1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: What's up everybody, dj Buck here, move the sticks. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 3: We've got our good friend Jim Nagy, executive director of 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 3: the Reese Senior Bowl, joining the show. First of all, Jim, 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 3: that's a it's a strong beard. That's eight out of ten. 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: It's come in full. I didn't know you had that capability. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 3: Great to see you, my buddy. 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: Good to see you guys too. It's kind of like 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a playoff beard. You know how 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: the hockey guys do the playoff beard. It's a little 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: bit We're four weeks away from picking a roster here, 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: so it's a little bit of this is like playoff 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: push time where we're trying to. 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: Watch all these players. 15 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: So that's that and just that and just general laziness 16 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: is why I've got a beard right now. 17 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: That is cool. 18 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 4: And you talked about being playoff time. You're getting close 19 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 4: to picking the rosters. Just with the people who are 20 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 4: kind of new to this when it comes to the 21 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl and how you go about the process. What 22 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: is the process like for you guys when it comes 23 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 4: to picking the roster. 24 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys know, so we you know, we tried 25 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: to build this thing out as close as close to 26 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: an NFL personnel department as we can with the budget 27 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: that we have. This year, we've got eleven former NFL 28 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: scouts on our staff. You know, the you know, the 29 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: thing for them is, you know, it's we kind of 30 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: put together the staff every year after after the draft. 31 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: That's kind of firing hiring firing cycle season for scout 32 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: for us, for scouts, we've all been through that. So 33 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: we've got eleven guys this year. They're all over the country. 34 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: We've got guys in Seattle and Arizona and you know, 35 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Baltimore. We're all over the place. So we'll 36 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: be at games every Saturday watching the games. Guys will 37 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: be at home all week watching the tape. We just 38 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: had a kind of a quarter poll check in a 39 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago on zooms with everyone, and then 40 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: we'll do a massive group zoom call here around or 41 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: Halloween and go over the board. And then the next 42 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: phase of the process is bringing the NFL guys in. 43 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: And a lot of the guys that. 44 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: The three of us broke into the league with now 45 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: are are now general managers. So we get on the 46 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: phone with those guys are an assistant GM or a 47 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: director of player of personnel or a college director or 48 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: something like that, and then just kind of compare notes 49 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: in compare grades. Because I say this all the time, 50 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: like we're putting this game on for them. We're certainly 51 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: not playing football and mobile after one week out of 52 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: the year. So we just want to bring the guys 53 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: they want to see, So we just compare notes. I 54 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: mean ninety five percent of the time where we're on 55 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: the same page. But you know, we're just again, the 56 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: end goal is to bring the guys they feel like 57 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: they need to see in mobiles. So that's that's it. 58 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: Then the invites will be going out that they're like 59 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: usually that first week in November. 60 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: It's been fun. How many years, Jim, Now have we 61 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: been able to bring in underclassmen? 62 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: Well, you know, it started with Phil Savage, a guy 63 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: you worked with DJ when Phil was running the game, 64 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: and they could bring in underclassmen if they graduate graduated 65 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: before the Senior Bowl. So that was always kind of 66 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: the rule we you know, when I got here, that 67 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: was a real point of emphasis for us, was to 68 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: take advantage of that rule. 69 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: And really identify those guys. 70 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: Like the agent community was really good about that, you know, 71 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: helping us out with what agents were thinking about, what 72 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: underclassmen are thinking about coming out, you know, with last 73 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: year of the league League Office open it up so 74 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 1: now it's all the underclassmen. 75 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: I feel like that that messaging got out a little late. 76 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: The NFL didn't make that announcement last year until that 77 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: first week in November, so you know, I think a 78 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: lot of players have it in the back of their 79 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: mind what their pre draft process is going to look like. 80 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: So again, we had we had ten first round picks 81 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: last year. It was it was our best year we've 82 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: had in a long time. I mean, all those guys 83 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: were seniors. We didn't get a single junior first rounder. 84 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: So I feel like we've got we've got a lot 85 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: of opportunity for growth this year to get some of 86 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: those juniors in the game. And again you probably saw 87 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: it with you know, Pete Thamill put something out over 88 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: the weekend about he talked to twenty NFL guys and 89 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: they're all over the place on the quarterbacks. But that 90 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: works in our favor certainly. And if you and I 91 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: know you guys. You guys are busy. You all got 92 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: like three or four different jobs going right now with 93 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: your play by play stuff in the NFL. 94 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: And all that. 95 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: But the more you talk to guys in the league, 96 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: that's pretty much what teams boards are looking like now, 97 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: even outside of quarterback is right now, there's just not 98 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: a lot of first round grades out there in this class. 99 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: So again, I think that bodes well for us. 100 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: We tend to lose guys if they feel like they're 101 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: a lock top ten pick or something like that, and 102 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: I just don't think there's going to be a lot 103 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: of those guys that fall in that category this year. 104 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: Well, Naggie, you noticed because you work for John Snyder, 105 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: you've also worked for Belichick and those guys and DJ 106 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 4: and I talked. Even though the first round consists of 107 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: thirty two spots, typically you have eighteen to twenty two 108 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 4: eighteen to twenty four guys de degraded as first round talents. 109 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: Speak a little to that about how rare it should 110 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 4: be that you put a first round grade on a player, 111 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: and how that impacts what you're doing, and how the 112 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl is really a deciding factor for some scouts 113 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 4: on whether guy really is worthy of being a first 114 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: round pick or not. 115 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. 116 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: I feel like most years, in an average year, you're 117 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: somewhere in those teams, like those middle teens sixteen, seventeen, eighteen. 118 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: I think in a good year you're in the low twenties. Look, 119 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: just thinking back on drafts I was a part of, 120 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 1: and again, yeah, first round grades should mean something, right, 121 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about guys that to me, those 122 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: are Pro bowl level players. You know, if you're hitting 123 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: on first round picks, regardless of position, whether it's a center, 124 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: a dB, I mean you're drafting guys in the first round. 125 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: To me, they're playing in Pro Bowls or All Pros, 126 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: or guys that help you in Super Bowls, guys that 127 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: when you get in big stage games are going to 128 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: be difference makers. 129 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: To me, those are difference maker type picks. So yeah, 130 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: it varies. 131 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: And again this year it sounds like that number is 132 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: less than the mid teens. We might only have you know, eight, nine, 133 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: ten of those guys in this year's class. So I 134 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: do think it's a really deep draft. We've talked about 135 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: that before. This is the last year of the extra 136 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: COVID year, So like our Senior Bowl watch list was 137 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: eight hundred and some players this year. Usually it's about 138 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: five hundred. I mean, I hated the fact that we 139 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: had that many guys. 140 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 2: Now there was juniors. 141 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: We added juniors this year, and we had a specialist, 142 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: so that that kind of made the number a little 143 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: more bloated. But I do think when you look at 144 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: the board right now, there were some really good depth 145 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: at certain positions down the line. But again though up 146 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: at the top of the board, it's pretty thin right now. 147 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: Two parter here Nags curious on the schools that are 148 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: going to be heavily populated with this. I know, and 149 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: just talking to Guy a lot of our mutual friends, 150 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: but I was talking to somebody that said Michigan might 151 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: have four first round picks. Ohio State obviously as a 152 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: ton Arizona gets mentioned a lot for their high end talent, 153 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: which I don't know people really see that coming, but 154 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: they've got they've got dudes coming. I was shocked to 155 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: find out there's an offensive lineman from the Dakotas. You know, 156 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 3: we just never see an offensive lineman from the decor. 157 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, is there a law out there, Nags that 158 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: we have to have at least one to three offensive 159 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: line prospects from the Dakotas each and every year. 160 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: Well, they do a good job up there, many a 161 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: believable job. 162 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, just going back over the last 163 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: few years here, we had Cody Mouth from North Kota 164 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: State and Dylan Raiden's from from North Goota State. South 165 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: Dakota States put out a couple of good ones. So yeah, 166 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: and there's another one this year, Gray's Abel at North 167 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: Kota State. It's another one that buys and just crank 168 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: those dudes out. But yeah, to your point, Ohio States loaded. 169 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: I watched their defense the other day for the first time, 170 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: and it's reflective of a lot of first round grades, 171 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: at least a lot of top hundred grades, a lot 172 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: of top hundred grades, especially in the defense. Is absolutely 173 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: loaded at all levels. Yeah, Michigan's got got some guys. 174 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: They've got a guy that's really emerged, Josiah Stewart. If 175 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: I know you guys are super busy. 176 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: I was curious when I watched him against USC. They 177 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: couldn't block him the whole game, But I was curious 178 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: how big he was. I didn't have the numbers. 179 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: He's not a he's not a real big guy. Now 180 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: he's like six oh one two two forties. I was 181 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: up there in an arbor this year. Now he's a 182 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: guy who was funny, like, I love how you guys 183 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: remember this when you when you're out on the road. 184 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: We had Isaiah likely the Ravens tight end in the 185 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl a few years ago. They were in town. 186 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina was in town, took place South Alabama in 187 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: a couple of the Coastal Coastal Carolina coaches like pointed 188 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: out this true freshman who at the time already had 189 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: like ten or eleven sacks as a true freshman. They're like, yeah, 190 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna be coming back here in a couple of 191 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: years for this guy. Well, that's Josiah Stewart. He's at 192 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: Michigan now and he's having a monster year for those guys. 193 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, him, Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant on the d 194 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: line there there there. I know they have their issues 195 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball right now at quarterback, 196 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: but that defense has a bunch of dudes on it. 197 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned quarterback. 198 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: Let's talk about the quarterback class and how jumbled it 199 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: is at the top. What have you seen from this 200 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five class. What do you expect by the 201 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: time we get to the Senior Bowl in terms of 202 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 4: guys that are rabb guys that can help themselves. 203 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's going to be a handful of 204 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: guys that teams are going to think our NFL starters 205 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: like what level is that? 206 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: Right? 207 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: You know, you go from like the win with starter 208 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: to the solid starter to the franchise bide. I think 209 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of those guys in that 210 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: in the starting grade level for most teams, and the 211 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: way it's shaken out, it's it's the guys we thought, 212 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: but some of it's been uneven. Some of the guys 213 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: may just look at Carson beck All, yeah, you just 214 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: look at the at the Alabama game. It is kind 215 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: of a tail of two halves, you know, I jokingly said, 216 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, his scouts. A lot of times we leave 217 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: the game at halftime to beat the traffic and get 218 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: on the road. We got a long drive to get 219 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: some you know, to the next school or whatever. If 220 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: you left at halftime, your impression was very different than 221 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: the scouts that left at the end of the third quarter. 222 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: At the end of the game. So you've seen that 223 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: with a lot of the guys. 224 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: Cam Ward came out gangbusters in the first couple of 225 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: weeks and and now you know, he had an unbelievable 226 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: rally this past week against Cal But but he's thrown 227 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: some picks. He's forced the issue a little bit. But 228 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's gonna be those names. It's gonna be 229 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: the guys you thought coming into the year, Carson Beck, 230 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: cam Woarre, Jalen Milrose had his moments. That Georgia game 231 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: obviously was great, quinn Ewrs. Garrett Nussmeyer is a guy 232 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: that that I don't think a lot of people were 233 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: talking about coming into the year. But if you watch 234 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: Garrett Nusmeyer tape right now, I mean he looks like 235 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: an NFL starter. I think the conversation he's going to 236 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: have to have. And lucky for Garrett is that he's 237 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: he's got a dad who you know, played in the 238 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: league and was coaching, you know, coaching in the league, 239 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: and you know, as a football lifer, they just have 240 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: to decide, you know, do we want to come out 241 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: now with only one season's where the starts, or do 242 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: we want to stay at LSU for another year in Bank, 243 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: another season full of developmental reps, which we all though 244 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: he's not gonna get in the NFL. If some team 245 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: drafts him to be the starter, they're just gonna throw 246 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: him out there. So but he's certainly he's certainly going 247 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: to be in that first round conversation when when you 248 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: guys are all down here and mobile. 249 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: Well, we always have a theme. Every draft has a theme. 250 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: Some you get to choose and some choose themselves. And 251 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: this is going to be the spring of Shidoor Jim. 252 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: It is. 253 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: It's going to be it. It's going to be the 254 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: one that you're going to have. You're gonna have the 255 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: one side who's gonna you know, it's going to be 256 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: you know, this is the legendary player. Then you're gonna 257 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: have the other side that think, oh no, this is 258 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: all just you know, it's all hype. It's a hype machine. 259 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: There's nothing like I've studied him. I like him, and 260 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: he's a good player. He's a very talented thrower, and 261 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: did him over the summer. I'm excited to see this 262 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: year's stuff. But from from your early work there on him, 263 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: what have you seen? 264 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: I will say this a lot to like, like you 265 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: said to me, it's not hype. Yes, is there hype 266 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: around him, yes, but it's not hype in terms of 267 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: like you know, we're not making this up. 268 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is really. 269 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: Talented, especially as a thrower, really natural delivery and release. 270 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: He can throw on the move, which is really fun 271 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: to see. He scrambles to make plays downfield, like is 272 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: he gonna is he like a true dual threat? And 273 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: know he's not, but can he extend plays? Heck, yeah 274 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: he can and and fortunately for him, like he's had 275 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: to do it, you know. So we've we've all we've 276 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: all seen all these quarterbacks over the last few years 277 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: that they're playing behind a great offensive line, they got 278 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: great skill. People like everything's perfect, the Alabama quarterbacks, the 279 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: Ohio State quarterbacks, and then what what happens when you 280 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: throw them out on the field, like you know, I mean, 281 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: let's use Bryce Young and is an example of that. 282 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: You know what's gonna happen. We know what's gonna happen. 283 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: We should do her Sanders if he gets drafted to 284 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: a bad football team, you know, with a bad offensive line. 285 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: We've seen this guy be able to move and we've 286 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: we've seen him be able to create plays outside the pocket. 287 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: He can do that and he can throw accurately. So 288 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: and I think really the biggest thing that gets underrated 289 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: or not talked about enough we should do her is 290 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: the toughness. 291 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: Uh. 292 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: You know, people like to make a lot of a 293 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: lot of this stuff that happens after the game, right like, 294 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, handshakes with other players and all just nonsense, 295 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 1: right like that's such a stupid narrative, which you do 296 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: were In my opinion, this dude is tough now. I 297 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: mean he gets hit a bunch, he gets up, you know, 298 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: he gets up and then he'll stand in the next play. 299 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: It's not one of these guys that gets gun shy. 300 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: So no, there's there's a lot to like guys. He's 301 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: he's a really fun study. 302 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: So beyond shoulder stand is who's someone else at the 303 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: top of the charts that you got your own at quarterback? 304 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: You know I listed the the you know, most of 305 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: the suspects up there. I will say, you know, the 306 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: guys we've talked about. Jalen Milroe is a guy I'd 307 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: like to mention that's that's made a nice jump. Again, 308 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought, just because of where Klen 309 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: de Boor came from last year, they thought the Alabama 310 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: offense would look the same. 311 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: And I cautioned people, now, think about it. 312 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: Michael Pennix was a great deep ball thrower and then 313 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: he had Po Kadoonzi and McMillan. Right like, those are 314 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: three NFL starting receivers on that offense. So I didn't 315 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: think it would look exactly the same. And the cool 316 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: part right now with Alabama, now we're coming off the loss, 317 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: there's not Alabama fans would would argue there's nothing cool 318 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: about Alabama football right now. If you're living down here 319 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: in Alabama, it's not a good week to live down here. 320 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: But uh, but to me, the cool part is that 321 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Calen Devor is still learning Jalen Milroe, He's still you know, 322 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: he's still learning what he does well. So I wouldn't 323 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: want to play Alabama later in the season. I think 324 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: they're still figuring things out. But to me, the biggest 325 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: the biggest jump, and you guys will see it when 326 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: you when you get tuned in on mill Row, it 327 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: is the anticipation part. I just felt like last year 328 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: with Jalen, Yes, he has rare speed, rare running ability. 329 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: I think he's using it more. I think they're doing 330 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: more with design run to take advantage of it. But 331 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: as a passer, I thought Jalen and maybe it was 332 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: because he was a first year starter, was really kind 333 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: of a clear picture thrower, like he really needed to 334 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: see guys break open before he let it rip this 335 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: year and I posted a deep ball he threw against 336 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: Wisconsin on a corner route and he's throwing that thing 337 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: before the receivers out of the break that not have 338 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: happened a year ago. So he's really made some nice 339 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: strides in the anticipation part. 340 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: Of his game. 341 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right 342 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: back after this. 343 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 344 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: If you look at the kind of thirty thousand foot 345 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: view here, Jim, I know you'll get a chance to 346 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: try and put these invites together and and and get 347 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: this get this thing going. But just from the top, 348 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: looking at it as a whole, are there areas maybe 349 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: if it's not even the high end, but just the 350 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: depth of certain positions that have that have jumped out 351 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: to you. 352 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: Certainly running back DJ, there's a lot of guys, you know, 353 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: the hard part right now for US is going to 354 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: be figuring out which juniors are coming out. Ashton gent 355 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: obviously what he's, what he's done at Boise, he's he's 356 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: a fun guy to watch now, you know. I compared 357 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: him over the summer with you know, with our staff. 358 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: He reminded me of and again this is lofty and 359 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: I hate doing this, but but in terms of commps, 360 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: he reminded me of the Danny and Tomlinson in the 361 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: passing game in the PAS game, what he looked like 362 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield and catching the ball and 363 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: after the catch. And again I hate doing that to 364 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: a young guy, comparing him to the Hall of Fame player. 365 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: I hesitate to do that, but but the passing game 366 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: stuff is real. Now, he's he's he's a really fun 367 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: guy to watch. But with the depth of the class, 368 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: there's guys all throughout, So figuring out for us which 369 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: juniors are coming out, you know, I don't want to 370 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: miss out on any seniors if and hang our hopes 371 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: on some junior, So I gotta I gotta. 372 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: Work through that and figure that part of it out. 373 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: There's some there's some nice depth in the tight end 374 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: and that in that third fourth round area, and then 375 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna get some some good players in that range. 376 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: And then on the defensive side of the ball. Frankly, 377 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: the cornerback class. The more I get into it, the 378 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: more I like the cornerback class. And and last year 379 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: was really nickel heavy with guys like Saint Erstrill and 380 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: Drew Phillips. 381 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: A couple of guys that are playing really good football 382 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: right now is rookies. 383 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a really nice mix of outside, bigger, longer, 384 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: faster guys and then those guys that can also play inside. 385 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: So I would say, corner man, if you, if you're 386 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: if you're a fan. 387 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: Of an NFL team right now watching this podcast and 388 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: your your team is struggling to cover people, this is 389 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: a good year in needing corners. 390 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: Jim, I'm gonna pretend that we are just some old 391 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: road buddies just kind of catching up. I put a 392 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 4: monk called into you, and we're gonna pretend that the 393 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: audience is not listening. But I'm gonna ask you what 394 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: I would ask you as a scout, and give me 395 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 4: some of your favorite guys that no one knows, like, 396 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: just just like we all developed these pet cast, these 397 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: guys that we kind of love looking at. Who are 398 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: you some of your favorite guys in the class without 399 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 4: slighting anybody else by saying some of these guys are 400 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 4: like your favorite to watch on tape. 401 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. 402 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: I will say, Well, I brought up one of Josiah 403 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: Stewart at Michigan is a really fun player because he's 404 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: violent guys. I mean, he plays the position how you 405 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: wanted to be played. I mean he is a violent 406 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: point of attack, run defender. He is a multiple pass rusher, 407 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback in a lot of different ways. 408 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we had both Michigan edge rushers Jalen 409 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: Herrel and and uh and Braden McGregor and the Senior 410 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: Bowl last year and he wasn't even a starter and 411 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: Derek Moore than other side, And when I was there 412 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: in there in August, they're like, these two guys that 413 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: were playing behind our starters last year are really good players. 414 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: So they were talking about and then a couple of 415 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: guys that have really emerged. One guy, Elijah Arroyo, wasn't 416 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: even on our watch list, a Miami player, a four 417 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: star kid coming out, you know, he was really highly 418 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: thought of coming out of high school and then just 419 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: got the injury bug hit. I mean, he hadn't played 420 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: a lot of football, and he has really become a 421 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: go to guy for cam Ward, a big play guy. 422 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: He's averaging like twenty four yards of catch right now 423 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: for at the tight end position, which is unheard of really, 424 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: and he's making catch and run plays, and he's making 425 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: plays down the field, you know, making place down the seam. 426 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: So Arroyo is a really fun watch, really good athlete. 427 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: And then Darius Alexander is the guy that we made 428 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: is one of our stock up players. We do the 429 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: stock up thing every week. Darius Alexander at Toledo is 430 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: a really fun player too because he's he's long. I 431 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: was at Toledo when I saw you guys at the draft. 432 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 2: I was. 433 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: I went up there and spoke to the team at 434 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: Toledo and he walks into the room. Now, he looks 435 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: like a first round draft pick. He's long, he's got 436 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: heavy hands, he's really good at the point, you know, 437 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got pass rush. 438 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you're not hearing a lot about this guy now. 439 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: But in terms of like group of five guys, we 440 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: saw his teammate last year, Quinyan Mitchell make a really 441 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: big jump throughout the process. Darius Alexander should be playing 442 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: in Athens, Georgia or Tusco with Alabama those one of 443 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: those schools. I mean, credit to Jason Kandell and what 444 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: they've done at Toledo to build that thing up and 445 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: have guys like Quinyan and Mitchell and Darius Alexander stay 446 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: in Toledo. 447 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: He's a big time talent. Guys. 448 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: You'll be hearing a lot about him and you'll be 449 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: talking a lot about him as we lead up to April. 450 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: One of the things I love when we visit and 451 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 3: we do this. Both were on there and we're just 452 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 3: talking on the phone. But we're not only scouting players, 453 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: just scouting coaches, and it's always fun to see kind 454 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: of who the up and comers are. And sometimes people 455 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: assume that means the guys. You know, a thirty year 456 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: old coach sometimes to be a guy that's just getting 457 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: more opportunities. What Signette's doing at Indiana's pretty ridiculous. I mean, 458 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: that has not been done there. They're sitting at six 459 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 3: and oh, you have any have you met him, had 460 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: any conversation? I did not know the guy at all. 461 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: But I have so much respect for the job that 462 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: he's done everywhere he's been. That's all he does is win, 463 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: no question. 464 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: No question. No I don't either. 465 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: I don't either, Coach Coach Signetti, our guy rtt Lewis 466 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: has to be happy, right, I mean he does. 467 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: He's I didn't even know he owned Indiana gear. He's 468 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: got a different sweat on every day over to the bookstore. 469 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: I think he just called the bookstore and said, send 470 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: me one of everything. 471 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Coach Signetti, he's done an unbelievable job. 472 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: Guys, I mean six and ohen Bloomington, they're already Bowl eligible. 473 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: That's that's hard to do now, and look at look 474 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: at who's playing quarterback. Curtis Rourke is a name that 475 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: I've brought up in the office a little bit. You 476 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: look at some of the teams that went out in 477 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: the portal this offseason. I'm not gonna name schools. I 478 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: don't think that's cool to do to certain players, at 479 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: least not in my role. I'm not about that. But 480 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: Curtis Rourke could have been at some some more high 481 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: profile programs. This guy's playing really good football for him too, 482 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: So it's cool. He brought a bunch of those GMU 483 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: players with him and they're they're getting it done in 484 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: the Big ten. 485 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's done a great job. 486 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: You guys know, I mean when you work for teams, 487 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: that was always kind of the mandate, right like go 488 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: on the road. Yeah. Some coaches, man, yeah, I know, 489 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: some coaches man, like see what what young dB coaches 490 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 1: out there, what young whiteouts coaches out there that can 491 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: help us someday and make a list? 492 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: You know, the good GM's always asked their area scouts 493 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: to go out and make a list of coaches. So 494 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: so yeah, he is. 495 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: What what coach Signetti's doing with the Ooziers is ridiculous. 496 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: Can I follow that up real quick because I'm just 497 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: looking through the list here of the top twenty five 498 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 3: and some of the jobs that people are doing. Obviously, 499 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: you know, we talked a little bit about gent but 500 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: Boise and what they've got there, he's done a really 501 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: really good job obviously Illinois. He's got experience, that's notently 502 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: he came from nowhere SMU, same thing. But it's just 503 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 3: fun to kind of see some of those programs, maybe 504 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 3: the non traditional programs, you know, having some success. That's 505 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: always a good sign that their their coach really well. 506 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you bring up Smu re at lastly. He has 507 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: done a great job, guys, in short time. And he 508 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: was a you know, he was a lifer position coach coordinator. 509 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: He's getting his first crack at it. 510 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: He feels like he's been around forever, it does. 511 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: You know, because we've heard his name. He's been a 512 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: big programs. He's been at the Auburns and in Miami's 513 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: and places like that. But now he's getting his chance 514 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: to put his stamp on a program. And you talk 515 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: about an under the radar guy, Brishard Smith. You know, 516 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: I was talking to Alonso high Smith. You know, we 517 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: all buddies Withzoh. He's with the with the Patriots now 518 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: and but he was with Miami the last couple of years. 519 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: And Brashart Smith is a guy that played wide receiver 520 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: at Miami. Rhett Lashley goes in the portal, gets him, 521 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: brings him in. Smu makes him a running back and guys, 522 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: he's a draftable running back. I mean he's out of 523 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: the backfield, change of pace, third down, he's a he's 524 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: a really cool player. I want to say I saw 525 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: something this week that he's the highest graded player by 526 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: PFF at any position right now in the country. So 527 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: he's a he's he's a fun guy. John Summerle at Tulane. 528 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: I know you're looking at the top twenty five. I 529 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: don't think right now, but but man, they just put 530 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: up a seventy spot against UAB this past weekend, and 531 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: what he did at Troy the past two years like 532 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: he's another younger guy, up and coming guy that he's 533 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: gonna get his crack at at a big time SEC 534 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: job soon. 535 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 4: Last one, Jim for me, in terms of talking about personnel, 536 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 4: Army and Navy are combining ten and O and I 537 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 4: know every now and then you guys will have someone 538 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 4: from the military represented down there at the game. One. 539 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: What does your mind go to when you hear that 540 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: Army and Navy are both sitting at five and zero 541 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 4: in the day and time of the current college landscape. 542 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: Those teams are built the right way. 543 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: They're not nobody's jumping in the portal at Army or 544 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: Navy to get to get ANIL money. 545 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: So no, you know those guys, those guys. 546 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: That are playing those kids, I mean, smart, tough, dependable, 547 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: dudes really well coached. Navy's actually thrown it around a 548 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: little bit this year, which is crazy. You look at 549 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: a box scorer and Navy's thrown for two hundred a game. 550 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: But no, those are I mean, I've never been to 551 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: the Army Navy game. I don't know if you guys 552 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: have fellows, but that is one bucketless game I still 553 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: have not been to. And I'm thinking about taking my 554 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: son up there and going to that game this year 555 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: because it should be a. 556 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: It should be an awesome one. Yeah, it's cool, and 557 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: Navy's got a safety. 558 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: Navy's got a Navy's got a safety that the Northeast 559 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: scouts are buzzing about right now, so we're gonna take a. 560 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: Look at him. 561 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: I've been to a Navy two lane game. I've been 562 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: to an Air Force San Diego State game. Not quite 563 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: the same, not quite the same as every Navy. But nonetheless, heynags, 564 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 3: you are the best, buddy. We appreciate you giving us 565 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 3: some time today. Best of luck. I know you'll be 566 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: grinding with your group there as you try and formulate 567 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 3: this list and get these invitations sent out. But always 568 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: looking forward to visiting with you, and also be honest 569 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 3: with You're looking forward to seeing some videos of these 570 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: kids getting the news that they've been invited to the 571 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: Senior Bowl. It's one of my favorite things on social 572 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: media that you guys do. 573 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: It's awesome. No man, I appreciate that good. Good being 574 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: back on. 575 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: Hopefully we can do it again once we start getting 576 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: this thing built. But thanks for having me on. Guy's 577 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: good to see you guys. 578 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: Thanks buddy. There you goes Jim Naggy, great friend and 579 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: does a great job at the premiere All Star game 580 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: the Resa's Senior Bowl. That's going to do it for us. 581 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys hanging on us. We'll see you next time. 582 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: Right here on movies. 583 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: Thing talk before toottmunity talk, before to loot 584 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: The community.