1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: And welcome back George Murray. With you Suzanne Eastman with 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: us spiritual teacher who has been recognized on the Watkins 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: List of the one hundred most spiritually influential living people 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: and awarded the prestigious twenty twenty four Humanities Team Spiritual 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Leadership Award. Congratulations. She's a former Navy commander with a 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: master's degree in National Security Affairs, serves as a commanding 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: officer and aid to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: of Staff, and she now guides people to enjoy a 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: consciously connected and divinely guided life. And she was our 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: guest on Beyond Belief a few weeks ago in Denver, 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: and those shows should show up in a few months. 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: Suzanna did a great job for us. 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, George. I think there was a good 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 3: synergy with us, with you and your Navy. 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: Background, it was fun. 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 4: Have you been excellent? Excellent. 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: We're traveling across the country right now. 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 4: Let's on the road again. 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: How did you go for being a Navy commander to 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: a spiritual teacher. 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately, it was a family tragedy, and that's what 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: often happens for people. They have a wake up call, 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 3: And in my case, it was the very unexpected death 25 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: of my stepdaughter, Susan. 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 4: She was a sergeant in. 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: The Marine Corps, crossing the flight line at work and 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: was struck and killed by lightning. And I just took 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: one look at her body at her funeral, George, and 30 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: I just knew there had to be something more than 31 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: this physical life. And that started me on a journey 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: of exploration of the afterlife, and I discovered much more 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: than I expected to find. 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: Did you ever change your mind or feelings about the 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: afterlife along the way? 36 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: Oh, it didn't change my mind. 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 4: It rocked my whole worldview. 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: I had no idea there was an afterlife. I had 39 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: a basic curiosity but hadn't really dived into it. But 40 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: after Susan died, I began meditating every day trying to 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: connect with her, and I discovered that there really is 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 3: an afterlife and it's very much alive. 43 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: Your latest book is called Mediumship Sacred Communications with Loved 44 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: Ones from Beyond the Veil. That says it all, doesn't it? 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 4: It does. 46 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: It is sacred to me because when you discover that 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: someone you love and has died is not really gone. 48 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: That it's like you said, it. 49 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 4: Changes everything, and that word's sacred to me. 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: It means tinged with awe and I'm just awed when 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: I can connect with people's loved ones who have passed 52 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: and show them what I've come to know, that death 53 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: is really not the end. 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: What do you say to people who are on the fence? 55 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: Ah? 56 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: I laugh at that because I had a guy who 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: came to me for a reading. He came with his wife. 58 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: His wife wanted the reading and they wanted two separate readings, 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: so he came in first and I said, how do 60 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: you feel about mediumship? And he said, well, I'm really 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: on the fence about that, and I said, well, let's 62 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: just see what happens. So I remember bringing through his 63 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: father and his friend with evidence. And that's the thing, George, 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: when you bring through things that you can't possibly know, 65 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: it changes people's wives, like mine has been changed through 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: this work. 67 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 4: And at the end of the. 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: Reading, he's sitting there with wide eyes and I said, well, 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: how do you think about mediumship now? And he said, well, 70 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: I'm not on the fence anymore because. 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: The evidence is just life changing. 72 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: Your publisher has sacred stories. Tell me about them. 73 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: Well, I really love the publisher. The main publisher, her 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: name is Ariel and in fact George. She was a 75 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: sergeant in Marines, just like my Yeah, so we have 76 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: this nice connection there. But she really comes from the 77 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: heart in her work. 78 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 4: She's published a series of books. 79 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: Called Common Sentience, and every book starts has just a 80 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: one word title like my Mediumship, but everyone has to 81 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: do with. 82 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 4: A sacred topic such as Akasha and God talk. 83 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: And then we have like my book Mediumship, and they 84 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,559 Speaker 3: all have the same format. Three parts to each book. 85 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: The first is the who, how, what, Where, when why? 86 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: The third part is special tools that you can do 87 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 3: techniques to. 88 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: Practice what the book is about. 89 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: And the middle on each of the book consists of 90 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: stories examples of what the book is about, with two 91 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: stories by the main author, and then in my case 92 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: in the book of Mediumship twenty eight thirty contributor stories 93 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 3: of what I call no their explanation moments noes that 94 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: show that mediumship is real. 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 4: So it's just a really good read with a lot. 96 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: Of practical information and then a lot of stories that 97 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: you can just pick it up and put it down 98 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: anytime you need a. 99 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: Lift, Susander. Religions encourage people to try to deal with 100 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: the other side. 101 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 4: That would depend on the religion. 102 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: It's interesting that I was raised with no religion, so 103 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: I didn't have any belief system that I had to 104 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: clear out or move past. I haven't really studied the 105 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: religions much, George, because for me, it's not so much 106 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: about what others tell me, and that's what religion is 107 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: as the spiritual path, which is finding out for yourself 108 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: what is real and what is meaningful and what is sacred. 109 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: Do you find that most people want to connect with 110 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: their loved ones who have passed on or not, well, 111 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: it's do Orge. 112 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: I find that those who come to a medium definitely 113 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: want to find out. But then there are those who 114 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: are or whose religion might have told them that it's 115 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: wrong to connect, and so it's going to be very 116 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: personal for each person. But I have found that when 117 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: you have someone very close to you, who you love 118 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: very much, who passes, sometimes it doesn't matter what. 119 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 4: Your belief system is. 120 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: You just want to connect with them, and that will 121 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: lead anybody, no matter what their background, to a medium. 122 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: You're subtitl in your book says, beyond the veil, what 123 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: is the veil? 124 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: The veil is a filter that blocks us from awareness 125 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: of a reality that's right here. So really, if you 126 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: look at it scientifically, the veil is the brain, because 127 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: when we no longer have a brain, when we pass 128 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: through that veil at the time of death, we realize 129 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: that there is no after life. There's only what I 130 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: call the ever life. Life is existence and experience and 131 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: it's ongoing. 132 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: But we're not aware of. 133 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: The after life when we only focus on our physical 134 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: senses and the brain, that veil between this life and 135 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: an expanded awareness of life. The brain just gets in 136 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: the way of that. 137 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 4: That's the veil. 138 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: Is the spirit and the soul one and the same. 139 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: Wow, that's a good one. 140 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: It's different for different people, depending on what they believe 141 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: about those two terms. My understanding of the two is 142 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: that spirit is synonymous with consciousness, and. 143 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 4: That is all that is. 144 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: Everything is consciousness expressing itself through various experiences. But the 145 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: soul is one aspect of spirit that makes sense. 146 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: It does. So when you summon up the spirit, are 147 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: you also summoning up the soul? 148 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, absolutely. 149 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: What happens if you can't connect. What are we doing wrong? 150 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: Oh, well, tell you that'sn't an interesting question. We're not 151 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: necessarily doing something wrong. There could be another reason that 152 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: we're not aware of. We don't always have the bigger picture. 153 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: So to say we're. 154 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: Doing something wrong, it's to place blame. There are different techniques. 155 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: We can use different methods to pierce that veil to 156 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: get through the brain's filter. 157 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 4: But George, it took. 158 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: Me three years of daily meditation to connect with my 159 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: stepdaughter Susan. 160 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: That's why I started connecting. 161 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: That's why I started meditating daily, and I started connecting 162 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: with other people's loved ones before I connected with my stepdaughter. Now, 163 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: was I doing something wrong? 164 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 4: Not at all. 165 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: She explained to me later that she helped back. She 166 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: didn't come through to me for three years because she 167 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: wanted me to hone my ability to connect to that 168 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: different frequency of. 169 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: What we call the after life. 170 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 3: If she had come to me right away, I would 171 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: have just said, Okay. 172 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: Mission accomplished, I'm done. It's great. You just talked to Susan. 173 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 3: But I kept working at it every day, trying to 174 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: determine what is it that makes this connection so clear, 175 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 3: working on myself to clear out doubts and my lack 176 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: of trust, and all of that has helped make my 177 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: connection with others and with higher beings more clear. So 178 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: was I doing something wrong? 179 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 4: Not at all. It was part of a bigger plan. 180 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: You had a number of contributors who added to your 181 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: book co Mediumship. Tell me about them. How did you 182 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: find them? 183 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: Well, the publisher's Sacred Stories put out a call and 184 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: I also. 185 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: Is working with them. 186 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: Send out an email to all the people that follow 187 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: my work, and I know they had boy at least 188 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: two hundred contributors. Because George, when you start talking to 189 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: people about have you had communications from across the veil? 190 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: Have you had no other explanation stories of connecting with 191 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: the afterlife? It is stunning how many people have a 192 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: story to tell. 193 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: So we put out that call and they had to sort. 194 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: Through all these stories and choose the very best ones, 195 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 3: the ones that when I read them, I would turn 196 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: to my husband time and say, God, Honey, you have 197 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: to hear this one because they were just fascinating. And 198 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: those are the stories that made the cut, But there 199 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: are so many more that were just as interesting. 200 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: Because once we. 201 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: Start talking about these things, the stories are limitless. 202 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: They truly are. Give us one of the examples without 203 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: giving away all of the book. One of the stories. 204 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, how about the woman that was missing her 205 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: son very much. He had passed, he had crossed the veil, 206 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 3: and his name is Kevin. 207 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 4: And she went for a. 208 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 3: Walk on a trail and saying, Kevin, I wish you 209 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: could just show yourself to me in some way, just 210 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: to let me know that you're around. And she's walking 211 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: on the trail and it's a trail where there aren't 212 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 3: normally many people, and a long come I believe it 213 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: was a man with his dog, and they stopped and 214 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 3: they got to talking on the trail, and she said, 215 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: what's your dog's name? 216 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: And he said it's Kevin. 217 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, George, have you ever met anybody with 218 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: a dog named Kevin. 219 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: I've never known a dog named Kevin. 220 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: I haven't either. 221 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: And that people might say is just the synchronicity. And 222 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 3: you do this work long enough and you've learned that 223 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: there are no coincidences when you ask for signs like that. 224 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: Signs like that are called app death communications. That's a 225 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: different form of mediumship. When I do mediumship, I connect 226 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 3: mentally mind to mind with the spirits. But after death, 227 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: communications include signs that you just can't deny, show that 228 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: our loved ones are guiding us to certain situations. What 229 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: made her stop and talk to that man on the trail, 230 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 3: what made her come to ask, what's. 231 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 4: Your dog's name? 232 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 3: That's a form of connecting mind to nine with your 233 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: loved one, And you may not even realize it until 234 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: you have this kind of surprising, stunning moment that touches 235 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: you in your heart and lets you know, oh my gosh, 236 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: there's something else going on. 237 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: Here that when Sacred Stories put on its request for contributions, 238 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: you got more than the twelve people who are in 239 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: the book. 240 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: Seahreds, hundreds of them. They were flooded. 241 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that the Ariel, the publisher, realized what 242 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: she was getting into when. 243 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: She asked for that. 244 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: How is the the easiest what is the best way 245 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: to connect with spirit? 246 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: As you ask that, I just automatically took a deep 247 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: breath because right. 248 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: Now I'm talking much faster than I normally do. 249 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: I'm a little excited to share with everybody. But to 250 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: connect with spirit you shift channels. Basically, I'm using the 251 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: human mode channel to talk to you. 252 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 4: But if I were to talk to. 253 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: A spirit, I simply set an intention to connect with 254 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: that different frequency beyond the physical senses. I slowed down 255 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: my brain a little bit with a deep breath, and 256 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: then I notice what stands out from my normal thoughts. 257 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: How do we know it's not the brain trickiness? 258 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 4: But we don't know. 259 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: So that's why we look for what stands out. We 260 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: look for things that we don't possibly can't possibly know. 261 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: But most of all, George, we look for what is 262 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 3: helpful and healing. So anything that might be tricking us 263 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: might come from the ego, might come from another aspect 264 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: of consciousness. 265 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: That's not what we're asking for. 266 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: So as long as it's helpful in healing, that's what matters. 267 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: Most is some people Susanne, who have lost loved ones 268 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: not have any desire to get a hold of them 269 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: for whatever reason. 270 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: They do. 271 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely I found that that very rarely do I get 272 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: what I call drop ins when I'm aware of a 273 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: spirit with when I'm interacting with somebody, not doing a reading. 274 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: For example, one day, my husband and I were checking 275 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: into a campground. 276 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: We travel a lot. 277 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: By r V, and I was checking in with the 278 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: camp host, and suddenly I became aware of the presence 279 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: of a woman. And I looked at a photo frame 280 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: that was on his desk, and I knew it was 281 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: his wife. And I I don't usually do the There's 282 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: a TV show called The Long Island Medium, and she 283 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: tunes in all the time to people, just when she's 284 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: grocery shopping or in her normal life. I've never actually 285 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: seen the whole show, but I know that that's the 286 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: way she works. But all of a sudden, here's this 287 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: man's wife. 288 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: And I said to him, I see that picture on 289 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 4: your desk. 290 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: I know that's your wife and that she passed and 291 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: I can sense her now, and oh my gosh, Steard 292 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: he bristled, He looked afraid, and he said, I don't 293 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: want to hear any of that. And I said, okay, 294 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: I did not intend to barge in on your privacy. 295 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: And I left the office, and I. 296 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: Felt like I had done something wrong. But I looked 297 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: to spirit to that woman. I said, well, we tried so, 298 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: because she was right there. 299 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: She just wanted to. 300 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: Tell him that she's okay and that she loved him. 301 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: So all I could do was deliver, try to deliver 302 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: the message, but he didn't want to hear it. That's okay, 303 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: that was his path and he was on well. 304 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: With Susan geze Man, we are talking about one of 305 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: her books, Mediumship, but she's got several others, including The 306 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: Awakened Wind, The Awakened Way, and The Messages of Hope. 307 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: How many books do you have, Suzanne, Well. 308 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: It's interesting, George. 309 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: Mediumship just came out today and it's my fifteenth book. 310 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: But not all of them are about spiritual topics, but 311 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: those certainly are my favorites. 312 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: Well, it was ironic. I was getting on the plane 313 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: ready to go to Denver to do our Beyondbelief TV 314 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: show with you and your book arrived at my place. Huh, 315 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: and I went, oh, this is great. She's going to 316 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: be a guest on Coast to coast, but she's a 317 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: guest on Beyondbelief. Synchronicity. It's the best, isn't it. 318 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: It's beyond Belief. 319 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about the brain confusing us. 320 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: Does that happen a lot? 321 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: Confusing us or blocking us from being aware of what's 322 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: going on happens almost all the time. 323 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 4: We're walking in two worlds at once. 324 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: The physical world in a non physical world, and we 325 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: don't even realize it. We say the sun rises and sets, 326 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: but it doesn't, does it. 327 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 4: That's an illusion. 328 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: So when you start questioning reality, that's what I ask 329 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 3: people to do in my book The Awakened Way. It 330 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 3: reveals an entirely different reality that's right here, but until 331 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: we shift our focus, we're not aware of it. But 332 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: the thing is, when we shift our focus, especially in 333 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 3: an expanded state of consciousness, and find out that we 334 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: are accompanied by non physical helpers all the time, that 335 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 3: changes everything. 336 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: I mean, George, I went through. 337 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 3: My military career without being aware that I have help, 338 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: we all have help, and that life will flow so 339 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: much more easily. We don't have to do it all alone. 340 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: We're not only humans. That changes everything, and that's my 341 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: new mission to help people live what I call the 342 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 3: Awakened Way. Mediumship brought me to that awareness. So that 343 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: was just the start of a much greater journey that 344 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: all of us are really on as souls. 345 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 2: It's exciting the path that you're on, Suzanne, any regrets, The. 346 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: Only regret is that I didn't know about it earlier. 347 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: And yet I see the perfection and how it unfolds now, 348 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: so you know, you think that you understand something and 349 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 3: then another door opens. 350 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 4: So I get. 351 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 3: Excited when I wake up every day like, well I 352 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: know now, I don't know it at all, So what's 353 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: coming next? And so just always pushing the boundaries a 354 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: little bit more, stretching ourselves beyond our comfort zone. That's 355 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 3: what leads to growth, and that's what leads to more 356 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: and more literally. 357 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: Joy in our lives. 358 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 359 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 360 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: dot com for more