1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on Home of the Black and 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the drive by 3 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: and Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson and uh, just 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: looking here at Bill Barnwell has his UH ranking. The 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: NFL m VP candidates Awards picks through week four of 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: two made me think of, you know, we talked some 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: offensive Rookie of the Year before the UH it's a 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: couple days ago. I think we were chatting, well, we 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: were talking about that in the preseason. We had you know, 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: we're talking little Kenny Picket there, We're talking little George Pickens. 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: And so I just wanted to call it the most 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: the odds now, Crystal Lave the favorite is according to 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: this according to Draft Kings, I don't know who the 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: favorite should be. Crystal Lava is the favorite at plus 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: five hundred. Damian Pierces plus six fifty. Drake London plus 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: seven hundred. That was my preseason pick was London. Romeo 17 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: Dubbs is plus seven hundred. Can you pick it now? 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: Plus eight hundreds? So still, so I think he should 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: be righting to the top. I mean really, just because 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: the position he plays absolutely quick. You know he's gonna 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: you know better or worse. Right, he's gonna get what 22 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: games starts. Probably then you get that Garrett Wilson, George Pickens, 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: and Breece hallop all up plus twelve hundred. I might 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: bump all up a little bit too, just because he's 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: really the only back in the conversation, and you know 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna get touches more so than the receiver. Well 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: pierces there plus six. I can't a team. I can't 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: imagine him holding up for the whole year and a 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: bad team. Yeah, I mean, he's been impressive, he's been 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: the focal point of their offense. But when they're losing 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, he's not gonna be putting on the number. 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Ye know they're gonna be losing the fourth quarter. Lot, 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, picking a plus eight hundreds pretty good, right, 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: that's not bad. That's not The Pickens one isn't awful either, 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: because he's already put stuff on tape to get excited. 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: That catch doesn't doesn't hurt either, No, it doesn't. Uh 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: So Barnwell looking at his uh he's got his defensive 38 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: rookie of the year here first. His number three is 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: Jalen Watson, cornerback for the Chiefs. Yeah, I mean he's 40 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: been fine, he's been okay. There's I think there's some 41 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: other guys out there. I would look at them before 42 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: I look at him. Curious who the top two are. 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: But to his Treek Woolen okay, I mean he's a big, 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: freaky corner from Seattle six four ran a four two 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: and they concerted right in the lineup, and he's done well. 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: And then one is Devn Lloyd. He had a rough 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: one against the Eagles, but he's been really good before 48 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: that and putting up numbers. I would have Walker on 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: there before. I have Walker and Hutchinson certainly, but I 50 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: know Jalen Watson had the touchdown return against the Chargers. 51 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: That's really all he's done. I mean, let's not get 52 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: too carried away. Um who was number two again? Uh? 53 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: Tree will and that's both the corners would be behind 54 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: the two overall for me. I mean Hutchinson gets doubled 55 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: all the time they're producing. Walk is making plays. Yeah, 56 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: offensive rookie of the year. He has Damian Pierce at three. Okay, alright, 57 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: and not saying if he voted right now, is that okay? Okay, 58 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: that's not his predictions. And then a two and one. 59 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: I guess he's gotta basically a tie here. He has 60 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: Wilson and a lobby, the two Ohio state guys. That's fine. 61 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: Wilson's have one good game, one good game. None of 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: those guys have great resumes, which brings us to picket 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: that absolutely not that much in your way to win 64 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: that award, and you don't have to be a top 65 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: ten quarterback to do it. Three shows. If you're have 66 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: a successful rookie year, you know you're you're in the mix. Yeah, 67 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: and the competition is not great this year. Coach of 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: the Year, Now this is rough because it's a four 69 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: game stress yea. You know there are plenty of guys who, wow, 70 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: he looks like the coach of the year kid, and 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: that through four weeks, and then the team finishes six 72 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe even the no fall to his 73 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: they lose t J. Water, Donald or Garrett or you know, 74 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: he's got Kevin Connal number three. The Vikings, I don't 75 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: know if they've exceeded expectations. I don't think so either. 76 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: They're fine, kind of barely beat the Saints. I mean, okay, 77 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm not having a candidate that's screaming in my ear 78 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: right now, though, either he's got Mike McDaniel number two. 79 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: That's interesting. I mean, I'm I'm on board with that. 80 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: His obvious test now is life without two of for 81 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: short term, long term, who knows, we'll see. But I 82 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: mean they beat the Bills, I mean they've done good things. 83 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: Number one. He is Nick Sirianni. I guess kind of 84 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: an easy one. Yeah, yeah, I mean how about what 85 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: they're doing in Jacksonville right now? Yeah, I mean the 86 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: Eagles were expected to be good. I don't know a 87 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: lot of people thought they'd be, you know, elite. They've 88 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: had a pretty easy schedule too. They have a very 89 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: easy schedule. The biggest turnaround is Jacksonville. Unless you want 90 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: to think about the Giants. I mean they're three and 91 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: one two. I mean nobody felt that are so much 92 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: better than Yeah, but nobody thought the Giants were gonna 93 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: win three games this year. I know we didn't let 94 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: alone be three one. I mean, if they're in the 95 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: playoff hunt, yeah, he should have a really strung You 96 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: can make a strong case for Mike McCarthy and Dallas too. 97 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking that they've overcome a storm and really 98 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: are playing with house money now, especially if you look 99 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: around the NFC. Unfortunately for them, they the best team 100 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: in the conferences in their division. But coming to the 101 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: top seven for Dallas now it seems like a slam dun. Yeah. Absolutely, 102 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean the rush back back and you know you're 103 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: in good shape. Yeah, I think more, even more so 104 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: than those other guys, those those few guys, I mean 105 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: they overcame stuff. Yeah, you know what I mean. I 106 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: think that's big come I hate this come back play 107 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: o the years. I hate this comeback Player of the Year. 108 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: So he's got Jeff akutas number three. What's he coming 109 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: back from from stinking? From stinking his first couple of Ye, 110 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: that's what's why it's a goofy Award. Two is Khalil 111 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Mack again coming back from stinking not being great? And 112 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: then one s quon Barkley. I guess I can't fight Barkley. Yeah, 113 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: he's coming bad from major injuries and he's daring it up. Okay, 114 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: let's skip over that war. You can find a bunch 115 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: of dudes that were hurt last year that are playing well. 116 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year now, I'm gonna say this 117 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: right now, if Miles Garrett is in the top three 118 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: in this list. Oh yeah, he should not should not be, 119 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: should not be. I know who I'd have one. I'd 120 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: have Parsons, I might have Boas would be in my 121 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: top three, but those would be the easy ones for legs, 122 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: all right. Three is Max Crosby. Their defense stinks. It's 123 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: not his fault, but their defense stinks. Yeah, they were 124 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: winless until the last one. Their defense blows. Yeah, I'm 125 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: ever a hard time count of candidates though. I mean, 126 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: I'd probably put Donald over him, but their defense things too. 127 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: Two is Makeing Fitzpatrick. Wow. Interesting, I didn't even dawn 128 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: on me. But if you're gonna say Minca, should you 129 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: say player. He's got half a more interception. I mean, 130 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a pick six. He also he also 131 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: blocked an extra points that stands up as well. It 132 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: was kind of a big deal. Yeah, I don't think 133 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: people avoid Player like they do make it either. No, 134 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: I don't think either. Uh. Number one, he is Bosa, 135 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: but yeah, he has a Parsons and Parsons. I've definitely 136 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: have Parsons over well. I would definitely have him over Crosby. 137 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: He was he would have been my one. I can't 138 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: fight John Bosa. What about Nick by the way? Not 139 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Joe's out? Um, fair enough. I mean he's leading league 140 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: in sacks and they're probably the best defense in the league. Yeah, 141 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's a pretty combination, pretty good combination. Yeah, 142 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: he's been pretty dominant Offensive Player of the Year. See, 143 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: I think this award should not be allowed to go 144 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: to a quarterback. I don't disagree unless well, I mean, 145 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: you know a couple of these running quarterbacks that are 146 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: just you know, you're you're gonna have a combined six 147 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: thousand yards or whatever. Maybe you're not the m v 148 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: P of your you know, the league like Hurts. Yeah, right, 149 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: I think I'd give this the cup though, if I'm 150 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: avoiding quarterbacks. I mean, there's offense stinks, but what he's 151 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: doing is ridiculous. He catches like fourteen balls. Again, Chubb 152 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: is pretty good, Bark, so you can make a strong 153 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: case as well. Kelsey, Kelsey, they don't win that. He's 154 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: been pretty dominant. Um, is there any other receivers fighting Cup? 155 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Diggs is pretty good, Tyreek is pretty good. 156 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: I think if it's a receiver, it has to be Cup. Yeah, 157 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: he's the whole offense. He's there, and I mean they 158 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: don't even throw to anybody else except for so He's 159 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: Chubb is number three. Fine, he's awesome. I mean he's there, 160 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: He's their whole offense. Basically. Yeah, he's the best one. 161 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: I mean he's the best ball carry a going right 162 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: now at two years Stefon Diggs Okay brings back to 163 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: he is the thing to be scared of. And you 164 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: know on Saturday one he is Tyreek Hill. He is 165 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: the most fasting art receiving Original League. Um. He has 166 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: changed Miami without questions. Gonna have another hundred fifty catches 167 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: this year, maybe more. I mean catches four game or 168 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: twelve a game. I mean, no matter what are going 169 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: to it's amazing. Snuck up on anybody. He was. He 170 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: was the triple crown winner last year. I would have 171 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: couped one over those guys. Barkley is definitely the conversation. 172 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: He should be in the conversation. M v P Mahomes. 173 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm throwing out names, Mahomes, Alan Hurts, Hurts. I feel 174 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: like those three teams stand alone in terms of accomplishments. 175 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: This year as has been pretty good. I mean, I'm 176 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: sure we've brought this up this week, But I very 177 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: much believe Baltimore and Buffalo ask more of their quarterback 178 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: position than anyone else in the league. You know, the 179 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: numbers reflected, you know, they're combined rushing and receiving yardage 180 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: or like of the offense. You know, I mean, no 181 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: one's leaning on, No one's asking their quarterbacks with superheroes 182 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: more than Lamar and Alan. Yeah, I agree, I probably 183 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: vote though at three he has Lamar, that's fine. Yeah, 184 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: at two, Josh Allen, okay, at one, Patrick Mahomes Hurts 185 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: gets a little bit than short end to stick there. 186 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: I think he'd be fourth for me, behind those three. Um, 187 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: and I'm trying not to have any preconceived notions of 188 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: what I thought of them coming into the year, because 189 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: that's not fair when we're talking about four games here. 190 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's as good to pass for as 191 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, he's not, and he's not especially the 192 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: top two. Um, but he's been great. Yeah, that's there. 193 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: That's the Bill Barnwell Awards at this point of the year. Um. Again, 194 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: we're just four four games into this thing, yeah, right, right, right, 195 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: It's a lot of football left to be played. But yeah, 196 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: I think you know, this is the task the Steelers 197 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: face this week, is slowing down a guy who's two 198 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: names are on that list. Yeah. Actually Payler could have been. 199 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: So you're dealing with, you know, top guys at their 200 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: respective positions, game changers. I don't know how to bundle 201 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: up Alan. I mean, he's really one of those guys 202 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: you hope to contain them. I mean, right, I think 203 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: you can't let him go nuts. You can't let him 204 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, you can't let him have three hundred passing 205 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: yards and a hundred on the ground. Um. You know 206 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: if you could get the four combined, yah, you know right, 207 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: he can wreck your day quickly. Um. I was on 208 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: a Steelers video today with Dave Damnishek and he brought 209 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: up a point I sort of thought about before. But 210 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: Steelers have a pretty good history. We always talked about 211 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: this Ravens week, and I remember when Cam Newton came 212 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: here on Thursday night of really going out of their 213 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: way to hit the quarterback. Yeah, I mean any kind 214 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: of option or maybe half a second pass at the 215 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: time he gets through the football out of his hands. 216 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: And sure he's a big, strong guy, but I do 217 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: think being physical with him is your best bat Yeah, 218 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean I think that's what you know. You have 219 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: to do that with every quarterback. Do you always want 220 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: to let that guy know he's playing football. You can't 221 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: just let it if it's a pocket passer, you know, 222 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: you can't let him sit stand back here and pat 223 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: the pat the football. For a guy like Alan, I 224 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: don't know if you necessarily want him running the football, 225 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: but you want to create the idea in his head 226 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: that he has to run the ball at times and 227 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: then and then you'd like to convince the coaching staff that, hey, 228 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: we don't we need Josh to have less kids because 229 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: one thing about this offense. I mean, again it's a great, 230 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: great offensive, but it's digs and Allen. I mean, they 231 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: really don't run the ball all that well in a 232 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: traditional way, hand the ball to the running back and 233 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: run zone or power or whatever. It's really a non 234 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: existent running game. And Singletary is now contributing a lot 235 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: more as the receiver because there are other receivers aren't 236 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: happened up like we mentioned. So if you could make 237 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: him be the running game and be you know, Mackenzie, 238 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: uh Davis, all those guys, if he gets hit twenty 239 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: times in this game. Yeah, right, right right, I mean 240 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: it might pay off late in the game, right, he 241 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: makes a decision he wouldn't have for whatever. You know, 242 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he's human too. Sometimes hard to believe that, 243 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: but uh, the Steelers have not been at least a 244 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: fourteen point underdog in a game since nineteen sixty nine, 245 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: only in the league, the only team since the seventy 246 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: a f L NFL merger that's never been at least 247 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: a fourteen point underdog. Their largest underdog role since since 248 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: the merger it was thirteen and a half points against 249 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Dallas in the Super Bowl, uh in Yeah, which they 250 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: lost by ten and probably should have won that game. 251 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: It was there. I was young and a fan at 252 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: that point, and I very much to believe, and I 253 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: was watching it through black and gold covered glasses. But 254 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: if that goes one more quarter, I think the Steelers 255 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: win or even maybe two more series if they don't 256 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: give up a you know, yeah, they were they they 257 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: played they were the better team in the second half, shure. Yeah, 258 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: they were playing their style football and the turnovers destroyed them. 259 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: That That was not the normal Dallas of the nineties 260 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: team either. Yeah. Um, gets an amazing testament to the team. Yeah, 261 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: hasn't been one week against a great when some of 262 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: that's you know, the they set the lines in these games, 263 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: get money on both sides, you know. So the Steelers, right, yeah, 264 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: people bet the Steelers. Yeah, Steeler fans bet. But here 265 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: here's what since So since Mike Tollin was hired in 266 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, the Steelers are forty four five 267 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: and three against the spread as an underdog a dog. 268 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: That's the second best mark in the league in that 269 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: time period. I mean, it's a very high percentage of winds. 270 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean NFL wins. We're talking about Vegas their 271 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: thirty seven thirty five though, straight up in those games 272 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't surprise me. That's the one that matters. Like, Okay, 273 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: so you're an underdog seventy two times, some quick up 274 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: j Matt there seventy two times and you won more 275 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: than fifty of them. That's bonkers. And what we well, 276 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: all we know is they have all been under fourteen 277 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: points spreads. But I'm sure there's many of them that 278 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: are over a touchdown. Um, of course, there's ones that 279 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: are one or one and a half or whatever. But still. 280 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that dogs win. I don't know, 281 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: I have no idea about this, but what percentage of 282 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: dogs win over the course of a year. It's less. 283 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: Bet it's forty or thirty, you know, I mean, I 284 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: bet it's way down there. Tomlin, way above that that line. Yeah. 285 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: Tomlin also is eleven and two against the spread, seven 286 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: and six straight up as an underdog of at least 287 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: three and a half points or more when Ben Roethlisberger 288 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: is not his quarterback. That's pretty specific. But there's also unfortunately, 289 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a body of work there. I mean, 290 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: there was a whole season recently, you know, I'm sure 291 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: they were dog plenty with Duck. You know, he is 292 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: seven and one against the spread. Without Roethlisberger, as at 293 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: least a six point underdog, finds ways to hang around, 294 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: finds ways to again muddy it up, knuck it up 295 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: in there, make the you know, make the game ugly. 296 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: I think some of that's part of the quarterback change, too, 297 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: is I think Tomlin has a better field. I can 298 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: coach the way I want with this guys. Opposed to Trabinsky. 299 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna, I think put the accelerator down 300 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: he will. Here's I think the difference. I think we 301 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: saw Trabinsky make more of the wild throws, like even 302 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: the throat in the back of the end zone to 303 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: Deonte Johnson was a great throw, and Steeler throws pretty impressive. 304 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: If it's if if Deante Johnson's toe is a half 305 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: an inch shorter, Mitch Drabinsky is probably still the quarterback 306 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: of the Steelers this week because that's a touchdown. There 307 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: was a beautiful throw. What what I think Pickett will 308 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: do is make more of the layups. I think he'll 309 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: take more with his yes, and that includes as a runner. Yes, 310 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, like if you're gonna all turn your back 311 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: to me a man coverage, I'm gonna scamper for eight slot. 312 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: He's a more accurate quarterback, and he's a more accurate guy. 313 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: I think he's more willing to take shots. He's more accurate. 314 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: He's less experienced, but there's only one way to remedy that, 315 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, and so I think that allows Tomlin more 316 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: clubs in his bag. As a coach, I think, yeah, 317 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: we really gotta get the driver out on this one, 318 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: or just use the wedge, you know, where it's third 319 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: and four. We gotta get this first down. We can't 320 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: afford a you know, an arrant throw. We're through Bisky's 321 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: legs weren't exactly you know, you get his feet right 322 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: or something like that. Like, I think they have a 323 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: more confidence to pick it, will do those things, the 324 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: little things. I mean. I was listening to Michael Lombardi 325 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: on the way here, and an interesting point that no 326 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: one ever thinks about. He's like, the Steelers have had 327 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: nothing from the quarterback sneak game for a long time. 328 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: Now they're sneaking like crazy, three times three rushing touchdowns 329 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: the last two games. You know how valuable that is. 330 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: I mean, third didn't want It's not valuable from nausea, 331 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: Harris owners and fantasy. There's there's some downsides in that way. 332 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, just to have a guy that, okay, 333 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: third one here, fall behind the guard, get in there. 334 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean not that Trabisky couldn't do that, but that's 335 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: one more thing that this offense can do that has 336 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: been lacking. And Brady's made a living on it. Well, 337 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: he's been good at other things too, but I mean, 338 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: just one one more thing to add to the offense. Yeah, 339 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: and I think you know you mentioned this yesterday when Monday, 340 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: whatever day it was, when we were talking about the 341 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: the the offensive line play um and it's been above 342 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: the line. I mean, they're not allowing a lot of pressures. 343 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: I think the run blocking is coming along. Um. Their 344 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: past rush for Buffalo certainly frightens me, but I don't 345 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's really shortsighted and I could 346 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: see why people do it all. The line is not 347 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: good enough to do that stuff. Line is good enough 348 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: to do everyth you want. I still see the narrative 349 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: out there that, well, the Steelers line stinks. Yeah, we'll 350 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: see that on on on social media all the time, folks. 351 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: You know, like I don't know about that. There was 352 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: Bart Scott put it out there today this morning on 353 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: on ESPN or whatever whatever show he was on, that 354 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: the Steelers screwed up by taking Kenny Pickett. They should 355 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: have taken an offensive lineman. Give me, first of all, 356 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: give me a name, coation, give me a name. And secondly, 357 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: he's a starting quarterback right there, starting quarterback maybe for 358 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: the next dozen years. How could that be a bad pick. 359 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: He doesn't think Picket has star quality because he said, 360 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: he said, you don't get you don't get the twenty, 361 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 1: you don't get the star, a star quality quarterback at twenty. Well, 362 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers would like a word about that. Yeah, alright, 363 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady might like a word about that. Yes, these 364 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: guys were all available later in drafts just because there's 365 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: a lot of Hall of Famers that are not. So 366 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: I think that that narrative is is false. Um, you know, 367 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: if Kenny Pickett comes out in plays, well, god bless him. 368 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: If he doesn't, Um, it doesn't mean he's you know, 369 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: he's he's shot for his career. Um. You know that 370 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: this there's going to be a learning curve here. I 371 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: think the expectations being put on him right now by 372 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: Steeler fans might be, uh, you might want to tamper 373 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: down just a little bit, like he is not going 374 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: to come riding in on the white horse here and 375 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: lead his team to the playoffs or anything like that. 376 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: He could be part of the equation. Yeah, you know again, 377 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: I think these next four games are gonna be ugly. 378 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: I mean in terms of mistakes and hits and you know, 379 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: learning process, and they may still win one. I'm not 380 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: saying that called me back in a month, but some 381 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: of that's because, man, I think, you know, because of 382 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: the things that Tomlin has done here thus far, winning 383 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: with Duck Hodges. You know, you got to you got 384 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: to you go out to Los Angeles and play a 385 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: Chargers team. They were a massive underdog in that game 386 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: with with Devlin Hodges at quarterback, and they found a 387 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: way to win the game against Philip Rivers. I mean, 388 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: no one thought they're beating Buffalo and Buffalo and week 389 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: one last, right, that's pretty recently, um, you know, and 390 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: and you know, Steeler fans saw Ben Roethlisberger's rookie hearing it. Well, 391 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: this is just what happens. You don't lose that, you 392 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: just you make the change, the rookie quarterback comes up, 393 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: everything's great. Yeah, that probably won't be the case. I 394 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: do think there's a very good chance he outplays Drabinsky, yes, 395 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, and so that in itself is worth it. 396 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: And I'm hey, you and I were both on board 397 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: with the Drabinsky signing. And I don't think it's a failure. 398 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: And I don't think it was either. I think I think, 399 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, again, it's they make a play here or there, 400 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: and we're having a different conversation right now, right again, 401 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: their minus thirteen point differential. I mean one of those 402 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: is that he didn't muff a punt against the Patriots. 403 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: You know, things and things like that that cost him 404 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: his job. That weren't his fault. I mean, I don't 405 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: think he elevated those around him, like the top quarterbacks 406 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: on them, But I didn't expect that either. Though. We 407 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: did not expect that. I don't think that's a failed 408 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: experiment by any stretch. He might be the backup here 409 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: next year, or maybe they trade him for fourth round 410 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: pick somewhere or whatever. He still with value. And do 411 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: we know Kenny's gonna stay healthy for the next you know, 412 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: that's the other side of it's having a valuable quarterbacks important, yes, 413 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: but to expect No, he's in the grand scheme of things. 414 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: He's not making a ton of money. But I just 415 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: think that, you know, Tampa, the expectations a little bit. 416 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: I know, some of these things do set up well 417 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: because of you know that the team around him, Tomlin's coaching, 418 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 1: all that stuff is great. These next four games are 419 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: going to be a gauntlet. If they win one of 420 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: these games, that's a success. I mean, I just hope 421 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: they're highly competitive and Kenny looks apart, right. I mean, 422 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: that's really what I'm looking for on the next month 423 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: and post By and I I think my tune is 424 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: gonna change, but we'll see what happens in these first four. 425 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely I agree with that one. We got to take 426 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: another break. Um. You can subscribe now to The Drive 427 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: on the on the Steelers Nation Radio. Every episode we 428 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: do is available for you to download. Subscribe today through 429 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers Mobile app, the radio app, and wherever you 430 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: find your podcast. 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