1
00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,359
Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

2
00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,840
Speaker 2: All right, this is our fourth of July week episode.

3
00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,520
Speaker 2: It's going to be short and sweet. We want everyone

4
00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,760
Speaker 2: to just be celebrating with their family. KB, what are

5
00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:17,880
Speaker 2: your Fourth of July plans?

6
00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,920
Speaker 3: I think we're going to sneak to a Dada show.

7
00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,480
Speaker 3: He actually we usually do Fourth of July at our house.

8
00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,320
Speaker 3: It's really precious. Our neighborhood's cute. No need to go anywhere,

9
00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,920
Speaker 3: is how I kind of feel. But Dada is local ish.

10
00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,720
Speaker 3: I think he's a couple hours away, so we're going

11
00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,560
Speaker 3: to try. We're going to try to sneak to Dada

12
00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,880
Speaker 3: show on the fourth of July.

13
00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,920
Speaker 1: So does he know it? Would it be a secret.

14
00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,440
Speaker 3: I might have to tell him just logistics wise. I

15
00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,960
Speaker 3: don't like us ever on the road that long without

16
00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,159
Speaker 3: him knowing that we're on the road altogether. So yeah,

17
00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,720
Speaker 3: but I think it'll be sweet, and I just I'm

18
00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,560
Speaker 3: trying to rewrite Fourth of July. This might be a

19
00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,920
Speaker 3: little deeper than you thought it would be. But I ah,

20
00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,480
Speaker 3: so dumb.

21
00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,840
Speaker 2: It's not dumb. Emotions are not dumb, Feelings are not dumb.

22
00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,080
Speaker 2: Crying is not dumb.

23
00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,080
Speaker 3: Well, and you know, my whole heart and every little

24
00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,640
Speaker 3: piece of my story. So I'm very careful to share

25
00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,520
Speaker 3: like almost everything on here. But you know, Fourth of

26
00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,280
Speaker 3: July was always like my absolute favorite growing up. It

27
00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,759
Speaker 3: was my favorite.

28
00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,200
Speaker 1: So just the last few.

29
00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,720
Speaker 3: Years, July has been a little rough. I lost my

30
00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,920
Speaker 3: dad in July five years ago this year, and I've

31
00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,600
Speaker 3: lost a lot in July over the years, and I

32
00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,959
Speaker 3: just it's I think a little bit of me is

33
00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:40,200
Speaker 3: like grieving. I used to be like Captain America when

34
00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,400
Speaker 3: July would hit, like I'm your girl for the barbecue

35
00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,320
Speaker 3: and the you know, I'm the blueberry. Yes, it's the blueberry,

36
00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,320
Speaker 3: strawberry banana American flag making person in me. And I

37
00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,200
Speaker 3: I think it's tricky when I don't I don't want

38
00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,880
Speaker 3: to turn it over to it feeling like the calendar landmine.

39
00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,040
Speaker 1: But I do feel that quite a bit.

40
00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,520
Speaker 3: And I you know, obviously I tell you a lot

41
00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,480
Speaker 3: of things off of this podcast, and you know all

42
00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,040
Speaker 3: of it. But I'm trying to rewrite that so intentionally

43
00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,080
Speaker 3: this year, and I can just feel it's sneaking up

44
00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:15,720
Speaker 3: on me a little.

45
00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,560
Speaker 2: So I think it's hard when there's been tough seasons

46
00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,720
Speaker 2: and it's in that month. I've got one, you know,

47
00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,640
Speaker 2: it's it's later in the year and it's.

48
00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:26,880
Speaker 1: One of those.

49
00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,680
Speaker 2: At the same time, No, I'm so glad I'm holding

50
00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,280
Speaker 2: each other up. But it's hard because though it's been

51
00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,520
Speaker 2: a year or years removed from it, there's still that

52
00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:44,080
Speaker 2: creepy emotion that comes up around a certain date or

53
00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,000
Speaker 2: a certain month that represents something that's really hurtful. And

54
00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,200
Speaker 2: I think it's okay to feel both things. And I

55
00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,200
Speaker 2: think each year it'll my hope, you know, even for

56
00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,440
Speaker 2: myself and those I've got a specific one in mind,

57
00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,440
Speaker 2: is like that it lightens every year, you know that

58
00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,840
Speaker 2: it's not as tough, but acknowledging where you are today

59
00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,000
Speaker 2: versus where you were then.

60
00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,320
Speaker 3: And I think it is important to just like say it.

61
00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,440
Speaker 3: I know we're not the only ones that go through this,

62
00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,720
Speaker 3: and like, you know, there's I know, even this week

63
00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,040
Speaker 3: we've lost Like I think of even Kyle Busch's family

64
00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,959
Speaker 3: right like they're going into Father's Day and they don't

65
00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,839
Speaker 3: get to have their data, and like I just always think, like, man,

66
00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,640
Speaker 3: I hope this time of year doesn't always sneak up

67
00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,600
Speaker 3: on them that same way.

68
00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's just really.

69
00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,400
Speaker 3: At least it's honest. If nothing else, I don't have

70
00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,520
Speaker 3: it buttoned up. And I'm just hoping that us kind

71
00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,000
Speaker 3: of getting away and going to do something different will

72
00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,840
Speaker 3: kind of like rewrite it in my brain a little bit.

73
00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

74
00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,960
Speaker 2: No, for sure. I think there's so many different ways

75
00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,520
Speaker 2: to look at it. It's like I have my very favorite,

76
00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,400
Speaker 2: I mean, hands down, my favorite photo I've ever taken

77
00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,680
Speaker 2: is it's on my wall here in the podcast room,

78
00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,720
Speaker 2: and it's me on It's Fourth of July week and

79
00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,360
Speaker 2: it's with me in Jolie and Jace the year that

80
00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,040
Speaker 2: I got divorced, because I remember Fourth of July for

81
00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,160
Speaker 2: me was like the same. It's like Michigan Heart growing up,

82
00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,760
Speaker 2: it's my it's my absolute favorite holidays. We were always

83
00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,520
Speaker 2: at the lake Lake Manuka, you know, go up to

84
00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,240
Speaker 2: Traverse City and you know the Cherry Fast. I mean,

85
00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:23,280
Speaker 2: it was just my favorite childhood memories. And you know,

86
00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,360
Speaker 2: I remembered fearing going up north that Fourth of July

87
00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,320
Speaker 2: because it was gonna be the first year, you know,

88
00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,240
Speaker 2: just me and me and the two kids, like just

89
00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:39,200
Speaker 2: us three and not allowing that experience or that divorce

90
00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,920
Speaker 2: to to taint that week for me, you know, and

91
00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,040
Speaker 2: it's like kind of the same thing, like for what

92
00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,560
Speaker 2: you're going through. It's like not allowing what happened to

93
00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,320
Speaker 2: taint what you love and enjoy. Like that's why, like

94
00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,160
Speaker 2: I look at that photo and it is like it

95
00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,760
Speaker 2: gives me so much joy because their faces are smiling

96
00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,040
Speaker 2: and they're happy, and like there is a sense of

97
00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,719
Speaker 2: like such peace, and like I can feel it in

98
00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,760
Speaker 2: the photo, Like even in myself, I'm like there is

99
00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,880
Speaker 2: just like peace and there's relaxation, and like I was like,

100
00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let what happened ruin my favorite time,

101
00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,760
Speaker 2: you know, and my time for my kids. And so

102
00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,680
Speaker 2: I think like you get to anchor in being like

103
00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,240
Speaker 2: you get to rewrite it. You get to rewrite your

104
00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,320
Speaker 2: July how you want.

105
00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm going a steady like attempt to just

106
00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,640
Speaker 3: do that year by year. And I do think it

107
00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,000
Speaker 3: also just speaks to and we say this a lot

108
00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,839
Speaker 3: on here, but just the idea that you truly just

109
00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,800
Speaker 3: don't know what everyone is going through, Like, yeah, you

110
00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,920
Speaker 3: just don't know. I mean even the last few weeks

111
00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,839
Speaker 3: have just been a little heavy for me in general.

112
00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,880
Speaker 3: And I will share always the joy and not in

113
00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,160
Speaker 3: the attempt to make everything with picture perfect, but just

114
00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,000
Speaker 3: like today I had actually, you know, I had posted

115
00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,320
Speaker 3: something about grief and how it's sneaky and it can

116
00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,400
Speaker 3: ambush and whether you're mourning the loss of a person

117
00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:58,360
Speaker 3: or an idea or anything, and just the flood of

118
00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,679
Speaker 3: people that were like, gosh, I needed this today because

119
00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,920
Speaker 3: it's the summer months and everyone's living their best life.

120
00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,039
Speaker 3: But there's still you know, that can still tap you

121
00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,200
Speaker 3: on the shoulder no matter what time or where you are.

122
00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, for sure, And I think that's you

123
00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,320
Speaker 2: know again, it's acknowledging it, not sweeping it under, but

124
00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,520
Speaker 2: then going oh, you know this is uh, it's not

125
00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,120
Speaker 2: going to steal the joy now, and then you can

126
00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,120
Speaker 2: look at the growth of it later too, you know

127
00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,080
Speaker 2: what I mean, and see like how far you've come,

128
00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,400
Speaker 2: because again and remind me of that when I'm going

129
00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:30,919
Speaker 2: through mine.

130
00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:32,520
Speaker 3: I'll see you in a couple of months.

131
00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:33,640
Speaker 1: I see you in a.

132
00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,080
Speaker 2: Couple of months. But I think it's I think it's

133
00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,960
Speaker 2: good to feel both and for me, like I'm I'm so,

134
00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,919
Speaker 2: I could never imagine Fourth of July looking like what

135
00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,599
Speaker 2: it's gonna you know, God, willing look like, you know,

136
00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,480
Speaker 2: we now that we have our lake house, and last

137
00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,680
Speaker 2: year's Fourth of July was a bit of a rough one.

138
00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,880
Speaker 2: I told I was telling Alan when we were doing

139
00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,800
Speaker 2: our check in the other day. I said, listen, I said,

140
00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,120
Speaker 2: you know, this is minus our wedding week because we

141
00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,719
Speaker 2: left for scott And I said, this is the like

142
00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,560
Speaker 2: the second time I haven't gone up to Michigan for

143
00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,760
Speaker 2: Fourth of July. And I said, and there's going to

144
00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,440
Speaker 2: be there is that like sadness, you know, But I

145
00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,200
Speaker 2: was like, I'm excited to spend it at the lake,

146
00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,400
Speaker 2: our new lake house. I said, but you know, I

147
00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,040
Speaker 2: my Grandma's still at Lake Minooka, and you know, my

148
00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,400
Speaker 2: aunts and uncles and cousins, and so I said, there

149
00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,520
Speaker 2: will be. It does make me sad a little bit,

150
00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,000
Speaker 2: but I'm excited for, you know, the memories that we're

151
00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,760
Speaker 2: going to start doing, you know, at our lakehouse.

152
00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,680
Speaker 1: So I'm pumped about that.

153
00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,960
Speaker 3: I know, I don't want to take our suite Fourth

154
00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,040
Speaker 3: of July episode. I'm like, Happy Birthday America, cause I'm

155
00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,080
Speaker 3: weeping on wine.

156
00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,080
Speaker 2: No, no, I no, I think it's I think it's no,

157
00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,840
Speaker 2: it's it's it's uh I know someone else probably will

158
00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,720
Speaker 2: have something and the same thing. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

159
00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm looking forward to it. And then

160
00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,800
Speaker 2: we're going to have Alan's parents in town with us

161
00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,880
Speaker 2: for the Fourth of July, so they'll be still They're

162
00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,600
Speaker 2: going to be able to witness a fourth of July

163
00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,320
Speaker 2: on the lake.

164
00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,040
Speaker 3: A proper fourth of July America.

165
00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,360
Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to that. And then you just

166
00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:06,000
Speaker 2: enjoying the rest of July because it's going to be hopefully,

167
00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,640
Speaker 2: you know, work stuff will start coming in August, and.

168
00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.

169
00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,680
Speaker 3: Maybe how long does his parents How long do his

170
00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:12,320
Speaker 3: parents stay for?

171
00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,760
Speaker 2: They're going to be staying for a month, So I'm

172
00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,600
Speaker 2: going to be the hostess with the mostess Cramer.

173
00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,040
Speaker 3: How do we feel? Give me a temperature read on

174
00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,600
Speaker 3: that optimistic.

175
00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,280
Speaker 2: Listen for me, it's it's a joy to have them come.

176
00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,800
Speaker 2: They haven't come in two years, so I'm I'm excited,

177
00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,560
Speaker 2: you know, to be able to host and and I

178
00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,080
Speaker 2: I only have one small fear. I still just don't

179
00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,720
Speaker 2: understand his dad very well.

180
00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,160
Speaker 3: Hey, this can let's make it work to our advantage,

181
00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,839
Speaker 3: because so I a month is a long time to

182
00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,400
Speaker 3: not know what somebody see.

183
00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and most of the time it's only

184
00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:48,600
Speaker 2: been like a couple days, and so I just look

185
00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,480
Speaker 2: at him and I'm like, I laugh, you know, but

186
00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,599
Speaker 2: I'm going to really I'm gonna I might you know,

187
00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,520
Speaker 2: maybe I'll put him on Instagram and see if anyone

188
00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,559
Speaker 2: else can understand him, because I'm sure as hell can't.

189
00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,360
Speaker 3: I bet, I bet the longer you're with him, the

190
00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,520
Speaker 3: more you're gonna get it. That's my that's my wish.

191
00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,280
Speaker 3: But I am coming over to hang out with them

192
00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:08,520
Speaker 3: because I can't. I cannot understand Allan's dad and Alan's

193
00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,360
Speaker 3: dad thinks Alan's dad is so funny, and so Alan's

194
00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,079
Speaker 3: dad is a joke and then he laughs that big,

195
00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,760
Speaker 3: like big full Scottish laugh, and his sweet mom is

196
00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,360
Speaker 3: just sitting over there in the corner like, oh this man,

197
00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,760
Speaker 3: Bless his man. But I think that's my favorite part

198
00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,480
Speaker 3: about him. He's a good time just asking.

199
00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,640
Speaker 2: He's so fun, yeah, so fun. So it's going to

200
00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,600
Speaker 2: be a blast. But we hope all of you guys

201
00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,160
Speaker 2: have a really safe, beautiful, happy, connected fourth of July,

202
00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,000
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, we'll just be praying for all you

203
00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,960
Speaker 2: guys that you guys are safe, whatever wherever your plans

204
00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,960
Speaker 2: take you and KB.

205
00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:46,800
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you.

206
00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,360
Speaker 2: Before it's a July babe, let's uh this is it's

207
00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,120
Speaker 2: gonna be a good one.

208
00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,200
Speaker 3: It's redemptive freedom in a different way.

209
00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,720
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, ma'am, it is all right.

210
00:09:54,800 --> 00:10:06,040
Speaker 2: Love love you, I love you, Bie,