Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and I heard
Speaker 1: radio podcast. Welcome back to the most dramatic podcast ever.
Speaker 1: I'm Chris Harrison. I had an amazing time answering all
Speaker 1: your questions and getting your phone calls in this last episode,
Speaker 1: but we ran out of time. I couldn't get to
Speaker 1: all of you, and I want to get two more.
Speaker 1: So consider this a little bonus time for you and
Speaker 1: I let's dig a little deeper. I want to answer
Speaker 1: more of your questions, and so my amazing producer Kendall,
Speaker 1: we've we've pulled a bunch of questions and we're just
Speaker 1: gonna jump into him and so Kendall, if you were there, fire,
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's let's hear from everybody who listened to
Speaker 1: the show and had something to say, the good, the bad,
Speaker 1: and the ugly. Gus says, it would be helpful if
Speaker 1: you explain why you were canceled. Do you want to
Speaker 1: explain that? And for people who don't know, like us US,
Speaker 1: it's called google man um. If you listen to those
Speaker 1: two episodes and you had no idea what I was
Speaker 1: talking about. God bless you, by the way, thanks for
Speaker 1: sticking around for two hours because you must have been
Speaker 1: thinking to yourself, what the hell is this guy referring to?
Speaker 1: At no point did you think I'm gonna hit the
Speaker 1: pause button. I gotta find out what this is about. Um,
Speaker 1: But I appreciate you sticking through it, Gus. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to take everybody through the play by
Speaker 1: play and minute by minute leading into I kind of
Speaker 1: had to assume that you were up to speed with
Speaker 1: me a little bit, so, Gus. If you weren't, I apologize.
Speaker 1: But yeah, just hit the Google unfortunately, or whatever search
Speaker 1: engine you prefer. Whoever is going to actually sponsor this show.
Speaker 1: It could be anybody. Sam says you are just a
Speaker 1: host and don't actually have any relationship expertise. Ouch, how
Speaker 1: will you be discussing relationships on the podcast? Hey, you guys,
Speaker 1: don't mind just cutting to the chase here, you know,
Speaker 1: just cut to it. I'm okay, Uh, Sam, Um, you
Speaker 1: are right. At no time will I ever tell you
Speaker 1: that I know everything, that I am an expert, that
Speaker 1: I am a doctor. I have an honorary doctorate from
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City University. Um. But Sam, I've seen things and
Speaker 1: I've lived through things in my over half a century
Speaker 1: on this planet. But in nineteen years of hosting the
Speaker 1: show and being intimately immersed in every aspect of a relationship,
Speaker 1: and being married for quite some time, myself, having children,
Speaker 1: going through a very public divorce, UM, raising those kids
Speaker 1: with my ex, trying to date again, UM, finding love again,
Speaker 1: being engaged again, and going through all of these emotions.
Speaker 1: And so you're right. Technically, maybe I'm not a doctor,
Speaker 1: but I played one on TV and Sam, I've seen things,
Speaker 1: so I think I will be able, in all seriousness
Speaker 1: to be helpful when people seek advice because I have
Speaker 1: probably either been through that situation or I've seen that
Speaker 1: situation played out before me. All right, Kendall, what do
Speaker 1: you what else you have for us? We're going to
Speaker 1: take a quick break and then I have a lot
Speaker 1: coming your way. Bring it. Welcome back to the most
Speaker 1: dramatic podcast ever. I'm Chris Harrison, back with l Z
Speaker 1: and we are back to your questions. Kendall are amazing producer.
Speaker 1: What else do you have? Jacqueline wants to know if
Speaker 1: you see yourself being a host in the future, and
Speaker 1: adding onto that, I personally want to know, is there
Speaker 1: any show that you would kill to be the host for? MM? Hmm.
Speaker 1: You know I've done both, Jacqueline. I've done both. I
Speaker 1: have obviously started this franchise from the beginning the Bachelor franchise,
Speaker 1: and that was fun and it was amazing to start something.
Speaker 1: But I've also jumped into franchises. I took over the
Speaker 1: iconic hosting role of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire,
Speaker 1: and I enjoyed trying to make that my own. So
Speaker 1: I will, I can. I can see myself coming back.
Speaker 1: What's more important to me is not as much what
Speaker 1: I'm hosting anymore. It's who I'm working with. And at
Speaker 1: a certain point in your life, luckily I get to
Speaker 1: make that decision of who I want to work with
Speaker 1: and who I want to surround myself with. This podcast
Speaker 1: is a good example of that. I was offered a
Speaker 1: lot of podcasts. I could have done this anywhere. I
Speaker 1: did it at I Heart Radio because I have relationships
Speaker 1: here and it was important to me to work with
Speaker 1: these people. And so I will probably be back. And
Speaker 1: I'm being kind of dodgy here because I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of working in silence and working quietly, and then
Speaker 1: you will see the fruits of that labor. And so
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to give too much away. There's some
Speaker 1: exciting things on the horizon, um, but it's much more
Speaker 1: important right now who we surround ourselves with and who
Speaker 1: I work with. UM, I guess I'll leave it at
Speaker 1: that for now. This is a good follow up question.
Speaker 1: Ashley is asking if you would step back in and
Speaker 1: return to the Bachelor or Bachelorette? Would you do that?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Isn't that the fifty million dollar question? Why
Speaker 1: do you say fifty dollars? Is that how much it
Speaker 1: would take? I would probably go back to kind of
Speaker 1: what I said that last answer, and that is it
Speaker 1: is so important who I work with or work for.
Speaker 1: I don't see a path back. You know, my mom
Speaker 1: always taught me never say never, and so I won't
Speaker 1: say that word. But I don't see a path back
Speaker 1: where I could find happiness and contentment. And and by
Speaker 1: the way, conversely, my guess is they feel the exact
Speaker 1: same way. UM. This show, this, this whole concept is
Speaker 1: about relationships. And I look at that question as a
Speaker 1: relationship and we, most of us have made this mistake.
Speaker 1: When you get out of a relationship, it ended for
Speaker 1: a reason. You got out for a reason. Making the
Speaker 1: mistake of going back into a relationship. You do it
Speaker 1: sometimes for safety, you do it because it may makes
Speaker 1: you feel good. You're longing for something. We remember the
Speaker 1: good old days, the good times. You forget the bad
Speaker 1: in relationships, and you go back to that that boyfriend,
Speaker 1: you go back to that girlfriend, and as soon as
Speaker 1: you're back, you're on date one, date two, and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, how did I get myself back into
Speaker 1: this situation? And now how can I hit the ejac
Speaker 1: button and get back out? How am I breaking up
Speaker 1: again with the same person? And so what I learned
Speaker 1: in relationships I would apply here do I want to
Speaker 1: get back in bed with that same girlfriend? And usually
Speaker 1: the answer to that is no. Jen is saying she
Speaker 1: found the first episode to be insufferable and that no
Speaker 1: one wants to hear how hard the situation was for
Speaker 1: you and how you couldn't fix it. You should really
Speaker 1: start taking your own advice of not saying anything. Why
Speaker 1: did you focus on yourself so much in that episod?
Speaker 1: Jin I love these so I'm watching you squirm a
Speaker 1: little bit. Thank you for listening to however many episodes
Speaker 1: you made it through, I'd be interested to know how
Speaker 1: how long Jin made it? Did you make it all
Speaker 1: the way through one episode? And if so, I hope
Speaker 1: you you missed the best part, which was l Z
Speaker 1: in episode two. Um, I'm sorry that you felt that
Speaker 1: way about the show, but I felt like the first
Speaker 1: episode needed to be me talking for the first time
Speaker 1: in two years. I thought, if I jumped into the show,
Speaker 1: into this relationship podcast and just said, Hey, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about hooking back up with your ex,
Speaker 1: you know, boyfriend or girlfriend again, and just acted like
Speaker 1: nothing happened, and I just started talking about relationships, I
Speaker 1: thought that would have been really insincere. And I thought
Speaker 1: you guys would have been thinking, uh, hey, Bud, you
Speaker 1: kind of skipped over a little something. And I thought,
Speaker 1: and I said this off the very top of that
Speaker 1: first episode, if we are to have this relationship, and
Speaker 1: that's what this podcast is, it's not only about relationships.
Speaker 1: It is a relationship, my relationship with you, which has
Speaker 1: always been paramount to me. If this is going to happen,
Speaker 1: if we're going to hook up in this way, I
Speaker 1: needed to bear my soul. I needed to talk to you,
Speaker 1: and I needed to kind of show all my cards
Speaker 1: and I needed to go first. This will evolve into
Speaker 1: something very different. We will start talking more about relationships
Speaker 1: and things going on and talk to have interviews and
Speaker 1: guests and all that stuff that will happen. But I
Speaker 1: just felt like, in all seriousness, those first words from
Speaker 1: me needed to be meaningful and and raw and open
Speaker 1: and honest. And I'm sorry if it just seemed so
Speaker 1: much about me. But I'm also just you know, self
Speaker 1: centered narcissist. I'm a leo. What are you gonna do? Hey, Kendall,
Speaker 1: are there any nice ones? I'm just hold on kinda.
Speaker 1: I only want them if they're really meanless. Lauren loves this,
Speaker 1: Elsie loves watching me scorm But hey, in all seriousness,
Speaker 1: I will I will say this again. This wasn't about
Speaker 1: sitting in an echo chamber and having a bunch of
Speaker 1: people tell you exactly what you want to hear. You
Speaker 1: get nowhere. There is no growth like that. I want
Speaker 1: to hear the good, I want to hear the bad,
Speaker 1: I want to hear the silly. That's what this is
Speaker 1: all about. Life is messy. There are mistakes, so let's
Speaker 1: lean into them, let's own them, and let's talk about them.
Speaker 1: So bring it on as much as I can do
Speaker 1: you mean legally, Yeah, Mark wants to know being the
Speaker 1: host of the Bachelor and Bouchel for all those years
Speaker 1: helped your own relationships and dating, did it? I mean
Speaker 1: Elz sitting right here, She's the last girl I dated,
Speaker 1: So I'll definitely let her come in on this. I'll
Speaker 1: answer first, and you can correct me and make fun
Speaker 1: of me. This is a perfect situation. I would say yes,
Speaker 1: I would say I learned. There are the shallow things
Speaker 1: that I learned, and that is the you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a good planner. I really can curate a pretty damn
Speaker 1: good date or trip um And and it's not that
Speaker 1: I've taken things from the show, but yes you have
Speaker 1: probably but you learn, but you learned some things. Now
Speaker 1: you learn you learn how to kind of again curate
Speaker 1: an amazing experience that is about that person and it's
Speaker 1: about what she wants. And I'm speaking from my perspective.
Speaker 1: She uh what Lauren would love. What I know Elz
Speaker 1: is into and that that that's important is don't just
Speaker 1: do something that I think is exciting, like I'm never
Speaker 1: going to take elz Um on a golf trip and
Speaker 1: and and try and sell it as hey, babe, I
Speaker 1: have this amazing experience. Um. And so there is the
Speaker 1: the shallow part of it, which, yeah, just curating and
Speaker 1: all that I think I have become much better at.
Speaker 1: But also I think on a deeper level, emotionally speaking,
Speaker 1: I am a little more in tune to what people
Speaker 1: are really trying to say. I'm a better listener. Um.
Speaker 1: I would say I'm a better communicator than when I
Speaker 1: started nineteen years ago. And look, some of that is
Speaker 1: just growth as a human being and the experiences I've
Speaker 1: had being a dad and getting my my kids partially
Speaker 1: as a single dad, through young teenage years, graduation, getting
Speaker 1: into college. You learn and you have to be a
Speaker 1: better communicator, especially when you're by yourself as a parent sometimes.
Speaker 1: And so a lot of things have led into this,
Speaker 1: but surely I have to give credit where credits due,
Speaker 1: and spending nineteen years on that show helped. Julie wants
Speaker 1: to know if you can share all our parts of
Speaker 1: your brother's letter. Actually, we got a lot of d
Speaker 1: m s about this asking this question. I heard this
Speaker 1: a lot, Julie, and the short answer is no. And
Speaker 1: it's not because I won't, It's because I can't. For
Speaker 1: the first time in the history I think of our relationship.
Speaker 1: My brother listened to me and he took that letter down.
Speaker 1: He's not the most technologically advanced guy, apparently, because he
Speaker 1: typed it directly into Facebook. No joke. I don't know
Speaker 1: who does this, but he he typed it directly in
Speaker 1: and so when he took it down, it's gone. I
Speaker 1: assumed he typed it somewhere and then you know, copy
Speaker 1: and pasted it in or whatever. I'm not on Facebook.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how it works, but unfortunately it's
Speaker 1: been lost forever. Um and it was I read it.
Speaker 1: I only read it once. It was just a heartfelt
Speaker 1: letter to the world, defending his little brother, about the
Speaker 1: man that I am, the man that he knows, and
Speaker 1: knowing that what was being said about me publicly, it's
Speaker 1: just not in me. It was not a part of me.
Speaker 1: And and you know, for a man that knows me
Speaker 1: better than anybody in this world, he was just defending me.
Speaker 1: And so that that letter will I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's it's no pun intended poetic justice that it's lost
Speaker 1: and will never be seen again. Um, I know what
Speaker 1: it meant. I know where it came from. And but
Speaker 1: it also hilariously kind of is typical of my brother, um,
Speaker 1: because I called him and texted him, Hey, a lot
Speaker 1: of people are asking about this letter. Is there any
Speaker 1: way you could, you know, look back on your computer
Speaker 1: you can find it. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So finally today I texted him again. I said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: not for nothing, but I'm I'm recording tonight if you
Speaker 1: could look for that letter, it would really be great
Speaker 1: if you don't mind. And he proceeds to text back
Speaker 1: that he is in the middle of a bass fishing
Speaker 1: tournament with his son, my my godson. They are out
Speaker 1: bass fishing and they had a great day to day.
Speaker 1: By the way, Sam caught a over nine pound bass
Speaker 1: and Glenn did really well also. So that's that is
Speaker 1: the level of my brother. And they're one of my
Speaker 1: favorite stories about my brother. His name is Glenn by
Speaker 1: the way, and this is years ago. This must have
Speaker 1: been early days of The Bachelor, like one or two
Speaker 1: years in. I got the job as host of Miss America,
Speaker 1: and I hosted Miss America for quite some time. I
Speaker 1: think I was the second longest running host after Burt
Speaker 1: Park who who was like the legend and but it was.
Speaker 1: This was the first year, and it was a big
Speaker 1: deal that I got this gig. It was three hours
Speaker 1: of life TV. You know, I had a chance to
Speaker 1: prove on a network level that I could do live
Speaker 1: and I could get outside the Bachelor bubble. And so
Speaker 1: it was a big deal. And I hosted it. And
Speaker 1: and I'll date myself of how old this show was.
Speaker 1: Clay Aiken was the musical performer on that show. Gus,
Speaker 1: don't come at me. Google Clay Aiken before you say,
Speaker 1: I should explain who it is. He was on American
Speaker 1: Idol a long time ago. So I host the show,
Speaker 1: and not to toot my own horn, but I kind
Speaker 1: of killed it. And I'm in Atlantic City and I'm
Speaker 1: in what I guess I could call the Rainman Suite.
Speaker 1: I'm in this beautiful room. It's far too big for
Speaker 1: any human being, and I'm really feeling it. I wake
Speaker 1: up the next morning. I'm ten ft tall. I am
Speaker 1: on top of the world, and I get a call
Speaker 1: from my brother and I see the color I d
Speaker 1: and I'm like, ah, you know, my brother is gonna
Speaker 1: call and tell me what a great show I had.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited, and I pick up the phone, and
Speaker 1: we start talking and we you know, we talked for
Speaker 1: a few minutes and I'm like waiting and I'm waiting,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, my brother says, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I almost forgot. I'm so sorry, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: here we go. I caught the biggest bass the other day.
Speaker 1: And he goes on this fish story and the moral
Speaker 1: of this story and the through line on this It
Speaker 1: is your family who will defend you. It is your
Speaker 1: family and loved ones who will be in that foxhole
Speaker 1: with you, take the bullets, stand beside you, stand in
Speaker 1: front of you. It is also your family that will
Speaker 1: burst that bubble and keep you humble. And whether it's
Speaker 1: your family, and I say family loosely, I am luckily
Speaker 1: lucky enough to have have a family, But whoever is
Speaker 1: in your life that represents that, your friends, your loved one,
Speaker 1: your significant other, whoever that is, I pray that you
Speaker 1: have that someone who will build you up when you
Speaker 1: need it, but knock you down when you need it
Speaker 1: just as much. And that's what my brother has always
Speaker 1: been for me. For It's asking if anyone from the
Speaker 1: show reached out to you to check in and make
Speaker 1: sure you're okay when you left the franchise a bunch
Speaker 1: of people. Um, I I did name names. I kind
Speaker 1: of listed some people. And it was the first or
Speaker 1: second episode I remember last week. Um, it was second episode,
Speaker 1: top of the second episode when I mentioned a list
Speaker 1: of people. UM. And yes, there was a host of
Speaker 1: people that have a reached out in the beginning but
Speaker 1: have also reached out since. UM. And there's a couple
Speaker 1: of people who I didn't mention. I wanted to mention
Speaker 1: Graham Bunn, who's just such a sweet guy who's always
Speaker 1: reached out to me. Dan Cox Um is another one
Speaker 1: who's always just been a very very good friend. Brad
Speaker 1: Walmack wrote me maybe the sweetest letter text letter that
Speaker 1: I actually just got today because he had listened UM.
Speaker 1: And he's funny because you know, of course Brady's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't listen to podcasts, but I listened
Speaker 1: to yours. So he just left me this amazing message. UM.
Speaker 1: And two people that Britta reached out this week after
Speaker 1: the first two episodes aired that I don't know surprising
Speaker 1: is is the right word, because that that kind of
Speaker 1: puts a negative spin and negative connotation on it. I
Speaker 1: don't mean it like that. But the two Hannah's, Hannah
Speaker 1: Ann and Hannah Brown both reached out and both had
Speaker 1: incredibly kind, supportive things to say. And Um, Hannah Brown
Speaker 1: wasn't as big as a surprise because Hannah and I
Speaker 1: have have always had this bond and this kind of
Speaker 1: thing between us that we've always kept up with UM
Speaker 1: and obviously her being the bachelorette, there was that chemistry
Speaker 1: there because we were so intimately involved in her life
Speaker 1: and and that relationship, and so that wasn't as big
Speaker 1: a surprise. But Hannah An actually had reached out and
Speaker 1: just said, you know, look, I we haven't kept in
Speaker 1: touch as much and I'm sorry for that, but and
Speaker 1: then went on to say some really kind things. So
Speaker 1: those two notes really stood out to me this this week.
Speaker 1: Britta question for Lauren and Chris, Okay, how they wants
Speaker 1: to know, how did you find joy in the hard
Speaker 1: days and what do you feel like is the most
Speaker 1: important lesson you learned from all of this and something
Speaker 1: you would tell someone who messes up in the future.
Speaker 1: I'm not a masochist. I don't I don't mean to
Speaker 1: sound like I enjoy the tough times, but life isn't
Speaker 1: a steady ascension. It's not just this simple road from
Speaker 1: one success to the next, to the next to the next.
Speaker 1: And if it were, it wouldn't be fun. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: be interesting getting knocked on your ass, getting punched in
Speaker 1: the gut and starting over. Making a mistake. Lord knows
Speaker 1: I have made plenty, we all do. Everybody is fallible.
Speaker 1: Everybody makes mistake. You will make mistakes. Now I hope
Speaker 1: they're not as life altering is the one that I made.
Speaker 1: But that's what makes life interesting. It's the messy stuff, um,
Speaker 1: and getting through that, and that is the true true
Speaker 1: resolve of a man or woman and your intestinal fortitude
Speaker 1: of what's in you and how people respond. I always
Speaker 1: look at how people respond when they're when they're down. Um.
Speaker 1: It's easy to put up inspirational quotes and be all
Speaker 1: fun and sappy when you're on top, when you're crushing it.
Speaker 1: It's it's when someone's down and how they respond in
Speaker 1: those moments that I really look to and I look
Speaker 1: inside myself for those moments. How am I going to
Speaker 1: respond to this? Um? And and so I would just say,
Speaker 1: it's okay, embrace the mess, embrace your mistakes, they're gonna happen,
Speaker 1: try to learn from them, try to grow from them,
Speaker 1: try to become a better man or woman, and move forward.
Speaker 1: And don't let those that want to hold on to
Speaker 1: that keep you in that space. And this is a
Speaker 1: really important thing. Don't stay there and don't let people
Speaker 1: keep you there. There are those that want to because
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it makes them feel better, makes them
Speaker 1: feel better about their own lives. It has something to
Speaker 1: do with their own history and their own perspective or
Speaker 1: things that happened to them that can't be on you.
Speaker 1: You say what you have to say, apologize, fix it,
Speaker 1: move on. But you need to move on. Don't stay there,
Speaker 1: take that next step, wake up the next morning, move forward.
Speaker 1: I said this a little last week. I am still
Speaker 1: so very, very grateful for everything about the life that
Speaker 1: we have, whatever we might have been through over the
Speaker 1: past year and a half. Um, there are people who
Speaker 1: go through so much worse. And I think what's so important,
Speaker 1: because here's the thing. Life is going to throw things
Speaker 1: at you. No one goes through life unscathed, and I
Speaker 1: think one of the most important things we can do
Speaker 1: is try to find join those dark times. UM, I
Speaker 1: don't think there was, you know, a day that we
Speaker 1: went by when we didn't smile at each other at
Speaker 1: some point, and a lot of the time we had
Speaker 1: to sort of find the wild humor in the situations
Speaker 1: we were in. I don't know where we would have
Speaker 1: been if we hadn't found a way to laugh a
Speaker 1: little bit in those times. Bethany wants to know if
Speaker 1: anyone betrayed you, like a cast member or employer or
Speaker 1: anyone in your world. And if you're going to answer that,
Speaker 1: I want to know why you think they betrayed you.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, this question came through my d M S. Actually,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna jump in. That is a big question,
Speaker 1: and betrayal is a big word. But I will say, yes,
Speaker 1: there were moments when I felt betrayed over the past
Speaker 1: year and a half. Um, there were moments where we
Speaker 1: were lied to, there were promises that were made that
Speaker 1: we're not kept. Um, there were moments were Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: the word is betrayal because we were told one thing
Speaker 1: and another was done. Um. But I don't want to
Speaker 1: name names and get into specifics on that because I
Speaker 1: don't hold anger towards those people. UM. One thing we've
Speaker 1: been saying is that we all make mistakes, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe they feel differently about the things that
Speaker 1: they did now, maybe they don't, maybe they will one day. Um,
Speaker 1: but I don't hold anger about it. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think you said you even said something about this
Speaker 1: on the podcast last week that maybe fits in, um,
Speaker 1: that you can expect expect the best or what was
Speaker 1: it you remind me is hope for the best, just
Speaker 1: don't expect it out of people. The million dollar question
Speaker 1: Linda is asking about your relationship with Rachel Kirconnell and
Speaker 1: Matt James. Did you talk to them right after the interview?
Speaker 1: And where do you guys even stand today? I'll kind
Speaker 1: of break the answer up, Linda, thank you. Um, yes,
Speaker 1: I did talk to Matt after the interview, and I
Speaker 1: have talked to Matt and kept my relationship up with him.
Speaker 1: We text from time to time. Well honestly, a lot
Speaker 1: of it is not very deep, but he knows my
Speaker 1: kids went to TCU. There was a lot of TCU
Speaker 1: football text back and forth. We face timed once. My
Speaker 1: relationship with Matt is much more. Again, I have a
Speaker 1: relationship usually with the bachelor the bachelorette, which of course
Speaker 1: Matt was he has my number, I have his. Um.
Speaker 1: Rachel Kirkconnell was one of the cast members. I don't
Speaker 1: have her. Numb her. Um, we're not as close. I
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with Rachel on the show though,
Speaker 1: by the way, and I adore her wonderful, But I
Speaker 1: just I haven't talked to her. I would love to
Speaker 1: and hopefully I will someday. But Matt and I have talked,
Speaker 1: and I would definitely say friendly. We're still friends. UM.
Speaker 1: I am glad that they have made it. Going off
Speaker 1: of that, Stacy's asking how you felt about you losing
Speaker 1: your job and then Matt and Rachel getting back together
Speaker 1: to that upset you at all or how did you feel?
Speaker 1: That sounds like the through line of a soap opera. Um, no,
Speaker 1: not at all. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Me leaving
Speaker 1: the franchise has nothing to do with how I feel
Speaker 1: about Matt and Rachel Kirconnell, which is I want them
Speaker 1: to work. I wanted them to work though, you know,
Speaker 1: going back to the interview, a large part of my
Speaker 1: mindset that day and my heart was on them, was
Speaker 1: caring for and trying to protect that relationship and trying
Speaker 1: to help it, which at the time I knew was struggling,
Speaker 1: and so No, I'm I'm happy. I'm ecstatic that they're together. UM.
Speaker 1: I think it's wonderful that they have found love and
Speaker 1: that they work their way through everything. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: Melissa wants to know if you guys ever went through
Speaker 1: counseling or therapy through this time, individual or as a couple. No,
Speaker 1: we waited to get a podcast so that we could
Speaker 1: get paid for therapy. You know, You're right. We didn't
Speaker 1: think about that at the time, but that's I guess
Speaker 1: that's what we did. No, we didn't go through We
Speaker 1: didn't do any therapy together. Um. Other than every night
Speaker 1: over a bottle of wine. I did a couple sessions
Speaker 1: with a therapist on my own. UM, I don't think
Speaker 1: you did. I forgot about that actually until now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did not. Um, do you ever think about it? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Um. I fully believe in it
Speaker 1: and I love that. I don't know why I didn't
Speaker 1: think to go that route. Um. I don't know. No,
Speaker 1: I but I never did. But I had forgotten that
Speaker 1: you that you have been and Laura and I didn't
Speaker 1: do anything together but are you know. One thing that
Speaker 1: is wonderful and I love about Lauren is she is
Speaker 1: really good at communicating. Sometimes too good, no, but she's
Speaker 1: she's a phenomenal communicator. And we're really good at hashing
Speaker 1: things out, being very raw, being very honest, and however
Speaker 1: heated things can get, we always kind of come back
Speaker 1: together and realize that what we're always talking about is
Speaker 1: our love and our commitment to each other. And so um,
Speaker 1: we had our own little sessions and then you're right,
Speaker 1: I guess sadly we're doing this in to the world
Speaker 1: now on a podcast. You know, as I think about it,
Speaker 1: probably we did not seek therapy for a couple of reasons.
Speaker 1: I think one, we were so nervous. We wanted to
Speaker 1: be so protected at that time, like that inner circle
Speaker 1: of who we could trust was so very small. Um.
Speaker 1: And Two, I think maybe another reason we didn't do
Speaker 1: therapy at the time was it was so intense and
Speaker 1: we were having to make so many decisions day to day.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how I would have explained all
Speaker 1: of that to a therapist at that point. I went
Speaker 1: to a couple of sessions months later, and at that time,
Speaker 1: even then I had kind of a tough time explaining it.
Speaker 1: But I think I've been able to think through it
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I knew what I wanted out
Speaker 1: of those therapy sessions. I knew what I still needed
Speaker 1: answers on and what I still needed help with. And UM,
Speaker 1: so I did do a few sessions at that time.
Speaker 1: And you're right, it was such a fluid situation. It
Speaker 1: was moving so fast and there were how many decisions
Speaker 1: being made every day. There's no way we had the
Speaker 1: time to go catch somebody else up on this and
Speaker 1: figure out how I was feeling about it. It It was
Speaker 1: just you had to go. Um. And so, yeah, the
Speaker 1: only time we could have done it was later. I
Speaker 1: did not, But thank you for the question. This is
Speaker 1: a question for Lauren. Actually, Heather's asking how you were
Speaker 1: treated by e T at the time. ET was great
Speaker 1: to me. They really were, Um, that is a group
Speaker 1: of very supportive people and coworkers. UM. I got messages
Speaker 1: from individual people I got, you know, and people would
Speaker 1: stop me in the halls and and just kind of
Speaker 1: give me some support at that time. UM, and they
Speaker 1: really let me determine how I wanted to move forward,
Speaker 1: um with with doing my recap review show Roses and Rose,
Speaker 1: so I'm very grateful to have had a supportive workplace
Speaker 1: at that time. They were great. You know, I'm wanting
Speaker 1: to know this answer too, and for whoever else wants
Speaker 1: to know, what are your wedding do dells? Do you
Speaker 1: have a date or have you sent out invites or anything?
Speaker 1: We do have an answer, but unfortunately we're out of
Speaker 1: time this week. I'm sorry to do that to you,
Speaker 1: but in all seriousness, we gotta wrap up this week.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Thank you for your questions, responses, comments.
Speaker 1: It has meant the world's Lauren and I truly appreciate it.
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