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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to a special edition of All the Smoke. Man, Jack,

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Speaker 1: this this man right here got its started two thousand nineteen. Man,

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Speaker 1: what did us to honor of being our first guest?

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Speaker 1: Now we are hundred and fifty hundreds, close to hundred

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Speaker 1: fifty episodes in and decided to come back around? But Jack,

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Speaker 1: since you uh executive produced this play talking about who

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Speaker 1: our guest is and what he's doing with us now

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Speaker 1: well from being first guest on All the Smoke, you know,

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Speaker 1: our war winning first guests. Um, now my brother has

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Speaker 1: has ventured off, you know, he went back to school

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Speaker 1: and he's taken found another past for us, second love,

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Speaker 1: which is golf. And it was only right for me

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Speaker 1: to like, Okay, this is our brother. Who else has

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Speaker 1: been a trend set in the golf world bringing it

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Speaker 1: to the HBU, bringing light to the HBU and to

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Speaker 1: young black man to golf other than my brother JEREDD. Smith.

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Speaker 1: We can get the inside from him at least one

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Speaker 1: the months to check it would bring him into the family.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a great idea and I brought

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Speaker 1: it to Brian and Gerald and Jerald was down with it.

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Speaker 1: So we helped love to have him back and happen

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Speaker 1: to having back and welcome him to the family. My brother,

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Speaker 1: Gerald Smith, appreciatelcome to the show. Welcome to the Showtime

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Speaker 1: Basketball Family. Yes, sir, Yes, sir, welcome my brother. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's get to it, man, what is college life like

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Speaker 1: for someone of yourself who experienced, you know, straight out

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Speaker 1: of high school to the NBA, a decorated NBA career,

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Speaker 1: someone who was kind of ahead of their time. Will

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Speaker 1: touch on that a little bit later, but now you've

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Speaker 1: kind of not really humbled yourself, but just kind of

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Speaker 1: taking a step back to get your education and you

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Speaker 1: found your second passion, which is golf. So what has

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Speaker 1: it been like for you these past year or so? Man,

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Speaker 1: It's been, Uh, it's been a learning experience all around,

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Speaker 1: you know, from competitive standpoint, from something were so used

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Speaker 1: to doing and being athletic, and you know, it's being

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Speaker 1: in that competitive environment. I'm always at the beginning, I'm

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Speaker 1: in the learning processes of Uh, from school standpoint, I

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Speaker 1: was never really that, you know, the kid to be

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Speaker 1: academically you know there for school, having you know, growing

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Speaker 1: up with disabilities and whatnot, and uh, it was for me,

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Speaker 1: it was always about being at school, being in the hallways,

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Speaker 1: messed with the girls, keeping with the homies, you know

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Speaker 1: fact you know being that for me, I used to

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Speaker 1: never you know, cut school because cool is like the

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Speaker 1: place to be. That's what all the homies was. That,

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Speaker 1: That's what all the able was. It's just never. It

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Speaker 1: was just never the fact that I was in class.

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Speaker 1: But now, you know, looking at it from a different perspective,

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Speaker 1: going back as a thirty six year old man, um,

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Speaker 1: it gives you. It gives you a totally different respect

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Speaker 1: for you know, the people who were able to consistently

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Speaker 1: do the schoolwork or whatnot. I truly commended them, was

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Speaker 1: commended you know, the players that I play with and

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Speaker 1: so the whole you know, academic side, I felt ex side,

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Speaker 1: it's been just a learning experience and uh I really

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Speaker 1: generation about how they think, what they you know, how

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Speaker 1: as we get older, we just think we know everything

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Speaker 1: because we've been through so many different experiences and we, uh,

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Speaker 1: younger generations, with technology and the way sensitivity is wrong.

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Speaker 1: But then whether it be sports or just you know,

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Speaker 1: pure humanity, learning about mental health and all these different

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Speaker 1: So you're in the middle of your second semester in

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Speaker 1: North Carolina, A and T. How did going back to

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Speaker 1: And one day we were in in between the breaks

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, what're you doing, bro? Like

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Speaker 1: why you keep going to the computer? Like left? He was,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's like got work to do. He would

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Speaker 1: And then he went in depth about going back to

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Speaker 1: started making so much sense to me, or continuously to

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Speaker 1: He really took me on the roller coaster of emotions

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Speaker 1: of you know, where I was, where I've been to,

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Speaker 1: opposing what everybody else's experiences of me has been. Because

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Speaker 1: you know, like we all know, people judge you off

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Speaker 1: you just performer, which you're really good at, not express

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Speaker 1: And it's it's a it's a it's an amazing feeling

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Speaker 1: to to have that and people to embrace me, to

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Speaker 1: and she was like, no, the school would be great

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Speaker 1: for him. You know what I'm saying, Like the love

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Speaker 1: and impact that we have as as Aggies and and

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Speaker 1: the foundation we built and the way we carry ourselves,

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Speaker 1: and like, you know, she really made it a point

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Speaker 1: for me to understand, like, whatever you do from going

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Speaker 1: you get the ball, you can get a shot the ball,

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00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: blow your feet above your feet, wind blowing ten miles

427
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: an hour, twenty miles an hour, left right, you'd be

428
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: uphill downhill. However, you know what I'm saying. In the basketball,

429
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: we got you know, many four by fifty. You got

430
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: the same spots that we can play in every night consistently.

431
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: You know, the only thing that really changes the rings

432
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: um sometimes it's a low colder in there, but not

433
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: by much out there. Everything comes into play, so you

434
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: and you gotta remember that, you know, mentally to stand

435
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: in so many different elements that come into play with

436
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: every shot and m you know, sometimes they say too

437
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: much information isn't good for you. But if I know

438
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: you know the hoop, if I know you shoot at

439
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: this position, I'm trying to run you off that spot.

440
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: But in golf, you're trying to get it to a

441
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: certain spot as many times as you, Kennedy, because you

442
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: know that's where you that's what you're good at, you

443
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And as an individual sport, it's

444
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: hard because there's nobody else to rely on but yourself.

445
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: So you gotta make it happen. And uh, it's just

446
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: a mental challenge every every every round for me. I

447
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: mean it's not it hasn't been, you know, It's just

448
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: I haven't been consistent enough to be able to just

449
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: bridge through the game. But even you know, even the pros,

450
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: you know, they go out there and shoot sixty four

451
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: sixty five, They're gonna walk in the clubhouse and said

452
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: they should have set two and sixty three. It's just

453
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: the game, obviously, you and Jack, you know, going straight

454
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: to the league. I was someone who went to college

455
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: and the majority of the time we don't have I

456
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: say ninety eight percent of time, people like us, we

457
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: don't have no money coming into college, you know what

458
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: I mean. So that you got a booster off the

459
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: rip like Daddy Day, I've ever see what I'm talking about.

460
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: You know, he's seeing his jersey everywhere being sold at

461
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: the store, but he ain't got money to get no food,

462
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think this n

463
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: IL thing is is a long time overdue, and I'm

464
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: glad to see that the college athletes are are are

465
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: definitely benefiting. What I think is even dope, though, is

466
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: you're sharing the sugar, you know, I mean, like the

467
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: ship is coming your way and you're opening doors up

468
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: for your teammates, which is a beautiful thing. Yeah, yeah,

469
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: that's the goal. Man continuously um sharing it with with

470
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: with my like mind to people and as well as

471
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: to trying to build generational love for more black than minorities. Um,

472
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a tough it's a tough battle. But

473
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: for something like this, you know, it should have it

474
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: should have been because there's those difference from anybody else

475
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: over seas being a professional and getting paid and all

476
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: of that, and they're coming over here and being a

477
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: top five pick and stop nothing, you know what I'm saying.

478
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just another avenue to keep us

479
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 1: in the dark and uh, people to get rich. Uh.

480
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: Obviously not to mention the type of money you're making,

481
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: but is it good money? Like if you're a regular

482
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: college student right now, is it? Is it or the deals? Like, damn,

483
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: it's some good bread for a college student. Yeah, for sure.

484
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: M sure it's a little bit more for me because um,

485
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: just because I got so many followers and outreach when

486
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: you do the analytics of it. Um, but it's uh,

487
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: it's that. Yeah, it's good. I would say it's really

488
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: good money for you know, somebody who's in college to

489
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: be able to take care of what they need to

490
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: take care of, live live, you know, and within moderation um.

491
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: The probably some of the professors and whatnot wouldn't like

492
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: it because they'd been making more than them and maybe

493
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: somebody so. But from that's the point, that's what makes it.

494
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: That's what makes it tough because we are already it's

495
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: we already behind the a bot because we overvalue what

496
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: we do. You know what I'm saying, The overvalue sports,

497
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: and we have our value this uh entertainment so much

498
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: as and we deem it so much more important as

499
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: academics and some who's actually teaching your kids. You get

500
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 1: somebody who's teaching your kids thirty as a as an

501
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: accumulation over a year, thirty thousand dollars and more kids

502
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: spend more time with your kids than you do. But

503
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: you will spend a hundred thousand dollars on floor seats

504
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: or around whatever, around the arena, Like that's ridiculous, Like

505
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: we'll go buy jerseys and the papilia and everything else.

506
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: But you rather, you know what I'm saying, you really

507
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: think about it. That's that's what we value. And it's

508
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: just this is that where it's at ain't gonna change either. Nope. Wow,

509
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: So knowing everything you know now this is just a hypothetical,

510
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: and knowing that you would still have a long NBA career,

511
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: would you do college? Um, if you had a chance to,

512
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: if you were a senior in high school, would you

513
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: dump straight to the league again or would you around

514
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: the college for a couple of years? First, you know,

515
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't strike to leave. Yeah, I was about to say, yeah,

516
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: ain't no way, ain't no way. I wouldn't because honestly,

517
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: like if you really think about it, like jack and

518
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: go to school right now, Bro, he go to school

519
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: and play whatever sport he wanted. But but basketball, you

520
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: gotta go ability. You could do it literally whatever you

521
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: wanted to do and bring that talent and then bring

522
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: that notoriety to HBCU. Well, I was low key. I

523
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: gotta I can't say the name, but I kind of

524
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: gotta offer the coach to coach at HBCUE be like

525
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: uh be like ice cube on higher learning in the dorm. Still, well,

526
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: I just took a job at Jackson State. Uh my

527
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: will my way? And yeah, I didn't know what you

528
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: do because I thought you had. I thought it was

529
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: saying before you have to have a degree, that's what

530
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: you know? Yeah, you know his ways right, you know

531
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: around that, Yeah, sir, yeah, man, I um, I wish

532
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: I was physically fit enough to go back to school

533
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: and play a sport like football, play football in shape football?

534
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: Okay we would you be offensive alignment, I'll be I'll

535
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: be you know, I'll be a red zone receiver or

536
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: a safety. Okay, I'm not. I keep going back and

537
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: forth with it. I'll still at that size and wait,

538
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: but it's about that time you gotta make a decision.

539
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna do it. Oh you thought

540
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: about going back and play football, Yeah, that'd be crazy.

541
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: You didn't play baseball growing up? Swish. Yeah, I played

542
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: baseball football as Yeah, I think I think baseball would

543
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: be dope. I ain't hit nothing, not any Yeah, that's

544
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: once you see that Hunter mouth out fastball coming at

545
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: your head or hit your d changes your whole life

546
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: for sure. Recently made a splash the Jackson State flipping

547
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: a number one recruit, Travis Travis Hunter from Florida State

548
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: to j S. You do you see more athletes doing that?

549
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean, we've we've seen a couple of since Travis,

550
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: But do you see more in other sports as well

551
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: as football? Um? Yeah, I think so the more you

552
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: know UM basketball coaches and former professional NBA guys um

553
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: started coming back and coaching HBCUs, I think you'll see

554
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: a lot more. One thing I really have you you

555
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: know for opinion, because he went to Memphis. You know,

556
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: he's bringing so many young kids into into his system.

557
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: He's got a great system, and he's got um, he

558
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: got uh you know Mary brown Man Brown Yeah, like

559
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: and she you know what I'm saying, Mike Miller, You've

560
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: got real you got real guys lead guys in those positions.

561
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: And I would like to see that more, you know

562
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: again at the HBCUs and and to running that and

563
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: and really building powerhouses within our own school systems. You know,

564
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, for the education

565
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna be the same. They'll never be the

566
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: same that you can get from hbcun A, p W I.

567
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: I really don't care. Nobody says it's not gonna be.

568
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: It's just a difference. Um. And on top of that

569
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: coaching and that experience, you know what I'm saying, you

570
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: got you were seeing that letter from the greatest, like

571
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: you think talk about the kid's going to Florida State,

572
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: going to Jackson State. He's he's plays the position of

573
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: the greatest person who ever played that position. M So

574
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: why wouldn't he go there? Said like who can teach

575
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: them better? Who when you still look at the football

576
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: the young recruits and stuff like, why wouldn't they go

577
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: play for the Hall of Fame. I was talking to

578
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: every a couple of weeks ago, and uh, you know,

579
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: he was getting into the job, trying to get in

580
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: a position at Miami. I was just sitting there like,

581
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: they they need five safety that was better than everybe

582
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: three maybe two. You can't. You can't. And you sit

583
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: here and look at the kids that that go into

584
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: the schools and stuff like that, why wouldn't they want

585
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: to play for the one of the greatest players ever

586
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: at the after you don't think you know what he's

587
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: talking about? Politics? Usual, Hey, last time we spoke, it

588
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: was literally right before you signed the uh with the Lakers.

589
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: You guys went into the bubble, won a championship, run

590
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: us back through that whole situation of you actually being signed,

591
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: going to the Lakers, and then that run through the bubble. Man.

592
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: So I was, you know, I was out there working

593
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: out a thing like almost like slaving myself to hope

594
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: some came through, and uh, most the bubble situation happened

595
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: and they opened up those roster spots. Um, they really

596
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, offered me a position just in case the situation,

597
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: in case something happened, in case somebody go down or whatever.

598
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: And I knew that going into it, and they really

599
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: wanted me in that, you know, more of a veteran

600
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: leadership road, and uh I was you know, I wasn't

601
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: a person that was too hung on my pride or

602
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: what not. And I definitely wanted to play and I

603
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: wanted to be a back and part of the league

604
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: in the situation to where again, you know, you're around

605
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: with you're accustomed to and what you love so much.

606
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: So you know, I easily jumped at it. And uh

607
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: they brought it to you going right and rank going

608
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: into the bubble like a week or two and uh,

609
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: passing out of COVID ship that should be nuts. Uh,

610
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: but it was dope, man, being around the guys again. Um,

611
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: a little bit too much being in that bubble like that.

612
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: But man, I ain't gonna lie. Bro when you start

613
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: when you're with somebody every day for like three months,

614
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: and it ain't your lady. It's like it's it's it's

615
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: not just one dude, It ain't two dudes. It's a

616
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: three hundred dudes. Mm hmm. You know what I'm saying.

617
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: Then you've got people regulating where you can't go, where

618
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: you can't go, you go. You gotta stand on this side.

619
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: You gotta do this, Like, bro, you don't start this.

620
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't start Google. I don't operate that deal with

621
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: rules and regulations like the So you continuously tell me

622
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: you can't go over here and you can't go over there.

623
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: You gotta do this. You gotta do that, like, bro,

624
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: just think that not at thirty four or thirty five

625
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: question since it's uh, pretty much legal now in the NBA,

626
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: was you know to mention no names? Was it what? What?

627
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: What was a tree in the air in the bubble?

628
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it reusally blowing it down? Okay, but yeah

629
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: I knew it. That's the abundating But you know it's

630
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: you don't That's the only thing. Know. That was the

631
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: only way you could really um, you could really function

632
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: in that joke. So it was for that that was

633
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: more like I was gonna let you say it first.

634
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna just say we was on FaceTime when

635
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: you were telling us, and he was on FaceTime. He

636
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: was rolling up and telling us how many where he

637
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: was when he was in the bubble We I was

638
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: gonna for real, he was in the chat. I was

639
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: every night. Bro tell us on the other side like

640
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: it was wow, but it was it was cool because

641
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad it happened because it finally broke that barry

642
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: in that stigment that you can't play and all of

643
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: this it was drug, it was this and that. And

644
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: when you go to the bubble basketball, some of the

645
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: dudes like Gring and some of the dudes playing it

646
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: was like practice games kind of situation. So someone really

647
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: can't play that well for the thirty thousand, But at

648
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: the same time, you've seen some of the best level

649
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: of basketball you've seen me to dude still doing what

650
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: they was doing, like kicking, killing, cool though, you know

651
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so like stop making it seem like

652
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: it's so you know what I'm saying, Like it's just

653
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: like it's an alcohol or something like you you know

654
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: you ain't out that drink drunk, just getting sixty like

655
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: that that shouldn't happen, you know what I'm saying. But

656
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: when you you can be at peace with your mind,

657
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: your body is or so, and you can go out

658
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: there and just hoop like that's all you want. What

659
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: was the locker room like when y'all saw Milwalker said

660
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: there wasn't there was not They weren't gonna play. Everybody

661
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: was really confused, you know what I'm saying, Like, well,

662
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: like we didn't. For one, we didn't really know who

663
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: started the thing. And then you know, when when one

664
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: of them one started, you know which I respect, somebody

665
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: else came up behind him like now I ain't gonna

666
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: let you do that by yourself, and then the whole

667
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: team you started to do it. So when you start,

668
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: when I thought of it in that perspective, I thought

669
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: it was dumpe um for the locker room. Again, everybody

670
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: was confused, like what's going on? Why is this happening?

671
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: Why is that happening? Why are we choosing now to

672
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: say this? And at a third a lot of since

673
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: was raised, And for me, it's like, you know, fortunately

674
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: it did happen because it brought so much more awareness

675
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: to me and how things actually work within the industries

676
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: and all of that. So, um, it was those meetings

677
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: was crazy, bro, because it's like we stopped everybody again.

678
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: It's like it's almost like Kent. You know what I'm saying.

679
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: You got counselors, which is coaches, You've got all the players.

680
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: You put you in this big gas ball room and

681
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: then we all you know, somebody talk. This coach talk,

682
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: this player talk, that player talk. Just you know what

683
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it was it was funny to hear

684
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: different perspectives and how people really think of the game.

685
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's just that much

686
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: more bigger than somebody's lives or what we've been you know,

687
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: fighting and overcovering before, even when we was allowed to

688
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: play in the NBA. You know what I'm saying, Like,

689
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: it's different, like like when you really take it back

690
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: to something bigger than the game, when people don't realize

691
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, not as bigger than the games. They're like, no,

692
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of ship as bigger than the game.

693
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like, at the end of

694
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: the day, it's a game. Um, I love it. I

695
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: love the game a hundred percent, but I'm not going

696
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: to sacrifice and compromise who I am for the game,

697
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying like that, just at some

698
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: point you gotta have you known integrity with there, who

699
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: you are, what you're staying for, because I know I

700
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: stand for something way more than the game. Like you know,

701
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: when I look at so many quote when people don't

702
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: want to get quote into quote unquote politics, you've got

703
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: to because I think the data politics affects your family

704
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: and how how to ship, move or how to work right,

705
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So as you look at

706
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: it from different perspectives. Again, I didn't have that, but

707
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have had that mindset in eighteen nineteen one

708
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: years old, and I'm saying I was more. I was

709
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: obviously way more into me and whatever I had going

710
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: on and hooping and other than actually looking at it

711
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: from a broader perspective of how should gonna affect my

712
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: generational uh A legacy with my kids and my grandkids

713
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: and ship like that, because I want you know, there's

714
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: so many people before us that it made sacrifices like

715
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: Jim Brown and all these dude A Lead and all

716
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: these dudes. You know what I'm saying, Like that like

717
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: to to sit here and just just so we could

718
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: continuously make a dollars like spitting in their face, bro,

719
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: because it's like the ship that they went through and

720
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson and all of that. You know what I'm saying,

721
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: Like when you really getting down to the meat potatoes,

722
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: like the Negro leagues and how people how we was

723
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: treated coming into their league and didn't be able to

724
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: dominate the league and take over their league and be

725
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: the pioneers today league to have the greatest of all

726
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: time at every position, all that, when you think about

727
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: all of that and still not be you know what

728
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, accepted or wanted or you know what I'm saying, like,

729
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: that's that's to me. That's where I take it to

730
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: a different level of on my doom and I just

731
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: aiding the betting to this because I don't if that's

732
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: the case, I could be easily removed. And that's why

733
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: I really don't even make no cause about it normal,

734
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't even I haven't

735
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: picked up a ball and nine months because my passionate

736
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: love is into what I'm doing. But also it's just

737
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: like it's so much it makes you not want to

738
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: do it normal. You know what I'm saying, Like, I

739
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: don't want to I want to keep uh aiding in

740
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: the direction of something that ain't It ain't changing nothing,

741
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, it ain't. Okay, we

742
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: wear patches and all this other stuff on the jersey email,

743
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: but one we don't know where that money going to

744
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: quote unquote all the spind money and everything else that

745
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: they it goes to charity? What charity? Who? Like all

746
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: of this ship? Like if you can't, yeah, who benefit

747
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: from this? Because if that's right, if that's the case,

748
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: if you find me a million dollars in a million

749
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: dollars to my to my community. You know what I'm saying.

750
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: So there's a million hollars that you community said that community.

751
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: Don't just sit here and saying, oh, we're just taking

752
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: this and we're gonna do the charity. Who charity? What charity?

753
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: Last last people we knew who was in charging ship

754
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: like that was in jail. So what's up? Yeah, I'm

755
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: saying that ship. I literally just had this conversation the

756
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: other day because I got to find them at six

757
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, Jack, you got five millions. I'm not sure

758
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: how much you gotta fine jar, But to me, first

759
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: of all, we should be able to pick where our

760
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: money is going, like don't let it go to a

761
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: pot where you say it's going to charity, and like

762
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: you said, who's charity? What charity? What color are the people?

763
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: Who is it really helping? You know what I mean?

764
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna take our money from us, we should definitely

765
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: have a say in who it goes to help. Well,

766
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: and didn't that help? And also and also we donating

767
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: and we should maybe to write it all oh good

768
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: call I need it, talk to me. I need it

769
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: because they're doing it every time like I looked at

770
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: it like you. And it's a difference because given it

771
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: being around in the Gulf space and you're really learning

772
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: how people work on the business left, like you're with

773
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: somebody for four and a half hours, like out there

774
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: you can, for one, you know who really is that

775
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: at some point like you ain't just y'all talking to

776
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: anything else, so that you're really getting to understanding of

777
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: who you're dealing with and what they what they got

778
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: going on? You taking a step further, get the NFO

779
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: continuously talk to him whatever whatever, and they really give

780
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: you the ins and outs of their business and how

781
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: they maneuver and all of that. Bro, it's a dirty

782
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: game with so many different levels. It's just that we've

783
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: played it only on this superior level at this for

784
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: so long. This is the only way we sit. But

785
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: it's so many different levels to the grimy ship that

786
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: go on. Bro, it's it's it's it's crazy. Like. That's

787
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 1: why I try to continuously inspired the youth and try

788
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 1: to give them ways of you know what I'm saying,

789
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: not the ways we thought, more of the grouping up

790
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: and like, you know, more group economics, like because honestly,

791
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: that's the only way it's gonna work when you're going

792
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: to an HBCU. It's like for me to look at

793
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: these kids and them, alright, cool, you're an architect, you

794
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: the developer, you the interior decorator, you the root for

795
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: you the landscape, and y'all got everybody y'all need right here.

796
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: Y'all got everything you need right here at seventy voo

797
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: bookoo vo. Hey, go do that. Y'all create one business,

798
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: all of y'all get a percentage of the company, and

799
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: then y'all create a multiple businesses and then you do,

800
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: you can work with other kids and other hbc use.

801
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like this is so many

802
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: different ways of networking and trying to connectivity within the

803
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: school system and hbc use. It's it's it's dope. And

804
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to continuously give these kids and advice

805
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: because they always think they need a celebrity or some

806
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: super big hit to know, you just need selling to

807
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: you like mind appears they want to do the same

808
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: thing that's interested in. Y'all can make a killing just

809
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: that fast. You get along with you get the tip

810
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: thouars and you go to dolls, you go twenty thousan

811
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: or whatever. Alright, cool, you know what, I know, the

812
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: celebrity here gonna think it's great out there? Are you

813
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: going to invest two hundred thousands? You know, up and running?

814
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: You move it, you populate. That's that's the way it's

815
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: gotta go. I'm saying. I staid of just looking at

816
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: it from such a long shot around you get you know,

817
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: I try to continuously give business proposals and stuff like

818
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: that in different in different rounds, because you gotta have

819
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: that different outlook on again in another podcast out there,

820
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: I talked about the you know, the euro centric mindset.

821
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: It's always about me, It's always about me. We learned

822
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: we're embedded into that. You know what I'm saying. We

823
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: gotta get more back to that Afro central mindset where's

824
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: more about community, it's more about tribe. It was like, alright, cool,

825
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: hopefully remember pool you and yeah, like we gotta we

826
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: gotta get back to that because we don't and you

827
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: can't win. You can't. You can't be behind the eight

828
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: go so far with which where we are to be

829
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: able to think just one or two people gonna do it,

830
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: five people gonna do it. We've got a couple of billionaires. Yeah,

831
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: we've got five or six billionaires. It's a highness of them,

832
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like we expect. And we

833
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: got one owner in professional sports, one majority owner of

834
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: professional sports. Like come on. Recently, Jamal Crawford retired after

835
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: twenty years, a little bitter sweet for him. He wanted

836
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: to touch twenty. Are you at peace with the way

837
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: your NBA career ended? Um? First of all, shouting to Jamal, man,

838
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: that was that's my dog right there, man, that's just

839
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: a true hooping bro. All respects to jamal Man. Um

840
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: me no, because it's like, UM, I just I feel

841
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: like I just tell who you know what I'm saying,

842
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: Like that's the only thing about me that I feel like.

843
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: Don't let me, let me hoop, let me excuse, let

844
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: me rock into the wheels follow you know what I'm saying.

845
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: If I feel like I can't do it no more?

846
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: All right, cool? I don't just the way it went down,

847
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: just it was it was seeming fishy and funny to me.

848
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: Us another backstory we're talking about later, but it just

849
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: didn't sit well with me. UM. But I'm happy with

850
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: you know, I had a long career, sixteen years. When

851
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: I look at it, UM, so many people who haven't

852
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: had the opportunity who touched me just couldn't stick or

853
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: you know, played two or three years, four years. You know,

854
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm fortunate in so many different ways for wanting to

855
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: be successful in win championships. UM, to be again be

856
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: around UH ship a decade and a half for us. UM,

857
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: that's that's a tough thing to do, especially when you're

858
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: dealing with you know the greatest, you know, the great UM.

859
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody UM the other day and

860
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: it's like, man, you played sixteen years. I'm like, yeah,

861
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: He's like, who's who's like an older person to these

862
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: young kids? Were really remember that you played against something

863
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: like Brola for these for this generation, I played against

864
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: Reggie Like that was That's that's tough for me, you

865
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like I played against Reggie Miller

866
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: bro like a hold like his last year was my

867
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: first year. So like walking in to walk into a

868
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: thirty ask whoming by Reggie like that was tough, Like

869
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: for somebody I was there. I was there, Yeah, like

870
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: that she was to walk into a game, I see

871
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, jackl mad Beady like that,

872
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 1: she was like hey thing to me. So I don't

873
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: want to regrets on it, because I really lived it

874
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: how I wanted to live it, you know what I'm

875
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: saying that. And I'm fortunate for a lot of the

876
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: experiences in the friendships that I'm grown. Um, obviously some

877
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: of them isn't always what's gonna be and you know

878
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: all of that, but the ones who sticked it all

879
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: stick and I'm fortunate for that. Unfortunately, it's talking a

880
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: lot of grime ship about the business and how people

881
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: look at you and perceive you and in perception and

882
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: how you know, it's about ratings and whatever else, because

883
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: people really sell a soul just for a dollar and

884
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: really really see that on the on the real broader skill.

885
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: So for for that it's like it's unfortunately because you

886
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: can't find the genuineness sometimes but at the end of

887
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: the day, that's their own games. So you're trying to

888
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: try not to focus on that. Facts. Um, I don't

889
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: know if you have time to kind of sit back

890
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: and look, but just kind of understanding how influential and

891
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: almost before your time you wore too you were to

892
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: the way the game is played today. You know, two

893
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: times six Man of the Year. Um, you know, the

894
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: way you shot the ball, the way you shot your threes,

895
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: the way you celebrated, I mean rock and Supreme arm

896
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: bands and tattoos, your celebrations. That's really all the NBA

897
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: is about these days. How do you look back on

898
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: it and and did you face any backlash just kind

899
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: of being you obviously I know they answer this question

900
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: while you were doing it. Yeah, for sure. I think

901
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: the game since my style, you know, um, shooting, you know,

902
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: especially from just a plane standpoint, um, shooting the ball,

903
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: attacking the room and stuff like that, uh, spacing the floor. Um,

904
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: it's it's it's fun to see because I like to see,

905
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, the game being put in a more of

906
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: a position to where you can see, um, you know,

907
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: the young guys taking care taking their talents to the

908
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: next level, especially to my late John, Like John is

909
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players to watch when I do

910
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: watch the games. Um, so you know, and being able

911
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: to express yourself is everything within the game. I feel

912
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: like I feel like I was a little ahead of

913
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: my time and how I was expressing myself and though

914
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: what I was doing them. But at the end of

915
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: the day, it was just I do feel like it

916
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: was taking for granted and in the sense you know

917
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it was just looked at and

918
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: deemed as something so terrible, you know what I'm saying.

919
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: Like for like when you think about the fune like

920
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: I gott I'll take it back to the fines and

921
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: ship like you think about that like they used to.

922
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: Really they suspended me five games for a week, bro,

923
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: they really they suspended me for that. Now you just

924
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: smoke whatever, Oh yeah, you're good. Whatever, No test or

925
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: nothing ain't even about that, so you don't want to

926
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: get none of that back. Bro. So now it's okay,

927
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm saying, like you pulling me,

928
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: showing up, pulling up for three talking ship somebody face

929
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: they can you atte like? So now that ship is okay?

930
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: Like that should losing good like people going in the

931
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: next day talking cash it about you any then you

932
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: lose money and contracts and about y'all want to get

933
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: none of that back? All right? All that sneaking and

934
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: geeing we was doing. Yeah, like that's what I'm saying.

935
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: I love I love way you do this, so listen.

936
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: But when I was doing that, oh, he's just that's

937
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: a bad guy. He's he's he's a very selfish teammate.

938
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: He's like it's about him. But I was because I'm celebrating,

939
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: all right, that's what look right, I'm having fun kicking

940
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: the g ass. When they would do the exact same

941
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: thing to me if I was on the other end,

942
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: but it would be it would be cool. Then alright, cool,

943
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: let's let's say that what's up with your Lakers? Man?

944
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: What's just what what's your piano? Lakers? What do you

945
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: think Broun gonna do. Man, I don't know. Man, Honestly,

946
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: it's it's tough because not for real, like think I

947
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: think it's tough because you know, for him, he in

948
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: a position to where he got a lot of great

949
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: pieces around him, like he like you really look at

950
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: the people around them in the on that team. He

951
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: got great players, He got the White he got one

952
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: of the best rum protectors ever. You know, I'm saying,

953
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: you got, you know, a d who can be he

954
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: can be healthy. He cannot be healthy, but he's when

955
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's he's he one of the best players

956
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: in the league. He got Russell's been knowing the average

957
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: triple double at the drop of a hat like that

958
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: ain't even a question. Uh what what's the young boy

959
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: that you got? Trevor Reason one of the greatest six

960
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: men and contributors to come off the bench that we've

961
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: seen consistently. Yeah. Uh, Avery Bradley amazing on ball defender

962
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: Taylor Hunt. Tucker is one of the best young young

963
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: kids in the game. Second third year player who six

964
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: with your six, seven him to the ball, attack the room.

965
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: It's funny because because I don't think it's I think

966
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: it's a lot of uh pointing the finger, and the

967
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: Lakers as are in the spotlight in the situation to

968
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: where they always gonna be front page news no matter

969
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: who's on the team. And then when you add one

970
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: of the greatest too ever played on that on to

971
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: that team and you win the championship with that team

972
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: two years prior, there's a lot of expectations or whatever.

973
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: It's just just Lakers in general. But when you add

974
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: the pieces and the names that you have on that team, um,

975
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's it's gonna be tough. It's gonna

976
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: be a media your friends, you know what I'm saying.

977
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: Then when you play the name game, when they blamed

978
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: Russ or this person from missing shots and that person

979
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: for mring shots, and then nobody really takes um I'm

980
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: not saying ownership or hold us up, but nobody's like

981
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: defending one another, you know what I'm saying. It's like

982
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: when you see it or when you see it on TV,

983
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: it's like they're going that Russ and then you know

984
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: that Ron talking about something I'm different and then you

985
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: barely see vogeo. Um, so it's like you're not really

986
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: getting the It's funny because the media can make a

987
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: thing like we can make it to the media like oh,

988
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: this is the brotherhood and all of that, but then

989
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: the media could come in and then in the town

990
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: in the twine between the brotherhood and everything, I said,

991
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: nobody would you won't take up you know what I'm saying.

992
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, that's my teammate and that's

993
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: my brother. Not calling you my brother, bro. I'm must

994
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: stick up for you, Bro. I fight for you in

995
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: the streets, and I'll fight for you on the court

996
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: like you ain't know. It ain't no iffens and buts

997
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: about it with me. You mean, I go, I'll go

998
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: at the coach and stand up for you whatever. Like

999
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: that's just that's just how I roved, you know what

1000
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I understand that's the politics as usually well.

1001
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: And you can't do everything is a certain kind of way.

1002
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: So you gotta you make you worry about yourself. I'm

1003
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: not a person who's just worried about myself in these situations.

1004
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm a Teammker's my man, like I ain't no, we

1005
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: were rocking like, so pick and choose just what you

1006
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: gotta do. You want to trade me over. You're gonna

1007
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: trade it over there. I ain't cool back at the

1008
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: end of the day, that school being my man. So

1009
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: this ain't got to do it. Your team and this team,

1010
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: and I ain't worried about that. You got them win

1011
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: the championship this year and if you don't, who do

1012
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: you have won the championship? Now I can say at

1013
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: the win of the chip this year, Um, I'll tell

1014
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: you one thing, it will be a hard out though

1015
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: seven games series they're making in that in that spot,

1016
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough out, you know. He said,

1017
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: you like watching John morad earlier? What other players are

1018
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: you like watching besides beside John morat Um, I like

1019
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: I like watching job. I like watching the league mon man.

1020
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: He's so gifted, bro, he wont He reminds me a

1021
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: lot like he could shoot the three absolutely and bounced. Bro,

1022
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: he got boosters. I even like. I just like it

1023
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: when Charlotte are the time. I told him all the time,

1024
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: like you really like you got a kid. Just don't

1025
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: even worry about the post. Just who um he's one

1026
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: of my fanst you off, not to cut you off.

1027
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: He reminded me of just a smaller version of you

1028
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: when I first seen him, Just like, Yo, this kid

1029
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: is nice. Yeah he got game, Bro, he got her name,

1030
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 1: um Degen Murray. Bro. I'm so happy for him. Man.

1031
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: That kids. I've been telling people about him for a

1032
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: minute and all star, all star man, and you know what,

1033
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: you know what I like about it. Though young, he

1034
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: develops his game, he continues to go to the gym

1035
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: that works on his game. You know what I'm saying.

1036
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: People were talking about how this shot for a minute.

1037
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: He was tended a little bit, but who wouldn't be

1038
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: playing for pop when you're a rookie. You know what

1039
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's going off and you're making mistakes whatever,

1040
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: but he still consistent with it. You've been working at

1041
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: his game. He always in the gym and ain't just nothing.

1042
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: Bro shout out to you know my man, I tea

1043
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: because he's a Seattle boy and that's a young boy.

1044
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: So U where he got he dope? Man? I love

1045
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: his energy to man, he's really good for um. Yeah,

1046
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: he's solid m v P he Man. I've been saying

1047
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: this for years. Man, somebody gonna get his man his problems. Bro.

1048
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: That boy in Dallas, Man, he is nice people doing

1049
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: it with nothing like I know what this respect. I

1050
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: hate to say it like that, but he don't be

1051
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: having like and he being dog fights gets done like

1052
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: slow bowl like he he's speeding up for nobody. It

1053
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: ain't super flashy. He's getting it done. You know what

1054
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I would like to see if if burn

1055
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: could win it, and so many other players to win

1056
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: it on on booty teams corners quote, so to say

1057
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: he got a heat, Bro, he carry his team consistently,

1058
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: if he more than anybody. If he don't play his

1059
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: team was work for sure. You go robbing league and

1060
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: so many other players been in and out teams are

1061
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: still able to get dubs or whatever heat home play.

1062
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: They've done quick hitters. Coming down to the end um

1063
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: three artists on rotation. When you hit the links, not normally,

1064
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: just when you're on that golf course, it might be

1065
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: a little different mindset. Bro, I listened to country music

1066
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: on the golf course. Really, I'm not sorry country music, bro.

1067
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: You know it's funny. I just started really getting into

1068
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: it heavy. Like I always had to respect the love

1069
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: for country music, just like I never really took the

1070
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: time to actually figure out artists and all that. So

1071
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: my little brother said me this playlist. Yeah, I'll tell

1072
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: you I've been bumping this jow like like religion, bro,

1073
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy like you hear it like yo switch,

1074
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: you don't get the hell out of I'll be They

1075
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: talked ship though, too, so I went. I went to

1076
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: high school with all white Jason. I would hear a

1077
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: lot of you know, they talk big ship if you

1078
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: listen to what they're really saying the country. But if

1079
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: you're talking to same ship, were talking just just just

1080
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: their version of it minus the killing talking big that

1081
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: should be give me my swing, bro. It's like what

1082
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,959
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'll be listening to rap music and shot

1083
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: out there on the golf course and I'll be speeding

1084
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: it up. I'll be going too fast. I'll be five

1085
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: and and all of that ship you wanted to have

1086
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: a little ship, I was a country music. I'll be

1087
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: chilling with lax. I ain't in the I ain't in

1088
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: the rush. I'm just what I'm saying, taking my time

1089
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: and join the elements of the game. Being outside and

1090
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: all that you really take. I'm taking to them or

1091
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: I receive it more um while I listen to you know,

1092
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: R and B and rap man just put me in

1093
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: that element to where I just so you used to

1094
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: want to party on the chill on the front. You're saying,

1095
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: in honor of Jamal Crawford retiring, who are your top

1096
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: three six men of all time? Don't be afraid to

1097
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: put yourself on that list. Uh, Lou will go, Um,

1098
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: jamalv go and I gotta go go to nobl M.

1099
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: Funniest thing that happened to you recently, the funniest thing

1100
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: that happened to me recently. Uh yeah, So look right,

1101
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: so I'm so I'm here right in Florida, and uh

1102
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: I played golf with this uh come to my boys

1103
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: down and Avantur so they give me this uh this

1104
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: titleless putter. It's a secle tea Scotti camera putter and

1105
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: uh one of the rare putters or whatever if you

1106
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: in the golf situation, you know. Um, so long story short,

1107
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what I'm going Book of Flight

1108
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: and then my girl, we're leaving. We're leaving out the

1109
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: next day. All of this ship, right said I was

1110
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: so hyped about I just said talking out A buffet

1111
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: flew from here to have a layover somewhere, had a

1112
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: top on another Johane to go to l A, get

1113
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: to l A, drive to San Diego. I'm looking to

1114
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: see what time, what time they closed or whatever? They

1115
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: closed the whole They're closed on Sundays and Mondays and

1116
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: flew out. I was supposed to fly right back. I

1117
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: didn't even check what time it was, Bro, I ain't

1118
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: checked what day it was. I ain't checked with days

1119
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: they closed and not and flew all over that John

1120
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: they closed. Attention Bro, that world brow you mentioned you

1121
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: got a chance to play with m J Tigers. The

1122
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: one person you'd want to play with outside of those two.

1123
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: If you can have a one on one golf tournament

1124
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: with any one in the history, what would it be?

1125
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: They gotta be a PGA prom know anybody, anybody King

1126
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: j oh that's good, he once shout out, swing man. Bro.

1127
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: Stuck on the island. You stuck on the island, switched

1128
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: with three shows and movies. You you got in Rotation,

1129
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: yellow Stone, Sons of Anarchy and uh Fresh Prince Sons

1130
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: of Anarka to come back. I Bro getting ready. Oh yeah,

1131
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm ready for that. I'm definitely ready for that. Movies,

1132
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: He got games, uh back events and transforms best Kobe

1133
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: story on or off the court. Man, So off the court,

1134
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in Philips in New York playing with

1135
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 1: the New Lakers. Is you know our stay in town

1136
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: or whatever. But there's playing I think it's playing Brooklyn.

1137
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: Then it's playing us and m I'm out with my trainer.

1138
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: He done at the time, and we're chilling in the

1139
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: back and somebody doing. One of the waiters or does

1140
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: the manager come up? He's like, yo, man, uh Kobe here,

1141
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: I go, oh word like that, that's what's up. Like

1142
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen code out whatever. I always seen

1143
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: at the arena, never seen him out at the gym,

1144
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: never seen him out. And uh he was like yeah

1145
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: he see. Uh he said he wants to talk to you.

1146
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: So I always got like summer. I was like soup said,

1147
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: They're like all right, fool. I was check him on

1148
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: our way out. So then the trainer at the time

1149
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: he peeking out, He's going crazy like dude, you want

1150
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: to go over there now? Like you want to go

1151
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: over there now? Like you're gonna go over there now.

1152
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that this been ship and uh so

1153
01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: he fished food whatever walking out and uh, he stood up,

1154
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: give me, give me a hug, started chopping up for

1155
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: a second, like just standing and talking and checking out

1156
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: the families whatever whatever. He's like, you're about to leave,

1157
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, it make comes to down

1158
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: a real quick come so down was like alright cool,

1159
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: and he really liked, you know, screwed me on how

1160
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: intelligent he was, like just about so many different things,

1161
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: like like the way they would come back. He ordered

1162
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: something in uh in Italian and like going back. I

1163
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: was like, like he was like holding court, he gotta Nike,

1164
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: he got I think it was a robbed rob right there.

1165
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: Nico was right there and like he like, you know,

1166
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: talking ship to them like you know, and you especially

1167
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: like somebody at Nike like like Nico was and talking

1168
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: about the ideas that he expressed, the ship that that

1169
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: Nike took and didn't give him the credit for and

1170
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: all of that ship like he like grilling him or whatever.

1171
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: Excute and Uh, to see him in that element, I

1172
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: was like, you know, here a real one, Like I

1173
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: wasn't expect like you know, I was expecting the code

1174
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: to be like more you know, if you've seen him

1175
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: out here in the cut, just him or maybe one

1176
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: other person's training or something, and that's it I'm saying.

1177
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, like he's speaking, he's talking that ship.

1178
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, he gave me his number, told me

1179
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: you hit him up. We got it, you know, I

1180
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: mean you want to wrap whatever whatever can work out.

1181
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool. I thought it was bullshit

1182
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: on the workout ship, right, So I ain't never hit

1183
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: him up on the workout shot. I just talked about

1184
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: moves and situations and games because I knew he was watching.

1185
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: And uh, I really got a totally different perspective of code,

1186
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because you were all again

1187
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: different perceptions what you hear, and so many other people

1188
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: say you really get one or one or catch him

1189
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: in a different environment and light, and like you get

1190
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: you receive it a different, totally different space. So had

1191
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: that moment where him was like, it's special. So I

1192
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: always remember he was definitely one of us. That's funny,

1193
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: Like he said, you never know how you think he

1194
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: would be until you're around him. Be like, oh, let's

1195
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: dude as regularly smart as motherfucker. But big ship to anybody.

1196
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: Everybody Coal is a fan. Man, rest in peace to

1197
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: the homie Jack finishing up. You know what quick question

1198
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: is last? We hit you with it the first time

1199
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: you came on the show. If you didn't have anyone

1200
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 1: on All the Smoke, who would it be? I would

1201
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: to see Tiger on here? Man? Yes, yes, yes, you know.

1202
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: But Jr. Man, we appreciate you. Continue to be great. Love,

1203
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna be checking in. Yeah, the family again. Man,

1204
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: definitely welcome to the family. Good luck with school. Second semester,

1205
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: got golf season coming up. Me and Jack don't come

1206
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: out there with you. Uh Yeah. Excited to have you

1207
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: as a part of the family. Man, So continue to

1208
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: uh Man, be a great student, golfer, role model, father,

1209
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: and man. We're gonna catch up with you. Bro. You

1210
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: already know, Man, I'm only our forty Man's wait, let

1211
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,959
Speaker 1: me know. You know I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna

1212
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: pull up. That's a wrap special edition of All the

1213
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: Smoke with our brother and now correspondent for Showtime Basketball, Jr.

1214
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: Smith Man. You can catch this on Showtime Basketball YouTube

1215
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: and the I Heart platform Black Effects. We'll see y'all

1216
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: next week. Page. This is All a Smoke, a production

1217
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,040
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01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:37,720
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