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Speaker 4: so we're gonna start off with the fast Break. This
Speaker 4: is a segment where we'll cover three stories in twelve minutes,
Speaker 4: and we have to start with Christmas Day.
Speaker 3: I don't know if.
Speaker 4: You've seen or explain what happened during this play, but
Speaker 4: could you explain what happened when you pull down the Lakers?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: OK, bro was I was a Scott Foster who's.
Speaker 2: I got a few referees I love, So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say one of my top two, top three favorite referees,
Speaker 2: I love Scott Foster, and I actually love Scott Foster.
Speaker 1: Like the reason I love Scott Foster.
Speaker 2: You got all of it in that game of why
Speaker 2: I love Scott Foster. He don't care who you are.
Speaker 2: He's gonna call the call however he sees it. Don't
Speaker 2: matter who you are. I love that about Scott Foster.
Speaker 2: You could be Lebron James, you can be Quentin Post.
Speaker 2: He gonna call it the same way, and he ain't
Speaker 2: afraid of you. Like no matter who you are, Scott
Speaker 2: ain't afraid. So I love Scott Foster for that reason
Speaker 2: so untrue fashion. My favorite referee is right here on
Speaker 2: the baseline on the box out. They hooked their arms
Speaker 2: in front of him, which you can't do is illegal,
Speaker 2: Like they connect and hold each other.
Speaker 1: How damn Yeah, Scott, I'm like, Scott.
Speaker 2: They can't do this, Like, hey, un like arms, you
Speaker 2: guys can't do that. So they unlike arms, and then
Speaker 2: they start to move their arms back together. So I
Speaker 2: look back at Scott. I'm like, Scott, he like, you
Speaker 2: can't do that. So you know me, Oh my.
Speaker 4: God, I think fast.
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, well, if their arms are connected,
Speaker 2: if you run into their arms, it's actually a foul
Speaker 2: on them. So so I'm like, I just alerted Scott twice.
Speaker 1: He see that they locking arm.
Speaker 2: I'm going so I take a little step back to
Speaker 2: load my run up, and then I just try to
Speaker 2: start taking off, running into the arm. When I run
Speaker 2: into the arm, Scott, you see that their arms was locked.
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna blow the whistle. So I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: they ain't blow the whistle. YEA, all right, I got
Speaker 2: I gotta do more to get this.
Speaker 1: Nuts. Come here, come here.
Speaker 4: I swear when I was watching that it was almost like,
Speaker 4: you told the ref Hey, look what I'm about to do.
Speaker 2: I told you, I said, Scott, they can't do this,
Speaker 2: so chuke this out.
Speaker 1: I don't hear. I don't hear.
Speaker 2: I don't hear a whistle blow yet, So I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: ain't enough contact yet, Like, let me create more contact.
Speaker 2: So I create more contact with it. Scott blows the
Speaker 2: whistle and go double foul. No follow on you? Shoot
Speaker 2: one free throw?
Speaker 1: Like what Scot?
Speaker 2: He like Draymond Like, I don't know what it should be,
Speaker 2: but I know you fouled, So whatever, Scott, But you
Speaker 2: just saw the look on He's like, Draymond, it's a
Speaker 2: follow on you, I said, Scott.
Speaker 1: They hooked. Arn. Scott goes to the referee, who's.
Speaker 2: Now on the baseline, Hey, switch positions with me so
Speaker 2: he can come down there and talk. You think it
Speaker 2: was not a foul on you, No, it was definitely
Speaker 2: a follow on me. Yeah, it was only a follow
Speaker 2: on me because he missed the first time when I
Speaker 2: ran into their own. Scott comes to the baseline and
Speaker 2: has a full conversation with incredible conversation. It was such
Speaker 2: a fun conversation and he's like Draymond, but don't. I
Speaker 2: don't know which one of the guys I wanted to
Speaker 2: call a follow on you all, I don't know which
Speaker 2: he said. If they were shooting free throws, I don't
Speaker 2: know which one of them. I get a free throws too,
Speaker 2: And we had a whole conversation, like I said, of
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons Scott is one of my
Speaker 2: favorite references, because there's this common misconception of like, you
Speaker 2: can't talk to Scott Foster.
Speaker 1: And I think that is so far from true.
Speaker 2: You can have a conversation with Scott Foster the entire
Speaker 2: game all night, as long as y'all are having a
Speaker 2: conversation back when you can't even raise your voice on
Speaker 2: he don't raise his voice back like and like I said,
Speaker 2: and at a certain point throughout the night, if you
Speaker 2: start to get disrespectful, God gonna tell you I'm done,
Speaker 2: ain't talking to you no more. And then if you
Speaker 2: talk to him, you're gonna get a tech. But Scott's
Speaker 2: not just a guy that you're gonna go talk to
Speaker 2: right away and get a tech.
Speaker 1: Like the man literally switched was.
Speaker 2: This, like, hey switch with me so he could come
Speaker 2: down there and talk some more like and it was.
Speaker 1: It was such a fun It was such a fun moment.
Speaker 2: It was and to how that moment with Scott, like
Speaker 2: I said, one of my favorite referees, truly a blige man.
Speaker 4: That was one of the all time free throw w
Speaker 4: w F w w he that was old school w
Speaker 4: w F Dusky Rhodes taken down boom with the double
Speaker 4: soup flex. Then he looked at the ref and said, what.
Speaker 1: All the first fill? Scott? I ran into their contact arm,
Speaker 1: call the first pot? What did I do?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Hey, Scott, Scott heard it?
Speaker 4: Scott, you should have caught that first foul. If Scott
Speaker 4: would have caught the first foul, then it would have
Speaker 4: made it all the more better. I think he missed that.
Speaker 2: If he would have, Scott, I'm moving on you hear this,
Speaker 2: but you owe me one next time.
Speaker 4: You let them boys lock arms like that, Scott, Scott.
Speaker 2: Let me pye, let me swing this swing this rock man.
Speaker 2: Why are the NBA ratings down like this? Like no,
Speaker 2: it's football season. But talk to me what you got
Speaker 2: for storytelling? Man?
Speaker 4: Storytelling storylines? I think you know, uh, as the visibility
Speaker 4: of the league is span you need more voices telling
Speaker 4: more authentic stories and being able to tap into these players.
Speaker 4: Like when I look at the media around the game
Speaker 4: is different.
Speaker 3: It's all like almost like fake.
Speaker 4: News, guys news, all the bullshit opinions, weird ass people
Speaker 4: giving hot takes. Everything is a hot take. And now
Speaker 4: you're kind of phasing out what we did every day.
Speaker 3: In the streets. You know what I mean, is like
Speaker 3: who your top five?
Speaker 4: Who the top ten, or who the top twenty five,
Speaker 4: and like you can't even really we don't even have
Speaker 4: that no more, you know what I mean, we don't
Speaker 4: even have like who the top five guards in the league?
Speaker 4: Who the top five big dudes, right and so? And
Speaker 4: then on top of that, with no stories, getting no nicknames,
Speaker 4: getting no superheroes, with no superpowers, and so now the kids,
Speaker 4: it's like, you know what I mean, It's like I'm
Speaker 4: getting Steph, but where's the Steph. Like the Steph Lebron
Speaker 4: story on Christmas Day? Gotta be a Christmas dream, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And you gotta have just more
Speaker 4: of the culture. I think you got so much media,
Speaker 4: but like you're given once again, getting a microphone to
Speaker 4: the people who don't really know the game or the
Speaker 4: history of the game, and so where there's no nostalgia,
Speaker 4: there's nowhere for you to kind of like dive in
Speaker 4: the game, for you to get to know these new dudes,
Speaker 4: and they don't. Right, I've been saying that, like this
Speaker 4: young generation, if we embrace them with their skill and
Speaker 4: learn who they are and learn their names, even though
Speaker 4: they're young coming in the league, like it would help
Speaker 4: even for them to know they pass, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And so like the questions may be a
Speaker 4: little different than nostalgia, may be a little different. Then
Speaker 4: you know why, you know, go to State and the
Speaker 4: Lakers got beef because it's history there, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. You know why the Detroit Pistons in Chicago
Speaker 4: got beef in this history there. So whether you're the
Speaker 4: best team in the league or the worst team in
Speaker 4: the league, you play for legacy and to keep that.
Speaker 3: Streak alive, you feel what I'm saying, or territory.
Speaker 4: And so the league just got away from like, man,
Speaker 4: like what the hell are we watching the games for
Speaker 4: if they don't mean nothing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's the fact. I agree.
Speaker 2: I think the storytelling is way down. I can't blame
Speaker 2: it all on media because players play. However, I do
Speaker 2: think players play by rules that are set, and I
Speaker 2: think the rules are not enjoyable to watch.
Speaker 1: It's just too.
Speaker 2: Clean, like it ain't no ah, like nah, there's no value.
Speaker 4: There's no value for possessions either.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it's not like it don't give you no Like
Speaker 4: I don't have no anxiety watching the game until the
Speaker 4: playoffs come, you know what I mean. I ain't no anxiety.
Speaker 4: Ain't like damn man, like we really need to stop
Speaker 4: right now. It's like the game's always like coming back
Speaker 4: from thirteen or it's never really a night game all
Speaker 4: the way through to build that narrative and to your point,
Speaker 4: the rules, the rules and the style of play is
Speaker 4: just can't be a pill in that. Like everybody want
Speaker 4: to be stepped, but ain't everybody's step.
Speaker 1: Bro mm hm.
Speaker 4: That's the fact that lot of bricking, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, It's a lot of breaking going on, and
Speaker 4: it's like, why is this dude shooting like crazy shots,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And it's like we want to see the superstar superstar.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I agree with that. And by the way, media no
Speaker 2: passes here. I can't blame solely y'all, but people tired
Speaker 2: of hearing y'all talk about what something who somebody slept
Speaker 2: with last night or such and such came in late.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody care? They want to hear you talk about basketball.
Speaker 2: But they've they've now done the argument culture for so
Speaker 2: long in sports that they don't know how to.
Speaker 1: Talk about basketball anymore.
Speaker 2: They don't know basketball anymore, so they speak out these
Speaker 2: pointless numbers that want to understand. It's no soul, like
Speaker 2: you know, it's like the league has lost its soul.
Speaker 4: It's no soul in it anymore. Hell of squares, man,
Speaker 4: it's just nonetheless.
Speaker 2: I do think, yes, in America the ratings are down
Speaker 2: for sure, but I'm sure globally.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all the way up. Yeah, but we get
Speaker 3: you know, like where is the culture and the intersection?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You can't just gone it's just like, oh, we're just
Speaker 4: gonna play rap music because like we just think that
Speaker 4: it's just gonna peel to people, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's like everything is like the NBA used to be
Speaker 4: the source of like culture curation, yes, for sure, content
Speaker 4: curation and commercials, Like look at all the whack ass
Speaker 4: commercials that's out you know what I mean, Like, man, like,
Speaker 4: name somebody who got a dope shoe commercial?
Speaker 1: Nobody I got. I got the dopest commercial on TV.
Speaker 4: Man the one with yeah with the is it the buick?
Speaker 4: What is that abuse? Okay, what's up?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 4: Andre?
Speaker 3: They send me one of them.
Speaker 1: But I wish I could sing you tell me and
Speaker 1: my baby girl.
Speaker 4: That's a fire commercial up. But but but it shows
Speaker 4: personality and they show you in a different environment. So
Speaker 4: what you see on the court, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like and it's new. Everybody else is just keep doing
Speaker 4: the same ship or hiring some influencers to like do
Speaker 4: social media. I don't want to see no social media accountent.
Speaker 4: I want to see a dope eyes Anthony Edward's commercial,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Not just a commercial, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I want to see what's the
Speaker 4: next KD commercial or you know, like what's the step
Speaker 4: like everybody should like it's no competition, and like, oh
Speaker 4: who got the dopest shoe? But who got the dopest commercial?
Speaker 4: Who got the best swag? Who got the authorize? Like
Speaker 4: it ain't even like that no more, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So it's like, why the fuck am I
Speaker 4: following when I ain't getting I'm only getting the game,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And like I don't even
Speaker 4: and I know the players. I'm just saying from a
Speaker 4: fan perspective, it's like I'm not tapped into all these
Speaker 4: guys because we don't know where they went to college,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like, it's just yeah, you
Speaker 4: better get some that. We gotta get some experts in here, man,
Speaker 4: because we need some voices to like explain people background
Speaker 4: they store. All these dudes got incredible stories and come
Speaker 4: from somewhere, and like we just suffering from like surface type. Shit.
Speaker 3: Man, this is important. I need to get your thoughts.
Speaker 4: What do you think or what were you thinking when
Speaker 4: you heard that Mike Brown was being fired?
Speaker 1: Well, first off, Travis asked me right away.
Speaker 2: He said, man, you said three or four years ago
Speaker 2: that Mike Brown will get fired in three to four years,
Speaker 2: even when he was having success. Why did you say that?
Speaker 2: I said, Well, I was right, huh, he said yeah.
Speaker 2: But why did you say that? I said, because he's
Speaker 2: in an organization that they fire coaches, and no matter
Speaker 2: what he does, he's going to get fired.
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 2: Mike Malone had their franchise player playing his best basketball
Speaker 2: he had played up until that point.
Speaker 1: Demarks Cousins.
Speaker 2: His first coach that they had brought in that he
Speaker 2: absolutely loved, and they fired him and he was doing well.
Speaker 2: I said, so what chance does Mike Brown have. He
Speaker 2: doesn't have a chance. He never had a chance. And
Speaker 2: that's why I said that. I said, but also travel.
Speaker 2: And the other reason I said it is because people
Speaker 2: tend to forget things that go on around the NBA
Speaker 2: or that are set around the NBA, and I don't.
Speaker 1: I actually remember everything. And I'm a like the Vet, who's.
Speaker 2: The owner of the uh the Sacramento Kings team.
Speaker 1: Organization.
Speaker 2: He was a minority owner here before he bought the Kings,
Speaker 2: And so I know the Vet.
Speaker 1: The Vex's great. I have zero issues with Avec.
Speaker 2: Actually love him, super nice, families nice, they are great.
Speaker 2: Where if a VEC lost me was and I quote
Speaker 2: or whatever, But I said, another reason I knew he
Speaker 2: would get fired is because people tend to forget these things.
Speaker 1: But the Vex incredible. He's a great man.
Speaker 2: But he once thought we should play four on five,
Speaker 2: like basketball should be played four on five, so much
Speaker 2: so that he tried it with the G LE team,
Speaker 2: and I said, so, yeah, you know, like you should
Speaker 2: cherry pick one guy. He should never come back on defense.
Speaker 2: You should play defense for like that, That's what And
Speaker 2: he thought that that should work, and he tried it
Speaker 2: with the G league team and I was just like,
Speaker 2: you know, trave So for a guy to like try
Speaker 2: to play four on five, you can't think that he's
Speaker 2: going to be like logical with the coach Daddy hired or.
Speaker 1: Fire like Jackie on five and so, like I said,
Speaker 1: I love event.
Speaker 4: Calling them Jackie Momball on five.
Speaker 2: Just so we're clear, beaud, the basketball set, ran is
Speaker 2: to put you in an advantage five on four, two
Speaker 2: on one, every basketball set is to create that advantage.
Speaker 2: You just gonna give us that advantage. Like so you know,
Speaker 2: I wasn't I was not at all surprised. And then
Speaker 2: the last thing I'll say, bed is on the heels
Speaker 2: of many Williams getting paid Bookoo Bread. They didn't even
Speaker 2: want to pay Mike Brown. They ended up giving them
Speaker 2: three for thirty h tim a year. I think he
Speaker 2: was trying to get like thirteen to fifteen a year.
Speaker 2: They kind of was like, all right, here's something, and
Speaker 2: so you know, with his contract negotiation this past offseason.
Speaker 1: You could just kind of see.
Speaker 3: The right commitment wasn't gonna be there.
Speaker 2: The commitment wasn't there, and Jackie Moon I was not
Speaker 2: the least bit surprised.
Speaker 4: Jackie Moon baby semi problem.
Speaker 1: So that's my take on Mike Brown being fired.
Speaker 4: Still shout out to Mike Brown, great coach. I'm sure
Speaker 4: you'll pop up somewhere.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And you know, just like time, we have went.
Speaker 4: Over time, way over time with a twelve minutes, so apologize.
Speaker 4: See y'all fans, we get kind of caught up, but
Speaker 4: we're going to stick to probably the next time, we're
Speaker 4: gonna try and knock this thing out in under twelve minutes.
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Speaker 3: Well on right. Hello, Duvnation.
Speaker 4: First, let's talk how it's been playing when my boy
Speaker 4: Dennis Schroeder for the past few games. Talk about that edition,
Speaker 4: drean what he means your team as he starts to
Speaker 4: gave more and more and acclimated.
Speaker 2: Man, I love playing with Dennis on our team. You know,
Speaker 2: we have battles against Dennis over the years, and so
Speaker 2: there's a mutual respect already there. But him coming to
Speaker 2: this team, he brings a feistiness that we need at
Speaker 2: the guard spot. He brings a demeanor that we need
Speaker 2: an alpha male. You know that doesn't hurt anyone. You know,
Speaker 2: there's no alpha here that feels uncomfortable with another alpha
Speaker 2: next to them, you know, And so we invite that,
Speaker 2: We invite you to be the exact alpha that you
Speaker 2: are in every situation and so.
Speaker 1: And enjoy I've enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately we haven't won as many games as we were
Speaker 2: like too, but it's you know, it'll come together, I believe.
Speaker 2: But man, Dennis is he's a leader, Like he gets
Speaker 2: to problems, Like if there's a problem, he see, he
Speaker 2: go right to it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: He had one situation I can't remember who it was,
Speaker 2: but like his first this was like his first. This
Speaker 2: was like I think his first game play with us,
Speaker 2: first and second game play with us. He we were
Speaker 2: sitting on the plane, you know, we go back. He
Speaker 2: sits at the gamble and say with us, and we
Speaker 2: were waiting to start because he was at the front
Speaker 2: of the plane talking to one of the players that
Speaker 2: some in the game and he's like, no, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to address that right now.
Speaker 1: And I just thought that was so dope.
Speaker 2: He said to me the other day in the Memphis game,
Speaker 2: which really changed my focus. And I text him after
Speaker 2: the game. I said, man, I haven't had a teammate
Speaker 2: say anything like that to me in years.
Speaker 1: He and he was like, yo, we was walking the
Speaker 1: high time.
Speaker 2: He like, yo, yeah, keep talking to them like we
Speaker 2: act these boys like and you know, he said a
Speaker 2: few choice words that was a little different than that,
Speaker 2: but we'll leave it at that. He like, keep talking.
Speaker 2: We don't keep talking to them. They ain't cut like that.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you're right, absolutely, but you're talking to
Speaker 2: the rush too much. Yeah, get off them, russ Man,
Speaker 2: talk to them. Talk to the Grizzlies were talking to them,
Speaker 2: get off them, Russ, And I was like, makes sense.
Speaker 2: And I came back out in the second half, locked
Speaker 2: in and I hit him out to the game and
Speaker 2: I said, Yo, I appreciate you saying that to me
Speaker 2: because it it locked me in on what I needed
Speaker 2: to be locked in on. And I'll be honest with you,
Speaker 2: not many people will say that to me. I'm thankful
Speaker 2: for that that you say that to me. Time huge,
Speaker 2: and I think he going to be a big help
Speaker 2: for us here. And you know, I think he's going
Speaker 2: to be a big part. Like he's still trying to
Speaker 2: get comfortable. You know, I don't think people really understand
Speaker 2: how it is to come to a team miss season.
Speaker 2: People really don't understand how hard it is to come
Speaker 2: to a team miss season and take the ball out
Speaker 2: of Steph Curry's hands, because that's what he's done. You know,
Speaker 2: he's coming and he's taking the ball out of Steph
Speaker 2: Curry's hand intentionally, Like that was the goal, you know,
Speaker 2: to find someone that can release relieve.
Speaker 3: Stuff a little bit.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and be on the ball wasting energy
Speaker 2: the whole time. And Dennis, you know he's coming and
Speaker 2: do that. But it's hard to you know, the times
Speaker 2: you can be out there and you feel like you're wrong. Man,
Speaker 2: you know, you're on the court with Steph Curry and
Speaker 2: it could feel a little wrong. You can mess with
Speaker 2: your head a little bit. So he's starting to get
Speaker 2: over that, and we're starting to see it more and more.
Speaker 2: He's starting to get more aggressive, and I think as
Speaker 2: he does, it'll be greater. Then he had said something
Speaker 2: else to me that I thought was like all right, respect.
Speaker 2: He was like, Dre, I'm telling you, man, I'm so
Speaker 2: excited to get here. I miss my family. It's like
Speaker 2: I missed my family and when they get out here,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you the player that I am when they
Speaker 2: get here him crazy. And I was like, people don't
Speaker 2: understand that side of it, though, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like this man missing his kids and his wife is
Speaker 2: really hard. Yeah, Like yeah, your day, like yeah, every
Speaker 2: day is just af you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: then you go into the game, but you've been feeling
Speaker 2: off all day every day for the last week and
Speaker 2: have you know. And so he's starting to, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: he's starting to come around for us.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think he's gonna be really good for.
Speaker 4: Us, like that Johnson Kaminga. He been balling, been playing
Speaker 4: really good as a lad, but he'll be sidelined for
Speaker 4: the next three weeks with an ankle injury. I mean,
Speaker 4: I know you high on his potential. What adjustments do
Speaker 4: you believe the team has to make with something like
Speaker 4: somebody like Kaminga. Now that he you know, stepping into
Speaker 4: that role, he now gonna be out for a long
Speaker 4: period of time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man sucks, especially he's playing his best basketball probably
Speaker 2: in his career so far, you know, and just to
Speaker 2: see him taking that next step, like what I've seen
Speaker 2: from him as of late is like, oh, I can
Speaker 2: get a ball up because I'm gonna get the ball
Speaker 2: back every possession, like so I can actually drive in
Speaker 2: and make the next play, which is making him even
Speaker 2: more dangerous because he's starting to hit some open shoes
Speaker 2: and stuff, which eventually just opens the floor up more
Speaker 2: for him. And just seeing him take those next steps,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying of a shot that he
Speaker 2: may with have forced because he don't know a how
Speaker 2: long he gonna be in the game.
Speaker 1: B when he gonna get the ball back. He ain't
Speaker 1: forcing none of that, No, more now.
Speaker 2: I always say, when you got great scorers, which I
Speaker 2: think he has the potential to be, they're gonna take
Speaker 2: some bad shots. Like you you not be a great
Speaker 2: scorer and not take any bad shots. And so he's
Speaker 2: still gonna take some shots that's questionable, as every great
Speaker 2: scorer does. But with the way he's starting to see
Speaker 2: the game now, the way the game is slowing down
Speaker 2: for him, it's been special to see. And I think,
Speaker 2: you know, for us, with missing him for these next
Speaker 2: three four weeks, it's tough. I think we're gonna need
Speaker 2: a much heavier doseph Andrew Wiggins. You know, in the
Speaker 2: last couple of games, he's been aggressive. We need that,
Speaker 2: especially that second starting the second half of that Memphis
Speaker 2: game when JK went out, Wiggs picked it up, and
Speaker 2: we're gonna need him to be really aggressive. I think
Speaker 2: also that you know, that's going to open up more
Speaker 2: minutes for slow Mo, which the last couple of games
Speaker 2: you've seen him, and I think, you know, uh, obviously
Speaker 2: we need JK out there and want them out there,
Speaker 2: but I think, you know, being in the space that
Speaker 2: we're in struggling a bit, getting a veteran like slow
Speaker 2: Mo out there can help right the ship, you know,
Speaker 2: it can help settle things down. And so I think
Speaker 2: it'll be a little more slow mo. We need a
Speaker 2: lot more uh wigs. Yeah, consistently, which he's been great
Speaker 2: all year. You know, I'm not saying he hasn't been consistent,
Speaker 2: but we're gonna need Whigs to be even more aggressive.
Speaker 2: And then all of us got to pick it up.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody got to be willing to shoot, because
Speaker 2: it's not going to be as much pressure on the
Speaker 2: rim without JK putting that pressure on the rim. And
Speaker 2: everybody got to come out ready to fire.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's a good an opportunity for
Speaker 4: some of the dudes and for you know, like we
Speaker 4: said at the beginning of the year, yeah, I got
Speaker 4: a lot of depth versatility. So this is kind of
Speaker 4: like could be a great turning point. And speaking of
Speaker 4: turning point, you know Steph calling the team very mid?
Speaker 1: What does that reflect about who you guys are right now?
Speaker 1: But what you guys can be going forward?
Speaker 4: How the kids say we're very mid right now?
Speaker 3: Just very average, right, I mean?
Speaker 4: And then he turned up the next game hit eight
Speaker 4: eight from the three point line. But you know, calling
Speaker 4: the Warriors very mid, you know, man, let's drill in
Speaker 4: on that.
Speaker 1: Man. Listen.
Speaker 2: When he said that and I read it, I was
Speaker 2: like oh, And I sat and started thinking about it,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, I get what he's saying. I
Speaker 2: get where he comes from. We are definitely like right
Speaker 2: at five hundred, like right in middle of the pack,
Speaker 2: very mid. And we heard him, and I think we've
Speaker 2: played a little better since, but again that's it's still
Speaker 2: got an equal stack and wins together.
Speaker 1: And we haven't done that. So until we do that, like.
Speaker 2: He said, you never want to when you're going through it,
Speaker 2: you never want to really accept that you're mid, or
Speaker 2: that you're not a good team or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: Like it's a horror pill to accept. And we haven't
Speaker 2: accepted it because we still think we got a chance
Speaker 2: and we could right the ship.
Speaker 1: But it's tough. Yeah, And so for him to just.
Speaker 2: Come out and say it, like, hey, it's real elephant
Speaker 2: and we made right now, Like all right, so now
Speaker 2: what now that we can acknowledge that what we got
Speaker 2: to do to figure this out and get better? And
Speaker 2: so when I first saw it, it was like a double take.
Speaker 2: But then I'm like yeah, we are very.
Speaker 4: Mid right sometimes, but it's a humbling experience because sometimes
Speaker 4: you gotta humble yourself and say like, Yo, we're around
Speaker 4: here doing this, we're doing that, we're saying this, we're
Speaker 4: saying that, like we was this, We not that no more,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So it's like almost like
Speaker 4: a self check moment to be yeah, we are very
Speaker 4: mad and then to look up and be like, hold on,
Speaker 4: we mean, how are we mean? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: We need to recalibrate because ain't nothing meant about you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, what we're doing. And so you know,
Speaker 4: when when it's when it's the big dog talking like that,
Speaker 4: you know, it's almost like a wake up call for
Speaker 4: absolutely everybody everybody else.
Speaker 2: And like, you know what, another thing that it does
Speaker 2: is it can also give God's confidence because it gives
Speaker 2: them like that freedom and be like, yo, just what
Speaker 2: we need to do right, And so then they don't
Speaker 2: have to live up to the pressure that's been created
Speaker 2: by what we've done, you know, because that's a thing
Speaker 2: like you come here and you feel like you need
Speaker 2: to live up to the pressure of what we've been
Speaker 2: and that's not a realistic thing. Man, and so I
Speaker 2: think that that also helps with that. But we start
Speaker 2: a four game road trip today in Detroit followed by
Speaker 2: the Pace and Raptors and Timberwolves. In your honest opinion, Uh,
Speaker 2: what do you see the toughest match up on this
Speaker 2: road trip?
Speaker 1: And where do you see the record being in this
Speaker 1: road trip?
Speaker 3: I mean, I would like to see y'all go three
Speaker 3: and one.
Speaker 1: I think that's a great road trip.
Speaker 4: Two and two is a good road trip. Uh, it's
Speaker 4: starting Detroit, you know what I mean. Like these young dudes,
Speaker 4: they hungry. They coming off of five hundred, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, They are already five hundred. They've just
Speaker 4: been playing, really just playing the ass off. You gotta
Speaker 4: beat Detroit, yeah, because then that puts then I take
Speaker 4: the pressure off of you know, Halliburton, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, don't want that steph fade in Indiana. They
Speaker 4: coming out like you know what I mean. They they
Speaker 4: coming out playing just as hard as y'all gonna.
Speaker 1: Play, Yeah, and maybe harder.
Speaker 4: I like Toronto. I think that they are at home.
Speaker 4: They're just like how the Toronto Raptors used to be
Speaker 4: when they weren't.
Speaker 3: When they were not.
Speaker 4: Tomorrow, you know, what I mean when they when they
Speaker 4: were not contenders, you better not going there half stepping
Speaker 4: because you could get not And then you know the
Speaker 4: Timberwolves waiting for y'all because they fit. You know, that's
Speaker 4: that's one of the other that's one of the team ship.
Speaker 4: That's very man you know what I mean. They're hell
Speaker 4: of men. So it's like who who's going to start
Speaker 4: laying some foundation in concrete in that middle market?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And like really product sat right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hell yeah, and like you know, uh and and
Speaker 4: it's that mindset to have wing you in the season
Speaker 4: like this getting ready for All Star getting you know,
Speaker 4: the ups and downs, trying to get like we were up,
Speaker 4: we down, we injured people coming in and out all
Speaker 4: of this, and you know for this All Star push,
Speaker 4: Like what are your thoughts around just like talk to
Speaker 4: the fans about everybody is going through something right, and
Speaker 4: then like what it's kind of like your recipe or
Speaker 4: is there a team meeting or you know, how do
Speaker 4: you guys like start writing the ship?
Speaker 3: Is it a meeting?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 4: You know, like because you know fans are always asking like, oh,
Speaker 4: we need a team meeting. Those dudes should just get
Speaker 4: together and talk or like what is the philosophy around
Speaker 4: kind of like this winner time, Like winner is here.
Speaker 2: You know, you have team meetings here and there, just
Speaker 2: trying to figure it out and talk talk amongst each other.
Speaker 1: Oh, which we've done.
Speaker 2: But the interesting thing about this team is it's like
Speaker 2: it ain't zero bad blood. Like the chemistry on this
Speaker 2: team crazy, it's incredible, and so it's not one of
Speaker 2: them things of where you need to get in and
Speaker 2: like call somebody out, like yo, we we ain't hitting
Speaker 2: on this, Like it ain't none of that. Like the
Speaker 2: chemistry on this team is incredible, and so like it's
Speaker 2: to play, Like we just got to play better, you know,
Speaker 2: and like that has to be the focus for us,
Speaker 2: Like we just have to play better because all the
Speaker 2: other stuff that you need to make you winning team
Speaker 2: we have, like rocking with each other off the court.
Speaker 2: We have, like you know what I'm saying, Like all
Speaker 2: the things that you need a round the play to
Speaker 2: be a great team, we have those teams. And so
Speaker 2: we just got to play better and win some games.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't really always.
Speaker 4: Like stop losing, stop losing games.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: This ain't one of them situations where it's like Yo,
Speaker 2: they struggling and it's problems in the locker. It ain't
Speaker 2: nothing like that, and so we've thrown games away that
Speaker 2: we shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Like, you just gotta win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, bro, I totally agree.
Speaker 4: You just you just gotta stop losing the games you're
Speaker 4: not supposed to lose or figuring out a way that like,
Speaker 4: you know, even like the little midseason tournament, going back
Speaker 4: to that and then Houston, it's like, look at that,
Speaker 4: like damn. And then it was like three games just
Speaker 4: like that. It was like, wait, what happened? Like I thought?
Speaker 4: I thought we got that locked up, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. And that's the difference between being very mint
Speaker 4: to being like, oh we were still silent in the top,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's one thou. Oh, let's go around the league a
Speaker 2: little bit. A few things happened since we were last here,
Speaker 2: starting with Kawhi is Lennard return? How do you feel
Speaker 2: about his return? And how can he help this Clippers team?
Speaker 3: It's going down.
Speaker 4: It's going down once Kawhi come back, Like uh, oh
Speaker 4: you got the beer? You got Norman Powell playing at
Speaker 4: an all star level as far as like shooting guards
Speaker 4: are concerned in this in this Western Conference, like he
Speaker 4: probably wanted the outside of Anthony Edwards, maybe Booker. He
Speaker 4: putting up persistent numbers. Man, you're talking about fifty three, forty.
Speaker 3: Five, ninety, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And one on one, ain't nobody stopping him getting this
Speaker 4: shot off. Defensively, you know, another added piece to now
Speaker 4: you know they defense with Ben Gundy and so now
Speaker 4: I think, you know, really from a Kawhi perspective, he
Speaker 4: get to kind of be almost like the Kawhi that
Speaker 4: was made for Toronto and the Kawhi that was made
Speaker 4: for San Antonio, right, because it's like, oh shit, here
Speaker 4: go a solid ass team that's great. Defensively, they already
Speaker 4: got an offensive weapon, they know how to, they know
Speaker 4: how to play and win with James and Norman Powell
Speaker 4: leading the charge, right and then Zubac combination. Now Kawhi
Speaker 4: is like, oh shit, Kawhi on the floor. Oh shit,
Speaker 4: Kawhi is killing you know what I mean? And like
Speaker 4: you ain't got it, Ain't nothing you can do but
Speaker 4: double team Kawhi.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna tell?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Are you gonna He's gonna tear you up, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 4: And so now it just creates a whole nother dynamic
Speaker 4: for the Clippers to where Kawhi is really that X
Speaker 4: factor that they needed. But during this season that if
Speaker 4: he didn't come back, they were a solid team that
Speaker 4: was gonna be there in the end challenging.
Speaker 2: All right, So I asked you this question, So who's
Speaker 2: taking a bigger hit, because something has to change in
Speaker 2: order for Kawhi to become Kawhi. Who's taking a bigger hit?
Speaker 2: James Harden and the way James has been playing this
Speaker 2: year or Norman. One of them ain't gonna like both
Speaker 2: of their production can't say the same in Kawhi didn't
Speaker 2: come be Kawai.
Speaker 1: So which one of those guys are gonna take more
Speaker 1: of it?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 4: Neither one interesting? Neither one because Kawhi don't get his
Speaker 4: money and Kawhi is efficient. That just means other people
Speaker 4: like coffee, you know what I mean? Dudes who was
Speaker 4: getting wide open looks and shit like that. He ain't
Speaker 4: about to get those those wide open looks now about
Speaker 4: to go to James and the swing to Norman.
Speaker 1: Pou You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because you got a double team Kawhi. If not, he
Speaker 4: gonna light you up. And so when you look at Kawhi,
Speaker 4: it's almost like you can clock in a quick dump,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Oh, let me let me
Speaker 4: clock in. Let me add that dump. And they don't
Speaker 4: really change nothing from what James doing because now James
Speaker 4: kicking to Kawhi, and so Kawhi get a chance to
Speaker 4: like eat off of like what they they already built,
Speaker 4: but like now they just got a motor to where
Speaker 4: James has done an incredible job of picking his spots
Speaker 4: because he knows he has to be a finisher and
Speaker 4: a closer. Now, you know what I mean, you got
Speaker 4: big shot making Norm Powell on the right side, Kawhi
Speaker 4: on the left side, and now you got hardened, you know,
Speaker 4: hardening the zubox screen pretty dangerous and defensively efficient too.
Speaker 1: No, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: I can agree with some parts of what you said,
Speaker 2: only where my opinion difference is I think James is
Speaker 2: going to take more of a hit because uh, and
Speaker 2: the words of Beer himself, I am a system and
Speaker 2: he is very much saw a system. I just don't
Speaker 2: know if his system the system that he is that
Speaker 2: Kawhi is going to necessarily just plug into that system.
Speaker 3: Why don't need a SYSTEMA?
Speaker 1: I agree, but James and James system.
Speaker 2: James always has the ball, and I just think with
Speaker 2: Kawhi now on the floor, that lessons how much James.
Speaker 1: Is going to have the ball.
Speaker 2: And again, in the eyes of I am a system,
Speaker 2: that lessons how much that James is going to have
Speaker 2: the ball. Obviously, I think James is going to continue
Speaker 2: to play great, but I think he's going to have
Speaker 2: to take a step back in order if they want
Speaker 2: Kawhi to come back and be the Kawhi of Oh
Speaker 2: the Kawhi that we know.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: He's coming back from a knee injury, so it's going
Speaker 2: to take time to ramp up and stuff and we'll
Speaker 2: see how it plays out. But if one guy is
Speaker 2: going to lose some of his production and touches, I
Speaker 2: think it'll be James, just because I am a system.
Speaker 1: In that system, he got the ball.
Speaker 4: James is the system. Kawhi I don't need a system,
Speaker 4: and so that means Kawhi is the ultimate.
Speaker 3: Compliment to James his system because Kawhi is Kawhi.
Speaker 4: He is a Kawhi is on his own island. It's
Speaker 4: just a plug in, you know what I mean. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's like a hell of battery charge. Now, James, all
Speaker 4: he gotta do is figure out, Okay, when I passed
Speaker 4: the ball to Kawhi, I'm not getting that one back, right,
Speaker 4: So I gotta get Kawhi five shots supporter. You know,
Speaker 4: when he had full full health other than that man
Speaker 4: James operate. He got rested moments now right where if
Speaker 4: you watch, you know, as James get older, he chills too.
Speaker 4: He gets off the ball. Now he not He not
Speaker 4: the Houston James. He is the system, but he's not
Speaker 4: the Houston James. So he been getting off the rock.
Speaker 4: And that's how I think Norman has been flourishing. You know,
Speaker 4: they run stuff for Norm. Remember Norm average twenty points
Speaker 4: with Kawhi and PG and Harden coming off the bench.
Speaker 4: So you know now that there's no PG, and it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, not having Paul George right for the Clippers
Speaker 4: open up so many shots for so many people, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And it allowed.
Speaker 4: James to kind of be the initiator and like Kawhi
Speaker 4: to be the free spirit.
Speaker 2: Joe Missoula, I got what he wanted a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago, he said, we need to start fighting in
Speaker 2: the NBA. Amen Thompson got into it with Tyler Hero,
Speaker 2: Urkis got into it with Naji Marshall.
Speaker 1: I'm a one four flat to this one.
Speaker 2: I take this one starting with the Amen Thompson and
Speaker 2: Tyler Hero. While he's while he swing Tyler Hero like
Speaker 2: that like he was.
Speaker 1: Just a little kid, throwing him on the couch was crazy.
Speaker 4: He was. He swung him like the doll that wasn't
Speaker 4: supposed to be sitting there.
Speaker 1: Whoa, And the way he swung him was crazy.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Terry Rocher came and got involved the way he should,
Speaker 2: which I respected.
Speaker 1: The way he got involved for the young fella.
Speaker 4: I didn't see. I can't see all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Terry Rose here came and Pence I came
Speaker 2: right in and you gotta do that. Tydler Heroes about
Speaker 2: to be the face of that franchise, you know, And
Speaker 2: so I respected that. I did not quite understand. Well,
Speaker 2: they were about to play us the next day and
Speaker 2: he just out of nowhere like picked an argument then
Speaker 2: swamp And I hope that brother got the help he need,
Speaker 2: because man, it was just like out of nowhere, like
Speaker 2: something's wrong and life, Like he must be going through
Speaker 2: a really hard time in life to just go back
Speaker 2: and swing like that, or like possibly maybe he didn't
Speaker 2: want to play against the team that he was going
Speaker 2: to play the next day, like that could be a thought.
Speaker 2: It was just a little surprise to see him swing
Speaker 2: like that, but then to get pushed on the ground
Speaker 2: and then start whining about it and grabbing his face.
Speaker 2: I was really shocked. Yeah, you can't swing and then
Speaker 2: get pushed on the ground and like grab your face
Speaker 2: and cry about it.
Speaker 1: Like once you.
Speaker 2: Swing, you it was you that kind of said this
Speaker 2: is what it is. And so I was just a
Speaker 2: little surprised. But that brother needs some help, and I
Speaker 2: hope he get the help.
Speaker 4: He need help.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, getting that Come man, you know.
Speaker 1: You can't just be swinging that ain't gonna stand up,
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 2: I know what I'm saying, You're just swinging out of nowhere,
Speaker 2: surprising everybody.
Speaker 1: I was a little shocked by that. When I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie.
Speaker 2: But they was going to play against us the next day,
Speaker 2: and sometimes peop forget Draymond, I this and I get
Speaker 2: it and it's all right.
Speaker 3: Okay, he was he would get you passed.
Speaker 4: It was definitely not not thinking about He was like, damn,
Speaker 4: might as well get up out of this one.
Speaker 1: Let me bed.
Speaker 2: I would say, though, I'm very surprised that the guy
Speaker 2: who got swung on got suspended for more games. Then
Speaker 2: that's weird like that I did not understand. They said, oh,
Speaker 2: he tried to keep going in the back, like stop,
Speaker 2: he gets one more game suspension than the guy who
Speaker 2: swung on him.
Speaker 1: So like what am I to do if I get
Speaker 1: swung on?
Speaker 2: Just standing there because I'm going to get suspended Like
Speaker 2: that is crazy? And so I was a little shocked
Speaker 2: by a little bit. I was a little shocked by that,
Speaker 2: just Najie Marsha getting suspended for more games than yeah,
Speaker 2: one who got swung than the guy that needs some help. Stop,
Speaker 2: don't don't talk around that word enforcer like that. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: He's coming for you.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: What I was.
Speaker 4: I was a quote saying, man, I said, have saved
Speaker 4: Albem for Jmond Green.
Speaker 3: The next night, ooh just kidding, you don't want and bro.
Speaker 4: Hey, I was watching the h the Mike epps U
Speaker 4: comedy thing when he said like that, get I can
Speaker 4: imagine you outside the Phoenix Arena, like no, you gonna
Speaker 4: have to see me.
Speaker 1: You gotta see me. You can't get out of here
Speaker 1: like that. You gotta see me. You got to see me.
Speaker 4: Jeff all right man, continuing the Suns asked Bradley Beal
Speaker 4: to come off the bench forty sixty million. He's a
Speaker 4: starter as someone who's been asked to come off the
Speaker 4: bench earlier this season. Bro, do you think this will
Speaker 4: help the Suns? And does this make sense at all?
Speaker 2: It may help in the interim, right, like, it may
Speaker 2: help if they want to win at the level that
Speaker 2: they want to win that Bradley Bill is one of
Speaker 2: their best players. Tough to bring them off the bench,
Speaker 2: you know. And he had twenty five the first game
Speaker 2: coming off the bench, which is great. But like that
Speaker 2: game when he has six, it ain't gonna necessarily be
Speaker 2: as pleasant, you know what I'm saying. And so shout
Speaker 2: out the brad of being a professional and going to
Speaker 2: the bench and coming off the bench for twenty five
Speaker 2: and the first time he did it in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: But like I said, I don't I think yes, it
Speaker 2: could help in the interial, But to win at the
Speaker 2: level that I think that team is expected to win
Speaker 2: that which is to be contenders. I don't think you
Speaker 2: can necessarily be a contender with Bradley Bill coming off
Speaker 2: the bench on that team.
Speaker 4: All right, man, you know my motivated Doc Rivers this year?
Speaker 4: Whoever is the Knicks coach, get your shit together, Bro Buthhozer, Man,
Speaker 4: get your shit together. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: get your shit together? Man? What like you said, like,
Speaker 4: how you gonna win in Bradley Bill College? Man, if
Speaker 4: you can't coach the three superpowers you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: or superstars and figure out like that's your job, what
Speaker 4: the hell does him coming off the bench got to
Speaker 4: do it the first four minutes anyway, because he coming
Speaker 4: right in, you know what I mean. It's like, man,
Speaker 4: that's it's fool's gone, you know what I mean? Because
Speaker 4: to your point, when he gets twelve or he gets
Speaker 4: six and he can't really catch a rhythm, he got
Speaker 4: twenty five because he.
Speaker 1: Was just mad.
Speaker 4: The way you start the game is the way you
Speaker 4: want to finish together, and that's the confidence in them
Speaker 4: dudes to figure that shit out now Throughout the course
Speaker 4: of the game. You got a sub I'm bringing Katie out.
Speaker 4: Bill is your tar? Booker? Is you? And KD Turn?
Speaker 3: Booker turned KD Turn you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And like, you gotta understand as a coach how to
Speaker 4: get them dudes and flow. You got four quarters.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: They can all get they fifteen twenty shots. Like, but
Speaker 4: I don't know about.
Speaker 3: This coming off the bench. Just doesn't make too much
Speaker 3: money to be coming off the bench. What is we doing?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 3: That is the most disrespect? Like who's starting in front
Speaker 3: of him?
Speaker 1: Back?
Speaker 4: You feel you know what I'm saying, Who's who is
Speaker 4: starting in front of him? And I would like to
Speaker 4: understand what's the rational right you put your best players
Speaker 4: on the floor. Ain't no way at Bradley Beal coming
Speaker 4: off nobody bitch to be no six man or none
Speaker 4: of that shit when he's bona fide and approven playmaker
Speaker 4: and the piece that y'all went and traded for to
Speaker 4: go get. All right, man, I'm gonna take a TV
Speaker 4: time out we can talk about something a little bit
Speaker 4: more from the TV analy side. This week, I Charles
Speaker 4: Barkley is discussing Anthony Edwards. Charles Barkley, I quote, I
Speaker 4: think Anthony Edwards has regressed. Anthony Edwards, on the other hand,
Speaker 4: recently expressed frustration about being double team and scores career
Speaker 4: high at fifty three points and a loss to Detroit.
Speaker 4: We know they are underachievement. Do you agree with Chuck?
Speaker 2: I don't think Anthony Edwards is regressing. I don't think
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards has played the way everybody expected him to
Speaker 2: come back, playing from going to a Western Conference finals,
Speaker 2: with the hunger, with the tenacious attitude that he has. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I don't think he's done that but regress. He's gotten
Speaker 2: better actually as a player. This jump shots way better,
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't say regressed. I don't think that's the
Speaker 2: right word. I If I was even gonna make this argument,
Speaker 2: I think I would have went more along the lines of, like, yo,
Speaker 2: it's Anthony Edwards content because he went to the conference finals.
Speaker 2: I would take more that approach if I was going
Speaker 2: to do that, rather than like Anthony Erwars has regressed,
Speaker 2: because that's just not true. He hasn't regressed one bit.
Speaker 2: I yeah, I would just say.
Speaker 1: More of that. But in saying that, removing a player
Speaker 1: like kat is a big big, big, big, big big big,
Speaker 1: big big.
Speaker 2: Deal and it takes some time to figure out a
Speaker 2: move like that, Like it can take some time to
Speaker 2: figure that out. I think, you know, you see the
Speaker 2: last two games, he had fifty three, then he had
Speaker 2: thirty seven, averaging forty five over his last two games.
Speaker 2: And I saw that he complained about the double teams.
Speaker 2: The reality is that's just it being at like it
Speaker 2: is gonna say whatever he thinks, but he going to
Speaker 2: get double team like you can't stop him one on one.
Speaker 2: So that's going to happen, and he should expect to
Speaker 2: see more of that. And this coach has better figure
Speaker 2: out how to negate those double teams. But they ain't
Speaker 2: going away. You talk about losing a guy like carl
Speaker 2: And Towns, that even opened up the possibility for double
Speaker 2: teams because you you can help off a little more
Speaker 2: because he's the way he shoot the ball. I mean,
Speaker 2: excuse me, you couldn't help off as much because of
Speaker 2: how quick catch trigger is and how well he shoot
Speaker 2: the ball. And so I think they still have some
Speaker 2: adjustments to make. Like I told at the at the
Speaker 2: Olympics after the game, after they wanted the gold medal,
Speaker 2: don't be a moment guy, Like, don't be one of
Speaker 2: those guys that had their moment that went to the
Speaker 2: conference finals that we never hear from again. And I
Speaker 2: don't think he has that attitude. But you know, he
Speaker 2: got to take that next step. Yeah, I would definitely
Speaker 2: believe that he will. I do at least I agree.
Speaker 4: I think, uh, it's not regress, right, it's more like
Speaker 4: he has it taken the next step. I think he's
Speaker 4: gotten better, But what does what does that mean for
Speaker 4: someone who's so talented and you know, huge expectation. I
Speaker 4: think my challenge to him is he hasn't figured out
Speaker 4: how to get fifty three and dominate a game. He
Speaker 4: hasn't figured out to walk on the court and say,
Speaker 4: not only am I the best player, I'm the most talented,
Speaker 4: I'm the most athletic, and I can win this game
Speaker 4: based on my ability, my know how, my knowledge, time
Speaker 4: is score. I think he's still very similar to winby
Speaker 4: right is he's learning the game, he's learning how to
Speaker 4: play the game, but he's not learning yet to dominate
Speaker 4: the game or to be a winner in game situations,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And so it goes to like, yeah,
Speaker 4: he balling. He's a baller. He can't be stopped. But
Speaker 4: it's also like he has to figure out how to
Speaker 4: make Julius Randall valuable for him in a different way
Speaker 4: than Kat was because you don't have Cat now to
Speaker 4: say all that, not having Cat and having Julius Randall,
Speaker 4: like you got to figure out how does deal gonna
Speaker 4: compliment you? Because the floor is different, the spacing is different,
Speaker 4: the style is different. The way Julius Randall want to
Speaker 4: get his shots, his touches.
Speaker 1: And so different.
Speaker 4: Now you got Julius Randall, Rudy Gobert, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. Conley like it looked like the same team,
Speaker 4: but you don't fear them beating you from the outside.
Speaker 4: You don't fear them beating you at the rent. You
Speaker 4: don't fear their height or their size. And so well,
Speaker 4: now you have you have nowhere to hide or disappear
Speaker 4: or your game for other people to really compliment you.
Speaker 4: To step up because all eyes are on you, right,
Speaker 4: because it's just a different, like the spacing is different,
Speaker 4: the energy to close out on everybody else. It's a
Speaker 4: shorter close out or it's a slower close out right,
Speaker 4: which allow you to get double teams. So I think
Speaker 4: for him, he got to understand, like there's a game
Speaker 4: within the game within the game, right And for what
Speaker 4: you're saying, don't be the moment, dude. It's like you
Speaker 4: can get back to the air, but you're not going
Speaker 4: to get back to the conference finals with Karl Anthony
Speaker 4: Towns because you don't play it there no more. So
Speaker 4: stop complaining about Randall. Make that shit work. Make Rudy
Speaker 4: Gobert do something, you know what I mean, and figure out,
Speaker 4: like figure out how to be the centerpiece of everything
Speaker 4: they need without saying like I'm passing too much, I'm
Speaker 4: staring too much, I'm missing that too much. It's like
Speaker 4: we don't need none of that, No, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I feel you. But the word regrets.
Speaker 2: Is not a He's not played against Anthony Edwards this year.
Speaker 2: I can tell you for certain, he ain't regretted. Bit
Speaker 2: he comes down talking to you like, oh, Dre, you
Speaker 2: think I might. I'm telling you, Dre, my three better.
Speaker 2: I told you, yeah, y'all ain't gonna guard me like that.
Speaker 2: My three is nice, Like he talking to you while
Speaker 2: he's shooting it. He ain't regrets now.
Speaker 4: His game got better. His game awareness basketball IQ as
Speaker 4: far as like taking that next next step to be
Speaker 4: a superstar and be somebody that's He's not feared his
Speaker 4: fifty three points. His points are not feared enough, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, And so like there needs to
Speaker 4: be an opportunity for him to walk in the game
Speaker 4: and be like, I can beat you scoring fifty three.
Speaker 4: I can beat you scoring thirty. I can beat you
Speaker 4: scoring like I can just win this game because I
Speaker 4: got controlled. And I think that's the situation he's in
Speaker 4: now in Minnesota, because you don't have somebody with that
Speaker 4: high level of confidence that feel like I'm wanted him
Speaker 4: ones too, you know what I mean, And so you
Speaker 4: don't have that to feed off of. Everybody got a
Speaker 4: feed off that shit from you, and so you got
Speaker 4: to be more responsible about once again, how do you
Speaker 4: play the game until it's time for you to be
Speaker 4: a winner? You know what I mean? You may have
Speaker 4: to James Harden and shit.
Speaker 1: I agree, So I don't know. We'll see.
Speaker 2: We got them next week, So we shall see. We
Speaker 2: got a new segment on the show called What's that Tweet?
Speaker 2: It'll be explaining the reasoning behind certain tweets to kick
Speaker 2: things off let's look at a repost from BD. I
Speaker 2: was surprised to see Jay Z performing by wearing a
Speaker 2: Baron Davis jersey. When did that take place? Also was like,
Speaker 2: when was the first time you ever met Hope?
Speaker 4: Uh? That was we was in college at UCLA. Shout
Speaker 4: out to the All MEI hip Hop, the Hommie Hirey.
Speaker 4: They came by, you know, they was, you know, hip hop,
Speaker 4: A big basketball fan and he was like one of
Speaker 4: the youngest an rs at Rockafella. So he was like, yo,
Speaker 4: you want to meet Jay, Like Jay wan I rocky
Speaker 4: jersey for the hard knock life You've been coming out
Speaker 4: in different people jersey. I was like, what bro we
Speaker 4: hopped in the whip hit down Sunset Cafe Man's it
Speaker 4: was Jay Dame Dash was there.
Speaker 3: He wasn't that nice to us, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Uh, But Jay was hellic cool, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: He was young, he was like and you know it
Speaker 4: was a hard knock life tour, but he was like yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I got a jersey for you.
Speaker 4: I gave him the white one. I gave him the
Speaker 4: black Ucla jersey because me and Earl Watson for the
Speaker 4: first time we designed. We told the coach like, yo,
Speaker 4: we should make black jersey. So they we had a
Speaker 4: U c L A black jersey. I gave him like
Speaker 4: U c L A black jersey. They invited us to
Speaker 4: the concert. Man, we was backstad like that's college kids,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? You got red man, you
Speaker 4: know you backstage with you know, a young John Rude
Speaker 4: d MX home and it was I was like, man,
Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna bring me on stage and ship.
Speaker 4: He didn't do that. You feel mean I was backstage.
Speaker 4: I was just waiting for my moment, like, hey, bro,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, I'm big out here too,
Speaker 4: Doug bring me out on the stage. But when he
Speaker 4: showed up with the jersey, that was just everybody with nuts,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: And so one of the moments that he kind of
Speaker 4: won the crowd over because he knew his jersey to wear.
Speaker 1: You feel you saved hole that night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, I took the whole team too. We
Speaker 4: had a uh, we had a nice little time.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: We had no n I L. Bread, but imagine I
Speaker 3: couldn't imagine. And if we.
Speaker 1: Didn y'all had that legal bread.
Speaker 4: It's cool, you know, stocks and bonds on New Year's Eve,
Speaker 4: you talk about okay, see saying chut out and shaking hoot?
Speaker 1: Really well?
Speaker 4: What game were you watching and do you believe they
Speaker 4: are the best team in the NBA. Also, what do
Speaker 4: you think about SGA for m v p uh.
Speaker 2: What I was talking about was when I just said check,
Speaker 2: I said shaking, really who?
Speaker 1: And then I said chut out.
Speaker 2: The reason when I was thinking when I said shut
Speaker 2: out because I was watching that game and I was
Speaker 2: just like, man, this team is good. It's hand and
Speaker 2: chat out and chut out. Like I'm just sitting there
Speaker 2: like huh, like hut out and this good. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: And so that's what I was saying, and then shaking
Speaker 2: hoot really well, it's just like you know, you watched Shade.
Speaker 2: He ain't really doing nothing that's blowing you away, except
Speaker 2: he may make a move here, you know, Like it
Speaker 2: ain't like it's the most speed or the highest jumper,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, or like the most flawless
Speaker 2: jump shot you ever seen. It ain't none of that,
Speaker 2: except he gonna create all the space he wants. Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, he gonna get wherever he wants, He gonna
Speaker 2: get whatever shot he wants at whatever pace he wants
Speaker 2: to do it at, like it's crazy. And I was
Speaker 2: just watching I'm like, yo, this dude, like just simply
Speaker 2: put he who really Well, I'm.
Speaker 1: Not about to sit here trying to break his down.
Speaker 1: I'm not about to go shaking hoop.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that's just what I was watching him play against
Speaker 2: the Terminal Wolves, actually against and Man, and the way
Speaker 2: they came back in that game, it was just like
Speaker 2: so poised and like just watching Shade do what he do,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Wow, this is crazy. I can't say they're
Speaker 2: the best team in the NBA. That's Boston until someone
Speaker 2: proves otherwise. The best team in the NBA is the
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics, I think. I think, Okay, see it is real. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but until further notice, the best team in the NBA
Speaker 2: is the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 1: Until you can beat them and dethrown them, that's the
Speaker 1: best team.
Speaker 2: And they got the same team from last year, so
Speaker 2: it ain't like they won the championship and lost big pieces.
Speaker 1: Until you can beat them, that's the best team in
Speaker 1: the NBA.
Speaker 4: Period.
Speaker 3: That's not always worked.
Speaker 1: Period.
Speaker 2: Ah Man, Before we get out of here, I got
Speaker 2: five on it. Next up, I got five on it
Speaker 2: where BD discussed his five players that he's high on
Speaker 2: the start the new year. Who are your top five
Speaker 2: players in the league right now?
Speaker 4: Okay, we just talked about SGA man because he's just
Speaker 4: on the tear, you know this, and no particular order.
Speaker 4: I got no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, no no. Is this order a particular order?
Speaker 3: Oh wow? This okay?
Speaker 4: This is my particular Okay, this is this is how
Speaker 4: the MVP like this, This is it. Number one, ain't
Speaker 4: no particular or s G a front runner Canada. Number two,
Speaker 4: Number two Joker just because.
Speaker 3: And ship.
Speaker 4: What else I'm saying, you know what I'm saying. Number
Speaker 4: three Tatum, which is kind of like a two because
Speaker 4: Joker do not want so many Tatum have an MVP
Speaker 4: year Boston, you know, just kind of like making that run.
Speaker 4: But the way he closing out games is like really
Speaker 4: on some like superstar MVP level type.
Speaker 1: Ship.
Speaker 4: Y yeah, Yanni is with just like it was because
Speaker 4: of he decided that he's going to turn the Minnesota
Speaker 4: Milwaukee Bucks around, right and like Giannis is back to Jannison,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and doing what he do.
Speaker 4: And then number five for me, is I would say
Speaker 4: a sleeper in this whole thing is James Harden. Look
Speaker 4: at what the Clippers have done up until this point
Speaker 4: in the season.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: The Beard is back, and I would say back better
Speaker 4: than ever. Taking that two years in Philadelphia as a
Speaker 4: playmaker would embiid and allowed him to like now figure
Speaker 4: out okay, now no, I to redefined his system and
Speaker 4: now it's working for the Clippers. And you know he's
Speaker 4: just still one of the toughest dudes to guard, you know,
Speaker 4: in that pick and roller.
Speaker 1: Right, So I.
Speaker 2: Am a system and I am Draymond Green and he
Speaker 2: is Baron Davis. And that is a rap in this
Speaker 2: episode of The Draymond Green Show. Would my dog beat here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the volume