1 00:00:06,790 --> 00:00:10,690 Speaker 1: Amy Robach and TJ Holmes present Killer Thriller with your host, 2 00:00:10,869 --> 00:00:11,750 Speaker 1: Elisa Donovan. 3 00:00:14,970 --> 00:00:18,300 Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Elisa Donovan here, and this is Killer Thriller. 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: In Stolen from the Suburbs, a teenage girl, played by 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,780 Speaker 2: Sydney Sweeney, is drugged and abducted into a sex trafficking ring. 6 00:00:27,700 --> 00:00:30,139 Speaker 2: When police fail to help, her mother turns to the 7 00:00:30,260 --> 00:00:33,870 Speaker 2: one person who understands the world her daughter has disappeared into, 8 00:00:33,890 --> 00:00:39,210 Speaker 2: a trafficking survivor named Anna. Brooke Nevin plays Anna, and 9 00:00:39,270 --> 00:00:41,410 Speaker 2: she has said the research she did for the role 10 00:00:41,510 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: was harrowing, opening her eyes to the realities of modern-day 11 00:00:45,659 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: sex trafficking in a way that stayed with her long 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: after filming ended. 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,860 Speaker 1: Today, we are looking at. 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,740 Speaker 2: The terrifying reality behind the movie, how girls are targeted, 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,590 Speaker 2: how traffickers gain control, and what Brooke learned making the 16 00:00:59,650 --> 00:01:02,810 Speaker 2: film that stayed with her long after the cameras stopped rolling. 17 00:01:03,630 --> 00:01:04,150 Speaker 1: Hi, Brooke. 18 00:01:04,209 --> 00:01:06,630 Speaker 2: Welcome to Killer Thriller. Thank you so much for talking 19 00:01:06,670 --> 00:01:07,330 Speaker 2: with me today. 20 00:01:07,610 --> 00:01:08,940 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. 21 00:01:10,819 --> 00:01:12,459 Speaker 2: I am so happy to see your face, I just 22 00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: want to say. So this movie is very intense and 23 00:01:18,940 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: extraordinarily upsetting, but it talks about extraordinarily important things. So 24 00:01:26,610 --> 00:01:30,130 Speaker 2: just quickly, 16-year-old Emma, who's played by Sidney Sweeney, goes 25 00:01:30,170 --> 00:01:34,390 Speaker 2: from living a pretty ordinary suburban life to being drugged 26 00:01:34,530 --> 00:01:38,890 Speaker 2: at a shopping mall and abducted into a sex trafficking operation. 27 00:01:38,990 --> 00:01:42,770 Speaker 2: So when you first read that, did you think, could 28 00:01:42,790 --> 00:01:44,050 Speaker 2: this really happen this way? 29 00:01:44,130 --> 00:01:45,300 Speaker 1: This can't be real. 30 00:01:45,660 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: I knew that my character was based on a real 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,300 Speaker 3: person and a real organization in Los Angeles. The circumstances 32 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: surrounding the abduction of Emma somehow felt larger than life. 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,700 Speaker 3: But then talking to our director and the writer as well, 34 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,540 Speaker 3: Alex Wright, he explained to me that the inspiration for 35 00:02:09,580 --> 00:02:13,030 Speaker 3: this project was indeed based on a real life story 36 00:02:13,070 --> 00:02:15,770 Speaker 3: that hit close to home. And it blew my mind 37 00:02:15,810 --> 00:02:18,930 Speaker 3: because he said that he got the idea for the 38 00:02:18,950 --> 00:02:23,590 Speaker 3: movie because he had received an email from his teenage 39 00:02:23,620 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: daughter's school saying that all the parents should come and 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,010 Speaker 3: pick up their children from school. Because that day, two 41 00:02:31,169 --> 00:02:35,870 Speaker 3: teenage girls from one high school over had been abducted 42 00:02:36,010 --> 00:02:36,870 Speaker 3: on Venice Boulevard. 43 00:02:37,389 --> 00:02:38,010 Speaker 1: Oh, my God. 44 00:02:38,270 --> 00:02:43,690 Speaker 3: So he, you know, obviously that was sitting with him 45 00:02:43,710 --> 00:02:48,190 Speaker 3: and resonating deeply. And he picked up his daughter, held 46 00:02:48,210 --> 00:02:50,190 Speaker 3: her close, and then kind of went down this dark 47 00:02:50,230 --> 00:02:54,250 Speaker 3: rabbit hole of doing research about human trafficking in Los Angeles. 48 00:02:55,210 --> 00:02:58,470 Speaker 3: And he used that information to do a pitch. Yeah. 49 00:02:59,419 --> 00:03:01,900 Speaker 3: for this movie, presented it to producers. They read it 50 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: and they're like, okay, but this doesn't really happen in 51 00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:08,460 Speaker 3: Los Angeles. Right. They're like, this is a great story, 52 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,820 Speaker 3: but really? And then he, um, attached some more news 53 00:03:12,910 --> 00:03:16,010 Speaker 3: articles and they realized that this was, you know, a 54 00:03:16,050 --> 00:03:18,090 Speaker 3: movie that needed a story that needed to be told. 55 00:03:20,270 --> 00:03:23,149 Speaker 2: So how, how far down the rabbit hole did you 56 00:03:23,190 --> 00:03:27,450 Speaker 2: go preparing for this? Were you like, what were you reading, watching? 57 00:03:28,380 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: obviously that is a major source right there, the director. 58 00:03:31,580 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: Well, absolutely. So when I got cast to play Anna, 59 00:03:36,140 --> 00:03:39,140 Speaker 3: I knew right away that she was based on Kim Biddle, 60 00:03:39,220 --> 00:03:43,100 Speaker 3: who is the founder of a nonprofit called Saving Innocence 61 00:03:43,140 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: that has been around since 2010. And so that nonprofit 62 00:03:47,420 --> 00:03:49,860 Speaker 3: was a huge resource for me, but he had also 63 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:55,380 Speaker 3: sent me a lot of information. There's another woman named 64 00:03:55,430 --> 00:03:58,940 Speaker 3: Rachel Lloyd who does advocacy work with victims of sex 65 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: trafficking and has narrowed her focus to include young women and, 66 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,500 Speaker 3: and children. Um, and she wrote a memoir called girls 67 00:04:07,540 --> 00:04:10,870 Speaker 3: like us, which was just so eyeopening. And she herself 68 00:04:11,010 --> 00:04:17,130 Speaker 3: was escaped, um, sex exploitation as a teenager, um, and 69 00:04:17,150 --> 00:04:22,650 Speaker 3: then used that, that trauma and that resilience to become a, 70 00:04:23,670 --> 00:04:27,130 Speaker 3: have a position of amazing advocacy for women in this position. 71 00:04:27,230 --> 00:04:30,100 Speaker 3: So I read her memoir. He sent me like a 72 00:04:30,220 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: whole list of things. I mean, it was like I 73 00:04:32,260 --> 00:04:35,500 Speaker 3: was doing my own sort of deep dive. There are 74 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,550 Speaker 3: a lot of documentaries that really shine a light on 75 00:04:39,779 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: human trafficking, I think we also think that this is, 76 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: this is a overseas problem or. 77 00:04:45,060 --> 00:04:47,340 Speaker 1: A hundred percent. I was just going to say that. 78 00:04:47,380 --> 00:04:49,980 Speaker 3: It's not, it's not in our backyard. And, and yet 79 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,489 Speaker 3: Los Angeles is, was named by, I think by the 80 00:04:52,580 --> 00:04:56,830 Speaker 3: FBI in 2009 as one of the 13 largest centers 81 00:04:56,930 --> 00:05:00,410 Speaker 3: for human trafficking in the U S and, and California 82 00:05:00,470 --> 00:05:06,420 Speaker 3: leads the way, oh gosh, in cases of of children's 83 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,780 Speaker 3: sex trafficking. So it is a huge problem. And, and 84 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,340 Speaker 3: these are not, you know, kids in Cambodia or like immigrant, 85 00:05:15,420 --> 00:05:19,220 Speaker 3: I mean, immigrant populations are definitely vulnerable, but the majority 86 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,700 Speaker 3: of kids that are caught up in sex exploitation are 87 00:05:23,740 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: American citizens here in the U S it's a huge 88 00:05:26,420 --> 00:05:29,550 Speaker 3: domestic hub and, and the demand is here in the 89 00:05:29,650 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: U S. 90 00:05:30,570 --> 00:05:34,339 Speaker 2: I can't like, I, I, I, We cover so many 91 00:05:34,380 --> 00:05:37,220 Speaker 2: things on this podcast that are really disturbing, so I 92 00:05:37,260 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: find myself saying this a lot. But this in particular 93 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: is something, I mean, I just covered John Wayne Gacy, 94 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:51,170 Speaker 2: and I feel like this is more nauseating and more 95 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:56,589 Speaker 2: upsetting than some serial killer behavior, if you can imagine. 96 00:05:56,830 --> 00:06:00,739 Speaker 1: It's so deeply, deeply disturbing. 97 00:06:01,180 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: It's deeply disturbing because you Realize that there are whole swaths, 98 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,980 Speaker 3: whole segments of the population who are willing to pay 99 00:06:09,060 --> 00:06:12,150 Speaker 3: people to get what they want based on the most 100 00:06:12,290 --> 00:06:18,330 Speaker 3: vulnerable sections of our communities. And the numbers are staggering. 101 00:06:18,610 --> 00:06:21,890 Speaker 3: Like every two minutes a child is introduced into the 102 00:06:21,910 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: world of sex trafficking. It doesn't even make sense to me. 103 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,740 Speaker 3: There are 300,000 children in the U.S. right now who 104 00:06:29,540 --> 00:06:37,690 Speaker 3: are victims of human trafficking. Say that number again. 300,000. 105 00:06:37,690 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 3: It doesn't even make sense, right? Like when you think 106 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,820 Speaker 3: of those numbers. And then these children, the average age 107 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,740 Speaker 3: is 13. The average age, right? So we're talking about 108 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,460 Speaker 3: children as young as 7, 8, 9. 109 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,170 Speaker 1: That are being preyed upon. 110 00:06:52,190 --> 00:06:52,610 Speaker 3: Mm. Mm. 111 00:06:59,710 --> 00:07:04,950 Speaker 2: Emma, who is the character who gets abducted, she meets Adam, 112 00:07:05,570 --> 00:07:09,970 Speaker 2: this boy, through her friend Courtney. And Courtney's boyfriend, Johnny, 113 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:14,970 Speaker 2: both of these young men are involved in finding these 114 00:07:15,010 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: women and abducting them. And Adam ultimately gives Emma the 115 00:07:19,860 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: drugged drink. And Emma doesn't even realize that she's in 116 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,460 Speaker 2: danger until she's already in it. 117 00:07:24,740 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: Yes. 118 00:07:26,020 --> 00:07:29,330 Speaker 2: How common is that kind of scenario in the real 119 00:07:29,390 --> 00:07:31,290 Speaker 2: stories that you encountered? 120 00:07:31,850 --> 00:07:36,090 Speaker 3: So the use of psychological manipulation in this case of 121 00:07:36,330 --> 00:07:40,470 Speaker 3: the idea of somebody befriending a girl, whether it's through 122 00:07:41,550 --> 00:07:45,750 Speaker 3: the idea of mentorship or creating a relationship maybe online 123 00:07:45,790 --> 00:07:49,430 Speaker 3: through social media. Unfortunately, a lot of victims of sex 124 00:07:49,470 --> 00:07:55,020 Speaker 3: trafficking are also sold by their own family members. But 125 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,820 Speaker 3: in our story, you know, and we say it in 126 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: the movie, this idea of the Romeo trap where, you know, 127 00:08:03,260 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: girls who are in a place where they need and 128 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,060 Speaker 3: desperately want someone to understand them or support them or, 129 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:15,310 Speaker 3: you know, they'll use techniques like love bombing or promising 130 00:08:15,490 --> 00:08:19,170 Speaker 3: all sorts of things in order to, you know, befriend 131 00:08:19,210 --> 00:08:23,970 Speaker 3: these young women and then using that to slowly erode 132 00:08:24,010 --> 00:08:29,030 Speaker 3: these boundaries and then that coercion replaces trust, right? And, 133 00:08:30,130 --> 00:08:34,350 Speaker 3: you know, we know from all sorts of stories in 134 00:08:34,390 --> 00:08:38,550 Speaker 3: true crime that that psychological coercion and manipulation is a 135 00:08:38,610 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: really powerful mechanism to keep young girls and women trapped. 136 00:08:46,500 --> 00:08:50,950 Speaker 3: And beyond that, I mean, violence is... use. I mean, these, 137 00:08:51,070 --> 00:08:54,290 Speaker 3: these women and young children are obviously held against their, 138 00:08:54,630 --> 00:09:00,350 Speaker 3: their will once, once it becomes, um, their new normal, 139 00:09:00,550 --> 00:09:01,949 Speaker 3: which is a horrible thing too. 140 00:09:02,830 --> 00:09:06,450 Speaker 2: That is something that, yes, that you guys cover in 141 00:09:06,490 --> 00:09:11,410 Speaker 2: this movie, this like very clearly, um, the kind of ringleader, um, 142 00:09:12,170 --> 00:09:14,070 Speaker 2: played by Olivia Diabo, whom I love. 143 00:09:14,330 --> 00:09:15,050 Speaker 1: I adore her. 144 00:09:15,309 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: Um, you know, she simply says straight away, this is 145 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: your new life. So you, you have the, you just 146 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,510 Speaker 2: get used to it. And I thought it was very 147 00:09:26,890 --> 00:09:31,450 Speaker 2: poignant that the, the one character, you know, she believed 148 00:09:31,590 --> 00:09:35,429 Speaker 2: Courtney believed that this man loved her. Like she loved him. 149 00:09:35,450 --> 00:09:39,010 Speaker 2: And even though she's put in this horrific situation in 150 00:09:39,050 --> 00:09:41,939 Speaker 2: that those first moments where she has to be photographed 151 00:09:42,020 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: and she kind of makes that effort to. 152 00:09:46,990 --> 00:09:49,550 Speaker 1: Put her hand on his shoulder like, you know, Johnny, 153 00:09:49,610 --> 00:09:49,990 Speaker 1: it's us. 154 00:09:50,110 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: I thought you loved me, and sort of thinks she can. 155 00:09:53,610 --> 00:09:55,250 Speaker 1: Somehow get it back. 156 00:09:55,250 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: And it's just heartbreaking, that that understanding that she was 157 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,869 Speaker 2: that vulnerable and that. 158 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,150 Speaker 3: Susceptible. Susceptible. 159 00:10:07,610 --> 00:10:12,140 Speaker 2: So the title itself stolen from the suburbs is, is 160 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: almost a warning in itself. 161 00:10:14,300 --> 00:10:16,510 Speaker 1: So was there a misconception that. 162 00:10:16,420 --> 00:10:19,750 Speaker 2: You had about who gets trafficked or where it happens 163 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:23,350 Speaker 2: that was kind of shattered when you started making this movie? 164 00:10:24,730 --> 00:10:27,150 Speaker 3: I would say that, you know, when I started to 165 00:10:27,170 --> 00:10:32,390 Speaker 3: do my research, I certainly didn't understand the scope of how, 166 00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:38,410 Speaker 3: just how many children are victimized. And also, you know, 167 00:10:38,470 --> 00:10:41,190 Speaker 3: reading especially Rachel Lloyd's memoir, it really shines a light 168 00:10:41,429 --> 00:10:45,470 Speaker 3: on You know, we are through, you know, our movie, 169 00:10:46,250 --> 00:10:48,350 Speaker 3: we are using a headline like stolen from the suburbs 170 00:10:48,410 --> 00:10:51,250 Speaker 3: to it's a sort of an attention grabbing headline in 171 00:10:51,290 --> 00:10:53,459 Speaker 3: that it makes it feel like this could happen in 172 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 3: your backyard. And certainly it does. And it can. What 173 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,530 Speaker 3: it doesn't necessarily highlight is that the children and young 174 00:11:02,570 --> 00:11:07,100 Speaker 3: women that are most susceptible are. are coming from other 175 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:11,020 Speaker 3: systemic neglect, right? So we're talking about youth that are 176 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,380 Speaker 3: definitely navigating the foster care system. That is a huge 177 00:11:15,929 --> 00:11:20,410 Speaker 3: portion of the population that's vulnerable, youth of color, LGBTQ, 178 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:27,130 Speaker 3: and then dealing with, you know, unstable homes or domestic abuse, right? 179 00:11:27,170 --> 00:11:30,580 Speaker 3: So these are all layered elements that are going to 180 00:11:30,670 --> 00:11:37,550 Speaker 3: further marginalize communities and make, young people more susceptible to 181 00:11:37,970 --> 00:11:42,610 Speaker 3: being victimized in this way. Yeah. Yeah. 182 00:11:43,450 --> 00:11:50,170 Speaker 2: Were there any real victim stories that became difficult to shake? 183 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: I think the element to me that just stuck out 184 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,740 Speaker 3: in my mind that was just mind boggling to me 185 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: And the reason why the work of somebody like Ken 186 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,100 Speaker 3: Biddle and Rachel Lloyd, their work is so very important 187 00:12:04,179 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: is because they would talk about beginning their, and why 188 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 3: they came into the work that they do. So in 2009, 189 00:12:11,940 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: there was a headline about like 52 youth saved in 190 00:12:16,540 --> 00:12:21,849 Speaker 3: a raid, right? But within this news article, some of 191 00:12:21,890 --> 00:12:23,450 Speaker 3: the youth were as young as 10 and they were 192 00:12:23,490 --> 00:12:27,570 Speaker 3: being described as child prostitutes. Which makes no sense, right? 193 00:12:28,309 --> 00:12:33,690 Speaker 3: So up until the late 90s or early 2000s, the 194 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:37,890 Speaker 3: idea of the phrase human trafficking wasn't even necessarily part 195 00:12:37,929 --> 00:12:42,270 Speaker 3: of the lexicon because there was a misconception that these 196 00:12:42,380 --> 00:12:46,980 Speaker 3: young girls that were portrayed as older because they're pimps 197 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,059 Speaker 3: and traffickers to have told them to lie about their 198 00:12:49,140 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: age or being picked up in sting operations or what 199 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: have you. But we're talking about 12, 13, 14-year-old girls, right? 200 00:12:55,690 --> 00:13:00,390 Speaker 3: who under state law cannot even consent to a sexual act, right? 201 00:13:00,820 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: So in any other circumstance, that would be considered statutory rape, right? 202 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: But because money was exchanged, it's this idea that they're 203 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: then charged with an act of prostitution and they are 204 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 3: being sold by adult men to other adult men that 205 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,969 Speaker 3: we then call, you know, johns. And those men, these 206 00:13:22,050 --> 00:13:25,500 Speaker 3: buyers get like a slap on the wrist, right? and 207 00:13:25,540 --> 00:13:28,260 Speaker 3: go pay a fine or whatever, go off on their way. 208 00:13:28,380 --> 00:13:31,540 Speaker 3: And then these young girls are being sent to juvenile 209 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:37,210 Speaker 3: detention centers instead of being recognized as victims of sex trafficking. 210 00:13:37,630 --> 00:13:38,690 Speaker 3: It's infuriating. 211 00:13:38,710 --> 00:13:47,270 Speaker 2: I cannot process that. Because it's so unfathomable. It's like, 212 00:13:47,309 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: this is clearly so wrong. And I love that your 213 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,990 Speaker 2: character says that. When someone calls them prostitutes and you 214 00:13:55,630 --> 00:13:58,569 Speaker 2: very just clearly say, prostitutes have a choice. 215 00:13:59,590 --> 00:14:00,469 Speaker 1: These are children. 216 00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:05,380 Speaker 3: Exactly. So there have been a number of legislation that 217 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:11,420 Speaker 3: has come out. And one of them was the Trafficking 218 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 3: Victims Protections Act. So that was a federal legislation that 219 00:14:15,220 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: came out in 2000. And then slowly... the perception has changed. 220 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: So in 2008, there was a law that New York 221 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,420 Speaker 3: State was one of the first states that led the 222 00:14:26,460 --> 00:14:31,370 Speaker 3: way in terms of not charging minors with sex crimes, right? 223 00:14:31,430 --> 00:14:34,730 Speaker 3: Treating them as victims. And so Kim Biddle's work and 224 00:14:34,810 --> 00:14:38,210 Speaker 3: advocacy here in California set the stage. But a bill, 225 00:14:39,170 --> 00:14:41,830 Speaker 3: there was a bill, the Senate Bill 1322, it didn't 226 00:14:41,890 --> 00:14:47,510 Speaker 3: come into action until 2017 where they couldn't charge youth 227 00:14:47,530 --> 00:14:48,859 Speaker 3: with sex crimes. 228 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: It's crazy because I think that term, child prostitution, it 229 00:14:55,540 --> 00:14:58,660 Speaker 2: sounds like, oh, right, yeah, right. I've heard that a 230 00:14:58,870 --> 00:15:02,890 Speaker 2: million times in the past without actually thinking. 231 00:15:03,050 --> 00:15:05,850 Speaker 1: It's an impossibility, really. 232 00:15:06,270 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's an impossibility. 233 00:15:08,420 --> 00:15:08,500 Speaker 1: Yeah. 234 00:15:22,450 --> 00:15:27,670 Speaker 2: So Catherine, who is the character of Emma's mom, goes 235 00:15:27,690 --> 00:15:31,110 Speaker 2: to the police for help, but ultimately turns to your character, Anna. 236 00:15:31,610 --> 00:15:35,210 Speaker 2: Did you come across families who faced anything resembling that, 237 00:15:35,250 --> 00:15:37,350 Speaker 2: kind of knowing that their child was in danger, but 238 00:15:37,550 --> 00:15:40,570 Speaker 2: struggling to get people to understand. 239 00:15:40,070 --> 00:15:40,790 Speaker 1: What was happening? 240 00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:47,340 Speaker 3: Well, that theme is certainly something that is very much 241 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: based in real life. And one of the resources that 242 00:15:50,300 --> 00:15:52,540 Speaker 3: the director had sent me was like a it was 243 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,140 Speaker 3: an A & E TV that back when A & 244 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: E was, and they had a lot of amazing, you know, 245 00:15:58,300 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: true crime documentaries. And one of them was, I think 246 00:16:00,780 --> 00:16:03,550 Speaker 3: it was called Runaways, but it was about a group 247 00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:07,670 Speaker 3: of PIs that help parents find their runaways, right? Because 248 00:16:07,710 --> 00:16:11,150 Speaker 3: there is a ticking clock. The first 24 to 72 249 00:16:11,150 --> 00:16:16,100 Speaker 3: hours are crucial in order to find a missing child. And, 250 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:23,989 Speaker 3: you know, the resistance that, Cynthia Watrous's character gets from, from, um, 251 00:16:25,150 --> 00:16:29,310 Speaker 3: the detectives, um, from, from law enforcement is very much 252 00:16:29,390 --> 00:16:33,310 Speaker 3: rooted in the, the uphill battle of, of finding a 253 00:16:33,340 --> 00:16:34,900 Speaker 3: child once they were taken. 254 00:16:35,660 --> 00:16:39,100 Speaker 2: I feel like that is, that is happening in a 255 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,660 Speaker 2: lot of areas just in the last 15 or 20 256 00:16:42,660 --> 00:16:46,990 Speaker 2: years of, you know, that, that, clock of oh you 257 00:16:47,010 --> 00:16:49,890 Speaker 2: can't look for a child until x amount of hours 258 00:16:49,950 --> 00:16:53,110 Speaker 2: because they've just run away you know we're slowly kind 259 00:16:53,150 --> 00:16:57,860 Speaker 2: of starting to understand that that's not really the majority 260 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,540 Speaker 2: of the time uh yeah again it's sort of like 261 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: i can't i can't understand how that isn't i just 262 00:17:05,540 --> 00:17:08,270 Speaker 2: have a hard time understanding how that has not been 263 00:17:08,290 --> 00:17:12,899 Speaker 2: a priority from the beginning but yeah Bureaucracy and a 264 00:17:12,940 --> 00:17:13,980 Speaker 2: bunch of things, I suppose. 265 00:17:14,180 --> 00:17:17,470 Speaker 3: Right. And that's why they threaded in the very real 266 00:17:17,530 --> 00:17:21,670 Speaker 3: organization of NCMEC, which is the National Center for Missing 267 00:17:21,690 --> 00:17:26,410 Speaker 3: and Exploited Children. Exploited Children. Yeah. And so that resource 268 00:17:27,630 --> 00:17:30,969 Speaker 3: is absolutely their integral as a piece of the puzzle 269 00:17:31,010 --> 00:17:33,629 Speaker 3: of trying to find missing children. Right. 270 00:17:33,810 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: So in your film, once Emma is taken, we see 271 00:17:37,300 --> 00:17:41,530 Speaker 2: that it isn't just one predator operating alone. There's an 272 00:17:41,570 --> 00:17:44,970 Speaker 2: entire system that's operating around these girls. So how much 273 00:17:45,010 --> 00:17:46,990 Speaker 2: of that structure is based in reality? 274 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:52,649 Speaker 3: So that is very much based in fact. And, you know, 275 00:17:52,670 --> 00:17:56,290 Speaker 3: when they sting operations happen and, you know, or maybe 276 00:17:56,330 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 3: there's one child that they find in a crisis situation, 277 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,260 Speaker 3: maybe they've had a chance to escape or they find help, 278 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,370 Speaker 3: that child will then often tell law enforcement or point 279 00:18:09,410 --> 00:18:13,770 Speaker 3: the way to other children being victimized. And that's why 280 00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:19,090 Speaker 3: some of these sting operations are so very important because it's, 281 00:18:20,780 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: a lot of this is done in the shadows. Right. 282 00:18:22,660 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: And as, as it's like this, this, this hard element 283 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,100 Speaker 3: is more like it's shone upon this crime. It, it 284 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,629 Speaker 3: moves underground more and more. Right. So I think it's, 285 00:18:35,410 --> 00:18:38,649 Speaker 3: just so important to recognize, you know, the signs of, 286 00:18:39,580 --> 00:18:44,940 Speaker 3: of coercion or, or having ways for victims to, to, 287 00:18:45,180 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: to reach out or find help. It's incredibly important. 288 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:55,030 Speaker 2: What's, what's something about the way that trafficking operations work 289 00:18:55,150 --> 00:18:58,990 Speaker 2: that you had absolutely no idea about before making this film? 290 00:18:59,490 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: There are children as young as what, what is talked 291 00:19:06,060 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 3: about in some of these documentaries it's really hard for 292 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: me to wrap my head around somebody finding any sort 293 00:19:11,859 --> 00:19:15,970 Speaker 3: of power or pleasure in exploiting young children so I 294 00:19:16,730 --> 00:19:20,570 Speaker 3: it especially as a young mom now it it hits 295 00:19:20,590 --> 00:19:22,929 Speaker 3: differently I don't I'm not sure how I would have 296 00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:25,230 Speaker 3: handled the material at the time if I had been 297 00:19:25,250 --> 00:19:28,989 Speaker 3: a mom right and would also I think to me 298 00:19:29,010 --> 00:19:32,460 Speaker 3: what something that gave me a lot of Maybe more 299 00:19:32,580 --> 00:19:36,820 Speaker 3: optimism or just amazed by the resilience of a lot 300 00:19:36,859 --> 00:19:40,850 Speaker 3: of these people that are doing advocacy work is how 301 00:19:40,869 --> 00:19:44,369 Speaker 3: they're able to use what they went through in order 302 00:19:44,530 --> 00:19:48,710 Speaker 3: to help more victims. I think that that level of 303 00:19:48,810 --> 00:19:50,230 Speaker 3: strength just astonished me. 304 00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:54,170 Speaker 2: I have been amazed by that with in particular these 305 00:19:54,210 --> 00:19:58,830 Speaker 2: sorts of cases, but so many things where people use, 306 00:19:59,130 --> 00:20:02,730 Speaker 2: you know, you could say it's a choice. Like when 307 00:20:02,970 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: you go through some trauma, you either totally go inward 308 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,500 Speaker 2: and you sort of give up on life or you 309 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 2: have the opportunity to keep going and try to use 310 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: it in a way that's meaningful and helpful to others. 311 00:20:18,740 --> 00:20:22,109 Speaker 2: And I just feel like that is, I am fiercely 312 00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:26,929 Speaker 2: moved by that, by the, the, the ability of the 313 00:20:27,010 --> 00:20:29,470 Speaker 2: human spirit to continue. 314 00:20:29,710 --> 00:20:30,890 Speaker 1: It's really something. 315 00:20:32,490 --> 00:20:35,459 Speaker 3: It's also something that really intimidated me stepping into the 316 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,260 Speaker 3: shoes of this character, because I felt like I was, 317 00:20:38,890 --> 00:20:43,230 Speaker 3: you know, like an actor emissary for these survivors and 318 00:20:43,330 --> 00:20:47,540 Speaker 3: for the people behind Saving Innocence because my character's card 319 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,740 Speaker 3: literally has their name of their nonprofit, right? So I 320 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:56,220 Speaker 3: felt like I was really trying to represent what they 321 00:20:56,300 --> 00:21:02,350 Speaker 3: do and how they're able, just like these heroic men 322 00:21:02,369 --> 00:21:05,770 Speaker 3: and women who are on the front lines every day. Yeah, 323 00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:07,149 Speaker 3: it's a huge. 324 00:21:08,590 --> 00:21:12,010 Speaker 2: It's a really big responsibility, but I feel like, you know, 325 00:21:13,130 --> 00:21:15,250 Speaker 2: sometimes in this business. 326 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:17,390 Speaker 1: You get to do something that's more important than the 327 00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: actual thing that you're doing, you know? 328 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:24,980 Speaker 2: And that to me always feels like it's just, it's, 329 00:21:25,260 --> 00:21:28,859 Speaker 2: it's a great, it's a beautiful thing. 330 00:21:29,260 --> 00:21:33,190 Speaker 3: It gives a much deeper meaning to the idea of 331 00:21:33,530 --> 00:21:36,230 Speaker 3: art and what art is for. Yep. 332 00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:39,649 Speaker 1: And that sometimes, you know, many, Elizabeth Smart has said it. 333 00:21:41,090 --> 00:21:44,350 Speaker 2: Several, I interviewed Skeet Ulrich because he made her movie 334 00:21:44,430 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 2: about her life. And, you know, she said, you know, 335 00:21:50,420 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: when people would ask her, why do this? Like, why 336 00:21:53,859 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: tell this horrible story about yourself? You know, and she said, 337 00:21:58,380 --> 00:22:02,710 Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing, I'm not quoting Elizabeth. But, you know, essentially the, 338 00:22:03,210 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: that sometimes as a society we're able to digest and 339 00:22:06,740 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: really empathize and understand something through story rather than a 340 00:22:11,740 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: narrative rather than just reading an article somewhere and it's 341 00:22:15,940 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: like a way in for us to metabolize and really. 342 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,270 Speaker 3: Understand and as much as you know the idea of 343 00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: Sydney Sweeney's character, you know, being an upper middle class 344 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 3: young woman who looks like Sydney Sweeney, you know, she's 345 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:39,370 Speaker 3: absolutely still give this just amazing vulnerable and harrowing performance 346 00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:42,429 Speaker 3: that we hope, you know, creates this visceral emotion in 347 00:22:42,510 --> 00:22:46,190 Speaker 3: audiences so that they pay attention. Right. So that's really 348 00:22:46,210 --> 00:22:49,770 Speaker 3: the most important element of the story is, is, is 349 00:22:49,869 --> 00:22:54,419 Speaker 3: shining a spotlight on the issue at large. And then 350 00:22:54,460 --> 00:22:58,670 Speaker 3: people can choose to engage with those facts and, how 351 00:22:58,710 --> 00:23:02,270 Speaker 3: they can and metabolize that information and then, and then 352 00:23:02,450 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: go deeper with it by either supporting organizations or at 353 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 3: least being aware as parents, like what grooming techniques exist, 354 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,900 Speaker 3: you know? Yep. I think one of the things that 355 00:23:16,980 --> 00:23:20,300 Speaker 3: hit me was, you know, the way that they decorated 356 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,700 Speaker 3: the sort of the hub for saving innocence in the movie. 357 00:23:23,740 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 3: And you see all of these missing children posters. And 358 00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:28,210 Speaker 3: I think they were really trying to bring home like 359 00:23:28,250 --> 00:23:33,810 Speaker 3: there are so many missing kids that haven't been found 360 00:23:35,490 --> 00:23:36,369 Speaker 3: and are still missing. 361 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:55,300 Speaker 2: Were there moments on set when you like everybody, you 362 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: just needed to decompress after what you filmed or like, how, 363 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,380 Speaker 2: how was that? 364 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,500 Speaker 1: Did things stay with you? Are you able to like 365 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,859 Speaker 1: step in and out of it or? 366 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,790 Speaker 3: Definitely what stayed with me was the research and, you know, 367 00:24:10,810 --> 00:24:14,730 Speaker 3: stepping into the shoes of my characters. I also wanted 368 00:24:14,770 --> 00:24:18,260 Speaker 3: to honor it in a way with Anna where, she 369 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 3: brought that trauma with her, but it was also not 370 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: the focal point of the story, right? It was part 371 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 3: of her backstory, but the, you know, the emergency, the 372 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,460 Speaker 3: crisis at hand was sort of still in the forefront. 373 00:24:29,820 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: So it was sort of like trying to, to layer 374 00:24:33,420 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 3: all those elements. I mean, and Cynthia gave such a 375 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:43,050 Speaker 3: dialed in urgent performance that it was, it was like, 376 00:24:44,670 --> 00:24:47,290 Speaker 3: easy to feel the stakes of the story and it 377 00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:51,899 Speaker 3: felt very real life. And, you know, our, our director, 378 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,460 Speaker 3: it was also wonderful at keeping the pace and the 379 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,580 Speaker 3: stakes alive, but also keeping a very like calm and 380 00:25:01,420 --> 00:25:04,889 Speaker 3: respectful set, you know? Yeah. 381 00:25:04,910 --> 00:25:09,870 Speaker 2: I mean, it's an incredibly fine line of, you know, 382 00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:15,810 Speaker 2: reenacting these things and like it's dealing with such difficult 383 00:25:15,850 --> 00:25:20,100 Speaker 2: subject matter. It's a really, it's a big challenge to be, 384 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 2: to figure out how to do those things without being 385 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,940 Speaker 2: exploitative while still, you know, forcing the audience to deal 386 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,020 Speaker 2: with difficult things. 387 00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:33,020 Speaker 1: You know, that's a real, it's a challenge for sure. 388 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,060 Speaker 2: And I could definitely feel, you know, I didn't know 389 00:25:36,140 --> 00:25:39,500 Speaker 2: before we started talking that you, that your character in 390 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: particular was based on a real person, then all those things. 391 00:25:42,060 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: And I felt all of the, you just do a 392 00:25:45,740 --> 00:25:49,940 Speaker 2: beautiful job because it feels very nuanced. It feels very deep, 393 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: but it feels very grounded without still having the urgency, 394 00:25:54,580 --> 00:25:58,060 Speaker 2: you know, like your character doesn't have the same emotional 395 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:03,340 Speaker 2: response as Cynthia's because it's not your child, but there's 396 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,510 Speaker 2: still the understanding that you truly get from like the 397 00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:11,250 Speaker 2: depth of what this is. And that's also, you know, 398 00:26:11,270 --> 00:26:13,370 Speaker 2: it's kudos to you because that's also not easy to do. 399 00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:15,710 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. Yeah. I felt like it was very 400 00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:19,189 Speaker 3: important for me to, to bring this element of Anna 401 00:26:19,290 --> 00:26:22,860 Speaker 3: where she is the sort of grounding force within all 402 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,450 Speaker 3: the elements of, of chaos and the stakes and the piecing. 403 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,580 Speaker 3: Because this is, this is in some ways her everyday 404 00:26:31,619 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 3: and these, these men and women have to have this, 405 00:26:35,250 --> 00:26:38,389 Speaker 3: sort of amazing sense of resilience to be able to 406 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:45,340 Speaker 3: approach these stories with so much empathy and compassion. 407 00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:48,980 Speaker 2: Did you, when the movie aired, did you hear from 408 00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:53,300 Speaker 2: anyone who had actually experienced trafficking or did you meet 409 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,659 Speaker 2: any survivors before or? 410 00:26:55,390 --> 00:26:59,899 Speaker 3: I met survivors that have now become, you know, adults, um, uh, 411 00:26:59,980 --> 00:27:04,380 Speaker 3: certainly through many of the, um, social workers and advocates 412 00:27:04,619 --> 00:27:09,379 Speaker 3: within saving innocence, um, went to, you know, some of 413 00:27:09,420 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: their fundraising events and these, these amazing people told stories. 414 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 3: And then we heard, you know, a lot of stories 415 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:20,270 Speaker 3: from the special task forces within LAPD that, uh, that 416 00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:23,909 Speaker 3: are trained to deal specifically in these sting operations and 417 00:27:23,930 --> 00:27:28,420 Speaker 3: to recover missing children. Um, you know, the sex crime 418 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,420 Speaker 3: unit and it may, I can't imagine, but there was this, 419 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: this amazing, you know, synergy, um, between law enforcement and 420 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: social workers and now, um, the, the, the justice system, um, 421 00:27:44,940 --> 00:27:49,580 Speaker 3: what struck me was, And how important it is for 422 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 3: these elements to all be working together as you realize, 423 00:27:52,140 --> 00:27:56,939 Speaker 3: you know, a project like Saving Innocence, they're sort of 424 00:27:56,980 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 3: a full, you know, crisis intervention, advocacy, and then restoration 425 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,050 Speaker 3: services for these young children, right? So get them out 426 00:28:07,070 --> 00:28:11,290 Speaker 3: of these traumatic situations, but then it's a really long 427 00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:16,050 Speaker 3: journey ahead where they're there to give constant support, to 428 00:28:16,109 --> 00:28:20,530 Speaker 3: help rebuild their sense of self and identity and to 429 00:28:22,130 --> 00:28:24,020 Speaker 3: let them know that they are worthy of being loved 430 00:28:24,060 --> 00:28:27,580 Speaker 3: and worthy of following their dreams and having a life 431 00:28:28,220 --> 00:28:33,660 Speaker 3: that they want and to graduate high school and maybe 432 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,100 Speaker 3: go on to college. So what was incredible to me 433 00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:41,820 Speaker 3: was these advocates being there for these children who then 434 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,550 Speaker 3: have to build a sense of courage and trust again, 435 00:28:46,970 --> 00:28:51,310 Speaker 3: because part of making our community safer is making sure 436 00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:56,860 Speaker 3: that these buyers and these traffickers get put away. Yes. 437 00:28:57,230 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: And so they're layering these charges against them on both 438 00:29:01,940 --> 00:29:05,700 Speaker 3: state and federal levels. But some of these cases can 439 00:29:05,740 --> 00:29:08,540 Speaker 3: take four to five years, right? And so these children, 440 00:29:09,620 --> 00:29:11,740 Speaker 3: once they've built this sense of trust and courage and 441 00:29:11,780 --> 00:29:15,300 Speaker 3: have a team of people now supporting them, they can 442 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,260 Speaker 3: face their perpetrators in court. And those testimonies are so 443 00:29:20,420 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: integral to building cases against these people so that they 444 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,740 Speaker 3: go away for a really long time. Right. 445 00:29:26,490 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: Gosh, that piece cannot be underestimated, how vital that is. 446 00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: So it isn't just getting the child out of the situation. 447 00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:39,550 Speaker 2: Everything doesn't magically now go well for this person. No. 448 00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: Of course not. 449 00:29:39,980 --> 00:29:44,459 Speaker 2: There's so much rehabilitation that is required and so much care. 450 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:51,870 Speaker 2: And I'm so happy to know about this organization, which 451 00:29:51,930 --> 00:29:54,830 Speaker 2: truly was introduced to me because of this film. 452 00:29:54,850 --> 00:29:55,350 Speaker 3: Always. 453 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: I love to hear that. 454 00:29:56,700 --> 00:30:05,310 Speaker 2: I was not aware of this particular organization. So if 455 00:30:05,490 --> 00:30:09,290 Speaker 2: somebody watches this movie and thinks, terrifying, but this couldn't 456 00:30:09,310 --> 00:30:11,970 Speaker 2: happen to someone in my neighborhood, what would you say? 457 00:30:12,990 --> 00:30:16,710 Speaker 3: I would simply say it can. Yeah. 458 00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:20,100 Speaker 1: That's the sad reality. 459 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,260 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, yeah. 460 00:30:25,220 --> 00:30:28,750 Speaker 2: Stolen from Suburbia, or Stolen from the Suburbs, it seems 461 00:30:28,770 --> 00:30:33,550 Speaker 2: to have two names, is streaming online. Brooke, I'm so 462 00:30:33,770 --> 00:30:36,330 Speaker 2: happy that I had this opportunity to talk with you. 463 00:30:36,350 --> 00:30:37,190 Speaker 1: Thank you. 464 00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: We know each other through very happy, happy channels. 465 00:30:40,860 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: And connections, yes. 466 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,540 Speaker 2: Like throwing baby showers at it through very dear friends. 467 00:30:47,380 --> 00:30:49,940 Speaker 2: I just, I'm so happy to see your face and 468 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to know the depth. 469 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,140 Speaker 1: Of the work that you're doing here. And I just, 470 00:30:56,340 --> 00:30:58,020 Speaker 1: I'm happy to know you. 471 00:30:58,380 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: Thank you. That means a lot to me. I really, 472 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,810 Speaker 3: really appreciate it. And I, you know, as an actor, 473 00:31:03,970 --> 00:31:05,890 Speaker 3: you know, you only hope that you can do work 474 00:31:06,350 --> 00:31:08,209 Speaker 3: that the whole purpose of it is to shine the 475 00:31:08,250 --> 00:31:12,370 Speaker 3: spotlight back again on the types of people that are 476 00:31:12,410 --> 00:31:16,470 Speaker 3: living through the real trauma and overcoming that. And those 477 00:31:16,540 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: stories feed into the drama of what we get to 478 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 3: put on the screen. So I'm hoping that this story 479 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: gets continuously seen by people who can open their eyes 480 00:31:26,740 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: to the scope of this problem, but also what's possible 481 00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 3: in terms of supporting organizations that help make it better. 482 00:31:34,620 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: Right. Help end it. 483 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,620 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. All right. 484 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,030 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Brooke. 485 00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:42,570 Speaker 3: Thank you. It's great to see you. You as well.