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Speaker 2: And welcome back George Murray. With you Suzanne Eastman with
Speaker 2: us spiritual teacher who has been recognized on the Watkins
Speaker 2: List of the one hundred most spiritually influential living people
Speaker 2: and awarded the prestigious twenty twenty four Humanities Team Spiritual
Speaker 2: Leadership Award. Congratulations. She's a former Navy commander with a
Speaker 2: master's degree in National Security Affairs, serves as a commanding
Speaker 2: officer and aid to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs
Speaker 2: of Staff, and she now guides people to enjoy a
Speaker 2: consciously connected and divinely guided life. And she was our
Speaker 2: guest on Beyond Belief a few weeks ago in Denver,
Speaker 2: and those shows should show up in a few months.
Speaker 2: Suzanna did a great job for us.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, George. I think there was a good
Speaker 3: synergy with us, with you and your Navy.
Speaker 2: Background, it was fun.
Speaker 4: Have you been excellent? Excellent.
Speaker 3: We're traveling across the country right now.
Speaker 4: Let's on the road again.
Speaker 2: How did you go for being a Navy commander to
Speaker 2: a spiritual teacher.
Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately, it was a family tragedy, and that's what
Speaker 3: often happens for people. They have a wake up call,
Speaker 3: And in my case, it was the very unexpected death
Speaker 3: of my stepdaughter, Susan.
Speaker 4: She was a sergeant in.
Speaker 3: The Marine Corps, crossing the flight line at work and
Speaker 3: was struck and killed by lightning. And I just took
Speaker 3: one look at her body at her funeral, George, and
Speaker 3: I just knew there had to be something more than
Speaker 3: this physical life. And that started me on a journey
Speaker 3: of exploration of the afterlife, and I discovered much more
Speaker 3: than I expected to find.
Speaker 2: Did you ever change your mind or feelings about the
Speaker 2: afterlife along the way?
Speaker 3: Oh, it didn't change my mind.
Speaker 4: It rocked my whole worldview.
Speaker 3: I had no idea there was an afterlife. I had
Speaker 3: a basic curiosity but hadn't really dived into it. But
Speaker 3: after Susan died, I began meditating every day trying to
Speaker 3: connect with her, and I discovered that there really is
Speaker 3: an afterlife and it's very much alive.
Speaker 2: Your latest book is called Mediumship Sacred Communications with Loved
Speaker 2: Ones from Beyond the Veil. That says it all, doesn't it?
Speaker 4: It does.
Speaker 3: It is sacred to me because when you discover that
Speaker 3: someone you love and has died is not really gone.
Speaker 3: That it's like you said, it.
Speaker 4: Changes everything, and that word's sacred to me.
Speaker 3: It means tinged with awe and I'm just awed when
Speaker 3: I can connect with people's loved ones who have passed
Speaker 3: and show them what I've come to know, that death
Speaker 3: is really not the end.
Speaker 2: What do you say to people who are on the fence?
Speaker 4: Ah?
Speaker 3: I laugh at that because I had a guy who
Speaker 3: came to me for a reading. He came with his wife.
Speaker 3: His wife wanted the reading and they wanted two separate readings,
Speaker 3: so he came in first and I said, how do
Speaker 3: you feel about mediumship? And he said, well, I'm really
Speaker 3: on the fence about that, and I said, well, let's
Speaker 3: just see what happens. So I remember bringing through his
Speaker 3: father and his friend with evidence. And that's the thing, George,
Speaker 3: when you bring through things that you can't possibly know,
Speaker 3: it changes people's wives, like mine has been changed through
Speaker 3: this work.
Speaker 4: And at the end of the.
Speaker 3: Reading, he's sitting there with wide eyes and I said, well,
Speaker 3: how do you think about mediumship now? And he said, well,
Speaker 3: I'm not on the fence anymore because.
Speaker 4: The evidence is just life changing.
Speaker 2: Your publisher has sacred stories. Tell me about them.
Speaker 3: Well, I really love the publisher. The main publisher, her
Speaker 3: name is Ariel and in fact George. She was a
Speaker 3: sergeant in Marines, just like my Yeah, so we have
Speaker 3: this nice connection there. But she really comes from the
Speaker 3: heart in her work.
Speaker 4: She's published a series of books.
Speaker 3: Called Common Sentience, and every book starts has just a
Speaker 3: one word title like my Mediumship, but everyone has to
Speaker 3: do with.
Speaker 4: A sacred topic such as Akasha and God talk.
Speaker 3: And then we have like my book Mediumship, and they
Speaker 3: all have the same format. Three parts to each book.
Speaker 3: The first is the who, how, what, Where, when why?
Speaker 3: The third part is special tools that you can do
Speaker 3: techniques to.
Speaker 4: Practice what the book is about.
Speaker 3: And the middle on each of the book consists of
Speaker 3: stories examples of what the book is about, with two
Speaker 3: stories by the main author, and then in my case
Speaker 3: in the book of Mediumship twenty eight thirty contributor stories
Speaker 3: of what I call no their explanation moments noes that
Speaker 3: show that mediumship is real.
Speaker 4: So it's just a really good read with a lot.
Speaker 3: Of practical information and then a lot of stories that
Speaker 3: you can just pick it up and put it down
Speaker 3: anytime you need a.
Speaker 2: Lift, Susander. Religions encourage people to try to deal with
Speaker 2: the other side.
Speaker 4: That would depend on the religion.
Speaker 3: It's interesting that I was raised with no religion, so
Speaker 3: I didn't have any belief system that I had to
Speaker 3: clear out or move past. I haven't really studied the
Speaker 3: religions much, George, because for me, it's not so much
Speaker 3: about what others tell me, and that's what religion is
Speaker 3: as the spiritual path, which is finding out for yourself
Speaker 3: what is real and what is meaningful and what is sacred.
Speaker 2: Do you find that most people want to connect with
Speaker 2: their loved ones who have passed on or not, well,
Speaker 2: it's do Orge.
Speaker 3: I find that those who come to a medium definitely
Speaker 3: want to find out. But then there are those who
Speaker 3: are or whose religion might have told them that it's
Speaker 3: wrong to connect, and so it's going to be very
Speaker 3: personal for each person. But I have found that when
Speaker 3: you have someone very close to you, who you love
Speaker 3: very much, who passes, sometimes it doesn't matter what.
Speaker 4: Your belief system is.
Speaker 3: You just want to connect with them, and that will
Speaker 3: lead anybody, no matter what their background, to a medium.
Speaker 2: You're subtitl in your book says, beyond the veil, what
Speaker 2: is the veil?
Speaker 3: The veil is a filter that blocks us from awareness
Speaker 3: of a reality that's right here. So really, if you
Speaker 3: look at it scientifically, the veil is the brain, because
Speaker 3: when we no longer have a brain, when we pass
Speaker 3: through that veil at the time of death, we realize
Speaker 3: that there is no after life. There's only what I
Speaker 3: call the ever life. Life is existence and experience and
Speaker 3: it's ongoing.
Speaker 4: But we're not aware of.
Speaker 3: The after life when we only focus on our physical
Speaker 3: senses and the brain, that veil between this life and
Speaker 3: an expanded awareness of life. The brain just gets in
Speaker 3: the way of that.
Speaker 4: That's the veil.
Speaker 2: Is the spirit and the soul one and the same.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: It's different for different people, depending on what they believe
Speaker 3: about those two terms. My understanding of the two is
Speaker 3: that spirit is synonymous with consciousness, and.
Speaker 4: That is all that is.
Speaker 3: Everything is consciousness expressing itself through various experiences. But the
Speaker 3: soul is one aspect of spirit that makes sense.
Speaker 2: It does. So when you summon up the spirit, are
Speaker 2: you also summoning up the soul?
Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: What happens if you can't connect. What are we doing wrong?
Speaker 3: Oh, well, tell you that'sn't an interesting question. We're not
Speaker 3: necessarily doing something wrong. There could be another reason that
Speaker 3: we're not aware of. We don't always have the bigger picture.
Speaker 4: So to say we're.
Speaker 3: Doing something wrong, it's to place blame. There are different techniques.
Speaker 3: We can use different methods to pierce that veil to
Speaker 3: get through the brain's filter.
Speaker 4: But George, it took.
Speaker 3: Me three years of daily meditation to connect with my
Speaker 3: stepdaughter Susan.
Speaker 4: That's why I started connecting.
Speaker 3: That's why I started meditating daily, and I started connecting
Speaker 3: with other people's loved ones before I connected with my stepdaughter. Now,
Speaker 3: was I doing something wrong?
Speaker 4: Not at all.
Speaker 3: She explained to me later that she helped back. She
Speaker 3: didn't come through to me for three years because she
Speaker 3: wanted me to hone my ability to connect to that
Speaker 3: different frequency of.
Speaker 4: What we call the after life.
Speaker 3: If she had come to me right away, I would
Speaker 3: have just said, Okay.
Speaker 4: Mission accomplished, I'm done. It's great. You just talked to Susan.
Speaker 3: But I kept working at it every day, trying to
Speaker 3: determine what is it that makes this connection so clear,
Speaker 3: working on myself to clear out doubts and my lack
Speaker 3: of trust, and all of that has helped make my
Speaker 3: connection with others and with higher beings more clear. So
Speaker 3: was I doing something wrong?
Speaker 4: Not at all. It was part of a bigger plan.
Speaker 2: You had a number of contributors who added to your
Speaker 2: book co Mediumship. Tell me about them. How did you
Speaker 2: find them?
Speaker 3: Well, the publisher's Sacred Stories put out a call and
Speaker 3: I also.
Speaker 4: Is working with them.
Speaker 3: Send out an email to all the people that follow
Speaker 3: my work, and I know they had boy at least
Speaker 3: two hundred contributors. Because George, when you start talking to
Speaker 3: people about have you had communications from across the veil?
Speaker 3: Have you had no other explanation stories of connecting with
Speaker 3: the afterlife? It is stunning how many people have a
Speaker 3: story to tell.
Speaker 4: So we put out that call and they had to sort.
Speaker 3: Through all these stories and choose the very best ones,
Speaker 3: the ones that when I read them, I would turn
Speaker 3: to my husband time and say, God, Honey, you have
Speaker 3: to hear this one because they were just fascinating. And
Speaker 3: those are the stories that made the cut, But there
Speaker 3: are so many more that were just as interesting.
Speaker 4: Because once we.
Speaker 3: Start talking about these things, the stories are limitless.
Speaker 2: They truly are. Give us one of the examples without
Speaker 2: giving away all of the book. One of the stories.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, how about the woman that was missing her
Speaker 3: son very much. He had passed, he had crossed the veil,
Speaker 3: and his name is Kevin.
Speaker 4: And she went for a.
Speaker 3: Walk on a trail and saying, Kevin, I wish you
Speaker 3: could just show yourself to me in some way, just
Speaker 3: to let me know that you're around. And she's walking
Speaker 3: on the trail and it's a trail where there aren't
Speaker 3: normally many people, and a long come I believe it
Speaker 3: was a man with his dog, and they stopped and
Speaker 3: they got to talking on the trail, and she said,
Speaker 3: what's your dog's name?
Speaker 4: And he said it's Kevin.
Speaker 3: I don't know, George, have you ever met anybody with
Speaker 3: a dog named Kevin.
Speaker 2: I've never known a dog named Kevin.
Speaker 4: I haven't either.
Speaker 3: And that people might say is just the synchronicity. And
Speaker 3: you do this work long enough and you've learned that
Speaker 3: there are no coincidences when you ask for signs like that.
Speaker 3: Signs like that are called app death communications. That's a
Speaker 3: different form of mediumship. When I do mediumship, I connect
Speaker 3: mentally mind to mind with the spirits. But after death,
Speaker 3: communications include signs that you just can't deny, show that
Speaker 3: our loved ones are guiding us to certain situations. What
Speaker 3: made her stop and talk to that man on the trail,
Speaker 3: what made her come to ask, what's.
Speaker 4: Your dog's name?
Speaker 3: That's a form of connecting mind to nine with your
Speaker 3: loved one, And you may not even realize it until
Speaker 3: you have this kind of surprising, stunning moment that touches
Speaker 3: you in your heart and lets you know, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: there's something else going on.
Speaker 2: Here that when Sacred Stories put on its request for contributions,
Speaker 2: you got more than the twelve people who are in
Speaker 2: the book.
Speaker 4: Seahreds, hundreds of them. They were flooded.
Speaker 3: I don't think that the Ariel, the publisher, realized what
Speaker 3: she was getting into when.
Speaker 4: She asked for that.
Speaker 2: How is the the easiest what is the best way
Speaker 2: to connect with spirit?
Speaker 3: As you ask that, I just automatically took a deep
Speaker 3: breath because right.
Speaker 4: Now I'm talking much faster than I normally do.
Speaker 3: I'm a little excited to share with everybody. But to
Speaker 3: connect with spirit you shift channels. Basically, I'm using the
Speaker 3: human mode channel to talk to you.
Speaker 4: But if I were to talk to.
Speaker 3: A spirit, I simply set an intention to connect with
Speaker 3: that different frequency beyond the physical senses. I slowed down
Speaker 3: my brain a little bit with a deep breath, and
Speaker 3: then I notice what stands out from my normal thoughts.
Speaker 2: How do we know it's not the brain trickiness?
Speaker 4: But we don't know.
Speaker 3: So that's why we look for what stands out. We
Speaker 3: look for things that we don't possibly can't possibly know.
Speaker 3: But most of all, George, we look for what is
Speaker 3: helpful and healing. So anything that might be tricking us
Speaker 3: might come from the ego, might come from another aspect
Speaker 3: of consciousness.
Speaker 4: That's not what we're asking for.
Speaker 3: So as long as it's helpful in healing, that's what matters.
Speaker 2: Most is some people Susanne, who have lost loved ones
Speaker 2: not have any desire to get a hold of them
Speaker 2: for whatever reason.
Speaker 4: They do.
Speaker 3: Absolutely I found that that very rarely do I get
Speaker 3: what I call drop ins when I'm aware of a
Speaker 3: spirit with when I'm interacting with somebody, not doing a reading.
Speaker 3: For example, one day, my husband and I were checking
Speaker 3: into a campground.
Speaker 4: We travel a lot.
Speaker 3: By r V, and I was checking in with the
Speaker 3: camp host, and suddenly I became aware of the presence
Speaker 3: of a woman. And I looked at a photo frame
Speaker 3: that was on his desk, and I knew it was
Speaker 3: his wife. And I I don't usually do the There's
Speaker 3: a TV show called The Long Island Medium, and she
Speaker 3: tunes in all the time to people, just when she's
Speaker 3: grocery shopping or in her normal life. I've never actually
Speaker 3: seen the whole show, but I know that that's the
Speaker 3: way she works. But all of a sudden, here's this
Speaker 3: man's wife.
Speaker 4: And I said to him, I see that picture on
Speaker 4: your desk.
Speaker 3: I know that's your wife and that she passed and
Speaker 3: I can sense her now, and oh my gosh, Steard
Speaker 3: he bristled, He looked afraid, and he said, I don't
Speaker 3: want to hear any of that. And I said, okay,
Speaker 3: I did not intend to barge in on your privacy.
Speaker 4: And I left the office, and I.
Speaker 3: Felt like I had done something wrong. But I looked
Speaker 3: to spirit to that woman. I said, well, we tried so,
Speaker 3: because she was right there.
Speaker 4: She just wanted to.
Speaker 3: Tell him that she's okay and that she loved him.
Speaker 3: So all I could do was deliver, try to deliver
Speaker 3: the message, but he didn't want to hear it. That's okay,
Speaker 3: that was his path and he was on well.
Speaker 2: With Susan geze Man, we are talking about one of
Speaker 2: her books, Mediumship, but she's got several others, including The
Speaker 2: Awakened Wind, The Awakened Way, and The Messages of Hope.
Speaker 2: How many books do you have, Suzanne, Well.
Speaker 4: It's interesting, George.
Speaker 3: Mediumship just came out today and it's my fifteenth book.
Speaker 3: But not all of them are about spiritual topics, but
Speaker 3: those certainly are my favorites.
Speaker 2: Well, it was ironic. I was getting on the plane
Speaker 2: ready to go to Denver to do our Beyondbelief TV
Speaker 2: show with you and your book arrived at my place. Huh,
Speaker 2: and I went, oh, this is great. She's going to
Speaker 2: be a guest on Coast to coast, but she's a
Speaker 2: guest on Beyondbelief. Synchronicity. It's the best, isn't it.
Speaker 4: It's beyond Belief.
Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about the brain confusing us.
Speaker 2: Does that happen a lot?
Speaker 3: Confusing us or blocking us from being aware of what's
Speaker 3: going on happens almost all the time.
Speaker 4: We're walking in two worlds at once.
Speaker 3: The physical world in a non physical world, and we
Speaker 3: don't even realize it. We say the sun rises and sets,
Speaker 3: but it doesn't, does it.
Speaker 4: That's an illusion.
Speaker 3: So when you start questioning reality, that's what I ask
Speaker 3: people to do in my book The Awakened Way. It
Speaker 3: reveals an entirely different reality that's right here, but until
Speaker 3: we shift our focus, we're not aware of it. But
Speaker 3: the thing is, when we shift our focus, especially in
Speaker 3: an expanded state of consciousness, and find out that we
Speaker 3: are accompanied by non physical helpers all the time, that
Speaker 3: changes everything.
Speaker 4: I mean, George, I went through.
Speaker 3: My military career without being aware that I have help,
Speaker 3: we all have help, and that life will flow so
Speaker 3: much more easily. We don't have to do it all alone.
Speaker 3: We're not only humans. That changes everything, and that's my
Speaker 3: new mission to help people live what I call the
Speaker 3: Awakened Way. Mediumship brought me to that awareness. So that
Speaker 3: was just the start of a much greater journey that
Speaker 3: all of us are really on as souls.
Speaker 2: It's exciting the path that you're on, Suzanne, any regrets, The.
Speaker 3: Only regret is that I didn't know about it earlier.
Speaker 3: And yet I see the perfection and how it unfolds now,
Speaker 3: so you know, you think that you understand something and
Speaker 3: then another door opens.
Speaker 4: So I get.
Speaker 3: Excited when I wake up every day like, well I
Speaker 3: know now, I don't know it at all, So what's
Speaker 3: coming next? And so just always pushing the boundaries a
Speaker 3: little bit more, stretching ourselves beyond our comfort zone. That's
Speaker 3: what leads to growth, and that's what leads to more
Speaker 3: and more literally.
Speaker 4: Joy in our lives.
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