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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where last Christmas I gave you

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Speaker 1: my heart. Very next day you took it away. I'm

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Speaker 1: Greg rosenthalm here in the Chris Westling podcast studio with

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Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrigue of The Athletic, and Yeah, that song just

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Speaker 1: is not getting out of my head. So that's why

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Speaker 1: I started the show with it. Jordan rodrig I've never

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Speaker 1: seen you in such a bubbly good mood. You were

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Speaker 1: a holiday person and your your twin sister is in town.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a holiday person, but this year you are.

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Speaker 3: Maddie's here, Maddie's here, she's off the boat.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for you. I can I can only imagine

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Speaker 1: what it's like to see your twin after a long

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Speaker 1: time connecting. That's what this time of year is all about.

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Speaker 1: And so we're gonna try to be concise. It's it's tough.

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Speaker 1: Our producer had some doubts that we can get through

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Speaker 1: this show in under an hour, but I believe in us.

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Speaker 1: We started the show NFL Daily, our first ever show.

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Speaker 1: You were there with me and Patrick Clayband and we

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Speaker 1: talked about what's gonna give us joy in the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four season. So now as we're winding down, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna look back a little bit and just quickly go

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Speaker 1: through the AFC. We each have teams and talk about

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Speaker 1: what what brought us some joy in this season. We're

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Speaker 1: also going to preview the Netflix games on Christmas that

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Speaker 1: feels like it's just about to start, and then T

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Speaker 1: and F Seattle and Chicago we'll talk about that, and

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Speaker 1: then hopefully our elves are working on a zoom connection

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Speaker 1: with one of our favorite people to end the show.

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Speaker 1: So I hope we can make it happen, and maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll even hear from some of our listeners you ready

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Speaker 1: to do it?

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Speaker 3: And we both wore our hopefully special guests favorite color

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Speaker 3: because it's the color of her football team.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Greg and I.

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Speaker 3: Accidentally, if you're watching on YouTube, you'll notice Greg and

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Speaker 3: I actually were accidentally were the same outfit today.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's the same like you.

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Speaker 3: Got swoopies, I've got swoopees, you know. But I'll say

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Speaker 3: the person who topped us both in the outfits today

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Speaker 3: is our producer Eric behind the Glass, who's wearing what

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Speaker 3: I'm told is his second best Santa Cat sweater.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I have actually have two cat sweaters Christmas hats,

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Speaker 4: and this is number two of.

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Speaker 1: My Santa cats. And one thing I love about Eric

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Speaker 1: and Randy, who has moved on to a there was

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Speaker 1: a better job, is they love all animals. They're not

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Speaker 1: trying to divide the world between cats and dogs like

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Speaker 1: you're for You're for both, right.

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Speaker 4: I actually have a dog, no cats, but I grew

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Speaker 4: up in a house full of them. I have like

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Speaker 4: four dogs and two cats at one time. Sands, my

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Speaker 1: I'm team cat and dog. Why why can't you love

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Speaker 1: them both? Let's not divide it.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the effort of the group behind the glass

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Speaker 3: to at first try to stay out of the shop,

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Speaker 3: but then then immediately lean into it. As you guys,

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Speaker 3: everybody needs some shy everybody's working on this Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 2: Everyone does such a great job.

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Speaker 3: One thing that has brought me joy is this year

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Speaker 3: is how kind everyone everyone has been. And that starts

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Speaker 3: with everyone behind the glass, and then slowly you bring

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Speaker 1: I will I was like, that doesn't include me, But

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little, yes about what brings us joy?

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Speaker 1: And like I said, there's been some doubts whether the

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Speaker 1: the AFC. I hope to do this again next Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: I'll see you next Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: That's absolutely right, and Colleen Wolf should be there as well.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you start with the Ravens. What's given you

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Speaker 3: Derek m e fing Henry Okay has brought me joy

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Speaker 3: all season. King Henry now in purple, a color reserved royalty. Historically,

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Speaker 3: way this is like the ten Things I Like about

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Speaker 3: The way if he gets even a little steam, he

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Speaker 2: What joy?

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Speaker 1: I love that two all time greats bringing out the

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Speaker 1: Is this I, by the way, should have mentioned Eric

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Speaker 1: Hamlin in his story. This year gives me joy because

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Speaker 1: to me, he is a better candidate for the Comeback

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year or this season than he was

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Speaker 1: last season. And everything that he's gotten over as a

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Speaker 1: He was a year to year type of player, and

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Speaker 1: guaranteed himself many more years in the league a second contract.

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Speaker 1: So he's kind of representing all those different types of

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Speaker 1: overcome more than most. But it's also really cool to

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Speaker 1: Really cool.

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Speaker 2: I love that one.

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Speaker 3: He's having a great year and he overcame literally death.

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Speaker 3: So love this for him. This arc for him is

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Speaker 1: Well said Greg, and I had to I had to

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Speaker 1: not even bring up James Cook's running style, which is

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Speaker 1: just so cool that him and Dalvin are the exact

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Speaker 3: Hit me with the Bengals, Cincinnati Bengals, it's the season

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Speaker 3: of like insane offensive lineman gifts by quarterbacks to their

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Speaker 3: offensive line. Joe Burrow gave his offensive line authentic samurai

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Speaker 3: swords obtained from an armory in California, some of them

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Speaker 3: an explanation from Joe Burrow. Oh wow, joyful gift that

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Speaker 3: he bequeathed upon his offensive line. Used an old word

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Speaker 1: Well, they wanted gons.

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Speaker 4: I was know about guns, guys, and so I was

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Speaker 4: in the weapon mindset and I was Michael, what's a

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Speaker 5: Sam My swords?

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Speaker 1: Pretty dank cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's giving me Dwight Shrewd energy. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: when he really means business, he takes off the mustard

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Speaker 1: That's all he's got with the beautiful hair. I absolutely

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Speaker 1: of these wooden sort of blocks with with Japanese lettering

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Speaker 1: and so like, I know, what a what a great

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Speaker 1: not a great season for the Browns, but I am

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Speaker 1: happy that Jerry Judy is becoming the player that a

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Speaker 1: lot of us Jerry Judy fans coming into the draft

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Speaker 1: and he creates big time separation and him and jamis

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Speaker 1: the fact that he did this after the Jets didn't

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Speaker 1: That's just a little extra sprinkle that you get here

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Speaker 1: for the holidays. So Jerry Judy brought me some joy

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Speaker 1: this year, fulfilling his potential. A nice little contract they

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Speaker 3: Loved his tweet and also Madden's tweet about this situation.

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Speaker 3: Little great teamwork over there. So I've got Denver. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 3: of well one Patrick certain the second akaps two AKA

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Speaker 3: still one of the best cornerbacks in the league. Who

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Speaker 3: League right now. This is more tape than you've seen

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Speaker 2: And it's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: The quarterbacks are not targeting him because when he has

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Speaker 3: Pat certain Is was and should be a Defensive Player

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Speaker 3: and he brings me joy. Watching him play brings me

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance to win it. It's

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Speaker 1: so wide open this year. We talked about how there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be ballots where you have to pick five players.

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Speaker 1: I believe he'll be on yeah, a lot of those ballots.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance if he happened to

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Speaker 5: I man, I'm changing his name to Beast. He's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we could all use a Jim Harbaugh in our

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Speaker 1: I like joy.

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Speaker 3: I truly am finding joy this year watching you Greg

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Speaker 1: As twenty nineteen has brought me joy. That last Brady

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Speaker 1: But what I would say to Jets fans, is you

438
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Speaker 1: made a good pick in a class with all these

439
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: great receivers. Olufashanu showed enough down the stretch that you

440
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 1: got one right at left tackle. And I do find

441
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 1: it ironic that Joe Douglas, their GM, spent all this

442
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: time before they let him go, just desperately trying to

443
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: build a good offensive line and mostly failing. And I

444
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 1: got to say their offensive line right now looks better

445
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Speaker 1: than it's looked at any point now. I hope the

446
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Speaker 1: next staff can keep it going, but they'll have a

447
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Speaker 1: really good young left tackle that spot. Not taking the

448
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Speaker 1: receiver when Bowers and other people are on the board

449
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: was very tricky to get it right. I think they

450
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Speaker 1: got it right, and they're going to have a dude

451
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Speaker 1: for a long time, So that's good news for the Jets.

452
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Speaker 1: I can't say they've given me a lot of joy

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Speaker 1: this year. That's just being right.

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Speaker 2: I think that's very fair. Yeah, that is fair fair.

455
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Speaker 1: I don't think they've given their fans a lot of joy.

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Speaker 2: I have the Pittsburgh Steelers Cam Hayward.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of joy I think that

458
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Speaker 3: to be found in Pittsburgh this year. Including all of

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Speaker 3: the Mike Tomlin decisions, and also just how every Pittsburgh

460
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Speaker 3: Steelers player seems to be like a perfect fit for

461
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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers, which is awesome. But Cam Hayward's having

462
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Speaker 3: a remarkable season that brings me a lot of joy.

463
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Speaker 3: He has eight sacks, But where he is especially making

464
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Speaker 3: a difference is in their run defense, where that defense

465
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Speaker 3: is eighth and total yards allowed this season seventh yards

466
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Speaker 3: per carry. Just gave up one hundred and sixty two

467
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Speaker 3: on the ground to our king Derrick Henry. But per

468
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Speaker 3: Next Gen stats, the Steelers defense has allowed over two

469
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Speaker 3: more full yards per carry on average when Cam Hayward

470
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Speaker 3: is off the field versus when he is on the field.

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Speaker 3: This season, it goes from three point four yards per

472
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Speaker 3: carry allowed when he's off the field when he's on

473
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Speaker 3: the field to a whopping five point six yards per

474
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Speaker 3: carry allowed when he is off the field.

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Speaker 2: That's astounding.

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Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the year, let's push for it. I

477
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Speaker 1: think he might be my choice right now. It's a stranger.

478
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: James Harrison wanted in a stranger. Roll Suggs when he

479
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: won it, that was a stranger. Stefan Gilmore pulled it off.

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Speaker 1: There's not an obvious choice. I think TJ. Watt's a

481
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Speaker 1: bad choice because I think just this isn't his worst

482
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Speaker 1: year out of the last five. I know he has

483
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Speaker 1: a lot of sacks. Cam Hayward is a really good choice.

484
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Speaker 1: I think he could be defensive Player of the year.

485
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Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up with the Titans. Now, you know

486
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Speaker 1: what's not giving me joy is that Jordan gave me

487
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Speaker 1: all these bad teams.

488
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Speaker 2: I just went ala as I was going through.

489
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Speaker 1: It last The last five teams that we've talked about

490
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: have a combined twenty and fifty five record. I was like,

491
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Speaker 1: is she setting me up? I think she was. And

492
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: yet you know what's given me joy? Even even in

493
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: dark situations, you can find some positives. This kid to

494
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Speaker 1: and Andre Sweat. I know he came into the draft

495
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Speaker 1: with a lot of problems. I'm not ignoring those, but

496
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Speaker 1: just on the field, a guy that all the draft

497
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: knicks thoughts on the field was going to be a

498
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: bust and was super overrated and they didn't like his

499
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Speaker 1: effort and all this. I watched him, there's a lot

500
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Speaker 1: of effort. I love a three hundred and sixty five

501
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: seventy pound guy. Who is just throwing people around. He

502
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: could be in the mix for a defensive Rookie of

503
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Speaker 1: the Year if we gave Nosti any love, because in

504
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Speaker 1: terms of a foundational piece on the defensive side of

505
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Speaker 1: the ball, he has has been as good as any

506
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: and he is just incredibly strong. So when you put

507
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Speaker 1: on that Titans All twenty two, you get a little

508
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: Pollard who's been really good, powerful, but sweat really stands out.

509
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Speaker 1: So I did it. I came up with stuff to

510
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: love about every single team. You know what else I love?

511
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Speaker 2: Can you guess the color green?

512
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Speaker 1: That we did it? That highte them and Eric didn't

513
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Speaker 1: think we could get through this segment quickly. You know,

514
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Speaker 1: you only gave me the sound, you know, as a

515
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Speaker 1: sort of a bit.

516
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Speaker 2: I thought it was real.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to break with that sound it is. It

518
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Speaker 1: is Christmas time. Let's talk a little Netflix game preview

519
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Speaker 1: and little TNF after the break.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love Eric always plays the great rock

521
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Speaker 3: Christmas music for me.

522
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Speaker 1: I love it. It is amazing.

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Speaker 2: Can Rama trucks today?

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Speaker 1: You know we're in a joyful spirit. You guys tried

525
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: to take me out of it by saying I was

526
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Speaker 1: honking about Drake may. I saw what you all were doing,

527
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Speaker 1: and I didn't want to give you satisfaction. Now I'm

528
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Speaker 1: really looking forward to these games. They're taking over the

529
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Speaker 1: building the Netflix people because they're working out of an

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Speaker 1: NFL Network studios. So just downstairs you ran into who

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees.

532
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Speaker 3: And RG three, Robert Griffin third, you know the whole

533
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Speaker 3: crew is coming in.

534
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Speaker 2: You ran into one of the goats and legs.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Icon saw our friend Mina Kimes just as

536
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Speaker 1: I was walking up to the studio. She was walking

537
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Speaker 1: down there doing some rehearsals. So everyone check out the

538
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Speaker 1: two games. It's gonna be fun. Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens Texans.

539
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Speaker 1: When they set these games up, they figured there's no

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Speaker 1: way that these games could be stinkers, and it does

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Speaker 1: turn out they are two of the best games of

542
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Speaker 1: the week. Only so many good games. We've got Minnesota

543
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Speaker 1: Green Bay on Sunday, but these two games mean so much.

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Speaker 1: It is crazy to think, Jordan, let's start with the

545
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Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Steelers. That's a one pm Eastern kickoff.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy to think. And we're taping this on Christmas

547
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Speaker 1: eve Day. That in roughly twenty four hours Patrick Mahomes

548
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Speaker 1: could be done playing football until the divisional round of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Rip everybody else, right, because.

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Speaker 1: They if they can win this game and clinch home field,

552
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: you gotta think that they're gonna rest him in week eighteen.

553
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Speaker 1: Then they have the buye. That's a conversation for another day,

554
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: but big time steaks for them, and big time stakes

555
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Speaker 1: for the Steelers who are trying to win the division

556
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Speaker 1: and trying to get a home game. They are tied

557
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Speaker 1: right now with the Ravens at ten and five.

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Speaker 3: I really like the stakes of this game because it's

559
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs, who I'm not trying to be dramatic here

560
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Speaker 3: because fourteen to one like nothing to sneeze at. Like

561
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Speaker 3: they've already shown that they are going to have a

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Speaker 3: strong season. But after this last week, the Chiefs have arrived,

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Speaker 3: I think fully because that was one of their most

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Speaker 3: complete looking offensive performances where they had multiple layers of

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Speaker 3: an offense actually running. Patrick Mahomes was incredibly efficient playing

566
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Speaker 3: through that ankle injury, and he was getting the ball

567
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Speaker 3: out fast and he was moving.

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Speaker 2: They were moving this offense.

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Speaker 3: They were amassing I think you pointed this out, a

570
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Speaker 3: significant number of yards per play that would have led

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Speaker 3: the league in most other weeks.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are here.

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Speaker 3: They are scary, they are not fluky if they continue

574
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Speaker 3: in this way, and this is a Steelers team that

575
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: has its back sort of creeping toward the wall a

576
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 3: little bit. They really need to snap out of this.

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Speaker 3: They need George Pickens back, we'll talk about that. Looks

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Speaker 3: like he's going to be back. Might be missing Joey

579
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Speaker 3: Porter Junior, which is going to be a tough loss

580
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Speaker 3: because that means they'll have to play at least one

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Speaker 3: backup corner even if Dante Jackson comes back. This is

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Speaker 3: kind of a bit of a crunch time situation for

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Speaker 3: the Steelers, who kind of tend to show up in crunch.

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Speaker 1: Time, right. I think they're going to respond in this game,

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Speaker 1: but they haven't been beating the allegations. We said their

586
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: schedule is gonna get really hard down the stretch, and

587
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: for the most part, they stood up to it. But

588
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: last two weeks they've lost by two touchdowns to two

589
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Speaker 1: of the best teams in the NFL and back to

590
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: back weeks. So I do think they respond in this game,

591
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: and it's going to help that they get according to

592
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Speaker 1: the injury report, Deshaun Elliott, who's been really valuable for

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Speaker 1: them at safety, back, George Pickens, who I don't need

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Speaker 1: to go on, but he clearly is kind of the

595
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Speaker 1: Jenga piece for that offense, and then Dante Jackson at cornerback,

596
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Speaker 1: who really hasn't played that well, but he is a starter.

597
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: And with Joey Porter Junior probably out for this game,

598
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Speaker 1: so they are getting some people back. Chris Jones hasn't

599
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Speaker 1: been practicing, that's something to keep an eye on. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's just because of the strange week, but he obviously

601
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Speaker 1: would be a massive, massive loss for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because George Pickens being such a crucial

603
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Speaker 3: part and a crucial element of this offense. Obviously, it's

604
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Speaker 3: not just about the place he can make, but the

605
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Speaker 3: space that he creates, the extra room on the field

606
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Speaker 3: in general. When you have someone who can stretch the

607
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: field like that, who is being targeted and is a threat,

608
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Speaker 3: then you just open up a lot more grass for

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Speaker 3: everybody to work on, right, and that would help the

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Speaker 3: run game in turn. But what I think is concerning

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Speaker 3: about the Steelers in general and the way that they

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Speaker 3: are playing football. As exciting as it's been as correct

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Speaker 3: as they've been in a lot of the decisions they've

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Speaker 3: made this year. When so much of your offense hinges

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Speaker 3: on one of the lower probability plays that you can make,

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Speaker 3: which is the deep shot or the mid to deep

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Speaker 3: range pass play, when so much of your offense is

618
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Speaker 3: success and explosiveness is predicated on making that play, and

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Speaker 3: it looks this different without and they moved the ball

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Speaker 3: well last week, I will give them that, but they're

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Speaker 3: not running the ball efficiently. Even though they're trying to

622
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Speaker 3: run the ball and they load up in heavy personnel

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Speaker 3: a lot, they're still not running the ball statistically efficiently

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Speaker 3: in it.

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Speaker 2: And you could see that on the tape as well.

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Speaker 3: It's like a style over substance situation, and they need

627
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: to be more complete when immersing, like getting infusing that

628
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Speaker 3: substance into the middle parts of their offense.

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Speaker 2: And when the.

630
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Speaker 3: Deep shot is back, that's great, but you cannot hinge

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Speaker 3: your offense on one of the lower probability plays.

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Speaker 1: And the yet you know they're counting on him, and

633
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Speaker 1: Calvin Austin's played well for them. I think he's a

634
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Speaker 1: legitimate piece in Van Jefferson stuff. It's like that's just

635
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Speaker 1: who they are, and yet Russ Russ. It's funny. I

636
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: actually thought he had one of his best games of

637
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Speaker 1: the season last week, except for the turnovers, whereas I

638
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: feel like he had gotten a little too much credit

639
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: over the course of the season when he hasn't always

640
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Speaker 1: been playing his best. So it's just funny how that works.

641
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Speaker 1: So they're going to need him to play well against

642
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Speaker 1: this defense, which which has played better. We do have

643
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Speaker 1: some updates on the injury report. The official one is out.

644
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: Joey Porter Junior is officially out, but everyone else that

645
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Speaker 1: they were worried about is not even on the injury

646
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Speaker 1: report anymore, so that's important. Chris Jones is questionable after

647
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Speaker 1: being limited UH on Tuesday, and so you would expect

648
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: that he would play. Same thing with Juwan Taylor. They

649
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: won't have DJ Humphreys back, so it's going to be

650
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Speaker 1: Joe Toney again at left tackle. I thought he's played

651
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: pretty well and Chamari Connor, who at their slot position

652
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: could be victimized because this is not a deep secondary.

653
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Speaker 1: They've moved Trent McDuffie back to the slot the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks and that has been huge because he

655
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Speaker 1: wasn't that great on the outside, and so you were

656
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: hurting two positions and now at least you have an

657
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: all pro slot defender and you're just better because of that.

658
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 3: So well, they use that logic when they move Joe

659
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: Toney too. They're technically hurting their interior a bit by

660
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: moving Joe Tony. But now, want to make more sense

661
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: to me, exactly exactly, but now you're you're it's it's

662
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: the same logical application they're now even though they're weakening

663
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: one element of they're putting a very like an A

664
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: plus plus player at a position that desperately needs it. Now,

665
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: the same thing and moving him back to the slot

666
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: like that is absolutely an A plus plus US player

667
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: playing at an A plus position. Now.

668
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: I know it's not Joe Toney's natural position to.

669
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: Play at left tackle, but you're still putting an A

670
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: plus plus player at a crucial position of need in

671
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: you know, late December, and I think that is a

672
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: logical thing.

673
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: He's done it before too, he did it with the

674
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: Patriots and did it well. And he's got the toughest

675
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: matchup possible, and that's how the Steelers win. I'm thinking,

676
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers cover they're three and a half

677
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: point underdogs in this game or three either way. I

678
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: like the Steelers there. I think the Steelers might win

679
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: this game. I promise you. I haven't picked against the

680
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs all season except for the Bills game and maybe

681
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: one other the Eagles one other game that I got

682
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: wrong that they did win. But I do think this

683
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: is a spot they show up and the way they

684
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: would do it is just what makes them special. It's Wat,

685
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: Herbig and high Smith. You got to show up. Maybe

686
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: Wat hasn't been one hundred percent healthy late and Hayward.

687
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm thinking of the edges, so that's Tony,

688
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: but you're absolutely right their pass rush.

689
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: Now you don't have Tony on the interior anymore. This

690
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: is a Cam Hayward game.

691
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: So they need to just absolutely dominate. And we'll see

692
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: if Patrick Mahomes continues what he did last week. That

693
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: should scare everyone. He got rid of the ball so quickly,

694
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: his time to throw was nothing. They were reading the

695
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: defense and he's been holding onto the ball and taking

696
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: a lot of hits and he just didn't do that

697
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: last week. Hollywood Brown will help that out. Xavier Worthy's

698
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: been a little more comfortable, does Hollywood's role like continue

699
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: to increase. But yeah, to me, it's one of those

700
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: games where one side as Chris Jones and has some

701
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: great defensive players, but it's sometimes it's not about the

702
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: x's and o's, and it's just if wat Herbig and

703
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: high Smith and Hayward, which is the one of the

704
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: best pass rush groups we've seen in a long time,

705
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: can just show up and they all play their absolute best.

706
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: I think they end up winning this game.

707
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting because to your point, Hollywood,

708
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: Brown and Xavier Worthy, they have sort of become like

709
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: the three point shooters in this offense where they're making

710
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: these explosive plays. They're making these low probability but high

711
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: reward plays down the field, but they're using the Chiefs

712
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: are also helping get the ball out of Pat Mahomes's

713
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: hand really fast because they're now working Hopkins and Travis

714
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: Kelcey in the intermediate portions, which is so interesting that

715
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: new Hopkins is picking up the gimme plays and picking

716
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: up like the grinded out kind of plays and I

717
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: love that.

718
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: I love because he can do everything right.

719
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: It's like a I was going to say, a smaller

720
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: tight end but he's not even He's still just the size.

721
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: He's just so gifted.

722
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 3: And so I think that that has been an absolute

723
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 3: game changer for them, is they can win in this

724
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 3: way now, especially getting a couple of other players back

725
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: in those deeper layers, because now you don't need those

726
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: receivers to who are at the sort of the top

727
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: of the field and who are stretching the field in

728
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: the way that they do. You're not needing them to

729
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: do more for you. You're only needing them to do

730
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 3: what they do best.

731
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: Really looking forward to this one, my friend guest on

732
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: the show, Anthony jessel Nick, said, enjoy the Steelers victory

733
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: on Christmas. He is confident. We're also going to try

734
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: to get him back for the playoffs to talk about

735
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: his Steelers. He's feeling confident about this one. There is

736
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: something about that it's home. This it's so stupid. It's

737
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: like home and it's Christmas. I don't know, I could

738
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: just imagine a very Tomlin victory. It's just in my head.

739
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to pick the Steelers just because.

740
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: We can't both. Then now I'm taking the chief Okay.

741
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: I think you should take the Chiefs. The Chiefs is

742
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: a smarter pick. They won fourteen games this year. Yeah,

743
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: but I'm going to pick the Steelers based on vibes

744
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: because I love Pittsburgh football in December and January when

745
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: they get the opportunity to do that.

746
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 2: It was described by one of the players.

747
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: I was reading this great Mike Tomlin piece where a

748
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: bunch of players were quoted talking about him as a

749
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: head coach and what makes him special. And one of

750
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 3: the players quoted and the piece was talking about December

751
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 3: football in Pittsburgh and he described it as the air

752
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: is heavy and everything feels Gothic. And I was like,

753
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: f yeah, I'm going Steelers.

754
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: Funny because that reminds me more than any team of

755
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Our next team we're going to talk about.

756
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 1: The Ravens home field advantage is very Gothic in black,

757
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: but it's true, like I think of that home field

758
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: there is like for their night games, in everything, there

759
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: is like a darkness to in the best way possible.

760
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: But they're not in Baltimore. They're in Houston. That gives

761
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: the Texans a little edge here. I think they have

762
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: a nice home field crowd, one of the most underrated

763
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: crowds in the league and one of the most underrated

764
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: fan bases in the league. I feel like the Texans

765
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: fans don't get the love that they deserve, just for

766
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: the energy, the intelligence, the noise. I see you, Texans fans.

767
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: You're one of the least annoying fan bases out there,

768
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: and you're gonna need to help your team career because

769
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: you're fighting on uphill battle. They are five and a

770
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 1: half points underdogs at home in week seventeen when they're

771
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: gonna go to the playoffs. Is that is tough, but

772
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: it is bad timing. I think they are catching the

773
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: Ravens at a bad time. Both of these teams just

774
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: had their buy They're fresher more than anything. This is

775
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 1: a Ravens defense to me that is no longer just

776
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: shooting themselves in the foot, and so they're letting the

777
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: league's best offense take center stage while they just don't

778
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: mess it up. And I think that's really important, you know,

779
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: heading into this stretch of the season.

780
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: This defense is it's not as dramatic as a night

781
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: and day change, but they made some personnel adjustments and

782
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: Zach Orr has been coaching his ass off. I mean,

783
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: that dude is thirty two years old. Greg like to

784
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: be coordinating a defense that gets has gotten better, that

785
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: is under so much intense scrutiny at thirty two years old.

786
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: I think he's done a hell of a job this season,

787
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: especially after losing not just the previous DC but a

788
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 3: bunch of the assistant coaches. A hell of a job

789
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: he's coaching.

790
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: But they've declined. They've declined pretty hard.

791
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 2: You can't.

792
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: I've had to bring in dnps. But what they've done

793
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: is they've done the Ravens thing where they've made great adjustments,

794
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: and he deserves credit for that. They've simplified the coaching absolutely.

795
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: Coaching a good job at thirty two. I mean, come on, like,

796
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: I'm thirty two. I couldn't do that no way.

797
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: Well right, I mean, at at thirty two, I could

798
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: barely handle I think I had a newborn. I had

799
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: a newborn and we were I was soon to leave

800
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: for the NFL dot Com as an editor, and that

801
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: alone scrambled my brain to trying to start that new job.

802
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: I can only imagine what it's like to be a coordinator.

803
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: So yes, Kyle Hamilton's kind of in the back end.

804
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith is doing what he's doing, and maybe he

805
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: doesn't have as much going on there and you don't

806
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: need to be a super football on there to just

807
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: see the busts aren't there, the communication, but they just

808
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: look like a normal defense. I don't even know if

809
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: they're great, but if they're.

810
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: Filling, if they're the third's gotten better.

811
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: Right, if they're the thirteenth best defense in the NFL,

812
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: that's enough to go win a Super Bowl, and that's

813
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: enough to stop this version of the Texans offense. Unfortunately,

814
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: as someone who's kind of pulling for them to.

815
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: Be good, absolutely agree and absolutely heartbreaking what happened to

816
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: the Texans last week with Tank Dell. That's that's going

817
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: to be felt in so many ways, even more so

818
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 3: than on the field. That's going to be really really

819
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: hard for them to overcome. They've already had to overcome

820
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 3: issues with the offensive line.

821
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: CJ.

822
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 3: Stroud just getting rattled on certain plays and against certain

823
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: pressure that just is constant. And now he doesn't have

824
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: one of his favorite players as an outlet and one

825
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: of his dear friends on the field as well. That's

826
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: just it's absolutely heartbreaking, and I think that's going to

827
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 3: be significant for them down the st I mean, it

828
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: is something that they're going to have to overcome. I

829
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: don't know necessarily how they do it, because.

830
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: He was playing his best football things the year.

831
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: Now, I will say, scientists and our top analysts in

832
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: the NFL are working overtime this week trying to quantify

833
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: a thing that some are calling the Beyonce bump. Oh wow,

834
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: in Houston. Beyonce is going to be on the scene

835
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: in Houston.

836
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: She will be in the building. Yes, it's going to

837
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: be very distracting. I feel like for these.

838
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 3: And so I feel like just her aura, her presence

839
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: just lifts everybody. I don't think that's worth the negative spread.

840
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: I think that she at least gives them a field

841
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 3: goal advantage, if not a touchdown. You know, I feel

842
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: like the Beyonce, But scientists are working on it. I

843
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: can't specif I love that.

844
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: Lamar said he's gonna watch, He's gonna watch, He's gonna

845
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: come out and watch. So he's already distracted. So that's

846
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: a help.

847
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: I mean her, just her aura and her excellence, right,

848
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: I just feel like that's that's enough.

849
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: To keep Houston's own. You gotta give a little bump here. Now,

850
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: they do have special things about them. I could have

851
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: chosen Joe Mixon for the how he runs, for what

852
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: gives me joy. I think he leads the league in

853
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: a little known stat which is runs hard, plus his

854
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: cuts make me gasp. Composite, Like if you combine those

855
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: two things in terms of just running hard every single

856
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: play and making a cut that makes me gasp. I

857
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: think he's the NFL leader for that, and so they

858
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: just need, like they need him and CJ and Nico

859
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: Collins to just be special. I know that's like bad analysis,

860
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: but they are three special players.

861
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: I think that's not bad analysis. I think it's when

862
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 3: you go, yes, what's your stern?

863
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: I think played better since the buye. There have been

864
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: rough plays, but I think there's been more of what

865
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: makes him special too, and I think he showed a

866
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: lot of that last week. And so maybe this Ravens

867
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: pass rush isn't that great, Maybe can get it done.

868
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: I am a little worried about the injuries on the

869
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,959
Speaker 1: Texans offensive line. Juice drugs is hurt, Shack Mason is out,

870
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: so that you're adding new injuries to the mix for

871
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: a group that's just rough to begin with. They're already

872
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: missing the right tackle.

873
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: I'm going to pick the Ravens in this one.

874
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: First of all, goes without saying, but should be repeated often.

875
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: Lamar is playing just other worldly football, and especially very consistently.

876
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: You know, he had a couple of games where he

877
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: maybe didn't look totally like the Lamar that we've seen

878
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 3: throughout most of the year, but overall been absolutely excellent.

879
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: I love that he has some island games. I think

880
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: this time of year, especially as the MVP conversation continues,

881
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: I love that he's getting a couple of island games.

882
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: I think he has the opportunity and the potential to

883
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: do something even more historic than the historic thing that

884
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: he did last year.

885
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: And a lot of his advances, which.

886
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: Is what win a third MVP, and a.

887
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: Lot of his advanced statistics are continuing to ascend and

888
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: continuing to even be better than years previously, and so

889
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: I think that this getting him in front of a

890
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: lot of people is important if he can continue to

891
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: meet that bar and the Ravens in general are an

892
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: absolute wagon. I mean they just and again, like you said,

893
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm not crowning them as a great defense. I think

894
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: that they've coached their butts off and they have made adjustments,

895
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: and that is what good coaches do, and that is

896
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 3: why they've improved, and they're playing hard for that coaching

897
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: staff as well. And so I think that if you

898
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: can at least be a middle of the pack defense

899
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: and your offense is capable of lifting you to extraordinary heights,

900
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: as they've done all season long, then this team is

901
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: just going to be incredibly dangerous. And I think they

902
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: start to roll continue to roll, because they have been rolling,

903
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: but they especially continue to roll into this time of

904
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 3: the year that is so important to have that inertia.

905
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: I hope it does happen, but I think they cover

906
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: the five and a half points. Jimmy Ward out for

907
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: the season, as he's Alshai here, their defense is totally

908
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: different without him. He can return from his suspension next week.

909
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers a little banged up coming into this one.

910
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: Justice Sill probably not gonna play or he's definitely not

911
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: gonna play, and we'll see. I hope you're right about

912
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: the MVP thing's tricky, because it is did. The discourse

913
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: is just going to annoy me. But this is one

914
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: of the better quarterback seasons I've ever seen from Lamar

915
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: Jackson and Josh Allen isn't far off, and I'm hoping

916
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: just it is in an annoying debate. I think Josh

917
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: Allen will win it if he keeps it going. But

918
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: it reminds me a little bit of two thousand and four,

919
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: which a lot of people think was the greatest quarterback

920
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: season of all time by Peyton Manning. And I would

921
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: rank Dante Culpepper's two thousand and four at least in

922
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: the top five quarterback seasons of my lifetime, and I

923
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: don't it's weird. If you were there, you remember it.

924
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: And yet he didn't get the award because he was

925
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: in the same year as Peyton Manning having that award,

926
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: And that's what I feel like It's gonna happen, maybe

927
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: a little less, but either Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson

928
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: this year. It's unfortunate. All Right, it's the time of

929
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: the show for our TNF preview presented by Amazon Prime Video.

930
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: You don't have to spend as much time on this

931
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: one because it's the Bears, and yes, they might be

932
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: the best team I've ever seen with a nine game

933
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: losing streak. That's the nicest thing I can say about

934
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: your team hit them, right. Is it nine at this

935
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: point or is it ten? How have they lost nine

936
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: straight games? They really aren't that bad when you watch

937
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: them every week.

938
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: They play so hard.

939
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: It's up and down in terms of that, but they're

940
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: much better. They are a six or seven.

941
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 3: Nineteen nine consecutive lost team relative to that they play hard.

942
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Caleb. I think Caleb is coming off his best

943
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: game since at least before Thanksgiving, maybe his best game

944
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: of the entire season. I thought he played really well

945
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: last week. His problem has been stringing those types of

946
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: games together. It won't be easy. This defense shows you

947
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: a lot of different looks. For the most part, has

948
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: been consistent and it's going to be a tough matchup.

949
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: The Seahawks in the playoff race at eight and seven. Stupidly,

950
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: and I don't want to spend much time on this,

951
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: but stupidly, this game doesn't matter for them, which is

952
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: like kind of a dirty secret. They actually have basically

953
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: the same chance to make the playoffs if they win

954
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: or lose, which defies your It just like blows my mind.

955
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: It's like wright really, but because of the strength of

956
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: Victory Tiberger, all that really matters for them. Is that

957
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: the Rams lose on Saturday, and it sort of doesn't

958
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: matter if they win or lose, but they're going to

959
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: want to try to win, and I think they will

960
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: win and cover the three and a half points.

961
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously, And there is such a massive hinge right

962
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 3: coming up this weekend because the Rams would win the

963
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: NFC West with a Seattle loss or tie and the

964
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: Rams beat Arizona. But then Seattle also wants the Rams

965
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: to lose for their own playoff ramifications.

966
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: And I know you've gone over the permutations and they

967
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 2: just need.

968
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: The Rams to lose. That's all there is. Yeah, really,

969
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: all it.

970
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 3: Really is we can permutate and permutate and permutate away.

971
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: But that really it does boil down to those two

972
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: games are going on this weekend, and I think that

973
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: it is I have a question. I do have a

974
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: question for you because you've watched probably every snap of

975
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: Gino Smith over the last several years. And I say

976
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: that as a compliment, like you have the data. How

977
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: hurt does he seem to you? Does he seem like

978
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 3: he's I.

979
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: Mean, he looked a little banged up during that game

980
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: from him. That's something that happened during that game. I

981
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: thought that's been a major factor. Yeah, during that game, yes, he.

982
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: Played, I thought he played great football. But the the

983
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 3: I thought he got re I'm not reinjured necessarily, it's

984
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 3: dramatic at the end of the game, but I thought

985
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 3: he got like just banged up even more. And I

986
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: don't know, I'm concerned about the that takes a toll.

987
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: He's taken a lot of hits this season. It's late

988
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 3: in the year, short.

989
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: Week, you're on the road cold. The Bears are just

990
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: very unpredictable. They have like their defense will play well

991
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: one game and not well the other, and the offense

992
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: does vice versas, so they never play well. At the

993
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: same time, I actually was encouraged how Seattle played when

994
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: I watched that game. Gino made too many risky throws

995
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: and they were two pass heavy, just forty six passes.

996
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: Well, they've been that way all year, I know.

997
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just kind of crazy considering the scenario.

998
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: That said, when I watched that game, I thought it

999
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: couldn't have been more evenly played, And I was just like,

1000
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: these are two good teams with pretty good offenses and defenses.

1001
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: Going back and forth all the numbers, the success rate,

1002
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: the yards, just the eyeball tests, like every unit had

1003
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: extraordinary plays and it just looked like two good teams

1004
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: and one is a little bit better. And that's the

1005
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: Vikings And that's not surprising to me. The Seahawks, I

1006
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, they are a pretty good team. There

1007
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: are nine or ten win team. That's just where they were.

1008
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: We'll have conversations about whether Tariq Wollan and DK Metcalf

1009
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: and Draymond Jones are parts of their future. I think

1010
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: that's something that's interesting.

1011
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: There's some chatter about whether the OC is a part

1012
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: of their right.

1013
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: That could all be there. I think Gino Smith, just

1014
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: because of the because of how his contract looks and

1015
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: because of the market, will be there for sure next year.

1016
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: But go take care of business. Show me that you

1017
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: are the nine to ten win team that I think

1018
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: you are. And yeah, I'm torn on Saturday because I

1019
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: want a good Week eighteen game. I kind of want

1020
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: the Rams to lose, even though my family would hate

1021
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: me for that.

1022
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: Well, there just a set up, just to set up.

1023
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: They're definitely not listening. That was this week's TNF preview,

1024
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: presented by Prime Video. Be sure to watch the Seattle

1025
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks take on the Chicago Bears this Thursday on Prime Video. Okay,

1026
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: that is it for our Christmas Day and yes, December

1027
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: twenty sixth preview. I kind of forgot that TNF game

1028
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: even existed. I was like, what they're they're jamming in

1029
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: a one more TNF here for the season. What a

1030
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: treat it's been going over all the things that bring

1031
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: us joy. Jordan, doing this show with you has brought

1032
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: me a ton of joy. But we're not ending, you

1033
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: know what, We will see you next Tuesday. Colleen Wolf

1034
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: will be back for that show, and we were hoping

1035
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: to read some of her cards aloud, and we decided,

1036
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, let's get her in the studio. We applaud

1037
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: all of our listeners and if you follow Colleen on socials,

1038
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: check check it out on Instagram. She put it up

1039
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: that you guys came correct. You sent your Christmas cards

1040
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: to poor you know, woe be gotten Colleen Wolf. No,

1041
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: she's with her family and join the Christmas see Tim

1042
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: right now, the whole crew, including Tim, And why don't

1043
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: you just keep sending them? Send it here to NFL

1044
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: Network care of Colleen Wolf and we will read them

1045
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: next week. You can make it a Christmas card, you

1046
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: can make it in New Year's card, and we'll get

1047
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: that as part of the show.

1048
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: My goal for Colleen, because I feel like she is

1049
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: the person type of personality that would like truly derive

1050
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 3: so much joy from this, is that she continues to

1051
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 3: get specifically Christmas.

1052
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 2: Cards all through yes, ring yeah, summer.

1053
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 3: So listeners, you guys already have come through in so

1054
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: many ways, keep sending cards to Colleen Wolf care of

1055
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 3: NFL Network.

1056
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: The address is very public.

1057
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 3: Make sure that you continue the Christmas card theme. We're

1058
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: going to do this all the way through July. We're

1059
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: gonna make her month week year. She deserves it. She

1060
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: is joy personified. I love that we're doing this episode

1061
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: today because Colleen is joy personified, and it's been for

1062
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: me just like I can't even believe how lucky I

1063
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: am to get to come in here every Tuesday and

1064
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: see you guys.

1065
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: So I really appreciate it.

1066
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: Very well said. Let's go. Let's let everyone behind the

1067
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: glass go do their last minute shopping or whatever, wrapping,

1068
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: whatever they need to do. We will be back on Thursday.

1069
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Patrick will be with me to recap those Christmas games

1070
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: and look ahead to the rest of the week seventeen slate.

1071
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: So we got Hanukkah starting, we got Christmas to everyone

1072
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: out there. Yes, when old Saint Nick is about to

1073
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: go make his deliveries, you know football is back