WEBVTT - Your turn to talk (Part 2) 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:04.840 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and I heard 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:10.119 radio podcast. Welcome back to the most dramatic podcast ever. 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.920 I'm Chris Harrison. I had an amazing time answering all 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:17.599 your questions and getting your phone calls in this last episode, 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.680 but we ran out of time. I couldn't get to 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:21.680 all of you, and I want to get two more. 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:25.640 So consider this a little bonus time for you and 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.520 I let's dig a little deeper. I want to answer 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:32.840 more of your questions, and so my amazing producer Kendall, 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.479 we've we've pulled a bunch of questions and we're just 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.720 gonna jump into him and so Kendall, if you were there, fire, 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.080 let's go. Let's let's hear from everybody who listened to 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.240 the show and had something to say, the good, the bad, 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.199 and the ugly. Gus says, it would be helpful if 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.479 you explain why you were canceled. Do you want to 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:55.240 explain that? And for people who don't know, like us US, 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:02.440 it's called google man um. If you listen to those 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.880 two episodes and you had no idea what I was 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.039 talking about. God bless you, by the way, thanks for 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.040 sticking around for two hours because you must have been 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.960 thinking to yourself, what the hell is this guy referring to? 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.280 At no point did you think I'm gonna hit the 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.240 pause button. I gotta find out what this is about. Um, 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.360 But I appreciate you sticking through it, Gus. But yeah, 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:26.479 I didn't want to take everybody through the play by 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.960 play and minute by minute leading into I kind of 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.560 had to assume that you were up to speed with 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.320 me a little bit, so, Gus. If you weren't, I apologize. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:40.319 But yeah, just hit the Google unfortunately, or whatever search 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.480 engine you prefer. Whoever is going to actually sponsor this show. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.000 It could be anybody. Sam says you are just a 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:51.160 host and don't actually have any relationship expertise. Ouch, how 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.720 will you be discussing relationships on the podcast? Hey, you guys, 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.120 don't mind just cutting to the chase here, you know, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:01.760 just cut to it. I'm okay, Uh, Sam, Um, you 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:06.559 are right. At no time will I ever tell you 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:10.520 that I know everything, that I am an expert, that 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.919 I am a doctor. I have an honorary doctorate from 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:20.720 Oklahoma City University. Um. But Sam, I've seen things and 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.280 I've lived through things in my over half a century 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:29.520 on this planet. But in nineteen years of hosting the 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:36.040 show and being intimately immersed in every aspect of a relationship, 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:41.359 and being married for quite some time, myself, having children, 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:46.800 going through a very public divorce, UM, raising those kids 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:52.120 with my ex, trying to date again, UM, finding love again, 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.760 being engaged again, and going through all of these emotions. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:02.320 And so you're right. Technically, maybe I'm not a doctor, 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.600 but I played one on TV and Sam, I've seen things, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.960 so I think I will be able, in all seriousness 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:15.800 to be helpful when people seek advice because I have 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.240 probably either been through that situation or I've seen that 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:23.160 situation played out before me. All right, Kendall, what do 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.320 you what else you have for us? We're going to 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.160 take a quick break and then I have a lot 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:42.600 coming your way. Bring it. Welcome back to the most 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.320 dramatic podcast ever. I'm Chris Harrison, back with l Z 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.640 and we are back to your questions. Kendall are amazing producer. 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.400 What else do you have? Jacqueline wants to know if 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.560 you see yourself being a host in the future, and 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.640 adding onto that, I personally want to know, is there 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.640 any show that you would kill to be the host for? MM? Hmm. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.640 You know I've done both, Jacqueline. I've done both. I 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:08.640 have obviously started this franchise from the beginning the Bachelor franchise, 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.760 and that was fun and it was amazing to start something. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.080 But I've also jumped into franchises. I took over the 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.080 iconic hosting role of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:23.600 and I enjoyed trying to make that my own. So 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:29.440 I will, I can. I can see myself coming back. 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.400 What's more important to me is not as much what 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:38.120 I'm hosting anymore. It's who I'm working with. And at 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.719 a certain point in your life, luckily I get to 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.000 make that decision of who I want to work with 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.279 and who I want to surround myself with. This podcast 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.320 is a good example of that. I was offered a 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.880 lot of podcasts. I could have done this anywhere. I 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.800 did it at I Heart Radio because I have relationships 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:01.000 here and it was important to me to work with 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:08.280 these people. And so I will probably be back. And 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:13.240 I'm being kind of dodgy here because I'm a big 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:17.280 fan of working in silence and working quietly, and then 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.720 you will see the fruits of that labor. And so 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.279 I'm trying not to give too much away. There's some 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:28.800 exciting things on the horizon, um, but it's much more 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.360 important right now who we surround ourselves with and who 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.960 I work with. UM, I guess I'll leave it at 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.760 that for now. This is a good follow up question. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:39.960 Ashley is asking if you would step back in and 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.000 return to the Bachelor or Bachelorette? Would you do that? 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:48.599 Mm hmm. Isn't that the fifty million dollar question? Why 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.880 do you say fifty dollars? Is that how much it 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:55.440 would take? I would probably go back to kind of 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.560 what I said that last answer, and that is it 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:05.000 is so important who I work with or work for. 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.599 I don't see a path back. You know, my mom 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.400 always taught me never say never, and so I won't 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.440 say that word. But I don't see a path back 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.760 where I could find happiness and contentment. And and by 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:30.640 the way, conversely, my guess is they feel the exact 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:36.080 same way. UM. This show, this, this whole concept is 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:41.560 about relationships. And I look at that question as a 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:45.880 relationship and we, most of us have made this mistake. 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.719 When you get out of a relationship, it ended for 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:55.240 a reason. You got out for a reason. Making the 0:06:55.279 --> 0:07:01.120 mistake of going back into a relationship. You do it 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.800 sometimes for safety, you do it because it may makes 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.040 you feel good. You're longing for something. We remember the 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.600 good old days, the good times. You forget the bad 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.640 in relationships, and you go back to that that boyfriend, 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.040 you go back to that girlfriend, and as soon as 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.360 you're back, you're on date one, date two, and you're like, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.080 oh my god, how did I get myself back into 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.960 this situation? And now how can I hit the ejac 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.880 button and get back out? How am I breaking up 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:32.200 again with the same person? And so what I learned 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:36.000 in relationships I would apply here do I want to 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:42.720 get back in bed with that same girlfriend? And usually 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:46.120 the answer to that is no. Jen is saying she 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.640 found the first episode to be insufferable and that no 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.000 one wants to hear how hard the situation was for 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.760 you and how you couldn't fix it. You should really 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.000 start taking your own advice of not saying anything. Why 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.000 did you focus on yourself so much in that episod? 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:05.640 Jin I love these so I'm watching you squirm a 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:10.600 little bit. Thank you for listening to however many episodes 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.720 you made it through, I'd be interested to know how 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.240 how long Jin made it? Did you make it all 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.920 the way through one episode? And if so, I hope 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:18.880 you you missed the best part, which was l Z 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:23.640 in episode two. Um, I'm sorry that you felt that 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:28.400 way about the show, but I felt like the first 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.360 episode needed to be me talking for the first time 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.000 in two years. I thought, if I jumped into the show, 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.480 into this relationship podcast and just said, Hey, so we're 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.760 gonna be talking about hooking back up with your ex, 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.040 you know, boyfriend or girlfriend again, and just acted like 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.720 nothing happened, and I just started talking about relationships, I 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.680 thought that would have been really insincere. And I thought 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.599 you guys would have been thinking, uh, hey, Bud, you 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.240 kind of skipped over a little something. And I thought, 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:58.800 and I said this off the very top of that 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.720 first episode, if we are to have this relationship, and 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.520 that's what this podcast is, it's not only about relationships. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.400 It is a relationship, my relationship with you, which has 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:11.600 always been paramount to me. If this is going to happen, 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.560 if we're going to hook up in this way, I 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.839 needed to bear my soul. I needed to talk to you, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.360 and I needed to kind of show all my cards 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:25.480 and I needed to go first. This will evolve into 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:29.400 something very different. We will start talking more about relationships 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.319 and things going on and talk to have interviews and 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.760 guests and all that stuff that will happen. But I 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.440 just felt like, in all seriousness, those first words from 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:43.800 me needed to be meaningful and and raw and open 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.320 and honest. And I'm sorry if it just seemed so 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:50.920 much about me. But I'm also just you know, self 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:58.240 centered narcissist. I'm a leo. What are you gonna do? Hey, Kendall, 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.480 are there any nice ones? I'm just hold on kinda. 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:05.719 I only want them if they're really meanless. Lauren loves this, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.880 Elsie loves watching me scorm But hey, in all seriousness, 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.560 I will I will say this again. This wasn't about 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.959 sitting in an echo chamber and having a bunch of 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.120 people tell you exactly what you want to hear. You 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.960 get nowhere. There is no growth like that. I want 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.520 to hear the good, I want to hear the bad, 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.920 I want to hear the silly. That's what this is 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.680 all about. Life is messy. There are mistakes, so let's 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.319 lean into them, let's own them, and let's talk about them. 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:38.120 So bring it on as much as I can do 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:43.120 you mean legally, Yeah, Mark wants to know being the 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.679 host of the Bachelor and Bouchel for all those years 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:49.079 helped your own relationships and dating, did it? I mean 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.400 Elz sitting right here, She's the last girl I dated, 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.000 So I'll definitely let her come in on this. I'll 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.600 answer first, and you can correct me and make fun 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.760 of me. This is a perfect situation. I would say yes, 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:05.040 I would say I learned. There are the shallow things 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.800 that I learned, and that is the you know, I'm 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:12.000 a good planner. I really can curate a pretty damn 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:15.800 good date or trip um And and it's not that 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:20.320 I've taken things from the show, but yes you have 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.200 probably but you learn, but you learned some things. Now 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.040 you learn you learn how to kind of again curate 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:30.800 an amazing experience that is about that person and it's 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.720 about what she wants. And I'm speaking from my perspective. 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:37.360 She uh what Lauren would love. What I know Elz 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.120 is into and that that that's important is don't just 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.560 do something that I think is exciting, like I'm never 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:47.720 going to take elz Um on a golf trip and 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.120 and and try and sell it as hey, babe, I 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:54.080 have this amazing experience. Um. And so there is the 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.160 the shallow part of it, which, yeah, just curating and 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.040 all that I think I have become much better at. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:03.000 But also I think on a deeper level, emotionally speaking, 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.760 I am a little more in tune to what people 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.520 are really trying to say. I'm a better listener. Um. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:14.520 I would say I'm a better communicator than when I 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.600 started nineteen years ago. And look, some of that is 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.400 just growth as a human being and the experiences I've 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.840 had being a dad and getting my my kids partially 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:29.120 as a single dad, through young teenage years, graduation, getting 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.760 into college. You learn and you have to be a 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:36.439 better communicator, especially when you're by yourself as a parent sometimes. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.360 And so a lot of things have led into this, 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.280 but surely I have to give credit where credits due, 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.600 and spending nineteen years on that show helped. Julie wants 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.560 to know if you can share all our parts of 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.800 your brother's letter. Actually, we got a lot of d 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.240 m s about this asking this question. I heard this 0:12:52.320 --> 0:13:00.200 a lot, Julie, and the short answer is no. And 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.760 it's not because I won't, It's because I can't. For 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.120 the first time in the history I think of our relationship. 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.800 My brother listened to me and he took that letter down. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.560 He's not the most technologically advanced guy, apparently, because he 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:21.160 typed it directly into Facebook. No joke. I don't know 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.560 who does this, but he he typed it directly in 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.240 and so when he took it down, it's gone. I 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:32.600 assumed he typed it somewhere and then you know, copy 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.199 and pasted it in or whatever. I'm not on Facebook. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:39.760 I don't even know how it works, but unfortunately it's 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:47.520 been lost forever. Um and it was I read it. 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:51.679 I only read it once. It was just a heartfelt 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:55.680 letter to the world, defending his little brother, about the 0:13:55.760 --> 0:14:01.560 man that I am, the man that he knows, and 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:08.240 knowing that what was being said about me publicly, it's 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.319 just not in me. It was not a part of me. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.320 And and you know, for a man that knows me 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.760 better than anybody in this world, he was just defending me. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.960 And so that that letter will I don't know. Maybe 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:24.320 it's it's no pun intended poetic justice that it's lost 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:29.840 and will never be seen again. Um, I know what 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.960 it meant. I know where it came from. And but 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:39.960 it also hilariously kind of is typical of my brother, um, 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.960 because I called him and texted him, Hey, a lot 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.080 of people are asking about this letter. Is there any 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.000 way you could, you know, look back on your computer 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:49.920 you can find it. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:54.120 So finally today I texted him again. I said, hey, man, 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.200 not for nothing, but I'm I'm recording tonight if you 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.000 could look for that letter, it would really be great 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.080 if you don't mind. And he proceeds to text back 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.280 that he is in the middle of a bass fishing 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.640 tournament with his son, my my godson. They are out 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:10.400 bass fishing and they had a great day to day. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.800 By the way, Sam caught a over nine pound bass 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.000 and Glenn did really well also. So that's that is 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.280 the level of my brother. And they're one of my 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.360 favorite stories about my brother. His name is Glenn by 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:26.400 the way, and this is years ago. This must have 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.480 been early days of The Bachelor, like one or two 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.480 years in. I got the job as host of Miss America, 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.360 and I hosted Miss America for quite some time. I 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.240 think I was the second longest running host after Burt 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.280 Park who who was like the legend and but it was. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:41.960 This was the first year, and it was a big 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.240 deal that I got this gig. It was three hours 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.800 of life TV. You know, I had a chance to 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:48.880 prove on a network level that I could do live 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.520 and I could get outside the Bachelor bubble. And so 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.960 it was a big deal. And I hosted it. And 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.760 and I'll date myself of how old this show was. 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:02.120 Clay Aiken was the musical performer on that show. Gus, 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.920 don't come at me. Google Clay Aiken before you say, 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:06.680 I should explain who it is. He was on American 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.320 Idol a long time ago. So I host the show, 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.840 and not to toot my own horn, but I kind 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.240 of killed it. And I'm in Atlantic City and I'm 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.120 in what I guess I could call the Rainman Suite. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.080 I'm in this beautiful room. It's far too big for 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.760 any human being, and I'm really feeling it. I wake 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.400 up the next morning. I'm ten ft tall. I am 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:29.800 on top of the world, and I get a call 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.200 from my brother and I see the color I d 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:33.760 and I'm like, ah, you know, my brother is gonna 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.640 call and tell me what a great show I had. 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.440 I'm really excited, and I pick up the phone, and 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.440 we start talking and we you know, we talked for 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.720 a few minutes and I'm like waiting and I'm waiting, 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.680 and then all of a sudden, my brother says, oh 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.840 my gosh, I almost forgot. I'm so sorry, and I'm like, oh, 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:51.760 here we go. I caught the biggest bass the other day. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:56.280 And he goes on this fish story and the moral 0:16:56.360 --> 0:17:00.560 of this story and the through line on this It 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:04.120 is your family who will defend you. It is your 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.760 family and loved ones who will be in that foxhole 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.960 with you, take the bullets, stand beside you, stand in 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:14.120 front of you. It is also your family that will 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:18.120 burst that bubble and keep you humble. And whether it's 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.240 your family, and I say family loosely, I am luckily 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.680 lucky enough to have have a family, But whoever is 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:30.240 in your life that represents that, your friends, your loved one, 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.919 your significant other, whoever that is, I pray that you 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.720 have that someone who will build you up when you 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.639 need it, but knock you down when you need it 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.359 just as much. And that's what my brother has always 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:55.879 been for me. For It's asking if anyone from the 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:57.560 show reached out to you to check in and make 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.240 sure you're okay when you left the franchise a bunch 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:03.040 of people. Um, I I did name names. I kind 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.240 of listed some people. And it was the first or 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:09.800 second episode I remember last week. Um, it was second episode, 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.640 top of the second episode when I mentioned a list 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.840 of people. UM. And yes, there was a host of 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:21.359 people that have a reached out in the beginning but 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.240 have also reached out since. UM. And there's a couple 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:30.840 of people who I didn't mention. I wanted to mention 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:34.399 Graham Bunn, who's just such a sweet guy who's always 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:38.240 reached out to me. Dan Cox Um is another one 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.439 who's always just been a very very good friend. Brad 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:47.760 Walmack wrote me maybe the sweetest letter text letter that 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.639 I actually just got today because he had listened UM. 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:53.359 And he's funny because you know, of course Brady's like, 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.040 you know, I don't listen to podcasts, but I listened 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.720 to yours. So he just left me this amazing message. UM. 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:03.480 And two people that Britta reached out this week after 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:08.440 the first two episodes aired that I don't know surprising 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.560 is is the right word, because that that kind of 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.000 puts a negative spin and negative connotation on it. I 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.520 don't mean it like that. But the two Hannah's, Hannah 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:19.920 Ann and Hannah Brown both reached out and both had 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:28.520 incredibly kind, supportive things to say. And Um, Hannah Brown 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:31.399 wasn't as big as a surprise because Hannah and I 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.639 have have always had this bond and this kind of 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:38.399 thing between us that we've always kept up with UM 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:42.040 and obviously her being the bachelorette, there was that chemistry 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.760 there because we were so intimately involved in her life 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.199 and and that relationship, and so that wasn't as big 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.760 a surprise. But Hannah An actually had reached out and 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:53.480 just said, you know, look, I we haven't kept in 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.760 touch as much and I'm sorry for that, but and 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:58.720 then went on to say some really kind things. So 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.800 those two notes really stood out to me this this week. 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:06.280 Britta question for Lauren and Chris, Okay, how they wants 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:07.840 to know, how did you find joy in the hard 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:09.680 days and what do you feel like is the most 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.320 important lesson you learned from all of this and something 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.280 you would tell someone who messes up in the future. 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.760 I'm not a masochist. I don't I don't mean to 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:25.320 sound like I enjoy the tough times, but life isn't 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:30.480 a steady ascension. It's not just this simple road from 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.080 one success to the next, to the next to the next. 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.680 And if it were, it wouldn't be fun. It wouldn't 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:42.760 be interesting getting knocked on your ass, getting punched in 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:49.639 the gut and starting over. Making a mistake. Lord knows 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:53.320 I have made plenty, we all do. Everybody is fallible. 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:57.960 Everybody makes mistake. You will make mistakes. Now I hope 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:00.800 they're not as life altering is the one that I made. 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:06.960 But that's what makes life interesting. It's the messy stuff, um, 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:13.280 and getting through that, and that is the true true 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.680 resolve of a man or woman and your intestinal fortitude 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.840 of what's in you and how people respond. I always 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:25.360 look at how people respond when they're when they're down. Um. 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:29.920 It's easy to put up inspirational quotes and be all 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:34.639 fun and sappy when you're on top, when you're crushing it. 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:36.919 It's it's when someone's down and how they respond in 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:41.560 those moments that I really look to and I look 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.480 inside myself for those moments. How am I going to 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:50.840 respond to this? Um? And and so I would just say, 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:56.040 it's okay, embrace the mess, embrace your mistakes, they're gonna happen, 0:21:56.680 --> 0:22:00.000 try to learn from them, try to grow from them, 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:04.440 try to become a better man or woman, and move forward. 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:10.480 And don't let those that want to hold on to 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:14.119 that keep you in that space. And this is a 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:19.320 really important thing. Don't stay there and don't let people 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:24.320 keep you there. There are those that want to because 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.159 for whatever reason, it makes them feel better, makes them 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.480 feel better about their own lives. It has something to 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.159 do with their own history and their own perspective or 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.080 things that happened to them that can't be on you. 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:40.959 You say what you have to say, apologize, fix it, 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.720 move on. But you need to move on. Don't stay there, 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:50.320 take that next step, wake up the next morning, move forward. 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:55.160 I said this a little last week. I am still 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:59.439 so very, very grateful for everything about the life that 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.040 we have, whatever we might have been through over the 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:05.280 past year and a half. Um, there are people who 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:09.000 go through so much worse. And I think what's so important, 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.200 because here's the thing. Life is going to throw things 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:17.320 at you. No one goes through life unscathed, and I 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.120 think one of the most important things we can do 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:23.560 is try to find join those dark times. UM, I 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:25.840 don't think there was, you know, a day that we 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:27.760 went by when we didn't smile at each other at 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.200 some point, and a lot of the time we had 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:35.400 to sort of find the wild humor in the situations 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:37.560 we were in. I don't know where we would have 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.080 been if we hadn't found a way to laugh a 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:42.679 little bit in those times. Bethany wants to know if 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:46.240 anyone betrayed you, like a cast member or employer or 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:49.280 anyone in your world. And if you're going to answer that, 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:51.040 I want to know why you think they betrayed you. 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.919 Oh wow, this question came through my d M S. Actually, 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:57.520 so I'm gonna jump in. That is a big question, 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:05.720 and betrayal is a big word. But I will say, yes, 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:08.600 there were moments when I felt betrayed over the past 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.680 year and a half. Um, there were moments where we 0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:19.159 were lied to, there were promises that were made that 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:27.120 we're not kept. Um, there were moments were Yeah, maybe 0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.480 the word is betrayal because we were told one thing 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.480 and another was done. Um. But I don't want to 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:38.119 name names and get into specifics on that because I 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.560