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Speaker 1: fm to get started. Welcome back a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an impromptu episode, episode number two here on the met

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Speaker 1: stub podcast. I'm one of the co hosts, Mark Luino

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Speaker 1: draftneck Mark also on here with James Sheiano.

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Speaker 2: You guys know the drill. Thank you for coming back

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Speaker 2: for episode two.

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Speaker 1: A lot of amazing support on episode one, basically like

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Speaker 1: three thousand listens between YouTube, Spotify, iTunes, Google Podcasts. Truly

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Speaker 1: incredible for a first episode. So we're back for a second,

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Speaker 1: when we have a lot of great things to talk

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Speaker 1: about today, Francis go Lindor, Steve Cohen, opening day, we

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Speaker 1: know what the roster's looking like, and right now and

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Speaker 1: when we're recording it, we are, what under forty eight

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Speaker 1: hours away from opening day. Exciting stuff here on the

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Speaker 1: Mets the Podcast, Exciting stuff for Mets fans. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. James, how you're feeling, How's

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Speaker 1: how's your week been. It's been a while since we've talked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, feeling great. Has been a long time. Kind of

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Speaker 3: missing man. A lot's happened, but not that much.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of nothing, but also a lot of

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Speaker 3: Really the last forty eight hours, things have kind of

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Speaker 1: Dude, it's crazy the stuff like that was happening last night. So,

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Speaker 1: in case you guys don't know, Francisco Lindor has his debt.

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Speaker 3: In case you guys don't know, there might be a

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Speaker 1: So we got to give you know, everybody their fair shot.

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Speaker 1: But in case you don't know, Francisco Indoor gave a

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be distracted. He wants to be

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Speaker 1: Mets have right now about forty eight hours until opening

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Speaker 1: day begins, and they are trying to extend Francisco Lindoor.

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Speaker 1: Of course, because he's the best short stop in baseball,

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Speaker 1: top fifteen player at the absolute least. Why wouldn't you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some legitimate fireworks.

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Speaker 3: It's after the ten years for three hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: Yees, So, I mean like the fact that it's an

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Speaker 1: So the people getting on Steve Cohen about you know,

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Speaker 1: Mets fans we're getting we got a little spoiled here,

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Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy that calls him one cheap. Who's offering

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Speaker 1: the Mets came back said ten for three twenty five,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not gonna happen. That's just we know why

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Speaker 1: But for Francisco Lindor, you can't blame him. He's really good.

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Speaker 1: He's the best shorts stop in baseball. And if you

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Speaker 1: end of the day. It really means nothing. But I

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Speaker 2: I am all for.

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Speaker 1: I'm completely on the side of pay this man whatever

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Speaker 2: For me, which is great. That's a lot of gifts,

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Speaker 1: Just I don't want to see anyone playing shortstop for

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Speaker 3: It was really grinding my gears last night on Twitter

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Speaker 3: for a shortstop like this guy I don't think people recall,

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Speaker 3: Like there's no reason to say that Francisco Indoor is

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Speaker 3: He has a piss out of it. Like there's no

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Speaker 3: just no question that Francisco Indoors like a power hit

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Speaker 1: Like people were giving me shit last night because I

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Speaker 1: a mistake at all. I found like stand by it

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Speaker 1: it on Baseball Reference stadhead here, I'm gonna find guys

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, just like, if you're gonna find classify a

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Speaker 3: Those three seasons I was talking about, he was averaging

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Speaker 3: And that is that's not even our worst tweet the day.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's which is. I think just shows how bad

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Speaker 3: Literally, I tried to make a joke on Twitter last night,

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Speaker 2: We need to win championships now.

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Speaker 3: It was like, oh, ho, whoa, oh, I need to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bobby Bonia, that's were born.

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Speaker 1: This is coming from Mets fans. So it's like, here's

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Speaker 2: Everybody, take a deep breath. It's gonna be okay. We

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Speaker 1: Don't think about Bobby Bonilla when you hear Francisco Lindor.

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Speaker 2: Those two names should never cross paths.

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Speaker 3: I have a great Bobby Bonia stat right now. Francisco

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Speaker 2: We're doing the same thing over and over again. No,

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Speaker 3: Forty four seconds ago, someone responded to my tweet saying,

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Speaker 3: Bobby Bonia will be fun until twenty thirty five. Francisco

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Speaker 2: Why are we talking about Bobby Bonilla so much? Was

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Speaker 3: We're gonna make that on black jerseys alone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Steve Cohen wipes his ass with a million dollars.

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Speaker 3: The first thing Steve Cohen did when he received like

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Speaker 1: I've been I think I texted you even at last night.

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Speaker 1: I think eleven for three fifty is where they're gonna

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Speaker 2: But that's the only thing. It's not my money. I

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Speaker 3: I don't understand why these people are so sensitive about

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Speaker 2: Who cares? Who cares? I'll go buy it.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm fully interested in buying authentic jerseys again from

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Speaker 1: no to three hundred and twenty five million? It's like, well,

436
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,840
Speaker 1: you're not a professional baseball player. You don't have millions

437
00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,200
Speaker 1: of people watch you and buy your jerseys and care

438
00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,320
Speaker 1: about what you do every single day. He has value.

439
00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,880
Speaker 1: He's the product down the field. That's the reason why

440
00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,440
Speaker 1: people go to the games is to watch him. Let's

441
00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,639
Speaker 1: even talk about this now more so with Steve Cohen.

442
00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,480
Speaker 2: The tweets, the tweets a little week. Yeah, you texted

443
00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,080
Speaker 2: me yesterday like did you see that Cohen tweet? And

444
00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,480
Speaker 2: I thought it was just the reply about brainstorming. I

445
00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,560
Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, I saw the Steve Cohen tweet.

446
00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,280
Speaker 2: And then I saw the actual Steve Cohen tweet. I

447
00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,880
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I did not see the Steve Cohen tweet. Yeah,

448
00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,000
Speaker 2: little a little interesting.

449
00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,919
Speaker 1: So I think we're talking about the heck of a

450
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Speaker 1: player one right, Yep, that's the one. So Steve Cohens

451
00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,680
Speaker 1: seven hours ago at the time we're recording this, so

452
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Speaker 1: it was twelve forty one Eastern Standard time. Lindor is

453
00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,439
Speaker 1: a heck of a player and a great guy. I

454
00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,359
Speaker 1: hope he decides the side like with poor grammar.

455
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Speaker 2: What's that period doing on an island? Yeah, the periods.

456
00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,440
Speaker 2: I love period space.

457
00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,359
Speaker 3: That's not that's not not hell of heck of a

458
00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,720
Speaker 3: heck of a So. I like, I don't know what

459
00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,000
Speaker 3: to take in Steve Coheness Twitter, and I think the

460
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,720
Speaker 3: the answer that I've come to myself is don't take

461
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,600
Speaker 3: anything into it. I think Steve Cones a little bit

462
00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,920
Speaker 3: of a troll. I think he likes to just stir

463
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,800
Speaker 3: the pot a little bit. I think he knows what's

464
00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,359
Speaker 3: going on the back end side obviously, Uh you know,

465
00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:19,920
Speaker 3: it's his money.

466
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Speaker 1: That's a lot of money. It's gonna be coming out

467
00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,639
Speaker 1: of his pocket. People are taking this as like doomsday. Like,

468
00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,080
Speaker 1: I hope he decides to sign. I honestly think he

469
00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,840
Speaker 1: might be fucking with us, and I think that he

470
00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,920
Speaker 1: knows something a little bit more.

471
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,720
Speaker 3: I think it's possible that this is just like a

472
00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,640
Speaker 3: joke or a troll and they know they're close enough

473
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,000
Speaker 3: with enough time to get it done, but there's a

474
00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,480
Speaker 3: galaxy where that might be a leverage play, Like you're

475
00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,960
Speaker 3: putting the onus on Lindore. I hope he decides to sign, Like,

476
00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 3: I like, that's like kind of taking the fault out

477
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,480
Speaker 3: of yourself and the negotiations, which again I'm not crucifying

478
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 3: the man. We still have some time. I'm not gonna

479
00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,040
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna talk any shit, but like, that is

480
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,320
Speaker 3: what that seems like. Like, I hope he decides to sign.

481
00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,400
Speaker 3: I hope we can sign him. He's putting every single

482
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,760
Speaker 3: thing on the door, says your court like kind of

483
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,959
Speaker 3: Francissa did the same thing again to bring on Mike

484
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 3: Francessa twice. Francessa is the legends of the game. I

485
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,359
Speaker 3: will not talk about Francessa. However, he has miles past

486
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 3: his prime.

487
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,399
Speaker 1: Yeah no, and to his take today really showed that

488
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 1: with Ah, he doesn't want to go get somebody else.

489
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 2: It's like who else, Mike?

490
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,880
Speaker 1: Like, the free agent market's really good next year for shortstops,

491
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,359
Speaker 1: but Doors still the top guy in this.

492
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 2: But I will say now we're transitioning to the free

493
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,439
Speaker 2: agent market.

494
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 3: This entire negotiation has really dampened any kind of opportunity

495
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,280
Speaker 3: to resign Michael Conford though.

496
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Speaker 2: But I think I saw a tweet earlier.

497
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was from Tacomo Yeah, No,

498
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 1: it was Tacomo Yeah about how there's no deadline for KONFORDO.

499
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,360
Speaker 2: It said, hi'll talk during the season, So.

500
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Speaker 3: Of course I don't know how much negotiation can actually

501
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 3: get done during the season. And the second point is

502
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 3: that next year, as talented as next year's free Asian

503
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 3: shortstops are, the outfielders are atrocious. Not that they're bad players,

504
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,640
Speaker 3: but there's no one who is young and good at

505
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Speaker 3: the same time. Like if FOURDA is the only guy

506
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Speaker 3: who hits both those bars. So I almost think he'd

507
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Speaker 3: be foolish not to test the market.

508
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I don't want him to.

509
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he also like has the the issue of

510
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 1: like being a corner outfielder and like a pretty average

511
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: corner outfielder, and I feel like right now a lot

512
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 1: of teams are not prioritizing that.

513
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Speaker 2: I mean, we saw Azuna.

514
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Speaker 1: Not many people seem to be particularly interested in Ozuna,

515
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 1: and after the numbers that he's put up and put

516
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Speaker 1: up in the past.

517
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Speaker 2: I think MILCOELM. Confordo is a better hitter. I think

518
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Speaker 2: he's a better player.

519
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a better hitter. I think he's

520
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 3: much better fielder. But Ozuna is a freaking ature. He's sick,

521
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 3: a sick hitter.

522
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 2: Hey, he puts he he puts a hardening on the baseball.

523
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 2: It's very hard. But I feel like Confordo's like he's

524
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Speaker 2: on base with him too. He is just know. That's

525
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 2: where I think it elevates him over.

526
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Speaker 1: Azuna hits for more power, no doubt he hits the

527
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Speaker 1: ball harder, but like Kilforida, I think is a more

528
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,479
Speaker 1: like complete hitter, which is hard to say because Ozuna

529
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 1: also hit like what through twenty last year.

530
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think and like he was like top

531
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Speaker 3: one he's been top one percent and like egg of

532
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Speaker 3: last day, hard hit for the last couple of years.

533
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Speaker 2: His strike out rates going down. But this is not myself.

534
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 3: Azuna podcast isn't Mets podcast. But next year's free agent

535
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 3: crop of outfielders are Tommy fam Starling, Marte, Kyle Schwarber,

536
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,439
Speaker 3: Eddie Rosario, Corey Dickerson, Castanos hasn't opt out, might not

537
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: take it. Black men player option. I'm sure he'pe sign

538
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 3: back in McCutcheon and Jackie Bradley Jr. Michael kinfour though,

539
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 3: is so head and shoulders as like a pure free

540
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 3: agent value gonna be twenty eight to twenty nine when

541
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Speaker 3: he hits the market next year. Is so head and

542
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: shoulders above every single one of those players. It would

543
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 3: be shocking for him not to get out there.

544
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like he's he's definitely gonna demand a lot,

545
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: and again he's gonna be probably looking for that at

546
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 1: least eight year contract with what.

547
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: His age is gonna be, and probably tryin to yeah,

548
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 2: twenty five million a year.

549
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: So he's gonna be a guy who's gonna be over

550
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Speaker 1: you know, two hundred million dollars you're gonna have to

551
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Speaker 1: pay him. And not that I don't want to pay him,

552
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: I obviously do. I want Himford to on the team

553
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: for a long time. He's, you know, one of the

554
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: best hitting guys that we've watched in our lifetime, in

555
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: our twenty five years.

556
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Speaker 2: And we've seen him grow up. Yeah, he's one of us.

557
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: He's one of our guys, and you want to keep

558
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: some of your guys around for sure, not that the

559
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: Mets aren't going to be able to. We have kept

560
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: a lot of our guys, but he's one of those

561
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 1: dudes who is he was there in twenty fifteen, Like

562
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: he's almost like he's a homegrown guy. You want to

563
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 1: see him do well. So I would love to keep

564
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: him around. I think we are. I really am not

565
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: nervous about Confordo.

566
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Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to.

567
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Speaker 3: If I had, like, if I had to place a

568
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 3: bet right now, yes or no, I'd probably say no.

569
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: I'm also bad at betting, so I could be wrong.

570
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, But do.

571
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Speaker 1: You think that the Lindor stuff is going to like

572
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: it's it's Do you think it's between Lindor and Conforido.

573
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 3: I don't think it's between them, But I think you

574
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 3: only have a certain amount of resources that you can

575
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 3: give to actual extension negotiations. I just think as the

576
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: days go on, it's much harder. And also because they

577
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: have such different skill sets, like it's much more difficult

578
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 3: to find another Francisco Lindor than this to find another

579
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Speaker 3: Michael Confordo. Not that there is another Michael Confour though,

580
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 3: but there are plenty of other power hitting corner outfielders

581
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: who are like slightly above average fielders, not a next

582
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: year's free agent class, but like the way the Mets

583
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 3: have been building up their system and like not necessarily

584
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 3: players we have in the upper miners right now, or

585
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: our outfield depth isn't very good, but like there's a way

586
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: to get him, and like also talking about that class

587
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: next year, if you were to give Tommy fam a

588
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: one year, twelve million dollar contract, you would recoup like

589
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 3: a decent amount of Canfordo's value you when he's gonna

590
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 3: be taking twenty five million dollars somewhere. Same thing with

591
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: the Castianos, even though he's pissing the field. But what

592
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 3: I'm saying like there there are avenues to find a

593
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 3: corner outfielder, as we've seen throughout free agency the last

594
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Speaker 3: couple of seasons.

595
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean, like it's it's a tough decision.

596
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad we don't have to make it because if

597
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: it like seriously trying to like balance the you know,

598
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: payroll situation, luxury tax, it's not a cap, but it is,

599
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: we know it is.

600
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Speaker 3: What would I hate when I hate five hundred million

601
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 3: dollars burning a hole in my pocket and give the

602
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: two best players on.

603
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: The of six months. Well, there's half a million dollars

604
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: gone to two players. I hope we fucking win like that.

605
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 3: That that part is also is crazy, especially if they

606
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 3: want to stay below the luxury tax next year and

607
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 3: they will be in the mix for Thor and for Stroman.

608
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: That's a ton of money of guys who are immediately

609
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 3: free agents. It doesn't even include being in the mix

610
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Speaker 3: for other free agents next season.

611
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we do lose some guys off the books.

612
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: It'll be nice if, you know, maybe Cano take some

613
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: more steroids and we don't have to pay him anymore.

614
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the Mets are coming into there's

615
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a decision that's made. And I

616
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: know Cohen hasn't been hard on the luxury tax. He said, like,

617
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna spend when we need to, like he's not

618
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: concerned with it. But I think there's probably gonna have

619
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Speaker 1: to be like an organizational decision made at some point

620
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: about what they're gonna do with the spending. Because are

621
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Speaker 1: you gonna be the Dodgers and you're gonna say, we

622
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: don't care, we're gonna spend, We're gonna get the best players,

623
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Speaker 1: or are we gonna be maybe like the Yankees, who

624
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: are trying to consciously stay under look for the sneaky

625
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 1: guys every once in a while, still get the big

626
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: names when they come around. Which is I imagine saying that,

627
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: by the way, trying to get sneaky guys on the

628
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: Yankees and.

629
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Speaker 2: Not spend as much.

630
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: But it would be the rich team like the Dodgers

631
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: are a poor team, like the Yankees. It's up to

632
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: Steve Cohen. It's up to Steve Cohen. These are great problems,

633
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: like the fact that the Mets have the options of

634
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: signing players for hundreds of millions of dollars and deciding

635
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: who is worth it or who is gonna get it and.

636
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: Who might not.

637
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 3: But also it I don't even think that Steve Cohen

638
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: knows because if the when the Dodgers ownership changed, they

639
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: were like steadfast with their money for a few years,

640
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, once you get close to

641
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 3: winning and you like taste it and you feel it

642
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 3: and you know you're right there, fuck it, make like

643
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: you just you are gonna start just spending money trying

644
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: to get over that hump anyway possible. And I think

645
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 3: that could happen with Steve I think actually, you know,

646
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: I think it will happen with Steve Cowen because he's

647
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: more money in these people.

648
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: I think it will too, because, like, especially when he

649
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: gave like the three to five year plan, and I think,

650
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: like even just throwing out a number of three hundred

651
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: and twenty five million to Lindor, you don't do that.

652
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 1: I don't think without thinking that you're gonna have to

653
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: spend more and be able to spend more to take

654
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: or to do what it takes to win, especially when

655
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: you threw what was it, forty five million at Travauer

656
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: this offseason two and we got you know, we went

657
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: after George Springer. We offered him a ton of money.

658
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: Like the Mets have not been shy in trying to throw.

659
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: Out the money. It's just our people accepting it.

660
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: Right now, they're just hitting their spots, and if their

661
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 3: spot is exceeded, they seem to be okay with that,

662
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: which is positive in the long term. Of course, the

663
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: long term is not the next forty eight hours when

664
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 3: I'm shitting my pants hoping they cide Princess Go Lindor.

665
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: But like, and also it's important to remember like logistically,

666
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: like there is an exclusive negotiating window that will happen

667
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: after the season with both of these guys. It's not ideal,

668
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: it's not optimal, but it will exist. I think there's

669
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: like the time between like the end of the World

670
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 3: Series and like whenever, like the new league year begins,

671
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: you have exclusive rights negotiate with your own free agents.

672
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: A possibility exists. There's something there, like I don't know.

673
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I again, like I think we we love saying this,

674
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: this might be the phrase of our podcast, but we

675
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: have a lot of really good problems. Like all the

676
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: problems that we have are so great right now. And

677
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: the fact that we're talking about the Mets possibly signing

678
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: two players for a total of half a billion dollars

679
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: is something that if you told me even you know,

680
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: seven eight months ago, that that was a conversation.

681
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 2: But like what happened.

682
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: Did the will Ponds, you know, get a part of

683
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: the Madoff scheme and hit big again? Like I just

684
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: couldn't even imagine spending that amount of money a couple

685
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: months ago.

686
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: So I will say, there's like a little bit of

687
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 3: breaking news that won't be breaking when you do it.

688
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: But Pete said Pay him four hundred. WHOA where do

689
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: you say that? Because he doesn't have social media.

690
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: Disha tweeted it, so I'm thinking that maybe he just

691
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: told her Yeah, held, he told Dsha those are a

692
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: great report for the Daily News in an interview.

693
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: Pay him four hundred, absolutely, no question about it. Not

694
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 2: only is he a superstar on the field, he pays attention,

695
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: He works hard. He cares about his teammates. Not only

696
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: does he have the quantifiable numbers of a superstar, he

697
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: has the X factor. What he brings to a clubhouse

698
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: is tremendous and can't be measured along with his superstar talent.

699
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: Give money, I'm pulling down Wow, ring take the money.

700
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 3: Give it to him as they ringing endorsement. I have

701
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: a nice bundle of change here.

702
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: Give him your coins, whatever it is, take it, take

703
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: the money right now. If that's like, I think, you

704
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: know your teammates and what they say to like really

705
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: does matter you. Hear a lot about guys that are

706
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: great teammates all the time. We had it with Todd

707
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: Frazier and kept him around the Mets for multiple years

708
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: past when he should have been here. But I think

709
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: like that endorsement, I think does ring ring pretty large

710
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: in terms of what we know he's good. But the

711
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: fact that, like, what are the Mets men with him

712
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: a month? A month and a half and they're already like,

713
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: this is this is the guy, this is it. He

714
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: came in here, this is the guy.

715
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: That's why that that is so jarring. P He has

716
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: only known this guy for like a month. With his

717
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 3: impact in the clubhouse, it's not even the clubhouse.

718
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think really hang out because of COVID stuff,

719
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: you're supposed to putfield, take your clothes off, leave Like it's.

720
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: Kind of hysterical. Honestly that he said that without social

721
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: media too, that's not so. Yeah, he's like I need

722
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: to I need to get my message out to somebody.

723
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: That makes that makes that even more influential. I think

724
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: it also means that they're stressed about it, that the

725
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: players are very aware of what's going on.

726
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 2: They want him there.

727
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I think they know that, like he really is

728
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: a key piece to like taking the Mets to the

729
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: next level. They know how good they are, they know

730
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: how good they could have been the last few years,

731
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: and they've shown it at points and now they're like

732
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 1: and that's with essentially a shortstop that outside of him

733
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: and his last year, didn't play great defense, had no defense,

734
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: was pretty terrible at shortstop.

735
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: The Mets went to the World Series in twenty fifteen

736
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: without a shortstop on the roster.

737
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: Well Flores was playing shortstop. Literally know they did. Mets

738
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: didn't have a shortstop and went to the World Series.

739
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not that's also you could talk about

740
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: the Mets at every position with that twenty fifteen World

741
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: So you seem to go from the offensive side. It

742
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: was not even remotely close to what we have now now.

743
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: It's just miles better. And the pitching was a lot

744
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: stronger from a certain rotation side then, but the pitching

745
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: now is still pretty solid. I'm liking all the moves

746
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: that we made.

747
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: De gram is de Gram, Da gram is de Graam.

748
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: You a want to talk about de Groam now.

749
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: You've been wanting to talk about Dagrom a little bit,

750
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna give your time to give you a

751
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: little de gram appreciation post here.

752
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: This is some de ground appreciation because we have talked

753
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: a lot in this podcast about like depth pieces, some minutia,

754
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: some of the four Stars, some of the five stars,

755
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: A little bit of best Stroman, But we have not

756
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: talked about Jacob de Gram, who's unquestionably the best picture

757
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: on planet Earth, who is just aging like a fine wine,

758
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: Like we just sit him on the cascellar and he

759
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: just continues to get better.

760
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: It's crazy. He all this feels like very low to me.

761
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: And I was looking this up the other day, But

762
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: he's the only the twenty first pitcher ever to have

763
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: multiple Si youngs, and I think he'll end up being

764
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: hopefully if when whatever he gets his third, he will

765
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: be like the seventh or the sixth to ever have three,

766
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: every single one of those guys in the Hall of Fame.

767
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, I'll let you keep going.

768
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: But he's like the weird kind of case where he's

769
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: a dude who is not going to have anywhere close

770
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: to the counting numbers, but if all said is done,

771
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: is going to be a Hall of Famer, and not

772
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: because of his counting numbers, just because of how dominant he.

773
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: Was during his era. You you have to put him in.

774
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: He's like becoming kind of like Cofax seton where he's

775
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: putting together year after year in a short window. That's

776
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: like so unbelievably amazing, Like, over the last four seasons,

777
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 3: he has the highest war on both Baseball Reference and

778
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: Fangrass for any pitcher.

779
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: Crazy.

780
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: He even has the third highest in all of baseball

781
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: batters included. The only guys more valuable in both both

782
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: war calculations literally over the last four seasons are Mookie

783
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: Bets and Mike Trout.

784
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: And you're talking about the undoubtedly two best players in

785
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: baseball literally, and Jacob de Groum only steps on the

786
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: baseball field about thirty times a year. Wait, you said

787
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: that was the last four years, So that's what twenty seventeen, twenty.

788
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty, So that's.

789
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: One hundred and seven games, one hundred and seven starts.

790
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: Still not even a full major league season of a

791
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: position player.

792
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: No a bad one, Yeah, platoon guy, it's crazy and

793
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: literally and those one hundred and seven starts, that's fifth

794
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: most in the league over that time, so he's still

795
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: been like durable as crap. The only guys with more

796
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: starts are Cole granky Porcello which is hysterical Corbin and

797
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: Lance Lynn, which is also.

798
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: Stere cupp A weird group of guys.

799
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even though he's fifth in starts, he's first

800
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: in innings. He has the most innings pitched in baseball

801
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: over the last four years. Like that shock here, I

802
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: really thought that was gonna be Cole. But I guess

803
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: even four years ago Cole wasn't even really what he

804
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: is right now. But the Mets like have just been

805
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: able to just like set their watch to Jacob de

806
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: Grom like every single five days, and it's been more

807
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: five days than five games. He goes out there and

808
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: he pitches, and he's just been like this has been

809
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: beaten to death for years and years on Twitter. But

810
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: he is so hysterically unlucky, it's like not even funny.

811
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: Like over those four seasons where he has the most

812
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: war of any pitcher, third most in baseball, most innings pitch, fifth,

813
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: most starts, A two five V two six FIP thirty

814
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: two percent, kra a whip right at one, he's forty

815
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: and twenty nine. He is for they in.

816
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: Twenty nine, which is like, honestly, like if you didn't

817
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: know how many starts he was making, like forty and

818
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: twenty nine, al right, it's pretty so good.

819
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, fact, if you told me that was Porcello. W

820
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: he'd be like, that's prety good. It's pretty up, john Nie,

821
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: all right, I'll take it.

822
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: He's lost twenty nine games. He's only given up four

823
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: runs or more thirteen times in four years and seventeen.

824
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: Times ten basically that's nuts. And he has given up

825
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: two runs or less seventy nine times. It's pretty good,

826
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: not bad. That's an entire career. It's not bad. That's

827
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: not bad at all.

828
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: And the worst stat I've pulled from all of this

829
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: that just breaks my heart and brings tears to my eyes.

830
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: The Mets are fifty three and fifty four and Jacob

831
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: de gram starts since the start of twenty seventeen even

832
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: happened the best, the best, but almost one of the

833
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: best stretches for a pitcher of all time, at least

834
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: since they lowered the mound and the Mets are under

835
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: five hundred in these four.

836
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: Seasons, Does that even happen?

837
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: Doesn't make sense going back by the way to just

838
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: how like unlucky Jacob de Grimm has been like with

839
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: wins and losses.

840
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: Some of the guys that have more wins over that

841
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: four year.

842
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: Stretch than him, Jay happ Mike Fires, Patrick Corbyn, Rick Porcello,

843
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: Jean Lester, I mean, and then guys tied with him,

844
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: Cory Kuber, Dallas Kico, Corykluber has' pitched in like two years.

845
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: That would be really It's crazy.

846
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: This just gets rid of every single inclination at the

847
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: wind could ever be a stat that should be used

848
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: to like determine a picture's value or how good somebody is.

849
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: It's insane, you.

850
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: Know, I mean, like three hundred win club still sick

851
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: like dope, that's awesome, Like you can't be a bad

852
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: picture and win three hundred games kind of thing.

853
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: Just like that's never gonna happen again.

854
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: No one's a gonna three the Grom's I'm gonna have

855
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: one fifty like he he's gonna change the entire way

856
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: that baseball writers perceive pitchers in the Hall of Fame

857
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: because like he's gonna have Like, he's not gonna have

858
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: twelve hundred nas. He might he might sneak there, but

859
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: he's not gonna have a hundred and fifty wins histories.

860
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: I don't know how many strike guys he's gonna have.

861
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: He's so good, he might he might sneak into like

862
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: twenty five hundred.

863
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: But it really probably not.

864
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: It's funny how like he's gonna change the way that

865
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: baseball writers think about the Hall of Fame. And then

866
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: you even go like back a little bit further. It's

867
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: like Felix Hernandez changed how baseball riders thought about the

868
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: cy Young where it's like King Felix won with like

869
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: basically a five hundred record.

870
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: He wasn't the ten wins and nine or whatever.

871
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 3: He was just like gram was in twenty eighteen when

872
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 3: hit the won seven r and won the col.

873
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: So like he's changing the game and like for a

874
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: better because we really should not put any value whatsoever

875
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: it wins. It's a cool counting stat back in the

876
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: day when pitchers pitched eight to nine innings minimum every

877
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: single time, because then they really did have an impact.

878
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: On the winner or loss.

879
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you're i mean just getting screwed by

880
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: your bullpen or not scoring any runs, like it's it's

881
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: his He shouldn't play the lottery, not that he needs to,

882
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: but he shouldn't.

883
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: He's unlucky. No, he shouldn't.

884
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: That's why just one of these years that's gonna happen

885
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: where the Mets. That's gonna all gonna coalesce where he's

886
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: gonna be incredible and the Mets are actually gonna be

887
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: good on offense, and he's gonna make like thirty one

888
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: starts and win like twenty four games. But like the

889
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: number one thing that's gonna keep the gram good hopefully

890
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: knocking on everything I have here is he is just

891
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: throwing the ball so much harder than he ever has crazy,

892
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: which is just ignorant stupid, is sitting one oh one literally,

893
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: over these four years, his fastball philosopi has increased from

894
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: ninety four to ninety five to ninety six, ninety.

895
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: Eight and a half.

896
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: Last year he hit one hundred miles an hour thirty

897
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 3: three times. Last season thirty three times.

898
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 2: That's not rounding up, No. Ninety nine point fives.

899
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 3: Included there zero that he only done twice before in

900
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: his career, and both happened twenty nineteen thirty three times.

901
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: It was only third of the season. He could have

902
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: hit one hundred times. He could have hit the double

903
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 2: hundred tentry mark.

904
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just like he's a guy who you clearly

905
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: see like isn't satisfied with being as good as he is,

906
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: which is crazy because like, if you were to tell

907
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: me that, he's like, yeah, I'm really good. I don't

908
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: really need to do too much else I'd be like,

909
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: you're right, you don't need to do too much else

910
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: I'll take this every single day.

911
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: But he's like, no, I want to be better. Like

912
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: this isn't good enough.

913
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm not throwing hard enough. My slider's not gonna my

914
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: change up isn't good enough. I'm not going inside on

915
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: batters enough. Like he just he does literally whatever he

916
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: wants because he focuses so much on getting better.

917
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 3: Bro, He's put four miles an hour in his fastball

918
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: in four years from ages twenty eight to thirty two,

919
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: Like what the fuck is that?

920
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: That's alien shit. And it's not like he threw slow either.

921
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: It's not like he's going from like eight to ninety four.

922
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: Oh so soft, dude. He hit ninety five with a

923
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: sly there last week against the Astros, and I think

924
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: it's like a ninety four ninety three min hour change up.

925
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, that's betty.

926
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: He he hit one hundred eight times in like four

927
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 3: innings of the spring training start.

928
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: That's just showing off, you.

929
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: Know, he's just like he's such a different animal than

930
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: we've seen really from like a Mets picture. We've had

931
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: some great pictures in our time, but like we remember

932
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: when Harvey was the Dark Knight and he just like

933
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: came out there and he shoved, and Jake de Gram

934
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: is like, now I don't need no nicknames. I'm just

935
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna go out there. I'm gonna pitch, and I'm gonna

936
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: be Jacob de Gram.

937
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: That's it. Like I just don't care who you are.

938
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: I'm better. That's it literally, And it's like it looks

939
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: like effortless.

940
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: Like a lot of times guys are like Max Max

941
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: Vlow every single pitch like that's how you screw screw

942
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: yourself up. But he's just hanging out chucking it in

943
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: like ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety seven, ninety eight, one

944
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 3: hundred one bang like he usually needs to. And as

945
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: good as his fastball has become, like he's been dropping

946
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: his fastball usage for the last couple of years to

947
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: focus more on like a slide there and his change

948
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: that turns a pitch into like a swing and miss weapon.

949
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: Well, like I feel like even with him, I think

950
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: even last year you probably noticed it a lot more

951
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: like with two strikes, he was able to throw out

952
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: fastball and picture and batters were just like what, like

953
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: why why are you throwing that there?

954
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: Like almost like they were caught off guard.

955
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: We're like, you really went fastball and it was one

956
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: hundred and one on the corner knees, How do we

957
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: hit that?

958
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 3: It's gotta be a lot of this Hafner too, because

959
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 3: Hefner had like the magic juju with the guys and

960
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 3: the twins where they were ever like like Martine Perez,

961
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: after being like dog shit for his entire career, came

962
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 3: out two years ago. It was just pumping ninety six,

963
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: Like that's interesting.

964
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: And even like Trevor May I know he came back

965
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: from Tommy John too, so that was a little bit

966
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: part of it. But he's a guy who like credit

967
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: Tefner big time to like how much better he's gotten.

968
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: And you can see it in his numbers. Yeah the

969
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 2: reasons too. So yeah, I mean, like de Gram, he's

970
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: just he's so good.

971
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to watch him this year. I'm so

972
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: excited to watch this Mets team, Like we have so

973
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: many good players. This is I think probably at least

974
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: in our lifetime. It's gotta be the best, the best roster.

975
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: That we've ever had.

976
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: I think, definitely. I only even think it's that close.

977
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 3: Like the mess have an unquestioned amount of depth compared

978
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 3: to years past, Like nothing's even remotely similar.

979
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then even at the surface, I mean, like

980
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: you're sick you compared to the two thousand and six season,

981
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: which is probably our other best time for a roster,

982
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: the pitching is better because the pitching then wasn't particularly strong.

983
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: It was Oliver Perez was the guy that.

984
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: We went to, you know, in big game moments.

985
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: But Oliver Perez the current the current reliever for the

986
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 3: Cleveland Indian.

987
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: It'll be great this year because he will just he's

988
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: somehow figured out how to not be a loogie and say, ah,

989
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: I'll just.

990
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: Throw eighty six and no one's gonna touch me.

991
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like you go through position by

992
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: a position, and this team is just equally as good

993
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: a every position, or if not better.

994
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: I love it. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm

995
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: opening days what forty eight hours away. I think we're saying, yeah,

996
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to the home opener too. I'm so excited.

997
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be trying to go out there. I'm so

998
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: jacked up.

999
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: I can't I can't wait.

1000
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: Just like be back in the at least be back

1001
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: in city Field with fans. It's been so long. We

1002
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: lived so close to it and we were never never

1003
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: with a nightmare, and like now it's so close. Blake

1004
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: is at the end of the tunnel.

1005
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: I almost thought about going down to Washington this for

1006
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: these games, but I was like, I don't really want

1007
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: to go to Washington.

1008
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're much of a travel guy. I

1009
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: like a good I like a good travel by playe.

1010
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: You know, four hours, five hours, whatever it's gonna take

1011
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: to Washington, DC. I went to their ballpark. Their ballpark stinks.

1012
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of man. It's not a great area either, No,

1013
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: not a great area.

1014
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: And I mean it will be a Mets home game

1015
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: pretty much because Nats fans don't show up to anything.

1016
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: But absolutely, I'm gonna take shots all I can. But

1017
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: do we open against Nationals every year? How does this

1018
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: keep happening? It feels like it. It was like at

1019
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: least four years in a row. After Nashals.

1020
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: I remember like we had a stretch when we were

1021
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: younger that it felt like we were opening up against

1022
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: the Reds every year as well, which is a weird

1023
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: one because not even individual I don't remember, but I

1024
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: think it was like the like two thousand and three

1025
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: to like two thousand and five Mets opened up at

1026
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: the Reds every year and Mike Piazza hit like two

1027
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: or three home runs in the opening series every year.

1028
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: I was like, this is such a weird, like weird

1029
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: thing that's gonna stick in my head forever.

1030
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: That feels like one of those memories, like you know

1031
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: how everyone misspells the burn steam bears.

1032
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: Yes, that feels like one of those things that you

1033
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: put in your brain. Is just not true? Is that

1034
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: the butterfly effect? The butterfly effects? Difer?

1035
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: This is the Mandela, Yeah, Mandela. Everyone thought else Mandel

1036
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: was dead. He's the same thing with the Picasso effect.

1037
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 3: When do you think Pablo Picasso died?

1038
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: When do I think he died? Yeah, nineteen eighties. Oh,

1039
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: it's pretty it's actually it. Most people would say, like

1040
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: like the early twentieth century, like eighteen hundred, whoa dude? Seriously, people,

1041
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: that was like a thing on Twitter last year. One

1042
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: of the quarantine days.

1043
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 3: I's like Papa Picasso died in the seventies.

1044
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: What do we have a little Mandela effect going on

1045
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: with Lindor too. I'm bringing it back to that where

1046
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: people are like, ah, it's just not that good.

1047
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: Well it probably is good. Eighteen months, Yes, so.

1048
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: Many positive things to talk about. We I think we

1049
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: pretty much covered all the bases except for one. We

1050
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: have one more base to cover, and I'm gonna let

1051
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: you take the control of this one because you I

1052
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: gotta give you credit for blowing up this tweet. Whoever's

1053
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: hearing this, just know James DMed me this tweet at.

1054
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: Let me see what time it was, because it was

1055
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: where is it? It was like moments after it was tweeted.

1056
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: You sent to me at eleven thirty eight, and at

1057
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: eleven thirty eight had like under one hundred likes, no

1058
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: quote tweets, no one was talking about.

1059
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: It, nothing.

1060
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: I then quote tweeted it and this thing has blown

1061
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: up to over a thousand quote tweets, over one hundred retweets,

1062
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: seventeen hundred likes.

1063
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: How many replies does this thing have? I can't I

1064
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: can't even check. I'm sure, I'm sure.

1065
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: Gary Myers, who is the owner of this great tweet

1066
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: has been ratioed.

1067
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: It is truly one of the most awful, awful tweets,

1068
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: awful takes I've ever seen in sports.

1069
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: Over a thousand replies. By the way, this is a

1070
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: guy who is a podcast host.

1071
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: And he's he's he's an old school like New York

1072
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 3: sports beat rider. He worked for the Daily News for

1073
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: a long time. Actually met him before really, which is

1074
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: kind of funny.

1075
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, great writer.

1076
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: I read him when I was young, and I was

1077
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 3: like reading newspapers like a boomer. But he Okay, here's

1078
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: a tweet. Yes, getting preface, Gary Meyers, great writer. Probably

1079
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: pass his time. I'll go back into it. I remember

1080
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: Mickey Mannal signing for one hundred thousand dollars for the

1081
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty three season. Francisco Lindor just turned down two

1082
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars per game from the Mets.

1083
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: When is enough enough?

1084
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Speaker 3: He was offered ten years for three twenty five, wants

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00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: twelve years for three eighty five until his age thirty

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00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: nine season. Now the good look for mister smile, especially

1087
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: in a pandemic.

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00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: Especial to guilt trip him a little bit.

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00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: Mickey Mannal was drunk in his five hundred and fifty

1090
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: home runs, So why can't these guys do it with

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00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: all the machines in the world, Like just the fact that.

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00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: Like inflation apparently doesn't matter to him.

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00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: Also, like, you know, teams make a little bit more

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00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: money now we have national television syndication.

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00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: You know, Major League Baseball is a billion dollars.

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00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 3: Yes, So it's I mean, like just I feel I

1098
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: think the Yankees were sold in the nineteen sixties for

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00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: like thirteen million dollars, possibly even less. Yeah, And I think,

1100
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 3: and I think Forbes just came out recently that they're

1101
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: the most valuable sports franchise in the Americas, and they

1102
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: are by like a good margin over the like top

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00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: five teams, like maybe almost double what Number two with

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00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: Gary Mind didn't even account for inflation, which would have

1105
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: put that hundred thousand dollars right pushing kissing one million

1106
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: Mickey Mantle.

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Speaker 2: Was he greedy? Yeah, greedy bastard asking for one hundred

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00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: thousand back in nineteen.

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00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: Kind of a bitch, Mickey Mickey play's entire career in

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00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 3: a torny A cl damn. And I wish they tore

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00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: the other one too.

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00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: And even then, the people that are giving Mickey Mantle

1113
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: shit probably for like one hundred thousand dollars.

1114
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: My goodness, was he's playing a game. Come on, and

1115
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: it's like, look at this greedy punk. Well, he's not

1116
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: gonna get a second job in the off seas. He's

1117
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: not gonna shine shoes with his teammates. Final see Francisco

1118
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: Lindoor drive the bus. I don't want him on the team.

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00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I mean you get if cleaning the toilets,

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00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: whatever it takes. If he's getting paid, you know, three

1121
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five million dollars, he'd better be he'd

1122
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: better be working for that three hundred and eighty five

1123
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: million dollars, especially especially in a pandemic.

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00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: Can't forget that, especially a pandemic, specially a pandemic because.

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00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: The pandemic has any sort of effect on how much

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00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: of Francisco Indors should make as a baseball player.

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00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah no, it's really it's really affected the market in

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00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: the offseason.

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00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: It did affect a lot of the lower market, but

1130
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: the top notch guys are always gonna get paid.

1131
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: It's never going to change. It's premium. It's premium talent

1132
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: like this is what you need to win championship. Mike

1133
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: frances To put it, put up a good run for

1134
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: his money. Is close, but Mike, I'm sure he'll get

1135
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll get there. One week. Mike will be

1136
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: a bad Mets take. It's comming. We know it's coming.

1137
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: But right now, Gary Myers, Week two, episode number two

1138
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,959
Speaker 1: of The Mets the Podcast, give him his crown whatever

1139
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: it is we need to like. Maybe it's like an

1140
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: upside down crown. Something goes on Gary Meyers head for

1141
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: just the absolute worst tweet.

1142
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just like a nice ball sack.

1143
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, just balls on his face. Oh my god, we're

1144
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: having too much fun with that. I'm just just picturing it,

1145
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: and it's it's funny.

1146
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 2: It's funny. Balls are funny. I mean, what can I say?

1147
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is gonna be our last

1148
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: podcast before opening Day. I mean, were I listen if

1149
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: Francisco Indoors signs an extension. I don't think we're gonna

1150
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: come on here and do another podcast. You know what,

1151
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: our opinion's gonna be here.

1152
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 2: Fuck.

1153
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're happy, we're excited, and you know you can

1154
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: find me on YouTube and you can find James's Twitter

1155
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: Jeter had no range. We're gonna be talking about it there,

1156
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: but we won't have a podcast episode until what we're

1157
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: probably coming back next week early next week after the

1158
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: first series. We're gonna come back talk about opening day series,

1159
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: talk about the opening weekend preview, what's coming up next?

1160
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: That's what you guys. Can expect. A dual week or

1161
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: twice a week podcast again.

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00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: That's that's probably the wording. But twice a week, dual week,

1163
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: dual weekly. Yeah, you know, great with my words. A

1164
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: week all I do is talking from a camera all

1165
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: day for my job.

1166
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: Can't even think of those words.

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00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, twice a weekly, okay, bi monthly would be

1168
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: twice yeah, okay.

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00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: We're sure. Semi weekly every other week.

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00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: Oh I like that too, Okay, but yeah, twice a week.

1171
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: You can expect to see us Monday, Thursday, Friday ish,

1172
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: depending on you know, what the Mets schedule is looking like,

1173
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: talking Mets, talking baseball, Mets up, keeping it positive. A

1174
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: lot of things to be positive about here. Closing remarks

1175
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: signed Francisco Lindoor. That's pretty much right.

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Speaker 2: Indoor Opening days soon. Let's get messed up. Let's get

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00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: messed up.

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00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: Make sure you guys follow us on Twitter, Instagram, the

1179
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: YouTube channel mets up Podcast. If you're interested in the

1180
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 1: video version, it'll be up on YouTube. You can listen

1181
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: to us on Apple, Spotify, Google Podcasts, pretty much anywhere

1182
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: that there is a podcast, you can find us, so make.

1183
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: Sure that you do.

1184
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: Make sure you're listening. And I think that's we're gonna

1185
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: wrap up episode number two of the mets Ub Podcast.

1186
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: Opening days and forty eight hours. We're catching that fat

1187
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: dub and we'll see you guys all next time on

1188
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: the mets Up Podcast.

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00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: Peace Out,