550
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. It is interesting, man. That's

1551
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 1: why somebody got to have a conversation with Kanye. They

1552
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: can really figure these things out because there's a couple

1553
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: of questions do because even with the backpack thing, he

1554
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I ain't really with that backpack that

1555
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: Jako needed somewhere to land that and it worked. I

1556
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: don't with them like that. I'm from south Side Chicago, right,

1557
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: So he flipped over that and then then all the

1558
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 1: backpackers like that and we rolled with that dude eight

1559
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: year But boy, that the hell of that niggasign some

1560
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: hell of a shipping. His ideas is super dope. So

1561
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 1: people are still riding, but he don't understand the damage

1562
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: that he's doing to hisself. Picture he pictured some of

1563
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 1: the moves he didn't make. Had he didn't make them,

1564
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: where would he be even though he's still super at

1565
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: the top of the game. But where would he be

1566
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: had he not made some of these kind of move

1567
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 1: But here's what I didn't like telling somebody like little

1568
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: Boosha who was on trial for death row and now

1569
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: all this kind of come shoot me, come smack me.

1570
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: See now he's sounding like Cameron Wish. See he sounded

1571
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: like Karon Wish. When you do that, it's like the

1572
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 1: little boys when we outside. We then came in front

1573
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: of little boy house. We all the same maids, and

1574
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm going in his pockets taking his money. His daddy

1575
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: look out and wonder what's going on out there? And

1576
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: instead of us all that time, he had to stand

1577
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 1: up for itself. He waited to his daddy getting the doing.

1578
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: Now keep going through my pockets, He's screaming. Now, keep

1579
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: keep going through my pockets, keep doing what you was

1580
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 1: just doing. Keep hitting me, now, keep hitting me. He

1581
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: one of them, ain't it? What is that about? Come

1582
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 1: shoot me, comes smack me. What are you doing? Like?

1583
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: I stay running into them kind of people. Man, they'd

1584
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: be trying to use me against me. You know what,

1585
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, might be at a restaurant, Hey man, you

1586
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 1: know I bring it something back and y'all ask for

1587
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 1: extra cheese on these fries. Go ahead and do something

1588
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: illegal to me. Go ahead and go ahead and shoot me, yo,

1589
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 1: I just can you just put some more cheese on

1590
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: the fry. Ain't nobody with all lad, but that's how

1591
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: they try to because they know I'm trying to present

1592
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: you to the people looking a certain way. And I

1593
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 1: ain't really like that because if it's about us, what's

1594
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: side like? That's what I'm saying. You're confusing your people,

1595
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 1: even the high level thin because you it's still like, yo,

1596
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 1: what he's doing though? What is all lad? Like? What

1597
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 1: is all lad? Though? I ain't gonna stop when I'm doing.

1598
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: I don't give a what he's doing, But I'm saying,

1599
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 1: what is all lad though? And you're talking to high

1600
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 1: level problem solved where we come from? That comes shoot me,

1601
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 1: come kill me, that's insurance. It's like police. So Boost

1602
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 1: responded with this, don't speak on me, little booster speak

1603
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: on me. Speak to me, Yeah, a little nerd as me.

1604
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: Come smack me or come shoot me. I'm the one

1605
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 1: that got bullet about the entire black Celebrited community. Now

1606
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm back to shoot. Just look. Oh he crazy, Oh

1607
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 1: yeah he crazy? Yeah yeah, he ainting like a white boy.

1608
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: He acting like a white boy. He acting like a

1609
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: white boy. He crazy. Yeah he's safe. Yeah he's safe.

1610
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't nobody. Yeah that he acting like a crazy

1611
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:52,600
Speaker 1: white boy. He had by man, man this main lost

1612
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 1: his top. He didn't lost his top. I gotta tell

1613
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: dirty dirty, I don't like dirt. I don't know what

1614
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: the talk about. That lost his top. He don't get out?

1615
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: He got the real thing or get out? This is

1616
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 1: the real movie again. Still gotta ask you said why

1617
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: I want them? I'm more powerful guys doing that, Like

1618
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: if the money gonna make you do that, do all that?

1619
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 1: A lot of people ain't gonna want the money, you

1620
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They're like, nah, I don't want

1621
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 1: to get that far. Like seemed like bro, he hell

1622
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,679
Speaker 1: a creative, but it seemed like he going through it though.

1623
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 1: It seemed like too much going on, you know what

1624
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 1: I mean? He just flashing out and then everybody around you.

1625
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 1: You pay them, so you're paying for their opinion if

1626
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 1: they know that their job is in jeopardy if they

1627
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 1: disagree with you and take a hard stance against you.

1628
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: And then oftentimes when you win those tornadoes, you keep

1629
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 1: yourself away from people that's in powering. You try to

1630
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 1: take all of that energy out of them before they

1631
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: get next to you. And I think that's part of

1632
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: the change clothes thing, if that's true. They say, Kanye,

1633
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,600
Speaker 1: make you get out there and change clothes, like you

1634
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: gotta have this own to come in here and see

1635
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:11,600
Speaker 1: the thing. I find interest in it. And this is

1636
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think it's a power struggle. Is

1637
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 1: that he have everybody put a black on it didn't

1638
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: come in and white or you know what I'm saying,

1639
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: due to opposite or something like that. And it's just

1640
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 1: like it's some weird power with struggle going on where

1641
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: he's trying to reassure himself that he's on top of

1642
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: a mountain that is shared by many people. The mountain

1643
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 1: is too big to take claim over the whole mountain.

1644
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 1: And we must understand that. That's why when he gets

1645
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: to that level that he's own now, he's still trying

1646
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 1: to play one on one basketball. He playing against familists.

1647
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: This is family money. When when we could pay you

1648
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 1: a billion to billion. Then you're dealing with familists. This

1649
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:58,560
Speaker 1: money here a loan. This money go to three generations

1650
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 1: down the road. This ain't no money. Kanye is new money.

1651
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,600
Speaker 1: Jay is new money, did his new money, Lebron is

1652
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:08,719
Speaker 1: new money. We all new money. But when you start

1653
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 1: the eye, get me two billion for this deal. That's

1654
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 1: a family. And he had his family with hip hop.

1655
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 1: He got his family with hip hop. He can easily

1656
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,839
Speaker 1: put a board together him Jay did it, Loon QC.

1657
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, James from Wrap Snacks,

1658
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: just all kind of people and put that board together

1659
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,839
Speaker 1: and put it in a situation where it's their family

1660
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: against this family. The first family. Yeah, this's the first

1661
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 1: family of hip hop is put together that when he

1662
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 1: got this together, then we're going up against the dealers,

1663
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: not going up against both in partnership with and we're

1664
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 1: strong as a motherfucker, so if they play wrong, we

1665
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 1: can say no to the deal and put it together ourselves.

1666
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 1: But there's a family of individuals when you get to

1667
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: that level, bro, and he is alien natan himself from

1668
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: his family. I think in a weird way, he thinks

1669
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: that all those people are out there because his music

1670
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 1: is good, and because his shoes is the best shoes

1671
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: in the world. And although he had some of the

1672
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: dopest designs and some of the best music we've ever heard,

1673
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,799
Speaker 1: a lot of them people look at ya like family.

1674
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 1: A lot of these black folk look at us like family. Bro,

1675
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 1: you wanted him, you dis only your family, You confuse

1676
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: in the family. Would we would have went against the

1677
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: dedas with you. We would have put some money together

1678
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 1: and gap with you. We gap thug was calling from

1679
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 1: out of jail to get you laying and try to

1680
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: try to make sure we get it's your family. You're

1681
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: stepping on us for what to take over a fashion week.

1682
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: That's like my old lady. If I got a girlfriend

1683
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 1: and we go out, she's showing out, and I'm like,

1684
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: I pay the bill, I take care of you. And

1685
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: you get in front of the vault and you're trying

1686
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 1: to show out. You're trying to throw your weight around

1687
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:10,600
Speaker 1: because you know I'm locked in with you when we

1688
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 1: don't built the life together and got children and were married.

1689
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 1: So now you take that advantage you got on my

1690
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: circumstance and use it against me in public because you know,

1691
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 1: damn NEI, it's hard to leave you. I entrusted you

1692
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 1: with everything. I put you at the top of the mountain.

1693
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 1: You disregard that when you get ready and you call

1694
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 1: it love, you call it leadership. Confusing your family and

1695
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 1: see puffkin get it in the area, Kanye in. See

1696
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 1: some of these little rap dudes you call lot there,

1697
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 1: get you to a bus, shot at or some of them,

1698
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 1: dude shot it if they want to. They ain't gonna

1699
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 1: do that. They got a lot of respect for you.

1700
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: But did it can get in any room you in.

1701
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 1: We can go security for security. I'm dead pissed off

1702
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,600
Speaker 1: just starting knocking folks out when we get up in

1703
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 1: y'all clear path. I'm trying to get up at a Kanye.

1704
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:07,879
Speaker 1: I hate it. Got to go like it, but somebody

1705
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 1: got to give him a little bit of straightening. If

1706
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 1: did it was to approach Kanye something where he'll start

1707
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 1: talking loud and saying like that didn't walk up on

1708
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 1: them a manager, shoot me there, smack me. Don't do

1709
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do. I know you got your goals

1710
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 1: with you. I know you got that fit dough. Yeah,

1711
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 1: now Kanye, do that right? There is't that schools on

1712
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: Kanye going that bag. I think because I don't think

1713
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,679
Speaker 1: you really want no problems. I just think he want

1714
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 1: to do what he want to do without no consequence.

1715
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 1: In my opinion, on doing what you want to do,

1716
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 1: a lot of times that lead the problems. Therefore, you

1717
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 1: gotta deal with some consequences. You know what I'm saying.

1718
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 1: It's like that, thank you, suck around and find that

1719
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying. That's what's happening. He gon

1720
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: fuck around, he gonna find that, you know what I'm saying. Okay,

1721
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 1: So a couple of weeks ago, I spoke to you

1722
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: guys about a breakup that having in full Seeing podcasts.

1723
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 1: It's a podcasts that operates in kind of the same

1724
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: space as like Logan Paul and and some of those

1725
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 1: kind of podcasts like Flagrant and things like that. It's

1726
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: probably one of the bigger ones in that space. It's

1727
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 1: had people like Donald Trump. Elon Musson, I spoke about

1728
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,719
Speaker 1: how they released a guy named Bob. Bob then came

1729
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 1: to try to do his own podcasts and he found

1730
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: this self competing with numbers that he had previously. And

1731
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 1: a lot of times when you're in a building stage.

1732
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 1: It's very very important to identify that. Right. You cannot

1733
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: take my numbers and compare them to his numbers. Right now,

1734
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: look at my product, look at my quality. I'm sucking

1735
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 1: over him. I just ain't checked out all the boxes yet.

1736
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 1: But I got three or four moaning from behind him,

1737
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 1: without the resources, without the reach s important identify that.

1738
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: But Bob podcast was doing OK, right, but certain episodes

1739
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 1: with our culture, you know, was instantly fifty K honey K,

1740
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 1: eighty K, thirty K right. It instantly got him some numbers.

1741
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 1: When he spoke to people on outside and he's reached

1742
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 1: out to people, he seems like one of those guys

1743
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 1: well connected. But I pointed out that he had to

1744
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,760
Speaker 1: come to us to build that podcast in the same

1745
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 1: way they did when Dirt went over there, when the

1746
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 1: Baby went over there, when Tory went over there, when

1747
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 1: at the height of his thing, antonio' brown went over there.

1748
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,640
Speaker 1: All of these things happened, and he was in a

1749
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 1: situation to kind of try to build that core audience

1750
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: and let him know that he's back. He has a

1751
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 1: following and he's someone in the game for people who

1752
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 1: don't know full sein. Dana White has something to do

1753
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 1: with that, as well as a couple of other people

1754
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and they have a product that they

1755
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 1: have for sale, which I think is one of the

1756
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 1: best business decisions that they've made to run alongside that podcast.

1757
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 1: But they kicked their moss and then i'll hell breaks loose.

1758
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: Bob then goes to social media and speak so on

1759
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 1: what happened with the Nil boys and him leaving full

1760
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 1: of seeing and says that these old money let's take

1761
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 1: a look. Now. I've been nervous. I'm not gonna lie

1762
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 1: to you. I've been nervous because I got a big audience,

1763
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,640
Speaker 1: good people with me. At the same time, Full Scent

1764
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 1: has a big audiences with them. You know, I was like,

1765
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to go at them whatever. But you know,

1766
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:29,600
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I was I was

1767
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: told one thing and I didn't get it, and I

1768
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 1: was lied to. And you know what also was It's

1769
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 1: not only that on top of things that weren't in

1770
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 1: contracts or whatever, I was still fair. I was still

1771
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: fair where we had a deal with certain things that

1772
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,759
Speaker 1: money was supposed to come in and guess what, it didn't.

1773
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 1: And I had to bring it up and say Hey,

1774
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: where's this? Oh there's fifty five thousand missing? Where the

1775
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 1: fuck is this sixty thousand? Oh, Bob, sorry my bad.

1776
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:52,879
Speaker 1: Here we are. We got that. I was our apology.

1777
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 1: Get the fun out of here, y'all. Fair to me, y'all,

1778
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 1: fall to me. So here is the deal. Pay me

1779
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: the res to my fucking money that is owed. And

1780
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, guess what, you can

1781
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 1: still keep your promise that I own thirty percent of

1782
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:07,679
Speaker 1: the show long term. You can still keep that promise.

1783
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 1: But that promise out the window. I'm not afraid of

1784
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 1: any repercussions you guys, And you know what, you guys

1785
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 1: can run around with you a little Johnshihy, Kyle Sammy,

1786
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 1: whatether funck you want? I don't give a fuck. I

1787
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 1: was one of the good guys that I poured my blood,

1788
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:23,759
Speaker 1: sweat and tears into that show and can build something

1789
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 1: up and got my fucking throat slit. Got my throat

1790
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 1: slit by a bunch of ass clown mother fackers that

1791
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 1: I introduced my world too, and they took advantage of

1792
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 1: they sucked the life out of it. So at the

1793
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 1: end of the day, I'll say this, give me my

1794
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 1: fucking money and go about your way and that's it.

1795
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:50,720
Speaker 1: And I am so mother and disappointed, and I'll call

1796
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 1: out Kyle. I am so disappointed because I think it

1797
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 1: was the higher ups. I think it was the Shahidi's

1798
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: that made you go and be who you are right now,

1799
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 1: because that's not who I met when I fucking met you,

1800
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 1: that's not who I fucking met. You fucked me, you

1801
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: know you fucked me, and that's that. So at least

1802
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 1: make it right and no more skimming. I had to say, buddy,

1803
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of ship anymore. I don't give a

1804
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm already where I'm at peace. This podcast space is very,

1805
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 1: very very complex and complicated. What's happening. There's a lot

1806
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:34,480
Speaker 1: of people are not happy would have split ad revenue

1807
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 1: kind of deal. And if you don't have ownership, that's

1808
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 1: what you're doing. And if you're not investing, you don't

1809
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 1: get ownership. It's just like a circle of things happening

1810
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 1: in this business where people are afraid to invest but

1811
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 1: want to participate, and then if you participate, you should

1812
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:55,799
Speaker 1: have invested. So it's a stalemate right there. Now here's

1813
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 1: the person named Kyle, who is kind of the forefront

1814
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:04,600
Speaker 1: of full same podcast, responding to Bob's allegations to the

1815
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 1: back and forth Instagram. I don't do the social media

1816
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: drama shit. That's seriously not my thing. But with all

1817
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 1: the ship Bob has been lying about on social media,

1818
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 1: he's pretty much backed me into a corner now and

1819
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 1: attacking something that I've built for ten years, poured my blood,

1820
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: sweat and tears into. So there's no choice. I got

1821
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 1: to clear some shot up. So first things first, Bob

1822
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 1: is saying on social media that we owe him money.

1823
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,919
Speaker 1: That is a complete live We don't owe Bob manery assent.

1824
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 1: He's also saying that he had the worst deal, a

1825
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 1: terrible deal for the podcast. But guys, in the ten

1826
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,559
Speaker 1: months that he was on the show, he made one

1827
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 1: point two million dollars one point two million in ten months.

1828
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you guys exactly what his deals. So

1829
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:51,759
Speaker 1: this is Bob's deal. I typed it out on screen

1830
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 1: on Instagram here too. Also, he had not one, but

1831
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: two different lawyers look over this deal, and it is

1832
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: extremely generous. If you guys do not understand, I'm gonna

1833
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 1: pull it up here. So he got thirty percent of

1834
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 1: the ad revenue of the show. He never owned it.

1835
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:07,959
Speaker 1: He always says he owns it. He never had ownership

1836
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,799
Speaker 1: of the show. On top of that, he had seven

1837
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: point five K an episode, usually around thirty K a month,

1838
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 1: if that's four episodes, fifty percent of the podcast merch,

1839
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 1: which is insane. First class flights, hotels, transportation all covered

1840
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 1: by US. The production, the staff, and the equipment all

1841
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 1: covered by US, so Bob had no expenses. Everything production

1842
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 1: wise was covered by NELK. All Bob had to do

1843
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 1: was show up, say two, I personally have taken zero

1844
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 1: percent of any of the podcast earnings. Anything that I've

1845
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 1: technically made has gone right back into the show, paying

1846
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 1: for the staff, paying for the production, paying for the travel.

1847
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 1: But Bob's one point two million. On top of that,

1848
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 1: the opportunity to join the full send team and to

1849
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: get exposure obviously from you guys, from the craziest fucking

1850
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 1: fan base on the Internet. That's priceless, Like so many

1851
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 1: doors were opened up for him, and the amount of

1852
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 1: huge brand deals that he got and did on his

1853
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 1: Instagram because of this, Like it's insane. The thing I

1854
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 1: want to talk about is Bob saying that he built

1855
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 1: the show. He got all the guests. I will give

1856
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 1: credit to Bob. He got some fire ass guests, but

1857
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: the vast majority of guests were gotten by Team fulls End.

1858
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 1: And he also took credit from Dana White forgetting Donald Trump.

1859
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:24,640
Speaker 1: All right, so I'm gonna make a next slide. I'm

1860
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 1: gonna put who got which guests? Too lazy to say

1861
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:34,680
Speaker 1: it out loud. Actually, like, I considered Bob one of

1862
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 1: my best friends, so I still have enough respect for

1863
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 1: him where I'm not gonna be pouring out personal details

1864
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 1: on social media. But you guys see how he is

1865
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:48,839
Speaker 1: on social media and behind the scenes, his behavior became

1866
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 1: like completely uncontrollable, and you know, like, I'm all about

1867
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 1: the work hard, play hard shit. No one is more

1868
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 1: than me. But my thing is when it affects the

1869
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 1: team and the staff and the operation and just full

1870
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: send as a whole, That's when I personally got to

1871
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 1: draw the line and like make a tough decision. So

1872
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 1: for months and months and months, I'm trying to figure

1873
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 1: this out. How can I make this guy happy. I'm

1874
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 1: working with him one on one, I'm working with his manager,

1875
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,679
Speaker 1: his manager is trying to work with him. Nothing's working,

1876
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 1: And eventually he came to me with a brand new deal,

1877
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,640
Speaker 1: and it was the day before the game episode, and

1878
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 1: he said, Kyle, you have twenty four hours to sign

1879
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 1: this brand new deal or I'm not showing up to

1880
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 1: the game tomorrow. And I said, what the fuck, Bob,

1881
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 1: that's not realistic. You're coming to me with a new

1882
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 1: deal and expecting me to sign it in twenty four hours.

1883
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 1: That's not enough time. I said, come to the game

1884
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:44,679
Speaker 1: episode tomorrow. Let's crush the episode, and you have my word,

1885
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 1: Me and you, one on one, will sit down, will

1886
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 1: figure it out. We will come to some sort of solution,

1887
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 1: like you're my boy, Bob, Like we can figure this out.

1888
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 1: And I begged with them and I plead with him,

1889
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 1: and he didn't show up. He missed the game episode,

1890
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 1: and instead of showing up, he just took to social

1891
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 1: media so quick and just started posting shit about me,

1892
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 1: just blasting me, posting lies and to me right there,

1893
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 1: like that was the final straw, Like I felt so

1894
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: taken advantage of and disrespected for someone that was supposed

1895
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 1: to be my friend. Like a friend doesn't go to

1896
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 1: social media no matter what, to blast you like that.

1897
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 1: That's something that a friend doesn't do. And I'll be honest,

1898
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 1: that actually really hurt me that Bob did that to me. Yeah, guys,

1899
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. After that, I was like, you

1900
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: know what, it's time to part ways. And this is

1901
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 1: gonna be the last time I talk about this. By

1902
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 1: the way, you're gonna see Bob talk about this for

1903
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 1: months and months and months and months. So enjoy that.

1904
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm getting back to work. I got shipped to do,

1905
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 1: I got videos to film, and that's it. Thank you, guys,

1906
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:50,560
Speaker 1: Love you as you see that. Man, it's just extremely

1907
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 1: hard to keep these podcasts together. It seems like if

1908
01:46:56,000 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 1: he gets over two people, a problem arrives. Almost like,

1909
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 1: no matter what happens if more than two people on

1910
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 1: the podcast, when it starts to make money, somebody is

1911
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 1: unhappy with their cut, and you can't really identify who's

1912
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 1: pulling water unless it's just painfully obvious. And even then

1913
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 1: it gets bleury sitting in that seat because in that seat,

1914
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: even though it's painfully obvious from the outside, from the inside,

1915
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 1: you still are part of that process. So you gain

1916
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:31,799
Speaker 1: a certain level of confidence, and that may lend itself

1917
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 1: to misunderstanding your true value because standing next to people.

1918
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 1: Feels totally different than standing by yourself. It's a different fitting.

1919
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 1: Like as much as I talk about how easy this

1920
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,920
Speaker 1: podcast things like, you can draw a blank in this

1921
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 1: space and that's with people around, so picture by yourself right,

1922
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 1: So again this is a complex position to be in.

1923
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 1: They were making a lot of money. But again this

1924
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 1: is an AD split kind of deal. And this is

1925
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 1: the deals that's giving out in this industry right now,

1926
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 1: with all these kind of ADS split deals. But here's

1927
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 1: the kitchen and the people who really believe in you.

1928
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 1: They give you an AD split deal and a per

1929
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 1: EPI show fee to help creatively develop the show. If

1930
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:20,759
Speaker 1: they're just trying to give you an AD split deal,

1931
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 1: I don't know really what that means. But the Purse

1932
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 1: Show episode and the upfront investment show you like, Yo,

1933
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 1: we're your partners. We're gonna make sure this show makes money.

1934
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:34,679
Speaker 1: We're invested. And sometimes that's a hard line to draw,

1935
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, but in business sometimes you have to draw

1936
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 1: those unfortunate lines. But just look at how many podcasts

1937
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 1: don't broke up, and look at what they're breaking up for.

1938
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 1: It's always about money. Something happen with the money. We

1939
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 1: ain't like how the money was giving that we ain't

1940
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 1: respect what he was doing with the money, the payment

1941
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: that accounted, this, that, in the third, this that, and

1942
01:48:55,280 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 1: the third's like, it's extremely hard. My business model hopefully

1943
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 1: works in this space, but I have to trust it

1944
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: and try to evolve it, you know, kind of plant

1945
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 1: a flag with people to move around, you know, kind

1946
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 1: of understanding, all right, that's how he did it. I'm

1947
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 1: gonna do it like this, you know, but it says

1948
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 1: a lot as well. Say. It speaks to how much

1949
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:21,559
Speaker 1: money that they're making on the pard via merch and

1950
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 1: those other things. He made one point two million in

1951
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 1: ten months. That speaks to the power of that show.

1952
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: With his thirty percent or whatever it might have been,

1953
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:35,840
Speaker 1: he made almost one point five. But again he was

1954
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 1: under the impression. And I don't know what to believe

1955
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 1: because if he's getting those kind of guests and working

1956
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 1: as hard as he was working, that's what I mean,

1957
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 1: creatively supporting the project. It's like he was on set,

1958
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:52,759
Speaker 1: he was there, he was investing, He paid Antony o'brown.

1959
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 1: He was the grease ball, knocking on doors, making phone calls,

1960
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 1: trying to make it happen. So me myself, I saw

1961
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 1: him help be that when they got to that spot

1962
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 1: right there, when they did that, Antonio Brown and they

1963
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 1: had a couple of our people over there back to back,

1964
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, Oh, they're cooking over there. And

1965
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 1: he was behind some of that and that sweat equity.

1966
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 1: Not only about that payment. That payment is one thing,

1967
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: but Antonio Brown had just ran off the field from

1968
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,560
Speaker 1: Temple Bay at that time. Tory Lanz was in that

1969
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 1: meeting the Stallion situation at that time, right, it was very,

1970
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 1: very important to have them on camera. Everybody want to participate.

1971
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 1: When you're making millions, bro, it's easy to get somebody

1972
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 1: to participate. I keep telling people, you gotta catch a

1973
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 1: dude at the post office. You got to be a

1974
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,639
Speaker 1: part of what I'm putting in the envelope. You can't

1975
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 1: way too is delivering that you're gonna receive an envoid.

1976
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 1: Feel what I'm saying and investing is important, but knowing

1977
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 1: what the investing is even more important. You know. I

1978
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 1: think in this space, man, if you got somebody to

1979
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 1: understand it in a certain way, yo, I don't know

1980
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 1: what people are not understanding. There ain't nobody that can

1981
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 1: speak about the space like that, right, ain't nobody put

1982
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 1: that much into it. So I put a lot into it.

1983
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,759
Speaker 1: And that's why minds is working the way it's working,

1984
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 1: you know. And that's respectfully and love to the game,

1985
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 1: love to the universe, love to the Creator, God and

1986
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:24,600
Speaker 1: all things working in my favor. But to see this

1987
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 1: happened with four seeing, to see it happened with Joe Budden,

1988
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 1: to see it happened with I Am Athlete, To see

1989
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 1: it happened with all the Smoke, To see it happened

1990
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 1: with more and more podcasts. Right, It's just it starts

1991
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:42,640
Speaker 1: to let you know. This is how you know the

1992
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 1: business is in intact, it's a new industry. So you

1993
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 1: see a lot of people, Man, I thought it was this,

1994
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 1: And that's why you gotta make sure people are clear

1995
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:55,719
Speaker 1: on what you're what you're saying. It's like, Yo, you're

1996
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 1: gonna make some money with me, but right when it

1997
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 1: blow up, you getting out the car and then you're

1998
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 1: gonna feel away, nigga run off and get five hunting

1999
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,760
Speaker 1: me or something. You know what I'm saying. So if

2000
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 1: you want to invest in something, it's different then giving

2001
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 1: somebody an ad deal, but investing in it, people won't equity.

2002
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 1: How much equity is now the conversation, what do you got,

2003
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 1: how much you are to involved? How much money is

2004
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 1: coming with it? What does that money allow you to

2005
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:24,600
Speaker 1: build out? You understand? And these things are what I

2006
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:26,919
Speaker 1: feel as though it's the right thing to talk about.

2007
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 1: But full of Sin is in an unfortunate situation. Man.

2008
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to give y'all a long part because I've

2009
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 1: been giving y'all short ones. We got the little baby

2010
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 1: interview out right now. I need everybody to go see that, y'all.

2011
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: Let me know, man, share that Share It's up their

2012
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 1: podcast for all my new listeners. This is the vibration

2013
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: over here right. This is what we do. We give

2014
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 1: game out. We're having the biggest conversations in the world.

2015
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 1: You're dealing with the best podcast in the space. I

2016
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 1: say thank you for your attendance, I say thank you

2017
01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 1: for your participation, and I say salute to the Patreon members.

2018
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:04,639
Speaker 1: It's up there. Podcasts the biggest thing in history. Gol