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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations people, Yes, indeed, Award Supreme.

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Speaker 3: We got hardware.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we did the damn thing.

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Speaker 3: We gotta tell him what award do we win?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he tells me what we won here.

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Speaker 4: Wet The award is I Heeart Music Podcast of the Year.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to Norri, You're great, but not as great.

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Speaker 6: Thought first, we ain't hardly the first beat between podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's love.

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Speaker 1: Love to everybody in the category. It's all love.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It goes without saying that our Guest Today is an

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Speaker 2: absolute legend, with a Grammy to boot, multiple Golden Platinum

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Speaker 2: albums to his credit. He actually pinned one of hip

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Speaker 2: hop's first memoirs, The Ice Opinion.

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Speaker 1: He pinned classics like you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Six in the Morning, Colors, New Jack, Hustler Og,

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Speaker 2: Original Gangster. He's collaborated with everyone from Quincy Jones to

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Speaker 2: Tupac to Cube to Quell, Keith the Slayer, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I will basically say that our Guest Today is one

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Speaker 2: of the first stars of our culture to really parlay

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Speaker 2: and pivot from just hip hop to other venues of expression,

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Speaker 2: be it film, television. His metal band body count one

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Speaker 2: of the first hip hop legends to be a dominant

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Speaker 2: voice on social media, and he's using that same wisdom

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Speaker 2: as that he kicks on Twitter to offer his daily game.

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Speaker 2: Definitely worth a following. I mean you should be following

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Speaker 2: if you're not. But basically, what can I say? We

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Speaker 2: have the legendary Ice Tea on Quest Love Supreme today, Sir, Wow, Wow.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. Thank you man, thank you think come on.

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Speaker 1: Dog, you know you legend done y'.

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Speaker 2: Also, it doesn't age you like drank for the family

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Speaker 2: youth did Ice team Man.

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Speaker 3: I like to always preface it with living legend, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, as you should. A lot of

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Speaker 3: times people don't get they flowers till it's a rap,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So I'm still here. But

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Speaker 3: it's funny though, Quest I'm right now. I'm working on

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Speaker 3: a project that's a compilation of all my story rhymes.

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Speaker 3: You know, I like to tell stories, and the title

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Speaker 3: of it is the Legend of Iced Tea Crime Stories,

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Speaker 3: because legend is part fiction, you know. Legend is like

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Speaker 3: a tale, you know. So it was a night I

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Speaker 3: was in the club and I got in a fight

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Speaker 3: and I knocked the guy out, but the legend says

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Speaker 3: Now you become legendary. You got to live up to

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Speaker 3: some of these legends that aren't really the truth. But

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Speaker 3: I kind of let people believe what they want to believe,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So that's why we called

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Speaker 3: the record the Legend Device Team. But thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, you know, I didn't know

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Speaker 2: whether or not to. I'm certain that this ain't the

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Speaker 2: first time that you've heard, especially based on your name,

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Speaker 2: that cats might call you the Iceberg Slim of hip hop.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of that is also just due

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Speaker 2: to the fact that not on Ryan Page, but I

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Speaker 2: think on Power, I remember you close inside too with

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Speaker 3: Now, the true story is I'm named after Iceberg, Slim,

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Speaker 3: and I named myself after Iceberg Slim. When I was

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Speaker 3: I ended up migrating from the gangsters to them, and

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Speaker 3: and the Fela and all that. But these cats would

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Speaker 3: and Donald Going books. You feel me. So I wanted

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Speaker 3: old pimp to them. I mean, I could quote you

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Speaker 3: want to hear some Iceberg Slim? You want to hear? Yes?

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Speaker 3: I needed three way winch that'll play Jasper and extension,

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Speaker 3: take them around the horn. No Gene or John. This

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Speaker 3: she'll still knots out of knees and fidos fleas. This

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Speaker 3: bitch is still out many a town. Now. I heard

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Speaker 3: That is ruining the name of one hell of a

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Speaker 1: I see you on the next question of supreme leaders. Joke.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying that at the eleventh grade to girls, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not telling them it's iceberg slim. They like this,

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Speaker 3: who is this flyer?

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Speaker 4: And you don't even know what the fuck you're saying

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Speaker 3: This sounds fly right. That thing you said is how

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Speaker 3: can I be down with this ass motherfucker? So so

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Speaker 3: ice Berg ice tea is short for Iceberg tea. Quest

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Speaker 3: you're right, and my boys call me Berg, my boys

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Speaker 3: call me Burg. So now the song you heard was

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Speaker 3: my homage to Hustlers Convention. Remember that album they had

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Speaker 3: out called yeah, like was it Lightning Rod? And yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So I was in that vein. But really, honestly, truthfully

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Speaker 3: quests all my music is Iceberg slim like, my music

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Speaker 3: is more like literature that it was not meant to

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Speaker 3: dance to. It's like, you know, straight up nigga or

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Speaker 3: some of y'all niggas's bitches too, or I'm the Pusher

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Speaker 3: high Rollers. It's definitions of certain things. So that was

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Speaker 3: my way of writing books, was writing music, And I

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Speaker 1: I see, I see, you're right on the plank.

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Speaker 2: So for a lot of our listeners that don't know

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know, where in Jersey did you live?

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Speaker 3: I was born in Newark, New Jersey. I lost my

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm from I'm from the East Coast, born

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Speaker 4: Just for perspective, I'm just curious, where are your people's from, Like,

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Speaker 4: where was your mama's peoples from?

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Speaker 5: Where was your daddy's people from.

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Speaker 3: My mother was a Creole from New Orleans, and she

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Speaker 3: So they were considered an interracial marriage to a lot

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Speaker 3: people know that the history of Creole is black and French.

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Speaker 2: I guess fish out of water situation wasn't for you

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Speaker 3: How old are you in his seventh grade.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like it first because you know, when you

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Speaker 3: dealt I have no living relatives, no sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, cousins.

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Speaker 3: I've been ice. Tea's been on his own ever since. Dola.

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Speaker 1: Wow, seriously, yeah, shit man.

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Speaker 4: Not even a mentor, like who was your first male

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Speaker 5: In that way?

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Speaker 3: Just friends, you know, friends. I have one friend that

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Speaker 3: That's how kids get involved in gangs. Gangs are like

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Speaker 3: surrogate families, you know, masculinity. Like, honestly, when I got

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Speaker 3: the Rolling sixties, you're from the eighties, you're in the

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Speaker 3: eight trays in La So I was living in a

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Speaker 3: nicer area in View Park. So when I went to Crenshaw,

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Speaker 3: So I knew all the shot callers. But I you know, honestly,

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Speaker 3: being around my homeboys, that was the first time I

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Speaker 3: ever heard somebody tell me they loved me, you know,

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Speaker 3: since my parents passed. You know, we love. And the

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Speaker 3: thing of it is is the gangs to love is

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Speaker 5: Is that what it was?

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Speaker 3: But I didn't know. I didn't know they could get pregnant.

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Speaker 1: What was that like?

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Speaker 3: Just back up off me, just back up off me

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Speaker 3: If you don't want to be there, it ain't gonna work.

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Speaker 3: If you want to be there, it's gonna work. You

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Speaker 3: I made the decision to do it, so I was

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Speaker 3: But now they take the gang the street shit out

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Speaker 5: Respect off the jump. Then in a way, well.

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Speaker 3: You know, fuck to being the boss, the boss fucked that.

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Speaker 4: It's brave to say that shit because I ain't mad

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Speaker 5: But it's brave to say it.

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Speaker 4: But that you not that you don't want to be

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Speaker 5: Like everybody, some people will feel like, well, what you mean?

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Speaker 5: I see like you and g.

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Speaker 4: You should be the boss at the top of everything

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Speaker 4: that you know producing.

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Speaker 5: But I see what you're saying, and.

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Speaker 3: Those people have never been the boss. See a lot

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Speaker 4: There, so, so Jennifer Lewis taught us that lesson. She

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Speaker 5: Like, I don't want that. That's not my life. And

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Speaker 3: Listen, if Quest is the boss and I'm as lieutenant,

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Speaker 3: I might need more dangerous than him, you feel me,

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Speaker 3: I was terrified, even like Law and Order. Like when

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Speaker 3: I'm on Law and Order, I have a job. I

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Speaker 3: When I'm on tour, I gotta run all them niggas.

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Speaker 3: I got all this ship I gotta handle. I got

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Speaker 3: I don't want to do it. So at some point

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Speaker 3: I am the boss in certain aspects of my life.

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Speaker 3: Let's put that like that. When we did the Grammys,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I talk about it.

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Speaker 2: When I landed in New York, my tooth fell out

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Speaker 2: Tooth stress, man talk for real, like new teeth for real.

434
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: When I stress out, body parts just go awry.

435
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 3: So now now let's let's since we're doing this now, Quest,

436
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 3: even though you got all the praise, was it.

437
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: Worth we ever talked about this fully? Yet we did too?

438
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: Let's go.

439
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to decide. I'm still trying to decide

440
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 2: if that was a victory or not.

441
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: I'll say I'll say this much.

442
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 3: It was a victory for me. Thank you? I was it?

443
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 4: No?

444
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 5: For real?

445
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: You like one of five acts that literally gave me

446
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: zero headaches? Nothing, No, no, no, It's gonna be worth it,

447
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: I guess I can. I can say that something even

448
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: bigger is gonna happen in August and it's not just

449
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: like a special one. Tell yes, we we already said

450
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 2: that something's going to happen, but something on top of

451
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: that is happening. And now that that's been greenlit, I

452
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: feel that is It's It was way worth losing the

453
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: tooth over and having to lay on an operating table

454
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: for two hours.

455
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I mean, is worth it?

456
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 3: You did? You pulled that shit together like two weeks.

457
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 3: That's the crazy part.

458
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 2: Like now the thing was and you know, they kind

459
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: of hit me in like after Thanksgiving, like this is

460
00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: what we have planned.

461
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: Are you interested? And I was like all right, cool.

462
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: And then I let like three weeks go by Christmas

463
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: or whatever, and I guess after Christmas, I hit them

464
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 2: up like okay, so what's the plan. And they were

465
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: looking at me like yeah, what's the plan. And I'm like, wait,

466
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: I have to put this together. Like I'm just thinking,

467
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: like let me show up and drum and y'all tell

468
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: me who I'm backing. And they were like we were

469
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: kind of hoping you put it together, so you know,

470
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: I gave my wishless and then they looked at me

471
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: back like okay, do you know these people?

472
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: And I was like wait, I got to call them too,

473
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: So that's.

474
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 5: Worse than question of supreme See that ain't right?

475
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: No, I mean you know so pretty like with the

476
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: exception of maybe one of the acts that abandoned.

477
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: Us and Glorilla.

478
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, Like I pretty much just called everyone from

479
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: my telephone and I see, yeah, I pretty much went.

480
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 2: I scrolled down my entire phone book and I I'll

481
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: say that ninety five percent of everyone that you saw

482
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: was me hitting them up, like, yo, you mind doing this?

483
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean the only two people.

484
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: That couldn't do it was Cube and Cuba shooting something

485
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: and Stup was coaching, uh, one of the teams for

486
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl.

487
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 4: So so I see, was the long was it? You

488
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 4: were a loane like representation.

489
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: Me and hello me and too short?

490
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 5: You're too short? Excuse me? So north and South.

491
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: I decided it was wiser because people off the nest,

492
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: like why'd you as big Daddy came, why do you

493
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: ask case one? The thing was we thought it was

494
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: first of all, we only had twelve minutes, and twelve

495
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: minutes goes by like that when it's it's this level

496
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: of ensemble. So we just wanted one representative of each right,

497
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: each territory.

498
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 4: So wait, okay, so a mere so I see you

499
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 4: get the call. A mere calls tell us from please,

500
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: what's you on your mind?

501
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 5: What happens?

502
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: Why are you saying, hey, I can't do it?

503
00:25:59,480 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: Why not?

504
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 5: Why you can't do it?

505
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: Because I'm in law and order and they shoot Mondays

506
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: and super Bowl and Grammys are always on Sundays, so

507
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: I can never go. You know, I got a call

508
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 3: time sometimes, you know, seven am on Monday. So he

509
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: calls and I'm kind of like, I don't know, you know,

510
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: it's the Grammys. I was, I didn't really know the

511
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: magnitude of it, you know. And then he just said,

512
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: he said, ice you don't want to miss this. This

513
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: is going to be legendary. This is gonna be epic.

514
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 3: And then in my brain I thought about it and

515
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: I said, am I going to be the guy that's

516
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 3: sitting home watching this? I had a call to do that,

517
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 3: and people like you lying, motherfucker. Ain't nobody called you?

518
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: You know? So and then I said I knew he

519
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 3: had ice Cube on speed doll. I'm like, you know what,

520
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: I'm not turning this down. This is the Grammys, and

521
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's second to the Super Bowl as

522
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 3: far as people see in live performance. And I said,

523
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 3: I called Law and Order and I told them and

524
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 3: I said, you know, I need to be off on Monday.

525
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: They said, you got the whole week off because you're

526
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: getting the Star next week, and we and we had

527
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 3: this episode. It's off for you. So it just was

528
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: a natural it was. And then then you know, I

529
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: got the track. And when I got there for the rehearsal,

530
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: that's when it dawned on me, because it's like, you're

531
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 3: seeing everybody. You know, I'm seeing method man, I'm seeing

532
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: all my friends. It was it was of me and

533
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: ll cool Ja. Who know, people haven't seen a picture

534
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: of me and him ever.

535
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: I gotta admit that was my one slight worry. I

536
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: was like, wait a minute, because the thing was, by

537
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: the time I got to you again, I went in

538
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: alphabetical order, right, and you're in the middle of the

539
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: alphabet already, you know, with the least the first fifteen

540
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: people I called, their first question was who else going

541
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 2: to be there? And the thing was, is like I

542
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: wanted to undersell it. One I'm very much known for.

543
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: Even my hyperbolic statements are over exaggerated.

544
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: So I kind of wanted to.

545
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: Downplay this a little bit because for a lot of

546
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: the younger generation, like i'll call Tyler the Creator up

547
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: and his first reactions like, man, it sounds corny, you

548
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, so in my experience and

549
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: depending on what generation I'm talking to, right, I figure

550
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: if I just undersell it, it'll be safe.

551
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: And what's funny is.

552
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: For the people that were just like nah, I'm good,

553
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: like that sounds whack. All them like the next week

554
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: were like, yo, man, I wish you would have told

555
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: me the magnitude that this thing.

556
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: Was going to be. And I was like, well, I

557
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: don't know, yeah, like how right right?

558
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: I think just to some generational people, it's you know,

559
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: that's what like my whole thing is like, oh that

560
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: must be nice, Like you could just shrug your shoulders

561
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: like Motown twenty five.

562
00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: Oh I don't need that.

563
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: Me was the gangster rappers, right, you know, because I

564
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: used to we don't get invited to shit, you know.

565
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: So when he said scarface, when he said pe, when

566
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: he said wu tang mefod, when he said too short,

567
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I remember when Prodigy was alive.

568
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: You know, Prodigy is my favorite rapper for mob dB.

569
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: He's like, I used, we don't do red carpets. They

570
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: don't let us in. But see, you got to understand

571
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: the people like myself, Snoop and Q, we take pride

572
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: in being outcasts. We take pride in not being allowed

573
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: into their shit. I remember when Snoop got the was

574
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: doing the Super Bowl. I'm like, you know, they hate

575
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: seeing you up there. He goes, I'm about to crip

576
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: harder than they ever seen, he said, because don't you

577
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: love it the fact? You know, So when you got

578
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: the Outlaws in there and you had he quest had

579
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: too short yelling bitch, you know, I'm like, yeah, you know.

580
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: And it was funny though, because at the sound check

581
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: I was doing, I was just singing all the words

582
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: with the ships and the fucks in it. So right

583
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: before the show I got a little text from whoever

584
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: the piece is Ice, this is gonna be live TV.

585
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: Could you dial it back? I was like, Okay, I

586
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: was just testing the water. I didn't you know, but

587
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: I well, you know what I figured it. You know

588
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: what I said. I said, I'm not gonna curse because

589
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: they're gonna They're gonna bleep it and they're gonna bleep

590
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: it wrong, and it just won't it won't flow, you know.

591
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: So I just changed sucking for nigga, you know, I

592
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 3: just but I was so concerned during that show of

593
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: the queue, see, because it was a tape going right now,

594
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: Scarface is wrapping mind playing tricks on me, and then

595
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: under this thing comes in, dud. If you miss your queue,

596
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: it was gonna be a rap because the crack was

597
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: gonna keep going. You were gonna be offbeat in front

598
00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: of millions of people. I was wedding like this is

599
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: not no, I can't and ic concert. I could suck up.

600
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: I could be we'll bring that bracket, you know, I

601
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: could right, this is gonna this is a fucking train

602
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 3: that's going. They put the things in my ear and

603
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: I never think. I don't think I've been that focused

604
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: in a long time.

605
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: So I had to have a live slate just you know,

606
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: because the thing was that the graphics that we were

607
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: performing like that had to be on automatic time. So

608
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: initially I wasn't going to do a live graphics. I

609
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: was just going to do it like a normal thing,

610
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: like okay, we're banned, we'll just you know, do it

611
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: like normal, But they were like, no, you gotta do

612
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: it to a slate so that way, when the lights

613
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: and all that stuff change, it'll be automatically and whatnot.

614
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: So how did you guys, did you know who was

615
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: going to pull out at the last minute?

616
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: Yo?

617
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: Yo, all right, So look when Bad Bunny was opening

618
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: the show, we were on in seventy five minutes, and

619
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: what wound up happening was when I got worried that

620
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: one of our acts definitely had left the building and

621
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: went back to his crib in Calabasas. Then it took

622
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: us thirty seven minutes. Because the thing is the show's

623
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: happening live, so it's not like the light guy can

624
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: look at me and say, okay, so what are we

625
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: gonna do? Like he still has to do the show.

626
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: So basically, we're using musical performances and commercials to go

627
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: to nine different people. You got to tell the person

628
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: that's doing explosions, the person that's doing the lights, the

629
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: person that's doing the choreography. You now got explained to

630
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: the twenty dancers who were there for that one thirty

631
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: eight second segment that we don't need your services anymore.

632
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: So it took about thirty seven minutes for our first

633
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: dropout to happen. Now, when the second dropout happened, it

634
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: was twelve minutes left before showtime, and the second dropout

635
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: was our top person, our headliner, who wanted more explosions,

636
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: more dancers, more smoke, more like. Each each request was

637
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: like it was almost like a negotiating arms or whatever like.

638
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: And when they left at the twelve minute mark, when

639
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: our headliner had totally dropped out, I yo, man, I

640
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: just I thought it was a rap. I thought, man, great,

641
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: you always wanted to trend on Twitter and now you

642
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: destroyed hip hop and you broke it. So I had

643
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: no clue that Uzzivert got my message to just bum

644
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: rust the stage when he heard his song. I literally

645
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: didn't knowase Like I said a text, Yo, you're gonna

646
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: hear your instrumental bum rust the stage when you hear

647
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: that shit, and my phone went dead, So I thought

648
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: he didn't get that message.

649
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: So I'm fucked.

650
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: And it wasn't until I got off stage, because even

651
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: when all of y'all were on stage at the end,

652
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: it took the roots to explain to me in the

653
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: dressing room that little UZI vert came out.

654
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: Came out. I didn't know that until I was changing

655
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: my clothes backstage.

656
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: So that's why I can't take credit like, oh, it

657
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: was a victory because even when off stage, I was like,

658
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: I explained this point. You remember how when Prince stormed

659
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: off stage on Purple Rain because he thought nobody was filled, right,

660
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: that was me. I was like, oh, man, I destroyed

661
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 2: shit fuck And everyone's like, what are you talking about.

662
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: We're turning on Twitter right now.

663
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, Hey, look, it's even more it's even

664
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: more important that you were able to pull it off

665
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: with all that. That's like you had people booby trapping you,

666
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: bailing out at the last minute of a live show man,

667
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 3: and uh, you.

668
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: Know what I love though I don't think anybody missed him.

669
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 5: No, we did not, We did not.

670
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: It's still came off.

671
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: It came off.

672
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 4: And let me ask you all this because I talked

673
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 4: to Jazzy Jeff after after this, and he said, you know,

674
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 4: it was a moment where we all knew that we

675
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 4: were there. We've never been invited and we won't be

676
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: invited back.

677
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, there won't be a fifty first exactly.

678
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 4: And you said, but we were there for hip hop,

679
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: like did you feel that too icy?

680
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: Like something mean, I've been going to the Grammys. I

681
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: want to Grammy for rap back in the day with

682
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: Quincy Jones back on the block to block me, Mail

683
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: CuMo D and Kane, and we kind of felt Quincy

684
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: snuck us in the back door the Grammys. You know

685
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It's like they about a wrap award,

686
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 3: but it's really Quincy Jones. So we were like, Okay,

687
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: I got it. I broke it in a video when

688
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: I was on my iced T bullshit, and then I

689
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: said I missed it and I got another one replace it.

690
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: So I do have one, but one of my videos

691
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: like the.

692
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: Girl, they replaced them because they're telling me, nope, yeah,

693
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: this iss crazy glued.

694
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: There's a charge. You can get one. It's like a

695
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: gold record. If they know that you're you got it,

696
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: you can get it in place. But I also went

697
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: to China and got some some maid to give out,

698
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: like with body Count one they only give out for

699
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: the number of people in the group, but there's so

700
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: many people involved. I got some replicas made to give

701
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: to my boys and my crew. So I got that.

702
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: Then a couple of years ago, I was nominated body Count.

703
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: That was weird because we you know, they have another

704
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: they have another Grammy ceremony that comes on before the

705
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: Grammar the pre so we performed in that. I got

706
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: nominated for Black Hoodie and we performed. After that, they

707
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: take us backstage and they got the cameras on it.

708
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: So I'm like, we won this, motherfucker, we won this.

709
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: Mother We're standing there and they go Masterdon and they won.

710
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: And the dude took the camera and wrapped that shit

711
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: up and dipped and left it. And then when we

712
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: got to our dressing room it was locked. It was

713
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: like they left for dead. I was like, damn. So

714
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: then the next year when we got we won for

715
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: Best Metal Performance. I was sitting right here because we

716
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: did it over the internet, right, so I might beat on.

717
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: I probably will be the only person ever to get

718
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: a rap and a medal Grammy. That's what's up categories.

719
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: But you know this is awards. Somebody explained your award.

720
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 3: This is awards, Like, this is how motherfuckers are about awards.

721
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: Fuck the awards, Fuck the Grammy. Man. Fuck I'm nominated, right,

722
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: That's how people are. I mean, I don't give a

723
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: fuck about that bullshit. What So that's how people are

724
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 3: nobody really Yeah, but once you get nominated, you want

725
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: to win that ship. You're like, fuck this every time.

726
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: Okay. So since you're in LA before the ding.

727
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: Of of what we know is hip hop, Like, how

728
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: did that culture reach you out there?

729
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: Like what it.

730
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: Reached me in the army?

731
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: Oh?

732
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: Because I'm in the army and it's cats from where

733
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: are you? I'm in Hawaii. I'm in twenty fifth Infantry.

734
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: So the cats in my unit were from New York

735
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: and from all over Florida. You know, it's a mismatch

736
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 3: of people from the United States. And I was hip

737
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: to first generation hip hop, which is what I call

738
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: unrecorded like tape hip hop before they made records. So

739
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 3: they're playing me all this, you know, the beatbox records

740
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff, and hip hop is

741
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: intoxicating you hear it. You're like, that shit is dope,

742
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: and you know, I'm saying iceberg slim. I already think

743
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 3: I know how to rhyme, you know what I'm saying,

744
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I never heard it done over beat,

745
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: you know. And then they were trying to break dance

746
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 3: and stuff at and I was just like, this shit

747
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: is dope as hell. And then I saw the New

748
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 3: York City Breakers on a show called That's Incredible, and

749
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, this is dope, you know. So

750
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: by the time I came back to LA, LA had

751
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: a techno sound. LA was Egyptian lover in them No

752
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: and Uncle Bobby, Jimmy and the critters. I used to

753
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: call it aerobic music, right, you know, and that's what

754
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: LA was banging off of. And I was just the

755
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: first person out there to try to rap like New

756
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: York rappers, like rapping over breakbeats. Evie and Henng from

757
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: New York City spend masters with my DJs, and we

758
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: used to take records before they had instrumental records and

759
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: actually catch the brakes, and I taught myself how to rap.

760
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: I came home from the military with the intention to

761
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: be a DJ because Uncle Jams and then were making

762
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 3: a lot of money throwing parties for between you know,

763
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: sixteen under twenty one Big Bi they doing an LA

764
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 3: Sports Arena. The whole Uncle Jim's concept was they were

765
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: in LA, well anywhere you can't get in the club

766
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: till you're twenty one. But there's a whole gang of

767
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: kids that want to go out, you know. So they

768
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: started throwing parties and they basically created the first like rage.

769
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: They with these long extended parties and uh, they were

770
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 3: able to do the La Sports Arena multiple times with

771
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: no acts, no acts, So you're talking about five thousand

772
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: kids dancing and in the entire stadium on the floor

773
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: of the stadium.

774
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: Okay, on the floor. Okay.

775
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: I'll never forget. Egypt had a drum machine at eight

776
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: oh eight, and I'll never ever forget it, you know,

777
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: because we hadn't seen drum machines. Right at a moment

778
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: where they're like they put the drum machine on and

779
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 3: they mixed it in and they go Uncle Jim's Army

780
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: was about to go live, and they played the drum

781
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: machine and he would take the records and hold the

782
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 3: records in the air so you could see he wasn't

783
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: playing any records, and the crowd kept dancing, and it

784
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: was a moment like yo, like yo, this is live

785
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: ship up here saying they were changing the beat. And

786
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: I was the first one they would let rap, you know,

787
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 3: they would let me wrap in front of that crowd.

788
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: And stuff, and yeah, that was how I got I

789
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: ended up in this club called the Radio. The Radio was, well,

790
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: see that's why you got me here. I'm gonna give

791
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: you the drill. Thank you. The club was called the Radio.

792
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: It became the Radio Tron when they decided to make

793
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 3: the movie and they didn't want to pay the guys

794
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: who started the club, so they just flipped the name

795
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: and stole the name. But the real club was the

796
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: Radio Club, and it was owned by a couple of

797
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 3: guys that were like graffiti artists by way in New York,

798
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: but they were Europeans. One was Russian, and they they

799
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: had Malcolm McLaren there. People it was like trendy white kids.

800
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: Adam Ant would be up in the Motherfucker And it

801
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 3: was in MacArthur Park And I actually put Madonna on

802
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: stage in that club because I went there. They found

803
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: out I had a record out I went there. I

804
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: became kind of like the stage manager, and if you

805
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 3: wanted to wrap, you had to wrap to me downstairs,

806
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: and then I go up and do the introduction. Okay,

807
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: quest Love just got here as helicopter just land in

808
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: the parking lot. You better be good, nigga, and then

809
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: and here it goes and pown and you would just

810
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: be on stage getting it off. So they bring this

811
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: girl in, they go, her name's Madonna, and I took

812
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: her downstairs and she had this record called Physical Attraction.

813
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, I never heard of you, you know, but

814
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: you got a record. And I let her perform and

815
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: she performing during the show, she was touching me like

816
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: use me as a prop. And I had a black girlfriend.

817
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: Oh that did not go well that night.

818
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: And this before y'all were label mates.

819
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Madonna had just came out. She was with

820
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: Jellybean Benitas back in the day. Yes, and uh, you know,

821
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 3: so that's the history. So that's where you know, the

822
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: radio was where we were performing. And then the people

823
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: came in. They saw the scene. They go, you'll be

824
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 3: the rapper. You guys will be the dancers. And Glove

825
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: was the DJ. You know the history the glove. Glove

826
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: was carrying the equipment into the place. And the owner

827
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: of the clubs like we needed DJ and gloves, like

828
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: I could DJ. They go, you got a DJ name,

829
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: he goes Nah, and the nigga had on gloves. You

830
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: could be clubs and they'll caught on gloves and now

831
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: he was the house DJ at the Radio, but when

832
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: it came out on the movie, it became the Radio Tron.

833
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: But the real name of the club was the Radio.

834
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: All right, So can you talk about the coldest rap?

835
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: One of our best episodes ever was with Jimmy Jam

836
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: and he explained how for the two people that have

837
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: not heard the six hour Jimmy Jam episode, you know

838
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: Jam basically the anthology, Yeah, theology of tell me jim

839
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: you know. He explained that, you know, after they left

840
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: Prince that they were basically worked for hiring musicians. But

841
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: I mean at the time, it wasn't like you went

842
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: and said, oh, let me get those two dudes from

843
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: the time to do a track for me. You were

844
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: just buying tracks from anyone or nah nah.

845
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: So I used to get my hair done at this

846
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: spot called Good Fred right just when I had to

847
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: perm my shit was more wavy than the ships in

848
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: the Navy. You know what I'm saying. I had to

849
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 3: out match the girls. You know what I'm saying, That's

850
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 3: what a player has to do. You gotta look better

851
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: than these chicks. So they understand, they got they got

852
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: to get together to get what you dig it so

853
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: my hair to get together. And I would say these

854
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: rhymes right my walking around rhymes like you know, I'm

855
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 3: the pimp to play at the Woman Layer, the Holy Doula,

856
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 3: the whole house ruler. I just pimp poors and slam

857
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: Cadillac doors. So I'm saying this. And this guy named

858
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: Willie Strong, who owned VIP Records, the very famous record

859
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: store that Snoop is standing on and in his first

860
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: U you know, a Boogog video, they came to me

861
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: and they said, you want to make a record, and

862
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: it was just like a run, you know. They threw

863
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: me inside the Cadillac and the chauffeur drove off and

864
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 3: he never came back. So they it took me from

865
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 3: the the beauty parlor, the salon to a studio and

866
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: there was they had this track with Jimmy jam and

867
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: Terry Lewis. They owned the track and it was some

868
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: chicks singing on it and they cleared it. And they say,

869
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: rap rappers that haven't made records have a million rhymes.

870
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: They're ready to go. You know what I'm saying. You

871
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: never rule one. If you're a well known rapper, never

872
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: battle an unsigned rapper. I had a bunch of rhymes, right,

873
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 3: So I went in there and they were like, say

874
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: a rhyme, So I had to write a hook. I

875
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: knew I needed a hook, so I wrote, you know,

876
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm a player, That's all I know. In the summer day,

877
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: I play in the snow meaning cocaine from the wound

878
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: to the tomb. I run my game because I'm cold

879
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: as ice, and I show no shame. So that's all

880
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 3: I That's all I needed. And once I did that,

881
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: I just went in there. You know, the ladies say

882
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: that I'm heaven sent because I got more money than

883
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: the US meant. I ride ragtop rolls, rocks on my hand, Mysarati's, Mercedes,

884
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: Benz ocean Liners, private jets, bel Air Bookies placed my bets.

885
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: I own islands off the coast of France, and I

886
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: wear design of shirts and pants. Honey. When I was

887
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: brought into this world, my mama never asked if I

888
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: was a boy or a girl. Because I rolled over

889
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: to it and gave her a kisses. She said, Yo, Daddy,

890
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 3: don't rock me like this, all right, So this is

891
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: the code. So I say this shit right off the

892
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: head off the dome, and that's my first record on

893
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: Saturn Records, produced by Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis, and

894
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 3: I made two hundred dollars. Wow.

895
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: So how was that parlay into when we first met

896
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: you nationally with Breaking?

897
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: Well, that was my first experience with records. And when

898
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: you want to make a record, you want to make

899
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: a record more than get paid. You just want to

900
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 3: make a record. So I made that record. That records

901
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: what led me to the radio tron see me saying

902
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: they they heard I had a record, and they booked

903
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: me to come and and and I was at the

904
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: radio tron when the movie Breaking came in. When the

905
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 3: movie Breaking came in, they said, we said, can we

906
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: make a song for the album? Me and Glove made Reckless,

907
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: which Eminem says the first rap record he ever heard.

908
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: And that was like, you know, reckless when platinum?

909
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: Right.

910
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: So I had got a bag, but I hadn't. I

911
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 3: didn't have a record deal or anything. And then I

912
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 3: was connected to this other DJ in La called Unknown

913
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 3: and he we made.

914
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: It was he Unknown from Cotton was wanted down with them?

915
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, he had a record a label called Techno

916
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: Hop and Compass. Most Wanted was on there and Uh.

917
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 3: He was like, come on, Ice to make a record

918
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: for me. Fuck that, you know, And I said, okay,

919
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: So I made a record call you Don't Quit. And

920
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: then the second one was Dog and a Wax with

921
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: six in the Morning on the B side. And as

922
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 3: Chuck D said, when that, yeah, my identity was was connected.

923
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean, but at the time, were you conscious of like, Okay,

924
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: I've been party rocking, now how can I pivot to

925
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 2: reality rhymes?

926
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: Like what was your mind? Stated with that?

927
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 3: I was trying to be a rapper. I was rapping

928
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: like meling them. You know, I'm drinking, I'm wearing spikes

929
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 3: and shit. You know, I thought, you know, this is

930
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: what you gotta do, and I'm trying to get in.

931
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 3: You know, there's nobody in LA to look at.

932
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, but six in the Wrner was pretty serious

933
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: at the time. So but that came.

934
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: From Schoolly D. Thank you. You know what, I'm always

935
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: telling you the truth because my boys told me, they said,

936
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 3: I he's never lie because motherfuckers ain't going don't believe

937
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: the truth, you understand, So this give them the truth. No,

938
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying these rhymes to my boys. I'm saying that

939
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: gangster shit, you know, strolling through the city middle of

940
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 3: the night, niggas on my left, niggas on my right,

941
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 3: yelling cut cook cup rip to everybody. I see, if

942
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 3: you're bad enough, come fuck with me. So I'm saying

943
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: these kind of rhymes for the gangs, but I didn't.

944
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: I was like, that's negative shit, like people don't want

945
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 3: to hear that. So I'm saying certain reps to entertain

946
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: my friends. And then I'm then I'm saying party rhymes

947
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: for hip hop. You feel me. I know the Iceberg

948
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: slim type shit, but I don't know what translates. So

949
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 3: then I hear PSK and it blew my mind. I

950
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 3: was in Santa Monica and I heard first the track

951
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: came on. The track sounded I never done Angel does,

952
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: but the track sounded like Angel does a bunch of

953
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 3: ye I'm like, And then Schooley came on. PSK.

954
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 7: We making that green people what we say now? At

955
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 7: that time, everyone was yelling on records, who is a

956
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 7: fly nigga? You know, one by one, I'm knocking out he's.

957
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 3: For the way my DJs cut, you know, put my

958
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 3: pistol up against his heads and sucking ass. I was like,

959
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 3: then I researched it. PSK's Park Side Killers. He's repping

960
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 3: a set. It's okay, feel me. That was the green light, Like, oh,

961
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 3: they want to hear this kind of ship I got

962
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: all day, you feel me?

963
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 5: Yeah?

964
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: So we go in and we do six in the

965
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 3: morning and six in the morning. I took the Remember

966
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 3: I remember the Beasi Boys had a record called holding

967
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: Out hit It, yeah, hold it down where the record

968
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: kind of stopped and then took off again. So I

969
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 3: wanted that for six in the morning. So that's where

970
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: like the record, then boom it starts again. So holy

971
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 3: now I hit it was the genesis of that track.

972
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 3: The beat just a basic beat kind of something with

973
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 3: eight away and then I come in on the same

974
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: exact cadence as schooly d PSK. We're making that green

975
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: six in the morning, police Fuel Fresh indeed to squeak

976
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: across the bathroom floor back and that is it was

977
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 3: more graphic and deeper. Now wasn't gonna hit I don't know.

978
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: So I get a call from the Fillmore West in Frisco.

979
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 3: We like you to do a show up here. I'm like, sure,

980
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: you know, boom bam. Five days later they call me back,

981
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: we want you to do a show up here. I said,

982
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: I already booked the show in that same place. They

983
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 3: said that sold out. Well I'm not on LA radio.

984
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 3: But they start playing me on km EL there in

985
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 3: the Bay and was on and then later on you

986
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 3: want to track the movement? Cube did the record? Boys

987
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 3: in the hood are always hard, right, which he's said

988
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: with Six in the Morning Part two. But it's all schooly,

989
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 3: these cadence. It's all schooly, these cadences. So a lot

990
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 3: of times rappers are jack cadences and you won't even

991
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: know the credit. Well, thank you. You know, players love

992
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 3: to give credit. You know what I'm saying. It's like,

993
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: you know, you wouldn't know if I didn't tell you.

994
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 3: Like Colorsrestill get this Colors comes from Mythological by King's Son. Colors.

995
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 3: Listen to King Son when I get ill, it's a

996
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 3: reason because it's duck season, Hunter of the Front, right,

997
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 3: that was That's how myth the mythological mythological rappers. You

998
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: got a lot to learn that record.

999
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: I've not heard that record, Mythological Mythological by King you

1000
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: know King Son, Yes, of course I'm King son.

1001
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: Yes, well, that's how it comes on. When I get ill,

1002
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: it's a reason because it's duck season, Hunter of the Fronter.

1003
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 3: I am a nightmare walk walking talking right, if I'm

1004
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 3: a jungle just a gangst to stalking, so you know,

1005
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 3: you can. I think all of us are influenced by

1006
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 3: other people. And if it's done well, because hip hop

1007
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 3: is all samples and stuff, if it's done well, you'll

1008
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: never know. You'll never know because it's done well. But

1009
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: I always try to give a shout out to the

1010
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: people that inspired those particular songs.

1011
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: You know, I've been friends with Seymour about eleven twelve

1012
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: years now because I'm also in the Rock and Roll

1013
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame committee.

1014
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 3: Seymore signs of genius man.

1015
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: He literally says, you know, and he's had like health

1016
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 2: is used and all that stuff in the past ten years.

1017
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: He's like he is not going six feet underground until

1018
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: he gets you in the rock own Hall of Fame.

1019
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: And literally every year it's in case you don't think

1020
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: like you're even thought of or in line or whatever,

1021
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: but Seymour, like you're always We get two votes each

1022
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: as a committee member on who gets nominated. When I

1023
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: was first there in two thousand and seven to now, like,

1024
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 2: trust me to tell you my Seymour Seigins story. Yeah,

1025
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: tell me Seymour signs. Seymour Stein, the president of Siah Records.

1026
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 3: Who signed it, Talking Heads, Madonna Ministry, Uh, you know

1027
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: Ramones yep. So I have Six in the Morning out

1028
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: and it was getting energy off from the in the

1029
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 3: East coast. Scott lod Rock was playing it and Africa

1030
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 3: Islam was somebody who I met at the radio who

1031
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: was very intrigued with me because the New York rappers

1032
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 3: would come out to LA. I already had to push

1033
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: the jewelry, the money in the girls, and at that

1034
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 3: time nobody had made any money on rap. Niggas hadn't

1035
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: bought cars yet, you know, so they like, why do

1036
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: you want to rap?

1037
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: You know?

1038
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: But what I was doing, the warranty was about to

1039
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 3: be up, all right, So I want to rap. I

1040
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: like rapping, and my friends were going to prison, penitentiary,

1041
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 3: blah blah, getting shot, this, that and the other because

1042
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 3: we was active active. So Islam liked me, like he

1043
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 3: just liked me. And so he's like, they won't play

1044
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 3: your record in New York unless you come to New

1045
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: York because what you're talking, they need to see you're authentic.

1046
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 3: So I came out to one hundred and fifty six

1047
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: and ten in South Bronx, and I was out there,

1048
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: so I met Scotland rock and but by it being

1049
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: African Islam, I met New York from the top down.

1050
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 3: It was like, what was.

1051
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 5: Your look at the time.

1052
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm trying to picture this because like you said,

1053
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 4: I like you had to hair.

1054
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 5: You had to so you went to the Bronx.

1055
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 3: Look, I have fela on and jewelry and a.

1056
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 5: Prim Okay, okay, make sure them.

1057
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: Niggas just thought I looked like a pimp. But I

1058
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 3: was rapping my West Coast shit. You know, a player

1059
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: plays the whole bubble, from the pineapple to the big Apple,

1060
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 3: from the snowflakes to the earthquakes. You understand me. Wherever

1061
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: I touched down, I'm gonna make it my town. So

1062
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 3: I had the chrism and the gift the gap that

1063
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: all the New York niggas liked me. I was different,

1064
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: but they liked me. They knew I wasn't no bitch,

1065
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 3: so they liked me. So is is by being a boss,

1066
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 3: I meet Red Alert, Chuck, Chill Out, Scottland Rock, I

1067
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 3: meet all the bosses I didn't, so I'm hanging out.

1068
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: There was a guy named Ralph Cooper Junior. You know

1069
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 3: that is quest do not know? Raoper was the one

1070
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 3: of the Apollo cats that like Rand Apollo from back

1071
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 3: to his son. Okay, So Ralph Cooper Junior was like

1072
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: trying to be an agent and he connected me and

1073
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: Mellie Mel and we did a record on Spring Records.

1074
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: And I was in the studio with Melly Mel and

1075
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 3: Caz like these idols of mine and uh he took

1076
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: a compilation and to see Seymour Stein okay with Melly Mel, Grandmaster,

1077
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 3: Kaz Donald d from the Bee Boys that had the

1078
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 3: song stick Up Kids and Girls, myself and a kid

1079
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 3: named Bronx Style Bob. Oh wow, this was the compilation.

1080
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: Kaz was still connected to. Kaz had a thing with

1081
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: Tough City a deal, Mel had something with sugar Hill,

1082
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 3: Donald had something with entertainment. I was free and Bob

1083
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 3: had never made a record, Okay, So Seymour just said

1084
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 3: I'll take ice tea. And he wasn't hip hop enough

1085
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 3: to know that you couldn't rap if few from the

1086
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 3: West Coast. He was his ignorance was like, fuck it,

1087
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: I'll take ice tea. I'll never forget me. And Islam

1088
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 3: went up to Sire Records to meet with him, and

1089
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 3: Seymour was dancing around in his socks and looking me

1090
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: in the eyes and said, you have such beautiful eyes.

1091
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh shit, this is that part

1092
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: where they want me using day shit. And Islam was like,

1093
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 3: stay down, he's gonna sign the check. Stay down, just

1094
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: hold you down. So then he said, you sound like

1095
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 3: Bob Dylan, and I knew Bob Dylan was a subterranean

1096
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: homesick blues He's rapping on that. I'm like okay. And

1097
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: then Seymour said the most genius shit to me. He said,

1098
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: do you understand the music from Trinidad? This stuff they're

1099
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: singing about, the Calypso music. I'm like no, he said,

1100
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 3: there sing about the problems here in the islands. He says,

1101
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: but just because you don't understand it does not make

1102
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 3: it invalid. It just means you don't understand it. And

1103
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: the same way I might underderstand hip hop, but it

1104
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: doesn't make what you're saying any less valid. He says.

1105
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: I don't understand it, but I know you're saying something.

1106
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 3: So he gave me. He gave me forty thousand dollars

1107
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 3: and we made the first album. We went out and

1108
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: bought an SB twelve, a nine O nine and a

1109
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 3: gold chain. What else do you need?

1110
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: Starting hit at one on.

1111
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 3: One, the whole album in secret sound studios, mixed the

1112
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 3: whole album in one night, no automation back in them days.

1113
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 3: And Ryan pays now is platinum, so uh, forty thousand

1114
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 3: dollars budget, and Seymour was just he was smart enough

1115
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: to say he didn't know. I'll never forget. Here's another story.

1116
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: There's a lyric in this record I did called I

1117
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: Love the Ladies where I go, guys grab a girl, girls,

1118
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 3: grab a guy. If God wants a god, please take

1119
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: it outside. So Seymour goes aes, what it? This is?

1120
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 5: Gay man?

1121
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 3: I said, Seymour, I'm not gay bashing, but if you

1122
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: could say you're gay, can I say I'm straight?

1123
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 5: Oh?

1124
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 3: Right? And then I said has your daughter listened to it?

1125
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 3: And she said yeah. I said, what does she say?

1126
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 3: She loves it? And then I go I said, Seymour,

1127
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 3: that tension you feel that might be money, and he said,

1128
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 3: Touchet hung the phone. That that that tension is the money.

1129
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 3: That's the money right there.

1130
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: You know, used marketing to the hilt, and it was like,

1131
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: just based on your album covers alone, we were going

1132
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: to buy your record. You have never ever ever heard

1133
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: a note or anything like that.

1134
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 3: Take it quest this is what the deal was, right.

1135
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: I was never going to get on the radio, right.

1136
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 3: I had already determined that because we would. We decided

1137
01:00:55,600 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 3: we were outlaw music. So me Luke too short, ghetto boys.

1138
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 3: We were cursing, and at that time I refused to

1139
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 3: do a radio edit. That was like selling out to me.

1140
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 3: Fuck that. This is how the shit is now. There

1141
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 3: was a time where you could get people to buy

1142
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 3: records because they had stickers on them, like people wanted

1143
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 3: that forbidden shit, right. So what I did as far

1144
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 3: as marketing does, I hired Glenn Freedman.

1145
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: You know Glenn, Yes, legendary Glen Freeman.

1146
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: Yes, he did LL's cover, he did Runs cover, He

1147
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 3: done bec Boy covers. So I'm like, I need my

1148
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 3: cover to be at the same quality as them, so

1149
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 3: it sits right alongside of them. You gotta have the

1150
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 3: palm tree. You got the Porsche you got the girl,

1151
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 3: you cannot look like New York. Then I had a

1152
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 3: meeting with my team because I was the first rapper

1153
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 3: signed to Warner Brothers, I was there before. I was

1154
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 3: the first rapper signed to a major really, and that

1155
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 3: was before Cole Chilling came over there and uptown over there.

1156
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 3: But I took a map and I said, okay. I

1157
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 3: circled the Tri state area and I said, okay, this

1158
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: is New York. This is Philly. You know, this is Jersey,

1159
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 3: this is hip hop. Right, that's the East coast. But

1160
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 3: dig this, the West Coast starts right here, right on

1161
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 3: the outside of Philly. I just wiped the whole map, right,

1162
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 3: I said, because anybody that's not from that try state

1163
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 3: doesn't give a fuck because they're not from either. So Detroit,

1164
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 3: we want Detroit, we want Chicago West what that? We

1165
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 3: just called everything from Philly the West Coast because the

1166
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: was holding it so tight. We're like, we just take

1167
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 3: the rest of this shit. So and it still stands today.

1168
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 3: If you're not from New York and you're from Oklahoma,

1169
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 3: you don't give a fuck. If you're you don't care

1170
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 3: because you're not either. So Luke had that same science.

1171
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 3: They were down in Florida getting a bunch of money,

1172
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 3: Sir mix a lot got a bunch of money from Washington.

1173
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 3: So New York kind of shot themselves in the foot

1174
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 3: early in the game by being so regional that hip

1175
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 3: hop's gonna grow. Hip hop is a virus. It's gonna

1176
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: grow whether you or not.

1177
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 2: Yo, So okay, with There's one of your legendary shows

1178
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: is still in its complete form on YouTube. There's There's

1179
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: a show of yours live in Vancouver nineteen eighty eight,

1180
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: eighty nine. Yeah, and I was shocked at how heavy,

1181
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: like you know by this time your third album, Just

1182
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: Watch what You Say Freedom of Speech is out and

1183
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: based on your intro loan with the shut Up You're

1184
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: Happy Joan, your show was so high powered it was

1185
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 2: almost like a rock show, even before body Count the

1186
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: body count thing starts. So at what point are you

1187
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: pivoting to that level of energy in your live shows

1188
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: where it's almost like a rock show, even though it

1189
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: is you and evenly like on stage just rocking together.

1190
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 3: You know what it is? Quest? I always thing was like,

1191
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 3: if you're coming to see a show, what are you

1192
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 3: coming to see? So if I'm coming to see the

1193
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 3: fat Boys. I'm coming to see three fat boys. If

1194
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 3: I'm coming to see Curtis Blow, it's Curtis Blow. You know.

1195
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, so what is ic? And my

1196
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 3: thing was, I'm gonna take you into the darkness of

1197
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 3: South central Los Angeles. I'm gonna give you I'm gonna

1198
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: set up this energy, this dark and sinister and stuff.

1199
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: So we had to catch with the best song early

1200
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 3: in the game and all that kind of stuff. The

1201
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 3: metal influence was just darkness to me. You know. We

1202
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 3: tried not to do happy records, even though we did shit,

1203
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 3: you know, let's get butt naked and fucking stuff like

1204
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 3: that was always an intention to keep it still to today.

1205
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 3: Like Chuck will say, Ice is one of the most

1206
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 3: theatrical rappers because I like to bring everything down and

1207
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 3: just put a spotlight on me and just let let

1208
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 3: me take you there on my these these adventures like

1209
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 3: a midnight you know. But that was just a choice

1210
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 3: because Caine's dancing, right, I ain't got no motherfucking dances,

1211
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Dougie Fresh, because our first

1212
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 3: tour we went out on, we went out on a

1213
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 3: dope Jam Tour. It was us KRS one A Boogie

1214
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 3: Down Productions, Uh Kumode, Dougie Fresh, Eric being Rock Kim

1215
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 3: with somebody Obizmarck and we're to open and act. So

1216
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 3: how do you I'm from the area of Request where

1217
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 3: you gotta be different, like you can't be like everybody else.

1218
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 3: So we had a police car out there and we're

1219
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 3: throwing money before making rain. We had cell phones, big

1220
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 3: old big phones, and we were giving you that energy.

1221
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 3: So I just didn't want to be the guy that

1222
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 3: comes out on the stage and it's, you know, looking

1223
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: cool and trying to wrap. I want to set a tone,

1224
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 3: and that's what that was all about. It still is

1225
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 3: when you go see Ice t show.

1226
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: All Right, this is the question I always wanted to

1227
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 2: know and have answered, and I can't believe it's taking

1228
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: me this long to answered. Okay, I do not know

1229
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: the history of the story, So break it down like

1230
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: I'm in kindergarten.

1231
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: What was now?

1232
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 2: As we talked about earlier with the Grammy thing, my

1233
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 2: one concern was, are you in LLLL going to be

1234
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 2: cool with each other? Because I don't know if you

1235
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 2: guys amended it or made up or whatever. Can you

1236
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: please tell me what the genesis of the beef between

1237
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 2: you two, because you know, when I heard pushing man

1238
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: and simple you push a man rejected ll I was like, whoa,

1239
01:06:58,920 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: what was that about?

1240
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 3: It's simple all right? I started it, and you know

1241
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 3: ll LL was I'm the baddest, I'm the greatest, I'm this,

1242
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 3: I'm that okay. Llll was actually out before me, so

1243
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 3: he was like the eminem or he was the dude

1244
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 3: you gotta get. I'm coming out of LA. I got

1245
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 3: the whole West Coast on my back. I don't got

1246
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 3: the crips and the bloods. I got the Crypts and

1247
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 3: the Bloods and Bay Area everybody on my back. Ice Tea.

1248
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 3: It's just what it is. You got. I gotta take

1249
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 3: off on this nigga. I gotta let him know, like

1250
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 3: you might, thank you the best fuck that you know.

1251
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 3: And that's just part of the culture. That's just what

1252
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 3: it is, you know, Because I can't come out from

1253
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 3: LA and say about a ll cool J right now,

1254
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 3: not when I'm trying to come out like she was

1255
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 3: trying to be in a boss. I'm yo, you gotta

1256
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 3: set it with this nigga like so I set it

1257
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 3: off right, and he came back. He got at me

1258
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 3: on the break of dawn and I was gonna reply.

1259
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 3: I had a record called Open Contract and Bam bothering

1260
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 3: them stepped in because l was trying to be down

1261
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 3: with Zulus. There was a legendary meet up with me

1262
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 3: and him at a Flavored Flave party and we squashed

1263
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 3: it before it got hectic, you know, but we were

1264
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 3: just the date. It was one of those things. He

1265
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 3: was battling Kumo d he was battling a bunch of

1266
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 3: motherfucker yes, yes, but it was me. I started it,

1267
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 3: and I did it. I did it as an act

1268
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 3: of war, like I did it because it was time

1269
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 3: for Ice Tea to step up and say fuck you,

1270
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 3: you know now.

1271
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 1: So it was business, not personal.

1272
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. L cool J. Yeah, it's business. But

1273
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 3: it's like it's kind of like that's what hip hop was,

1274
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 3: you know, like you know, you you challenged the nigga

1275
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 3: whoever is the boss at the time, and he was

1276
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 3: the boss and I'm never at no point was it.

1277
01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: Like, yo, let me be down with this dude.

1278
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 3: Like, no, I'm from la I'm from the I'm from Gangland,

1279
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 3: you know what. I'm saying we don't get down like that.

1280
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 3: We we go we take You know, you gotta set

1281
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 3: it like that's that's that's what my coast expected me

1282
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 3: to do.

1283
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 5: Yet I'll handle it before it got physical too, though,

1284
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 5: right that.

1285
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 3: Wasn't a days nobody was getting shot. This is pride

1286
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 3: and all that. This is just rap shit. You know.

1287
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 4: I'm just letting the record show because some people don't

1288
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 4: even know that there was a word.

1289
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 3: I don't think we didn't threaten to tell it. Tell

1290
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 3: ll nigga you can't come to La. We we was

1291
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 3: on the bullshit, but it got squashed early. And so

1292
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 3: what me and him agreed to do was not necessarily apologized,

1293
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 3: but just not talk about it. It okay. So we

1294
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 3: never talked about it, and that was it. And I

1295
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 3: never held anything against ll But the crazy part of

1296
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 3: the story quest me and LLL bumped into each other

1297
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 3: twenty five years later in Monte Carlo. Of course, we

1298
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 3: were at we were at a television a convention, and

1299
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 3: I walked up to L and extended my hand and said, man,

1300
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 3: me and you have never talked dotty dotty do I'm

1301
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 3: want to let you know, like you said, wasn't personal.

1302
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 3: It was only business. You know, I had to come

1303
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 3: at you, man, you was the guy to come at

1304
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 3: and he was like Ice, it was a culture and

1305
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 3: that was it. And then he called me up. He said, Ice,

1306
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 3: I need you to help me out on Rock the

1307
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 3: Bells radio. And since then me and him have podcasts

1308
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 3: together and all that. You know, it's like his rock

1309
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 3: sand Chante is still mad. You know. It's like right

1310
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 3: part of the game back.

1311
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: Then, in your prominence and in your rise as you're

1312
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 2: making these records for people that are watching you, like

1313
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: is art imitating life? Because I know that once you

1314
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 2: rise up in stature, then.

1315
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: Damn near the whole West Coast is willing to ride

1316
01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: for you.

1317
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 2: Now, I can't imagine that everyone is wishing you well,

1318
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: wishing you good luck or whatever. Like again, you said

1319
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 2: that you're a reluctant leader, So how do you know

1320
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 2: who to weed out, like who's good for the organization

1321
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: and who to weed out, who to avoid, who's going

1322
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 2: to kill the money, who's.

1323
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: Going to drop the bag on you?

1324
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: Like, how are you navigating in terms of knowing which

1325
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 2: right team to have on your side in terms of

1326
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: stopping your bag so to speak? By having the wrong

1327
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: people associated with you.

1328
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 3: Now, God, remember I got put on by Zulu nation, right,

1329
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 3: so I would I admired the Zulu nation, how they

1330
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,799
Speaker 3: had tried called quests and busting all these cats together

1331
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 3: and they were all going in the same direction. I

1332
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 3: really admired that whole Zulu thing. So I went to

1333
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 3: back to La. Now I studied gangstas, right, so I

1334
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 3: will reading up on Lucky Luciano and mar Lansky and

1335
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 3: all these cats, and Lucky Licio created this thing called

1336
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 3: the Commission, which kept the five families from killing each

1337
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 3: other because they created sit downs. So I created something

1338
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 3: in La called the syndicate, the rhyme syndicate, which was

1339
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 3: a group of groups with a common goal with no boss.

1340
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 3: So Cypress Hill that's a crew, DJ Aladdin and dub

1341
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 3: C low Profile, that's a crew. So all these different groups, everlast,

1342
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 3: that's a group. Each one of these cats had a

1343
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 3: group of people, and we made an agreement before we

1344
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 3: would beef, we would sit down and talk. And that's

1345
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 3: why you've never heard of a West Coast beef ever,

1346
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 3: because anybody that wasn't syndicate was either nw A or

1347
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 3: Delicious Vinyl, which was just Tone Low and Young MC.

1348
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 3: It was kind of like Syndicate too a little bit.

1349
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 3: Now nw A had a beef, but that was a

1350
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 3: family feud and everyone had to step back because it was.

1351
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: A family's blood you got.

1352
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 3: But the Syndicate is still alive. And King T was

1353
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 3: part of it to the alcoholics, because I created something

1354
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 3: that said I'm not in charge each one of you gang.

1355
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 3: Each one of you cells are separate, but together we're powerful.

1356
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 3: And that's what I did. I created an organization. People

1357
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 3: say you created your own gang. I did, and inside

1358
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 3: of it there was no gang bang. So if you

1359
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 3: were Syndicate, you no longer as crippled blood. When we're

1360
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 3: in the studio, we're all part of the same shit.

1361
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 3: And I just taught them all like, look, man, we

1362
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 3: all going in the same direction, and ain't no reason

1363
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 3: to be hating on somebody unless you're a bitch. So

1364
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 3: all of us should help each other. And that's how

1365
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 3: the producers start to getting waved and all the different

1366
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and Dre and them understood, and it

1367
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 3: was just love. I got a good sense of you

1368
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 3: know who's around me and shit like that. But you

1369
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 3: got to keep that your whole life got to keep remembering.

1370
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 3: I'm an orphan, so I'm hyper sensitive to everything that's

1371
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 3: going on around me. I'm hyper sensitive.

1372
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 2: So but as an orphan, did you feel like the obligatory?

1373
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: All right, I gotta take you all with me. I

1374
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: got to take care of all of you.

1375
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 3: Or early I did, Early I did when I first

1376
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 3: got got some bread, legit bread. I never felt that

1377
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 3: way with illegal money, you know, with illegal money, nigga,

1378
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 3: I got this is mine like nigga, like you know.

1379
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 3: I never felt charitable or any of that shit, you know,

1380
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 3: because I'm taking pen every tensory chances for this. But

1381
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 3: when I start getting legit money. The first time I

1382
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 3: got it, I couldn't hold food down. I would actually

1383
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 3: throw my food back up because I and I went

1384
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: to a gastrologist and he said they thought I had

1385
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 3: ulcers and they're like nah, And they sent me to

1386
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 3: a word psychiatrists. And this is a guy that helps

1387
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 3: people hit one hundred miles an hour fastballs while are

1388
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 3: going through one hundred million dollar divorce. And he said,

1389
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 3: tell me your problems. I talked for about a half hour. Quiet,

1390
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 3: quiet guy. Well dog, he said, tell me your problems.

1391
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 3: And I talked and then he gave me a prescription

1392
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 3: quest He pushed you to me, and it said no.

1393
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 3: He said, you just talked for an hour half hour.

1394
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 3: You didn't tell me about any of your problems. You

1395
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 3: told them about all your friends problems. He said, there's

1396
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 3: a guilt that goes along with success, and now the

1397
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 3: fact that you're successful, you feel guilty that your friends

1398
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 3: aren't doing well. But you got to learn how to

1399
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 3: say no, because when you say yes, you take someone

1400
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 3: else's problem and turn it into yours. Damn, I had

1401
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 3: to learn how to say no to a lot of people.

1402
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 3: But know's a great word. It'll test the temperature of

1403
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 3: any relationship, even your woman. See, you got to have

1404
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 3: like we talking about the daily game, you got to

1405
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 3: have limits because take takers have no limits, they'll ravage you,

1406
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 3: you know, So you got to set a limit. You know,

1407
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 3: I use my gut, but I've been fortunate. I've been betrayed.

1408
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,799
Speaker 3: I got set up by my boys, almost got killed.

1409
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 3: I've been through it.

1410
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 4: Have you got to the point where you have to

1411
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 4: protect your energy as well? Now too, like where you've

1412
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 4: understood that as well?

1413
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, well I had it gave me high blood pressure,

1414
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 3: so now if you try to if me and you

1415
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 3: were friends and you try to aggravate me, my brain says,

1416
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let you kill me. You ain't gonna

1417
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 3: kill me, right, you got to go. So I learned

1418
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 3: how to. You know, I can just connect from people

1419
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 3: real quick. And it's a known fact. So the people

1420
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 3: that are in my circle, no Ice is not the

1421
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 3: nigga's name is Ice. I don't want no stress. Everybody

1422
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 3: better keep it calm and I will excommunicate you, like,

1423
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 3: don't bring it. My boys will call me up and

1424
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 3: it be like this to be like, yo, what's up Ice?

1425
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 3: No drama? No drama right right? You know, no drama,

1426
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 3: No drama, you know, because what my life is. You know,

1427
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 3: I'm in a different place right now. Man, Like you look,

1428
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 3: I got fish, aquar ams and pump. I'm not. I

1429
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 3: spent my time on the front line. I'm cool. Like

1430
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 3: niggas is like I'm outside, I'm like I'm inside.

1431
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: So I let me ask.

1432
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: So you know, there's a period between eighty eight, eighty

1433
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 2: nine to ninety and which, like I will say that

1434
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 2: you became the go to pundit or voice to politically

1435
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 2: speak on behalf of you know, rap music, or like

1436
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 2: you're on Donahue this week and you're on you know,

1437
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: Ted Coppo this weekend, like you How exhausting was it

1438
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 2: like having that weight placed on your shoulders? Because you know,

1439
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 2: there was a point where and I don't know if

1440
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 2: you remember this, I think back in eighty six run

1441
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: DMC and them did a show and either at Anaheim

1442
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,560
Speaker 2: or Long Beach or something, and you know, this is

1443
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 2: the first time we're hearing about like violence and rap

1444
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 2: music and all that stuff. And suddenly it's like you

1445
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 2: were the chosen and spoke like mouthpiece for.

1446
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: All of these like talk shows. How exhausting was that?

1447
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 3: I kind of wanted to smoke you.

1448
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: Did so you wanted to play the outlaw and just no,

1449
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:32,560
Speaker 1: I wanted.

1450
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 3: To play the person that could could could intellectualize it

1451
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 3: and break it down for these people. You know, like

1452
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 3: my whole life has almost been explaining to the squares

1453
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 3: what the streets it is thinking, and explaining to the

1454
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 3: streets how the squares are thinking. Like I've been that

1455
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 3: translator in between, because even though I am hood, I'm

1456
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 3: also well read and relatively intelligent, So I could I

1457
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 3: spoke in front of Congress and you know, I can

1458
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 3: break it down, you know, for what's going on. So

1459
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 3: when they were coming at me about free speech or this,

1460
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 3: that and the other, I was like, yeah, I'm ready

1461
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 3: to go. I mean, at the end of the day

1462
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 3: was me, Chuck and Chris who kind of like would

1463
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 3: have and even still today, man George Floyd comes up,

1464
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 3: my timeline blows up like ice, and I'm like, it's

1465
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 3: honestly a damn shame that there's no youngsters, you know.

1466
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 3: I mean, Killer Mike is out there, but it's a

1467
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 3: damn shame that there's no real young people that can

1468
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,959
Speaker 3: really speak for the culture.

1469
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:41,839
Speaker 4: Damn.

1470
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 3: You're right, you know. I mean, Kendrick doesn't speak that much,

1471
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 3: but there's nobody out there on the front line speaking

1472
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 3: about shit, you know. So they keep going to me,

1473
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 3: and like I always tell people, I say, I'm gonna

1474
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 3: put it out there. If what we need right now,

1475
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 3: we need a twenty year old public enemy, some little

1476
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 3: bad motherfuckers who would go head up with all the

1477
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 3: bullshit and let them know what's up. And a rebirth

1478
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 3: of a young Lauren Hill.

1479
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: Hm your mouth to you guys, heres.

1480
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 3: Man, you know, because those things are lacking right now.

1481
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:22,839
Speaker 3: In hip hop, you know, and that those voices are needed.

1482
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 3: And you know, the kids ain't gonna listen to me.

1483
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm their grandfather, you know what I'm saying. So they

1484
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 3: not listening. But some little twenty year old cats coming

1485
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,799
Speaker 3: out popping that shit and letting motherfuckers know you bullshit

1486
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 3: and you worried about this Gucci shit. You over here

1487
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 3: fucking up da da da da blow what Public Enemy

1488
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 3: did for us. We need another group to do that

1489
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 3: for the youth.

1490
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: A sure, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I wanted to ask you about og original gangs

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Speaker 3: then recording that out. What happens is hip hop doesn't

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Speaker 3: have a name for what we're doing. They don't have

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Speaker 3: a name for the music yet, so they're trying to

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Speaker 3: call it reality rap. They don't really know what it is.

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Speaker 3: And I'm for a minute, I called my stuff reality rap,

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Speaker 3: but that wasn't true because it's not everybody's reality. It

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Speaker 3: was my reality. So CBE comes out straight out of Compton,

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Speaker 3: Straight out of Compton dropped. I was already on my

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Speaker 3: third album when they dropped. They it felt like Godzilla

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Speaker 3: had landed, Like they came out like WHOA. I was

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Speaker 3: like yo. And the first lyrics straight out of Compton.

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Speaker 3: Crazy motherfucker named ice Cube from the gang called niggas

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Speaker 3: with attitudes, so they referred to their rap group as

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Speaker 3: a gang. The press said gangster rap. That's where the

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Speaker 3: term gangster rap came from. The press coined it from Cbe.

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Speaker 3: Now I've been doing it for two years, so I said, okay, Well,

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Speaker 3: if it's gangster rap, I'm the original gangst feel me. Now.

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Speaker 3: OG is a term that gangs have been using in

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Speaker 3: LA for decades. It just means first generation of the set.

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Speaker 3: So if Questlove is OG roots, he's there might have

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Speaker 3: been people to change members, but he's OG. He's one

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Speaker 3: of the first members. So here comes this word original gangster.

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Speaker 3: And I do an album that had twenty four cuts

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Speaker 3: on it and they had just stopped making vinyl and it,

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Speaker 3: you know, it was supposed to have been a double album.

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Speaker 3: And I always like to do first. I was always

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Speaker 3: into doing first. I'm like, I was like, you you

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01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 3: can always argue who is better, but you can't argue

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Speaker 3: who is first, you know, so I want to be first,

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Speaker 3: and Chuck says. Chuck says, iced Tea is the only

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Speaker 3: person he knows that does things that totally jeopardize his

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Speaker 3: entire existence to stay away. You know, just just fuck it.

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Speaker 3: Everything's going good, fuck it, let's just try it a

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Speaker 3: different way. So that's it the OG album, and it

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Speaker 3: was a big megalong album with a lot of different

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Speaker 3: lenses and a lot of different energy.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, that's it for Part one.

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Speaker 2: Ice TV Gate Team and Supreme so much game on

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Speaker 2: this episode that we had to make it a two

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Speaker 2: part So make sure y'all check out Ice tea daily

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Speaker 2: game podcast with weekday words of wisdom. Give him a listen,

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Speaker 2: you know, stay tuned for QLs Part two with one

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Speaker 2: and only legendary Iced Tea next week, where we talk

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Speaker 2: about his TV and his film work.

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Speaker 8: All right, Babs, we'st love. Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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