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Speaker 1: Scarable advice. Shoe's welcome to the Not even Nice Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Shoes Are and it's Thursday, which

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Speaker 1: means our dear friend Mark Loope joins us. Hey, LOOPI

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Speaker 1: are you there? Lippy Lou is here, Loopy lou This

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Speaker 1: little it makes me smile. It's like Daffy Duck. It's

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Speaker 1: just such a fun name. Mark, It's fun, fun, fun. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we've got a ton of g same. So let's jump

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Speaker 1: into the shoe at times. It my friends, it is

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Speaker 1: time T T T. Jennifer Amiston, he's getting troubled as

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Speaker 1: a nepotism baby for calling out stars who are famous

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Speaker 1: for absolutely nothing. So Jennifer, a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 1: make these comments about how the culture is full of

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Speaker 1: influencers and young people. We were all trying to find fame.

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Speaker 1: We know at least four or five of them in

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Speaker 1: every every family. John Mark, you've got those friends and

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Speaker 1: we know who you are, like they want to be

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Speaker 1: instantly famous. So jen who normally is not that controversial,

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Speaker 1: she went on to name celebrities. She named Paris Hilton

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Speaker 1: and Monica Lewinski, and she sort of blamed them for

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Speaker 1: the demise of the culture and fame and the rise

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Speaker 1: of this Internet culture and fame. They were discussing also

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Speaker 1: Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee's sex tape, which is a

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Speaker 1: very unusual topic to talk about with Jennifer Anderston, like

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Speaker 1: she normally Mark does not do this, She's really buttoned up. However,

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Speaker 1: she was talking about it, and she went on to say, quote,

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Speaker 1: it was right at the time when the Internet really

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Speaker 1: shaped a new culture about people becoming famous, this thing

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Speaker 1: of people becoming famous for basically doing nothing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Paris Hilton, Monica Lynsky, all those Mark Jennifers opened up

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Speaker 1: a can of worms. What do you think she really has?

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Speaker 1: You know? And if you listen to this podcast ever,

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Speaker 1: you know I'm a big fan of Jennifer Addison. But

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Speaker 1: I did I did have to read the story multiple

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Speaker 1: times and make sure that the sources were correct, because

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Speaker 1: I'm like, not your jenn this this this is not

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Speaker 1: our jen, Jen, what are you doing? I will I

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Speaker 1: will say she has a point though, Like in the

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Speaker 1: early two thousands, things started to shift and there was

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Speaker 1: press hilted, and then the Kardashians came and suddenly everyone's

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Speaker 1: a blogger and people were becoming famous. But Jen, you

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Speaker 1: sound like out of touch, like this is how the

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Speaker 1: world evolves, like we have to evolve, and and you

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Speaker 1: aren't the only person who's famous. And there are other

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Speaker 1: people who are famous who are not actors. And I'm

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Speaker 1: afraid TikTok stars are our new celebrities. You know. Well

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Speaker 1: a lot of that just feel like this, though they

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Speaker 1: just won't say so. Jenna went on to say that

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Speaker 1: she actually feels like that. She got to taste the

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Speaker 1: industry before it became what it is, and she said,

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Speaker 1: it's different now they're streaming, there's TikTok, there's YouTube, and

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Speaker 1: she said, you can be famous now on Instagram. And

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Speaker 1: she said, get this. I love this because this is

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Speaker 1: the truth. Here what she feels. This is what she feels.

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Speaker 1: She said, quote it's sort of almost like it's diluting

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Speaker 1: our actors jobs. A lot of actors now use that

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Speaker 1: in quotes. A lot of traditional actors hate reality stars

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Speaker 1: because they feel as if they've stole their jobs. So

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Speaker 1: there's only so many hours of TV that's probably changed

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Speaker 1: replaced with Survivor Big Brother The Housewives, So there is

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to wonder, like there's jennifer problem with us

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we're allowed to have a little

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Speaker 1: and they are pointing out that both of Jenn's parents

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Speaker 1: actually jen benefited from nepotism. One person wrote, quote, Jennifer,

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Speaker 1: you're a nepotism baby, and you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: a shady way. She liked somebody that criticized Jen, but

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Speaker 1: though on m face my pages. Sam, I meet you

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Speaker 1: to get back tomorrow to hear your results. Loopy, what

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Speaker 1: are you working on? Yes, so the Amber heard Johnny Depp.

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Speaker 1: Johnny despite total global humiliation. Okay, rob So Amber says, yes, yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: She said, other ugly and toxic marriage. I have no

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Speaker 1: bad feelings or ill will towards him at all. I

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Speaker 1: her accusations. What do you think. I think she's got

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Speaker 1: public support with this interview. Airs on Friday. They're reallys clips, Mark.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? I agree, Rob, you know, just

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Speaker 1: Rob was just Amber do this at this point in time, Like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: good time. Mark. You've worked in TV for a very

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Speaker 1: sued again. Now. A friend of mine told me a

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Speaker 1: friend of mine at NBC said they also wanted to

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Speaker 1: if or the anger, Mark, the anger is not good

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Speaker 1: to live with this anger. No, she's really she's still angry, angry, angry,

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Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to do it today. Oscar Wild

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