WEBVTT - 215: Boom Goes the Dynamite w/ Sam Page 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.720 Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of shondaland Audio in 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:41.919 partnership with Iheartradiots. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:27.200 And Katie. 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:33.360 Gee. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:38.280 Katie's wearying of all black. You look fire in a 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:39.080 black T shirt. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:44.080 Listen. I Oh, I feel like n of my wardrobe 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:44.560 is black? 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:45.479 Really? 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.280 Oh for sure, I have like a like five gray 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.520 T shirts, a couple of white ones, and the rest 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:51.120 are all black. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:52.920 But I'm also you should I can't. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:54.680 You can't see it now, but I'm wearing these shorts 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.520 that say vegan meat on me. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:58.440 On your dog. 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.080 Oh, I just only a little bit of your happy 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.560 trail and a little bit of your cute stomach. 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.839 It's so cute. You're the cutest. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.480 I actually think more so than just plain black T 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.679 shirts are white or gray, I think you have the 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.560 biggest collection of T shirts I've ever seen that say 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:15.199 like cool. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.600 Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Do you know what's funny? A 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.440 fun fact is that when we first started doing our 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:26.479 fittings for wardrobe for Scandal, I remember speaking with Lin Paula, 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.479 who's our amazing wardrobe person, and we were gonna go 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.480 the graphic tea route like it was good. Huck was 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:36.600 gonna wear all graphic like teas that said same pictures. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:37.319 I don't know. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:38.759 I don't know, but I think it was a smart 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.520 move not to go that way, because it sort of 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.360 gave him this comedic edge that I don't think we 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.120 really wanted for Huck. So we kind of, you know, 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.120 steered away from that. And I love that we went 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.560 with the flannels. You know, we wore fucking are we 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.120 were fucking well. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.600 Thank god that Quinn moved away from the sausage skirts 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.640 and the fucking button down and the spanks and like. 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:00.480 All that kind of shit. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:01.360 Right, did you. 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.080 Ever have you ever tried man spanks? 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.480 No? I haven't, I haven't, but yeah, you wear him 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.120 like on your torso, right. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:13.240 Yeah, they're like like a cinsure. They're like the Kardashian 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:14.560 cinsure for dudes. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.040 I feel like that would fuck with my ego. I 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.280 feel like I just I would rather suck in my stomach. 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:20.600 I'm not wearing the. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.640 Fucking mass banks on my torso. Even though I got 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.639 to by that ship well. 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:29.000 Someone to remain nameless and hasn't come on as a 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:30.079 guest yet. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.639 I know, exactly tell me whars. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.560 Man spanks like on the fucking regular, and I'm going 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.120 to out his ass on this podcast. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:40.200 I probably wouldn't care. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.919 He probably wouldn't care care, he wouldn't care. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.200 But give anyone who's listening to this podcast one hundred 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:50.120 dollars if you tweet or instagram message us and guess 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.960 who you think of the scandal. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.240 Where's the man's spank? 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:55.760 Family wears man spank? 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.079 You know how I found out, Katie that he wore 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.320 him because every time I would hug him, I'd be like, 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.560 what the fuck is this myrtle shit? This motherfucker's worried. 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:05.760 You could feel it. 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:05.880 You know. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.000 Yeah, you hug him and you feel like he's wearing 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.680 like a scuba suit underneath. 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.560 His T shirt. Like it feels like a like a condom. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:14.680 It feels like a. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.600 Yeah, it's like a body condom. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:21.079 Body condom under his T shirts. Have you you've done 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:21.720 drag before? 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:22.360 Yeah? 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.120 I have? Yeah, Yeah, I did drag. 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.639 One of my first movies was a movie called Stonewall, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.480 based on the nineteen sixty rights. 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.720 Yeah, most amazing indie film. 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:31.240 I remember. 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.480 They didn't even put me in drag till like God 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.440 on God on set, which is crazy? 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:37.800 Was that your craze? Imemver being in drag or you 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:38.840 would like fucked around. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.560 In your own Oh, that was my first time ever 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.120 being in drag. I mean I did a fitting and 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.720 stuff before the film, but when you really saw me 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.360 all put together, it was a first day on. But 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.160 you know, indie films, we didn't have the money to 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:49.680 do camera test or none of that shit. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:51.640 No, And did you like it? 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:53.840 I did like it. I loved it. I loved it. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.520 I remember, yo, it was so funny because you know, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.160 I'm quite hairy, so I remember I was still living 0:03:59.240 --> 0:03:59.920 at home at the time. 0:03:59.920 --> 0:04:01.640 You know what your body hair is nice? 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:06.280 Yeah, it's not too too it's darker. Yeah, it's exactly. 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:10.080 Coarse or like wiry. It's actually like kind of soft. 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.920 Yeah yeah yeah, but yo, Katie, I remember being in 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:14.840 the getting in the. 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.479 Bathtub because I still lived at home. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.320 Yeah, in Washington nights and my mother helping me shave 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.479 my body. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.200 Is that great? It was so sweet? 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:24.599 Yeah? 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:30.279 Yeah, anyway, so itchy, Oh it was terrible. Yeah. Yeah, 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:31.160 you get your. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:36.240 Own hairs and of crazy. Yeah, oh my god. 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.320 And Dragon was the best. It was. It was so 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:38.840 much fun. 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.000 You also love drag queens. I mean I feel like 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.680 you and Mikey like and your friends. You are very 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.839 supportive of the drive world out here in La which 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.680 is I mean, the makeup skills and the Oh I 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.840 don't think I've ever had to dress up like a guy. 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.320 No, that would be Katie, thank you. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.160 Like full on suit with like a little mustag and 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:01.599 your hair comb to the side. 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:02.440 I would. 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.960 I feel like I'm just too round faced, Like I 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.480 think I would need to have more with jawline or something. 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.839 No, well, you could get the facial hair glued on 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.680 your face and that she will you know what I mean, square. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.000 Your jaw off in your face. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:16.560 I've never had to do that. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:17.120 Do it. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:23.240 Let's do it, let's candle podcasts. Yes, it will be Yeah, everyone. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.440 Listening Gearmo not a shock or Gamo's favorite holiday and 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:26.960 the entire world is Halloween. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:28.880 Halloween, Halloween. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.400 Wait, my mother's calling me. Hold on, I just have 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:36.000 to tell her what Hey, Mom, are you okay? 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.120 Oh? Yeah, no, I'm good. I'm just in the middle 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:39.480 of a podcast record with Ghermo. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:40.400 I Love you by. 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:42.920 She said she's a all fuck. 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.400 No, she said, my mom. 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.160 Says fuck all the time. But I was like, Mom, 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.039 are you okay? Because when she calls me multiple times. 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.000 I just jumped the fucking nightmare. Yeah, and of course 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:52.520 I pick up. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:57.360 She goes, no, I'm checking on you. Yeah, you have to. 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.680 This is my mother. Ever, I mean, she already called 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.320 me be fucking voicemails. She's neurotic, and this is where 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.120 I get it from. It is not my fault. Generational 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.279 anxiety is not my fault. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.839 Oh, it's the worst my dad person in the world. 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.000 Read worry at all time. If she calls me more 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.000 than once, I've assumed you're like someone's like someone's in 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.120 the hospital. Yes, and it's ridiculous. 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:20.520 Yeah. 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.559 But she also says to me, if I go twenty 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.919 four hours without picking up a phone and calling or 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:27.880 she lends me, she sends me an email or a text, 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.400 and she says, if I don't hear from you within 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.160 the next twenty four hours, I'm calling the police. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.360 No way. I love her so much. 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.799 I'm like, oh my god, how am I not supposed 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:37.360 to be anxious? 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.800 This is the person's looking good. I don't know what 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.599 age she is, but she looks fucking amazing. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:47.000 She's sixty seven and she's never done anything. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.240 Wow, it's all that yoga. I mean she does that 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:51.640 yoga hardcore right woo. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:57.320 Yeah, Okay, we've got it. We've got a wild guest 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:58.360 coming on today that. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:04.680 I actually don't know what all. Okay, we have and gladiators. 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:09.360 We have a fucking left out of left field guild. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.040 Guess is a perfect description. I listen. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:18.200 I first, hot, fucking hot. I first was introduced to 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.160 his fond ass and amazing work on All My Children, 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.640 because he did a little stint on All My Children, y'all. 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.440 He did a great act. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.640 Yes he's a crazed shepherd. But let me rattle off 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:34.240 a few of his credits. A Shark, an amazing TV show, 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.960 Gray's Anatomy, Unbreakable, Kimmy Schmidt, House of Cards, was Connor 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.040 Ellis on House of Cards, mad Man, he was on 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:42.880 mad Men, Gossip Girl. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.920 God Gossip, These dudes that has just been on everything 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:48.000 and Katie. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.400 He was in a show called American Dreams with Tom Verica. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:55.120 Oh that's right, yes, yes, yes, he's a. 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:59.200 Dream boat and he's a fucking talent and he is 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:03.920 not a scandal like. Sadly for us, he was not 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.160 like a major recurring And I don't know why. Gierma 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.840 was like we got to get this guy on this episode. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.080 And I'm a fan that you did that. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.200 We started doing this more just like the rock star 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:16.120 guest stars. 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.760 Yeah, well his work is so good in this episode. 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:19.960 He's so good. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:20.840 It's so good. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:21.640 Yeah. 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.760 His name his name is even hot? Yeah, like his 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:30.280 name is even hot? Is yes today? For all you 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:35.680 freaking awesome gladiators? Is the one, the one, the only same? 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:40.840 Sam Page? What's up to? 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:41.640 Sam Page? 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.840 Sam Paige? What what a site for? Sorry? 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.800 He's fucking younger right now than you did twenty five 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.720 years ago when we did this damn show? 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.040 What the hell is happening? 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:58.520 This dream boat who looks the way he does and 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.400 can act the way he does, and is Benjamin Button? 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:06.320 Because you look younger than you do? What? What are 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:07.920 you doing? What do you do? 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:08.400 What is it? 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:09.120 What's the secret? 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.079 I think since I since the episode when we all 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.400 work together, I've had four kids, you. 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:22.080 Should look old as fuck, like ay drained? 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.960 No, But I've been eating their food mostly. I just 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.240 subsists off of whatever is left on their plate. So 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.480 I think maybe kid's food keeps you young. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.960 That's so, it's because you're running around. It's because you're 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:37.960 absolutely running around, like a top. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:39.720 Yeah. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.160 Oh my goodness. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.040 But Sam, I'm so happy for you because if it is, 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.679 if it is what's making you look the way you 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.480 do and act the way you do, then maybe have. 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:50.160 A couple more. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:58.120 Yeah, like just keep you had sort of been on 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.840 the Shondaaland and you had been in the Shondaland space 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.760 before Scandal, like you had been on Grays or I'd been. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.680 I'd never been on Grades. I had auditioned a bunch, 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.720 so I mean maybe they had watched enough footage of 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.920 me to cobble together a couple episodes, But then you 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:15.400 put it. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:17.880 Have you not been on Grazing out of Me? 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:18.120 Now? 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.360 I just finished I just did the last four episodes 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:20.880 this season. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.640 Yeah yeah yeah, wow Sam. 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.120 Yeah, because when I when I saw your stuff, it 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.000 said twenty twenty three, and I was like, oh shit, 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:29.679 he was just on Grays like. 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.160 You did a little arc there right? 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:32.080 Yeah? 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:32.840 Wait? Sam? 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.160 Did you did you audition for Scandal? How did you 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:37.280 book Scandal? 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.360 Doing a couple you know, notable things and they locked 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:41.040 me in for that one? 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:42.480 You did House of Cards too? 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:44.560 House of Cards? 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.319 That's two great? 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.840 How did you become an actor? Tell us your origin story? 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:51.760 How did this become a thing. 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:55.400 Well, I was in I played baseball in college and 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:57.960 we didn't really have a film study class. 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.160 There was kind of a where did you go to college? 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:01.280 Dowent to Princeton. 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.080 Oh my god, get here, go away. 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.959 You're not allowed to have all of these things. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:08.320 Wait? 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.360 Wait are you okay? 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:18.280 Was like, what is I was just I dropped as butt. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.240 Drop one of my notes because I got so excited 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.120 because I I know, Sam, I want you to tell 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.679 our listeners about He earned a BA in ecology and 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.959 evolutionary biology and he is theater. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.080 This is such a fun little thing. Tell me if 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:32.600 this is true. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.920 He for his senior thesis, he wrote about the mating 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.360 habits of a female mosquitofish and it was published in 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:40.280 a science journal. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.160 Right, Sam, that's true. 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:46.640 Sam Paige, I don't. So why did you become an 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:48.440 actor when you could do all these other things? 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:52.160 That was so I chose by I kind of knew 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:57.840 that I wanted to do acting. Like freshman year, I 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.440 wasn't loving school. I was sick. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.480 I grew up in Milwaukee. I was like a public 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:03.079 school kid. 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.000 I got I went to Princeton to play baseball and 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.760 just kind of figure out, and then I kind of 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.160 was homesick and felt really out of place. It seemed 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.240 to me like everybody knew each other when they got 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.240 there and had already. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.120 Like so many kids also at a school like that 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.280 went to like prep school and had like. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:21.960 A year of course. 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.800 So I was like, so I thought about transferring, and 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.240 you thought, you know, I'd really like to transfer to 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:28.199 like a film school. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:29.800 That would be it. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.880 And then and then, you know, I thought about it, and 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:33.720 I said, you know what, No, if I leave here, 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.040 I'm always going to wonder what would happen if I 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.600 had just gutted it out, and it wouldn't be just 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:40.400 knowing myself. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.680 That wouldn't be a good feeling, I thought. And I 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.720 could do film school as graduate work. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.360 So what happens when you call your family and say, 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:52.040 record scratch right, I want to be an actor? 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:57.440 A well, I so I didn't just call up and say, hey, 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.959 thanks for the you know, insanely expensive education. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.800 Now I'm going to go be an actor. I said, okay. 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:08.199 You know, I looked at what I achieved in college 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:13.160 and graduating, getting okay grades, getting a published a thesis, 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.480 and doing that all that. I never actually at the 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.120 onset or at the outset, thought oh I can do this. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:22.760 I thought, oh my god, I'll do this for like 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:23.200 a year and. 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.359 Then I'll transfer somewhere where I can actually. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.760 Graduate and had some success and thought, okay, I did 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.120 that without. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.440 Any real passion, any real like direction, just like to. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.440 Get the work done. Now, I kind of have no 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:40.120 idea what my own limitations are. I have to the 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.560 only way to get the value out of what my 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.480 parents have given me in this education is to apply 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.439 that to a dream, like, really think big, and what 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.120 do I want to do most? What do I want 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.839 to do where if I had to work under hard 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.160 conditions for the rest of my life and not really 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.640 be allowed to higher Like what would that be that 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.520 I could still enjoy that that I would want to 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:08.360 work with my to help raise a family. And just 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:12.559 really if i'd grind, what would I grind and enjoy doing? 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:13.240 Right? 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.400 And acting was kind of a no brainer. It was 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.440 I always kind of wanted to I have. 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.760 That too, God damn it. It's like it's oh God, 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.160 it's like I can't do it anything. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.480 So I was always really excited. I couldn't wait to 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.800 get into classes and tried a bunch of different ones 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:30.960 and really really loved it. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.280 I mean, there's always something I look forward to the 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.560 most every week, and I've actually liked to get be 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:36.920 in classes whenever. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.000 Katie does that too. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:39.480 I'm in class right now. 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:40.360 It's great. 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.080 It's great. It's like going to the gymney. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.120 Yeah, I need to go. 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.920 We will be back with more after the break. 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.800 We're talking about episode two fifteen, which was called Boom 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.800 Goes the Dynamite, which aired on February twenty first into 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:00.600 the thirteen. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.040 It was written by Jenna Bans and it. 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:08.400 Was directed by Randy Zisk Do you remember Randy zisk Oh? 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:09.120 I remember him? 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:10.800 I do, but I don't really have I don't have 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.720 like moments of him from this episode, but I remember loving. 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:14.040 Working with him. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:14.400 Yeah. 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:15.240 Yeah. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.000 The guest stars were Scott Foley as Jake Ballard, Kurt 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.800 Fuller is Great in Osborne, the CIA director, ma Jana 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:24.960 Tova as Molly Ackerman, Jay Renee Penya as Louise the 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:25.840 President Secretary. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.280 Joe Holt is the Secretary of Defend. 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.880 Troy Vincent is the National Security Advisor, Jay Jackson as 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:35.080 the news anchor, Erica Schaeffer as TV anchor Eric maybe is. 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:35.720 Who we love. 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.720 I love Eric Maybe He's great. 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:42.800 Yeah, as Senator Peter Caldwell and Sam Page as Congressman 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:47.000 Will Calledwell and Lisa Sheridan as Marion Calledwell. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.080 And then real quick in Scandal Pace, we're going to 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:55.000 read what happens so our listeners can maybe jog their memory. 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.120 David turns to Popa associates what he thinks he's being followed, 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.200 and his things deepen with Jake Ballard that he's surprisingly 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:02.880 close to fits awkward. 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.000 Meanwhile fits his face with a delicate hostage situation is 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:07.520 he's unsure who he can trust. 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.560 Olivia and the OPA team become high powered matchmakers for 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.360 Peter Caldwell, an up and coming politician who is secretly 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:14.480 in love with his brother's wife. 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:15.040 Oh shit. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.800 Cyrus tries to find ways to make it back into 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.120 fits as Good grace As, while Melly thwarts his every attempt. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:21.920 But Cyrus has the last laugh when he flips the 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.680 tables by tricking Melly into openly talking about the President's 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:25.800 business or porter. 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:29.920 As. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.320 Just as Fitz picks up on a potential flirt Mance, 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.960 I love the race word, Let's say it again? And 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.480 Justice Fitz picks up on a potential flirt maance that 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.480 Olivia is involved with, and we learn who the mole is. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:46.440 It's CIA director Osbourne, or at least we think it is. Okay, So, Sam, 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.960 you did an audition for this part. You freaking nailed it. 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.200 We It's one of these episodes where I love because 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:54.840 it's sort of like case of the Week. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:55.920 We get back into the. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.080 Like boom boomp bump bom bomp bump bump bump bump 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.479 bum bum bum, like we get back into the Stevie wonder. 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:06.560 Let's have the all the people at OPA work on 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.640 this case, and Olivia has been hired to help you 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.199 win the race for governor, and no one you're so 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.240 lined up to win it, except no one can believe 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.320 that your dream boat face has been single for ten years, 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:21.520 so everyone just assumes your gang. 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.080 Yeah, I don't go out, I don't date, I don't 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.640 see anybody's. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.360 Guess because you're getting it close to home. 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:33.399 Yeah, and we have. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:38.160 This amazing like like this parallel show where you know, Carrie. 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:39.960