WEBVTT - Girls Talk, 'Boys Talk: Upwards Motion 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:07.400 The following he is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:09.520 Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:12.680 Cowboys. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:19.640 This is Girls Talkboys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating, preferred 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:24.480 dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live from 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:29.360 Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:36.120 Christy Scales, Aisha Morrison, Nicole Hutchison, and jess Navarrees. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:42.840 Cowboys Nation, Welcome to another episode of Girls Talk Boys Talk, 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.919 presented by Jigsaw, the preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.200 We're coming to you live in Oxnard, California. Well, myself, 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.920 Nicole Hegison, and Christy Scales are. Then we've got the 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.920 lovely ladies in the studio, Aisha Warrison and Jazz Monet, 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:57.400 one of our newest members to the team. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:58.400 Jazz, how you doing? 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.800 I'm good. How are y'all hot? 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:02.600 Doing well? 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:04.520 Hot? 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:05.160 Is crazy? 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:05.680 Hot? 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:07.920 Sister? Isn't that hot out there? 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:09.480 First of all, it's disrespectful. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:11.040 It's one hundred ten degrees? 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.640 So yeah, my grandma, Oh, I know, I was talking 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.800 to somebody, tell about some we own the Devil's doorstep, 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:18.039 were not friends. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.920 I ain't trying to go see him I could definitely 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.840 do it. I'm surviving though, I'm surviving the terrible. 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:27.160 We love it, We love it. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.720 We'll just give us a little background. So Cowboys Nation, 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.000 can you know, get a chance to know you real quick. 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.760 Give us a background of you, where you come from 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:35.080 and things like that. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:35.720 Sure. 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.240 I recently moved to the area from Austin, Texas. I've 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.400 been hosting a sports theme podcast for a few years 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.440 and started covering the Cowboys heavily a couple of years ago, 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.440 around the same time I started writing for Inside the Star, 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:52.480 which is a cowboy centric blog. And now I'm here 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:55.560 anything else I should. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.560 Have ready to go? Ready to go? 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.000 All right, Well, well we can just go ahead and 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.120 hop into it, ladies. 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.040 Just a quick update, rule fast on the latest news 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.440 as Cowboys backup tackle or Old Bostik has been moved 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.600 to IR. We've got Carl Lawson that is officially signed 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:14.639 as of today on Supposedly he is expected to participate 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.800 in my game practice. We'll know more when we hear 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.280 from head coach Mike McCarthy in about an hour and 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:24.200 fifteen minutes. An update on Mazie I was told by 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.080 Jonathan Jackson, one of our members for the works for 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.480 the Cowboys team that he is doing a lot better. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.840 So it's good news finally because he did not get 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.200 a chance to play on Saturday against the Raiders. And 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.440 speaking of the Raiders game, we finally get a win 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.520 Cowboys twenty seven to twelve the final. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:43.760 And Christy, I'll start with you. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.519 We come away with no injuries and if you look 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.919 back at last year, that was certainly not the case. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.240 That's always the number one thing is the sideline reporter. 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.919 And I hope you all got to see Nicole make 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.640 her debut on the sideline this past Saturday night on 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.919 the Cowboys TV bride cast. So it was fun the 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.160 two of us down there together, me for radio and 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:07.840 Nicole there for TV. But at halftime, it's like, okay, Nicole, 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.080 we hadn't had any injuries in the first half, so 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.520 didn't want to jinx anything. But that's the number one 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.480 thing coming out of any preseason game. But we had 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:20.680 had enough injuries in practice, right with Earl Boston going down, 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.920 but putting him on injured reserve opened the spot to 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.160 go ahead and sign Carl Lawson, who's the veteran free 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:33.400 agent defensive end. So they signed him or you agreed 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.960 to terms with him last week and now it's official. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.720 I think the important thing about signing Karl Lawson to 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.240 get an eight year veteran with all that experience and 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.480 all those skins on the wall, and basically against the cap, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.480 he's counting the same as a second year veteran. So 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.520 his one year deal is for one point two five 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:55.000 million dollars. So that is very low risk in terms 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.800 of financially but a potential high reward. But here's the 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.600 thing with the veteran. Accept that one point two five 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.600 million dollar base salary, it's only nine hundred and eighty 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.040 five thousand against the cap, So you're getting that kind 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.600 of guy in for less than a million bucks. He 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.520 does have incentives in his contracts, So if he gets 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.119 five sacks, that's going to be one hundred and twenty 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:18.520 five thousand dollars in incentives. If he gets seven sacks, 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:20.480 that's going to be another one hundred and twenty five 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.359 thousand dollars. If he plays in fifty five percent of 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.320 defensive snaps, another one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars, 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.520 plays in sixty five percent of the snaps, another one 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.760 hundred and twenty five were ups at five hundred. Now, 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.880 if he's playing all that and getting all these snaps, 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.400 and if the team makes the playoffs, another five hundred 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.200 thousand dollars, so up to a million dollars in bonus. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.279 So he can make up to two point two five 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.920 million dollars, but only all of that incentive that would 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.080 be paid next year. This year, all he's counting is 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.240 the nine hundred and eighty five, So Nicole's that's really 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.880 a bargain basement price for an experienced veteran for sure. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:58.000 And you mentioned the sacks, certainly something that this Cowboy's 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.640 defensive line needs, just getting pressure to a quarterback, especially 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:03.160 with the loss of Sam Williams. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:03.760 Will talk more. 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.640 About that in the second segment, but talk about this 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.480 running back room guys. We got a chance to see 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.760 pretty much all the rest of the running back room, 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.960 six guys who are fighting for a position in that 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.120 room on the depth chart. When you talk about Royce Connor, 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.719 Douce Fawn making an appearance for the first time in 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.160 about a week, I believe they missed practice. 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.280 But I'll start with you II show what did you. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.640 Like from that running back room? 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.279 And you know, do you feel like the Cowboys have 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.360 found answers in the run game so far. 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:37.000 And I know it's too early. Let me just go 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.920 ahead and still early. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.440 I know it's still the preseason, but just you know, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.880 go ahead, it's you're fine. 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:48.480 It's the disclaim listen. Disclaimers are welcome with the people 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.480 we be talking to so at this point. But no, 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.000 I don't know if they've gotten all the answers, but 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.120 they have gotten some. You know, we haven't gotten to 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:00.280 see Royce Freeman for a couple of weeks now. He 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:01.960 was dealing with it. Was it a hammy, y'all? 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:03.799 Was it a growin? Was a handy? 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:06.719 Maybe? 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.600 They just he is so many of them, So, yeah, 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.000 he was dealing with the growing injuries kind of had 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:12.400 him out. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:13.880 But you could tell from some of the things. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:17.120 They were doing with him on special teams and his 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.440 involvement kind of early in camp that they had a 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.279 plan for him and some of the things they wanted 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:25.039 to do with him. This is a big body, you know, 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.440 coming downhill running back. I think he can give you 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.600 some things and short yardist situations, also goal line things, 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.680 but he has a little bit of explosiveness to him 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.320 as well. So kind of getting to look at him 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.000 and some of the things he's able to do in 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.920 the open field. And then obviously Duce Vine. I think 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.360 this running back, this running back room right now is 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:47.919 lacking juice, and Duce Vaughn is such an interesting change 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.800 of pace, and he's a guy that defenses would have 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:51.640 to account for. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:52.560 I mean, we saw it. 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.800 Even even going back and watching the tape, you can 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.520 see some of these defenders just I think they were 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.279 surprised by the speed and the ability to stop on 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.680 a dime and cut and bounce to the outside. I mean, 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.839 to go from the middle of the offensive line and 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:07.880 bounce all the way outside. There's not a lot of 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.520 people who can do that and not have to decelerate. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:15.360 So seeing him play freely and really let his vision 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.840 take take over the game was impressive as well. So 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.880 I do think that they got some answers. They're probably 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:25.840 gonna want more answers, especially you know, with the cut 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.679 wire and stuff coming. But I will say, at least 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.040 we know and have some tangible film on these two 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.880 gentlemen to kind of go off of and evaluate this 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:34.680 running back room. 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.520 Yes, my answer is going to be almost exactly the 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.520 same that they do have some answers, but not all 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.680 the answers. I liked Rayce Freeman for a lot of 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.160 the same reasons, But I think for me, what I 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.360 really liked about Duce Vaughan because you know me, I'm 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.320 always like looking at on the field and off the field. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:55.040 I love an athlete that can admit and also pay 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:56.960 attention to what they need to work on, even when 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.360 they're getting a lot of praise. You know, Deuce last 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.440 preseason got a lot of praise and a lot of 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.800 adoration for the way that he was able to move 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:06.600 around and had a lot of agility on the field. 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:10.000 And so when I heard him acknowledge that he wanted 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.280 to work more on his power and that he wanted 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.040 to specifically work on his runs in between the tackles, 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.800 because that's something that not only did he need to 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.680 work on, but that's something that was a weakness of 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.560 the Cowboys running game the entire last season, you know, 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.880 So when I heard him say that, I was just like, Yes, 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:25.920 he's at least going into this with the right mentality. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:29.160 So I really appreciated him acknowledging that, and also what 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.240 he said about wanting to show off his past protection 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.240 of the ability like that to me makes me really 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.720 excited about what we can expect from Dusbon in the future. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.920 So I was happy to see him, happy to hear 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.760 from him. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.840 Christy, Yeah, that the power is what surprised me because 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.880 last year, in the very limited playing time that he 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.080 got in the regular season, he averaged just barely over 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.040 one and a half yards at carries, so it was 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:58.280 pretty bleak and he was down at the point of contact. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.720 He wasn't getting like yards after contact or moving, you know, 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.360 making that push and getting forward. But man, slashing and 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:09.040 showing some power on Saturday night. So I was thrilled 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.640 to see that. And Jazz, I think you nailed it 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.880 when you said, Deuce talking about the pass protection in 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.360 the post game so important, and I think they're really 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.200 going to give him a chance to show that off 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.400 on Saturday. We didn't really get to see him work 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.480 too much that Saturday night, but you're right, he realizes 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.320 exactly what he needed to do in the off season 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.680 in terms of just a little more strength so he 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.240 could have that power and get the yards after contact, 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.199 and knows that he has to do the pass protection. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.760 But the one thing that we were told in the 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:44.800 off season, is the implementation of Deuce Vaughan in the 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.400 passing game and maybe putting him out wide because we've 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.960 talked about on the podcast where you want him in 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.599 space right, Well, you're not going to see that in 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:56.720 preseason because Mike McCarthy and Brian Schottenheimer don't want to 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:01.200 give anything away to a post and defenses is once 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.480 we get into the regular season. So I'm not looking 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.360 for that in this final regular season game. But yeah, 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.600 I thought that of the top two or three people 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.440 making great progress in Week two, Duce was one of 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:14.640 those two or three for me. 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.440 Duce Vaughn five carries for thirty four yards average six 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.000 point eight yards per carrie. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:21.439 I don't know, maybe that's good. 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.520 I think that's awesome. That's awesome. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.480 I don't know that's awesome. Are you getting that? 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.839 That's global material you do that elect But it's also 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:33.800 the distribution of snaps. So Duce got sixteen snaps, Royce 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.520 Freeman got fifteen snaps. Snoop Connor, we finally got to 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.000 see him a little bit eleven snaps. Elie Davis started 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.360 the game and hit. He only had fourteen yards on 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:47.680 his five carries. But he was the starter. And then 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.719 in the second half it was a Pete that the 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.280 rookie from Missouri that got the work. But it was 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.960 great that as you're trying to answer these questions about 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.400 the running back room, that each of them got that 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.880 much work. And then again I think it's Nicole mentioned 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.640 Rico Dawdle was sitting, so he and Zeke coach's decisions 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.040 not to play. So a great work for those young guys. 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:08.320 Guys. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.840 I got another question, which of those guys made a 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.600 better case in solidifying their spot as we head closer 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:15.680 to roster cut downs. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:17.160 Jazz, I'll start with you. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.559 Oh no, oh, no, it's crazy. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.400 No, I say, I'll know because that's a really tough 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.520 question to answer. I feel like they both brought different 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.480 things to the table that would be considered useful for 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.000 the Cowboys. I man, I'm gonna just say I'm glad 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.000 that I don't have to make that decision in real life, 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.760 because that's a tough one. In all honesty, I don't 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.880 have an answer, like my heart wants to say, Duz, 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.600 but I'm just like, but like, I don't know, ways 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.680 has so many useful abilities. 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.760 Yes, I can't well real frash. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.720 Well, then how about this one who's a guy who's 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.520 you know, you maybe had high hopes of for coming 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.640 into that Raiders game, but then you kind of saw 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.120 their stock go down after their performance against the Raiders. 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:03.360 Maybe that's a better one. 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.160 You want me to say, who stock went down? 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:05.600 Oh? 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:11.760 Man? And like for runners, running backs running yep, just 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:17.040 running backs mm hmm. I mean, honestly, it's not fair, 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.680 but it's like anybody who we're not talking about right now, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.400 I would say their stock kind of went down because 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.040 it's I think it's one of those situations where you 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.319 see a couple of guys getting over four yards per 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.080 carry and so it's like the spotlight is on them. 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.600 So while you know three point however many yards per carry, 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.840 it's also very good, it can kind of feel kind 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.320 of average whenever you've got a couple of other guys 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.280 who are bringing so much more to the table, and 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.160 I know, it's just it's one game and that's it. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.079 That's the tough thing about it. It's like, Okay, can 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.760 we expect this to be consistent? Like is this something 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.560 that we should expect to see game in and game 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.840 out from these guys or is it possible that you 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.760 end up making a decision based off a limited sample size. 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.559 But I would say anybody who wasn't in a headline 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.600 this morning, their stock kind of went out. Not saying 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.160 that they don't deserve a spot. I'm just saying, like 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.680 there are some guys who aren't being talked about as 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:05.240 much today. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:15.800 Asia, I ain't sorry to trust you around no. 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.960 I just if you're one of those running backs that 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.440 was out there today, well on Saturday, does a lot 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.360 of things like the one that you have on the 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.960 roster right now that wasn't suiting up, So you know, 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.679 if you. 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.240 Want to, you know, decide who you want to keep. 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.320 You know, that guy that was on the field, that 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.560 was running with some power and some pop and stuff. 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.040 You know, some decisions to be. 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:42.880 Made in that way. 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:46.080 I'm not saying that, you know, someone stock went down. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.839 I'm just saying that you see similarities and similarities in 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.560 a player that wears number fifteen and then the player 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.720 that rhymes with Freeman and that the you know, so 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:02.280 decisions and as far as you's fine, there's not. There's 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.560 not that many people. I don't think there's anybody in 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.920 the running back room that does what Deuce can do, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.080 so I don't really find him comparable to anything else, 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.800 and especially since he can, they've talked about doing some 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:14.960 things in the receiving games. So I don't know about 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.080 nobody's stop going down, but I mean know we it's 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.280 the Spider Man pointing meme at this point with some 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:21.560 of these guys, So I'm just. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:23.320 Pick a side. 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.600 Yeah, yeah, no, no, I agree, it's not necessarily that 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.200 someone's stock went down yet, you know, but like if 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.920 Malik Davis is still here and the other guys like 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.240 Deuce and Royce, you know where they finally get a 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.360 chance to get some carries and they come up. So, 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.440 you know, I think the thing about it's good news 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.000 it makes about the running back room, it's that it's 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.000 making the decisions harder. And the other thing is, remember 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.840 the second thing. We hadn't even mentioned Hunter Lipkey, right 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:53.040 because they know exactly what they have. They don't need 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:58.880 to see him in preseason. But the thing that it's 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.520 hard to know how they did in coverage and blocking 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.920 on special teams. So we need to talk to bones 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.520 Fossil about that, because if you're the second, third, and 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.120 or fourth running back on the team, just like if 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.800 you're the fourth, fifth, sixth wide receiver or the second, third, 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:18.120 fourth tight end, you have to be a core contributor 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.640 on special teams. So that's where one of the differences 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.760 is going to lie. So I think we'll have a 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.000 better idea later this week after we get to talk 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.160 to coach Fossil and see how people did on special teams. 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.040 For example, the guy who's at the bottom of the 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:37.720 depth chart at tight end, Alec Holler, two awesome, awesome 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.480 plays in kickoff coverage down the field and just knock 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.720 the snot out of the returner. So Holler is a 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.000 guy that nobody's heard of, but when it comes to 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.800 special teams, it was so obvious that he really helped 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.440 himself and maybe helps secure a spot on the practice 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.360 squad after a really strong performance on a couple of 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:58.600 opportunities in kickoff coverage. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.320 Hey, Christy's talking about Alan Caller and knocking the snot 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:01.840 out of people. 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.800 How about this Cowboys offensive. 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.880 Line knocking the snot off the defensive line for the 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.800 Raiders commanding, come on, Jazzy, where is it? 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:11.720 Where is it? 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:12.640 That was pretty good? 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:14.840 Sang Yeah. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.840 They call him slobber knockers. Slobber knockers and football Bill Bates. 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.880 Longtime Cowboy fans will remember Bill Bates. He always loved 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.400 the slobber knockers on special teams. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:27.800 But no, I mean, let's talk about this o line. 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:28.120 Guys. 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.560 Cooper Beebe obviously starting at center, Tyler. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:35.560 Giden just absolutely playing phenomenal on Saturday. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.960 Uh. Do you guys feel. 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.720 That the Cowboys are in good hands with what this 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.920 offensive line put on tape on Saturday? And again, let 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.360 me put the disclaimer out there. I know it's the preseason, 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.040 but with what you saw out of our twos, if 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:52.400 we really or some of our ones, Tyler Giden, we're 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.160 all pretty satisfied with what they put on tape. And 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:56.160 I USh I'll start with you. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:00.800 Remember ask the Raiders starters they cause, I mean, you 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.640 d you disclaimed with always his preseason, but they decided 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.960 to play their starters. They were trying to They're trying 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.040 to make some really serious decisions on both sides of 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.640 the by both sides of the ball. So nah, I mean, 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.440 it's went back. You know, I went back and watched 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.800 the game twice and just the movement that some of 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.919 these guys are getting using combo and duo blocks and 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.639 working together and their communication and getting to the second 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.840 level and really like walling off. 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:25.919 Like there was even one. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.800 Play where it was Brevin Spamford and it was Brevin 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.000 span Ford, Tyler Geydon and Cooper Bebe and. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.159 You literally see the it l They look like a unit. 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.200 Just one like a wall together moving uh guys out 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:39.560 the way. 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.600 And you know, we talked about We've talked about it 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:42.439 on this show number a. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.520 Number of times, is the fact that the run game 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:48.439 for this team is intricate to their success and not 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:50.600 only stopping the run, but being able to run the ball, 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.760 being able to control the clock when you get into 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.000 the playoffs, when it's when it's cold, being able to 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.280 do those things, it's gonna open up your offense. So 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.000 seeing these two gentlemen, these two young rookies come in 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:03.919 and them starting to really shape into form, and you 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.520 can see we got a very we we lucked up 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:07.000 a little bit. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:08.800 We got a really real look at. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:14.320 Them against starters on another NFL team, and they succeeded. 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.560 They had success eorally in that game running the ball, 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.280 and that's why we were able to see a deuce 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:20.320 do some things that's why we were able to see 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.760 a Royce Freeman do some things and Milik Davis, so 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.520 a lot of credit to them. And I guess we're 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.480 gonna run the ball down people throw this year, y'all. 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:28.400 I'm for it. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.720 I would love that. And everything that you just said 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.760 is even more exciting when you think about the fact 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.959 that not all the ones were even out there, Like 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.000 we like what we saw from Cooper BB and what 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.000 we saw from those guys working as a unit as 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:42.639 you described, but imagine what it's gonna look like when 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:44.480