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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: with my best friend Mike Harmon Hobo.

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Speaker 3: Right now, Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the nightcap going the way of the Chargers in

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Speaker 1: a large way. It's just twenty to say again, one

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Speaker 1: of those games where you feel like, boy, it's not

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Speaker 1: like forty to six, it's twenty to six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Herbert started out not not awful, but started out slow.

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Speaker 1: He has since now caught fire fifteen out of twenty.

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Speaker 1: I want to say he's fourteen of his last fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Throwing the football fifteen out of twenty for two to

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Speaker 1: zero six and a couple of touchdowns. Quinton Johnston three

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Speaker 1: catches for seventy one yards in a score. Keenan Allen's

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Speaker 1: got fifty four yards and a touchdown. Led mcconkeye's caught

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Speaker 1: four balls. Look this Chargers team. Look the Chargers and

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. You know two teams I picked for the

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship. Denver subb in their toe. That's fine. They

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Speaker 1: worried about that. Defense Smith not worried about that at all.

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Speaker 1: But the Chargers, clearly the early going here you can

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Speaker 1: see the influence of what Jim Harbaugh's year two is.

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Speaker 1: They haven't really run the football great, and you know

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Speaker 1: that's what they want to do. They haven't really run

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Speaker 1: the football tonight and I mean this season. But it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter because they had the addition of Keenan Allen

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Speaker 1: coming back. It's like he never left and they have

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Speaker 1: a perfect one through three receivers.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Quentin Johnson maybe not being the number

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Speaker 1: one they them to be a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: but Lad McConkie clearly is the number one. Johnson's a

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Speaker 1: great number two. Keenan Allen, the veteran he is playing,

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Speaker 1: does not have to play wide. He is a great

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Speaker 1: number three. Like this is like if you look you

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Speaker 1: if you said, hey, what's a what's a if you

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Speaker 1: could make guys out of a lad That would be, hey,

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Speaker 1: who's your number one, who's your number two? Who's your

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Speaker 1: number three? It would be how the Chargers have these

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Speaker 1: three guys and you know that they caught They've caught

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Speaker 1: eleven of the fifteen passes tonight. And this team isn't

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Speaker 1: even running on all function on all cylinders yet because

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Speaker 1: again they haven't run the football. Well, they will because

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Speaker 1: the passing game will set it up. But uh, this

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Speaker 1: is about as good as start as you can hope

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Speaker 1: for for the Charger.

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Speaker 4: It's the curiosity as we move down the schedule, right,

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Speaker 4: because if we're going to say, well, we don't think

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Speaker 4: the Raiders are good, and everybody's looking to pull out

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Speaker 4: their shows.

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Speaker 1: And best last place team and they'll be the best

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Speaker 1: last place team in the NFL this year. Okay of

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Speaker 1: the eight last place I know are deep rankings. You

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Speaker 1: got to go into the podcast. That's something you're only

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Speaker 1: getting here because you've seen the other two teams in

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Speaker 1: a row and two so far. Clearly the Raiders are better.

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Speaker 4: Well I think that, and you might be stretching, but

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Speaker 4: again the point being, you can only be the competition.

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Speaker 4: And if we're going to bury both the Chiefs and

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Speaker 4: How great are they differene the Chiefs and ra No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: But but my point being, the Chiefs right now are vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: We're now looking at them, all right, We're looking at

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Speaker 4: one of those transitional mid kind of years, and maybe

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Speaker 3: But as of right now, there's a lot of holes.

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Speaker 4: Problems there, and fifteen only fills so many of them.

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Speaker 4: Although he's going to be a thousand yard rusher at

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Speaker 4: out of all miss another guy to stretch the field.

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Speaker 4: He's got to catch of twenty four yards tonight. So

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Speaker 4: How do you cover that up and what does that

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Speaker 4: the strings a little bit. Eventually, O'maron Hampton's going to

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Speaker 4: be a force running the football. Not sure what Naji

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Speaker 1: But still a closer game than you'd expect, the Raiders

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Speaker 1: but the Raiders have the football they are driving. This

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Speaker 1: eventually people are gonna start asking all sorts of questions

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Speaker 1: about asking denty too. But hey, here we are, it's

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Speaker 1: only week two of your NFL season. Now we have

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Speaker 1: to get to this because it's I feel bad and

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Speaker 1: I feel bad for you even though you were right,

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Speaker 1: and that that's kind of how bad it is. Like

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Speaker 1: I feel bad that I was wrong. I feel worse

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Speaker 1: that you were right about this, like about it, right,

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Speaker 1: I get that I didn't want to be right about this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm feeling pretty good about this.

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Speaker 1: Wow, the Bears still suck.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know the guy as the guy on the

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Speaker 4: network who lived half his life in Chicago and has

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Speaker 4: worn these teams on his sleeve for lo these many years.

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Speaker 4: I'm a realist, right, I hope is not a strategy.

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Speaker 4: We have talked about this. Winning the off season does

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Speaker 4: no damn good in the standings. It gets guys extensions,

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Speaker 4: but without proof of concept. We've still had several assistants

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Speaker 4: last year that got disappeared, that nobody took accountability for

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Speaker 4: you hired the the big fish. That's great, and eventually

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Speaker 4: maybe it works, but Rome wasn't built in the day

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Speaker 4: as good as a Dooonsy was just asked the Jets

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Speaker 4: who were going fifteen years no playoffs now?

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Speaker 3: But that's but that's.

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Speaker 4: The thing is you're still building out a house of

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Speaker 4: sand and a bunch of the highly heralded guys. Why

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Speaker 4: I took the swipe and got the Tyler Warren comment

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Speaker 3: Is that you a chance to get Tyler Warren because

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Speaker 3: you're clearly he was gone before?

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Speaker 4: Oh sorry, Instead you take the other guy sorry soon

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Speaker 4: for that time, yes, and he can't get on the field.

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Speaker 3: Look, this is.

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Speaker 1: How this is how bad it is. Okay, yesterday obviously

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Speaker 1: the Lions. Look when we picked the games, boy, I

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Speaker 1: I told you, look, the bad time is gonna continue

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Speaker 1: for the Bears, at least this week. The Lions know

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Speaker 1: roll it up. I didn't think they'd roll it up

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Speaker 1: for the Bears, right like like the yeah, but you

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Speaker 1: saw some of the players who are like you know

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, man, you know they're You got to

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Speaker 1: be happy for a guy that gave you his all

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's kind of how it goes, right.

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Speaker 1: It's a business.

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Speaker 3: Right, But hey, if that was a slight that that

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Speaker 3: that spurred you on, awesome. Did you need to run

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Were you running up the score?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? Dan Campbell was running up the score. You see

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Speaker 1: We have to stop them. You're throwing the football on

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Speaker 1: the on the five yard line when you're up by thirty, right,

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Speaker 4: you know it was all downhill from there.

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Speaker 1: it up. But that's that's immaterial because clearly, again I

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Speaker 1: this is a blowout and it was all the way through,

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Speaker 3: Know who also isn't very good? Is Minnesota? Right?

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Speaker 1: Atlanta is just okay? And Minnesota did nothing offensively again them,

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Speaker 1: the Vikings. Hey, McCarthy's throwing touchdowns, he's running for touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks and chrisy Wentz is coming in.

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Speaker 1: But that's a big thing. Forget about the block at

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Speaker 1: most talented offense in the NFL. It's terrific. But just

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Speaker 4: I put up a couple of them, really sleep deprived

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Speaker 4: that says this doesn't work between these two guys, you know,

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Speaker 3: Like that's it.

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Speaker 1: You got to hope that Ben that this is a

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Speaker 4: This season is gonna be a long, miserable high wire act.

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Speaker 1: Here when you can't when a guy you took that

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Speaker 3: What do I win?

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Speaker 1: I'll buy you a sandwich. Sandwich So I'm sorry. I'm

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Speaker 1: was cause Baker Mayfield have to check down every single play.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he had more than four air yards

438
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Speaker 1: on a pass that got completed in the second half.

439
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Speaker 1: Every time he tried to go deep, tried to find

440
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 1: one of his receivers downfield, they were bracketed whether it

441
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 1: was Mike Evans, it didn't matter. This was a very,

442
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,640
Speaker 1: very difficult game for the Buccaneers and in the end

443
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 1: they had to rely on a guy who clearly needs

444
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 1: to get his dude right. To have an appreciation moment

445
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield for a minute. He's one of the

446
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Speaker 1: top seven or eight quarterbacks in the NFL. And I

447
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 1: know it's hard to think about that, and it's really

448
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 1: hard to see that a guy coming off the season

449
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 1: where he threw forty one touchdowns is underrated, But that's

450
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. All every conversation with the top quarterbacks in

451
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,679
Speaker 1: the game, we don't get to him. We don't get

452
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Speaker 1: to Baker Mayfield, and we should. This has been two

453
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 1: terrific years that he's had so far with Tampa. Twenty

454
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,239
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns two years ago, forty one last year. And

455
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: we'll get to the final drive that he had and

456
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 1: the excellence that he showed in getting the Tampa Bay

457
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 1: Buccaneers down the field for the game winning score.

458
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Speaker 3: But for guys like Sam.

459
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Speaker 1: Donald and Gino Smith, we say, hey, if you get

460
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: Donald in, if you can get genode, which means you

461
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 1: bounce around the league, but you eventually find the right

462
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: system to play in. Hey, you can have a decent career, right,

463
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, Hey had a great year last year after

464
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 1: bouncing around the NFL, signed a big deal with the

465
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Speaker 1: Seahawks for three years and one hundred something million. Now,

466
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Speaker 1: is he still a great quarterback? Yeah, the kind of

467
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,959
Speaker 1: mixed reviews so far, but hey, it worked out for him,

468
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: worked out for Geno Smith, right, bounce around the league

469
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 1: for almost a decade. Hey, suddenly in Seattle, a we'll

470
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Speaker 1: take a chance on you thirty years old. Guess what,

471
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 1: Gino Smith was bad? So he parlayed that into following

472
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll now to the Raiders where, hey, he's got

473
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: another decent contract, and these guys are making tons of

474
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 1: money right setting up there their families for life now

475
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, Gino and Donald, Okay, they've been okay,

476
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 1: Like Gino's been okay. Sam Darnald had a really good year.

477
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 1: But it's been one year. These guys paying comparison to

478
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Speaker 1: what Baker Mayfield has done, like he got you know,

479
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: you should call it getting bakered because this is a

480
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 1: guy that went from the number one pick in the

481
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Speaker 1: draft full of all kinds of swagger and confidence had

482
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Speaker 1: a good rookie year, not as great a second year,

483
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Speaker 1: a phenomenal twenty twenty, but then he fell off. Didn't

484
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Speaker 1: even see the end of his contract in Cleveland. So

485
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: then he goes, finds other couple of destinations, doesn't work out,

486
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Speaker 1: doesn't work out in Carolina, has to battle it out

487
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Speaker 1: with Sam Darnold, doesn't play great. There, goes and backs

488
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: up in Los Angeles for a half year. He has

489
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Speaker 1: to play a little bit and plays Okay, okay, Clearly

490
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 1: many quarterbacks can succeed in the rams off, and Sean

491
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: McVay is just that good a coach. But then he

492
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Speaker 1: jumps into ten. I'm gonna jump in there after Tom Brady.

493
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Speaker 1: You don't want to succeed Tom Brady. You don't want

494
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Speaker 1: to be that guy. But Mayfield jumps in and he

495
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,959
Speaker 1: has a Sam Darnold Gino Smith kind of first year.

496
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Speaker 3: Twenty eight touchdowns, ten picks. That's a really good year.

497
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Speaker 3: But whoa forty.

498
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Speaker 1: One touchdowns last year. They've been in the playoffs the

499
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Speaker 1: last couple of years. He is a quarterback that makes

500
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Speaker 1: the guys around him better.

501
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:22,479
Speaker 3: He came in.

502
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Speaker 1: It was one set of receivers. It was Mike Evans

503
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Speaker 1: who was younger and Chris Godwin, how do you make

504
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: it work? Okay, now it's an older Mike Evans who

505
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: clearly is getting towards the end. Chris Godwin's been hurt

506
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: in and out. Now Egbuka is in who maybe is

507
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: the next great receiver, but he's making it work with

508
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 1: him whoever the weapons have been there. He's been able

509
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Speaker 1: to make it work with Bucky Irving out of the

510
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: backfield tonight for twenty five completions.

511
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Speaker 3: Mayfield has made.

512
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Speaker 1: It work with whoever he has had to work with,

513
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: because guys spent last year injured and not in the lineup,

514
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: and still he throws for forty one touchdowns. Mayfield's one

515
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: of those guys, the rare guy's NFL that makes his

516
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: teammates and its weapons better. And he's done that, and

517
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: he did it tonight. You look at the final drive

518
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: against against the Texans defense, where all they were giving

519
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: him was the underneath stuff. Couldn't get downfield. Many quarterbacks,

520
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks, would have panicked trying to force the ball

521
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: downfield where it wasn't working. But he knew he had

522
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: enough time. He knew he could get the team down

523
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: the field. And what do they do. They get into

524
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Speaker 1: touchdown position with nine seconds left to go, two plays

525
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: to get in from the two yard line. It's exactly

526
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: where you want. Now.

527
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Speaker 3: You could argue and say, well.

528
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Speaker 1: They maybe should have taken one other time out because

529
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: they had two timeouts left, you're only gonna use one.

530
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Speaker 1: Maybe you could have had one more play, but it

531
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Speaker 1: didn't matter because they had two plays to get in

532
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Speaker 1: from the two yard line. They got in. Mayfield never

533
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: rushed it, never throw downfield, never tried to force the

534
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Speaker 1: ball in, didn't turn it over, had the big scramble

535
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Speaker 1: for fifteen yards on fourth down, and knew that I

536
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Speaker 1: can get the ball in the hands of my running

537
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Speaker 1: back who won on one with the linebackers. That's gonna

538
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Speaker 1: be the That's the matchup we want because, as I

539
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: said about the Texans, their defensive line is great, their

540
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: secondary is terrific. Linebackers not so much. Where did Baker

541
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Speaker 1: Mayfield go trying to get down the field. Let's get

542
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Speaker 1: you one all of the linebackers, because we know that's

543
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: where we can make our plan. And I can't believe

544
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: the Texans never adjusted to be able to say, hey,

545
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna take that away from you put a spy

546
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: on Irving where they actually could tackle him because they couldn't.

547
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Speaker 1: But Mayfield running that team, that's exactly what you want

548
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 1: the elite quarterbacks to do. You have confidence watching Baker Mayfield.

549
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: You don't have watching two thirds or three quarters the

550
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks in the NFL. It's time he gets his

551
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Speaker 1: due as being one of the elite quarterbacks in the NFL,

552
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Speaker 1: only because he had such a big, long journey to

553
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Speaker 1: get there. It's yeah, he's still Baker Mayfield. No, he

554
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: found the right system, the right personnel. He is a

555
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: top seven quarterback in the NFL.

556
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Speaker 4: Now, as the late great Iron Chic said so many times,

557
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: sometimes you need to get humbled. I'll leave out all

558
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Speaker 4: the expletives for FCC complete.

559
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Speaker 2: Well.

560
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Speaker 4: I mean, for a time he did act like there's

561
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Speaker 4: no question about it, and he would have said blank

562
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Speaker 4: him and whatever else.

563
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Speaker 3: But but go back to his time in Cleveland.

564
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: Came in the big hero coming out of college, great expectations,

565
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: ad organization, bought into some of the stuff, fought with

566
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Speaker 4: a lot of media members, yourself, Colin Coward, legendary stuff

567
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 4: with pretty much everybody I think at Fox Sports.

568
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 3: Won that war I won that war. I won that war.

569
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Speaker 4: So just but all of it to say. But it

570
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 4: took a while, right, you talk about the Carolina stuff. Helly,

571
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 4: he showed up with the Rams, he had one practice

572
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: before he played it. He looked at him, going, the

573
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 4: skills are still there. But sometimes you need to get reinvented.

574
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 4: You need to go in and recognize what you need

575
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 4: to change about yourself and adapt. And this is for

576
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 4: all of us life lessons, relationship work, whatever. But he

577
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 4: goes and he's now gotten two guys head coaching jobs

578
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 4: back to back.

579
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Speaker 1: He's getting guys hired, not fired, heired. Hey, he got

580
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: guys fired with the Browns and hired with the Bucket

581
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Fair.

582
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Speaker 4: Most of those guys with the Browns helped get themselves fired.

583
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: But he certainly, oh yeah, it's not like it's like

584
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 3: they were already on that path. Yeah, pushed as it were.

585
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 4: In this case, you're looking about Canalis down to Carolina

586
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 4: and now Liam Cohen with the Jaguars. But opportunity, I mean,

587
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: you look at this game right off the jump, the

588
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 4: first quarter, you get you got a ten to seven

589
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 4: game for Houston, and then the Tampa Bay defense takes

590
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 4: over on that side. But that final drive just methodically

591
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 4: going down a nine or eleven play drive to finish

592
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 4: things off, and there's there's no hurry to it, No

593
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 4: Bucky Irving. Look, you're not tackling him, you're not arm

594
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 4: tackling him, right, You're not gonna bump him off the

595
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 4: spot and think he's gonna fall down. And that's what

596
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 4: you saw them doing, like little waves Adams like he's

597
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: running through that, or the I'm gonna try to shoulder

598
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 4: tackle you a little bit like, No, he's just bouncing off, right,

599
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 4: he's got the base and he's still working through it.

600
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 4: So you watched him with yards after catch, just play

601
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 4: after play. But no, no, hurried, no, because those kind

602
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 4: of drives, when you start talking about eleven play drives,

603
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: what do you normally get. You're gonna get a you're

604
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 4: gonna get penalty somewhere along the way. You're gonna have

605
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 4: a false start, you're gonna have a holding penalty, You're

606
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: gonna have all of that. No that they played very

607
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 4: well and reasoned and coordinated football, and Baker was their

608
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: leader in that moment. I mean, it was a huge

609
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 4: shining thing for him on a big stage heading into

610
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 4: this finale of Week two. You know, we talk about confidence, right,

611
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 4: like the confidence level you have. How much confidence do

612
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: you have in players that they're gonna get something done

613
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,239
Speaker 4: or they're gonna win. Like Baker Mayfield now final two

614
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: minutes of a game or in a big game, like.

615
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: He just has that or about him that he's gonna

616
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: find a way to get it done, whether it's I

617
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: run for a couple of yards, I game managed the

618
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: ball down the field, we run it in, or hey,

619
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Speaker 1: on my right arm, we're going downfield. I'm going to Evans,

620
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to Eggot.

621
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Speaker 4: But he took those shots, but he didn't put it

622
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 4: in harm's way, which is a in stark contrast to

623
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 4: once upon a time I could throw the football over

624
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: a mountain where I can throw it through the defender

625
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 4: and into your arms. Because he had a shot with

626
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 4: a and it fell harmlessly. Yeah, and a shot with Evans,

627
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: but it falls harmlessly and complete live to see another play,

628
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 4: and you know, and maybe and I'm willing to throw

629
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: this out there for him though not this as a caveat,

630
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 4: but just getting the quarterback gig with Tampa. You're kind

631
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 4: of off the NFL map a little bit right when

632
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: he number one pick with the Cleveland Browns. You're a

633
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: number one pick, you come out. All you do is

634
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 4: talk talk talk talk talk. Okay, you're on TV a lot. Yeah, okay,

635
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 4: you made yourself a target and you deal with a

636
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: lot of other crap in addition to just being the

637
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: starting quarterback. Right, Like he was getting involved in guy's

638
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: contract negotiation, like Duke Johnson, Right, it was, hey, we

639
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: do you guys who want to be a dud dude,

640
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: don't get involved in my contract. And he goes as

641
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 4: soon as you start talking about someone else's wont but

642
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 4: unless you're advocating for them to get more money.

643
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: But he gets off the radar in Carolina, but still

644
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: a little bit front page because oh it's him and Darnold.

645
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: But then he's a backup and then he takes over

646
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: in Tampa and it's okay, you can figure things out

647
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: outside of the spotlight. And still in Tampa, he's outside

648
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: of the spotlight because it's not going to be where

649
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: we talk about him like we talk about the Steelers

650
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: or the Cowboys or the Chiefs or the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Like he's able to do that.

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Speaker 1: I think being outside of the outside of the spotlight

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Speaker 1: helped him not only concentrate on football but also be

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Speaker 1: able to become the best version of himself as a quarterback. Right,

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Speaker 1: No one's worried about commercials from You're not talking about

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Speaker 1: all these media inquiries and everything else that's out the window.

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Speaker 1: But hey, being here and being able to concentrate just

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Speaker 1: on football, like that's a huge thing for him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the other part is, you know, you

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Speaker 4: look at his off field, right, the family and all

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Speaker 4: of that grounding you and you mature. Obviously, you come

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Speaker 4: into the league, you're number one pick and everybody wants

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Speaker 4: a piece of you, and you have a bunch of

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Speaker 4: national endorsement deals or whatever. I mean again, sometimes you

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Speaker 4: need to be humbled. And in Tampa you had the

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Speaker 4: best of situation. You had a pretty good roster, but

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Speaker 4: you're replacing Tom Brady. So if you fail, it's like, ah, well,

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Speaker 4: I mean, who replaces Tom Brady? But if you succeed,

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Speaker 4: it's like, all right, you're now the guy, and you

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Speaker 4: can get a little bit of love and you get

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Speaker 4: to wear those cool creamsicle jerseys once in a while.

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Speaker 4: And today he also had a nice encounter with Everybody's

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Speaker 4: greatest agitator Chauncey CJ. Gardner Johnson, who came up and

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Speaker 4: tried to talk some smack after his fifteen yard run

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Speaker 4: where he did the little summersault and it was slow

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Speaker 4: to get up. Johnson came over to say something. Baker

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Speaker 4: clapped back and eventually drove them down for the game.

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Speaker 1: Winner exit out about a Fresco exit Swallen Dome, The

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike har Chauncey.

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Speaker 4: Chauncey was the name of that bear in that horror

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Speaker 4: movie that came out last year that was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Bear.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no. It was what the hell

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Speaker 3: was it? The bear Whinny the poop, I'll remember it.

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Speaker 3: The Bear with Jeremy Allen White. No, no, no no.

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Speaker 3: It was literally like a no no no. It was

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Speaker 3: like a possessed little bear. Crazy bear, no lunatic bear.

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Speaker 3: It was Chauncey Bear.

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Speaker 4: It was the film Imaginary came out last year, really

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Speaker 4: good horror movie was the Bear?

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Speaker 3: Real? No, it was a little stuff Teddy Bear.

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Speaker 1: Oh so it was like Ted. It's like Ted becoming

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Speaker 1: Well he wasn't a smart ass like Ded. I tell you,

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Speaker 1: I gotta come out here.

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Speaker 3: I gotta go watch that. Let's go watch law.

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Speaker 2: In order, be sure to catch live editions of The

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Speaker 2: Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm

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Speaker 2: Eastern seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: App Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You know, every time you think the Chargers are going

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Speaker 1: to win this game now, they keep giving it back

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Speaker 1: to the Raiders and giving them a chance to get

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Speaker 1: back in it. The Chargers were a chance to kill

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Speaker 1: the clock and win the game. A Murray and Hampton fumbles,

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Speaker 1: Raiders recover. However, Gino Smith just throws it out of

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Speaker 1: bounds by about fifteen yards on a fourth on fourth

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Speaker 1: and five.

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Speaker 3: Like, dude, throw it up to the middle of the

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Speaker 3: field or something.

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Speaker 1: He throws it out about like, dude, there's three minutes left,

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Speaker 1: you're down by eleven.

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Speaker 3: Throw the football so you can catch it. What are

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Speaker 3: you doing? What is wrong with you? I get it.

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Speaker 4: Derwin James has been an absolute man throwing four picks.

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Speaker 4: You are gonna yell at me for throwing three. I

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Speaker 4: am not throwing four. I showed you the graphic right

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Speaker 4: right after the turnover at the previous turnover on downs

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Speaker 4: before the Chargers were so generous to give the ball back.

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Speaker 4: They showed the graphic that on throws of over ten yards,

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Speaker 4: Gino was over ten with three picks on the night. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and then they get the ball back and the most

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Speaker 4: acid nine run of sequences. Now, Derwin James did a

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Speaker 4: great job taking away brock Bauers over the course of

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Speaker 4: the night. He was back there in the end zone

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Speaker 4: for the tip against Jacoby Myers to get the turnover

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Speaker 4: in the end zone for Gino's third interception of the night.

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Speaker 4: But you could, you could find someone else. You got

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Speaker 4: other receivers running patterns. You're running for your life, and

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Speaker 4: then you throw the ball woefully out of bounds, like

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Speaker 4: what are we doing? You might as well throw it

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Speaker 4: up for grabs fifty yards downfield and maybe someone you

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Speaker 4: make a catch, you get a pass interference, or it's

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Speaker 4: a punt.

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Speaker 1: Did he did he make a business decision to throw

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Speaker 1: it out of it instead of getting that fourth pick?

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no no er and taking a hit.

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Speaker 1: Now, speaking of taking an hour, right, this gets us

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Speaker 1: to something that happened a few minutes ago in the game.

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Speaker 1: But again, still twenty to nine lead. A little over

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Speaker 1: three minutes left to go end of the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: Tare Tart, who had a pretty interesting week one in

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Speaker 1: the day, he did slat late hits Geno Smith, like

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Speaker 1: two steps after Gino gets the ball, he takes a

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Speaker 1: couple of steps pushes him down right. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: a late hit not called okay yesterday which we all

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Speaker 1: saw the end of the Chiefs game against the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: a big third and fourteen or third nineteen for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes throws incomplete. Eagles defender comes in barely gets a

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Speaker 1: hand on the upper part of Mahomes's helmet. Mahomes has

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Speaker 1: already turned his helmet away. I don't know they really

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Speaker 1: touched him. But they throw that flag and it's fifteen

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Speaker 1: yards and a first down for the Chiefs and they

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Speaker 1: wind up getting a score and staying in the game. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now again you sit here and go, no, no, they

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Speaker 1: don't do it for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 1: No, they absolutely referees throw the flag for the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: and Mahomes whenever they can. It's not that you couldn't

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Speaker 1: call a roughing the passer call on that play with

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Speaker 1: the Eagles because technically, okay, his hand brushed by the

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Speaker 1: brushed by his helmet, but Mahomes had already turned his

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Speaker 1: head away. But to the extent that the officials will

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Speaker 1: go to throw the flag in support of the chiefs

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Speaker 1: on plays like that, and Mahomes is way different than

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Speaker 1: anything else you see in the NFL. That should have

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Speaker 1: been an easy flag we saw at the end of

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Speaker 1: the third quarter instead, Yeah, no, I didn't see it.

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Speaker 1: But when Mahomes is involved, Oh no, we'll make sure

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Speaker 1: to throw that flag. And it always happens. It still happens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still surprised going back to week one that

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Speaker 4: even though it's not written in the rule book that

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Speaker 4: Tart wasn't thrown out for that shot to Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 4: cause it doesn't say in the rules it has to

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Speaker 4: be a close hand to the face or to the

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Speaker 4: helmet or whatever. But all of that, yeah, it's certainly

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Speaker 4: superstar calls. And then you just try to put him

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Speaker 4: in gradients or tiering like you do with your fantasy rankings.

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Speaker 4: All right, Patrick Mahomes is going to get this call.

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Speaker 4: Then we get to Josh Allen and La Marjak. But

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Speaker 4: by the way, Josh Allen broke his nose and gets

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Speaker 4: back in the game. How about that, Let's go. But

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Speaker 4: you've got that next level of quarterbacks, and then you

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Speaker 4: go all the way down to guys like I don't know,

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Speaker 4: justin Fields, who's never.

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Speaker 3: Going to get a call? Oh no, never, no, never.

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Speaker 4: Gavin Williams through this point in his two years, he's

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Speaker 4: not getting many.

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Speaker 3: Of those calls.

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Speaker 4: After the fact, right, you've got a gradient I think

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Speaker 4: for all of those and even the most ardent supporter

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Speaker 4: of the Chiefs, and we've got plenty of him in

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Speaker 4: our media circus, would have to recognize at times you're

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Speaker 4: the beneficiary of such things because you know what, it's

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Speaker 4: good for business.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, man, I mean you can't sit

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Speaker 1: here and say, oh no, no, the Chiefs don't get

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Speaker 1: the calls like that. When I saw that happened, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you've got to be kidding me that they're they're giving

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Speaker 1: them a first down. It's fourth and nineteen. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna give them that one again. Not that you

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Speaker 1: couldn't go, but the lengths they go to to make that,

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Speaker 1: those calls for the Chiefs, that's really what you go

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Speaker 1: out to.

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Speaker 3: You know what. They still lost by exit up about

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Speaker 3: a Fresco? About you want to talk about that one

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Speaker 3: two minute warning in Vegas?

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, Big Takes on Monday Night Football

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Speaker 3: Keep it right here Jason and Mike fox Grader suck