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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of shondaland Audio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Iheartradiots.

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Speaker 2: And Katie.

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Speaker 3: Gee.

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Speaker 4: Katie's wearying of all black. You look fire in a

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Speaker 4: black T shirt.

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Speaker 5: Listen. I Oh, I feel like n of my wardrobe

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Speaker 5: is black?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 1: Oh for sure, I have like a like five gray

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Speaker 1: T shirts, a couple of white ones, and the rest

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Speaker 1: are all black.

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Speaker 5: But I'm also you should I can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't see it now, but I'm wearing these shorts

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Speaker 1: that say vegan meat on me.

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Speaker 3: On your dog.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I just only a little bit of your happy

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Speaker 4: trail and a little bit of your cute stomach.

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Speaker 3: It's so cute. You're the cutest.

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Speaker 4: I actually think more so than just plain black T

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Speaker 4: shirts are white or gray, I think you have the

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Speaker 4: biggest collection of T shirts I've ever seen that say

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Speaker 4: like cool.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Do you know what's funny? A

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Speaker 1: fun fact is that when we first started doing our

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Speaker 1: fittings for wardrobe for Scandal, I remember speaking with Lin Paula,

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Speaker 1: who's our amazing wardrobe person, and we were gonna go

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Speaker 1: the graphic tea route like it was good. Huck was

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Speaker 1: gonna wear all graphic like teas that said same pictures.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think it was a smart

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Speaker 1: gave him this comedic edge that I don't think we

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Speaker 1: really wanted for Huck. So we kind of, you know,

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Speaker 1: steered away from that. And I love that we went

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Speaker 1: with the flannels. You know, we wore fucking are we

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Speaker 1: were fucking well.

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Speaker 4: Thank god that Quinn moved away from the sausage skirts

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Speaker 4: and the fucking button down and the spanks and like.

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Speaker 3: All that kind of shit.

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Speaker 5: Right, did you.

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Speaker 3: Ever have you ever tried man spanks?

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Speaker 1: No? I haven't, I haven't, but yeah, you wear him

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Speaker 1: like on your torso, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like like a cinsure. They're like the Kardashian

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Speaker 4: cinsure for dudes.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that would fuck with my ego. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I just I would rather suck in my stomach.

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Speaker 5: I'm not wearing the.

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Speaker 1: Fucking mass banks on my torso. Even though I got

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Speaker 1: to by that ship well.

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Speaker 4: Someone to remain nameless and hasn't come on as a

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Speaker 4: guest yet.

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Speaker 5: I know, exactly tell me whars.

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Speaker 4: Man spanks like on the fucking regular, and I'm going

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Speaker 4: to out his ass on this podcast.

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Speaker 5: I probably wouldn't care.

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Speaker 3: He probably wouldn't care care, he wouldn't care.

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Speaker 4: But give anyone who's listening to this podcast one hundred

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Speaker 4: dollars if you tweet or instagram message us and guess

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Speaker 4: who you think of the scandal.

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Speaker 5: Where's the man's spank?

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Speaker 3: Family wears man spank?

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Speaker 1: You know how I found out, Katie that he wore

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Speaker 1: him because every time I would hug him, I'd be like,

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Speaker 1: what the fuck is this myrtle shit? This motherfucker's worried.

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Speaker 1: You could feel it.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you hug him and you feel like he's wearing

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Speaker 4: like a scuba suit underneath.

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Speaker 3: His T shirt. Like it feels like a like a condom.

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Speaker 3: It feels like a.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a body condom.

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Speaker 4: Body condom under his T shirts. Have you you've done

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Speaker 4: drag before?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I have? Yeah, Yeah, I did drag.

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Speaker 1: One of my first movies was a movie called Stonewall,

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Speaker 1: based on the nineteen sixty rights.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, most amazing indie film.

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Speaker 5: I remember.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even put me in drag till like God

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Speaker 1: on God on set, which is crazy?

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Speaker 3: Was that your craze? Imemver being in drag or you

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Speaker 3: would like fucked around.

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Speaker 1: In your own Oh, that was my first time ever

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Speaker 1: being in drag. I mean I did a fitting and

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Speaker 1: stuff before the film, but when you really saw me

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Speaker 1: you know, indie films, we didn't have the money to

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Speaker 1: do camera test or none of that shit.

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Speaker 3: No, And did you like it?

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Speaker 5: I did like it. I loved it. I loved it.

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Speaker 1: I remember, yo, it was so funny because you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm quite hairy, so I remember I was still living

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Speaker 3: You know what your body hair is nice?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not too too it's darker. Yeah, it's exactly.

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Speaker 4: Coarse or like wiry. It's actually like kind of soft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, but yo, Katie, I remember being in

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Speaker 1: the getting in the.

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Speaker 5: Bathtub because I still lived at home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in Washington nights and my mother helping me shave

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Speaker 1: my body.

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Speaker 5: Is that great? It was so sweet?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, anyway, so itchy, Oh it was terrible. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Own hairs and of crazy. Yeah, oh my god.

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Speaker 5: And Dragon was the best. It was. It was so

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Speaker 5: much fun.

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Speaker 4: You also love drag queens. I mean I feel like

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Speaker 4: you and Mikey like and your friends. You are very

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Speaker 4: is I mean, the makeup skills and the Oh I

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Speaker 4: don't think I've ever had to dress up like a guy.

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Speaker 3: No, that would be Katie, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Like full on suit with like a little mustag and

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Speaker 1: your hair comb to the side.

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Speaker 3: I would.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm just too round faced, Like I

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Speaker 4: think I would need to have more with jawline or something.

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Speaker 1: No, well, you could get the facial hair glued on

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Speaker 1: your face and that she will you know what I mean, square.

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Speaker 5: Your jaw off in your face.

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Speaker 3: I've never had to do that.

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Speaker 1: Do it.

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Speaker 5: Let's do it, let's candle podcasts. Yes, it will be Yeah, everyone.

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Speaker 4: Listening Gearmo not a shock or Gamo's favorite holiday and

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Speaker 4: the entire world is Halloween.

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Speaker 5: Halloween, Halloween.

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Speaker 3: Wait, my mother's calling me. Hold on, I just have

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Speaker 3: to tell her what Hey, Mom, are you okay?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, no, I'm good. I'm just in the middle

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Speaker 3: I Love you by.

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Speaker 5: She said she's a all fuck.

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Speaker 3: No, she said, my mom.

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Speaker 4: Says fuck all the time. But I was like, Mom,

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Speaker 4: I just jumped the fucking nightmare. Yeah, and of course

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Speaker 3: She goes, no, I'm checking on you. Yeah, you have to.

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Speaker 4: This is my mother. Ever, I mean, she already called

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Speaker 4: me be fucking voicemails. She's neurotic, and this is where

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Speaker 4: I get it from. It is not my fault. Generational

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Speaker 4: anxiety is not my fault.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's the worst my dad person in the world.

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Speaker 3: Read worry at all time. If she calls me more

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Speaker 4: But she also says to me, if I go twenty

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Speaker 4: and she says, if I don't hear from you within

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Speaker 5: No way. I love her so much.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, how am I not supposed

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Speaker 3: to be anxious?

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Speaker 1: This is the person's looking good. I don't know what

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Speaker 4: She's sixty seven and she's never done anything.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's all that yoga. I mean she does that

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Speaker 1: yoga hardcore right woo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, we've got it. We've got a wild guest

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Speaker 4: I actually don't know what all. Okay, we have and gladiators.

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Speaker 4: We have a fucking left out of left field guild.

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Speaker 5: Guess is a perfect description. I listen.

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Speaker 1: I first, hot, fucking hot. I first was introduced to

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Speaker 1: his fond ass and amazing work on All My Children,

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Speaker 1: because he did a little stint on All My Children, y'all.

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Speaker 3: He did a great act.

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Speaker 1: Yes he's a crazed shepherd. But let me rattle off

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Speaker 1: a few of his credits. A Shark, an amazing TV show,

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Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy, Unbreakable, Kimmy Schmidt, House of Cards, was Connor

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Speaker 4: God Gossip, These dudes that has just been on everything

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Speaker 1: He was in a show called American Dreams with Tom Verica.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, yes, yes, yes, he's a.

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Speaker 4: Dream boat and he's a fucking talent and he is

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Speaker 4: like a major recurring And I don't know why. Gierma

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Speaker 4: was like we got to get this guy on this episode.

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Speaker 3: And I'm a fan that you did that.

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Speaker 4: We started doing this more just like the rock star

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well his work is so good in this episode.

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Speaker 1: He's so good.

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Speaker 3: It's so good.

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Speaker 4: His name his name is even hot? Yeah, like his

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Speaker 4: name is even hot? Is yes today? For all you

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Speaker 4: freaking awesome gladiators? Is the one, the one, the only same?

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Speaker 5: Sam Page? What's up to?

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Speaker 7: Sam Page?

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Speaker 3: Sam Paige? What what a site for? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: He's fucking younger right now than you did twenty five

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Speaker 5: What the hell is happening?

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Speaker 4: This dream boat who looks the way he does and

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Speaker 4: can act the way he does, and is Benjamin Button?

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Speaker 3: Because you look younger than you do? What? What are

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Speaker 5: What is it?

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Speaker 3: What's the secret?

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Speaker 6: I think since I since the episode when we all

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Speaker 6: work together, I've had four kids, you.

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Speaker 1: Should look old as fuck, like ay drained?

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Speaker 6: No, But I've been eating their food mostly. I just

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Speaker 6: I think maybe kid's food keeps you young.

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Speaker 4: That's so, it's because you're running around. It's because you're

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Speaker 4: absolutely running around, like a top.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 4: But Sam, I'm so happy for you because if it is,

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Speaker 4: if it is what's making you look the way you

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Speaker 5: A couple more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like just keep you had sort of been on

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Speaker 4: the Shondaaland and you had been in the Shondaland space

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Speaker 4: before Scandal, like you had been on Grays or I'd been.

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Speaker 3: I'm in class right now.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about episode two fifteen, which was called Boom

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Speaker 3: It was written by Jenna Bans and it.

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Speaker 1: Was directed by Randy Zisk Do you remember Randy zisk Oh?

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Speaker 4: The guest stars were Scott Foley as Jake Ballard, Kurt

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Speaker 3: We get back into the.

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Speaker 4: This amazing like like this parallel show where you know, Carrie.

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Speaker 1: Had you worked with Eric maybeas before Eric? Maybeas plays

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Speaker 6: I met him, i'd met him before I have different auditions.

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Speaker 5: No way, he's so wonderful.

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Speaker 6: Then he's great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah's you made a great pair of brothers, truly, Like

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Speaker 4: it was really, really wonderful. Oh, I'm so glad that

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Speaker 7: Remember do you.

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Speaker 1: Remember Katie and I?

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Speaker 7: You do?

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Speaker 2: Of course?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Which one did you like better? Which one did you

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Speaker 7: I think probably probably me.

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Speaker 2: It was just better when both of you guys were

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Speaker 3: We took some ship this morning.

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Speaker 5: You did no, no, no, we did it.

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Speaker 6: We did it.

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Speaker 4: But we didn't take any drugs. We didn't take any

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Speaker 1: Like this episode is called Boom Goes the Dynamite and

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Speaker 1: I renamed it stink stank stunk those scenes where you

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Speaker 4: Hawk hasn't showered because in this episode he's trailing David

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Speaker 4: Actually I think I would have acted it better now,

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Speaker 4: But I do have a lovely scene where I go

458
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Speaker 4: to Hawk at the end and I say, like, huck,

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Speaker 4: I've been like reading up on it and it says

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Speaker 4: like you know, when you've been tortured, like with water,

461
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Speaker 4: even the rain could make you feel, you know, weird,

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Speaker 4: which is why he's not showering and why he smells

463
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Speaker 4: like absolute body odor fart smell.

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Speaker 6: Did you do anything to bring a scent in, like

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Speaker 6: to like heavy clone on so they could at least

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Speaker 6: add something to work off of.

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Speaker 1: That is such a great question. I wish I would

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Speaker 1: have thought of that, But no, I didn't. I wish

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Speaker 1: I would have just been like, I'm not showering this

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Speaker 1: whole fucking week.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm glad you weren't method enough to do that

472
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Speaker 4: stupid shit. No, but I like Sam's idea. It would

473
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Speaker 4: have been hilarious if on one of the days you

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Speaker 4: just did something like whether it was like a lot

475
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Speaker 4: of after shave or like cologne.

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Speaker 7: Gone like full cab driver, it would have.

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Speaker 3: Been a really funny joke.

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Speaker 4: You missed out lost opportunity, man, But it's really funny,

479
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Speaker 4: and you have a just to wrap that up. That

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Speaker 4: scene like Gemo has such a lovely You look at

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Speaker 4: Quinn and you're like I've lived in the subway, I've

482
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Speaker 4: lived in a hole, I've done one million things. Me

483
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Speaker 4: having an anxiety attack moment, It'll be fine and after

484
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Speaker 4: the rain stops, I'll shower and I'll.

485
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Speaker 5: Be fine, right, yeah, and I won't stink no more.

486
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was thinking about we were guarding. They all

487
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Speaker 4: there's one sex scene in the episode. Oh, we should

488
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Speaker 4: have that. See on Scandal, we always have the like

489
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Speaker 4: death toll number of how many people have died, but

490
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Speaker 4: we should really have the like the We have to

491
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Speaker 4: come up with something. What it's called, Yeah, like the

492
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Speaker 4: fuck button or something. I don't know, but Darby, Abby

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Speaker 4: and and.

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Speaker 3: David Rosen have sex on the desk and it's cute.

495
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Speaker 3: They're always cute. They're so cute.

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Speaker 1: Had you worked with Lisa Sheridan before Sam?

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Speaker 5: She played she played, uh this your your sister in law?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you never, I've never worked with before.

500
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Speaker 5: She was great too. You guys had great com really good.

501
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Speaker 1: And you had to shoot it after lunch, After lunch,

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Speaker 1: that's the biggest nightmare.

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Speaker 3: Did you eat?

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Speaker 5: Do you remember what you had for lunch? What was

505
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Speaker 5: the lunch?

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Speaker 7: I'm sure I had the chicken.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you did.

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Speaker 4: Why do you say it like that? Why are you

509
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Speaker 4: sure you had chicken? Because you just needed some protein

510
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Speaker 4: to get through it.

511
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Speaker 7: It's just you know, lunches, cater.

512
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Speaker 4: It's like, there's a chicken, there's a fish, there's a possum.

513
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Speaker 7: What's for chicken today?

514
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Speaker 3: What's your favorite food? Sam?

515
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Speaker 5: We love food.

516
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Speaker 2: My favorite food. I love a shrink cocktail.

517
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Speaker 7: I love shrink.

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Speaker 3: I know, were you nervous to work with Carrie?

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Speaker 6: Yes? Absolutely, and then and then up until they said action,

520
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Speaker 6: I was increasingly nervous because I saw just.

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Speaker 2: In the rehearsals, like.

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Speaker 6: The megawattage that comes off of her, and on top

523
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Speaker 6: of that, how talented she is and how hard she

524
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Speaker 6: works and how hard her job is. And when she's

525
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Speaker 6: when she's firing on all those cylinders, when it's game.

526
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Speaker 7: Time, it's sucked up.

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Speaker 2: It's intense.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing.

529
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Speaker 4: She's wildly impressive. Also the most beautiful looking creature.

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Speaker 3: It's distracting.

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Speaker 4: It's like I can't even sometimes I like when I'm we're,

532
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Speaker 4: you know, just hanging out as regular friends, I'm like.

533
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Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa?

534
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Speaker 4: Like this is insane, Like you look different than regular people.

535
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Speaker 4: You're like she you know, I think when the Great

536
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Speaker 4: Reset happens and all the aliens make themselves known, she

537
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Speaker 4: will be one of them. She just is too smart,

538
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Speaker 4: too pretty. I'm like, you are operating on.

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Speaker 1: A whole other sh She's really good about going incognito though,

540
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Speaker 1: because I bumped into her at Whole Foods like five

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Speaker 1: years ago and she was like hi, And I was like, girl,

542
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Speaker 1: who is this little nerd girl talking about like yeah,

543
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Speaker 1: And I was like, uh, Carrie, Yeah, she looked like

544
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Speaker 1: a little nerd.

545
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Speaker 7: Watching this watching this episode.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe how young she looked.

547
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Speaker 5: Yeah, she was exactly like you said.

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Speaker 4: That dress claps all around for Lynn Powelo, because she

549
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Speaker 4: wears this dress in this episode. That's this white dress

550
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Speaker 4: that has these like black kind of cut out triangles

551
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 4: of these sequence right pointing like arrows to the boobies

552
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Speaker 4: and she looks inaty.

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Speaker 1: Do you know who the designer is? It's it's Escotta.

554
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Speaker 1: Escotta is is It's an Escotta gown?

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Speaker 7: You know.

556
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Speaker 4: I just like there's something about I'm doing this podcasts

557
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: with him. He just he does a lot of research

558
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 4: behind the scenes, he really does, and it's so it's

559
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 4: so admirable. He spends time like really because he cares

560
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Speaker 4: and it brings me such joy that he knows who

561
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Speaker 4: that designer is or he knows all your credits.

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Speaker 3: He works so hard and I just don't do that.

563
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Speaker 4: And I apologize to all the gladiators, but thank god,

564
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Speaker 4: Ghirmo's the coache.

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Speaker 1: Glynn is on the record for saying that she chose

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Speaker 1: that dress because lives life. Her life and her loves

567
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Speaker 1: are in turmoil in this episode, and that's why the

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Speaker 1: dress is black and white, you know what I mean,

569
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Speaker 1: because it's sort of you know, those two opposing colors,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, so she thought about it.

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Speaker 5: That's wow.

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Speaker 6: Come on, I'm not surprised to hear that, because that

573
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Speaker 6: was one of my big takeaways from working on the

574
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Speaker 6: show and working with you guys, was how thoughtful everybody

575
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Speaker 6: was there and how hard everybody's working to bring their

576
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Speaker 6: best to the show. It was it was such an

577
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Speaker 6: impressive environment.

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Speaker 2: It was so cool to think, Oh, this is what

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Speaker 2: it takes to have a hit show.

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Speaker 6: And you know what's really cool is and I always

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Speaker 6: tell people when they asked, what was it like when

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Speaker 6: you're on Scandal? I said, you know what was really

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Speaker 6: cool is I got there like maybe a week or

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Speaker 6: two after the show had like happened, like it had

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Speaker 6: been on the air for a year, but maybe like

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Speaker 6: right before I got there, it was like, oh, this

587
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Speaker 6: show is a hit and it had been on the air,

588
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Speaker 6: but now like it had like clicked and the moment

589
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Speaker 6: was there and the ship like I remember being around

590
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Speaker 6: you guys, and you guys are all.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we're on a hit show.

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Speaker 7: Now this is this feels good? Like God, I love it.

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Speaker 4: It was it was you're right because this is episode

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Speaker 4: this is episode number to fifteen, so this is like

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Speaker 4: you're exactly right.

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Speaker 3: This is exactly when it sort.

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Speaker 7: Of like it landed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it hit, it had it had hit. Now, wait,

599
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Speaker 3: were we better of a cast than mad Men?

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Speaker 5: Yes, we'll be right back. Guys.

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Speaker 3: Were you at our table read for this episode?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: You were?

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Speaker 7: And I think I was.

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Speaker 6: I met Shonda at the table read and.

606
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Speaker 2: Didn't know it was Shonda because I was.

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Speaker 6: My head was spinning and I knew I knew Verica

608
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Speaker 6: because we had worked together.

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Speaker 7: I was so excited.

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Speaker 6: I was looking for Tom and I and I think

611
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Speaker 6: I saw him, and then Shanda came up to introduce

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Speaker 6: herself and I was like Hi, nice to meet you.

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Speaker 2: But she didn't say Hi, I'm Shonda.

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Speaker 7: She said hi Sam, welcome and no should she is.

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Speaker 2: I said that, but I was.

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Speaker 7: Like, oh, hi, a, it's nice to meet things.

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Speaker 2: And I wasn't as probably gracious as I would otherwise.

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Speaker 7: And then I.

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Speaker 2: Think later on at at in that same table read,

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Speaker 2: I realized, oh no, I.

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Speaker 7: Really Shonda rhymes that's Shonda, and.

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Speaker 3: Then I should have kissed the rain didn't and.

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Speaker 6: I never worked for her until until uh grace came.

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Speaker 7: Probably why.

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Speaker 1: That's probably why I don't want to see his face

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Speaker 1: ever again.

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Speaker 3: Missed opportunity. No, that's not why.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that was I was at the table reading.

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Speaker 4: It was okay, well we have to I know, we

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Speaker 4: only we don't want to take up too much of

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Speaker 4: your time, but we have to read a few fun facts.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it, which is, while talking with Jake, Fitz

633
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: mentions the swim team and starts to take a drink

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Speaker 4: with his left hand, and after a very brief reaction

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Speaker 4: shot on Jake, the camera cuts back to Fitz drinking

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Speaker 4: with his right.

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Speaker 5: I didn't even notice it until I read it.

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Speaker 4: And another fun fact. Olivia gives a similar lecture to

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Speaker 4: will Caldwell that she gave to Anna Gordon in the

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Speaker 4: second episode of season two, The Other Woman.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's true. I kind of remember that.

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Speaker 7: G D you.

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Speaker 5: I figured out a fun fact too.

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Speaker 1: I remember shooting this episode and the scenes where they're

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Speaker 1: vetting fake wives for your character Sam. There's a scene

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Speaker 1: with a teacher on a playground and there are these

647
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Speaker 1: these kids playing, and Verica's son is in that playground scene,

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Speaker 1: and I remember.

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Speaker 4: Remember that he's you know, he's like he's a teenager now,

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Speaker 4: like he's like almost six feet or whatever. And they

651
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Speaker 4: live in London because runs all of Bridgerton and Queen

652
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Speaker 4: Charlotte and basically, yeah, he moved his whole family London.

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Speaker 5: Yep. And the other fun fact is that lives gown

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Speaker 5: is an Ascata. Sorry but we said that.

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Speaker 7: I didn't get that. I'm not I'm not on Twitter,

656
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Speaker 7: but I am on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: We read some tweets at the time because at the

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Speaker 4: time we were at I'm in viewing and tweeting every

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Speaker 4: single episode. Yeah on Thursday nights. Let's see if anyone

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Speaker 4: tweeted about you and your performances.

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Speaker 1: Oh, somebody did, Yeah, they did.

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Speaker 5: Someone did.

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Speaker 3: Anom mom mood.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Katie, get it together. I can't really see this

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Speaker 4: anam mom mood. On February twenty second, tweeted, the Caldwell

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Speaker 4: brothers are really hot multiple exclamation points hashtag candle and

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Speaker 4: we agree with you and I'm let's.

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Speaker 5: See, wrote Miss Royal Royally.

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Speaker 1: On February twenty second, twenty thirteen, she tweeted, my baby

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Speaker 1: Huck gotta take a bath hashtag scandal can't You're not wrong?

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Speaker 4: All yes, and as mids Virtuous also tweeted what's wrong

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Speaker 4: with Hank hashtag scandal yeah.

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Speaker 5: And Chris Cooper Chris Cooper tweeted, so Fitz has old

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Speaker 5: dude watching Olivia hashtag scandal she's talking about Jake yep,

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Speaker 5: yeah he does, thank god.

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Speaker 4: And then someone parked behind at Lynn with no E tweeted,

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Speaker 4: look who I parked behind hashtag scannal And it's a

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Speaker 4: picture of a Maryland license plate of a black, beautiful

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Speaker 4: BMW whose license plate is fit.

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Speaker 3: Wow. So you were right, Sam Page, our show was

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Speaker 3: taking off if someone or maybe that's just their personal

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Speaker 5: This dude.

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Speaker 1: Nelson Bronco tweeted, I want to be Olivia Pope when

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Speaker 1: I grow up, don't y'all?

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Speaker 4: Yes, C two Esque c C Kpers tweeted at Kuana

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Speaker 4: Rights the Scandal team of actors slash producers have really

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Speaker 4: done a fantastic job of engaging fans. They created a

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Speaker 4: Community's so nice.

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Speaker 6: When you guys were live tweeting. That was kind of

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Speaker 6: the first time I'd ever been around anything like that.

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Speaker 7: I mean that was when shows going to cast crazy.

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Speaker 2: Started live tweeting, right, Yeah, I've tried that before. Man,

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Speaker 2: that's exhausting. It feels like you're it feels like you're

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Speaker 2: swinging at a pinata for an hour straight and they're

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Speaker 4: I used to go to bed on Thursday nights and

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Speaker 4: my eyes were like cross eye, my brain, my thumbs

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Speaker 4: if we were on set.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was we knew it was what was

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Speaker 1: make what was engaging the fans, and it was like

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Speaker 1: making the show even more and more popular. So we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, next up, we have episode two sixteen called Top

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Speaker 4: of the Hour. I can't remember what the fuck that's

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Speaker 3: We have a.

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Speaker 4: Guest that just died of ninety three factors and a

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Speaker 4: bleedout on Grey's anatomy. Who's as handsome and charming and

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Speaker 4: talented of a baseball player as Sam Page?

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Speaker 3: Or who's the father of form Holy?

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Speaker 1: Who?

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Speaker 7: Also? Yeah and Poppy and who can you appreciate this? Who?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: Two and a half weeks ago closed Carmities into with Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing it?

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Speaker 2: I filmed a little movie, a little Christmas movie, and.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, who produced it?

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Speaker 7: It was Mandy, Mandy Turpin.

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Speaker 3: I love Mandy. She produced the Christmas movie.

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Speaker 5: I shot there last year.

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Speaker 3: Where did you stay?

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Speaker 2: Where did you Sheridan?

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Speaker 7: Across the street from Carmody's.

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Speaker 3: Did you have a good time?

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Speaker 2: Blast? It was so much fun that everybody was always

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Speaker 2: because it.

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Speaker 6: Was pretty much the same exact crew, because Mandy brought

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Speaker 6: everybody back from from God.

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Speaker 7: This woman Emily Moss and.

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Speaker 2: Uh, she was great, your love interress Rachel Lee Cook.

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Speaker 7: Such a boss. It was part of she developed it.

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Speaker 7: It's part of her development deal with mar Visa from

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Speaker 7: she from She's all that and let me tell you she.

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Speaker 5: Is all that boss.

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Speaker 7: Like so much fun.

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Speaker 4: I loved Duluth, Minnesota so much. I thought it was

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Speaker 4: so fun.

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Speaker 3: Did you bring your kids? Did you go so it's

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Speaker 3: just easier?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Hell yeah?

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Speaker 7: And then did you go to.

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Speaker 3: The Did you go to the speakeasy underneath the Japanese restaurant?

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Speaker 7: No? How did I not know about that?

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Speaker 4: Maybe it doesn't exist anymore. Underneath the Japanese the one

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Speaker 4: Japanese restaurant on the main street, the one sushi restaurant,

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Speaker 4: there's a speakeasy that's opened like certain amount of times

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Speaker 4: that has like good cocktails for Duluth, but great beer.

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Speaker 4: I mean, did you go down to like the industrial

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Speaker 4: sort of district to all the breweries and ship that

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Speaker 4: was great?

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Speaker 6: There was a there's one really good restaurant right right

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Speaker 6: there in the what was it called Canal Park?

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Speaker 3: Canal Park.

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Speaker 4: See, guys here giving up for Duluth, Minnesota, and you're

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Speaker 4: from Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: That's not that far.

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Speaker 7: I don't even know, six hour drive. My sister drove

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Speaker 7: up while I was there.

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Speaker 4: Sam Paige, we are so lucky that you came on

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Speaker 4: the podcast. We are huge fans, and now I'm such

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Speaker 4: a big personal fan.

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Speaker 5: This was an unexpected delight. Yeah, this real light amazing.

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Speaker 4: I think you might be our gateway drug for like

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Speaker 4: every guest star we've ever had.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm the lucky one, guys, I'm the lucky one.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: This awesome.

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Speaker 3: My god, thank you Sam.

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Speaker 4: Beg Sam, Hey, you should just come on and co

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Speaker 4: host every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sam, Thank you so so much.

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Speaker 3: Sam, You're the ship.

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Speaker 4: Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and editor is

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Speaker 4: Vince de Johnny, with music by Chad Fisher.

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