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Speaker 1: Christy Scales, Aisha Morrison, Nicole Hutchison, and jess Navarrees.
Speaker 3: Cowboys Nation, Welcome to another episode of Girls Talk Boys Talk,
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Speaker 3: We're coming to you live in Oxnard, California. Well, myself,
Speaker 3: Nicole Hegison, and Christy Scales are. Then we've got the
Speaker 3: lovely ladies in the studio, Aisha Warrison and Jazz Monet,
Speaker 3: one of our newest members to the team.
Speaker 4: Jazz, how you doing?
Speaker 5: I'm good. How are y'all hot?
Speaker 4: Doing well?
Speaker 6: Hot?
Speaker 4: Is crazy?
Speaker 7: Hot?
Speaker 4: Sister? Isn't that hot out there?
Speaker 8: First of all, it's disrespectful.
Speaker 5: It's one hundred ten degrees?
Speaker 9: So yeah, my grandma, Oh, I know, I was talking
Speaker 9: to somebody, tell about some we own the Devil's doorstep,
Speaker 9: were not friends.
Speaker 5: I ain't trying to go see him I could definitely
Speaker 5: do it. I'm surviving though, I'm surviving the terrible.
Speaker 4: We love it, We love it.
Speaker 3: We'll just give us a little background. So Cowboys Nation,
Speaker 3: can you know, get a chance to know you real quick.
Speaker 4: Give us a background of you, where you come from
Speaker 4: and things like that.
Speaker 9: Sure.
Speaker 5: I recently moved to the area from Austin, Texas. I've
Speaker 5: been hosting a sports theme podcast for a few years
Speaker 5: and started covering the Cowboys heavily a couple of years ago,
Speaker 5: around the same time I started writing for Inside the Star,
Speaker 5: which is a cowboy centric blog. And now I'm here
Speaker 5: anything else I should.
Speaker 4: Have ready to go? Ready to go?
Speaker 10: All right, Well, well we can just go ahead and
Speaker 10: hop into it, ladies.
Speaker 3: Just a quick update, rule fast on the latest news
Speaker 3: as Cowboys backup tackle or Old Bostik has been moved
Speaker 3: to IR. We've got Carl Lawson that is officially signed
Speaker 3: as of today on Supposedly he is expected to participate
Speaker 3: in my game practice. We'll know more when we hear
Speaker 3: from head coach Mike McCarthy in about an hour and
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes. An update on Mazie I was told by
Speaker 3: Jonathan Jackson, one of our members for the works for
Speaker 3: the Cowboys team that he is doing a lot better.
Speaker 3: So it's good news finally because he did not get
Speaker 3: a chance to play on Saturday against the Raiders. And
Speaker 3: speaking of the Raiders game, we finally get a win
Speaker 3: Cowboys twenty seven to twelve the final.
Speaker 4: And Christy, I'll start with you.
Speaker 3: We come away with no injuries and if you look
Speaker 3: back at last year, that was certainly not the case.
Speaker 6: That's always the number one thing is the sideline reporter.
Speaker 6: And I hope you all got to see Nicole make
Speaker 6: her debut on the sideline this past Saturday night on
Speaker 6: the Cowboys TV bride cast. So it was fun the
Speaker 6: two of us down there together, me for radio and
Speaker 6: Nicole there for TV. But at halftime, it's like, okay, Nicole,
Speaker 6: we hadn't had any injuries in the first half, so
Speaker 6: didn't want to jinx anything. But that's the number one
Speaker 6: thing coming out of any preseason game. But we had
Speaker 6: had enough injuries in practice, right with Earl Boston going down,
Speaker 6: but putting him on injured reserve opened the spot to
Speaker 6: go ahead and sign Carl Lawson, who's the veteran free
Speaker 6: agent defensive end. So they signed him or you agreed
Speaker 6: to terms with him last week and now it's official.
Speaker 6: I think the important thing about signing Karl Lawson to
Speaker 6: get an eight year veteran with all that experience and
Speaker 6: all those skins on the wall, and basically against the cap,
Speaker 6: he's counting the same as a second year veteran. So
Speaker 6: his one year deal is for one point two five
Speaker 6: million dollars. So that is very low risk in terms
Speaker 6: of financially but a potential high reward. But here's the
Speaker 6: thing with the veteran. Accept that one point two five
Speaker 6: million dollar base salary, it's only nine hundred and eighty
Speaker 6: five thousand against the cap, So you're getting that kind
Speaker 6: of guy in for less than a million bucks. He
Speaker 6: does have incentives in his contracts, So if he gets
Speaker 6: five sacks, that's going to be one hundred and twenty
Speaker 6: five thousand dollars in incentives. If he gets seven sacks,
Speaker 6: that's going to be another one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 6: thousand dollars. If he plays in fifty five percent of
Speaker 6: defensive snaps, another one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars,
Speaker 6: plays in sixty five percent of the snaps, another one
Speaker 6: hundred and twenty five were ups at five hundred. Now,
Speaker 6: if he's playing all that and getting all these snaps,
Speaker 6: and if the team makes the playoffs, another five hundred
Speaker 6: thousand dollars, so up to a million dollars in bonus.
Speaker 6: So he can make up to two point two five
Speaker 6: million dollars, but only all of that incentive that would
Speaker 6: be paid next year. This year, all he's counting is
Speaker 6: the nine hundred and eighty five, So Nicole's that's really
Speaker 6: a bargain basement price for an experienced veteran for sure.
Speaker 3: And you mentioned the sacks, certainly something that this Cowboy's
Speaker 3: defensive line needs, just getting pressure to a quarterback, especially
Speaker 3: with the loss of Sam Williams.
Speaker 6: Will talk more.
Speaker 3: About that in the second segment, but talk about this
Speaker 3: running back room guys. We got a chance to see
Speaker 3: pretty much all the rest of the running back room,
Speaker 3: six guys who are fighting for a position in that
Speaker 3: room on the depth chart. When you talk about Royce Connor,
Speaker 3: Douce Fawn making an appearance for the first time in
Speaker 3: about a week, I believe they missed practice.
Speaker 10: But I'll start with you II show what did you.
Speaker 4: Like from that running back room?
Speaker 3: And you know, do you feel like the Cowboys have
Speaker 3: found answers in the run game so far.
Speaker 4: And I know it's too early. Let me just go
Speaker 4: ahead and still early.
Speaker 3: I know it's still the preseason, but just you know,
Speaker 3: go ahead, it's you're fine.
Speaker 9: It's the disclaim listen. Disclaimers are welcome with the people
Speaker 9: we be talking to so at this point. But no,
Speaker 9: I don't know if they've gotten all the answers, but
Speaker 9: they have gotten some. You know, we haven't gotten to
Speaker 9: see Royce Freeman for a couple of weeks now. He
Speaker 9: was dealing with it. Was it a hammy, y'all?
Speaker 8: Was it a growin? Was a handy?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 9: They just he is so many of them, So, yeah,
Speaker 9: he was dealing with the growing injuries kind of had
Speaker 9: him out.
Speaker 8: But you could tell from some of the things.
Speaker 9: They were doing with him on special teams and his
Speaker 9: involvement kind of early in camp that they had a
Speaker 9: plan for him and some of the things they wanted
Speaker 9: to do with him. This is a big body, you know,
Speaker 9: coming downhill running back. I think he can give you
Speaker 9: some things and short yardist situations, also goal line things,
Speaker 9: but he has a little bit of explosiveness to him
Speaker 9: as well. So kind of getting to look at him
Speaker 9: and some of the things he's able to do in
Speaker 9: the open field. And then obviously Duce Vine. I think
Speaker 9: this running back, this running back room right now is
Speaker 9: lacking juice, and Duce Vaughn is such an interesting change
Speaker 9: of pace, and he's a guy that defenses would have
Speaker 9: to account for.
Speaker 8: I mean, we saw it.
Speaker 9: Even even going back and watching the tape, you can
Speaker 9: see some of these defenders just I think they were
Speaker 9: surprised by the speed and the ability to stop on
Speaker 9: a dime and cut and bounce to the outside. I mean,
Speaker 9: to go from the middle of the offensive line and
Speaker 9: bounce all the way outside. There's not a lot of
Speaker 9: people who can do that and not have to decelerate.
Speaker 9: So seeing him play freely and really let his vision
Speaker 9: take take over the game was impressive as well. So
Speaker 9: I do think that they got some answers. They're probably
Speaker 9: gonna want more answers, especially you know, with the cut
Speaker 9: wire and stuff coming. But I will say, at least
Speaker 9: we know and have some tangible film on these two
Speaker 9: gentlemen to kind of go off of and evaluate this
Speaker 9: running back room.
Speaker 5: Yes, my answer is going to be almost exactly the
Speaker 5: same that they do have some answers, but not all
Speaker 5: the answers. I liked Rayce Freeman for a lot of
Speaker 5: the same reasons, But I think for me, what I
Speaker 5: really liked about Duce Vaughan because you know me, I'm
Speaker 5: always like looking at on the field and off the field.
Speaker 5: I love an athlete that can admit and also pay
Speaker 5: attention to what they need to work on, even when
Speaker 5: they're getting a lot of praise. You know, Deuce last
Speaker 5: preseason got a lot of praise and a lot of
Speaker 5: adoration for the way that he was able to move
Speaker 5: around and had a lot of agility on the field.
Speaker 5: And so when I heard him acknowledge that he wanted
Speaker 5: to work more on his power and that he wanted
Speaker 5: to specifically work on his runs in between the tackles,
Speaker 5: because that's something that not only did he need to
Speaker 5: work on, but that's something that was a weakness of
Speaker 5: the Cowboys running game the entire last season, you know,
Speaker 5: So when I heard him say that, I was just like, Yes,
Speaker 5: he's at least going into this with the right mentality.
Speaker 5: So I really appreciated him acknowledging that, and also what
Speaker 5: he said about wanting to show off his past protection
Speaker 5: of the ability like that to me makes me really
Speaker 5: excited about what we can expect from Dusbon in the future.
Speaker 5: So I was happy to see him, happy to hear
Speaker 5: from him.
Speaker 6: Christy, Yeah, that the power is what surprised me because
Speaker 6: last year, in the very limited playing time that he
Speaker 6: got in the regular season, he averaged just barely over
Speaker 6: one and a half yards at carries, so it was
Speaker 6: pretty bleak and he was down at the point of contact.
Speaker 6: He wasn't getting like yards after contact or moving, you know,
Speaker 6: making that push and getting forward. But man, slashing and
Speaker 6: showing some power on Saturday night. So I was thrilled
Speaker 6: to see that. And Jazz, I think you nailed it
Speaker 6: when you said, Deuce talking about the pass protection in
Speaker 6: the post game so important, and I think they're really
Speaker 6: going to give him a chance to show that off
Speaker 6: on Saturday. We didn't really get to see him work
Speaker 6: too much that Saturday night, but you're right, he realizes
Speaker 6: exactly what he needed to do in the off season
Speaker 6: in terms of just a little more strength so he
Speaker 6: could have that power and get the yards after contact,
Speaker 6: and knows that he has to do the pass protection.
Speaker 6: But the one thing that we were told in the
Speaker 6: off season, is the implementation of Deuce Vaughan in the
Speaker 6: passing game and maybe putting him out wide because we've
Speaker 6: talked about on the podcast where you want him in
Speaker 6: space right, Well, you're not going to see that in
Speaker 6: preseason because Mike McCarthy and Brian Schottenheimer don't want to
Speaker 6: give anything away to a post and defenses is once
Speaker 6: we get into the regular season. So I'm not looking
Speaker 6: for that in this final regular season game. But yeah,
Speaker 6: I thought that of the top two or three people
Speaker 6: making great progress in Week two, Duce was one of
Speaker 6: those two or three for me.
Speaker 3: Duce Vaughn five carries for thirty four yards average six
Speaker 3: point eight yards per carrie.
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe that's good.
Speaker 6: I think that's awesome. That's awesome.
Speaker 4: I don't know that's awesome. Are you getting that?
Speaker 6: That's global material you do that elect But it's also
Speaker 6: the distribution of snaps. So Duce got sixteen snaps, Royce
Speaker 6: Freeman got fifteen snaps. Snoop Connor, we finally got to
Speaker 6: see him a little bit eleven snaps. Elie Davis started
Speaker 6: the game and hit. He only had fourteen yards on
Speaker 6: his five carries. But he was the starter. And then
Speaker 6: in the second half it was a Pete that the
Speaker 6: rookie from Missouri that got the work. But it was
Speaker 6: great that as you're trying to answer these questions about
Speaker 6: the running back room, that each of them got that
Speaker 6: much work. And then again I think it's Nicole mentioned
Speaker 6: Rico Dawdle was sitting, so he and Zeke coach's decisions
Speaker 6: not to play. So a great work for those young guys.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 3: I got another question, which of those guys made a
Speaker 3: better case in solidifying their spot as we head closer
Speaker 3: to roster cut downs.
Speaker 4: Jazz, I'll start with you.
Speaker 10: Oh no, oh, no, it's crazy.
Speaker 5: No, I say, I'll know because that's a really tough
Speaker 5: question to answer. I feel like they both brought different
Speaker 5: things to the table that would be considered useful for
Speaker 5: the Cowboys. I man, I'm gonna just say I'm glad
Speaker 5: that I don't have to make that decision in real life,
Speaker 5: because that's a tough one. In all honesty, I don't
Speaker 5: have an answer, like my heart wants to say, Duz,
Speaker 5: but I'm just like, but like, I don't know, ways
Speaker 5: has so many useful abilities.
Speaker 10: Yes, I can't well real frash.
Speaker 3: Well, then how about this one who's a guy who's
Speaker 3: you know, you maybe had high hopes of for coming
Speaker 3: into that Raiders game, but then you kind of saw
Speaker 3: their stock go down after their performance against the Raiders.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's a better one.
Speaker 5: You want me to say, who stock went down?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 5: Man? And like for runners, running backs running yep, just
Speaker 5: running backs mm hmm. I mean, honestly, it's not fair,
Speaker 5: but it's like anybody who we're not talking about right now,
Speaker 5: I would say their stock kind of went down because
Speaker 5: it's I think it's one of those situations where you
Speaker 5: see a couple of guys getting over four yards per
Speaker 5: carry and so it's like the spotlight is on them.
Speaker 5: So while you know three point however many yards per carry,
Speaker 5: it's also very good, it can kind of feel kind
Speaker 5: of average whenever you've got a couple of other guys
Speaker 5: who are bringing so much more to the table, and
Speaker 5: I know, it's just it's one game and that's it.
Speaker 5: That's the tough thing about it. It's like, Okay, can
Speaker 5: we expect this to be consistent? Like is this something
Speaker 5: that we should expect to see game in and game
Speaker 5: out from these guys or is it possible that you
Speaker 5: end up making a decision based off a limited sample size.
Speaker 5: But I would say anybody who wasn't in a headline
Speaker 5: this morning, their stock kind of went out. Not saying
Speaker 5: that they don't deserve a spot. I'm just saying, like
Speaker 5: there are some guys who aren't being talked about as
Speaker 5: much today.
Speaker 3: Asia, I ain't sorry to trust you around no.
Speaker 9: I just if you're one of those running backs that
Speaker 9: was out there today, well on Saturday, does a lot
Speaker 9: of things like the one that you have on the
Speaker 9: roster right now that wasn't suiting up, So you know,
Speaker 9: if you.
Speaker 8: Want to, you know, decide who you want to keep.
Speaker 9: You know, that guy that was on the field, that
Speaker 9: was running with some power and some pop and stuff.
Speaker 8: You know, some decisions to be.
Speaker 9: Made in that way.
Speaker 8: I'm not saying that, you know, someone stock went down.
Speaker 9: I'm just saying that you see similarities and similarities in
Speaker 9: a player that wears number fifteen and then the player
Speaker 9: that rhymes with Freeman and that the you know, so
Speaker 9: decisions and as far as you's fine, there's not. There's
Speaker 9: not that many people. I don't think there's anybody in
Speaker 9: the running back room that does what Deuce can do,
Speaker 9: so I don't really find him comparable to anything else,
Speaker 9: and especially since he can, they've talked about doing some
Speaker 9: things in the receiving games. So I don't know about
Speaker 9: nobody's stop going down, but I mean know we it's
Speaker 9: the Spider Man pointing meme at this point with some
Speaker 9: of these guys, So I'm just.
Speaker 8: Pick a side.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, no, I agree, it's not necessarily that
Speaker 6: someone's stock went down yet, you know, but like if
Speaker 6: Malik Davis is still here and the other guys like
Speaker 6: Deuce and Royce, you know where they finally get a
Speaker 6: chance to get some carries and they come up. So,
Speaker 6: you know, I think the thing about it's good news
Speaker 6: it makes about the running back room, it's that it's
Speaker 6: making the decisions harder. And the other thing is, remember
Speaker 6: the second thing. We hadn't even mentioned Hunter Lipkey, right
Speaker 6: because they know exactly what they have. They don't need
Speaker 6: to see him in preseason. But the thing that it's
Speaker 6: hard to know how they did in coverage and blocking
Speaker 6: on special teams. So we need to talk to bones
Speaker 6: Fossil about that, because if you're the second, third, and
Speaker 6: or fourth running back on the team, just like if
Speaker 6: you're the fourth, fifth, sixth wide receiver or the second, third,
Speaker 6: fourth tight end, you have to be a core contributor
Speaker 6: on special teams. So that's where one of the differences
Speaker 6: is going to lie. So I think we'll have a
Speaker 6: better idea later this week after we get to talk
Speaker 6: to coach Fossil and see how people did on special teams.
Speaker 6: For example, the guy who's at the bottom of the
Speaker 6: depth chart at tight end, Alec Holler, two awesome, awesome
Speaker 6: plays in kickoff coverage down the field and just knock
Speaker 6: the snot out of the returner. So Holler is a
Speaker 6: guy that nobody's heard of, but when it comes to
Speaker 6: special teams, it was so obvious that he really helped
Speaker 6: himself and maybe helps secure a spot on the practice
Speaker 6: squad after a really strong performance on a couple of
Speaker 6: opportunities in kickoff coverage.
Speaker 10: Hey, Christy's talking about Alan Caller and knocking the snot
Speaker 10: out of people.
Speaker 4: How about this Cowboys offensive.
Speaker 3: Line knocking the snot off the defensive line for the
Speaker 3: Raiders commanding, come on, Jazzy, where is it?
Speaker 4: Where is it?
Speaker 5: That was pretty good?
Speaker 4: Sang Yeah.
Speaker 6: They call him slobber knockers. Slobber knockers and football Bill Bates.
Speaker 6: Longtime Cowboy fans will remember Bill Bates. He always loved
Speaker 6: the slobber knockers on special teams.
Speaker 4: But no, I mean, let's talk about this o line.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 10: Cooper Beebe obviously starting at center, Tyler.
Speaker 3: Giden just absolutely playing phenomenal on Saturday.
Speaker 4: Uh. Do you guys feel.
Speaker 3: That the Cowboys are in good hands with what this
Speaker 3: offensive line put on tape on Saturday? And again, let
Speaker 3: me put the disclaimer out there. I know it's the preseason,
Speaker 3: but with what you saw out of our twos, if
Speaker 3: we really or some of our ones, Tyler Giden, we're
Speaker 3: all pretty satisfied with what they put on tape. And
Speaker 3: I USh I'll start with you.
Speaker 9: Remember ask the Raiders starters they cause, I mean, you
Speaker 9: d you disclaimed with always his preseason, but they decided
Speaker 9: to play their starters. They were trying to They're trying
Speaker 9: to make some really serious decisions on both sides of
Speaker 9: the by both sides of the ball. So nah, I mean,
Speaker 9: it's went back. You know, I went back and watched
Speaker 9: the game twice and just the movement that some of
Speaker 9: these guys are getting using combo and duo blocks and
Speaker 9: working together and their communication and getting to the second
Speaker 9: level and really like walling off.
Speaker 8: Like there was even one.
Speaker 9: Play where it was Brevin Spamford and it was Brevin
Speaker 9: span Ford, Tyler Geydon and Cooper Bebe and.
Speaker 8: You literally see the it l They look like a unit.
Speaker 9: Just one like a wall together moving uh guys out
Speaker 9: the way.
Speaker 8: And you know, we talked about We've talked about it
Speaker 8: on this show number a.
Speaker 9: Number of times, is the fact that the run game
Speaker 9: for this team is intricate to their success and not
Speaker 9: only stopping the run, but being able to run the ball,
Speaker 9: being able to control the clock when you get into
Speaker 9: the playoffs, when it's when it's cold, being able to
Speaker 9: do those things, it's gonna open up your offense. So
Speaker 9: seeing these two gentlemen, these two young rookies come in
Speaker 9: and them starting to really shape into form, and you
Speaker 9: can see we got a very we we lucked up
Speaker 9: a little bit.
Speaker 8: We got a really real look at.
Speaker 9: Them against starters on another NFL team, and they succeeded.
Speaker 9: They had success eorally in that game running the ball,
Speaker 9: and that's why we were able to see a deuce
Speaker 9: do some things that's why we were able to see
Speaker 9: a Royce Freeman do some things and Milik Davis, so
Speaker 9: a lot of credit to them. And I guess we're
Speaker 9: gonna run the ball down people throw this year, y'all.
Speaker 8: I'm for it.
Speaker 5: I would love that. And everything that you just said
Speaker 5: is even more exciting when you think about the fact
Speaker 5: that not all the ones were even out there, Like
Speaker 5: we like what we saw from Cooper BB and what
Speaker 5: we saw from those guys working as a unit as
Speaker 5: you described, but imagine what it's gonna look like when
Speaker 5: Tyler Smith is out there and when Zach Martin is
Speaker 5: out there. Like I don't know how anybody could see
Speaker 5: what we saw on Saturday and not be excited about
Speaker 5: the line. And Cooper BB, I mean, he is just
Speaker 5: making a statement for a short arm o lineman everywhere
Speaker 5: It's like, how dare you trying to drop my jab? Stop?
Speaker 5: Found about I got short arms? Like what is that
Speaker 5: supposed to mean? Like the way that he's getting to
Speaker 5: a second level And did you see the play where
Speaker 5: he like knocks down one guy and then like the
Speaker 5: other guy tries to jump over and he just like
Speaker 5: pushes him down. He's like, yeah, this is what short
Speaker 5: arms will do to you, So I mean, I love it.
Speaker 5: And then Tyler Geydon, I really like what I'm seeing
Speaker 5: from him. Once again, I got to talk about on
Speaker 5: and off the field because I love the mentality that
Speaker 5: he seems to bring. Obviously I haven't spoken to him directly,
Speaker 5: but one of the things that I noticed about him
Speaker 5: was that like he does like this kind of pushing
Speaker 5: thing whenever he redirects guys, which is effective because of
Speaker 5: his size and his force, right, but obviously it's not
Speaker 5: exactly what you want to see all the time. And
Speaker 5: I noticed, like in the fourth quarter, like late in
Speaker 5: the game, he started like changing up how his hands
Speaker 5: were moving and latching on a little bit more. And
Speaker 5: so to me, that says coachability and the willingness to change,
Speaker 5: like even mid game. So I'm excited not only by
Speaker 5: what we saw, but what's to come from these guys
Speaker 5: because of how culchable they are and how much improvement
Speaker 5: that we've seen just from game one of the preseason
Speaker 5: to this weekend.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Aisha, what did you see from awesome Richards playing
Speaker 6: inside at guard?
Speaker 4: Christy? You know me els sits there.
Speaker 6: No, I want to know, just because you know he
Speaker 6: had been working at tackle and gardens, so you know,
Speaker 6: if you think he had a strong game, we need
Speaker 6: to mention him to speaking key role player.
Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, thank you for bringing up Awesome.
Speaker 8: I wrote my notes.
Speaker 9: He's stressing me out because he looks so strong at guard,
Speaker 9: and we talked about it the other day. Tackle is
Speaker 9: what you really need right now when you talk about depth,
Speaker 9: but the comfort. He's so much more comfortable inside right
Speaker 9: now because one thing about Awesome coming out is that
Speaker 9: he has the ability to mirror and stay in front
Speaker 9: of edge rusher's. He has defeat, but he wasn't redirecting
Speaker 9: guys well enough. That initial punch wasn't strong enough from him,
Speaker 9: and a lot of people were worried about his power. Now,
Speaker 9: what he's done, as Jazz was just talking about what
Speaker 9: he's done is gone to the well. He's putting on
Speaker 9: some extra muscle shirt, up his technique and they've put
Speaker 9: him inside. And I think that him being able to
Speaker 9: play inside allows him to not have to think so
Speaker 9: much because when you're out there on that edge, you're
Speaker 9: on an island. It's a lot more that you have
Speaker 9: to do, and it's a lot more ground that you
Speaker 9: have to cover right.
Speaker 8: So for him, I saw clean feet.
Speaker 9: I saw a mean streak Christy that I'm not sure
Speaker 9: I saw temperament wise from him, you know, in coming
Speaker 9: out of college, Like you see all of these guys,
Speaker 9: these young guys in this offensive line, they're finishing blocks,
Speaker 9: Christy like they are literally like yep, making sure dudes
Speaker 9: are in the dirt. And that is a mentality. And
Speaker 9: if your offensive line, your young guys are displaying that,
Speaker 9: that's gonna put fire into your veterans as well. So
Speaker 9: for him, I just see a more comfortable player with
Speaker 9: more power and you know, less thinking for him. So
Speaker 9: it makes me sick because I was really banking on
Speaker 9: him being the swing tackle for you and especially with
Speaker 9: Idoga out now, but what he's showing at guard is
Speaker 9: undeniable and it makes me sick.
Speaker 8: But I'm happy, but it makes me sick.
Speaker 3: Awesome, Richard's looking to continue to make a case for
Speaker 3: him to make the.
Speaker 4: Roster as roster cut downs come an.
Speaker 10: Approach, But we've also got to talk about that safety room.
Speaker 3: Who is standing out and who made the best impression
Speaker 3: after Saturday?
Speaker 4: Is it Janya Thomas? I don't know.
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Speaker 4: Kiddy, get it. I ain't got a transition now, I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna go straight into it.
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Speaker 4: Ladies?
Speaker 10: The safety position?
Speaker 3: Okay, now you want to give me a ding' that
Speaker 3: straight earlier?
Speaker 8: Real bad?
Speaker 3: That's crazy Jazzy doing me so dirty.
Speaker 10: But no, ladies, the safety position.
Speaker 3: Obviously with Marquis Spell, you got Yanye Thomas who uh
Speaker 3: stepping in that conversation, not that he wasn't before, but
Speaker 3: just certainly making plays on Saturday against the Raiders with
Speaker 3: the past breakup and the on the opening drive for
Speaker 3: the Raiders and also just getting to the quarterback as well,
Speaker 3: showing his ability. When you talk about a guy like Kanye,
Speaker 3: how difficult will it be.
Speaker 8: For I don't won't say how difficult?
Speaker 3: Uh? What has impressed Schael the most? Now that is
Speaker 3: year three for him? And do y'all feel like he
Speaker 3: could be take a step in the right direction? When
Speaker 3: you know, when you talk about the roster cuts, I'll
Speaker 3: talk about you Asha, start with you, Ayisha?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 8: One thing about Wanya and Christy, you can correct me
Speaker 8: if I'm wrong.
Speaker 9: I feel like you've been around Wyya a little bit more,
Speaker 9: and obviously he's been a big special teams guy. Bones
Speaker 9: thinks very highly of him from what you've told us.
Speaker 9: But with Wanye, it's playing under control. He has so
Speaker 9: much fire, and he is so fast, and the way
Speaker 9: he drives on balls and the way he's active in
Speaker 9: the run game. The only critique that I've ever really
Speaker 9: had of him, because he has the ability, has the range,
Speaker 9: he can cover a lot of ground very quickly. He's
Speaker 9: not afraid to put his nose in there and tackle.
Speaker 9: It's just, you know, all those are all the traits
Speaker 9: that you want from a safety. But for him, I
Speaker 9: thought last year it was playing under control.
Speaker 8: He wasn't.
Speaker 9: He was getting limited snaps, so you could feel his
Speaker 9: urgency sometimes on the field to make place to get
Speaker 9: in position. Now, with Zimmer system and the way this
Speaker 9: defense is run, I think a lot of these safeties
Speaker 9: are going to have the opportunity to be on the
Speaker 9: field together.
Speaker 8: We might see different rotations.
Speaker 9: And because to your point in the call, he has
Speaker 9: made those improvements. He is playing under control, he's reading
Speaker 9: and he's diagnosing Now like that play when he came
Speaker 9: from depth Christy and came all the way down and
Speaker 9: made a play on the ball. That's you know, seeing
Speaker 9: it and like reacting and going that's decisiveness and that
Speaker 9: lets me know that he's comfortable in this system. And
Speaker 9: then even so making a play at the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 9: coming up, realizing he's coming from depth again, covering a
Speaker 9: lot of ground, realizing like, hey man, he's scrambling, he's
Speaker 9: rolling to his left.
Speaker 8: It doesn't seem like he has anybody to go to.
Speaker 9: Listen, let me just put my hands up, let me
Speaker 9: just get my hands in the air. Like that's awareness
Speaker 9: and that's maturity from him. And so with this defense,
Speaker 9: I think Zimmer is gonna have to make some business decisions.
Speaker 8: And when I say that, I mean.
Speaker 9: Play the matchup game like who Even though Malik Hooker
Speaker 9: and Donovan Wilson are the starters, I think we can
Speaker 9: see some different rotations of guys because it's gonna be
Speaker 9: difficult to keep someone like Wanya and also someone like
Speaker 9: Marquise Bell, who had a hell of a game last
Speaker 9: week off of the field when they have this talent.
Speaker 9: So I hope I answered your question the long way.
Speaker 9: But I'm very impressed with what we've been seeing from
Speaker 9: these young safeties out there.
Speaker 5: Girl, same same, guess. One thing I'll say about Marquis Bell,
Speaker 5: because you covered almost everything I want to say about
Speaker 5: Oh no, it is totally It is totally fine. You
Speaker 5: did a great breakdown of everything, and I'm gonna get
Speaker 5: back to him. But Marquis Bell, he looks like he's
Speaker 5: benefiting a lot from a lot of the different positions
Speaker 5: that he had to play last season. Like it just
Speaker 5: seems like mentally things are clicking in a way where
Speaker 5: he can not only play his position very well, but
Speaker 5: he's also just supporting other guys and what's the word
Speaker 5: I'm looking for, a synergy, Like it seems like some
Speaker 5: very synergistic gameplay where it's almost like he just kind
Speaker 5: of knows what to do based on what's going around him.
Speaker 5: Going on around him. Now, Janie, as you were talking
Speaker 5: about his need to play with more control, I like
Speaker 5: part of me wanted to ask you, like, don't you
Speaker 5: think he did that this game?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Because like that was one thing I actually wrote it down.
Speaker 5: I was like, Yanye looked like he had an extra
Speaker 5: shot of espresso before the game like you you could
Speaker 5: see that, like you could feel the energy coming off
Speaker 5: the screen almost. But it wasn't crazy. It didn't feel dangerous.
Speaker 5: It didn't feel like there was a big risk for
Speaker 5: penalties or anything. It just felt like, Okay, he's here,
Speaker 5: he's excited to be here, and I don't know, I
Speaker 5: really like both those guys once again for different reasons.
Speaker 5: Once again, I'm very excited that I'm not the person
Speaker 5: having to make these decisions because it's kind of.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Wanye when you say awareness and instincts,
Speaker 6: you know, instincts can't be coached, yes, and you know
Speaker 6: it's one thing to know where you need to be,
Speaker 6: but then to kind of already be headed that direction
Speaker 6: and just keying on it and knowing that it's coming.
Speaker 6: But he is always around the ball, whether it's special
Speaker 6: teams or particularly at safety, So I hey, I don't
Speaker 6: never even thought there was really a risk to his
Speaker 6: roster position should coming into camp if he just built
Speaker 6: on what he did last year. But this is a
Speaker 6: this is these are one of the guys that you
Speaker 6: root for once you get to know him, and overcame
Speaker 6: so much with his childhood a stutterer, right had worked
Speaker 6: with a speech therapist, so imagine how he might have
Speaker 6: gotten picked on as a kid. But at four years old,
Speaker 6: one of four children, this in Cresview, Florida, and he
Speaker 6: and his mom and siblings. They're living in a car
Speaker 6: after their place is burned down and they're relying on
Speaker 6: Red Cross for vouchers and then living on people's couches
Speaker 6: later and things like that. So he knows what adversity
Speaker 6: is from a very young age. And so coming in
Speaker 6: from you know, Georgia Tech as an undrafted free agent,
Speaker 6: people think that's adversity. No, this kid has seen it
Speaker 6: way early in life. So he is one of the
Speaker 6: people that you really root for. And the one thing
Speaker 6: that who's fallen behind is Sheldrick RedWine, who was on
Speaker 6: the team last year and acted for a few games,
Speaker 6: key special teams guys. He's the one that needs to
Speaker 6: look out for his spot because with his injury and
Speaker 6: not being able to play on Saturday night, you know,
Speaker 6: Marquis Spell and Wan Ye keep shooting up the way.
Speaker 6: And also a guy like Amani Johnson, you talk about
Speaker 6: a bigger guy, and then Julius would just bigger physical safeties,
Speaker 6: which I mean, just bring it I mean, they are
Speaker 6: thumpers out there. So I am very impressed with how
Speaker 6: deep the talent is at the safety position.
Speaker 3: How difficult, Well, where does this room rank amongst difficulties in.
Speaker 10: I guess making those cuts at that position.
Speaker 4: Christy, y'all start with you.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's difficult at all in the top four.
Speaker 6: It's just how long you go at cornerback, and you
Speaker 6: know those corners that when you have a guy like
Speaker 6: Keemon Hall. He's had the big interception return. I know
Speaker 6: it was his splash play, but his ability to play inside.
Speaker 6: He's been the backup to Jordan Lewis. So I think,
Speaker 6: you know, you might have to go a little when
Speaker 6: you talk about the defensive back room. If you're going
Speaker 6: to keep ten of them or eleven of them, at
Speaker 6: least four are gonna be safety, maybe five, but you
Speaker 6: might have to go a little bit longer at cornerback
Speaker 6: depending on experience. You know who's going to back up
Speaker 6: Jordan Lewis. So, I think that's where the questions come in.
Speaker 6: And obviously any of the backup DB's are going to
Speaker 6: have to be real key players on special teams.
Speaker 10: He sure, what about you?
Speaker 8: I had a question for you ladies, since you're out there.
Speaker 9: You guys saw the game. We're talking about this safety room.
Speaker 9: But there's a safety Israel mccamill, who actually did some
Speaker 9: corner things. Yeah in this game? What is that about?
Speaker 9: And you know what is he is a corner. But
Speaker 9: I was just wondering, are they trying to to your
Speaker 9: point Christy talking about the depth at the safety position
Speaker 9: and the cornerback position, are they trying to get a
Speaker 9: look at him at corner?
Speaker 4: Maybe?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 6: So he's been mainly kind of playing think of when
Speaker 6: they would the way that Dan Quinn would match up
Speaker 6: the bigger guy, Yeah, I get him in a lost
Speaker 6: against him tight end or that ture. So so he
Speaker 6: has been playing more almost like a slot and coming
Speaker 6: down in the box and not deep safety. So Mukuamu,
Speaker 6: it kind of goes to my point of if you
Speaker 6: keep ten or eleven defensive backs, would he count as
Speaker 6: a safety? Would he count as a corner? But he
Speaker 6: has been playing a lot up at the line, kind
Speaker 6: of in the slought or matching up when they're in
Speaker 6: a dime and you have Jordan Lewis taking one slot
Speaker 6: and then Mukuamu the other or Mukuamu. You know, just
Speaker 6: coming out, he's gotten work inside in the nickel and
Speaker 6: then when they have two Nichols doing the dime, so
Speaker 6: he's gotten a lot of work that way.
Speaker 10: Thank you, no problem.
Speaker 3: Uh, ladies didn't get a chance to talk defensive tackle
Speaker 3: talk real fast before we take our next break.
Speaker 10: Justin Rogers we got a good better look at.
Speaker 3: Him now that uh you know, with the loss of
Speaker 3: or with the absence of Mazi Smith and Jordan Phillis.
Speaker 4: We'll start with Justin Rodgers.
Speaker 10: I show would you from him?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I wrote down he's steadily getting a strong well,
Speaker 9: he has a steadily strong anchor at the point of attack.
Speaker 9: So I mean he's just able to sit down on
Speaker 9: guys and deal with, you know, not being moved, not
Speaker 9: being driven back.
Speaker 8: I did feel like, yeah, he can get.
Speaker 9: Turned at times when his feet aren't set, but I
Speaker 9: think he has good play temperament and he has a
Speaker 9: natural feel for the position overall. Like I mean, some
Speaker 9: guys you just see play DT and it's just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 9: that's the DD you know what I'm saying, Like that's
Speaker 9: knows and I will say differently than what we saw
Speaker 9: from him in college sounds. It looks like he is
Speaker 9: like displaying a little twitch, am I tripping? Christy, just
Speaker 9: a little bit of like being able to get up field,
Speaker 9: and he's just a little lighter on his feet than
Speaker 9: I expected. Have you seen that as well, Christy?
Speaker 6: Really more when they have the one on ones, when
Speaker 6: they have the pass rush drills. Yes, all the but
Speaker 6: with a caveat that he's going mostly against the second
Speaker 6: and third teamers. That's fa when he's doing that. But yes,
Speaker 6: but I do agree with your point.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I.
Speaker 9: Mean, but I walked away to answer your question, Cale,
Speaker 9: I walked away looking at this DT room and what
Speaker 9: it is right now.
Speaker 8: Obviously Mazzi didn't play.
Speaker 9: Saw some better things from Huggins. We know he had
Speaker 9: a pretty tough week with everything going on from the
Speaker 9: practice and then also two, I didn't think he performed
Speaker 9: well last game. So this past game I felt like
Speaker 9: he showed kind of why they brought.
Speaker 8: Him here and what he could do.
Speaker 9: And then Jordan Phillips, he got off a plane, rolled
Speaker 9: off the plane and decided he's gonna play football.
Speaker 8: Christy, that's how we're doing things.
Speaker 6: And well, yeah, well the thing about Phillips is he
Speaker 6: had been in camp with the Giants, so it's not
Speaker 6: like there's a ramp up thing like when you sign
Speaker 6: a guy off the street where you need to give
Speaker 6: him a few days to get acclimated. So he was
Speaker 6: already in football shape and when you're playing the three technique,
Speaker 6: not that it's not difficult, but you know, it's not
Speaker 6: like quarterback, Hey learn a new offense. They could get
Speaker 6: him out there. The goal was to give him about
Speaker 6: fifteen plays coming in and helped me to clo. I
Speaker 6: think he ended up with about eleven plays and that's correct,
Speaker 6: so just under that target. But yeah, but that's why
Speaker 6: they were able to put him out there immediately is
Speaker 6: because he was already in football shape since he had
Speaker 6: been in camp for three weeks, albeit with another team.
Speaker 3: Christy real Quick, Actually a question for you. You saw him
Speaker 3: play at the one technique and three technique.
Speaker 4: Do you see him.
Speaker 3: Playing a little bit more of the one technique or
Speaker 3: do you see him being that backup behind osa Adzoo.
Speaker 6: I think initially and probably on the depth chart, he'll
Speaker 6: be listed behind Osaka, but it depends how well Mazi
Speaker 6: and Justin.
Speaker 8: Play at the one.
Speaker 6: Let's be let's be real honest and then and so
Speaker 6: many times when you especially get in the regular season,
Speaker 6: when you know you're in the nickel, and you know,
Speaker 6: think about last year when they would move like Chauncey
Speaker 6: Golston inside, you know, and kind of go with more
Speaker 6: of the pass rushers, and you take out the Massie
Speaker 6: Smiths of the world and the bigger or the Justin
Speaker 6: Rogers of the world and go with guys to get
Speaker 6: more of a pass rush up the middle. So I
Speaker 6: think Jordan Phillips is actually going to get a lot
Speaker 6: of work, mainly at the three, but some at the one.
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Speaker 3: So we're just gonna straight cut straight to it. These
Speaker 3: a lot of goals stars thinking about from Saturday. I'll
Speaker 3: start with you, Aisha, who would you give your goal
Speaker 3: start too? From Saturday's performance against the Raiders.
Speaker 9: Let Jazz go. I'm still thinking.
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm sorry, Jazz, can I can I do two
Speaker 5: or one and a half?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 5: One kind of connects to the DT conversation that we
Speaker 5: were having because I think Gardner Minshew was still having
Speaker 5: nightmares about Huggins. Like that was just hilarious to watch,
Speaker 5: especially considering like how i'll say disappointing he wasn't in
Speaker 5: the first preseason game and then watching him just like
Speaker 5: get to the QB that was I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: way to redeem yourself, Like good job. But honestly, we
Speaker 5: haven't talked about Trey Lance today, and while he does
Speaker 5: still have a lot to work on, the uh, the
Speaker 5: improvement that we did see, I mean, increasing his confidence,
Speaker 5: I feel like deserves a little bit of recognition just
Speaker 5: because I expected to see those improvements, right, But I
Speaker 5: don't think I expected to see so much improvement from
Speaker 5: one week to another, mainly in terms of his confidence
Speaker 5: and how comfortable he looked. You know, he's still he
Speaker 5: got a little bit more touch on the ball, right,
Speaker 5: but he's still there's some areas that he needs to
Speaker 5: work on the placement, especially whenever it comes to anything
Speaker 5: that's longer than like what like five to ten yards,
Speaker 5: And I almost feel like I see what it is.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: It feels like whenever he sees open space, but there's
Speaker 5: like a defender between him and that open space, he
Speaker 5: gets kind of nervous, a little bit hesitant, and so
Speaker 5: he's like, no, I'm not gonna do it, and you know,
Speaker 5: just ends up going to like either that first read
Speaker 5: or just whoever's closest or whatever it is that he's thinking.
Speaker 5: But he did look more comfortable, more confident, and I
Speaker 5: feel like, I just I want to acknowledge those improvements
Speaker 5: in his game. So shout out to Trey because we
Speaker 5: do that here.
Speaker 3: You love it.
Speaker 9: I'm ready now, Aisha, all right, go ahead your girl. Yes,
Speaker 9: it has to be the DN rookie Marshawn Kneeland giving
Speaker 9: that star lip the Raiders some.
Speaker 8: Hell, y'all.
Speaker 9: I mean, just he's just and Christy knows like you
Speaker 9: don't always see Edge's young Edge is specifically come in
Speaker 9: and have that power, that grown man football power immediately
Speaker 9: and he just plays with so much leverage, so much
Speaker 9: fire hit the motor is insane because even on the
Speaker 9: play that Wanye got the pick, well the well Wanye
Speaker 9: had the deflection.
Speaker 11: Yo.
Speaker 9: Marshaw Kneelan literally gets pinned inside. He gets pinned inside.
Speaker 9: He took the wrong read to start, so he gets
Speaker 9: pinned inside. He thinks they're running the ball. He spins out,
Speaker 9: goes all the way behind the freaking formation and is
Speaker 9: right next to Wanye when Wanye is, you know, deflecting
Speaker 9: the ball down.
Speaker 8: Like it's you can't teach some of the effort that
Speaker 8: he shows on the field.
Speaker 9: And I'm so excited to have someone opposite of Tank
Speaker 9: Lawrence that you know is gonna have the same tenacity
Speaker 9: in the run game, and that's gonna show that same fire.
Speaker 9: And he's also starting to give you a little shimi
Speaker 9: and a shake when you talk about a rushing the passer.
Speaker 9: So yeah, Marshaan Kneelan is my goal star. I mean
Speaker 9: he was everywhere to start that game, all.
Speaker 6: Right, Christy, Well, since y'all stole mine, I'm a steely
Speaker 6: I'll go dB with Keemon Hall. I mean, you know,
Speaker 6: the sixty nine yard interception returned for a touchdown. He's
Speaker 6: been playing so much again, he's been the backup to
Speaker 6: Jordan Lewis in the slot corner, playing the nickel corner.
Speaker 6: That is such a hard position to play, so crucial
Speaker 6: and he may have played his way into a spot
Speaker 6: on Saturday night but got catalytic play. But the reason
Speaker 6: why he gets my gold star is if y'all some
Speaker 6: of you may have heard this, but if you've not,
Speaker 6: this is so delicious. After the game, he was asked,
Speaker 6: you know, when's the last time he had had a
Speaker 6: pick six? You didn't scoring a touchdown on an interception
Speaker 6: return in he Mischien College. Who was the last time
Speaker 6: he had done it? So later in the same postgame interview,
Speaker 6: it's so, do you remember who the pick was? And
Speaker 6: he says, well, it is Jerry Jones's grandson. So University
Speaker 6: of North Texas is playing University of Art, Kansas, and
Speaker 6: he said it was John Steven Jones. That's Jerry's grandson.
Speaker 6: That's Stephen Jones's son. It was only like his second
Speaker 6: pass attempt in college, and Hall picks him off and
Speaker 6: takes it in for the score. So we said, well,
Speaker 6: does Jerry have you talked to Jerry about He says,
Speaker 6: first week of camp, I started to walk up and
Speaker 6: mention something about it, but I decided not to so anyway,
Speaker 6: but I'm going to go with Hall because of so
Speaker 6: many people that you've mentioned all already had great games,
Speaker 6: but he may have done the most for actually securing
Speaker 6: a roster spot thanks to a catalytic play.
Speaker 4: A guy I wanted to talk about was Marshawn Niland.
Speaker 4: Thanks Aiesha. No, but I think you talk about his
Speaker 4: run stopping ability.
Speaker 3: That was something that you know obviously stood out on
Speaker 3: table when the Cowboy drafted at him, so we knew
Speaker 3: that he was bringing that to the table.
Speaker 4: But I think for me, it was his thirst to
Speaker 4: show and.
Speaker 3: Determination to show that he can also be a pass rusher,
Speaker 3: and I think that he can be so disruptive off
Speaker 3: the edge.
Speaker 4: So I think that he's a guy that I'm going
Speaker 4: to give my goals start to.
Speaker 3: Who is a surprise guy a surprise standout from the
Speaker 3: Raiders game for you guys, And I'll start with Christy.
Speaker 6: Huh Okay, surprise stand out. Well, I was just glad
Speaker 6: to see actually, I would say awesome at guard just
Speaker 6: because not so much a surprise, but he had been
Speaker 6: moved around and having to play tackle, but to go
Speaker 6: in and play guard against that first team. And I
Speaker 6: know we've already talked about him in the earlier segment,
Speaker 6: but that's what made my heart happy out of all
Speaker 6: these guys to see what they did. I was really
Speaker 6: impressed since he had been moving around for him to
Speaker 6: finally kind of play mostly at one spot, I thought.
Speaker 6: I was pleasantly surprised at how dominating he was at
Speaker 6: time on some of those plays.
Speaker 5: Jazz, I'm looking through my notes to see if I
Speaker 5: have somebody that we haven't talked about already. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: guess as far as surprises go, like Huggin's performance was
Speaker 5: a little bit of a surprise for me as well.
Speaker 5: Maybe I'll go with with Phillips just because I did
Speaker 5: not know a lot about him before the Cowboys got him.
Speaker 5: So seeing him go out there and playing as many
Speaker 5: snaps as he played and then seeing him do like
Speaker 5: so much three tech stuff, that kind of stuff was
Speaker 5: a surprise to me. So I was like, Okay, what
Speaker 5: it made me think of was I don't remember what
Speaker 5: coach said it, but it was. It was sometime last
Speaker 5: season a coach was asked about bringing new people onto
Speaker 5: the team, and the response was something and I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 5: but it was something along the lines of, we're not
Speaker 5: always looking for a guy to replace a guy, but
Speaker 5: we're just looking for someone who has skills and abilities
Speaker 5: that we can use. And so when I saw the
Speaker 5: way that Phillips was used in the way that he
Speaker 5: was playing, that's what I thought of. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: so he's not like a Mazi substitute, but clearly he
Speaker 5: has a lot of skills that are gonna be like
Speaker 5: really beneficial to the defense. So that was a pleasant
Speaker 5: surprise for someone like me who wasn't as familiar with
Speaker 5: his game. I like what I saw.
Speaker 9: I like that Aisha, I'm gonna go with. I would
Speaker 9: be being disingenuous if I didn't say Keimon.
Speaker 8: Hall because I thought about saying it.
Speaker 9: I felt lost, Like it was like he was like surprise, surprise,
Speaker 9: I'm here.
Speaker 8: So I would say him.
Speaker 9: But really Inentrew Booths Christy, I felt like, I mean,
Speaker 9: when I watched film from him.
Speaker 8: Last week, I didn't see no tackling like that. I
Speaker 8: didn't see that fire.
Speaker 9: And you know, this is a guy that you know,
Speaker 9: people have said maybe had lost his confidence a little bit.
Speaker 9: But seeing him in that game even so just kind
Speaker 9: of you know, getting in a rhythm. I actually went
Speaker 9: to look because it kind of did seem like he
Speaker 9: needed a little time to acclimate. Obviously he doesn't know
Speaker 9: the defense like that, but I went to go look
Speaker 9: and yeah, he hasn't participate, participated in preseason, so this
Speaker 9: was like his first game technically, like of the season,
Speaker 9: kind of getting his legs under him, but seeing him
Speaker 9: come up and tackle and with force and intention despite
Speaker 9: the fact that you know he had a couple of
Speaker 9: receptions on him earlier in the game.
Speaker 8: I thought was encouraging.
Speaker 9: And he and Kemon Hall are making this cornerback conversation.
Speaker 8: They're making it interesting. They got one more game.
Speaker 5: I think both those guys are guys. Is it okay
Speaker 5: if I talk sorry, I think both those guys are guys,
Speaker 5: Like if you look at their resume, it's That's what
Speaker 5: kind of makes people not expect a lot, because when
Speaker 5: Booth was brought over, there was a lot of talk
Speaker 5: of like, okay, I remember because I talked about it
Speaker 5: on my show and somebody was like, okay, so we're
Speaker 5: trading one guy who's about to get cut for another
Speaker 5: guy who's about to get cut. That was the impression,
Speaker 5: and so I saying when I saw his tackling, I
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, he's really solid. And then Keim On Hall.
Speaker 5: He's been on six different teams. He was apparently on
Speaker 5: the Cowboys practice squad in twenty twenty. So I think
Speaker 5: whenever we see something like that, we're like, Okay, no
Speaker 5: team seems to keep him around or you know, put
Speaker 5: him on a fifty three man roster, So what exactly
Speaker 5: are we gonna do with him? And so then we
Speaker 5: see like, Okay, there's potential here. It definitely get paints
Speaker 5: a different picture than I think what a lot of
Speaker 5: us have seen just by looking at his resume and
Speaker 5: things that have been written about these guys.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well with a keem On Hall. What was interesting.
Speaker 6: He's from this small town in Mississippi, Califoun City, Mississippi,
Speaker 6: And so when he was on the practice squad for
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers last year when they went to
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. So that was cool that he was
Speaker 6: part of that forty nine ers team. But back home,
Speaker 6: they're so excited that in the offseason they gave him
Speaker 6: the keys to the city since he was on the
Speaker 6: practice squad of a team that went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: So I thought, as soon as that happened on Saturday night,
Speaker 6: I'm like, dang, are they going to deed him? Like
Speaker 6: half the property the Cowboys. Anyway, Hey, they're proud of
Speaker 6: him and they have a right to be.
Speaker 5: He's a mayor.
Speaker 10: So you guys talked about a Jazz and Aisha talked about,
Speaker 10: you know, Kemon Hall and Andrew Booth's willingness to tackle.
Speaker 3: That's honestly credit to Al Harris, right, because not only
Speaker 3: are you a ballhawk for this team as a cornerback,
Speaker 3: but you've got to have that willingness to tackle. So
Speaker 3: that's that's something that in just the short amount of
Speaker 3: time that he's been here, that both of those guys
Speaker 3: have been here, you can tell the difference from those
Speaker 3: guys as well.
Speaker 4: But ladies, this has been fun. Yes, this has been fun.
Speaker 4: This is actually our final show from training camp.
Speaker 3: We will resume back on schedule on Monday in studio
Speaker 3: I believe on Monday the schedule will be going.
Speaker 10: Out I believe by Derek Eagleton, our boss.
Speaker 3: But this has been fun, So I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 3: and wrap up for Aisha Morrison, Jazz Monet, Christy Scales,
Speaker 3: and Nicole Hutchson myself.
Speaker 4: We'll see you all next week.
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