WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Ice-T Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations people, Yes, indeed, Award Supreme.

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<v Speaker 3>We got hardware.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we did the damn thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We gotta tell him what award do we win?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he tells me what we won here.

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<v Speaker 4>Wet The award is I Heeart Music Podcast of the Year.

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<v Speaker 5>Shout out to Norri, You're great, but not as great.

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<v Speaker 6>Thought first, we ain't hardly the first beat between podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's love.

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<v Speaker 1>Love to everybody in the category. It's all love.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes without saying that our Guest Today is an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute legend, with a Grammy to boot, multiple Golden Platinum

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<v Speaker 2>albums to his credit. He actually pinned one of hip

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<v Speaker 2>hop's first memoirs, The Ice Opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>He pinned classics like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Six in the Morning, Colors, New Jack, Hustler Og,

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<v Speaker 2>Original Gangster. He's collaborated with everyone from Quincy Jones to

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<v Speaker 2>Tupac to Cube to Quell, Keith the Slayer, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I will basically say that our Guest Today is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the first stars of our culture to really parlay

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<v Speaker 2>and pivot from just hip hop to other venues of expression,

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<v Speaker 2>be it film, television. His metal band body count one

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<v Speaker 2>of the first hip hop legends to be a dominant

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<v Speaker 2>voice on social media, and he's using that same wisdom

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<v Speaker 2>as that he kicks on Twitter to offer his daily game.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely worth a following. I mean you should be following

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not. But basically, what can I say? We

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<v Speaker 2>have the legendary Ice Tea on Quest Love Supreme today, Sir, Wow, Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy. Thank you man, thank you think come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Dog, you know you legend done y'.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, it doesn't age you like drank for the family

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<v Speaker 2>youth did Ice team Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to always preface it with living legend, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, as you should. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times people don't get they flowers till it's a rap,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. So I'm still here. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's funny though, Quest I'm right now. I'm working on

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<v Speaker 3>a project that's a compilation of all my story rhymes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I like to tell stories, and the title

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<v Speaker 3>of it is the Legend of Iced Tea Crime Stories,

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<v Speaker 3>because legend is part fiction, you know. Legend is like

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<v Speaker 3>a tale, you know. So it was a night I

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<v Speaker 3>was in the club and I got in a fight

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<v Speaker 3>and I knocked the guy out, but the legend says

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<v Speaker 3>I knocked five guys out. You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you become legendary. You got to live up to

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<v Speaker 3>some of these legends that aren't really the truth. But

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of let people believe what they want to believe,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. So that's why we called

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<v Speaker 3>the record the Legend Device Team. But thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, you know, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not to. I'm certain that this ain't the

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<v Speaker 2>first time that you've heard, especially based on your name,

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<v Speaker 2>that cats might call you the Iceberg Slim of hip hop.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure a lot of that is also just due

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<v Speaker 2>to the fact that not on Ryan Page, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think on Power, I remember you close inside too with

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a storytell I think it's Soul on ice

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<v Speaker 2>the closing song on Power, of which back then I

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<v Speaker 2>was wondering, like if that was going to be your

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<v Speaker 2>not that I was seeing a pivot back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven or eighty eight, like did you ever have

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<v Speaker 2>any goals or aspirations to actually start writing fictional books

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<v Speaker 2>on that level?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, the true story is I'm named after Iceberg, Slim,

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<v Speaker 3>and I named myself after Iceberg Slim. When I was

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<v Speaker 3>in high school, you know, you I went to Crimshaw,

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<v Speaker 3>So you had the gang bangers and then you had

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<v Speaker 3>the players. The players were the cast, the ward tailor maids,

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<v Speaker 3>and they would shake, always shooting dice. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I ended up migrating from the gangsters to them, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's when you see me. And I had the perm

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<v Speaker 3>and the Fela and all that. But these cats would

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<v Speaker 3>hang out and they would carry around Iceberg Slim books

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<v Speaker 3>and Donald Going books. You feel me. So I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to know what that was. So I started reading Iceberg

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<v Speaker 3>Slim and I was fascinated with it. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>in eleventh grade. I was able to quote Iceberg Slim

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<v Speaker 3>to the girls, and they thought I was the fly

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<v Speaker 3>shit in the world because I'm quoting a forty year

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<v Speaker 3>old pimp to them. I mean, I could quote you

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<v Speaker 3>want to hear some Iceberg Slim? You want to hear? Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Please? Yes please.

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<v Speaker 3>I needed three way winch that'll play Jasper and extension,

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<v Speaker 3>take them around the horn. No Gene or John. This

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<v Speaker 3>whole couldn't con because that trick was never born. She

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<v Speaker 3>would be a good shot broad and the acid, fraud

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<v Speaker 3>and drags. She'll play like a vet, She'll stuff like

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<v Speaker 3>an ace, never lose a case, and leave many a

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<v Speaker 3>mark in debt. She'll be rated the best in the

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<v Speaker 3>East and the West. When a boosting hands goes down,

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<v Speaker 3>she'll still knots out of knees and fidos fleas. This

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<v Speaker 3>bitch is still out many a town. Now. I heard

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<v Speaker 3>hoes cry about the wind being high and the law

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<v Speaker 3>being on. They tail about snowing, sleep being ass whole deep,

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<v Speaker 3>and the tricks can go to hell and some greasy

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<v Speaker 3>spoon or juke saloon, you'll find them killing their time,

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<v Speaker 3>crying hard luck tears and sucking up beers. And the

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<v Speaker 3>pimps ain't getting the dime, turning half dollar tricks just

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<v Speaker 3>to get a fixed because their pussy is doing the pimping.

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<v Speaker 3>That is ruining the name of one hell of a

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<v Speaker 3>game because they pimps is doing the simping.

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<v Speaker 1>I see you on the next question of supreme leaders. Joke.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying that at the eleventh grade to girls, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not telling them it's iceberg slim. They like this,

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<v Speaker 3>who is this flyer?

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<v Speaker 4>And you don't even know what the fuck you're saying

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<v Speaker 4>half of it.

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<v Speaker 3>This sounds fly right. That thing you said is how

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<v Speaker 3>can I be down with this ass motherfucker? So so

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<v Speaker 3>ice Berg ice tea is short for Iceberg tea. Quest

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<v Speaker 3>you're right, and my boys call me Berg, my boys

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<v Speaker 3>call me Burg. So now the song you heard was

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<v Speaker 3>my homage to Hustlers Convention. Remember that album they had

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<v Speaker 3>out called yeah, like was it Lightning Rod? And yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was in that vein. But really, honestly, truthfully

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<v Speaker 3>quests all my music is Iceberg slim like, my music

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<v Speaker 3>is more like literature that it was not meant to

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<v Speaker 3>dance to. It's like, you know, straight up nigga or

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<v Speaker 3>some of y'all niggas's bitches too, or I'm the Pusher

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<v Speaker 3>high Rollers. It's definitions of certain things. So that was

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<v Speaker 3>my way of writing books, was writing music, And I

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<v Speaker 3>honestly used music that you couldn't dance to intentionally so

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<v Speaker 3>that you'd have to to make you listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, I see, you're right on the plank.

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<v Speaker 2>So for a lot of our listeners that don't know

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<v Speaker 2>of your history, I mean maybe it's maybe ten or

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years ago that I was shocked when I first

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<v Speaker 2>found out that you were actually born in Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know, where in Jersey did you live?

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<v Speaker 3>I was born in Newark, New Jersey. I lost my

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<v Speaker 3>mom when I was in the third grade, and I

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<v Speaker 3>moved to Summit, New Jersey, which a predominantly white suburb.

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<v Speaker 3>There was like one black street called Williams Street, where

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<v Speaker 3>mostly all the black people live. And then I lost

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<v Speaker 3>my father when I was in the seventh grade and

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<v Speaker 3>I was excuse me, shipped to Los Angeles to live

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<v Speaker 3>with his sister. So even though I was from the

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<v Speaker 3>East Coast, I hadn't really kicked up no dust. I

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<v Speaker 3>was a kid kid, you know. So by the time

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<v Speaker 3>I actually got active, I was in LA by that point.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I'm from I'm from the East Coast, born

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<v Speaker 3>out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Just for perspective, I'm just curious, where are your people's from, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>where was your mama's peoples from?

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<v Speaker 5>Where was your daddy's people from.

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<v Speaker 3>My mother was a Creole from New Orleans, and she

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<v Speaker 3>was so light skinned. Back in the fifties, they said

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<v Speaker 3>she could pass. You know, you know that term. I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>the pass is white. And my father was quest color.

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<v Speaker 3>So they were considered an interracial marriage to a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people. So that's where I was. I learned earlier

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<v Speaker 3>about racism that that was not something to tolerate, how

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<v Speaker 3>stupid it was. My mother was able to hear white

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<v Speaker 3>people talk about black people in front of her because

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<v Speaker 3>they thought, oh yeah. And one of my first moments

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<v Speaker 3>in racism was I had a white kid that thought

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<v Speaker 3>I was white and was talking about another black person

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<v Speaker 3>in front of me. But yeah, that's and my father,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was from Virginia, so you know, that's

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<v Speaker 3>why I'm a light skinned brother with hazel eyes. And

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<v Speaker 3>people know that the history of Creole is black and French.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess fish out of water situation wasn't for you

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<v Speaker 2>in LA at the time, Like how old are you

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<v Speaker 2>when you're in LA?

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<v Speaker 3>How old are you in his seventh grade.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't like it first because you know, when you

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<v Speaker 3>move up through a kid, he doesn't have any friends.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got shipped when my father died. Both of

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<v Speaker 3>them died in natural causes, you know, but my father

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<v Speaker 3>passed away. I was in school and they ship. They

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<v Speaker 3>took me home and then that summer they just sent

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<v Speaker 3>me to l A like for the summer. Then all

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<v Speaker 3>my clothes came and I was moved out there with

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<v Speaker 3>his sister. I didn't I didn't like it because I

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and that's how I'm living. I said I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't like la. I didn't have no friends to I've

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<v Speaker 3>got and then got bussed to a school blacks and whites.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess this shit was cool, you know, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was weird, man, because my aunt didn't really want me.

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<v Speaker 3>She had two kids that had already graduated out of

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<v Speaker 3>high school and they were ready to go on with

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<v Speaker 3>their life, and in comes this kid now in the

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<v Speaker 3>junior high and it was it was rough on me.

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<v Speaker 3>I left her house when I was seventeen years old,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've been on my own ever since. I've never

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<v Speaker 3>dealt I have no living relatives, no sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, cousins.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been ice. Tea's been on his own ever since. Dola.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, seriously, yeah, shit man.

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<v Speaker 4>Not even a mentor, like who was your first male

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<v Speaker 4>in your life then?

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<v Speaker 5>In that way?

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<v Speaker 3>Just friends, you know, friends. I have one friend that

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<v Speaker 3>I looked up to. He died early, and uh, nobody.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how kids get involved in gangs. Gangs are like

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<v Speaker 3>surrogate families, you know, masculinity. Like, honestly, when I got

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<v Speaker 3>around the gangs, I never was in a gang, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was affiliated with the gangs. Because see, you're not

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<v Speaker 3>in a gang, you're from a gang, you know, So

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be in a neighborhood. That neighborhood is

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<v Speaker 3>a gang. So if you're from the sixties, you're in

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<v Speaker 3>the Rolling sixties, you're from the eighties, you're in the

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<v Speaker 3>eight trays in La So I was living in a

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<v Speaker 3>nicer area in View Park. So when I went to Crenshaw,

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<v Speaker 3>you had Harlem crips, Hoover Cripts, all kinds of crypt gangs.

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<v Speaker 3>So I knew all the shot callers. But I you know, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>being around my homeboys, that was the first time I

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<v Speaker 3>ever heard somebody tell me they loved me, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>since my parents passed. You know, we love. And the

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<v Speaker 3>thing of it is is the gangs to love is

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<v Speaker 3>different because they mean it, you know when they say

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<v Speaker 3>if something happens to you, because it's on and they

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<v Speaker 3>meant it and they really and it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>what you wish your father was. Like, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like I always say, if somebody shot me, my last

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<v Speaker 3>words wouldn't be peace to beget those motherfuckers, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's embedded in me, you know. But no, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have family, just friends. And I've found out that

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<v Speaker 3>having sometimes that type of family is better because you

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<v Speaker 3>can choose it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, oftentimes when people are thrust it into situations in.

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<v Speaker 1>Which they lose.

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<v Speaker 2>I had like one or two conversations with James Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, his whole thing was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my mom and my dad gave me away, and he

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<v Speaker 2>said that that made him well, he was saying like,

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<v Speaker 2>basically that made him stubborn. But I think he was

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<v Speaker 2>basically trying to tell me it was really hard for

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<v Speaker 2>him to trust anybody, anybody, you know, like when your

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<v Speaker 2>parents leave you then even through death or through you know, circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, it's kind of hard to open your

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<v Speaker 2>heart to like, Okay, that's my friend and that's my

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<v Speaker 2>friend over there. But were you social like that or

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<v Speaker 2>were you like a hermit in the beginning or no.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of like became I guess what you would say, violent,

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not like I was beating on people, but

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<v Speaker 3>I put on a violent persona because now here you go,

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<v Speaker 3>you got a light skin kid in La Rap surrounded

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<v Speaker 3>with the gangs. I got hazel eyes. My fucking name

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<v Speaker 3>is Tracy. I don't have any relatives, right, so you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be predator or prey. Fortunately I'm six feet you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I always was always around two hundred pounds. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>even in high school, I was always healthy enough to fight.

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<v Speaker 3>So I ended up putting on this energy that you

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<v Speaker 3>guys know today is nice tea. I'm a nice I'm

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<v Speaker 3>an as Ice. I'm a nice guy. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>fifty Cents said it best. It ain't how my mama

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<v Speaker 3>raised me. It's how the hood made me. So I

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<v Speaker 3>just had to learn. Like one of my buddies said,

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<v Speaker 3>Ice is a nice dude, he just doesn't back up well.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't back up well. So once you once you

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<v Speaker 3>issue me like it's going to you know, if you

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<v Speaker 3>tell me da da da da da or else, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not backing up because where am I going to back

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<v Speaker 3>up to? Where can I go? You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So I became you know, I had a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>fades and a lot of fights, and but I had

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<v Speaker 3>nowhere to go. Request It was just, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>had no options and still don't was that when you

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<v Speaker 3>because at one point you joined the army or at

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<v Speaker 3>one point didn't you. I joined the army because it's

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen years old. I hadn't had a lot of sex

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<v Speaker 3>like I was. I wasn't getting no sex. Tenthly, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't believe it. No, tenth I didn't get sex till

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<v Speaker 3>twelfth grade.

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<v Speaker 4>The game wasn't right. It was the presentation was good,

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<v Speaker 4>but you ain't handle game.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that what it was?

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<v Speaker 7>Nah?

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<v Speaker 3>The girls was dating forty year old niggas like I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in high school. I'm talking to girls all day.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't when they go out and see them at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the night. They getting picked up in low

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<v Speaker 3>riders niggas. Yeah, kids, and you know that. You know

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<v Speaker 3>the drill. So I until I made it to senior,

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<v Speaker 3>I had no leverage. I had no leverage, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't. I had nothing to offer them. I had

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<v Speaker 3>enough to offer them to entertainment at school, but not

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<v Speaker 3>outside of school, not out of school. Guys know this drill.

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<v Speaker 3>You know the drill, the girl, the cheerleader flirt.

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<v Speaker 2>In high school all yeah, all the bad joints were

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<v Speaker 2>dating way older dudes.

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<v Speaker 5>Was looking at the wrong girls.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all in high school like that, Like that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. They wasn't looking at us now.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I finally made it to senior, I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a girl from the tenth grade. I had

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<v Speaker 3>a little leverage on her. But now I get out

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<v Speaker 3>of I left my aunt's house. I got two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty dollars social Security. I told her I bailed.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, you'll never make it. I took one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>dollars and got an apartment. I had another one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>dollars I spent on food. I had fifty dollars. That

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<v Speaker 3>was free money, right, And I found apartment and the

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<v Speaker 3>guy was like, you're too young. I said, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have to check sent to you. You take my

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<v Speaker 3>rent out and then you give me the difference. So

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<v Speaker 3>the landlord would give me one hundred and fifty dollars cash.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how he knew he was gonna get paid. And

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<v Speaker 3>uh what happens. I got my girl pregnant. Now I

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<v Speaker 3>got on my own pad. When I'm in the twelfth

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<v Speaker 3>grade and you talking about popular shit, I was killed.

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<v Speaker 3>But I didn't know. I didn't know they could get pregnant.

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<v Speaker 3>That easy. You know what I'm saying. I ain't busted

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<v Speaker 3>enough nuts to know the drill.

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<v Speaker 1>And there you have it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's our clip. And I'm and I'm and i'm uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm old. I was graduating in nineteen seventy six.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like condoms was around you. Damn Eve needed

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<v Speaker 3>to go to the pharmacy to get a condom, like

0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:47.520
<v Speaker 3>you thing like you had to get a prescription to

0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.840
<v Speaker 3>get a condom back then. You know. So I'm busting

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<v Speaker 3>nuts and she said she pops up pregnant, and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>being an orphan, I wanted the baby, right, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>got nobody. And so I went in the military based

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<v Speaker 3>on that, Like, I'm like, I gotta get some responsibility,

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<v Speaker 3>and I joined the army. I did four years at

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty fifth Infantry Division.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that like?

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<v Speaker 2>Like that level of discipline, especially when I would assume

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<v Speaker 2>that if you're saying that you have to have this

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<v Speaker 2>persona in la where.

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<v Speaker 3>Just back up off me, just back up off me

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<v Speaker 3>type shit.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know how that work?

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<v Speaker 5>That don't work well in the army.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes it does, Yes, it does. See, the being in

0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.760
<v Speaker 3>an army is kind of like joining a football team.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't want to be there, it ain't gonna work.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to be there, it's gonna work. You

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<v Speaker 3>gotta want to be there, you see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I made the decision to do it, so I was

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<v Speaker 3>ready to go. Like if you see Gi Jane, they're

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<v Speaker 3>like ring the bell, ring the bell. Quit quit the

0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.399
<v Speaker 3>armies like that, like if you can't hang go, But

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<v Speaker 3>now you're much the other alpha and you like, I

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<v Speaker 3>ain't no punk, I'm ana shuts. It's a place for

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<v Speaker 3>alpha males, That's what really is. It's for motherfuckers that

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<v Speaker 3>really want to get down. They want to go to war,

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<v Speaker 3>like these motherfuckers, so they they hunt cats like you.

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<v Speaker 3>But now they take the gang the street shit out

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<v Speaker 3>of you. I remember the first time I went in

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<v Speaker 3>the gas chamber. They put you in a gas chamber

0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.359
<v Speaker 3>and say what yeah, well, they put you in this

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<v Speaker 3>thing called the gas chamber and let.

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<v Speaker 5>You you've seen Private Benjamin, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>They put gas in there and they make you take

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<v Speaker 3>your mask off so you can have see. The trip

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<v Speaker 3>with military is. They want you to go through things

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<v Speaker 3>so that when it happens, it's not the first time

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<v Speaker 3>it happened. So you know you're gonna march twenty five miles,

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<v Speaker 3>so if you have to do it, I've done this before,

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<v Speaker 3>So they tell you to take it off. So what

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<v Speaker 3>I did is I squinted it and I just held

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<v Speaker 3>my breath. And I was able to hold my breath

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<v Speaker 3>a long time, and so when I came out, everybody

0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.600
<v Speaker 3>was coughing and shit like that. I was able to

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<v Speaker 3>pull the mask off and it didn't look like it

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<v Speaker 3>fuck with me. And the drill start was like, see

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<v Speaker 3>that's that same shit they throw itmorrow on the block.

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<v Speaker 3>He's used to that ship off the block. They were able.

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<v Speaker 3>They would tease the street cats like, you know, y'all,

0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.440
<v Speaker 3>motherfucker's not a break of M six. So you got.

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<v Speaker 5>Respect off the jump. Then in a way, well.

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<v Speaker 3>If you tough in there, they gonna let you be tough.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna let you. I remember one time I was

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<v Speaker 3>there and they and I had a sergeant arranger he

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<v Speaker 3>named and he was like, who thinks they can whoop

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<v Speaker 3>my ass? Right? And I hated this little motherfucker, and

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<v Speaker 3>I knew I could knock him out, so I put

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<v Speaker 3>my hand up in his other brother uh named go

0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Van and another white dude named McGary stuck their hands up,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought we was gonna get the fight. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he brought us up in front of the squad

0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.479
<v Speaker 3>a platoon and said, who think they could beat me

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<v Speaker 3>and my two three friends up? You got you guys

0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:00.720
<v Speaker 3>are the squad leaders. So he I want to see

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<v Speaker 3>who thought they had heart? Yeah, And that was the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest mistake in my life. Ever since then, I never

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to be in charge of shit. I'm your guy

0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:18.280
<v Speaker 3>to ride shotgun. I understand the position shotgun is much better.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, fuck to being the boss, the boss fucked that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's brave to say that shit because I ain't mad

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<v Speaker 4>at you.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's brave to say it.

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<v Speaker 4>But that you not that you don't want to be

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<v Speaker 4>the boss, and you ain't mad at not being the boss.

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<v Speaker 5>Like everybody, some people will feel like, well, what you mean?

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<v Speaker 5>I see like you and g.

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<v Speaker 4>You should be the boss at the top of everything

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<v Speaker 4>that you know producing.

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<v Speaker 5>But I see what you're saying, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Those people have never been the boss. See a lot

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.680
<v Speaker 3>of things you want because you have never gotten them.

0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Once you get them, you go got it pass. I'm

0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:52.280
<v Speaker 3>good on that.

0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.359
<v Speaker 4>There, so, so Jennifer Lewis taught us that lesson. She

0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:57.280
<v Speaker 4>said to us one day, she said, you know, somebody

0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.119
<v Speaker 4>offered me a show once, and then I realized. I

0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.040
<v Speaker 4>thought about how I look at Tracy Ellis Ross and

0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Anthony Anderson walk in, and I was.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, I don't want that. That's not my life. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's what that made me think of.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, if Quest is the boss and I'm as lieutenant,

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<v Speaker 3>I might need more dangerous than him, you feel me,

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.320
<v Speaker 3>and I might, and I might be I might have

0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:21.640
<v Speaker 3>much more power. When you went to school, you more

0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:23.679
<v Speaker 3>afraid of the principal or the vice.

0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Principal, right vice pressman. She was crazy.

0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:34.920
<v Speaker 3>I was terrified, even like Law and Order. Like when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on Law and Order, I have a job. I

0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.240
<v Speaker 3>show up, I do the job, I get paid. It's cool.

0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.040
<v Speaker 3>When I'm on tour, I gotta run all them niggas.

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<v Speaker 3>I got all this ship I gotta handle. I got

0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:48.040
<v Speaker 3>a budgets. Quest knows I'm on budgets and tour buses

0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.719
<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff. I would much rather not do

0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:52.680
<v Speaker 3>that and just go on tour and get the bag.

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:55.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to do it. So at some point

0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 3>you realize. But they say the head that wears the

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:02.800
<v Speaker 3>crown sleeps the heaviest, and it's not necessarily for everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>I am the boss in certain aspects of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's put that like that. When we did the Grammys,

0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:10.440
<v Speaker 3>they made Quest the boss.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>When I landed in New York, my tooth fell out

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:22.879
<v Speaker 2>and I went straight to surgery. That's the that's the

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<v Speaker 2>level of stress that I was under.

0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Stress.

0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Tooth stress, man talk for real, like new teeth for real.

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:35.280
<v Speaker 2>When I stress out, body parts just go awry.

0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 3>So now now let's let's since we're doing this now, Quest,

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:43.960
<v Speaker 3>even though you got all the praise, was it.

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Worth we ever talked about this fully? Yet we did too?

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still trying to decide. I'm still trying to decide

0:22:57.640 --> 0:22:58.959
<v Speaker 2>if that was a victory or not.

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll say I'll say this much.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a victory for me. Thank you? I was it?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 5>For real?

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<v Speaker 2>You like one of five acts that literally gave me

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 2>zero headaches? Nothing, No, no, no, It's gonna be worth it,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I can. I can say that something even

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<v Speaker 2>bigger is gonna happen in August and it's not just

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 2>like a special one. Tell yes, we we already said

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 2>that something's going to happen, but something on top of

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 2>that is happening. And now that that's been greenlit, I

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:41.680
<v Speaker 2>feel that is It's It was way worth losing the

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 2>tooth over and having to lay on an operating table

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:45.439
<v Speaker 2>for two hours.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, I mean, is worth it?

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<v Speaker 3>You did? You pulled that shit together like two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the crazy part.

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<v Speaker 2>Like now the thing was and you know, they kind

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:58.760
<v Speaker 2>of hit me in like after Thanksgiving, like this is

0:23:58.760 --> 0:23:59.639
<v Speaker 2>what we have planned.

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Are you interested? And I was like all right, cool.

0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 2>And then I let like three weeks go by Christmas

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and I guess after Christmas, I hit them

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.959
<v Speaker 2>up like okay, so what's the plan. And they were

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 2>looking at me like yeah, what's the plan. And I'm like, wait,

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I have to put this together. Like I'm just thinking,

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 2>like let me show up and drum and y'all tell

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.639
<v Speaker 2>me who I'm backing. And they were like we were

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.399
<v Speaker 2>kind of hoping you put it together, so you know,

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I gave my wishless and then they looked at me

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 2>back like okay, do you know these people?

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 1>And I was like wait, I got to call them too,

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 1>So that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Worse than question of supreme See that ain't right?

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.119
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean you know so pretty like with the

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 2>exception of maybe one of the acts that abandoned.

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Us and Glorilla.

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Maybe, yeah, Like I pretty much just called everyone from

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 2>my telephone and I see, yeah, I pretty much went.

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.160
<v Speaker 2>I scrolled down my entire phone book and I I'll

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 2>say that ninety five percent of everyone that you saw

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 2>was me hitting them up, like, yo, you mind doing this?

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean the only two people.

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 2>That couldn't do it was Cube and Cuba shooting something

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 2>and Stup was coaching, uh, one of the teams for

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:16.200
<v Speaker 2>the Pro Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>So so I see, was the long was it? You

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 4>were a loane like representation.

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Me and hello me and too short?

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 5>You're too short? Excuse me? So north and South.

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I decided it was wiser because people off the nest,

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 2>like why'd you as big Daddy came, why do you

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 2>ask case one? The thing was we thought it was

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:37.399
<v Speaker 2>first of all, we only had twelve minutes, and twelve

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 2>minutes goes by like that when it's it's this level

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 2>of ensemble. So we just wanted one representative of each right,

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 2>each territory.

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 4>So wait, okay, so a mere so I see you

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 4>get the call. A mere calls tell us from please,

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 4>what's you on your mind?

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 5>What happens?

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Why are you saying, hey, I can't do it?

0:25:59.480 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 4>Why not?

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 5>Why you can't do it?

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Because I'm in law and order and they shoot Mondays

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 3>and super Bowl and Grammys are always on Sundays, so

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I can never go. You know, I got a call

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.880
<v Speaker 3>time sometimes, you know, seven am on Monday. So he

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 3>calls and I'm kind of like, I don't know, you know,

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 3>it's the Grammys. I was, I didn't really know the

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 3>magnitude of it, you know. And then he just said,

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 3>he said, ice you don't want to miss this. This

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 3>is going to be legendary. This is gonna be epic.

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.199
<v Speaker 3>And then in my brain I thought about it and

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 3>I said, am I going to be the guy that's

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 3>sitting home watching this? I had a call to do that,

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 3>and people like you lying, motherfucker. Ain't nobody called you?

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 3>You know? So and then I said I knew he

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 3>had ice Cube on speed doll. I'm like, you know what,

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm not turning this down. This is the Grammys, and

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 3>it's it's it's it's second to the Super Bowl as

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 3>far as people see in live performance. And I said,

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 3>I called Law and Order and I told them and

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 3>I said, you know, I need to be off on Monday.

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 3>They said, you got the whole week off because you're

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 3>getting the Star next week, and we and we had

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 3>this episode. It's off for you. So it just was

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 3>a natural it was. And then then you know, I

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 3>got the track. And when I got there for the rehearsal,

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.160
<v Speaker 3>that's when it dawned on me, because it's like, you're

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 3>seeing everybody. You know, I'm seeing method man, I'm seeing

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 3>all my friends. It was it was of me and

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 3>ll cool Ja. Who know, people haven't seen a picture

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 3>of me and him ever.

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I gotta admit that was my one slight worry. I

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 2>was like, wait a minute, because the thing was, by

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 2>the time I got to you again, I went in

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 2>alphabetical order, right, and you're in the middle of the

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>alphabet already, you know, with the least the first fifteen

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 2>people I called, their first question was who else going

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 2>to be there? And the thing was, is like I

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 2>wanted to undersell it. One I'm very much known for.

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Even my hyperbolic statements are over exaggerated.

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 1>So I kind of wanted to.

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Downplay this a little bit because for a lot of

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>the younger generation, like i'll call Tyler the Creator up

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>and his first reactions like, man, it sounds corny, you

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Like, so in my experience and

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 2>depending on what generation I'm talking to, right, I figure

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>if I just undersell it, it'll be safe.

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>And what's funny is.

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 2>For the people that were just like nah, I'm good,

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 2>like that sounds whack. All them like the next week

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 2>were like, yo, man, I wish you would have told

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>me the magnitude that this thing.

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Was going to be. And I was like, well, I

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know, yeah, like how right right?

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I think just to some generational people, it's you know,

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 2>that's what like my whole thing is like, oh that

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 2>must be nice, Like you could just shrug your shoulders

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 2>like Motown twenty five.

0:28:58.560 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh I don't need that.

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Me was the gangster rappers, right, you know, because I

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 3>used to we don't get invited to shit, you know.

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 3>So when he said scarface, when he said pe, when

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 3>he said wu tang mefod, when he said too short,

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 3>I was like, yo, I remember when Prodigy was alive.

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, Prodigy is my favorite rapper for mob dB.

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I used, we don't do red carpets. They

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 3>don't let us in. But see, you got to understand

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 3>the people like myself, Snoop and Q, we take pride

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 3>in being outcasts. We take pride in not being allowed

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 3>into their shit. I remember when Snoop got the was

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 3>doing the Super Bowl. I'm like, you know, they hate

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 3>seeing you up there. He goes, I'm about to crip

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 3>harder than they ever seen, he said, because don't you

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>love it the fact? You know, So when you got

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 3>the Outlaws in there and you had he quest had

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 3>too short yelling bitch, you know, I'm like, yeah, you know.

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 3>And it was funny though, because at the sound check

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 3>I was doing, I was just singing all the words

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 3>with the ships and the fucks in it. So right

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 3>before the show I got a little text from whoever

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 3>the piece is Ice, this is gonna be live TV.

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Could you dial it back? I was like, Okay, I

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 3>was just testing the water. I didn't you know, but

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I well, you know what I figured it. You know

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 3>what I said. I said, I'm not gonna curse because

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna They're gonna bleep it and they're gonna bleep

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 3>it wrong, and it just won't it won't flow, you know.

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 3>So I just changed sucking for nigga, you know, I

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:34.959
<v Speaker 3>just but I was so concerned during that show of

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 3>the queue, see, because it was a tape going right now,

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Scarface is wrapping mind playing tricks on me, and then

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 3>under this thing comes in, dud. If you miss your queue,

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 3>it was gonna be a rap because the crack was

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna keep going. You were gonna be offbeat in front

0:30:55.640 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 3>of millions of people. I was wedding like this is

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 3>not no, I can't and ic concert. I could suck up.

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 3>I could be we'll bring that bracket, you know, I

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 3>could right, this is gonna this is a fucking train

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:13.479
<v Speaker 3>that's going. They put the things in my ear and

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 3>I never think. I don't think I've been that focused

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 3>in a long time.

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>So I had to have a live slate just you know,

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 2>because the thing was that the graphics that we were

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 2>performing like that had to be on automatic time. So

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 2>initially I wasn't going to do a live graphics. I

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>was just going to do it like a normal thing,

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>like okay, we're banned, we'll just you know, do it

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 2>like normal, But they were like, no, you gotta do

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 2>it to a slate so that way, when the lights

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff change, it'll be automatically and whatnot.

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 3>So how did you guys, did you know who was

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 3>going to pull out at the last minute?

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Yo?

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Yo, all right, So look when Bad Bunny was opening

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 2>the show, we were on in seventy five minutes, and

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 2>what wound up happening was when I got worried that

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>one of our acts definitely had left the building and

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 2>went back to his crib in Calabasas. Then it took

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>us thirty seven minutes. Because the thing is the show's

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 2>happening live, so it's not like the light guy can

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>look at me and say, okay, so what are we

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna do? Like he still has to do the show.

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>So basically, we're using musical performances and commercials to go

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>to nine different people. You got to tell the person

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 2>that's doing explosions, the person that's doing the lights, the

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 2>person that's doing the choreography. You now got explained to

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 2>the twenty dancers who were there for that one thirty

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 2>eight second segment that we don't need your services anymore.

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>So it took about thirty seven minutes for our first

0:32:56.080 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 2>dropout to happen. Now, when the second dropout happened, it

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 2>was twelve minutes left before showtime, and the second dropout

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 2>was our top person, our headliner, who wanted more explosions,

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 2>more dancers, more smoke, more like. Each each request was

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>like it was almost like a negotiating arms or whatever like.

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 2>And when they left at the twelve minute mark, when

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 2>our headliner had totally dropped out, I yo, man, I

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>just I thought it was a rap. I thought, man, great,

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>you always wanted to trend on Twitter and now you

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>destroyed hip hop and you broke it. So I had

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 2>no clue that Uzzivert got my message to just bum

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 2>rust the stage when he heard his song. I literally

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't knowase Like I said a text, Yo, you're gonna

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 2>hear your instrumental bum rust the stage when you hear

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>that shit, and my phone went dead, So I thought

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>he didn't get that message.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>So I'm fucked.

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't until I got off stage, because even

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 2>when all of y'all were on stage at the end,

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>it took the roots to explain to me in the

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 2>dressing room that little UZI vert came out.

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Came out. I didn't know that until I was changing

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>my clothes backstage.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I can't take credit like, oh, it

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 2>was a victory because even when off stage, I was like,

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I explained this point. You remember how when Prince stormed

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 2>off stage on Purple Rain because he thought nobody was filled, right,

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 2>that was me. I was like, oh, man, I destroyed

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 2>shit fuck And everyone's like, what are you talking about.

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>We're turning on Twitter right now.

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying, Hey, look, it's even more it's even

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 3>more important that you were able to pull it off

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 3>with all that. That's like you had people booby trapping you,

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 3>bailing out at the last minute of a live show man,

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:53.479
<v Speaker 3>and uh, you.

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 1>Know what I love though I don't think anybody missed him.

0:34:57.719 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 5>No, we did not, We did not.

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>It's still came off.

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 3>It came off.

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 4>And let me ask you all this because I talked

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 4>to Jazzy Jeff after after this, and he said, you know,

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 4>it was a moment where we all knew that we

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 4>were there. We've never been invited and we won't be

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 4>invited back.

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there won't be a fifty first exactly.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 4>And you said, but we were there for hip hop,

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 4>like did you feel that too icy?

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Like something mean, I've been going to the Grammys. I

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 3>want to Grammy for rap back in the day with

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Quincy Jones back on the block to block me, Mail

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 3>CuMo D and Kane, and we kind of felt Quincy

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 3>snuck us in the back door the Grammys. You know

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. It's like they about a wrap award,

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:38.800
<v Speaker 3>but it's really Quincy Jones. So we were like, Okay,

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 3>I got it. I broke it in a video when

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 3>I was on my iced T bullshit, and then I

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 3>said I missed it and I got another one replace it.

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 3>So I do have one, but one of my videos

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 3>like the.

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Girl, they replaced them because they're telling me, nope, yeah,

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 2>this iss crazy glued.

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 3>There's a charge. You can get one. It's like a

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 3>gold record. If they know that you're you got it,

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 3>you can get it in place. But I also went

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 3>to China and got some some maid to give out,

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 3>like with body Count one they only give out for

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 3>the number of people in the group, but there's so

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 3>many people involved. I got some replicas made to give

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 3>to my boys and my crew. So I got that.

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Then a couple of years ago, I was nominated body Count.

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 3>That was weird because we you know, they have another

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 3>they have another Grammy ceremony that comes on before the

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Grammar the pre so we performed in that. I got

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 3>nominated for Black Hoodie and we performed. After that, they

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 3>take us backstage and they got the cameras on it.

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, we won this, motherfucker, we won this.

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 3>Mother We're standing there and they go Masterdon and they won.

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 3>And the dude took the camera and wrapped that shit

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 3>up and dipped and left it. And then when we

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.320
<v Speaker 3>got to our dressing room it was locked. It was

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 3>like they left for dead. I was like, damn. So

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 3>then the next year when we got we won for

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Best Metal Performance. I was sitting right here because we

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 3>did it over the internet, right, so I might beat on.

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I probably will be the only person ever to get

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 3>a rap and a medal Grammy. That's what's up categories.

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 3>But you know this is awards. Somebody explained your award.

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.240
<v Speaker 3>This is awards, Like, this is how motherfuckers are about awards.

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Fuck the awards, Fuck the Grammy. Man. Fuck I'm nominated, right,

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 3>That's how people are. I mean, I don't give a

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 3>fuck about that bullshit. What So that's how people are

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 3>nobody really Yeah, but once you get nominated, you want

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 3>to win that ship. You're like, fuck this every time.

0:37:56.880 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So since you're in LA before the ding.

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Of of what we know is hip hop, Like, how

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>did that culture reach you out there?

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Like what it.

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Reached me in the army?

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 3>Because I'm in the army and it's cats from where

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 3>are you? I'm in Hawaii. I'm in twenty fifth Infantry.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 3>So the cats in my unit were from New York

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 3>and from all over Florida. You know, it's a mismatch

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.479
<v Speaker 3>of people from the United States. And I was hip

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 3>to first generation hip hop, which is what I call

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 3>unrecorded like tape hip hop before they made records. So

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:41.280
<v Speaker 3>they're playing me all this, you know, the beatbox records

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 3>and all that kind of stuff, and hip hop is

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 3>intoxicating you hear it. You're like, that shit is dope,

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I'm saying iceberg slim. I already think

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:52.479
<v Speaker 3>I know how to rhyme, you know what I'm saying,

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 3>But I'm like, I never heard it done over beat,

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 3>you know. And then they were trying to break dance

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.479
<v Speaker 3>and stuff at and I was just like, this shit

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 3>is dope as hell. And then I saw the New

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.879
<v Speaker 3>York City Breakers on a show called That's Incredible, and

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Yo, this is dope, you know. So

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 3>by the time I came back to LA, LA had

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 3>a techno sound. LA was Egyptian lover in them No

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 3>and Uncle Bobby, Jimmy and the critters. I used to

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 3>call it aerobic music, right, you know, and that's what

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 3>LA was banging off of. And I was just the

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 3>first person out there to try to rap like New

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 3>York rappers, like rapping over breakbeats. Evie and Henng from

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 3>New York City spend masters with my DJs, and we

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 3>used to take records before they had instrumental records and

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 3>actually catch the brakes, and I taught myself how to rap.

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I came home from the military with the intention to

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 3>be a DJ because Uncle Jams and then were making

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:57.399
<v Speaker 3>a lot of money throwing parties for between you know,

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 3>sixteen under twenty one Big Bi they doing an LA

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Sports Arena. The whole Uncle Jim's concept was they were

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 3>in LA, well anywhere you can't get in the club

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 3>till you're twenty one. But there's a whole gang of

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 3>kids that want to go out, you know. So they

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.920
<v Speaker 3>started throwing parties and they basically created the first like rage.

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 3>They with these long extended parties and uh, they were

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 3>able to do the La Sports Arena multiple times with

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 3>no acts, no acts, So you're talking about five thousand

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 3>kids dancing and in the entire stadium on the floor

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 3>of the stadium.

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, on the floor. Okay.

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 3>I'll never forget. Egypt had a drum machine at eight

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 3>oh eight, and I'll never ever forget it, you know,

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 3>because we hadn't seen drum machines. Right at a moment

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 3>where they're like they put the drum machine on and

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 3>they mixed it in and they go Uncle Jim's Army

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 3>was about to go live, and they played the drum

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 3>machine and he would take the records and hold the

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:57.439
<v Speaker 3>records in the air so you could see he wasn't

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:00.360
<v Speaker 3>playing any records, and the crowd kept dancing, and it

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 3>was a moment like yo, like yo, this is live

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 3>ship up here saying they were changing the beat. And

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 3>I was the first one they would let rap, you know,

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.280
<v Speaker 3>they would let me wrap in front of that crowd.

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 3>And stuff, and yeah, that was how I got I

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 3>ended up in this club called the Radio. The Radio was, well,

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 3>see that's why you got me here. I'm gonna give

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 3>you the drill. Thank you. The club was called the Radio.

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 3>It became the Radio Tron when they decided to make

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.280
<v Speaker 3>the movie and they didn't want to pay the guys

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 3>who started the club, so they just flipped the name

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 3>and stole the name. But the real club was the

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Radio Club, and it was owned by a couple of

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:45.919
<v Speaker 3>guys that were like graffiti artists by way in New York,

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 3>but they were Europeans. One was Russian, and they they

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 3>had Malcolm McLaren there. People it was like trendy white kids.

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 3>Adam Ant would be up in the Motherfucker And it

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 3>was in MacArthur Park And I actually put Madonna on

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 3>stage in that club because I went there. They found

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 3>out I had a record out I went there. I

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 3>became kind of like the stage manager, and if you

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.760
<v Speaker 3>wanted to wrap, you had to wrap to me downstairs,

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 3>and then I go up and do the introduction. Okay,

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 3>quest Love just got here as helicopter just land in

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 3>the parking lot. You better be good, nigga, and then

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 3>and here it goes and pown and you would just

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 3>be on stage getting it off. So they bring this

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 3>girl in, they go, her name's Madonna, and I took

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 3>her downstairs and she had this record called Physical Attraction.

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I never heard of you, you know, but

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 3>you got a record. And I let her perform and

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 3>she performing during the show, she was touching me like

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 3>use me as a prop. And I had a black girlfriend.

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh that did not go well that night.

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>And this before y'all were label mates.

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, Madonna had just came out. She was with

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Jellybean Benitas back in the day. Yes, and uh, you know,

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 3>so that's the history. So that's where you know, the

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 3>radio was where we were performing. And then the people

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 3>came in. They saw the scene. They go, you'll be

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:10.800
<v Speaker 3>the rapper. You guys will be the dancers. And Glove

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 3>was the DJ. You know the history the glove. Glove

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:18.320
<v Speaker 3>was carrying the equipment into the place. And the owner

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 3>of the clubs like we needed DJ and gloves, like

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 3>I could DJ. They go, you got a DJ name,

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 3>he goes Nah, and the nigga had on gloves. You

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 3>could be clubs and they'll caught on gloves and now

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 3>he was the house DJ at the Radio, but when

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 3>it came out on the movie, it became the Radio Tron.

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 3>But the real name of the club was the Radio.

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 2>All right, So can you talk about the coldest rap?

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 2>One of our best episodes ever was with Jimmy Jam

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 2>and he explained how for the two people that have

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:58.840
<v Speaker 2>not heard the six hour Jimmy Jam episode, you know

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Jam basically the anthology, Yeah, theology of tell me jim

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 2>you know. He explained that, you know, after they left

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Prince that they were basically worked for hiring musicians. But

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean at the time, it wasn't like you went

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 2>and said, oh, let me get those two dudes from

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 2>the time to do a track for me. You were

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>just buying tracks from anyone or nah nah.

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 3>So I used to get my hair done at this

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 3>spot called Good Fred right just when I had to

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 3>perm my shit was more wavy than the ships in

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 3>the Navy. You know what I'm saying. I had to

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 3>out match the girls. You know what I'm saying, That's

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:32.439
<v Speaker 3>what a player has to do. You gotta look better

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 3>than these chicks. So they understand, they got they got

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 3>to get together to get what you dig it so

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 3>my hair to get together. And I would say these

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 3>rhymes right my walking around rhymes like you know, I'm

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 3>the pimp to play at the Woman Layer, the Holy Doula,

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.240
<v Speaker 3>the whole house ruler. I just pimp poors and slam

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.799
<v Speaker 3>Cadillac doors. So I'm saying this. And this guy named

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Willie Strong, who owned VIP Records, the very famous record

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:59.279
<v Speaker 3>store that Snoop is standing on and in his first

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 3>U you know, a Boogog video, they came to me

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and they said, you want to make a record, and

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 3>it was just like a run, you know. They threw

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 3>me inside the Cadillac and the chauffeur drove off and

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.399
<v Speaker 3>he never came back. So they it took me from

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 3>the the beauty parlor, the salon to a studio and

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 3>there was they had this track with Jimmy jam and

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Terry Lewis. They owned the track and it was some

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 3>chicks singing on it and they cleared it. And they say,

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 3>rap rappers that haven't made records have a million rhymes.

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 3>They're ready to go. You know what I'm saying. You

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:38.839
<v Speaker 3>never rule one. If you're a well known rapper, never

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 3>battle an unsigned rapper. I had a bunch of rhymes, right,

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.879
<v Speaker 3>So I went in there and they were like, say

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 3>a rhyme, So I had to write a hook. I

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 3>knew I needed a hook, so I wrote, you know,

0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm a player, That's all I know. In the summer day,

0:45:59.920 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I play in the snow meaning cocaine from the wound

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 3>to the tomb. I run my game because I'm cold

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 3>as ice, and I show no shame. So that's all

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:09.359
<v Speaker 3>I That's all I needed. And once I did that,

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 3>I just went in there. You know, the ladies say

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 3>that I'm heaven sent because I got more money than

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 3>the US meant. I ride ragtop rolls, rocks on my hand, Mysarati's, Mercedes,

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 3>Benz ocean Liners, private jets, bel Air Bookies placed my bets.

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 3>I own islands off the coast of France, and I

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.799
<v Speaker 3>wear design of shirts and pants. Honey. When I was

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:30.120
<v Speaker 3>brought into this world, my mama never asked if I

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 3>was a boy or a girl. Because I rolled over

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 3>to it and gave her a kisses. She said, Yo, Daddy,

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 3>don't rock me like this, all right, So this is

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 3>the code. So I say this shit right off the

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 3>head off the dome, and that's my first record on

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 3>Saturn Records, produced by Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis, and

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.240
<v Speaker 3>I made two hundred dollars. Wow.

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.799
<v Speaker 2>So how was that parlay into when we first met

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 2>you nationally with Breaking?

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, that was my first experience with records. And when

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 3>you want to make a record, you want to make

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 3>a record more than get paid. You just want to

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:09.240
<v Speaker 3>make a record. So I made that record. That records

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 3>what led me to the radio tron see me saying

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 3>they they heard I had a record, and they booked

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 3>me to come and and and I was at the

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 3>radio tron when the movie Breaking came in. When the

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 3>movie Breaking came in, they said, we said, can we

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 3>make a song for the album? Me and Glove made Reckless,

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 3>which Eminem says the first rap record he ever heard.

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 3>And that was like, you know, reckless when platinum?

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 3>So I had got a bag, but I hadn't. I

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.800
<v Speaker 3>didn't have a record deal or anything. And then I

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:49.320
<v Speaker 3>was connected to this other DJ in La called Unknown

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 3>and he we made.

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:55.680
<v Speaker 1>It was he Unknown from Cotton was wanted down with them?

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, he had a record a label called Techno

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Hop and Compass. Most Wanted was on there and Uh.

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:04.439
<v Speaker 3>He was like, come on, Ice to make a record

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 3>for me. Fuck that, you know, And I said, okay,

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 3>So I made a record call you Don't Quit. And

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 3>then the second one was Dog and a Wax with

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 3>six in the Morning on the B side. And as

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Chuck D said, when that, yeah, my identity was was connected.

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but at the time, were you conscious of like, Okay,

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I've been party rocking, now how can I pivot to

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:27.800
<v Speaker 2>reality rhymes?

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Like what was your mind? Stated with that?

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:32.760
<v Speaker 3>I was trying to be a rapper. I was rapping

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 3>like meling them. You know, I'm drinking, I'm wearing spikes

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 3>and shit. You know, I thought, you know, this is

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 3>what you gotta do, and I'm trying to get in.

0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:45.799
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's nobody in LA to look at.

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, but six in the Wrner was pretty serious

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:51.920
<v Speaker 1>at the time. So but that came.

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:55.480
<v Speaker 3>From Schoolly D. Thank you. You know what, I'm always

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 3>telling you the truth because my boys told me, they said,

0:48:57.719 --> 0:49:00.399
<v Speaker 3>I he's never lie because motherfuckers ain't going don't believe

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 3>the truth, you understand, So this give them the truth. No,

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying these rhymes to my boys. I'm saying that

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 3>gangster shit, you know, strolling through the city middle of

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:15.359
<v Speaker 3>the night, niggas on my left, niggas on my right,

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:18.279
<v Speaker 3>yelling cut cook cup rip to everybody. I see, if

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:20.320
<v Speaker 3>you're bad enough, come fuck with me. So I'm saying

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 3>these kind of rhymes for the gangs, but I didn't.

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's negative shit, like people don't want

0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:28.320
<v Speaker 3>to hear that. So I'm saying certain reps to entertain

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 3>my friends. And then I'm then I'm saying party rhymes

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 3>for hip hop. You feel me. I know the Iceberg

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 3>slim type shit, but I don't know what translates. So

0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 3>then I hear PSK and it blew my mind. I

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:47.759
<v Speaker 3>was in Santa Monica and I heard first the track

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 3>came on. The track sounded I never done Angel does,

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.279
<v Speaker 3>but the track sounded like Angel does a bunch of

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 3>ye I'm like, And then Schooley came on. PSK.

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 7>We making that green people what we say now? At

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:05.320
<v Speaker 7>that time, everyone was yelling on records, who is a

0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 7>fly nigga? You know, one by one, I'm knocking out he's.

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 3>For the way my DJs cut, you know, put my

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:18.880
<v Speaker 3>pistol up against his heads and sucking ass. I was like,

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:25.240
<v Speaker 3>then I researched it. PSK's Park Side Killers. He's repping

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 3>a set. It's okay, feel me. That was the green light, Like, oh,

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 3>they want to hear this kind of ship I got

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 3>all day, you feel me?

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:38.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:41.279
<v Speaker 3>So we go in and we do six in the

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:45.760
<v Speaker 3>morning and six in the morning. I took the Remember

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:47.839
<v Speaker 3>I remember the Beasi Boys had a record called holding

0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Out hit It, yeah, hold it down where the record

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of stopped and then took off again. So I

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 3>wanted that for six in the morning. So that's where

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:03.400
<v Speaker 3>like the record, then boom it starts again. So holy

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.360
<v Speaker 3>now I hit it was the genesis of that track.

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:10.840
<v Speaker 3>The beat just a basic beat kind of something with

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 3>eight away and then I come in on the same

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:19.360
<v Speaker 3>exact cadence as schooly d PSK. We're making that green

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:23.840
<v Speaker 3>six in the morning, police Fuel Fresh indeed to squeak

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 3>across the bathroom floor back and that is it was

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 3>more graphic and deeper. Now wasn't gonna hit I don't know.

0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 3>So I get a call from the Fillmore West in Frisco.

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:42.240
<v Speaker 3>We like you to do a show up here. I'm like, sure,

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, boom bam. Five days later they call me back,

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 3>we want you to do a show up here. I said,

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 3>I already booked the show in that same place. They

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 3>said that sold out. Well I'm not on LA radio.

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 3>But they start playing me on km EL there in

0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:01.759
<v Speaker 3>the Bay and was on and then later on you

0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:05.440
<v Speaker 3>want to track the movement? Cube did the record? Boys

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:09.720
<v Speaker 3>in the hood are always hard, right, which he's said

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 3>with Six in the Morning Part two. But it's all schooly,

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:17.879
<v Speaker 3>these cadence. It's all schooly, these cadences. So a lot

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:20.839
<v Speaker 3>of times rappers are jack cadences and you won't even

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 3>know the credit. Well, thank you. You know, players love

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:26.799
<v Speaker 3>to give credit. You know what I'm saying. It's like,

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, you wouldn't know if I didn't tell you.

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:39.280
<v Speaker 3>Like Colorsrestill get this Colors comes from Mythological by King's Son. Colors.

0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Listen to King Son when I get ill, it's a

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:45.919
<v Speaker 3>reason because it's duck season, Hunter of the Front, right,

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 3>that was That's how myth the mythological mythological rappers. You

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 3>got a lot to learn that record.

0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I've not heard that record, Mythological Mythological by King you

0:52:57.560 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 2>know King Son, Yes, of course I'm King son.

0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, well, that's how it comes on. When I get ill,

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 3>it's a reason because it's duck season, Hunter of the Fronter.

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:10.879
<v Speaker 3>I am a nightmare walk walking talking right, if I'm

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 3>a jungle just a gangst to stalking, so you know,

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 3>you can. I think all of us are influenced by

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 3>other people. And if it's done well, because hip hop

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:23.239
<v Speaker 3>is all samples and stuff, if it's done well, you'll

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 3>never know. You'll never know because it's done well. But

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:29.759
<v Speaker 3>I always try to give a shout out to the

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 3>people that inspired those particular songs.

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been friends with Seymour about eleven twelve

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:44.319
<v Speaker 2>years now because I'm also in the Rock and Roll

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame committee.

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.399
<v Speaker 3>Seymore signs of genius man.

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 2>He literally says, you know, and he's had like health

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:53.760
<v Speaker 2>is used and all that stuff in the past ten years.

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 2>He's like he is not going six feet underground until

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:00.799
<v Speaker 2>he gets you in the rock own Hall of Fame.

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:06.319
<v Speaker 2>And literally every year it's in case you don't think

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 2>like you're even thought of or in line or whatever,

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 2>but Seymour, like you're always We get two votes each

0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 2>as a committee member on who gets nominated. When I

0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:20.520
<v Speaker 2>was first there in two thousand and seven to now, like,

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:23.799
<v Speaker 2>trust me to tell you my Seymour Seigins story. Yeah,

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:28.360
<v Speaker 2>tell me Seymour signs. Seymour Stein, the president of Siah Records.

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Who signed it, Talking Heads, Madonna Ministry, Uh, you know

0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Ramones yep. So I have Six in the Morning out

0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 3>and it was getting energy off from the in the

0:54:41.480 --> 0:54:45.240
<v Speaker 3>East coast. Scott lod Rock was playing it and Africa

0:54:45.360 --> 0:54:48.879
<v Speaker 3>Islam was somebody who I met at the radio who

0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:52.560
<v Speaker 3>was very intrigued with me because the New York rappers

0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:54.840
<v Speaker 3>would come out to LA. I already had to push

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 3>the jewelry, the money in the girls, and at that

0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:01.319
<v Speaker 3>time nobody had made any money on rap. Niggas hadn't

0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 3>bought cars yet, you know, so they like, why do

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:04.920
<v Speaker 3>you want to rap?

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:05.799
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:08.920
<v Speaker 3>But what I was doing, the warranty was about to

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:11.640
<v Speaker 3>be up, all right, So I want to rap. I

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 3>like rapping, and my friends were going to prison, penitentiary,

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:17.239
<v Speaker 3>blah blah, getting shot, this, that and the other because

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 3>we was active active. So Islam liked me, like he

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:25.200
<v Speaker 3>just liked me. And so he's like, they won't play

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:27.319
<v Speaker 3>your record in New York unless you come to New

0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 3>York because what you're talking, they need to see you're authentic.

0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:34.000
<v Speaker 3>So I came out to one hundred and fifty six

0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 3>and ten in South Bronx, and I was out there,

0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 3>so I met Scotland rock and but by it being

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 3>African Islam, I met New York from the top down.

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:44.319
<v Speaker 3>It was like, what was.

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 5>Your look at the time.

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I'm trying to picture this because like you said,

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 4>I like you had to hair.

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:50.440
<v Speaker 5>You had to so you went to the Bronx.

0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Look, I have fela on and jewelry and a.

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 5>Prim Okay, okay, make sure them.

0:55:57.120 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 3>Niggas just thought I looked like a pimp. But I

0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 3>was rapping my West Coast shit. You know, a player

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:05.960
<v Speaker 3>plays the whole bubble, from the pineapple to the big Apple,

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:08.400
<v Speaker 3>from the snowflakes to the earthquakes. You understand me. Wherever

0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:11.000
<v Speaker 3>I touched down, I'm gonna make it my town. So

0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:13.360
<v Speaker 3>I had the chrism and the gift the gap that

0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:15.440
<v Speaker 3>all the New York niggas liked me. I was different,

0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:17.480
<v Speaker 3>but they liked me. They knew I wasn't no bitch,

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:22.399
<v Speaker 3>so they liked me. So is is by being a boss,

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:26.560
<v Speaker 3>I meet Red Alert, Chuck, Chill Out, Scottland Rock, I

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:30.880
<v Speaker 3>meet all the bosses I didn't, so I'm hanging out.

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 3>There was a guy named Ralph Cooper Junior. You know

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 3>that is quest do not know? Raoper was the one

0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:41.319
<v Speaker 3>of the Apollo cats that like Rand Apollo from back

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 3>to his son. Okay, So Ralph Cooper Junior was like

0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:48.520
<v Speaker 3>trying to be an agent and he connected me and

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Mellie Mel and we did a record on Spring Records.

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 3>And I was in the studio with Melly Mel and

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:58.919
<v Speaker 3>Caz like these idols of mine and uh he took

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:05.279
<v Speaker 3>a compilation and to see Seymour Stein okay with Melly Mel, Grandmaster,

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Kaz Donald d from the Bee Boys that had the

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:12.799
<v Speaker 3>song stick Up Kids and Girls, myself and a kid

0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 3>named Bronx Style Bob. Oh wow, this was the compilation.

0:57:19.040 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Kaz was still connected to. Kaz had a thing with

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Tough City a deal, Mel had something with sugar Hill,

0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:32.320
<v Speaker 3>Donald had something with entertainment. I was free and Bob

0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 3>had never made a record, Okay, So Seymour just said

0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:40.240
<v Speaker 3>I'll take ice tea. And he wasn't hip hop enough

0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 3>to know that you couldn't rap if few from the

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 3>West Coast. He was his ignorance was like, fuck it,

0:57:46.520 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 3>I'll take ice tea. I'll never forget me. And Islam

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:51.920
<v Speaker 3>went up to Sire Records to meet with him, and

0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Seymour was dancing around in his socks and looking me

0:57:57.400 --> 0:58:00.880
<v Speaker 3>in the eyes and said, you have such beautiful eyes.

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh shit, this is that part

0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 3>where they want me using day shit. And Islam was like,

0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 3>stay down, he's gonna sign the check. Stay down, just

0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 3>hold you down. So then he said, you sound like

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:27.720
<v Speaker 3>Bob Dylan, and I knew Bob Dylan was a subterranean

0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:30.880
<v Speaker 3>homesick blues He's rapping on that. I'm like okay. And

0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:34.560
<v Speaker 3>then Seymour said the most genius shit to me. He said,

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:37.560
<v Speaker 3>do you understand the music from Trinidad? This stuff they're

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 3>singing about, the Calypso music. I'm like no, he said,

0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:44.240
<v Speaker 3>there sing about the problems here in the islands. He says,

0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 3>but just because you don't understand it does not make

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:51.200
<v Speaker 3>it invalid. It just means you don't understand it. And

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:54.600
<v Speaker 3>the same way I might underderstand hip hop, but it

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 3>doesn't make what you're saying any less valid. He says.

0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand it, but I know you're saying something.

0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 3>So he gave me. He gave me forty thousand dollars

0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:06.240
<v Speaker 3>and we made the first album. We went out and

0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:09.800
<v Speaker 3>bought an SB twelve, a nine O nine and a

0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:13.880
<v Speaker 3>gold chain. What else do you need?

0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Starting hit at one on.

0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 3>One, the whole album in secret sound studios, mixed the

0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:25.440
<v Speaker 3>whole album in one night, no automation back in them days.

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:31.840
<v Speaker 3>And Ryan pays now is platinum, so uh, forty thousand

0:59:31.880 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 3>dollars budget, and Seymour was just he was smart enough

0:59:37.120 --> 0:59:40.120
<v Speaker 3>to say he didn't know. I'll never forget. Here's another story.

0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:43.360
<v Speaker 3>There's a lyric in this record I did called I

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Love the Ladies where I go, guys grab a girl, girls,

0:59:45.800 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 3>grab a guy. If God wants a god, please take

0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:53.640
<v Speaker 3>it outside. So Seymour goes aes, what it? This is?

0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:54.400
<v Speaker 5>Gay man?

0:59:54.960 --> 0:59:57.920
<v Speaker 3>I said, Seymour, I'm not gay bashing, but if you

0:59:57.960 --> 0:59:59.920
<v Speaker 3>could say you're gay, can I say I'm straight?

1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:00.840
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Right? And then I said has your daughter listened to it?

1:00:05.480 --> 1:00:07.320
<v Speaker 3>And she said yeah. I said, what does she say?

1:00:08.200 --> 1:00:11.160
<v Speaker 3>She loves it? And then I go I said, Seymour,

1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:18.680
<v Speaker 3>that tension you feel that might be money, and he said,

1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:25.120
<v Speaker 3>Touchet hung the phone. That that that tension is the money.

1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:26.280
<v Speaker 3>That's the money right there.

1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:32.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, used marketing to the hilt, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>just based on your album covers alone, we were going

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<v Speaker 2>to buy your record. You have never ever ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>a note or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Take it quest this is what the deal was, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I was never going to get on the radio, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I had already determined that because we would. We decided

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<v Speaker 3>we were outlaw music. So me Luke too short, ghetto boys.

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<v Speaker 3>We were cursing, and at that time I refused to

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<v Speaker 3>do a radio edit. That was like selling out to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck that. This is how the shit is now. There

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<v Speaker 3>was a time where you could get people to buy

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<v Speaker 3>records because they had stickers on them, like people wanted

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<v Speaker 3>that forbidden shit, right. So what I did as far

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<v Speaker 3>as marketing does, I hired Glenn Freedman.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Glenn, Yes, legendary Glen Freeman.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, he did LL's cover, he did Runs cover, He

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<v Speaker 3>done bec Boy covers. So I'm like, I need my

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<v Speaker 3>cover to be at the same quality as them, so

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<v Speaker 3>it sits right alongside of them. You gotta have the

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<v Speaker 3>palm tree. You got the Porsche you got the girl,

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<v Speaker 3>you cannot look like New York. Then I had a

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<v Speaker 3>meeting with my team because I was the first rapper

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<v Speaker 3>signed to Warner Brothers, I was there before. I was

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<v Speaker 3>the first rapper signed to a major really, and that

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<v Speaker 3>was before Cole Chilling came over there and uptown over there.

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<v Speaker 3>But I took a map and I said, okay. I

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<v Speaker 3>circled the Tri state area and I said, okay, this

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<v Speaker 3>is New York. This is Philly. You know, this is Jersey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is hip hop. Right, that's the East coast. But

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<v Speaker 3>dig this, the West Coast starts right here, right on

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<v Speaker 3>the outside of Philly. I just wiped the whole map, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, because anybody that's not from that try state

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't give a fuck because they're not from either. So Detroit,

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<v Speaker 3>we want Detroit, we want Chicago West what that? We

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<v Speaker 3>just called everything from Philly the West Coast because the

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<v Speaker 3>was holding it so tight. We're like, we just take

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of this shit. So and it still stands today.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're not from New York and you're from Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't give a fuck. If you're you don't care

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<v Speaker 3>because you're not either. So Luke had that same science.

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<v Speaker 3>They were down in Florida getting a bunch of money,

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<v Speaker 3>Sir mix a lot got a bunch of money from Washington.

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<v Speaker 3>So New York kind of shot themselves in the foot

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<v Speaker 3>early in the game by being so regional that hip

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<v Speaker 3>hop's gonna grow. Hip hop is a virus. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>grow whether you or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, So okay, with There's one of your legendary shows

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<v Speaker 2>is still in its complete form on YouTube. There's There's

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<v Speaker 2>a show of yours live in Vancouver nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty nine. Yeah, and I was shocked at how heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know by this time your third album, Just

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<v Speaker 2>Watch what You Say Freedom of Speech is out and

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<v Speaker 2>based on your intro loan with the shut Up You're

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Joan, your show was so high powered it was

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<v Speaker 2>almost like a rock show, even before body Count the

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<v Speaker 2>body count thing starts. So at what point are you

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<v Speaker 2>pivoting to that level of energy in your live shows

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<v Speaker 2>where it's almost like a rock show, even though it

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<v Speaker 2>is you and evenly like on stage just rocking together.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what it is? Quest? I always thing was like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're coming to see a show, what are you

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<v Speaker 3>coming to see? So if I'm coming to see the

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<v Speaker 3>fat Boys. I'm coming to see three fat boys. If

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<v Speaker 3>I'm coming to see Curtis Blow, it's Curtis Blow. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know, so what is ic? And my

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<v Speaker 3>thing was, I'm gonna take you into the darkness of

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<v Speaker 3>South central Los Angeles. I'm gonna give you I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>set up this energy, this dark and sinister and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So we had to catch with the best song early

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<v Speaker 3>in the game and all that kind of stuff. The

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<v Speaker 3>metal influence was just darkness to me. You know. We

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<v Speaker 3>tried not to do happy records, even though we did shit,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, let's get butt naked and fucking stuff like

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<v Speaker 3>that was always an intention to keep it still to today.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Chuck will say, Ice is one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>theatrical rappers because I like to bring everything down and

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<v Speaker 3>just put a spotlight on me and just let let

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<v Speaker 3>me take you there on my these these adventures like

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<v Speaker 3>a midnight you know. But that was just a choice

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<v Speaker 3>because Caine's dancing, right, I ain't got no motherfucking dances,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, Dougie Fresh, because our first

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<v Speaker 3>tour we went out on, we went out on a

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<v Speaker 3>dope Jam Tour. It was us KRS one A Boogie

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<v Speaker 3>Down Productions, Uh Kumode, Dougie Fresh, Eric being Rock Kim

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<v Speaker 3>with somebody Obizmarck and we're to open and act. So

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<v Speaker 3>how do you I'm from the area of Request where

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta be different, like you can't be like everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>So we had a police car out there and we're

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<v Speaker 3>throwing money before making rain. We had cell phones, big

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<v Speaker 3>old big phones, and we were giving you that energy.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just didn't want to be the guy that

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<v Speaker 3>comes out on the stage and it's, you know, looking

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<v Speaker 3>cool and trying to wrap. I want to set a tone,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what that was all about. It still is

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<v Speaker 3>when you go see Ice t show.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, this is the question I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>know and have answered, and I can't believe it's taking

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<v Speaker 2>me this long to answered. Okay, I do not know

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<v Speaker 2>the history of the story, So break it down like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in kindergarten.

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<v Speaker 1>What was now?

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<v Speaker 2>As we talked about earlier with the Grammy thing, my

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<v Speaker 2>one concern was, are you in LLLL going to be

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<v Speaker 2>cool with each other? Because I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>guys amended it or made up or whatever. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>please tell me what the genesis of the beef between

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<v Speaker 2>you two, because you know, when I heard pushing man

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<v Speaker 2>and simple you push a man rejected ll I was like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>what was that about?

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<v Speaker 3>It's simple all right? I started it, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>ll LL was I'm the baddest, I'm the greatest, I'm this,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm that okay. Llll was actually out before me, so

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<v Speaker 3>he was like the eminem or he was the dude

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta get. I'm coming out of LA. I got

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<v Speaker 3>the whole West Coast on my back. I don't got

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<v Speaker 3>the crips and the bloods. I got the Crypts and

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<v Speaker 3>the Bloods and Bay Area everybody on my back. Ice Tea.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just what it is. You got. I gotta take

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<v Speaker 3>off on this nigga. I gotta let him know, like

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<v Speaker 3>you might, thank you the best fuck that you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's just part of the culture. That's just what

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<v Speaker 3>it is, you know, Because I can't come out from

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<v Speaker 3>LA and say about a ll cool J right now,

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<v Speaker 3>not when I'm trying to come out like she was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to be in a boss. I'm yo, you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>set it with this nigga like so I set it

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<v Speaker 3>off right, and he came back. He got at me

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<v Speaker 3>on the break of dawn and I was gonna reply.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a record called Open Contract and Bam bothering

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<v Speaker 3>them stepped in because l was trying to be down

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<v Speaker 3>with Zulus. There was a legendary meet up with me

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<v Speaker 3>and him at a Flavored Flave party and we squashed

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<v Speaker 3>it before it got hectic, you know, but we were

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<v Speaker 3>just the date. It was one of those things. He

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<v Speaker 3>was battling Kumo d he was battling a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>motherfucker yes, yes, but it was me. I started it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I did it. I did it as an act

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<v Speaker 3>of war, like I did it because it was time

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<v Speaker 3>for Ice Tea to step up and say fuck you,

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<v Speaker 3>you know now.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was business, not personal.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. L cool J. Yeah, it's business. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's like it's kind of like that's what hip hop was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like you know, you you challenged the nigga

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<v Speaker 3>whoever is the boss at the time, and he was

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<v Speaker 3>the boss and I'm never at no point was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yo, let me be down with this dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, no, I'm from la I'm from the I'm from Gangland,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what. I'm saying we don't get down like that.

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<v Speaker 3>We we go we take You know, you gotta set

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<v Speaker 3>it like that's that's that's what my coast expected me

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<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Yet I'll handle it before it got physical too, though,

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<v Speaker 5>right that.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't a days nobody was getting shot. This is pride

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<v Speaker 3>and all that. This is just rap shit. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just letting the record show because some people don't

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<v Speaker 4>even know that there was a word.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we didn't threaten to tell it. Tell

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<v Speaker 3>ll nigga you can't come to La. We we was

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<v Speaker 3>on the bullshit, but it got squashed early. And so

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<v Speaker 3>what me and him agreed to do was not necessarily apologized,

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<v Speaker 3>but just not talk about it. It okay. So we

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<v Speaker 3>never talked about it, and that was it. And I

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<v Speaker 3>never held anything against ll But the crazy part of

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<v Speaker 3>the story quest me and LLL bumped into each other

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five years later in Monte Carlo. Of course, we

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<v Speaker 3>were at we were at a television a convention, and

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<v Speaker 3>I walked up to L and extended my hand and said, man,

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<v Speaker 3>me and you have never talked dotty dotty do I'm

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<v Speaker 3>want to let you know, like you said, wasn't personal.

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<v Speaker 3>It was only business. You know, I had to come

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<v Speaker 3>at you, man, you was the guy to come at

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<v Speaker 3>and he was like Ice, it was a culture and

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<v Speaker 3>that was it. And then he called me up. He said, Ice,

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<v Speaker 3>I need you to help me out on Rock the

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<v Speaker 3>Bells radio. And since then me and him have podcasts

1:10:28.479 --> 1:10:30.800
<v Speaker 3>together and all that. You know, it's like his rock

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<v Speaker 3>sand Chante is still mad. You know. It's like right

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<v Speaker 3>part of the game back.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, in your prominence and in your rise as you're

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<v Speaker 2>making these records for people that are watching you, like

1:10:48.120 --> 1:10:52.080
<v Speaker 2>is art imitating life? Because I know that once you

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<v Speaker 2>rise up in stature, then.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn near the whole West Coast is willing to ride

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<v Speaker 1>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I can't imagine that everyone is wishing you well,

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<v Speaker 2>wishing you good luck or whatever. Like again, you said

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<v Speaker 2>that you're a reluctant leader, So how do you know

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<v Speaker 2>who to weed out, like who's good for the organization

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<v Speaker 2>and who to weed out, who to avoid, who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to kill the money, who's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to drop the bag on you?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, how are you navigating in terms of knowing which

1:11:25.160 --> 1:11:28.599
<v Speaker 2>right team to have on your side in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>stopping your bag so to speak? By having the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>people associated with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, God, remember I got put on by Zulu nation, right,

1:11:37.600 --> 1:11:40.080
<v Speaker 3>so I would I admired the Zulu nation, how they

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<v Speaker 3>had tried called quests and busting all these cats together

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<v Speaker 3>and they were all going in the same direction. I

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<v Speaker 3>really admired that whole Zulu thing. So I went to

1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:53.760
<v Speaker 3>back to La. Now I studied gangstas, right, so I

1:11:53.800 --> 1:11:57.600
<v Speaker 3>will reading up on Lucky Luciano and mar Lansky and

1:11:57.640 --> 1:12:01.280
<v Speaker 3>all these cats, and Lucky Licio created this thing called

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<v Speaker 3>the Commission, which kept the five families from killing each

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<v Speaker 3>other because they created sit downs. So I created something

1:12:07.880 --> 1:12:11.360
<v Speaker 3>in La called the syndicate, the rhyme syndicate, which was

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<v Speaker 3>a group of groups with a common goal with no boss.

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<v Speaker 3>So Cypress Hill that's a crew, DJ Aladdin and dub

1:12:20.680 --> 1:12:24.840
<v Speaker 3>C low Profile, that's a crew. So all these different groups, everlast,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a group. Each one of these cats had a

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<v Speaker 3>group of people, and we made an agreement before we

1:12:31.320 --> 1:12:35.160
<v Speaker 3>would beef, we would sit down and talk. And that's

1:12:35.200 --> 1:12:38.080
<v Speaker 3>why you've never heard of a West Coast beef ever,

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<v Speaker 3>because anybody that wasn't syndicate was either nw A or

1:12:43.280 --> 1:12:46.479
<v Speaker 3>Delicious Vinyl, which was just Tone Low and Young MC.

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<v Speaker 3>It was kind of like Syndicate too a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Now nw A had a beef, but that was a

1:12:52.720 --> 1:12:56.840
<v Speaker 3>family feud and everyone had to step back because it was.

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<v Speaker 1>A family's blood you got.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Syndicate is still alive. And King T was

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<v Speaker 3>part of it to the alcoholics, because I created something

1:13:09.120 --> 1:13:12.519
<v Speaker 3>that said I'm not in charge each one of you gang.

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<v Speaker 3>Each one of you cells are separate, but together we're powerful.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I did. I created an organization. People

1:13:22.280 --> 1:13:25.600
<v Speaker 3>say you created your own gang. I did, and inside

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<v Speaker 3>of it there was no gang bang. So if you

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<v Speaker 3>were Syndicate, you no longer as crippled blood. When we're

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<v Speaker 3>in the studio, we're all part of the same shit.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just taught them all like, look, man, we

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<v Speaker 3>all going in the same direction, and ain't no reason

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<v Speaker 3>to be hating on somebody unless you're a bitch. So

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<v Speaker 3>all of us should help each other. And that's how

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<v Speaker 3>the producers start to getting waved and all the different

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that, and Dre and them understood, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was just love. I got a good sense of you

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<v Speaker 3>know who's around me and shit like that. But you

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<v Speaker 3>got to keep that your whole life got to keep remembering.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an orphan, so I'm hyper sensitive to everything that's

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<v Speaker 3>going on around me. I'm hyper sensitive.

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<v Speaker 2>So but as an orphan, did you feel like the obligatory?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I gotta take you all with me. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to take care of all of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Or early I did, Early I did when I first

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<v Speaker 3>got got some bread, legit bread. I never felt that

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<v Speaker 3>way with illegal money, you know, with illegal money, nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>I got this is mine like nigga, like you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I never felt charitable or any of that shit, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm taking pen every tensory chances for this. But

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<v Speaker 3>when I start getting legit money. The first time I

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<v Speaker 3>got it, I couldn't hold food down. I would actually

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<v Speaker 3>throw my food back up because I and I went

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<v Speaker 3>to a gastrologist and he said they thought I had

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<v Speaker 3>ulcers and they're like nah, And they sent me to

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<v Speaker 3>a word psychiatrists. And this is a guy that helps

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<v Speaker 3>people hit one hundred miles an hour fastballs while are

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<v Speaker 3>going through one hundred million dollar divorce. And he said,

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<v Speaker 3>tell me your problems. I talked for about a half hour. Quiet,

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<v Speaker 3>quiet guy. Well dog, he said, tell me your problems.

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<v Speaker 3>And I talked and then he gave me a prescription

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<v Speaker 3>quest He pushed you to me, and it said no.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, you just talked for an hour half hour.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't tell me about any of your problems. You

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<v Speaker 3>told them about all your friends problems. He said, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a guilt that goes along with success, and now the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that you're successful, you feel guilty that your friends

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<v Speaker 3>aren't doing well. But you got to learn how to

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<v Speaker 3>say no, because when you say yes, you take someone

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<v Speaker 3>else's problem and turn it into yours. Damn, I had

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<v Speaker 3>to learn how to say no to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 3>But know's a great word. It'll test the temperature of

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<v Speaker 3>any relationship, even your woman. See, you got to have

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<v Speaker 3>like we talking about the daily game, you got to

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<v Speaker 3>have limits because take takers have no limits, they'll ravage you,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, So you got to set a limit. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I use my gut, but I've been fortunate. I've been betrayed.

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<v Speaker 3>I got set up by my boys, almost got killed.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been through it.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you got to the point where you have to

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<v Speaker 4>protect your energy as well? Now too, like where you've

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<v Speaker 4>understood that as well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, well I had it gave me high blood pressure,

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<v Speaker 3>so now if you try to if me and you

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<v Speaker 3>were friends and you try to aggravate me, my brain says,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna let you kill me. You ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 3>kill me, right, you got to go. So I learned

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<v Speaker 3>how to. You know, I can just connect from people

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<v Speaker 3>real quick. And it's a known fact. So the people

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<v Speaker 3>that are in my circle, no Ice is not the

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<v Speaker 3>nigga's name is Ice. I don't want no stress. Everybody

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<v Speaker 3>better keep it calm and I will excommunicate you, like,

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<v Speaker 3>don't bring it. My boys will call me up and

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<v Speaker 3>it be like this to be like, yo, what's up Ice?

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<v Speaker 3>No drama? No drama right right? You know, no drama,

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<v Speaker 3>No drama, you know, because what my life is. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in a different place right now. Man, Like you look,

1:17:15.640 --> 1:17:19.519
<v Speaker 3>I got fish, aquar ams and pump. I'm not. I

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<v Speaker 3>spent my time on the front line. I'm cool. Like

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<v Speaker 3>niggas is like I'm outside, I'm like I'm inside.

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<v Speaker 1>So I let me ask.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, there's a period between eighty eight, eighty

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<v Speaker 2>nine to ninety and which, like I will say that

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<v Speaker 2>you became the go to pundit or voice to politically

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<v Speaker 2>speak on behalf of you know, rap music, or like

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<v Speaker 2>you're on Donahue this week and you're on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Ted Coppo this weekend, like you How exhausting was it

1:17:56.600 --> 1:18:00.640
<v Speaker 2>like having that weight placed on your shoulders? Because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a point where and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you remember this, I think back in eighty six run

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<v Speaker 2>DMC and them did a show and either at Anaheim

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<v Speaker 2>or Long Beach or something, and you know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the first time we're hearing about like violence and rap

1:18:13.760 --> 1:18:16.840
<v Speaker 2>music and all that stuff. And suddenly it's like you

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<v Speaker 2>were the chosen and spoke like mouthpiece for.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these like talk shows. How exhausting was that?

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of wanted to smoke you.

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<v Speaker 1>Did so you wanted to play the outlaw and just no,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>To play the person that could could could intellectualize it

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<v Speaker 3>and break it down for these people. You know, like

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<v Speaker 3>my whole life has almost been explaining to the squares

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<v Speaker 3>what the streets it is thinking, and explaining to the

1:18:45.520 --> 1:18:48.200
<v Speaker 3>streets how the squares are thinking. Like I've been that

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<v Speaker 3>translator in between, because even though I am hood, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>also well read and relatively intelligent, So I could I

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<v Speaker 3>spoke in front of Congress and you know, I can

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<v Speaker 3>break it down, you know, for what's going on. So

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<v Speaker 3>when they were coming at me about free speech or this,

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<v Speaker 3>that and the other, I was like, yeah, I'm ready

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<v Speaker 3>to go. I mean, at the end of the day

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<v Speaker 3>was me, Chuck and Chris who kind of like would

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<v Speaker 3>have and even still today, man George Floyd comes up,

1:19:22.280 --> 1:19:25.360
<v Speaker 3>my timeline blows up like ice, and I'm like, it's

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<v Speaker 3>honestly a damn shame that there's no youngsters, you know.

1:19:30.400 --> 1:19:34.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Killer Mike is out there, but it's a

1:19:34.640 --> 1:19:39.000
<v Speaker 3>damn shame that there's no real young people that can

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<v Speaker 3>really speak for the culture.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, you know. I mean, Kendrick doesn't speak that much,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's nobody out there on the front line speaking

1:19:49.680 --> 1:19:51.840
<v Speaker 3>about shit, you know. So they keep going to me,

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<v Speaker 3>and like I always tell people, I say, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>put it out there. If what we need right now,

1:19:59.479 --> 1:20:04.280
<v Speaker 3>we need a twenty year old public enemy, some little

1:20:04.360 --> 1:20:06.800
<v Speaker 3>bad motherfuckers who would go head up with all the

1:20:06.880 --> 1:20:10.759
<v Speaker 3>bullshit and let them know what's up. And a rebirth

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<v Speaker 3>of a young Lauren Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm your mouth to you guys, heres.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, you know, because those things are lacking right now.

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<v Speaker 3>In hip hop, you know, and that those voices are needed.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, the kids ain't gonna listen to me.

1:20:25.080 --> 1:20:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm their grandfather, you know what I'm saying. So they

1:20:28.160 --> 1:20:30.800
<v Speaker 3>not listening. But some little twenty year old cats coming

1:20:30.840 --> 1:20:33.799
<v Speaker 3>out popping that shit and letting motherfuckers know you bullshit

1:20:33.840 --> 1:20:36.040
<v Speaker 3>and you worried about this Gucci shit. You over here

1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:39.920
<v Speaker 3>fucking up da da da da blow what Public Enemy

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<v Speaker 3>did for us. We need another group to do that

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<v Speaker 3>for the youth.

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<v Speaker 1>A sure, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I wanted to ask you about og original gangs

1:20:47.760 --> 1:20:51.080
<v Speaker 3>then recording that out. What happens is hip hop doesn't

1:20:51.080 --> 1:20:53.920
<v Speaker 3>have a name for what we're doing. They don't have

1:20:53.960 --> 1:20:57.760
<v Speaker 3>a name for the music yet, so they're trying to

1:20:57.800 --> 1:21:01.519
<v Speaker 3>call it reality rap. They don't really know what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm for a minute, I called my stuff reality rap,

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<v Speaker 3>but that wasn't true because it's not everybody's reality. It

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<v Speaker 3>was my reality. So CBE comes out straight out of Compton,

1:21:16.320 --> 1:21:18.519
<v Speaker 3>Straight out of Compton dropped. I was already on my

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<v Speaker 3>third album when they dropped. They it felt like Godzilla

1:21:23.360 --> 1:21:26.160
<v Speaker 3>had landed, Like they came out like WHOA. I was

1:21:26.200 --> 1:21:29.920
<v Speaker 3>like yo. And the first lyrics straight out of Compton.

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<v Speaker 3>Crazy motherfucker named ice Cube from the gang called niggas

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<v Speaker 3>with attitudes, so they referred to their rap group as

1:21:37.240 --> 1:21:41.960
<v Speaker 3>a gang. The press said gangster rap. That's where the

1:21:42.040 --> 1:21:45.960
<v Speaker 3>term gangster rap came from. The press coined it from Cbe.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I've been doing it for two years, so I said, okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's gangster rap, I'm the original gangst feel me. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>OG is a term that gangs have been using in

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<v Speaker 3>LA for decades. It just means first generation of the set.

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<v Speaker 3>So if Questlove is OG roots, he's there might have

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<v Speaker 3>been people to change members, but he's OG. He's one

1:22:11.360 --> 1:22:15.839
<v Speaker 3>of the first members. So here comes this word original gangster.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do an album that had twenty four cuts

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<v Speaker 3>on it and they had just stopped making vinyl and it,

1:22:23.800 --> 1:22:26.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, it was supposed to have been a double album.

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<v Speaker 3>And I always like to do first. I was always

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<v Speaker 3>into doing first. I'm like, I was like, you you

1:22:31.200 --> 1:22:33.760
<v Speaker 3>can always argue who is better, but you can't argue

1:22:33.800 --> 1:22:36.639
<v Speaker 3>who is first, you know, so I want to be first,

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<v Speaker 3>and Chuck says. Chuck says, iced Tea is the only

1:22:41.040 --> 1:22:44.800
<v Speaker 3>person he knows that does things that totally jeopardize his

1:22:45.080 --> 1:22:49.960
<v Speaker 3>entire existence to stay away. You know, just just fuck it.

1:22:49.960 --> 1:22:52.519
<v Speaker 3>Everything's going good, fuck it, let's just try it a

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<v Speaker 3>different way. So that's it the OG album, and it

1:22:55.320 --> 1:22:58.360
<v Speaker 3>was a big megalong album with a lot of different

1:22:58.439 --> 1:23:00.320
<v Speaker 3>lenses and a lot of different energy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all, that's it for Part one.

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<v Speaker 2>Ice TV Gate Team and Supreme so much game on

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<v Speaker 2>this episode that we had to make it a two

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<v Speaker 2>part So make sure y'all check out Ice tea daily

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<v Speaker 2>game podcast with weekday words of wisdom. Give him a listen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, stay tuned for QLs Part two with one

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<v Speaker 2>and only legendary Iced Tea next week, where we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about his TV and his film work.

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