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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy Baseball Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Joe Rico, and today we're bringing you

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Speaker 2: part three in our ADP Battle series, and this time

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Speaker 2: we moved to the outfield. We're gonna be breaking down

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Speaker 2: ten different debates that you guys are gonna have to

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Speaker 2: make when entering into your drafts over.

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Speaker 1: The next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: And we have a couple of fantastic guests on the

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Speaker 2: show today. They're both known for Fantasy Baseball and Fantasy

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Speaker 2: football to some extep, but they're also both known as

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Speaker 2: Roto Rodo Gut versus the Rodo Surgeon, and that's Vlad

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Speaker 2: Seddler and keV Massa rage On. I don't think I

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Speaker 2: butchered the name, keV. I've practiced it a couple times

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Speaker 2: and I think I hit it pretty well.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 1: Massa rage On is that it.

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Speaker 3: It's very funny that I get that same comment every time.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I think, I don't think I butchered that

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Speaker 3: name every time somebody says it, And honestly, that was

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Speaker 3: one of the best I've heard. So Joe, thank you

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Speaker 3: for having me on. Vlad shout out to get in

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Speaker 3: chat with you again. I'm excited for this and yeah,

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Speaker 3: great pronunciation.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to pick you get against each other a

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Speaker 2: couple of la guys here. We're going to be talking

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Speaker 2: about some outfielders. Lad, my friend, it's great to talk

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Speaker 4: How you've been I've been good. It's such an amazing

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Speaker 4: time of year. We are getting close to the season

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Speaker 4: here as we record, we're about a week out from

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Speaker 4: Live Draft and the series in Japan, and apparently Matt

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Speaker 4: Shaw's going and so a couple of weeks away from

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Speaker 4: the season. I am thrilled. So always a pleasure to

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Speaker 4: talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course this is gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be breaking things down here, but first

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Speaker 2: I want to let the guys have a chance to

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Speaker 2: just let you know where their work can be found.

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Speaker 2: keV has recently joined up the Fantasy Pros team. keV,

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Speaker 2: I know you got that going on, and what else

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Speaker 2: is in your world at this moment?

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, Fantasy Pros writing about an article a week

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Speaker 3: over there, wrote up my most recent piece about sleepers

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Speaker 3: for home runs. But been doing just you know, the

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Speaker 3: usual busts, just general guys I like, I don't like. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: throughout the season, I'll have some weekly pieces and whatnot,

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Speaker 3: so follow me over at Fantasy pros ras ball as

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Speaker 3: well my Friday Ambulance Chasers peaks, which you know surgeons

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Speaker 3: in the name, but I'm not an actual doctor as

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Speaker 3: we know, but i will be writing up injury reports

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Speaker 3: as always, find me on Twitter slash x at roto

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Speaker 1: Make sure you follow keV.

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Speaker 2: He's a He's a fun follow for sure, and they're

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Speaker 2: both fun follows here. Vlad doesn't get into the weeds

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Speaker 2: as much as keV does, but both of them should

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Speaker 2: definitely followed keV at roto Surgeon and flat at roto

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Speaker 2: You guys haven't heard this yet most of you, but

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Speaker 2: So we are going to jump into it, and we

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Speaker 2: are gonna be breaking down ten different ADP battles in

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Speaker 2: we're going to get it started off with Corbyn, Carroll

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Speaker 2: and want Soto. They're both and I'm using the Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Pros Consensus ADP, but I did try to take battles

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Speaker 2: So we're going to start off with Corbyn Carroll and

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Speaker 2: We've both been kind of interested in Corbyn Carroll this year,

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Speaker 2: but he's also been dealing with some back troubles recently.

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Speaker 4: be quite honestly the number one fantasy player overall. This

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that second half was fantastic. I'm kind of operating

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Speaker 2: But for a young guy like Carol at his age

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Speaker 3: I don't think shoulders just heal on their own. This

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Speaker 3: I don't know how that magically happened, but he cut

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Speaker 3: like twenty four bases. I believe in that stretch twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, he was still that elite player. But you're

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Speaker 3: drafting these guys in the first round for one hundred

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Speaker 3: hundred fifty, you're pretty happy. I don't know if Carol

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Speaker 3: interest in Carol until like the Jared durand Jackson Merrill range.

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Speaker 3: I'd rather take the other elite players who are healthy

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Speaker 1: Well had any response to that.

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Speaker 4: It's a really strong argument. That's Kevin and I. We've

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Speaker 4: known each other for many years. We're both from southern California,

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Speaker 4: and I really respect is his opinion because it is good,

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Speaker 4: especially when somebody is so dialed in, you know, on

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Speaker 4: just human nature to sort of get sucked into. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I have so many shares of so and so or

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Speaker 4: I'm invested, and so it's so important to separate from

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Speaker 4: that look at these things objectively, and that is a

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Speaker 4: good point. The shoulder is something that might be of

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, I will still continue to draft him.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's one of those things if you're

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Speaker 4: you really need to kind of spend that extra time,

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Speaker 4: you know, read up about, you know, how his shoulder's doing,

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Speaker 4: check out how he's been doing, the last few days,

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Speaker 4: and then make the you know, the smart opinion based

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Speaker 3: Definitely, I mean, I just look at Duran. Sorry, I

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Speaker 3: look at Duran, I look at Carol. It's pretty much

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Speaker 3: a carbon copy, and Darren Durand has the higher average.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know why I would take Carol in

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Speaker 3: the first when I could get Duran in the second,

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Speaker 3: and I could get a Sodo as well to compliment him.

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 3: Obviously you could take Duran and Carol. There's that option too,

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Speaker 3: But I'm just speaking in like, look at the numbers here,

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Speaker 3: twenty one home runs for Duran, twenty two for Carrol,

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Speaker 3: two thirty one average for Carol to eighty five for Duran,

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Speaker 3: and then thirty four steals versus thirty five it's.

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Speaker 4: And so with Duran that's a whole different argument because

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Speaker 4: I personally I don't I'm not a fan of him

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Speaker 4: of the big season, I think he kind of he's

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Speaker 4: I have no issue with Jackson Churio. Sometimes you have

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Speaker 1: I like them both.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the Cheerio is a little bit safer

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Speaker 2: Glad you mentioned a couple of these guys that we're

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Speaker 2: the show Why at Langford and Michael Harris Now the

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Speaker 1: I saw him go in the.

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Speaker 2: Second round of a main event the other day, And

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Speaker 4: It's a good question. It's a good thing that he

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Speaker 2: than I'm expecting. Kala Nick is not going to last

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Speaker 2: in that lineup. He'll be gone sooner than later once

435
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 2: a Couny is back. It's an interesting it's an interesting discussion,

436
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 2: but I think both of them are fantastic. If anything,

437
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 2: maybe Harris might be more appealing because his price isn't

438
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Speaker 2: going to get pushed up as much as Langford is.

439
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 2: If Langford's going in the second round, that's a little

440
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Speaker 2: bit too rich for my blood. Would you guys be

441
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 2: willing to take him anywhere close to the second round

442
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 2: or is he more of a third fourth round er

443
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Speaker 2: for you.

444
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Speaker 3: Initially, like before the injury, just heading into this season,

445
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Speaker 3: I was into the Langford, you know, super rocket to

446
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Speaker 3: a first not first overall, but like a first round

447
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 3: pick for twenty twenty six. But yeah, I've kind of

448
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: fallen back with that in the adules injury and knowing

449
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 3: seegers always in and out of the lineup, I just

450
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: trust the Braves a little more. And I think, I mean,

451
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 3: Harris was the second round pick last years or excuse yes,

452
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 3: I think two years ago. Yeah, and it's just he's

453
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 3: been there, he's safe. He could be a first round

454
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Speaker 3: pick in twenty twenty six to two. So I'm fine

455
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Speaker 3: with Harrison Langford. You can't go wrong with either, honestly,

456
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 3: I just not second round.

457
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 4: And I think a big part of it is when

458
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Speaker 4: a player starts really climbing up the board, their margined

459
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 4: for error greatly increases. So a third, fourth round. It

460
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Speaker 4: depends on what type of format league you're playing in,

461
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 4: and many listeners are playing in ten and twelve teamers,

462
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,479
Speaker 4: so you might get a Langford falling to you in

463
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Speaker 4: the fourth or fifth round, depending on who's a fan

464
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Speaker 4: or whatnot. But in these main events and you mentioned

465
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Speaker 4: to Joe that's you know, these are these all these

466
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 4: great players, they're also just people with money sometimes. I mean,

467
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Speaker 4: there are a lot of great players, but every draft

468
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 4: has a couple of guys. This is no knock on

469
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Speaker 4: you know anything. It's just someone has money, they know,

470
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Speaker 4: they're from Texas. They love why at Langford they're going

471
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Speaker 4: to grab him in the second round. They're going to

472
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Speaker 4: do what they want to do, and so that does

473
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Speaker 4: influence the price there. But there's that it limits everything

474
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Speaker 4: has to go perfectly, everything that we expect to happen

475
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Speaker 4: with no il stince, no slumps and things. That's the

476
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Speaker 4: way that Langford gets the second round. So it does

477
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Speaker 4: start to get a little uncomfortable. And on the flip side,

478
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Speaker 4: there are things that you're passing up right now. When

479
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Speaker 4: you're taking a Langford in the second all these great

480
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 4: guys in the second round, you're your dance turios and whatnot.

481
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Speaker 4: Those get pushed down to you and they become great deals.

482
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's really well said.

483
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Speaker 2: I want to move on to We've got a couple

484
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Speaker 2: of la guys here, so I want to talk about

485
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 2: at least one Dodger, and that's the Oscar Hernandez who

486
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to pit up against James Wood. And it

487
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: also comes down to a bit of how do you

488
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Speaker 2: want a draft. You want to take the high upside

489
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Speaker 2: guy who is moving up draft boards. I've seen him

490
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Speaker 2: in the third or sometimes at the end, versus the

491
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: guy who has done this a ton. He's in a

492
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Speaker 2: great lineup in Los Angeles. He's been very steady. I

493
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: mean the couple of years in Seattle were a little

494
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 2: bit shaky, which can be expected with the ballpark and everything.

495
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Speaker 2: But ta Oscar has been a fantasy juggernaut for six

496
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: seven years now. And James Wood, you know, concerning the

497
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 2: ground ball problems does worry me a little bit. Vlad,

498
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Speaker 2: Do you have a strong lean between these two of them?

499
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Speaker 4: It's you said it perfectly. It depends on how you're building.

500
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 4: I'm big on being careful not to compound upside and risk.

501
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: So if you're just drafting in a home league and

502
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 4: you say, already drafted Langford ahead of ADP and then

503
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: you grab a James Wood, then you start throwing in

504
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 4: some de Gram and Stride or and Sasaki, you're essentially

505
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 4: compounding risk and you're asking for trouble. And so if

506
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Speaker 4: you're playing in say the NFBC, in the online championship,

507
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 4: the twelfth teamer where there are a few thousand contestants,

508
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: if you want to win one hundred and fifty grand,

509
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 4: you do need some of that upside and luck to

510
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 4: manifest itself. So it's a matter of like how you're building.

511
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: Ti Oscar is nice and solid for where he's going.

512
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 4: This is middle in twelve teamers. This is like a

513
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 4: fifth rounder, fifth, sixth round around there. And how better

514
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: does it get with his stackcast metrics healthy for the

515
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 4: most part, hitting fourth, hitting clean up behind the big

516
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 4: three in Bett's Otani Freeman, It's a phenomenal spot to be.

517
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: James Wood. On the other hand, that is a lot

518
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 4: of really good obside. He's a big boy six seven

519
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 4: to thirty forty, and that one issue with him is

520
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 4: a little bit of a highest strikeout rate in the

521
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 4: miners the last couple of years around thirty two percent.

522
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 4: And the other thing is people a little worried about

523
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: his ground ball rate when he was in the majors

524
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 4: last year. That shouldn't be too much of an issue.

525
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 4: Think back to people complaining before of Vladi Guerrero's twenty

526
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: twenty one season about his ground ball rate and what

527
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 4: happened there. Same thing with Christian Yelich prior to his

528
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 4: arrival in Milwaukee concerned about the ground ball rate and

529
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 4: then was the second best player in baseball that year.

530
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: So a lot of stuff I'm talking about here, but

531
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 4: what it comes down to is being careful not to

532
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 4: compound risk. Ti Oscar is nice and solid. James Wood

533
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: is chasing the shiny new toy toy.

534
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Speaker 1: I do you agree.

535
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Speaker 3: I think they're very close. I don't disagree that this

536
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: is some far off, but I'm more into compounding risk

537
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 3: because it's like, I want to take a shot on

538
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 3: as many potential first round picks for twenty twenty six

539
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: as possible. And while t Oscar is nice, Tioscar falls

540
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: often people aren't as into Tioscar and he did steal

541
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: some bases too last year. So if I could potentially,

542
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: at like a four or five turn, get both Wood

543
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: and Tioscar, if I need outfield, I'm gonna take Wood

544
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 3: first because he is that shiny new toy, and then

545
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: you know, hopefully I could get ti Oscar back on

546
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: the other side of a turn. If I'm like the

547
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: third or fourth pick. So I prefer Wood. I prefer

548
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: the player who could be you know, so that next

549
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: man up that net. He's not Ellie. He's not gonna

550
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 3: steal fifty bases, But can he steal twenty five to

551
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: thirty or let's say twenty five. Yeah, he can definitely

552
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: steal twenty five. You could also hit thirty home runs,

553
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: maybe thirty five. Again, is his average gonna be pretty No,

554
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 3: but ti Oscars is solid around two sixty two seventy early.

555
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 3: I think that's where Wood maybe two fifty to two

556
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 3: sixty range. He's gonna walk a lot, so I don't

557
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: have any fear of him getting sent down. The Nationals

558
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: are in a weird spot where they're kind of the

559
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 3: red Zy of like a recent Cincinnati Reds, where the

560
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: Reds still aren't really good, but they're a team with

561
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 3: a bunch of young, top end prospects that they're just

562
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: gonna let him play and do their thing. And I

563
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 3: think with crews with Wood, Abrams obviously might have his

564
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: gambling issues, but that's neither here nor there. I think

565
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: they're just gonna let the kids play and you'll get

566
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: the ups and downs with Wood, and overall you might

567
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 3: you might really like what you come out with. So

568
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 3: I'm into Wood over Tioscar.

569
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Speaker 4: And by the way, you're building quite the team in

570
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Speaker 4: the all outfield league that you're in now with Soto

571
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 4: in the first and who was a Duran in the second,

572
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 4: and how you got ti Oscar and would.

573
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: It's all outfield so far that we're talking about of it.

574
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: I mean, for me, I think it might come down

575
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: to who I've taken in the first couple of rounds,

576
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: if I've taken some riskier players, if I've taken Churio already,

577
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: do I want to take Wood?

578
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: Maybe not.

579
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand that they both have the first

580
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: round upside, but taking two young guys who are still

581
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: relatively unproven might not be the way that some people

582
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: want to go. If you have taken some of that risk,

583
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: maybe tay Oscar is a little bit of a higher

584
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 2: floor that you can use to build out some of

585
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 2: that depth with. I think it's an interesting question, and

586
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: now that's why I put it on the sheet today.

587
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,239
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Speaker 2: let's move on to the next one here, moving down

604
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Speaker 2: the ADP board, and we got two guys that I

605
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: also really like this season, and say Is Suzuki and

606
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: Brian Reynolds. Suzuki I think has the upside to do

607
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: some really nice things this year. I've drafted him a bunch,

608
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: but I've also drafted a ton of Brian Reynolds. I

609
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: think he's a really safe floor that you can get,

610
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: especially in five out fielder leagues where they really start

611
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: to disappear. Reynolds every year just kind of seems to

612
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: be undervalued. No one really gives him his due, but

613
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: every year he's giving you twenty home runs, good stolen bases,

614
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: hitting for a good average.

615
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: keV, do you have a strong lean between these two options.

616
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: I think we've seen the best of Brian Reynolds, and

617
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: that's not really a knock on him, but it's like, fine,

618
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: it's like two sixty to two seven, hit three hundred

619
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: and twenty twenty one, but that seems to be gone

620
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: given that, you know, it's been three straight years of

621
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: two sixty to two seventy. Range x stats are solid

622
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: but not spectacular, whereas like with Saya, I mean he

623
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: has the Wrigley Field boosts. He hasn't hit highs as

624
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: high as Reynolds. They're about the same age, but I

625
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: look at him, you know, he stole sixteen bases. That's

626
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: more than you know Reynolds has in his career. High

627
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: and the Cubs are getting a lot better Matt Shaw

628
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: high end prospect coming into the lineup. Apparently he's ready

629
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: for Tokyo. They got Kyle Tucker, and I like O'Neil

630
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: Cruz a lot. I think he could have a full

631
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: on breakout season, But then you look at the rest

632
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: of the Pittsburgh lineup. It's awful and that park is

633
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: awful for hitters. So I don't think the upside for

634
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: Reynolds is crazy, whereas sayah, I mean, we had higher

635
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: hopes of him coming from Japan, so maybe he hits

636
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: that he hits a stride. He's a little bit younger

637
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: than Reynolds. I think he has a little bit more

638
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: pop too in that bat He's he's dealt with some injuries,

639
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: so yeah, give me Saya, give me say all day.

640
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm on the same frame of mind,

641
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 4: and I've got Suzuki ranked higher, you know, not significantly,

642
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 4: but definitely much more. With Brian Reynolds, he's just been

643
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 4: kind of known as one of those you know, it's

644
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: like Reynolds rap, right, It's just that safe, solid floor

645
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 4: of Yeah. You wish that he could get onto a

646
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 4: team like the Red Sox or the Yankees. It would

647
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 4: just be so much fun and you would see a

648
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: guy that could produce triple digits in the counting categories

649
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 4: runs an RBI, but again he's just mired there in

650
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh and just not very exciting. Like like keV said,

651
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: outside of O'Neil Cruz, listen, I'm I've got I like

652
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: Spencer Horwitz and I like Nick Gonzalez, but I like

653
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 4: them in my deep fifty round leagues and I like

654
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 4: them to like, you know, squeeze out minor profits things

655
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 4: like that. But from a team context standpoint, the ballpark

656
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: that keV mentioned, it's you kind of know what you're

657
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: going to get with Reynolds, and it's pretty projectible, whereas

658
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 4: Suzuki higher in terms of a barrel rate. AVERAGEGTA velocity

659
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: has been around ninety one ninety two, which is above average.

660
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: The guy's hit two eighty plus over the last couple

661
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: of years, still a few more bases than usual last year,

662
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 4: and he's just been kind of hit with injuries. He's

663
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: never played more than you know, never had six hundred

664
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: plate appearances, and if you extrapolate, we try not to

665
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 4: play the extrapolation game, but if you get a full

666
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 4: season out of him, especially in a team context, of

667
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 4: Kyle Tucker and just this incredibly better team and Hot

668
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 4: Summer and Wrigley. It can go really really well for

669
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: Saya Suzuki. So I think for me this is an

670
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: easy one.

671
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like them both, but I think Suzuki is

672
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: the one that I would take ahead. I think the

673
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: upside is higher for five category production. I think that

674
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: Reynolds is still somebody that you can kind of say

675
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: is a bit of a five category guy. But the

676
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: runs in urbis, like you guys have mentioned in that lineup,

677
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: they've failed miserably to put a competent offense there, especially

678
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: with Paul Skian's healthy and in his prime, or maybe

679
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: not even in his prime yet really, but healthy Paul Skans,

680
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: I guess does equate to like, this is the prime.

681
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: This is your chance to go out and do something.

682
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: If he does have to miss a couple of years.

683
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: For Tommy John, you never know what those years are

684
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: going to look like. The way he throws that might

685
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: be coming at some point down the road. You figure, well,

686
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: he's healthy, you would want to capitalize on that. But

687
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: Tommy fam leading off Andrew Mcutchen as your cleanup hitter,

688
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: that doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

689
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: Let's move on to I'm.

690
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 4: So sorry, Joe, go for it. It didn't inspire confidence

691
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen. The times they've changed.

692
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, MVP.

693
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: Andrew McCutcheon is not walking through that door anytime soon,

694
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: at least I don't think so.

695
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: At this point.

696
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: Anything Jason Stewart, sorry, is projected as their first basement.

697
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on with this offense. Hej Stewart.

698
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, interesting.

699
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: That's Isaiah Kiner f lefl is going to play every

700
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: day at short. So this is not a good offense.

701
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: Even if O'Neil Cruz is the best player in baseball.

702
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: I don't think this is a good offense.

703
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: I agreed, that's totally fair.

704
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: Let's move on to Christian Yelich and Riley Green. Both

705
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: generally around pick one hundred, maybe a little bit after,

706
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier, depending on your specific room. There

707
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: are some concerns with both, but I think with Yelich

708
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: at his age with the back, I had heard that

709
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: there was some concern about him being ready for opening day,

710
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: but it does look like he is going to be

711
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: ready for opening Day at this point. You just never

712
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: really know. At his age with the years and years

713
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: of trouble that he's had. Backs are not something that

714
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: necessarily just goes away, even when you've had a surgery.

715
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 2: My dad's had back problems for his entire life, and

716
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: he's had all kinds of stuff done and it still

717
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: just bothers him. He's not a professional athlete, but still,

718
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: I think backs in general are very tricky. And then

719
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: there's Riley Green, who I think could potentially be a

720
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: superstar down the road. I think that the barrel raids

721
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: and the met power metrics are really good. He doesn't

722
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: steal for you, but a really solid four category bat Blatt.

723
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: Let's start with you on this one.

724
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: So this is how someone might be built for because

725
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 4: you have your folks that are a little bit more

726
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 4: risk acceptant and others that are more risk averse. The

727
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 4: risk averse move is to go with Riley Green. And

728
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 4: even though it's a boring team context, with the Detroit

729
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 4: Tigers offense that really isn't all that great, right they

730
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: didn't get Bregman. The home park is just horrific for

731
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 4: power hitters. It just takes away a few home runs

732
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 4: from from the best power hitters every year, and then

733
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 4: it's you know, Parker Meadows has a nerve issue. You know,

734
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: Matt Verling's hurt to start the year, and he would

735
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 4: have like been their cleanup hitter. So it's not the

736
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: prettiest of offenses. But Riley Green kind of stands on

737
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 4: his own, Like if you look at his stack cast metrics,

738
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 4: this is a guy. Everything from his you know, his

739
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 4: slugging x slag average, exiblocity, bearer rate, everything's like in

740
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 4: the nineties, ninetieth percentile plus. So someone thirty home runs

741
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 4: have not been hit in you know, ya Detroit Tiger,

742
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: it only won since twenty sixteen, so in the last

743
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 4: ten seasons, nine seasons, only Spencer Torgelsen did it. That

744
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 4: was in twenty three. Since then, you got.

745
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: That's hilarious, that is amazing.

746
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, since then you got to go back to Miggy,

747
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 4: Mickey Cabrera and Justin Upton who hit thirty eight and

748
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 4: thirty one respectively. So it's a lot kind of going

749
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 4: against Riley Green for the upside, but man as he solid,

750
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 4: so I like him, Yelich. Of course, like you said,

751
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 4: the back issues, it's a chronic back issue. It's a

752
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: real problem. You get good help out of him, you're

753
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 4: going to get a great profit, but it's the help

754
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 4: that is the concern.

755
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, no, this is a no brainer, Riley Green.

756
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: For me, twenty four home runs last year coming off

757
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: with Tommy John and obviously Tommy John's major surgery. But

758
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 3: for hitters, it seems like they bounce back pretty well.

759
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: And now he's another year removed from that, he is

760
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: much Christian Yelli's thirty three. I didn't realize how old

761
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: he was until recently. Honestly, I could have sworn he

762
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: was twenty nine thirty. He's been in the league forever obviously,

763
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 3: but yeah, no, a thirty three year old coming off

764
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: back surgery who was allegedly not going to be ready

765
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 3: for opening Day. Yes, I like the Brewers lineup. I

766
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: discussed that with Churio, but it's like, I'm fine betting

767
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: on Churio, but I don't want to bet on a

768
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: Christian Yelich. And hey, if Yelich is healthy, that's great

769
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 3: for a Churio, that's great for a Hoskins or Joey Ortiz,

770
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: whomever you draft. With the Brewers, Will William contrets, but

771
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: that's just like a cherry on top. I don't want

772
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: to have to bank on Yelich. Maybe in a points

773
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: slash best ball league where you don't really have to

774
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: worry about him in your lineup. Maybe they rest him

775
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: more this year. I don't know what's going to go

776
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: on with him, but yeah, with Riley Green, the average

777
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 3: is really good. He has a two sixty seven career

778
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: average that could be even higher. X stats back it

779
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: up again coming off to TJ, he's not going to

780
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: steal bases, but I mean, looking at power, Yelich hasn't

781
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: hit twenty home runs since twenty nineteen, so the average

782
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 3: is great. That's that's awesome, but that's about it. Yes,

783
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: he still steals some bases, but that back acts up

784
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: and he's cooked. I just don't want to deal with

785
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: it in a league with IL maybe Eileen Yellick or Yelich,

786
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: because I can I l him, bring him back and

787
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 3: all that good stuff. But in leagues with none, like

788
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: an NFBC league, I'm going Riley Green.

789
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: That's totally fair.

790
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: I was a little bit more on the fence, but

791
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: I think after hearing what you guys have to say,

792
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: I think that Yelich in an IL spot, like I

793
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: got my home league coming up, next weekend. It's a

794
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: ten team IL league. In that kind of format, I

795
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: think you're a lot more willing to take him as

796
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: higher replacement value. I'm not taking a zero on the bench,

797
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: but I think for a lot of people, I think

798
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: Riley Green is probably the safer choice. You know, the

799
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 2: Brewers lineup is good, but I think that the loss

800
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: of a Damis is kind of significant. Ken Ortiz and

801
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: Mitchell and a couple guys fill the void potentially, but

802
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 2: especially if Yelich isn't fully ready to go like that

803
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: lineup might not be as good as people are thinking.

804
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: I think that's a decisive Riley Green there. Before we

805
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 2: keep it going on, remind you guys about our Discord,

806
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,000
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807
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,319
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808
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809
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: and Joe Piezapia will be together every Wednesday at two

810
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: pm Eastern to tackle your fantasy questions. I'll also be

811
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,399
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812
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,600
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813
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: come get your questions answered and be on the show

814
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,040
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815
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: gonna wrap it up with some post one hundred ADP

816
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 2: guys here. And these two players, I feel like they're

817
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: kind of tied together this year for some reason. Maybe

818
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: it's just the rooms that I've been in, but Randy

819
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: or Rosarina and atleast Garcia always seem to be right

820
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: at the top of the ADP list.

821
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: Together. They both come with their wards.

822
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: A Rosarina and Garcia both had down years last season,

823
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 2: but they both do offer quite a bit of upside

824
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: if they are able to stay healthy. I think Garcia,

825
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, Kevy's already dealing with some problems, but

826
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: in the middle of that Rangers lineup, he could drive

827
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: in one hundred runs pretty easily, and it wouldn't surprise me.

828
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: With a Rose Arena, it's just the twenty twenty floor

829
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: that seems to be there, feels very stable, even in Seattle.

830
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: But you know, I was talking on sleeper in the

831
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: bus recently with Justin Mason and he was really down

832
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: on a Rosarina. It got me thinking a little bit

833
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: more so I'm not really sure what to think here.

834
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: I'm not sure whose turn it is. I probably bungled it.

835
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: But Glad, let's start with you on this one. Which

836
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: way you lean in?

837
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 4: I would prefer to not lean anyway if if I

838
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 4: had my drothers. To be honest, I there is something tempting.

839
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: This is me trying to separate bias, but there's really

840
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 4: something tempting about adoles Garcia and every time you want

841
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 4: to buy in, something happens to him unfortunately. And so

842
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 4: I think vibes are a serious thing and you kind

843
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 4: of need to, like, you know, read I don't know

844
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 4: if it's to read the tea leaves or feel the energy,

845
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: but you know, he goes out there, he says he's

846
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 4: fully healthy and he's gonna have fifty homers and sure,

847
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 4: he absolutely could if he's healthy. And then the next

848
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: day he gets into bleakue issue. So that is of concern.

849
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: Like if both guys are healthy, like give me a

850
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 4: dolees in that context, the power, the speed, everything, the

851
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: guy is good went healthy. He's not elite, but between

852
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 4: good and elite. Randi or Zarina, on the other hand,

853
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: is stuck in what is the best pitchers park in baseball?

854
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 4: And what that means is it's not ideal for hitters.

855
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 4: So we can excuse a Julio Rodriguez who will just

856
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 4: get there one way or another, but Randy or Asarina,

857
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: what truly is is the upside, and listen, I could

858
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: end up eating my words. You could. We've seen players

859
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: have hitters could have good seasons there before. But this

860
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: is a guy that hit two nineteen last season, and

861
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: it's not like his expected average was sixty or something.

862
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: It was exactly that two nineteen. The previous season it

863
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 4: was two fifty four. He's a twenty twenty guy, but

864
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 4: there's just not a lot of upside with him. And

865
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: my evaluations personally has him a couple of rounds below

866
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: where he's going, and so in standard drafts, I see

867
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 4: him going somewhere like one thirty to one fifty. There's

868
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: no way I could do that. It's more like a

869
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 4: one to seventy one eighty if I had to.

870
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: I'm with lad, I don't want either of these guys.

871
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: I haven't drafted either of these guys. I think maybe

872
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: a dolease before the od League I took once or twice,

873
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: but even so, Yeah, a rose Reina going to Seattle

874
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: five home runs in two hundred and thirty nine played appearances,

875
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: where he had fifteen in four hundred and nine with

876
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay that season, strikeout where it went up. Average

877
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: went up slightly from two eleven to two thirty one,

878
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: and that was driven by a higher babbit, which is

879
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: close to his career norm. But like X, stats wise,

880
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: heavily outperformed in twenty twenty one, heavily out performed in

881
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, and these aren't good things. He wasn't

882
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: hitting up to snuff. The contact he was making was

883
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: not relative to the production he was putting on the field,

884
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: where twenty twenty three, oddly enough, was like the first

885
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: year his production and expected production were like on par

886
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: So maybe he gets back to that, but history is

887
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: not on his side in that offense. I don't really

888
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: want anyone, like Lad said, except Julio. Yeah, I don't

889
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: want Dulls. I don't want Uh to deal with his injuries,

890
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: even though he's in a great lineup and he's a

891
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: great hitter, And I don't want to deal with the

892
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: Rose Raina just being bad and a potential drop by

893
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: like may or June, probably closer to the June. Nobody's

894
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: gonna drop him that soon. If they dropped him that high.

895
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, give me like Josh Low ten twelve picks later. Like,

896
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with bad older players. I

897
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: want to deal with a good young player who has

898
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: had his health issues. But I'd say his upsides even

899
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: higher than both of them, and he was the top

900
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: one hundred pick last year.

901
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree on Josh Low over both of them.

902
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: I've been in on him since first patch Arizona, Like

903
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: we've been talking about him for several months now as

904
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: somebody who could really benefit from that ballpark with the

905
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: power that he has, which isn't crazy. But I think

906
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: he had a ten percent barrel rate last year even

907
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: with the injuries, good speed, good lineup. Yeah, I think

908
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: the battle isn't with Josh Low, but I think we

909
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: can all agree that he's probably the preferred target there.

910
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: There's just a lot of risk with Adeleis and with

911
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: Randy rose Reina moving on to Nick Castellanos and Jerkson Profar. Now,

912
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: Jerkson Profar did take a bit of a tumble in

913
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 2: the outfield the other day, fell hard on his wrist.

914
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: From what I've seen, all the x rays came back negative,

915
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: and he doesn't appear to be at risk of an

916
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: opening day spot, but I guess it does lead to

917
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: some worries. keV, do you have any strong concern about

918
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: that risk healing.

919
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 3: I hate bone bruises. I just don't know how deep

920
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 3: it is. Apparently Will Smith is still dealing with still

921
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: dealing with one in his ankle or something. I don't

922
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: know what's going on there. He's been hitting fine recently,

923
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 3: but yeah, I just rather stray away from a guy

924
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: who throughout his career wasn't even that good and it

925
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: had a great season. He's had like what two great

926
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: seasons in between ten years or not even great? Good

927
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: give me the castianos, like, just you know what you're

928
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: getting underperformed a little bit last year. Offense is still

929
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: really good. Park's great, Yes, Profar with the Braves, that's

930
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: the best park and the best offense he's gonna ever

931
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: play with. But at the same time, it's it's just

932
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: it could just go south real quick. And we talk

933
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: about like Harris hitting alone in the lineup, it could

934
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: be pro if he doesn't start out hot, and then

935
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: that's just kind of gross, even though it's still going

936
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: to be a great lineup. So uh yeah, I'm I'm

937
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: on team Castianos.

938
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: Here I was going to say. The one counter I'll

939
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: say is when you say, keV that we know what

940
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 4: we're getting from Castianos. We know within a range of

941
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 4: dollar value if we're looking at a tell twelve or fifteen,

942
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: but we don't know how he's getting there because he

943
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: is one of the least projectable players. You could possibly

944
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 4: imagine everything from his actual rate stats, so home runs,

945
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 4: he goes from fourteen to thirty four to thirteen to

946
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 4: twenty nine to twenty three runs, an RBI, stolen bases,

947
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: it's kind of like all over the place from year

948
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 4: to year. So he's really tough to project from that standpoint.

949
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 4: And same thing with the average. I mean he's bounced

950
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 4: around from like you know, three oh nine and then

951
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: down to two sixty three in the full season, so

952
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: you never know what Casti you're going to get, and

953
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 4: he's getting a little older. And then also his actual

954
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: stack cast metri they're a little below par, but if

955
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: anything goes right in Philly, I think they're just in

956
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: an overall good spot. Philly just they always find a

957
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: way to produce a top five, top ten offense, even

958
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: with like Harper and Turner. These guys missing part of

959
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 4: the year, so Cassidy will get there one or the other.

960
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: I do have a slight lean for Jerks and Profar,

961
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 4: and I think it's because this is a different guy

962
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 4: that we saw last season. Again, this is a former

963
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: top prospect in baseball. Of course that was ten years

964
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 4: ago when it didn't really matter. But last year everything

965
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 4: from you know, raising his average exit velocity from the

966
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 4: eighty fives up to ninety one and a half, like

967
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 4: way above average power was up, was running a little bit,

968
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 4: stole a ten basis, scored ninety four runs for this

969
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 4: Padres team, very chippy and even hit to eighty. So

970
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 4: for me, I like the taking the chance on the

971
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: positive context like possibly leading off for the for the

972
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 4: Braves head of Riley and Olsen and all these studs

973
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 4: kind of want to chase a little bit of that.

974
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 4: These rounds.

975
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're funny enough, they're the same age. I didn't

976
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: realize that crazy.

977
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: That is bizarre.

978
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: I would not have thought that, but Profar, the games

979
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 2: did seem to be kind of legit. The eggs of velocities,

980
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 2: the barrel, the hard hit rates going up, the situation improving.

981
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: I worry a little bit about the risk. When you

982
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: start getting injured in spring training. You just never really

983
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: know where the season is going to go from there,

984
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: if it's going to end up hampering him. But I'm

985
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: willing to take a chance on the upside. It feels

986
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: weird to say upside for a guy in his early thirties,

987
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: but I think that Profar does have some good upside.

988
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: With Castillanos, I think the floor is probably higher, but

989
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: it's a reasonable debate. I think when you're getting to,

990
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: like the twelfth thirteenth round, you need your fourth outfielder.

991
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: They're both fairly similar, I think in terms of how

992
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: you could project them in terms of dollar value. Not

993
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: that the stat lines are going to be similar, but

994
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: I think that this one is relatively close.

995
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: Let's keep it.

996
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 2: Going with Tommy Edmund going back out to LA and

997
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: Elliott Ramos. I've been all over Tommy Edmond in drafts

998
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: this season. He's usually a multi eligible guy, but he's

999
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: I believe, just outfield on NFBC. I'm not sure you

1000
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 2: guys will know better than I am. He's probably gonna

1001
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: play second base enough to gain eligibility this season, I

1002
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: would think, But then Elliott Ramos just had the breakout

1003
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: year last year where he was one of the better

1004
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: hitters in baseball for a little while, cooled off to

1005
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 2: some extent, but still put together a really good season.

1006
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: Lad we'll start with you on this one.

1007
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: Do you think Edmund first off, gains that multi eligibility

1008
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: at some point and do you prefer him over Elliott

1009
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 2: Ramos as well?

1010
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 4: I do like Tommy Edmund have him ranked higher as

1011
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: well over at FTN. I like team context. That's what

1012
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 4: I'm about, Like ballpark, the extra intangibles when you're hitting

1013
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 4: in a lineup with the guys like Otani and Freeman

1014
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: and whatnot, and then you have speed. So a guy

1015
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 4: like Edmund who for three straight seasons even when he

1016
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: missed I think forty games in a season still is

1017
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: ten to twelve homers and not all that much. He

1018
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: could hit more at the Dodgers, but then it's the

1019
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 4: stolen bases. He averaged about thirty thirty one per season,

1020
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 4: and that's good. The Dodgers will let him run. Banning

1021
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 4: average won't be much help, and then he will gain

1022
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 4: second base. I think, because I think hay Sung Kim

1023
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 4: is a is a good defender the new signee that

1024
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 4: they that they picked up out of the KBO. But

1025
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 4: Hi Sung Kim probably not going to play against lefties.

1026
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 4: He will probably hit the bench unless his defense just

1027
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 4: as exceptional. So I see Edmund earning that second base

1028
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 4: sometime early in the in the season, maybe sometime by

1029
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 4: mid to end of April. Helio Ramos, he's I mean,

1030
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: he's just like a great guy stuck in a bad place,

1031
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 4: because again that's not a great hitters park. We don't

1032
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 4: know where he's going to hit in the lineup. We

1033
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: have a good idea of what the first few hitters

1034
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 4: are going to be there, and Ramos unfortunately doesn't appear

1035
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 4: to be part of those plans. And you know, there

1036
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: was yet a huge differential with his runs in RBI.

1037
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 4: It is just something to note if he is hitting

1038
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 4: there towards the bottom of the lineup, may not help

1039
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 4: you much with runs. He's He's stole on a couple

1040
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 4: bases in the spring, so that's something to keep an

1041
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 4: eye on. A guy that stole six out of seven

1042
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 4: opportunities last year. Perhaps he steals low double digits this year.

1043
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: So I like Ramos, but I prefer Edmund.

1044
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Team Edmund team Edmund just you said the middle

1045
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: and field in eligibility would be huge. Also, Ramos, he

1046
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: had a very heavy lefty split versus he didn't hit

1047
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: righties anywhere as well as here leftiest he's al righty,

1048
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: so you know that's kind of natural to see. But

1049
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 3: it's at the same time it's you know, if he

1050
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: struggles versus righties, is he going to be a short

1051
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 3: sided platoon guy. You know, the Giants don't have great depth,

1052
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 3: but they do have some lefties like Yastremski. Obviously Lamont

1053
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 3: Wayne's gonna play regularly, so you know he starts out

1054
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: not too hot. Maybe Luis Matos gets more run than

1055
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: Helio Ramos similar names. I have confused them in the past,

1056
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: and I do apologize, but it is not something I'm

1057
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 3: looking to do. Maybe again points league, Ramos probably has

1058
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: higher upside just given his power, but not the greatest

1059
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: lineup they did improve with, you know Lee healthy Adames

1060
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 3: added Chapman's very good obviously, but yeah, that back ends

1061
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 3: not great. I know what. Harr On Carnacion's your boy

1062
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 3: Vlad Nation. Maybe he could be a huge piece for them,

1063
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: but even so, awful Park going to face some tough

1064
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 3: pitching in the NL West. Not too interested. It's fine,

1065
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 3: It's just not my cup of tea.

1066
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 4: I was going to say, imagine, I like to put

1067
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 4: myself in like where we're going to be in the season. Right,

1068
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: we play fantasy every year like we're in draft mode,

1069
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 4: but we have to be remembering where we are in

1070
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: the season and think about how many times you're going

1071
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Speaker 4: to have, you know, a Giants in your lineup and

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Speaker 4: you look at Oh, they're facing the Dodgers and the

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Speaker 4: Pottery's this week. Oh, going up against Michael King and

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Speaker 4: Dylan Cee's and Snell. It's going to be insane. So

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Speaker 4: it's really tough. I think that's something to consider with

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Speaker 4: with Giants players. But yeah, I'm with you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dodgers don't have to face the Dodgers is

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Speaker 3: the lucky part. So that's why even with Edmund in

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Speaker 3: the NL West, you know the Giants' rotation, I mean,

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Speaker 3: the Rockies at least there'll be there. Yeah, so there's

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Speaker 3: some pluses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're all agreed Edmund is the better option,

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00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: more well rounded player without some of the concerns that

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Speaker 2: keV was mentioning there with the splits and the potential

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00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 2: for a platoon I think I think that's a decisive

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Speaker 2: Tommy Edmond, and we're going to wrap it up with

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Speaker 2: one more going outside of the top two hundred picks here.

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Speaker 2: If you guys are rounding out your teams and you

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Speaker 2: need your last outfielder Jake McCarthy and Jung Hu Lee,

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00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 2: we don't really know what Lee is going to be yet,

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00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: considering the small sample size he had last year before

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Speaker 2: getting hurt. Jake McCarthy seemed to really figure things out

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00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: down the stretch last year and was like on all

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Speaker 2: four mats start even in shallow leagues down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in what you have to say on this one, cav.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with you.

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Speaker 3: It really depends on if McCarthy's a platoon bat, he's

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Speaker 3: going to steal more than Lee. I don't think that's

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Speaker 3: going to shock anyone, but uh, last year, McCarthy actually

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Speaker 3: hit two eighty four or against lefties, whereas he was

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Speaker 3: two eighty six versus righties. His power did come against

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Speaker 3: the righties, but if he could be somewhat average against lefties,

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Speaker 3: we could see him play every day. With his defense

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00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: and whatnot, you would want Carol to say healthy, but

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Speaker 3: God forbid. You know Carol gets hurt again, and you

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00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 3: know it's very likely McCarthy would play every day. Jun

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00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: Kulee safer in the context of probably playing every day,

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00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: given that you know his bat to ball skills are

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00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: very good. Power is not going to be there too

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Speaker 3: much with either of them. So I'll just take the

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Speaker 3: guy who's gonna steal more and has the upside or

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00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: has the crazy upside if he plays every day in

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Speaker 3: McCarthy Lee. Maybe in a points league, I prefer like

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Speaker 3: ap points best ball, Yeah, I would go Lee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: The batting average should be higher with Lee probably, But

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00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: like you said, McCarthy hitting two eighty five kind of

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00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: came out of nowhere last year to some extent. I

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00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: wasn't expecting it, Like the speed you expect, not terrible power,

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Speaker 2: but I wasn't expecting the batting average where it did. Vlad,

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Speaker 2: Where do you come out on this one?

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm a huge Jung Houli fan. This season. I

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Speaker 4: think even whether he leads off or he hits third,

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Speaker 4: that will just really affect the distribution of runs versus RBI.

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Speaker 4: But a guy that just gonna hopefully play every day.

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00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 4: Who was elite in you know, overseas where he was

1127
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 4: Basically he owned a batting average in near three forty

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Speaker 4: in over four thousand plate appearances. And you know this

1129
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 4: obviously is a tougher league. MLB is tougher than the KBO,

1130
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 4: but some of that is transferable, and that's why if

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00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 4: you look at our FtM VDP productions, you'll see Lee

1132
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 4: in the two eighties, two nineties. You go on any

1133
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 4: other website, you're going to see a high batting average

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00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 4: expectation there. So I am a big fan. I think

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00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: you know him with Matt Chapman and William domis there.

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00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 4: Even with the park, I think it just really suits

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00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 4: him and I think he has a big season. And

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Speaker 4: I like Jake McCarthy to I just have Lee higher

1139
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 4: than him. McCarthy is a low barrel rate guys in

1140
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 4: the two to three percent range. But I think some

1141
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 4: of the splits, the platoon splits that you saw last year,

1142
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 4: like the improvements that he made, it's going to keep

1143
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 4: him in a lineup. So I do think he'll probably

1144
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 4: be in the Arizona lineup every day. And he has

1145
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 4: a massive stolen base upside. I mean I wouldn't be

1146
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: shocked if he stole thirty seven bases with a full

1147
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 4: playing time and not hurt the batting average. So I

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00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 4: do think both are very, very, very solid. I just

1149
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 4: have Lee ranked higher.

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00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing with wait, what is it with Lee?

1151
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: As he's coming off shoulder surgery. I believe so there's

1152
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: that risk that the power's a little sapped, and he

1153
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: didn't exactly have huge power in Korea. So it's like

1154
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 3: if he's just a high average kind of like poor

1155
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: man Stephen Kwan, it's solid. But I think the steals

1156
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 3: for McCarthy, it's harder to find that than it is,

1157
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 3: you know, with average for Lee, at least down the stretch,

1158
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 3: because like a large new bar might not be too

1159
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 3: different from a Lee.

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Speaker 1: Great points.

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Speaker 2: You guys have made fantast points throughout this whole show,

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Speaker 4: I first want to say, I think it's awesome keV

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Speaker 4: You always learning new things from other people, So I

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