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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John middlecop three and Out podcast,

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Speaker 1: who officially in August football officially back. All the veterans

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Speaker 1: I'm a happy camper. I got Tiger Woods in the

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Speaker 1: Bay Area, we got a golf major, we got football starting,

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Speaker 1: Baseball holding on by a thread. Basketball's rolling. Sports are back.

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Speaker 1: You know your sports are back? You know there was.

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Speaker 1: It kind of went viral on Twitter. Kyle Brandt of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Network UH tweeted that many you know, sports

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Speaker 1: reporters that didn't want sports to come back because they

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Speaker 1: were rooting for Corona, and of course all the sports

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Speaker 1: reporters got offended by it. Like listen, it is a

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Speaker 1: complicated subject. I'm just glad they're back. I don't have

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Speaker 1: go to work and have a business. And I also

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Speaker 1: want everyone to be safe. But I'd be lying if

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Speaker 1: I'm pro sports. I was rooting for sports to come back,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad they're back. Uh. I'll dive into what

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Speaker 1: the major difference though, in is Baseball has had some

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Speaker 1: he didn't take any blames, like, bro, you're the CEO. Uh.

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Speaker 1: many times. You know, you gotta be careful for these

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Speaker 1: they're just gonna have to do it like you'r veteran

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Speaker 1: Something I saw Mike Mayock said to Albert Brier about

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Speaker 1: I'll dive into that, and then just some other NFL stories.

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Speaker 1: A lot happened. I mean, Doug Peterson got Corona, the

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Speaker 1: Rock bought the XFL. We'll dive into it all. And

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Speaker 1: then of course Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff is

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Speaker 1: I will answer your questions here. So go to three

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Speaker 1: Tip my hat to you. But let's start with this.

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Speaker 1: Every industry is completely different, even if they do something similar.

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Speaker 1: since I bought it. But like you just need to

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Speaker 1: buy a home, he needed to buy a home. We

429
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Speaker 1: had to buy. So it's just the smart thing to do.

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Speaker 1: And you can't always time when you want to buy

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Speaker 1: something or when you want to sell something. But he

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Speaker 1: put his house, he bought it. Let's just I'll just

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Speaker 1: use a relative like six thousand dollars. That's not the

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Speaker 1: actual number, but I'm just putting that out to make

435
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Speaker 1: it this for this exercise. And he put like sixty

436
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Speaker 1: or seventy thousand dollars into it, did a bunch of

437
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Speaker 1: stuff inside. He put in a little, uh little putting

438
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Speaker 1: green in the background. It was in the backyard. It

439
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: was sweet, really nice like track homes. And when he

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Speaker 1: tried to sell the home, he put it on the

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Speaker 1: market for what he paid for it plus what he

442
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Speaker 1: put into it, just trying to break even and he

443
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Speaker 1: wasn't gonna sniff. So we had to cut about thirty

444
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Speaker 1: thou dollars off the home to sell the house because

445
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: the house isn't necessarily his house was on the high end.

446
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Speaker 1: He had done a bunch of stuff to it, it

447
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Speaker 1: was really nice. The problem was the other houses on

448
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Speaker 1: the market. We're selling for a certain price, and everything

449
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: in real estate is just about cumps. Now. I would imagine,

450
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Speaker 1: you know, the Hollywood Hills or super nice areas in

451
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Speaker 1: New York or whatever city you live in kind of unique. Right,

452
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Speaker 1: you could put a home on the market and if

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Speaker 1: you get a guy that really wants it, he might

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Speaker 1: spend two x. Right it, most places, though, all based

455
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Speaker 1: on what your neighborhood is selling for. I would say

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Speaker 1: the majority of America is that way, non the super

457
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Speaker 1: top couple percent little areas. And he found that out

458
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Speaker 1: the hard way, and he kind of knew that going in,

459
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Speaker 1: but he was like kind of shocked. And I think

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Speaker 1: George Kittle is kind of getting screwed and might ultimately

461
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Speaker 1: get screwed because in football, you were paid on comps

462
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Speaker 1: and your camp as a player. It's not just other

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Speaker 1: players in the league, because like if you saw the

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Speaker 1: top ten list of the NFL, it was like Russell Wilson,

465
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Stephon Gilmore, Michael Thomas, right, Aaron Donald, all

466
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Speaker 1: these guys making stupid money. I mean, Mahomes, you know,

467
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Speaker 1: hundred fifty million, Russell Wilson twenty million, Aaron Donald ninety million,

468
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas got like sixty five million. The highest paid

469
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Speaker 1: tight end in league history when it comes to guaranteed

470
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: dollars was Austin Hooper this year at two million. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think everyone listening would go Austin Hooper and George

472
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: Kittle have nothing in common. There's not a coach in

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Speaker 1: football history that would want Austin Hooper over George Kittle.

474
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: George Kittle literally does everything that Austin Hooper does better,

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Speaker 1: and he's a dominant blocker. He's a badass. I mean,

476
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: he's an unstoppable force. But if you're the Niners, you

477
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Speaker 1: just don't pay George Kittle just because well you're sweet,

478
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Speaker 1: like Michael Thomas or Julio Jones. Albert Brier wrote a

479
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: really good kind of breakdown of the positions. The lowest

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Speaker 1: paid position non like kicker or punter in the league's

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Speaker 1: tight end. Obviously, quarterbacks make the most, the defensive ends,

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Speaker 1: the corners, the wide receivers. You know, Joey Bosa now

483
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Speaker 1: on average makes twenty seven million dollars a year. The

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Speaker 1: highest paid tight end, well, technically it's Hunter Henry because

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Speaker 1: he's on the franchise attack is like ten point nine

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Speaker 1: million dollars out. You would say, George Kittle, let's compare

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Speaker 1: him to Julio Jones with the forty Niners. Now, obviously

488
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Speaker 1: age factors in the forty Niners would not trade George

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Speaker 1: Kittle straight up for Julio Jones. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: do it either for Michael Thomas. Now i'd push back

491
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Speaker 1: say the Saints wouldn't trade Michael Thomas for George Kittle either.

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Speaker 1: But my point is when you say those type players

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Speaker 1: George Kittles in their conversation, but Michael Thomas and Julio Jones,

494
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Speaker 1: their teams don't even blink to give him sixty five

495
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. Now, Julio has earned it over a

496
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Speaker 1: long period of time. Michael Thomas star player, three years

497
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Speaker 1: in the league. Like George Kittle, it was pretty clear

498
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Speaker 1: you just pay the guy. The problem for George Kittle,

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Speaker 1: it was easy for Michael Thomas to sign that contract,

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Speaker 1: just like it was easy for Joey Bost to sign

501
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: a contract for a Hunter two million. Miles. Garrett, while

502
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: very very talented, i'd call him kind of an underachiever,

503
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: unlike Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald when they got paid.

504
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Speaker 1: Those guys have been the defensive player of the year.

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Speaker 1: They were clearly the most dominant player at their position.

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Speaker 1: I feel like when I watched Myles Garrett sometimes again

507
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: freak show around the corner, elite athletic attributes, and if

508
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Speaker 1: you watch him on the right game, he could dominate.

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Speaker 1: But I also watched some games like god, he's a

510
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: little soft Joey boss. I don't quite think that. But

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Speaker 1: both those two guys a hundred million dollars hundred two

512
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Speaker 1: million dollars, no big deal, guaranteed money. The Niners are like,

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Speaker 1: why would we give a guy fifty five million dollars

514
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Speaker 1: and guaranteed and more than double what the other what

515
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Speaker 1: the guy at his comp does. Why would someone give

516
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Speaker 1: my brother eight hundred fifty thousand dollars for his house.

517
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Speaker 1: Even he was like, hey, I'll leave you the furniture,

518
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Speaker 1: I'll leave you my multiple ninety in TVs. I did

519
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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff to the garage. I left your

520
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: putting green. They don't care. It's like, well, the house

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Speaker 1: next to you sold for ten thousand less than this house.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'll offer you. Ten thousand more. Right, that's

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Speaker 1: where George Kittle is in a tough spot. And I

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Speaker 1: understand where George Kittle. Sometimes you see some of these demands,

525
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Speaker 1: like Amari Cooper got sixty million dollars, well, but Mary

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Speaker 1: Cooper got sixty million dollars guaranteed. I would think it's

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Speaker 1: safe to say they have started their asking price around eighty.

528
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: Now George Kittle, I'm sure he is asking for sixty

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Speaker 1: fifty five million dollars and guaranteed, and the Niners are like,

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Speaker 1: maybe they'd give him thirty. But I don't think George

531
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: Kittle is crazy for asking for that much money. I

532
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: just don't know how you find a resolution, because good

533
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: teams and good organizations aren't into just shattering the market.

534
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: Like when they when the when the Saints gave Michael

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00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: Thomas basically a little more who or Julio Jones money,

536
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: it was still in the same ballpark. So when a

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00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: Mari Cooper gets less than Michael Thomas, they're all in

538
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: the same ballpark. You give George Kittle, even though George

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00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 1: Kittle has nothing in common with Austin Henry or even

540
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: or not Austin Henry, Austin Hooper or Hunter Henry who's

541
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: been hurt multiple times. And I like Hunter Henry, but

542
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, you catch my grift. Those guys make nothing

543
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: near the money he makes, or it would be asking for.

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00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: So I think it's a very very complicated deal. I

545
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: think what's crazy is we all agree the importance of

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Speaker 1: tight ends. Right, some of the best players in the

547
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: league over the last decade, Gronk for a period of time,

548
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: Kelsey for a period of time. Arts is a unique player,

549
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: but he's a dominant pass catcher. Uh. And these guys

550
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: just don't make that much money relative to their wide

551
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: receiver brethren who make double triple the amount of money

552
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: they make. And people get caught up in years, you know,

553
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: average per year. I think the Niners would gladly give

554
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: George the equivalent of, like, you know, two years, thirty

555
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: six million dollars guaranteed. We'll give you thirty six million

556
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed. Basically, the first couple of years, eighteen million

557
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed. So you do eighteen you know, I'll do

558
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: the math right now, eighteen let's do it times five,

559
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: So eighteen times five. So here's the deal. We'll give

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00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: you a five year deal ninety million dollars average per

561
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: year of eighteen million dollars guaranteed thirty six so it's

562
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: basically a two year contract. And if I'm George Kittle,

563
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: I say kick rocks. But the Niners would sign that

564
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: deal yesterday. And that's where I don't get caught up

565
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: on the average per year. That's where Joey Bossa, when

566
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Speaker 1: you say it makes twenty seven million dollars a year,

567
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: does seem crazy. But he did get a hundred and

568
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: two million dollars and the day he signed the contract,

569
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Speaker 1: he got seventy seventy eight million dollars signing bonus. Think

570
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: about that. Joey Bosa got seventy eight million dollars the

571
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: moment he signed his contract. More than likely you give

572
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: a tight end contract of million dollars guaranteed George Kittle

573
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: signing bonus like ten million dollars. So you go, Wait,

574
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa makes seven times more than me. And I'm

575
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Speaker 1: on a team that we just went to the Super

576
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: Bowl and I'm your best player and I don't have

577
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: the solution. Uh, and I'm not here like I just

578
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: get both sides. If I was George Kittle, I'm not

579
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Speaker 1: signing Anason Hooper deal, and if I'm the forty Niners,

580
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: I do struggle with giving them, you know, wide receiver

581
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: money just because why just because that's what we should do.

582
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: And then when you look at Corona and the salary

583
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: caps going down, it's a very very complicated situation. I

584
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: think the Niners will try to be aggressive, but they

585
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: they usually don't, you know, set record deals that they're

586
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: not the Dallas Cowboys where they wait till the last

587
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: minute and give out just stupid money. I wouldn't be

588
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: shocked if this if just goes the rest of the

589
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: year without a contract. Okay, let's fly just through some

590
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: stories that I've seen over the last whenever the last

591
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: time we talked UH. A pretty big story that hit

592
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Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon. Tim McManus, who covers the Eagles, who when

593
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Speaker 1: I worked there was covering the Eagles. I think he

594
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: worked for a radio station. Then he just knows his

595
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Speaker 1: ship reported yesterday Doug Peterson UH tested positive for the coronavirus.

596
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: I guess he had been tested multiple times. He's asymptomatic,

597
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: but obviously when that happens, he can't be around the team.

598
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: Douce Staley is the acting interim head coach until I

599
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: don't know the rules when you're ansymptomatic. When he come back,

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Speaker 1: if he passes a bunch of tests, I would imagine

601
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: they are gonna be very, very cautious about this, not

602
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: letting him come back. You know, for a while, I

603
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: know Juan Soto that the star young player for the Nationals,

604
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: tested positive for corona. He was asymptomatic. Then he started

605
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: testing negative and he wanted to play, and they wouldn't

606
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: let him. So, you know, tough time. Now. Unlike a

607
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: player with football coaches, it's not like Doug's touching anybody.

608
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: But still he's around the coaches. I would say at

609
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: minimum he's out a week, even if he keeps testing

610
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: negative and he's asymptomatic and he never gets sick. But

611
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: do staleya. I tweeted this yesterday. I'm sure I've talked

612
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: about him over the years. I think he's easily in

613
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: my time around the NFL and college football and even

614
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: just being around you know, some of the hardbo teams

615
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: and the Kyle Shanahan teams. Is one of the best

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00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 1: coaches I've ever seen. Uh, he's a position coach, he's

617
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: a running back coach when he plays a big role

618
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: in their offense. Do Stalle was just big time, like

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Speaker 1: he has a big time NFL coach, and uh, I

620
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: think it shows you why they chose him to lead

621
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Speaker 1: the group. I mean, I I just I called do

622
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: Staley a friend, but I I love the dude. He's

623
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: a badass. I'll never forget when Deshan Jackson wanted a

624
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: contract and uh, and coach Reid wasn't quite out of

625
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: practice because it was really early like war. It was

626
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: like pre warm ups and the punter was punting, and

627
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: it was like Macklin and DeShawn catching punts. I mean,

628
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: this is like they're just screwing around like practices asn't

629
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: even like twenty minutes away, and like Maclin is kind

630
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: of watching the Shawan Deshawn's acting weird. Deshaun like takes

631
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: the ball, punts it over the fence. Do starts lightening

632
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: into him. DeShawn kind of runs off the field moping,

633
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: and it was like Deuce was I think like an

634
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: intern at the time, and it was just whoa deuce

635
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: was not messing around me at the time, Deshaun was

636
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: easily one of our best players. You know I'm getting

637
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: like suspended a week later, but Douce didn't even flinch. Uh.

638
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: I love Douce Staley, complete stud The Rock bought the XFL. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't really have a take. I just think it's

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00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: kind of cool. I mean the XFL, I wouldn't say

641
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: it was thriving, but it was not gonna go under.

642
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 1: If the coronavirus doesn't happen, the XFL would have been

643
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: fine and Vince McMahon would have kept operating like it

644
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: is a functional business. And I think this year, with

645
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: all these guys that aren't gonna get a chance to play.

646
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 1: We talked about earlier, these undrafted free agents, and these

647
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be out of work, can utilize that

648
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: next year if the coronavirus is done, we get a

649
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Speaker 1: vaccine fully by you know, I don't pretend to be

650
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: a doctor into the fall early. You know, who knows

651
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: you read a million different things. But if they're able

652
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: to do the the XFL next year, some of a

653
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are gonna be able to get

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Speaker 1: a job. Uh. Cool the Rock. I mean he's a

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00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: good face yer league for sure. He's basically like this

656
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: generation's Arnold Swarzenegger. I'm a big Arnold Swarzenegger guy. You know.

657
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I think that the Arnold Schwarzenegger is

658
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: a little cooler than the rock I'm not saying the

659
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: Rocks fake, but he's got a little politician to him.

660
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: I thought that Arnold was, and maybe Arnold us too.

661
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: I was so young when Arnorable was so big, so

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00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: maybe I looked at it differently. But I'm a big

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Speaker 1: Arnold guy. I mean, Arnold became a politician, So we

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Speaker 1: might be talking about maybe they're the same guy one,

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00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: you know exactly, maybe the same guy uh Ab suspended

666
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: eight games. Not shocking. IM take is not changed. I

667
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't touch him with a ten football. I think he's

668
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: an all time great player. I think he's an all

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Speaker 1: time great talent. I just I wouldn't touch him. Maybe

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00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: I talked about that last week. I don't think I did,

671
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: but I I see seattles all over him that I'm

672
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: sure the Ravens are gonna be interested. I listen. I'll

673
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: be the first to acknowledge he is an elite player.

674
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Speaker 1: And I tend to be more Al Davis than I

675
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: do a stick in the mud when it comes to players,

676
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: I have no problem. Like the Cowboys signing Altam Smith,

677
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: I got no problem. But what I witnessed a b

678
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: do over to your period with the Raiders and then

679
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: just with his tweets. To me, it was like the

680
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: guy was just unhinged. You'd be one thing if his

681
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: life wasn't shambles, but he wasn't tweeting all the time

682
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: like he he'll go public with anything. I mean John

683
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: Gruden last year with the burnt feet, he put the

684
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: post of the thing on YouTube. It was just crazy.

685
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: He's just crazy. Rick Spielman, Minnesota Vikings general manager, got

686
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Speaker 1: a multi year extension. Uh. I think he's one of

687
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: the best general managers in football now. I don't love

688
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: the whole Kirk Cousins situation in terms of the extension,

689
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: But you know, my my buddies for the Bears, my

690
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: buddies in the scouting world, they're obviously in his division,

691
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: but just other guys in the league, I mean, they

692
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: couldn't think anymore highly of him. Um. I think him

693
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: and Zimmer are really really solid duo. You know, Zimmer

694
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: just it's kind of old school. They're just good at

695
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: picking football players and good at running a football operation.

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Speaker 1: I I I'm a big Rick Spielman guy. I'm a

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00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: big Spielman family guy. Gardner Minshew. Last week it was

698
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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford going on the COVID list, and just because

699
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: you go on the list, I don't Lane Johnson tweeted

700
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: out that he actually tested positive, but it could just

701
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: be that you were in contact with someone that tested positive.

702
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew starting quarterback for the Jags. It doesn't actually

703
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: matter that much right now because you're just doing walkthroughs.

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00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: It's not like you're actually on the field practicing. But

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00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, so Gardner Minshew on the COVID list. Sony

706
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Michelle is on the PUP list. I love Sony at

707
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: at Georgia, but it feels like, you know, he's his

708
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: career is trending in the wrong direction. I know he

709
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: had foot surgery in May. But anytime you're in the

710
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: populist I think the start of your season and just

711
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: sometimes your season can be in jeopardy, especially when you're

712
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: a guy that and have a track record. It's one

713
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: thing if like Richard Truman or J. J. Watt or

714
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox or just a guy that you know what

715
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna get Sony Michelle like out of the league

716
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: in two years or does he erect his career, resurrect

717
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: his career and become a good player. I don't know,

718
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: So we'll just have to keep an eye on what's

719
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Speaker 1: going on. Okay, let's dive into some questions for the

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Speaker 1: mail bag at John middlecoff is the handle you slide

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Speaker 1: right in and we uh and we answer your questions

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00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: here as in we meet because I got a phone

723
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: in my hand, I got a baseball game on the TV.

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00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: There's golf going on. I guess not going on, but

725
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: the golf major. I got basketball games. Have we got

726
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: a lot of sports, and we got a football baby,

727
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: and we got football. And let's start with the questions.

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00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: Also remember go to three and out and uh. Please

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00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: subscribe to the pod as well as leave a little review.

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Speaker 1: I greatly appreciate it. With the coronavirus affecting preseason practice

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00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: time for players and coaches, does this disproportionately of effect

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00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: one side of the ball, offense or defense? When the

733
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: season plays out? Would you expect final scores of games

734
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: to be higher or lower than average? Meaning will offenses

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00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: or defense have an advantage over others? As a result

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00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: of a limited practice. Well, the rule of thumb is

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00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: it usually affects the offense early in the season because

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00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: timing is such a big deal. And I'd say this

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00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: year more than any the no off season activities these guys,

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00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,959
Speaker 1: even some of them that worked out together, right, still

741
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: a pretty limited amount of time. Now, I think it

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00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: will disproportionately positively impact offenses that are returning. So for example,

743
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Tyler Lockett, DK Metcalf and those tight ends

744
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: like He'll be in good shape, Mahomes, Kelsey, Tyreek Kill,

745
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, Hardeman, same page, Lamar his guys in that offense,

746
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: same page, Forty Niners, Jimmy Kittle, those guys, same page.

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00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: I think any team with new quarterbacks I the same.

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00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: It's a good example of Saints will be okay. Uh

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00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: for example WinCE in Philly, Like they gotta incorporate those

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00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: guys back into the mix. All they injured wide receivers,

751
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: so that's kind of a lot of moving parts. The Patriots,

752
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: I know, Belichick is great, but like Cam Newton, Brady,

753
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: you know, incorporating with new offensive weapons. Now, typically the

754
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: defense is ahead. But here's where I pushed back a

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00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: little bit typically the defensive ahead, and definitely like back

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00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: in the day like Parcels and Walsh, because you're doing

757
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: double days and you were hitting and tackling well, I

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00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: would imagine there's not a team in the NFL that's

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00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: gonna tackle in the fall, like in the next fall.

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00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: I mean, we're here in the next month. Whenever they

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00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: can put on pads in like two weeks. It's kind

762
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: of crazy. They're not putting on pads until August fourteen,

763
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: I think of the date. Maybe the Chiefs and the

764
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: Texans can go a couple of days before that, but

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00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: I would be shocked if there's anything to the ground tackling.

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00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: So if you think about it, even if the offense

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00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: is like just think about like half the offense in

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00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: the league that have guys returning right, all the good teams,

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00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: the Ackers. I know they've got some new wide receivers,

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00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: but just like Davante and Aaron Uh, Jimmy Russell, Wilson, UH,

771
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and his crew, just those type teams, imagine

772
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: trying to tackle them in space when they know what

773
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: they're doing. The tackling the speed of the game, which

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00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: it's hard to duplicate in practice, especially when you're not

775
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: going to the ground. That's a great question. I guess,

776
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: in a roundabout way, I'm prepared to see everything offenses

777
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: be timing, be way off, tackling be really shitty. Like listen,

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00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: I love sport of football and obviously pays a lot

779
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: of my bills. But there's a chance, and I'm not

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00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: trying to be Debbie Downer, but the first couple of

781
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: weeks of the NFL season could look pretty bad. You know,

782
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: it just it just could look off. And I don't

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00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: think any of us should complain. It's it's pretty It's

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Speaker 1: pretty understandable, right, Two questions, what's your theory takes of

785
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: yours that you have a lot of belief in that

786
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: you would say most NFL people disagree with. Also, do

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00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: you think Tiger can get in contention at the PGA

788
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: Championship this week? Great Colin Kepica in your lineups. I

789
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: had no confidence in him and he was planned, but

790
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 1: glad to see he's hitting ready for a major Uh.

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00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: Part of it. I love kept on that course in Memphis.

792
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: I think the hardest part after your Tiger question first

793
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: is he's forty four years old and he's got a

794
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: bad back. The weather in this course at Harding Park. Like,

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00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm twenty five miles away from Harding Park. I live

796
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: in the suburbs on the other side of the Bay Bridge.

797
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: It's nine degrees here. I'm playing golf tomorrow. I'm gonna

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00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: sweat my ass off. I mean it's hot at Harding Park.

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Speaker 1: It's like sixty degrees windy, and it's right by the ocean.

800
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: It's cold. I think it's hard for guys bad backs

801
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: to play in the cold. Now the course is short,

802
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: So I think Tiger can you know, he can just

803
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: outthink people. He's like he's like, you know, Peyton Manning.

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00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: He's better than Peyton Manning that last year, but he's

805
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: like an older Peyton Manning. He's just smarter than everybody else.

806
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: But he doesn't quite have the game that he used

807
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: to have. But he can outthink it. So when the

808
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 1: courses get really hard, like the Masters, like hopefully this week,

809
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: I think he can use strategy. He can just outstrategize him.

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00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: Now it's difficult. Some of these guys hit it like

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Speaker 1: fifty yards past him. I don't know, it's gonna be hard.

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00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: The one thing in the NFL. I get pushed back.

813
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: I got some pushback on my take on Doc that

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00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys didn't screw up for not signing him. I

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00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I think I think a lot like my

816
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: my fellow friends in the in the league. You know,

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00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: we all kind of I tend to be I guess

818
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: pro management because I'm kind of on their side on

819
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. The Rock buys the XFL Pack

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00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: twelve agrees for some player demands, making them ineligible for

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Speaker 1: the n c double A. Pack twelve joins the XFL.

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Speaker 1: It's two thousand twenty. Who knows, Uh, that would be sweet.

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00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: I'd be all for that. If you tell me right

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Speaker 1: now the Pack twelve joins, Uh joins the XFL. This,

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00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm in it. It would you be shocked? Shocked if

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Speaker 1: Gronk is near the level of a Tier one tight

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00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: end Kittle and Kelsey this year. His last year was bad,

828
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: but now he's the healthiest he's been in nearly a decade.

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Speaker 1: If he wasn't as hard for me to believe he's

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Speaker 1: come back. It's not like he forgot how to play football,

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00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: especially with Tom. He's still a physical freak. In the

832
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: time off could actually help him move a little bit better.

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00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: The only thing that could limit him is Tampa's use

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Speaker 1: of him and efforts to keep him healthy for the

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Speaker 1: entire year. Now that they have their sights on a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl along with two other good tight ends, I

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Speaker 1: can't see a healthy Gronk being worse than his last

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00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: year when he was an elite blocker. Yeah, to me,

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Speaker 1: if Gronk is moving around, because remember that last year,

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00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: I think he struggled to move around and he was

841
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: just kind of beaten down, he could be a lot

842
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: more spry now. Typically guys don't just leave pro sports

843
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: in their early thirties after struggling with injuries and just

844
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: come storming back. So you know, I Gronk's gonna be

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00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: a good player. He's one of the greatest players probably.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, he's one of the truly

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Speaker 1: great non quarterbacks in the history of the NFL. He

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Speaker 1: was easily the best non quarterback on his own team

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Speaker 1: on several Super Bowl teams. He is an all time

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Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer. So if he was unhealthy

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Speaker 1: his last year, which he was, and he got healthy,

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say he could be really

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Speaker 1: good now. Like you said they got multiple tight ends.

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Speaker 1: But to me, they got multiple wide receivers. So is Brady.

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Speaker 1: Now him and Brady are gonna be on the same page.

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Speaker 1: But what about Evans, what about Godwin? I mean, those guys.

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Speaker 1: You could argue Evans to Godwin or arguably the best

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Speaker 1: duo in the league. But I with you, I'd say Kittle.

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Speaker 1: Kittle is a better player right now than Kelsey, just

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Speaker 1: because he's a better blocker. But you know, those guys

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Speaker 1: are younger, and they're just less injured, at least George is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even George kind of got beat up. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to not get beat up at kight end. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those Me and guy on my other

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Speaker 1: potter talking about it, we always say, like coaches love

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Speaker 1: tight ends. Well, no ship name. What if I went

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Speaker 1: to you and didn't tell you the position is like, well,

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Speaker 1: you got this guy, he blocks defensive ends. You know,

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Speaker 1: the guys they pay a hundred million dollars too, and

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Speaker 1: they do that, and then in the run game, that's

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Speaker 1: in the they can help in the passing game, do that.

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Speaker 1: In the run game, they can destroy those defensive ends.

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Speaker 1: If you get a good one, like a Gronk or

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Speaker 1: a Kiddle, and they can block all your linebackers. Also

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Speaker 1: in the passing game, they can dominate in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the field because they're bigger than everyone, no one

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Speaker 1: can cover them. And then the red zone they can

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Speaker 1: dominate with the jump balls to score a bunch of touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, no ship coaches like those guys. That's

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Speaker 1: what's crazy about them not making any money Like Kittle,

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Speaker 1: Kelsey and Gronk should have been making wide receiver money.

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Speaker 1: And say what you want about Jimmy Graham, and listen,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham towards the end wasn't that good because he

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Speaker 1: got injured, but and he was never a great blocker,

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Speaker 1: but he was worth wide receiver money. So when him

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Speaker 1: and the Saints got into it, like, say what you want,

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Speaker 1: like he deserved top of the market cash, and what

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Speaker 1: wide receivers right now are just flying by um flying

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Speaker 1: by those guys in terms of money. George from the

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Speaker 1: UK here Big Bears fan Love the Pod. Chicago took

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Speaker 1: Trabinsky in the seventeen draft, passing on Mahomes and Watson.

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Speaker 1: Hypothetical question. If Mahomes had gone to Chicago, do you

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Speaker 1: think he'd have the same success. Bears fans say, oh,

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Speaker 1: if we drafted Mahomes, we'd have won't been the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champs. I'm not so sure. What are your thoughts, Well,

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Speaker 1: he might not have played as a rookie, I would

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Speaker 1: say by a second year if they had fired John

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Speaker 1: Fox and brought in Matt Naggie the year they went

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Speaker 1: twelve and four with Trabinsky with that defense, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Mahomes would have won the m v P

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Speaker 1: for them, but how would they had not been dramatically better?

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Speaker 1: And they would They went eight and eight last year

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Speaker 1: with Trabinsky, who couldn't have been any worse. Now, would

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Speaker 1: he have been this all time great player that he's

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Speaker 1: turned in. Probably not, But I think with Naggy, who

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Speaker 1: definitely liked him coming out, they would have been pretty successful.

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Speaker 1: Because their defense, even last year when they didn't make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, was still a top five or six defense

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Speaker 1: in the league just relative to what it was the

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Speaker 1: year before. It wasn't that good, but for a playoff

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Speaker 1: team like if they just would have had a good offense,

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Speaker 1: the Bears would have been good. If you just put

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Speaker 1: the Bears defense on like the Houston Texans. You're talking

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Speaker 1: like Super Bowl contender. You know, you're talking about a

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Speaker 1: team that just probably wins thirteen games. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think he would have made a pretty big difference. I'm

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Speaker 1: twenty eight and grew up a Pats fan, basically only

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Speaker 1: remembering Brady in a small sample of blood cells the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: so safe to say the season is gonna be interesting,

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Speaker 1: to say the least. With all the cam talk, I

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Speaker 1: think something that's being overlooked is how great this actually

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Speaker 1: could be for Stidham this year. I feel like Stidham

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Speaker 1: has caught some ricos se shots, ricochet shots saying if

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Speaker 1: he was the guy, he'd be the starter this year

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Speaker 1: and we wouldn't need camp. Personally, I thought this could

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Speaker 1: be the best thing to happen to him. The Pats

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Speaker 1: clearly want to implement a new mobile quarterback system, and

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Speaker 1: now Stidham has a year under his belt learning the

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Speaker 1: Brady system and getting the timing down. But now he

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Speaker 1: gets to learn the new mobile system while building on

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Speaker 1: the skills of timing he learned last year without being

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Speaker 1: thrown into the fire. Does this seem logical or am

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Speaker 1: I just spins owning myself into thinking that the Pats

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Speaker 1: had no forethought into Brady leaving, and Newton just fell

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Speaker 1: into their laps. I think both things can be true.

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Speaker 1: I think Cam Newton fell into their laps. I mean

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Speaker 1: they got him five and fifty grand and I think

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Speaker 1: they really like George did him. And I think they

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Speaker 1: like George Didhom because they thought if Brady ever left

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Speaker 1: that they could change the offense a little bit before

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Speaker 1: a more mobile quarterback. Now they have to because of Cam,

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Speaker 1: and Cam if he's healthy, he's gonna be better in

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Speaker 1: staid him. And you're right, anytime you get to be

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Speaker 1: around Tom Brady for a year, it's gonna benefit you. Right.

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Speaker 1: It's benefited every quarterback that's come around there that could play.

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Speaker 1: Jacoby obviously, it's benefited Jimmy, it benefited Matt Castle, and well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that much about George Didhom, but how

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Speaker 1: could you not learn being around the guy. Now the

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Speaker 1: way that the league has changed, you've got to be

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Speaker 1: more mobile to play. And they would never ask most

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks to do what Tom did because those days are

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Speaker 1: kind of over just playing like that. So my take

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Speaker 1: would be, yes, he can one ud benefit now from

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Speaker 1: knowing multiple offenses knows what it takes to eat you

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Speaker 1: alive in the pocket and then knowing how a mobile

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Speaker 1: offense when the guys are on the move works as well.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the like ultimately words serve him well, big picture,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to it. Can the guy play,

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Speaker 1: you know, Can the guy complete passes? Can the guy

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Speaker 1: see blitz is? Can the guy understand defenses? Can they

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Speaker 1: put weapons around him? Which they don't really have right now?

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Speaker 1: So a lot of stuffs out of your control. But

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Speaker 1: anytime you got Bill Belichick as your head coach, Josh

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Speaker 1: Meandana's offensive coordinator and the Patriots culture like, he's got

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Speaker 1: a chance to be pretty good, So I I would

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Speaker 1: say you might be onto something there. Appreciate everyone hitting

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Speaker 1: me up, keep leaving d MS at John Middlecoff. Also

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Speaker 1: keep you know, subscribing to the podcast, and uh, enjoy

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Speaker 1: the week, enjoy football. Hopefully we'll start getting some stories,

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Speaker 1: but I mean they're just doing walkthroughs, but it's back,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully just keep our fingers crossed. Knock on some wood,

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Speaker 1: knock on wood. If you're with me Gruden style, we

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Speaker 1: can keep it back because I love football. So I'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you later this week.