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Speaker 1: But pat show, I think, I mean, we have a

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Speaker 1: don't We're not gonna wait for Evan to come in

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Speaker 1: on the second hour. We're just going to tell you

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Speaker 1: right now. David Andrews out at practice, was actually out

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Speaker 1: But the fact that he was out there, based on

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Speaker 1: what Ian Rapperport tweeted after the game that he had

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Speaker 1: suffered a serious thigh injury that was thought to be

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Speaker 1: that it's not a season eating injury. It's not a

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Speaker 1: broken femur. As we were kind of speculating a little bit.

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Speaker 1: What other thigh injury right would end your season. It's

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Speaker 1: the bruise Drews broke his thigh. We would have heard

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Speaker 1: mean Scott Zolac, we should probably add that layer to it.

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Speaker 1: Scott Zolac called it a bad report yesterday on his

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. So he wouldn't even Zoe wouldn't even rule

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Speaker 1: And this is the same thing we've seen since Week one.

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Speaker 1: off at dawn Off at John's point, was just that

426
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Speaker 1: it seems like Patricia's just obsessed with playing the odds

427
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Speaker 1: and Ben don't break and not being aggressive and send

428
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Speaker 1: in three guys and sending two guys and you know,

429
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 1: just waiting for the other team to screw up, and

430
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: certainly it worked a lot. Super Bowl forty nine coming

431
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 1: as an example, right at the very end, but overall,

432
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 1: there were certain times when it didn't work, and then

433
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're getting lit up by a

434
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: quarterback that you never expect to light you up. I mean,

435
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: that happened, you know, a number of times. So I

436
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: get John's point. I also just to say, though, I

437
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: don't feel like mat Patricia was put in a position

438
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 1: to succeed this year, and the two things that he's

439
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 1: been charged with are the two things that are getting

440
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: overwhelmed right now, the overall offensive coordination and the offensive line.

441
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Speaker 1: So I mean, I think most people are saying, you know,

442
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: as we talked about, get him some help at something.

443
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: I mean, at some point do you just take the

444
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: offensive line and way do you bring an offensive line

445
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Speaker 1: coach in the off season. I don't want to get

446
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves into the off season already, but it's

447
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot on his plate, and I get everything

448
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Speaker 1: that John said, but I also, you know, I do

449
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 1: have a feeling of what did you think was going

450
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: to happen? Did you think that all of a sudden

451
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: he was just You're gonna unleash this creative And I

452
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: think that's the biggest issue, like the biggest issue with

453
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Speaker 1: the offense. Is is the coaching, you know, like in

454
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: all of that. But I agree with Mike. It's not

455
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia's fault that he was asked to do this.

456
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: It's Bills and Bill said told us many times during

457
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Speaker 1: the summer, this is on me. Blame me if it

458
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,479
Speaker 1: doesn't go well. This is what everybody talked about all

459
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Speaker 1: spring and summer. And now it's been ten games of

460
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: nothing offensively right. Can't find the stride, can't find consistency,

461
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: and it's not getting and it's not getting better. I

462
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 1: know there are elements that I like I said, I

463
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Speaker 1: think there's like individual things like we talked about with

464
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Speaker 1: some of those different formations that led to some some

465
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: chunk plays. There are little things that are you know,

466
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: they're improved, but it just covers up another shortcoming to me,

467
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 1: like with the penalties and the negative plays, and now

468
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 1: they can't they can't run the ball. Suddenly they can't.

469
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: I mean Romadre Stevenson averaging less than two yards of

470
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: garry right in that game, you get Damien Harris like

471
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: bouncing to the outside, like you know, catching them two

472
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: big runs down. Yeah, and even with those two big

473
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Speaker 1: it's like no I'm not taking away the already in

474
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 1: the twenty two count those they averaged less than four

475
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: yards to carry in the game. Yeah, with a thirty

476
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: and twenty two yard run. I just this was the

477
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: first time that they didn't have like great feel position,

478
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: I would say, and they were able to move the

479
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: ball down the field. And then I just don't know

480
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: why I keep stalling out at the red zone. It's

481
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: like for the first time they are getting aunt moved

482
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: it that far. Like yeah, well, and I thought that

483
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: was interesting today from from Bill's press conference that we

484
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: didn't take a lot. But Mike Reas you know, pointedly

485
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: asked him, you know, a good red zone offense, what

486
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Speaker 1: do you see? Um? Balance? Balance? That was it. You know,

487
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: you can run the ball, you can throw the ball

488
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Speaker 1: to the multiple people. I just I don't know. I

489
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Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. I know what Mike was getting

490
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,959
Speaker 1: at because they had been terrible. The question was pointed,

491
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Speaker 1: you know, and then it's so then the question is,

492
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: so do you guys You guys don't really have balance,

493
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Speaker 1: And I mean, I think that's fair. I don't think

494
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 1: they do either thing. Well, like it's not like they

495
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: can only do one thing when they get down there,

496
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Speaker 1: and that's why they started. They can't even got a

497
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Speaker 1: one thing. They don't have a thing. Last year you

498
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: had Hunter Henry, you know, well last year I think

499
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: they had Damien Harris fifteen rushing touchdown. Yeah, yeah, you know,

500
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: not good, not good. Well, but balance in the red

501
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: zone is what Bill says is the key to scoring

502
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. Five five pats five hundred is

503
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Speaker 1: the number to give us a call. Here full of

504
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: lines are ope, and we got a bunch of emails

505
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: coming in. We'll get to those in a little bit, though.

506
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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm not ready. Don't you read ready?

507
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: Should I read them already? We're not ready yet. I

508
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: haven't eaten yet. Did we want to flirt a little

509
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: bit with Minnesota? Are we flirting? If you're going to

510
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: do that, well, I don't know if I have I

511
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: don't know if I have my game anymore. So. I

512
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting that um Bill mentioned today that

513
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: they started looking at some Viking stuff during the by

514
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Speaker 1: just because they knew this week was going to be

515
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: a short week. Yeah, it seems like it's all on today,

516
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: Bill said, today's there, they're busy day of install but um,

517
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Speaker 1: you know before before we get into Minnesota, though, I

518
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: got to point out right now, it is the last

519
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: time the Patriots played on Thanksgiving. You know when that

520
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: was tomorrow? What was I love ten years ago, ten

521
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: years ago, twenty and twelve in November, and uh it

522
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: was also the anniversary today A big play. Yeah. I

523
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: asked Matt Morrell to uh to pull to pull some

524
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: sound for us, so you know, to remember the great

525
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: butt fumble play. So ten year anniversary, I'll never forget

526
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: where I was. Everyone does. Yeah, Matt, oh years ago

527
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: we talked to Tom Moore than at Indianapolis the offensive pool.

528
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: Maybe you gotta busted play here. And then then Sanches

529
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: gets hit. The ball is loose and it's alive. I

530
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: have never seen this before in my life. Watch this.

531
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: Vince will Fork is gonna throw Brandon Moore back into

532
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Speaker 1: his quarterback. He's gonna fumble a football. This is what

533
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: Reggie White used to do to people. Fork lift him

534
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: and just lift him off the ground. Mark Sanchez not

535
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Speaker 1: expecting it, and it was the backside of Brandon Moore

536
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Speaker 1: to knock the ball out. Well, there it is were

537
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: you we were at that one, Paul was That's so

538
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: when you were I was up in the No that

539
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: was we were doing pre impost game at the time,

540
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: and I was up in one of the conference rooms

541
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Speaker 1: watching Yeah, Andy, and I just sitting there saying, I

542
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: can't I can't believe I'm wasting my Thanksgiving night on

543
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: this game. It's like eight hundred to nothing, which and

544
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: like that wasn't even like alone is the terrible plays everything.

545
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: They scored three touchdowns in fifty six seconds, So I

546
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: believe it was the butt fumble followed by who's the gentleman,

547
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: who's the Jag running back Joe McKnight. I want to

548
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: say fumbled, the kick returned on the writing and sewing

549
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: kickoff Edelman returned it for a touchdown, and then I

550
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: believe they went three and out in the Patriots through

551
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: a little swing pass to Shane Vereen for like one

552
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: hundred and eleven yard touchdown. It's like an eighty something

553
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: yard touchdown. There's good three touchdowns in fifty six seconds.

554
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: Three comedy of arras, comedy of as. I would love

555
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: to see that now. I mean, they're gonna they could

556
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: use they could use a couple of plays like that.

557
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: Let's go to William and film right now, checking in says, hey, William,

558
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: what's going on? What's going on? Pretty good? Pretty good? Okay?

559
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: All right, Um so I'll say, what a game? Jeezus?

560
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: Another close another close one? Gee? Um at one at

561
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: how I said at one point, basically, I just want

562
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: to say that this team is going to get exposed

563
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: and need of me. Y'all them pictures and filter. You're

564
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: not gonna be laughing telling me that it's not gonna

565
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: be the how long you think you're gonna keep this up?

566
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: The team is going to get exposed more than ever.

567
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: All right, it's bad enough you can't really push the

568
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: ball down the field or anything. The defense gonna get

569
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: tired out. You know what I mean. If you remember

570
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: how the Jaguars was at one one time they had

571
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: exposive defense. The offense was all right when they had

572
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles and whatnot, but look what happened somewhere later?

573
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: They got tired. The defense can't keep it up forever.

574
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: So at some point, you know what I mean. I'm

575
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: just I'm just going in, like you know my effectation.

576
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: I don't have enough for this team. I didn't have

577
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: enough when the season and start, you know, when they

578
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: was putting the roster together and knowing that, I was

579
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: just there's no way I'm going to It's enough for

580
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: I see about this team. It's like, I'm just we're playing.

581
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 1: Every time we play a team and we we family

582
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: get to, we get to, we get through. Okay, we're

583
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: gonna get disposed at some point, ladies and gentlemen, so

584
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna see. If it's funny, then ye have a

585
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: good one. Yo. Thanks. Sounded ominous, kind of sound like

586
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: a warning is warning y'all be careful. I just would

587
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: say the only only, my only account of that is

588
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: I would take Jack Jacksonville season. I would take that

589
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat, like that team was missed, referees call

590
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: away from going to the super Bowl. R Miles Jack

591
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: picks up that fumble and runs it back for a touchdown.

592
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: That game's over. Yeah, I mean, you know, losing in

593
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: the conference championship game right now, you know people wouldn't

594
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: sign up for our season like that. I would take that.

595
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: I want to get into the class. But I get

596
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: his point, and I feel, yes, I get his point.

597
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: That's why during the Jets game, especially with those possessions

598
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: as we were coming down in the fourth quarter, it

599
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh, boy, don't fail us now, guys, don't

600
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: fail us now, because it just felt like, and I

601
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: mean I said it a couple of times, I felt like,

602
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: here comes a shot to Garrett Wilson, you know, and

603
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: that was what that game hung on. And so you know,

604
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: when I think we're none of us are any illusion

605
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: of what happens if the defense comes out with a

606
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: slow start against the next you know, against Minnesota, against Buffalo,

607
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, against these teams, a fourteen nothing hole. It's

608
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you're staring up up the top of the

609
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 1: mountain right there. Um. But I get the point. Um,

610
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, I just I just wonder if Minnesota can

611
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: do it, you know. And that's what we're kind of

612
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: getting into today with the with the Vikings. And you know,

613
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: I pulled a couple interesting stats I thought, and I

614
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: just want to throw this, did you know, if not

615
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: not so much a stat as much as um, you know,

616
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: some of the comparisons. I mean, and obviously no last

617
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: week is last week, but you know, just as far

618
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: as like the comparisons between the two offenses, I mean,

619
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: they were both completely dreadful last year. Um, but you know,

620
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: looking at the Vikings, seeing Justin Jefferson, a player that

621
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Fred tak about that, everybody that calls in here, anyone

622
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: if you want Jefsin Jefferson on the Patriots, I mean,

623
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: of course, right Bill, Bill called what he's done so

624
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: far historic history. I think anybody here would probably take

625
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook. I mean maybe not over Vermond er Stevenson,

626
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: but but somewhere around there, right, Like, I mean, yeah,

627
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean this there's an argument to be made. Adam Feeling.

628
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,239
Speaker 1: Is anybody taking I mean, you're taking him to love

629
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: him as much, but he should probably take him over

630
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: Baby just about anybody but Jacobe Myers, right like, yeah,

631
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, would you take Hawkinson over Hunter Henry and

632
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: John H. Smith? Yeah? Probably? So what's the disconnect? Like,

633
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: because I feel like, why don't they score? What we're

634
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: looking at right now is the perfect scenario for the

635
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: Patriots with mac Jones, Because everybody compares Kirk Cousins to

636
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Oh you know, he's Kirk Cousins. So all right,

637
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: this is mac Jones. Is this what we're hoping for?

638
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: Because it's not that great, you know, I mean, agreeing

639
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: people this all year. So what's the disconnect in Minnesota,

640
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: and is the problem the quarterback? And are we stupid

641
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: to think that if we just get a Justin Jefferson

642
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones, that we're gonna be a top five

643
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: offense in the league. Yeah, you will be a top

644
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: five offense if the quarterback becomes a top five quarterback. Yep.

645
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: And I'm not dismissing that from Mac Jones. If the

646
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: pass protection improves and all that stuff and he gets

647
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: a structure around him, maybe he has Maybe he has

648
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: that in him. But that's the way why he looked

649
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: at Alabama. He had everything that he needed. He had

650
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: a great line, great talent around him, like it was

651
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: a really everything was perfect. Yeah, But I mean that

652
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: that just doesn't happen in the NFL, though, Like you're

653
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: just never going to go into an NFL game and

654
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: have way more talent than I mean, maybe playing like

655
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: the Jags or something back in the day, but everybody

656
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: not in real games, Like you're not going to run

657
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 1: roughly because you're so much more talented than everybody you play, Right.

658
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you probably look at Minnesota

659
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: and I'm sure there are plenty of callers that call

660
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: in here that would just you know, all day would

661
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: tell you how much more talented Minnesota is than the Patriots,

662
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: and they're probably right. I just the question though, the

663
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: other question, not comparing to the Patriots is just thirteenth

664
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: in points, eighteenth in yards, nineteenth in Dvoa. You know, like,

665
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: what what's the disconnect? You know? Is is it all

666
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: on Cousins? Is that? I think Cousins is average, But

667
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: I also think the only special player is Justin Jefferson,

668
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: And it's hard to just like, I don't think they

669
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: have a great offensive line. I don't think Adam Feelin's

670
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: the same guy. I don't think he's the same player.

671
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: You know, maybe with Hawkinson, maybe he's better than Irf Smith,

672
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: so maybe they can get to a better level. They

673
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: don't run the ball great. I mean, Delvid Cook is

674
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: a big play kind of running back who I really like.

675
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: But I don't think they consistently run the ball great.

676
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: Their numbers aren't aren't great. I don't know. Maybe it

677
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: is all about the offensive line. Maybe that's it's simple,

678
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: simple solution. But I think that if you had, you know,

679
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: a better quarterback in place there in Minnesota, I think

680
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: the offense would be better Dad, you mentioned the word explosive.

681
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: That's something that stood out to me the last couple

682
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: of days. Bill, the guys talking yesterday, explosive, explosive, explosive.

683
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: It seems like taking away the big plays, it's going

684
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: to be a big priority this week. I mean, he

685
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: talked about justin Jefferson, some of the plays. He's as

686
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: covered as you can possibly cover somebody, and he's still

687
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: making plays. Um. But I think, especially when you talk

688
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: about that eighty one was eighty one yards, I think

689
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook ran against Buffalo that that got them back

690
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: into the game untouched. It looked like, I mean, shot

691
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: like a rocket up the sideline. But you know, that's

692
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: I think the kind of things that I mean, clearly

693
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots aren't can't handle that. If they're giving up

694
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: big plays, big scores, getting in holes with you know,

695
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: no time involved, it's it's it's not not a good situation.

696
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: My one fear in this game is just the fatigue factor.

697
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: And you know, a short week, you got to travel.

698
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: I think Thursday night games for the road team are tough,

699
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: and I think when you add in the fact that

700
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: it's a team that they are overly familiar with, you

701
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: know that. That's my one fear. I think that this

702
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: was a regular week, I i'd really be bullish. I'm

703
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: picking the Patriots. I'll tell you now where we'll do

704
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: our picks tomorrow. I'm I'm picking the Patriots to win

705
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: this game, and I don't I would not consider it

706
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: an upset if the Patriots winning. I'm like, I was

707
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: a little bit obviously coming off the Vikings emotional win

708
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: over the Bills, I was a little bit surprised that

709
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: they lost the way they did against the Cowboys. I mean,

710
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: not as not surprised that they lost, but forty to three,

711
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: Like yeah, seven sacks. I mean, it's it's it's remarkable.

712
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: Like I said before, like what you know, I mean,

713
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make the comparison, but just you know,

714
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: based on what they did, I mean, both teams put

715
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: up three points. Patriots had two ninety seven, the Vikings

716
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: had one eighty three. Patriots are four for fifteen on

717
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: third down, the Vikings were one for eleven. Uh, none

718
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: of the team. The Patriots are over two in the

719
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: red zone, Vikings world for on turnovers they had seven

720
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: set they just won on the first drive, but it

721
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: was the pressure, I think, and just the losing their

722
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: left hand defense is not very good. Michael Parsons is no,

723
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: the Vikings defense, it's not very good. I mean statistically

724
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: there you know, you know Bill was raving about the

725
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: secondary they had thirty first in the league. See, these

726
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: are the things that like vone Fredzierry gets mad at

727
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: me for pointing out, you know, when he talks about

728
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: when you play like Green Bay and you held him

729
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: to quote held him to twenty seven, but he ignores

730
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: the fact that they average eighteen. Do you know what

731
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean? Yea, Like those are the kinds of things

732
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: this is. This is a defense to This is a

733
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: get right week for the Patriots offense. And I know

734
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: that saying a lot. I know it's a dangerous, dangerous

735
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: assumption I'm making and maybe people will be, you know,

736
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: making fun of me Thursday night on the postgame show

737
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: when they go out and score ten more points. But no,

738
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: but I think, but at least the glimpse of Mac

739
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: Jones kind of looking like twenty twenty one Mac Jones

740
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: in this game, you know, like I'm a little bit

741
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: more willing to say that that maybe they will be

742
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: able to execute those kind of you know, schemes and

743
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: short passing game and all those things that he's good.

744
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: I just like hearing Paul say how their secondary isn't

745
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: that great or their defense isn't that great. It's like

746
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see, like how they were able to

747
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: like fool, I guess Josh Allen didn't he have two

748
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: interceptions in that game? Or they were they with thirty

749
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: whatever points? Like true? You know, like they can't stop

750
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: they can't stop anybody. I mean, you can get ten rivers,

751
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: will you know, always be the equalizer. But they didn't

752
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: slow down Buffalo's offense at all in that game. It

753
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: feels like we're their trap game. It wasn't for forty

754
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: if they hadn't just lost forty to three. Yeah, see,

755
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: I think that works for the Patriots advantage. I think

756
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: they would shook. I mean, you lose forty to three

757
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: at home, it's absolutely time to put it behind you,

758
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: either with a quick turnaround. And people have been calling

759
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: them kind of frauds all year or so now they're

760
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: like they were right about us year. I mean, I'll

761
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: just end to my left, we'll go. This is this

762
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: is my favorite stat for the Vikings, and I know,

763
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: everybody's like, Oh, he's just trolling. He's trolling. I don't

764
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: do that. I'm not. I just I deal in what

765
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: I think. Pause the receipts. I love it. But this

766
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: is the only team in the history of the NFL

767
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: that's kind of a long time, that has ever had

768
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: an eight and two record or better and been outscored.

769
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: It's the only time ever because that's happen. They've They've

770
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: won eighty percent of their games and have been outscored.

771
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of weird because I think if if

772
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 1: a team like the Patriots were doing that and didn't

773
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: have the elite talent, you'd be kind of like, this

774
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: is all smoke and mirrors. This is when we're doing

775
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: around here to our own team, right like people are

776
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: doing it to the Patriots, and rightly so. Like three

777
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks, they've beaten so of the Vikings, they've beaten

778
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: a lot of backup quarterbacks. They're beating a lot of

779
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: teams that are and that They've had a lot of

780
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: close games against bad teams that could have gone either way,

781
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: like the Commanders one. Actually, I honestly thought that Taylor

782
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: Honeke was going to pull that one out. Yeah, I

783
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: mean it's easier, it's easier to kind of not believe

784
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: that narrative because you've got talent, like you know, you've

785
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: got Justin Jefferson like he's doing the greedy like you

786
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: feel great. But at the same time, but that's probably

787
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: the most every probably the best win. And now what

788
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: is green Bay? There were three and seventeen, you know,

789
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: like everybody looked at them. Wow, they blew doors off

790
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: of Green Bay in week one? Yeah, they did, so

791
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: does everybody else except the Patriots. We were calling it

792
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: a quote unquote moral victory to lose to them, and

793
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: that that just hasn't totally know it's but I mean,

794
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: I think that we're willing to pick apart the Patriots

795
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: and for all their flaws because this is our team.

796
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: But everybody's like, oh, Vikings eating too, They're great, they

797
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: have a lot of flaws. Let's go back to the

798
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: phones and uh here from Eldred down to North Carolina.

799
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Hell there, what's going on? Hey, tell us, how y'all do? Good?

800
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: Good lady, let me give you some insights into the Viking. Okay, yeah,

801
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: the reason why the Cowboys dumped them like that they

802
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: know Kirk cuz they played against when we were Washington,

803
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: and like like one of my like my families say,

804
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: the only thing you gotta do is pressure him, get

805
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: to him, he'll freak out. But against the Bills, it

806
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: was it was a personal thing because they got tired

807
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: of people saying you want to beat back up quarterbacks,

808
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: so they had to beat the Bill and the Bills.

809
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: I mean it was color what it was. They were

810
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: down seventeen in the fourth quarter and Josh Allen fumbled

811
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: a snap in the end zone, like that was a fluid.

812
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: But if it was personal, yeah, they said it was personal.

813
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: But anyway, do you think we can score like like

814
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did? Like our offense get like the Cowboy No,

815
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they can score forty points without turnover snow, Okay, okay,

816
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: no turnover. They show that they can score seventeen yet great,

817
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I mean, just the offense,

818
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: not not big leg Nick, not with the defense. I'm sorry, no,

819
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: doctor late, that's Nick Foles. You know what I mean?

820
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: You have dating both. So what I'm so, what I'm

821
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: saying is, you know I don't like this game on Thanksgiving?

822
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: I know that eight thirty and you know how how

823
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: we do back with Brady. We we play a team,

824
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: we pulled the beat, but we lost. Then the next

825
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: team next game was to get right game. That's what

826
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: I'm feeling about. Just get right with Minnesota. You might

827
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: be right I feel about it. I'm not telling you

828
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: that there's no possible way the Patriots can lose this game.

829
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm worried about the short week road trip and all that.

830
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm worried about this game. I think the Patriots are

831
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: just as good as Minnesota, even though there are two

832
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: games difference in the standings. I think it's just the

833
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: thanks Elder, appreciate it. I hope you didn't have another

834
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: question there on the drap. Okay, so this makes me

835
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: want to ask. I don't even know who asked this

836
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: question last week, but Paul, would you take Kirk Cousins

837
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: or Mac Jones? I would take mac Jones. But there's

838
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: no pause there, no because because I know what Kirk

839
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: Cousins is. And I think there's a chance now you

840
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: you you're gonna ask me how confident I am not

841
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: very but I think there's a chance that we don't

842
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: know what mac Jones is yet and he could get

843
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: to a level that's better than Kirk Cousins. Yeah, so

844
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: I would take Kirk. I would take Mac Jones because

845
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: I think there's an unknown quality there Kirk. Also, he's

846
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: just like the ultimate, like he probably won't win you

847
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: a game, he probably won't lose a game. He's just

848
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: the barometer. He's the face of it. And we want

849
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: Mac to be better than that, right, Yeah, Ultimately, you

850
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: want your quarterback to be better than just okay, And

851
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's all king enough people are

852
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: talking about the Kirk Cousins primetime effet. I was just

853
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: going to bring that up, and you know, a couple

854
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: points though, ten and eighteen career record in primetime game

855
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: six and nine one Minnesota four and nine. Watching it. However,

856
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: I haven't heard any mention of this in with Washington

857
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen against Dallas, he did throw for four

858
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine yards in an l Maybe it's

859
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: just like Peyton Manning, like you know, uh sorry, he

860
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: did lose that game thirty one, twenty six He did

861
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: beat the Giants in twenty seventeen on the night game.

862
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't quite the epic passing performance, but yes, he

863
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: did fall short. And interesting, Yeah, so he has had

864
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: he's had some struggles and I'll even you know, and

865
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't have the numbers for it. I'm assuming what

866
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: was the what was the record at ten and eighteen.

867
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm just assuming that those twenty eight games are all

868
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: actual night games. I actually count a game like Sunday

869
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: when it's a four to twenty five start on you know,

870
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: one of those you know, an NFL Game of the

871
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: week whatever they call it, the Fox, you know, football

872
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: game of a Week or whatever, and they lose forty

873
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: to three. Like I know, it wasn't a primetime game

874
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: per se, but that was a national game with everybody

875
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: everybody was watching. You're eating one Vikings go against what

876
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: everybody thinks is a pretty good team in Dallas, and

877
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: you didn't even compete, especially because that was a home game. Yeah,

878
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: I was just a little bit I don't know, like

879
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: I was. I was all in on Dallas in that game,

880
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: but like you said earlier in the show Tomorrow, I

881
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: didn't expect you know, thirty four seventeen, you know, like

882
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, like the other team is better than you.

883
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: I thought Dallas was better, but not like that. Yeah,

884
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: let's go back to the phones. Mark from Bolton, Hey, Mark,

885
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey, guys had a couple of things. Um,

886
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: I'm a Mac defender, but not an apologist. Um, I

887
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: think he's there is a fine line there, sure, sure, yeah,

888
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: makes sense. Well, I mean I think that the show

889
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: shocking started in training camp. Um I was there six times.

890
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: You know, there was just he just was getting broken

891
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: in on. But I think he came out of that

892
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: a little bit against the Jets in that his feet

893
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: were more solid. Yea, and okay, took some sacks, but

894
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean those were pretty quick sacks. Yep. Um my

895
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: point on the offense, though, My second point is in

896
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: the red zone. If you want to score in the

897
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: red zone, you've got to get the ball to the

898
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: end zone. And they never get the ball to the

899
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: end zone. And some of it is because okay, there's

900
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: the holding penalty. They never get to the red zone.

901
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: Some of it is you know, he's Mac getting sacked.

902
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: But you got to get the ball in the end

903
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: zone if you want to score. It's like playing the lottery,

904
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I would agree. I would agree they

905
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: don't get to the red zone enough to give themselves

906
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: chances to score. They got to the red zone twice Sunday. Yeah,

907
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: the other team, which had the single worst offensive performance

908
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: I think i've ever seen, got to the red zone once.

909
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: But even when they get there, I mean, even when

910
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: they get there, you've got to get the You gotta

911
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: you guys throw the ball into the end zone, or

912
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: you've got to have a play that uh you know,

913
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: Okay Blans or something. Yeah, I know there's a there's

914
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: a lot of Again, I think that the number one

915
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: problem is coaching. I do um so I'm with Mark

916
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: in general, but there's been a lot of the play

917
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: calling in the red zone short circuits them, and it's

918
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: not entirely the fault of the coaches. Like I mentioned,

919
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: the first time they got down there on Sunday, it's

920
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: first and ten from the fifteen yard line. First snap

921
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: they got called. They could call for a Peltic, but

922
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: but it wasn't holding. No one missed a block. It

923
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: was illegal formation. Like I'm sorry, that's not Matt Patricia's fault.

924
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: That's not Bill Belichick's fault. Like, so all of a sudden,

925
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: now it's first and fifteen. They threw the ball three times.

926
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: You know it was incomplete, and then they ended up

927
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: short of getting the fifteen They ended up with fourteen yards,

928
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: and that was the drive that they lined up up

929
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: to go for it. Change their minds or whatever called

930
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: time out and wound up kicking the field goal, which

931
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: thank god, because otherwise you may have lost the game

932
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: three nothing if you didn't kick that field goal on

933
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: the fourth and fourth and inches in the start of

934
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: the second quarter. But there's too many negative plays when

935
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: they get down in the red zone and it's hard

936
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: to throw the ball into the end zone when you're

937
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: going backwards. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I mean they had a

938
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: third and two, and you know, I feel like the

939
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: ninth Yeah, that was the other time they were in

940
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: the red zone and Marcus right on it. Third and two,

941
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: Yadney Kuld just gets beaten immediately and Mac is forced

942
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: to scramble. May or may not had the first I

943
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: think officially on the game book it says he got

944
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: three yards. I thought he was short live when we

945
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: were there, but a call for holding, so now it's

946
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: third and twelve, and then they get sacked again in

947
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: our out of field goal range. Like the offensive line,

948
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: the play calling, the structure of the offense. I'm sorry,

949
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: but the play off Mac Jones is also part of it. Um.

950
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: They have They have a litany at problems. They have

951
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: a lot of things going wrong. Thanks, Mark, appreciate the call. Uh.

952
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because in the pregame show, I was like, Wow,

953
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: this is going to be the first game that mac

954
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: Jones is going to have like his offensive lineback, everyone

955
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: everyone healthy. And later Yeah, I know, I was watching

956
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: a little of that game last night and just kind

957
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: of watching Trent Williams a little bit of you know what,

958
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: like a really badass was still tipped? Was he still

959
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: tipping the place? I didn't see that a problem? Was

960
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: that a problem? Or when you can block a guy,

961
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter if he knows what's coming. Yeah,

962
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: And that's and it's just it. It frustrated me because

963
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: I know, Paul, we've done the draft the last few years,

964
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: and I think we've talked a lot about the need

965
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: for offensive tackle and the need to kind of establish

966
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: some stability there. And Isaiah Win, regardless of what you

967
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: think of him, he's never lived up to the first

968
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: round billing that you selected him. And it feels like you,

969
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, those days of Matt Light drafting him in

970
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: the first round, and then he plays ten years, drafting

971
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: Nate Solder and he plays, you know whatever, he played

972
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: seven eight years for you. They just have gotten away,

973
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: like they've gotten away from the preparation. Like it was

974
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: Matt Light you knew, and then years you know he's

975
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: coming to the end. And a year before that, when

976
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: you have Matt Lytton Sebastian Volmer establishes your tackles, we're

977
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: gonna take Nate's Solder because whether it's this year, next year,

978
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,479
Speaker 1: or the year after that, we're gonna need Nate's Solder

979
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: to step in for one of these guys. It's an

980
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: important position, right, and Solder ended up playing quite a

981
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: bit as a rookie as an extra tackle tight end.

982
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: Then I think he replaced Volmer. I got hurt and

983
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: you were ready to go, and then Light retired and

984
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: bang you had Solder. Now it's like we went in

985
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: like thinking that Trent Brown and Isaiah Wynn were going

986
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: to be seventeen games stalwarts when they've never done that,

987
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: and then we flipped sides and we put now and

988
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: now evidently reportedly Trent Brown didn't start the game for

989
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: coaching decisions like somehopley of the bye yeah right, so

990
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: which again and they don't have an option. We think

991
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: something happened after the during the preseason two when he

992
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: was mysteriously not dressed for the same night that Kendrick

993
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: Bonne got all the attention. Trent Brown wasn't dressed that

994
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: night against Carolina. So it's just it's it's frustrating because

995
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, and I will say, like

996
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: flip side of the coin, wrong about cornerback, Like I

997
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: felt like they really need a cornerback. They figured it out,

998
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: they were able to move Jonathan Jones. That's been you know,

999
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: that hasn't been a major problem yet, right. But I

1000
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: would also say with that, I yes, I was wrong

1001
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: about that. They ended up we should be you know,

1002
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: fair because Jack Jones and Jonathan Jones have been able

1003
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: to fill that void. I think it's more about the

1004
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: front seven and the immense pressure you're putting on quarterbacks.

1005
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: It speaks to your point to Paul, where you're like

1006
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: the consistency and the preparation. It's like at corner we've

1007
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: clearly for many years now been prepared for someone else

1008
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: to move up be the next guy up. The training

1009
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: and development is there, and it's just but where's But

1010
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: even like even when it wasn't because I mean, you know,

1011
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: I was banging the JC horn train a couple of

1012
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: years ago, but like even when it wasn't as meticulously

1013
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: planned out as Paul said, Like, they just are good

1014
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: at developing guys. That is one spot that they've had

1015
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: good young Jonathan, you know, like Jack, So they just

1016
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: and like so as much as we kind of panic

1017
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: about not having that whole queue kind of filled up,

1018
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: all right, well there's the next guy. We just roll in.

1019
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: Like I think they've been good enough to coach up

1020
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: and and maybe that's what they thought that and they've

1021
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: been better at that at that position. They've been better

1022
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: at the undrafted guys, the mid to late round guys,

1023
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: than they have the early picks. The early picks have

1024
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: not panned out at cornerback, which another you know, we

1025
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: get these emails here from from the NFL that just

1026
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: kind of point out killing everywhere. And I don't know

1027
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: that I like paper though sometimes definitely I'm I'm making

1028
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm making fun of Mike. But I have all my

1029
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: stuff in front of me, type the game book and

1030
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: random good morning boomer. Mine cracks me up because he

1031
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: has his little like printed like planner well done, well done,

1032
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: right there. I just bought a new one two Tamarri.

1033
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: It's a new two years. So this is I think

1034
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: my fifth different book of two year little paper calendar

1035
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,479
Speaker 1: that I'm always like kind of nerding out and looking.

1036
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: He lost it for a few days and I think

1037
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: he remember, remember I was just walking aimlessly through the halls,

1038
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: like I don't know where I'm supposed to be. I

1039
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: don't have my paper calendar. That's how I feel about

1040
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 1: my iPad too. See, I'm more of like a Google

1041
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: Apple calendar gal, like I can see it on my phone,

1042
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: and I like that stuff too. I just there's just

1043
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: like something about having a calendar that I can just

1044
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: like whip out and look at at anytime I want

1045
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: to start writing. It's the physical writing down for the

1046
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: pencils arresting. Let's put that calendar away. But back to

1047
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: my point end, And they included this with the with

1048
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: the email that we got just the next gen stats

1049
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: that you know again, and I made the point I

1050
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: think last week or the week before, Patriots have played

1051
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: cover one on forty one percent of their cover snaps,

1052
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: the only team to a click forty percent. So, I mean,

1053
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: just again, so much conversation this year, they're gonna go

1054
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: to more zone. They gotta play more zone. They can't

1055
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: play me in like they don't care, like they just

1056
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Speaker 1: yards overexpected against cover one this season. He's tough. He's

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Speaker 1: tough to cover one on one. Yeah, And I would

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Speaker 1: also am going to be very interested in the rest

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Speaker 1: of now. That will change because guys will get hurt.

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Speaker 1: But the backups are done and the just the really

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Speaker 1: like low octane offenses, yeah, are done. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think even the bad teams that they play from here

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Speaker 1: on in have the ability to move the ball and

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Speaker 1: score some points, like the Raiders in the in the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: like they're bad teams, but you could certainly understand, like

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Speaker 1: if you went to if they go to Arizona and

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's back healthy and he's throwing the ball to

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, you know in Ron del Moore, who, by

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Speaker 1: the way, got hurt less. I mean, just heaven decide. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I never do this, as you know, I never do this.

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Speaker 1: How do you Last night when he went out, I

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Speaker 1: lost by point two? Do you know why I lost

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Speaker 1: by point two? Because Ron del Moore got point minus six?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, negative points point six. He had one carry

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Speaker 1: for minus six yards and then left the game. If

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Speaker 1: he just didn't play, I would have won. If he

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Speaker 1: caught a pass for for a loss of six yards,

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Speaker 1: I would have won anyway. Yeah, so I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: not bitter at all. But if you saw, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: are right. You are right to make fun of me

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Speaker 1: for that. Well done by you two people. They can

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Speaker 1: accept that one though, because I think that that's enough

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Speaker 1: of a weird, tough loss and you're not like and

1090
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Speaker 1: then I needed seven points from this guy, but I

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Speaker 1: benched him to put this guy you know I need.

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Speaker 1: I needed seventeen point nine points between DeAndre Hopkins in

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Speaker 1: in Ron del Moore. I got eighteen point one from Hikins.

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Speaker 1: Have lost Anyway, Um, if if if the Cardinals like

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Speaker 1: move the ball and they have success throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: to Hopkins and Moore in aj Green and even that

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Speaker 1: Greg Dortsch guy was was pretty good last night? Um

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. And you know James Connor is making plays.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people will say, Wow, that's embarrassing you

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Speaker 1: allowed that to That's that's a team that has the

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Speaker 1: the ball. That's great. So there is gonna be there's

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Speaker 1: adjust to the cover one. To illustrate all your numbers.

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Speaker 1: Can they pay some zone against the team, Can they

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Speaker 1: play differently or can they you know when when they're

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Speaker 1: actually tested, because I think in the handful of games

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Speaker 1: a call back to the phones. Todd from North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: Hey Todd, what's going on? Hey guys, was there a

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Speaker 1: chance John would have gotten in if when he fumbled

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Speaker 1: that ball? Yeah? So I think you had the whole sideline. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I did read Evans piece and he did say

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1116
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Speaker 1: So I don't know why, but I got a feeling

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Speaker 1: that we might actually be Okay. Well, I think this game,

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Speaker 1: this could be a win for us because I think

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Speaker 1: that if the defense can and how how do I

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Speaker 1: a shot in this game, especially if we can run

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Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, I agree, all right, thanks Todd. I

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Speaker 1: mean I kind of divide these inner games of like,

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Speaker 1: think Buffalo and Miami are their own thing. They're a

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Speaker 1: division opponent. You know very well we know what those

1130
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Speaker 1: two offenses are capable of, But you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: I just think if the game unfolds right in a

1132
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Speaker 1: getting chased back. But you know, like Lamart, the thing

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I just how how's that going?

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying, like, I know the Cardinals aren't a

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Yeah, me too, Like defensively, I'd rather play

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Speaker 1: the Vikings than the Cardinals. Let's take one more before

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Speaker 1: go on, Hey, Patty, what's going on? Hey, what's going on? Everyone?

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Speaker 1: Not much, so just to sort of touch on what

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1146
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1147
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Speaker 1: rest of the year. And I know Kyler brought this

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1152
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Speaker 1: Let's figure it out because we have to be better

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Speaker 1: we're not going to We're going to be in the

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Speaker 1: same situation we are next year than we are this year. Yeah. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: Patty appreciate it. Uh, I mean, I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: But I do think there's a chance that Robert would go,

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Speaker 1: a rush coming. I'm looped by Judak. I do a

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Speaker 1: little bit. He gets from the quarterback. He sacks Zack Wilson,

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Speaker 1: his second of the day. Wilson and the gun first

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Speaker 1: Tell me a little d runner is down by contact

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Speaker 1: at the ten yard line. It'll be second down four

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Speaker 1: fifteen on the clock. Fans on their feet and full

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Speaker 1: we're there. Ye man is out there for his tenth

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Speaker 1: punt of the days with the Jets. Marcus Jones returning

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Speaker 1: for the Pats des quite literarier ankle injury. He waits

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Speaker 1: on the right hash mark of the twenty five the

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Speaker 1: snack wayside precular free punk and it's a good one

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Speaker 1: for sing Jones. The back pedal right side of the

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Speaker 1: sixteenth Dad left grandit right now the sidi five the

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Speaker 1: thirty carcass Jove Dad hit the same way a plot

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Speaker 1: the clock and is usc to take the wins it

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Speaker 1: boil Albos did a walk off a boy, Jets. You

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Speaker 1: Both huntres of the five seconds to go. Ball bounces

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Speaker 1: from the twenty handled by the young man four New

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Speaker 1: York running to the nearest sidalize you more, scrambling to

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Speaker 1: the sideline, force out of bounces. The game ends and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots hunted a fourteenth grade over the Jets. New

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Speaker 1: York comes to Fox Girl with a chance to head

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Speaker 1: the first place the AFC Easton. The Jets get conservative

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Speaker 1: with a struggling offense. They punted at the Patriots winner.

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Speaker 1: We're ready for the holiday days? Are you guys ready

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Speaker 1: for the holidays? Big Thanksgiving? Is anyone actually getting any

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Speaker 1: kind of Thanksgiving? No? My no, Evan isn't. He's going.

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Speaker 1: He's on his way to beautiful Minnesota. Alex. You might

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Speaker 1: I will be stuff on our faces mid day and

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll get a little nap in and then Patriots

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Speaker 1: pregame show starting at six o'clock, six o'clock. I believe,

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Speaker 1: nice tease, nice tease. Hopefully you guys all caught all

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Speaker 1: twenty two Catch twenty two this morning with Evan close

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Speaker 1: enough and uh barthy, what were you guys running about?

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Speaker 1: I heard a little bit in the background there. I

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Speaker 1: got pretty fired up about Matt Patricia. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think this is an old belichickism that players win

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Speaker 1: games but coaches lose games. And in that game, if

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Speaker 1: they had lost, I would have put like probably seventy

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Speaker 1: five percent of the blame on the play caller. Now,

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Speaker 1: obviously some of it has to be on the offensive

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Speaker 1: line for giving up six acts, there's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: But in general, and we were talking about this upstairs

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Speaker 1: and I wrote about it, and after further review, they

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Speaker 1: have no foundation. There's nothing, there's no basis to this offense.

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Speaker 1: Like when you look around in the league and you

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Speaker 1: look around at the best offenses Buffalo, Kansas City, uh,

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, you can tell this is they

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Speaker 1: are a outside zone team. They are a spread offense,

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Speaker 1: Like this is what they do, Like, this is who

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Speaker 1: they are and yeah, they have different variations off of that,

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Speaker 1: and they have game planned wrinkles and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I'll ask, like, what is the Patriots offense? Like

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Speaker 1: what what are they? A random collection of plays that

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Speaker 1: they try to execute that that's the That's the way

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Speaker 1: it looks to me, Like what what are they? They

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Speaker 1: are wanted? I'm not enough. I mean, I'm being good serious.

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Speaker 1: I don't know offensive systems just to watch and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's this, that's that. But I did want to ask

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Speaker 1: you about some specific plays that they ran that I

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Speaker 1: hadn't really seen in terms of formations. I thought they

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Speaker 1: had success with the two tight ends in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this little house, yes, and I think

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01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: twice it worked for big plays. Once, I think it

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01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: caught the edge for a twenty two yard run, and

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Speaker 1: I think they did a wrinkle off of that with

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Speaker 1: a little dump to John or Smith for like twenty

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Speaker 1: six Yeah, thirty yard run. Oh so it was a

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Speaker 1: thirty yard run that was off of that formation, not

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Speaker 1: the twenty two. Okay. So, Like my point was just

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Speaker 1: that you haven't been able to move the ball all year.

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Speaker 1: You haven't been able to score any points all year.

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01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: You didn't move the ballo score any points in that game,

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01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: but they dialed up some chunk plays, and I thought

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01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: they most of the chunk plays they got were dialed up,

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01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 1: schemed up with some things that the coaches did. So

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Speaker 1: am I a little giving him a little too much credit? No,

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Speaker 1: not at all. The full house package was a nice wrinkle,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's something that they can build on

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Speaker 1: moving forward. I think the big thing is when you

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Speaker 1: don't have a dominant offensive line, putting those two guys

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Speaker 1: in the backfield as basically fullbacks, it helps, right, it

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Speaker 1: just opens up bigger holes. Now, on Damien Harris's thirty

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: yard run, he actually bounces it right because the flow

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Speaker 1: the place sucks everybody into the into the trenches and

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01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: sas Gardener kind of gets pulled in a little bit

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01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: off the edge and he bounces it out the back

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Speaker 1: door and there's nobody there. So whether it's going straight

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Speaker 1: up the middle or it's bouncing it, you know, when

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Speaker 1: everybody gets sucked into the full back action or what

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01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: have you, that it generated an explosive And then later

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Speaker 1: on in the game you run the tight ends through

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Speaker 1: like you're doing the same exact thing. And what do

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01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, the linebackers jump up to step up to

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Speaker 1: the run and he sneaked Johnny behind him and it's

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Speaker 1: a twenty six yard play action pass. So these are

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Speaker 1: the types of things that they put on tape that

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01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, this is complimentary. This is building. We're scheming,

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Speaker 1: we're sequencing, you know, this is coordinating an offense, this

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Speaker 1: is play calling. But then what happens is is they

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Speaker 1: get down to the Jets thirty yard line, let's call it.

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Speaker 1: And they've gotten down there by running the full house package,

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01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: by running the football and incorporating play action off of it.

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Speaker 1: And now we're in the shotgun. And so now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, we go from two back to back

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01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: explosive plays from under center to get into Jets territory

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Speaker 1: and we throw that out and we spread the field

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01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: and we go into the shotgun and mac Jones goes backwards.

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Speaker 1: And that, to me is the frustrating part, is that

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01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: there's no it's one play at a time right now

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01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: for them, right yeah, And I'm not telling you that.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's let's give these guys a pound on

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Speaker 1: the back. And they scored three points when they were

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01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: under three hundred yards, Like I'm not. I'm just saying

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: that it's a slog right now. So to find some

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01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: some chunk plays, at least to me, that was the

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Speaker 1: progress in that game. No that I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of other people like it looked much better. Don't think

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: it looked much better. I think they had some chunk

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01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,560
Speaker 1: plays in the game, and I was very encouraged by that.

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Speaker 1: I think from a plate like to you a point, Evan,

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01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: from a play to play standpoint, the sequence of plays

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01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: didn't look all that much better than me. No, it

1443
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: just doesn't have good offenses. Marry everything up right, everything

1444
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: has a purpose because they're gonna run this and they're

1445
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: gonna show you that, and they're gonna run something else

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01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: off of the same look. Okay, so everything is foundationally

1447
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: put together like that where you know they ran the

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01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: fake toss bootleg they hit Hunter Henry for twenty yards. Yeah,

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01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: that was another one that I would put in there. Okay,

1450
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: so they faked the toss to him, they bring him

1451
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: in motion, and they bring him into the formation like

1452
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna crack block on a crack toss. It's exactly

1453
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: what they would do in that situation. But instead they

1454
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: hit play action. Great, so on the next play, run

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01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 1: crack toss, right, Like, that's how you build up these

1456
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: types of things into an offense because now all of

1457
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: a sudden, we've shown you the bootleg. We've shown you

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01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: that we actually will toss it. So now you got

1459
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: to worry about both things, and then you sequence off

1460
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: of that. So now maybe you know, you get cracked toss,

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01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: then you get a bootleg, then you get a rollback

1462
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: play where they kind of toss it but he ends

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01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: up coming up back through the middle. Like this is

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01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: how you sequence together plays to move the football, and

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01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: this offense, it's like we're just picking plays out of

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01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: a hat, Like, okay, we ran a crack toss. Uh,

1467
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Speaker 1: you know, fake to Hunter, Henry comes across the formation,

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Speaker 1: catches a twenty yard completion, and on the next play

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Speaker 1: where you do something completely unrelated and totally different to

1470
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: the last play. Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. Let's hop

1471
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: to the fund's real quick. Rashot and Baltimore had the

1472
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: fortunate elect to call right as we broke for lunch,

1473
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: ra shot where we're back, we're on what's going on? Yeah,

1474
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 1: we'll stop up everybody, Hi, Hi, I just want to.

1475
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: I definitely wanted to, So I'm not gonna I'm not

1476
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,759
Speaker 1: gonna be negative, but I gotta say, like, the offense

1477
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: like it is, it is what I thought it's Niven.

1478
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: It is like it's worse like that game that game Funday,

1479
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: like three to three, three to three. I'm like, we're

1480
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: lucky if we can even get We're lucky if we

1481
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: can even tie. Like I mean, I'm Musket Jones, you know,

1482
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm happy that. I'm happy that he made a play.

1483
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm loving that. And then Jack Jones, you know, I'm

1484
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 1: loving I'm loving the development. But the offense it's less

1485
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: it is less than desirable. It's it's just like it's

1486
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: just what I gotta watch every week every week. Well,

1487
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: got Timetown games coming up. That was bad. I mean

1488
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 1: that was I think the Jets games in the in

1489
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: the Colts game, those three, I think those were particularly bad.

1490
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: I don't I haven't seen them. Look at but and

1491
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say that the opponent had something to

1492
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: do with that little bit. I think that the Jets

1493
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: and the Colts have pretty good defenses. I don't think

1494
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna see that kind of a defense respect to

1495
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: the Jets defense, because defense give them some credit. It

1496
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: came to play. Yeah, it's just like, you know, like,

1497
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 1: let me just put it this way, rashod like I

1498
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: would say that a lot of people have given a

1499
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: lot of respect to the Patriots defense for what they

1500
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: did on Sunday, holding a team to one hundred yards

1501
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 1: and no, no, no, you know, I'm trying to be

1502
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: fair here. Like around here, the focus has been on

1503
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense was dominant. In other places, they'll say

1504
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: that was one of the worst offensive performances you'll ever see.

1505
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: More accurate. Yeah, you know, but you know what I'm

1506
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: saying is so like, let's give the other team a

1507
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: little bit of credit. I would give the Patriots some credit.

1508
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: I think Zach Wilson missed a number. We talked about

1509
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: this the Three of Us Live. We saw guys that

1510
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 1: he was missing, especially that one with Conklin. To me,

1511
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: that changed his whole day. I don't think he was

1512
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: miserably bad until he missed that throw, and then the

1513
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: second half was like he was playing left handed. That's

1514
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: how bad he was throwing the ball in the second half.

1515
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: Thanks for appreciate it. The only way that you can

1516
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: watch the Patriots defense and I hate doing it, but

1517
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: you have to keep in mind, well, how is this

1518
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: going to look against Buffalo? How's this going to look

1519
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: against Miami again, Cincinnati? Like those are the teams that

1520
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: they're trying to compete with. They're not trying to get again,

1521
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 1: that's all. That's all fair. And the concern that I

1522
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: had after watching it back was if they play a

1523
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: better quarterback on Sunday. There's a lot more plays on

1524
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: that field than Zach Wilson was able to hit. I mean,

1525
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: even though you talk about the one to Conklin over

1526
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: the middle where he threw the ball to the open

1527
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: guy but just sailed it over his head, there was

1528
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: others that he missed. You know, they they want to

1529
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: try that they got into scoring territory when they kicked

1530
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: the field goal. Patriots busted a coverage guy wide open

1531
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: in the end zone like this, jumping up and down

1532
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: trying to get I didn't see that trying to get

1533
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's attention. I think it was Garrett Wilson who

1534
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: went off after the game. Well, there was a slant

1535
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: that on a third down that he threw behind in

1536
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 1: low to Mims yeah, that Garrett Wilson was underneath for

1537
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: the first down, easy throwing jetch and that was one

1538
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: of the ones that Ye, Wilson's like, so he's a rookie,

1539
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: he's played ten games and he's already got it. They

1540
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: switch released it, and so the Patriots didn't pass off

1541
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: the switch properly and busted the coverage completely like nobody

1542
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 1: within twenty yards of them. So I think in a sense,

1543
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: I look at it and I say, Okay, well that's

1544
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: good because Bill's gonna come in on Monday when they

1545
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: go over corrections and be like, hey, guys, you're not

1546
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 1: that good, like what's this? Yeah, you know, and they

1547
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: can build up and learn from that. So in some ways,

1548
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: I think it's not a bad thing that they're making

1549
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: some of these mistakes. But I just think I don't

1550
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: know if Kirk Cousins can do it, because they're gonna

1551
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: put him in a lot of pressure, and I don't know.

1552
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if that's gonna end up

1553
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: being a game where they're really tested in the secondary.

1554
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: But a week from Thursday, if they play coverage like

1555
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: they did against the Jets against Josh Allen Hill drop

1556
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: forty on them here like that. That's just a reality.

1557
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: That's the elephant in the room that I think since

1558
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: they didn't force upon back in Buffalo, that we've all

1559
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: just kind of been like, no matter what, the defense

1560
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 1: kind of does until they go back up against Josh

1561
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: Allen and actually, you know, they can be a speed bump.

1562
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: I know that's this thing. You don't have to play

1563
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: the hits. I just want to make said the offense.

1564
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: It was easy to tire. You don't need to play

1565
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 1: the hits. My favorite tweet from Sunday's game was Mina

1566
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: Comes tweeted, Jets Patriots has been a masterclass in coaching,

1567
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: Like you don't trust your quarterback? Well, that's uh, that's

1568
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: about it. So that was a comment that I made

1569
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: on the postgame show that I got attacked them all

1570
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: and now suddenly that means that I'm killing Mac Jones,

1571
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: which I am not. I think Mac Jones is on

1572
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: the list of problems. He ain't at the top of it. Yeah,

1573
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: I think we talked about that in the pregame show too,

1574
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: and behind enemy Lines he's like, how many games can

1575
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: you win when when you don't trust Zack Wilson. But

1576
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, it's the same way. How many games

1577
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: can you win when you don't trust mac Jones. It's

1578
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: trying to trying to games. Can you win with just

1579
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: defense and special times? Not easy. Let's let's jump ru

1580
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: real quick, NAT Santa Cruz, HEYNT what's going on? Hey guys?

1581
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: So so, I actually I was just thinking about this

1582
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: with the going for it on fourth down and then

1583
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: some of the short yardage plays, Like I didn't have

1584
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: a problem with going for it on fourth down just

1585
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: because it looked like Dack Wilson like had throws that

1586
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 1: he missed, Like it very well could have been the

1587
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: Jeff could have scored six or nine on a ten

1588
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: points in that game. So I guess the fact that

1589
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: that they wanted to go for it. What I had

1590
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 1: a problem with was in short yardage, You've got remond

1591
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: Ring Stevenson in there. You've got a quarterback who is

1592
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: still recovering from an injury. So at that point, as

1593
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: a defense, don't you think that the defense just says, oh,

1594
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: it's a run play to Remondring Stevenson, we can sell

1595
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 1: out with everything we have on a run play, because

1596
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna do, isn't that what you're doing

1597
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: should yard is nine times out of ten like to me,

1598
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: to me, like, I hear what you're saying about the

1599
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: throws that Zach Wilson missed. To me, it would be

1600
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: the opposite reason. I would say, pin him down and

1601
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: make him make four or five throws as opposed to

1602
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: give him the ball to thirty six yard line and

1603
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, if he makes a throw

1604
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: one throw, they potentially are in field goal range and

1605
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: I can lose. That's why I would have punted on

1606
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: that play. Then the one. If you guys disagree, that's

1607
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: fine too, like with I mean, that's what these football

1608
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: decisions shouldn't be universally agreed. You know, there's a lot

1609
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: of different ways to look at it, and Nat just

1610
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: brought up a different way. At the time fourth and

1611
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: three from the thirty six, I'm like, punted, pin him

1612
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: inside the ten and see if you can get off

1613
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: the ten yard line again. The last time you got

1614
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: away with it and they punted. Let's see if he

1615
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 1: could do it again. And then that's how I'm gonna

1616
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: win this game. Eventually, I'm gonna take over close enough

1617
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 1: to field goal range. I don't have to do anything.

1618
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna kick a field goal. I didn't have

1619
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: as much problem with the decision to go for it

1620
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: as I did the play call. I just think, you

1621
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: look at that whole sequence. It goes back to what

1622
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: I was saying when I first sat down, which is,

1623
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, first down, first and ten. They actually pulled

1624
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: Trent Brown, and the Jets defense wanted no part of it.

1625
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: Like they got three and eighty pound Trent Brown coming

1626
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: downhill at him. They gave six yards at second and four.

1627
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: Then I'm thinking, okay, well you just did that. The

1628
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: Jets defense a hadn't really seen that in the game yet,

1629
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: and you don't run it a ton on film either,

1630
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: so they're probably a little surprised by it. So I

1631
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: would say, just run it again, right like until until

1632
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: they stop it, Like let's just hoss crack, let's keep

1633
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: running again. Or you know, I know this is next level.

1634
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: Or we pulled Trent Brown and it's play action, right,

1635
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: so he pulls, but we actually don't run it. We

1636
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: actually play action it. And now your linebackers are coming

1637
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: flying because they got to take on the freaking mountain

1638
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: coming through the hole. And now you hit a big

1639
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: playoff of play action like they were doing all afternoon,

1640
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: but instead they ran outside zone and David Harris gets

1641
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: hit by three guys in the backfield and loses three yards.

1642
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: Now it's third and seven, so it's just a get

1643
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: I just don't know what they are. And then then

1644
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: shotgun fourth down and a shotgun run a sweep out

1645
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: of the gun on fourth and three. That's your play call.

1646
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: My real problem. Yeah, I think everything you said is

1647
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 1: spot on with that sequence. I don't know how I

1648
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 1: want third and seven. So okay, so you did what

1649
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: none of us wanted to do when you lost three

1650
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: yards on second down. Third and seven, we're just gonna

1651
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: run off tackle and you know, yeah, and then say well,

1652
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna go We're gonna go fart on fourth down anyway.

1653
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: So like, I just feel like you didn't even give

1654
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: yourself a shot. Third and seven, we're gonna say two

1655
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: runs here? What are we? Navy? Well, Evan, where are

1656
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: you at? Because I feel like last maybe last week

1657
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: or the week before, you were kind of you were

1658
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: out of Matt Chillen's under center. And now it sounds

1659
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: a little bit like you're saying they're having some success

1660
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:05,520
Speaker 1: under center, and you've got some issues with them. Conflicts. Now, yeah, conflicts.

1661
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: It's very true. I've flip flopped a little bit on this.

1662
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: I think, what this is my inner struggle with this

1663
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: situation because I want them to be a spread offense,

1664
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 1: right like I want them to be Alabama Like. I

1665
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: want them to be RPO spread offense. Hit guys in

1666
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: stride and watch them create after the catch. That's what

1667
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 1: I want them to be. Okay, but right now, because

1668
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 1: of mainly I would say their offensive line, they don't

1669
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: have the line to be that unfortunately, because you're you know,

1670
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: shotgun drop back, you're dropping, you're setting to about you know,

1671
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: ten yards eleven yards. Mack joneses say, he's got to

1672
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: have the tackle play to be able to run those

1673
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: guys by, which they just don't have. And then if

1674
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,560
Speaker 1: you don't have the tackle play, then you have to

1675
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 1: have the interior to step up in the pocket, which

1676
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: they just don't have. So that's one thing. When you're

1677
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: a shotgun based team running the football out a shotgun,

1678
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 1: you need to have a really good offensive line to

1679
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 1: do that because you're really just blocking with five guys

1680
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: and trying to just you know, make it happen. So

1681
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: as much as I want them to be a shotgun team,

1682
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that they can execute shotgun. And the

1683
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: things that they've done well really going back to Zappy

1684
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: is the seven guys in the protection, two guys in

1685
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: the route, hard play action off of something, and then

1686
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: you know, stressing the deep part of the field with

1687
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: the coverage and hunting those chunk plays. So that's just

1688
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: been their most successful stuff has been that, and they

1689
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: weren't running it very well with Mac, but in this

1690
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: game they found some wrinkles, you know, of the full

1691
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: house formation. They had some of those Zappy style play

1692
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: actions if you will, where there's seven guys in the

1693
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: protection plus the back, so it's really like an eight

1694
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: man almost like a max protect situation. So that that's

1695
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: been their best offense, and unfortunately that's just kind of

1696
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 1: how they have to play. How did the Andrews look?

1697
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: We mentioned on the radio, we don't have to do

1698
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: a whole Evan's back from practice thing, but we saw

1699
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: Andrews was out there. When did you what did you think?

1700
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: How was he moving? I think he's crazy. I mean,

1701
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 1: I think he's out there. He was moving pretty well.

1702
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: He looked like he was locked in and like trying

1703
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: to participate in some capacity in this practice. So we'll

1704
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: see what the injury report says. I think a lot

1705
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 1: of the reports that came out were wishy washy, because

1706
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: I agree one, I think that reporting on something not

1707
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: to take any shots at the Big Jay's, but reporting

1708
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: on something an hour after it happens on game day

1709
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 1: when he hasn't undergone any sort of testing whatsoever, is

1710
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: probably not the best approach. Oh, it doesn't look good

1711
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:41,560
Speaker 1: season ending. I mean, I don't know. We thought he

1712
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 1: had a broken steamer, right, I'm sorry, I heard serious

1713
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: eye injury, possibly season ending. I'm thinking that they think

1714
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: he may have broken the steamer. Yeah, that's what I'm think.

1715
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: Femer torn quat, you know, completely like he would have

1716
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: torn quat. Yeah, I mean, I guess you're right. That's

1717
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: probably pretty serious to climb up the leg like it's

1718
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: just completely detached. Yeah, Like, uh, well that happened to

1719
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: Steff right, Oh right that Miami game year and then

1720
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 1: he was on pup to start the following season, right, Yeah,

1721
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: So I guess, yeah, that's pretty I think that weird though.

1722
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 1: Do you watch the play like the play I can't

1723
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: tell what the heck happened. He just kind of gets

1724
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: out in space, he's kind of adjustin to block, and

1725
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: then he just kind of gets spun a little bit.

1726
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: It's hard to see what the contact. Yeah, I think

1727
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: that they you know, I think some of the reports

1728
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 1: that are coming out now or after the testing and

1729
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 1: after the imaging, it's not severe enough that for a guy,

1730
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, David Andrews wants to play through it and

1731
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, I think play playing on Thursdays.

1732
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: I can't imagine he's playing this crazy, But I don't know.

1733
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: Maybe I would. I would say the next two Thursdays

1734
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: is probably pushing it. But then you have that long

1735
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: break until the Cardinals game on Monday night. It's like

1736
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: a ten day break or something like that. Maybe maybe

1737
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 1: he's able to play. I think that's sort of been

1738
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: the thinking with Christian Barmore as well, is you know,

1739
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 1: let's shut him down and then we have that long

1740
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 1: layoff and and will hopefully get him back, you know,

1741
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: for the last four games of the season. Hopefully they

1742
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,440
Speaker 1: can use him for meaningful games at that point. Right disappointing.

1743
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: I just thought was one thing coming in um I

1744
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: wanted to see, wanted to bar more season, but I

1745
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: haven't gotten much of it. Uh, let's go to the emails, Paul.

1746
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: They're stacking up, and I have I've ignored them. I

1747
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: haven't ignored them, but we've been talking about a lot

1748
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: so UM. But let's power through them. We really appreciate

1749
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: everybody writing in. UM gonna start here. I don't know.

1750
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting from Ford Hello World's original podcast.

1751
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: I believe defense doesn't win championships except about every seven years.

1752
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: The Ravens, the Seven Giants, the fifteen Broncos. In the

1753
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: twenty two Patriots. Could the Patriots sneak into the playoffs

1754
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: and make a run on defense? He's kind of drawing

1755
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: the comparison to the Seven Giants. Do you think do

1756
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: you think something like that could come together for for

1757
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: this squad? Not without offense. The thing was like Eli

1758
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: just played out of his mind. Yeah, I think. I

1759
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: think there are different things. I think people look at

1760
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: like the individual super Bowl itself, and they're like, well,

1761
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 1: the better defense beat the better offense, so defense wins championships.

1762
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 1: But they don't take into consideration that the Patriots don't

1763
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl, say in eighteen without scoring

1764
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: forty plus points in the playoff games or at thirty

1765
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: seven in Kansas City to get there, Like, that's what

1766
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: it took to get there. Like, you didn't get there

1767
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 1: in the back of your defense. You got there in

1768
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: the back of Tom Brady, who was out of his

1769
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: mind in those first two playoff games. Yeah, they won

1770
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl thirteen to three. The defense won that game.

1771
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, no one says the defense can't win a game.

1772
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 1: But it's hard to win a title like that. It's

1773
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: hard to imagine you go down the stretch and win

1774
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 1: enough of these games against Buffalo, Miami, Arizona, Vegas, and

1775
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 1: Cincinnati to get to the playoffs, and then get to

1776
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: the playoffs and then beat those teams again to get

1777
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl without any offense. That's all defense.

1778
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: That Yeah, that's the biggest thing to me is that

1779
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: you have to in order to win a Super Bowl,

1780
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: you have to be able to play different types of games, right,

1781
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: because not every game is going to go perfect the

1782
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 1: way that you planned it. So in order to win

1783
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, you have to be able to win

1784
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: a shootout. You have to be able to win a

1785
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: thirteen to three game, you have to be a weather

1786
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: games snow. You know, they put up thirty seven points

1787
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: that night on the Chiefs in arctic temperatures it was

1788
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: like ten degrees. You know, you have to be able

1789
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 1: to do these types of things and these games, because

1790
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna beat Josh Allen or Patrick

1791
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes in a playoff game, you know, ten to three,

1792
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 1: Like that game is gonna is gonna be in the

1793
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 1: thirties if you're gonna win that game. So there's there's

1794
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: some games like you could be the Titans ten to three, right,

1795
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 1: like that game could turn into a slot that kind

1796
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: of a game. But that's just one game. Ray and

1797
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: Pa writes in now this a little bit how the

1798
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: sausage gets made here by the media. Thought occurred to

1799
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: me during the great Mac Jones ankle watch of twenty

1800
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: twenty two, and hit me again today with the early

1801
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 1: practice reports. Is it forbidden for the media to zoom

1802
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 1: in on a particular player during practice available. I just

1803
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: opened Twitter and four or five different reports that David

1804
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: Andrews is taking part in practice today and is moving great,

1805
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: moving well, which is great, But then you're forced to

1806
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 1: watch a wide angle video of the entire press. Yeah,

1807
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:11,640
Speaker 1: I saw a video that did not look like he

1808
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: was moving all that great, But uh well, I think

1809
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: you're allowed to. But I think everybody's just got their phone,

1810
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 1: so we all know how crappy it is when you

1811
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 1: try to zoom your phone. And some of the TV

1812
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 1: outlets should have better floatage obviously with real canvas. Get

1813
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: it turned around. Yeah. Just also just to add to that,

1814
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: so media reporters, like beat reporters, where we have to

1815
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 1: be in a corner of the end zone. That is

1816
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: in one corner, and David Andrews was diagonally across a

1817
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 1: hundred yard football field. That's the angle I saw in

1818
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 1: the other corner, and we have to stay in that

1819
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: ten yard box. So especially you wander. There's also a

1820
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: certain time allotments exactly you've been allowed to take photos.

1821
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah there, so what are you really going to see

1822
01:30:56,439 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: when someone is like stretching, I would say, David, that

1823
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 1: seventy five yards away from us. Yeah, when those photos

1824
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: were being taken, and as good as iPhone cameras are now,

1825
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 1: zoom that zoom is only going to get you so far.

1826
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 1: You got to go to Mark Daniels binoculars outside of

1827
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 1: the a Pruter film, right, isn't that what marked us? Yes? Yeah, yeah,

1828
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 1: a couple of guys. I'm not going to go there.

1829
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,560
Speaker 1: You think that that might be like a something that

1830
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: you might invest in. Is just buying like a little

1831
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: camera that's high quality that can zoom in pretty well.

1832
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, the new iPhone camera that three zoom

1833
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,560
Speaker 1: is better than my DSLR. I regret buying myself a

1834
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: DSLR camera. Yeah, mirrorless, yeah it is. I don't know.

1835
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 1: It might if one of us Beat reporters walks in

1836
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: with the with an actual camera, it might be frowned.

1837
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not gonna lie. It's just not all

1838
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: that important. I'm sure it will. Neil from Um not sure,

1839
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 1: Warwick writes in Happy ten year butt fumbled, everybody, thank

1840
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,679
Speaker 1: you you too. Let's celebrate quick one. What's your favorite

1841
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: dishes for Thanksgiving? Anybody? I'm not good at this. You

1842
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: guys can go. You like food? Yeah, I don't like

1843
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving all that much. The food the day could you

1844
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: kill I'm not a big Turkey guy. The dessert as yeah, yeah,

1845
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 1: sweep potatoeat sweet potato par my mom is an incredible

1846
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: chef like incredible. I look forward to Thanksgiving all year.

1847
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 1: Mine's not an it's nice. Her stuffinggendary. Her stuffing is legendary.

1848
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 1: We all go out on Thanksgiving Eve, me and my friends,

1849
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: and traditionally my friends will come to my house after

1850
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: the bar three am. We roll in. My friends want

1851
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: to know if the stuffing is made yet. That was

1852
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 1: my house when my grandmother was still alive. Because my

1853
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: grandmother lived with us and she was an amazing cook,

1854
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 1: and everybody would be like, ye, shout out, Cathy, is Nana?

1855
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Do you think Nana is up? I go, Nana's always up,

1856
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 1: what do you want? And we would just go. We'd

1857
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 1: just walk in the house and she'd stop cooking. It

1858
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: was like good fellas, I'm not lying. But if we

1859
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 1: come in, like all of us would be bleepe faced,

1860
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: and she'd be like, sit down, my mom. And she

1861
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: never went to bed, right, She never went to bed.

1862
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 1: She stayed awake and waited with a big momo coat

1863
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 1: with like gravy stains all over it. That was my grandmother's,

1864
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 1: My whole life. So we've been to everybody's pulling people

1865
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: in the locker room this week asking Thanksgiving questions, And Mike,

1866
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,599
Speaker 1: we're gonna start with you first. Would you rather cook

1867
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: or clean up? Cook? Absolutely? Paul, clean up, Alex cook clean? Wow,

1868
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 1: what do you cook? Cook? I think I can't cook.

1869
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: I can't cook. I don't think I could cook at turkey.

1870
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 1: But you're leaving up. It's so many dishes. Well, one time,

1871
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 1: wake up early, cook the dishwasher. Everything can't hit in

1872
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: the dishwasher. When I lived in la I worked as

1873
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 1: a caterer briefly, and I was I had to go

1874
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: to this house in Brentwood where they basically just hired

1875
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 1: me to be kind of their white Why am I now,

1876
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm envisioning like a random I was just there exactly,

1877
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: and so it was funny because you know, lady, you're

1878
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: helping set things up. You know, it's this lady, very nice,

1879
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 1: very nice house in Brentwood, h you know. And then

1880
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: and then the dishes start coming off the table, and

1881
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's what's the protocol here? Might like supposed

1882
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 1: to do all the dishes like I did because I

1883
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 1: didn't know what else to do. But I just started

1884
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 1: cleaning all the dishes and I did the whole thing.

1885
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: But it's just one of those random Thanksgivings where you're like,

1886
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 1: I catered for a rich family in Brentwood, California. Also,

1887
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 1: could you pickture Thanksgiving without football now? And that's what

1888
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 1: we're writing about on the round table today. I miss

1889
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 1: I miss the high school football. That was one of

1890
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:35,759
Speaker 1: my favorite things was just the ten am. The games

1891
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: meant something. Everybody comes back, you know, it's it's the

1892
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 1: precursor to the dinner. So you get up in the morning,

1893
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, you see all the kids are coming back

1894
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: from college that you haven't seen in a couple of years.

1895
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're your friends are playing on the field,

1896
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 1: all their families are there. This is the biggest game.

1897
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it used to matter so much more in Massachusetts.

1898
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 1: It used to be these games were to go to

1899
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and you know, and now sometimes they're just

1900
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 1: kind of exhibitions against what were what used to be

1901
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 1: your rival. But talking to some of the guys in

1902
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 1: the press room, same kind of thing, like, just those

1903
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 1: games used to be so big. It was my favorite

1904
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 1: part of Thanksgiving, just the whole atmosphere of that. You know,

1905
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 1: you come home, you're cold, you're starving, like you would

1906
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: have breakfast a few hours ago. But now you're like ready,

1907
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 1: the house smells, your grandparents are here all of a sudden.

1908
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 1: Now it's like the good teams are just sitting all

1909
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 1: their players for the super Bowl, and the bad teams

1910
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 1: cut Like those games kind of mean something because it's

1911
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: the seniors last game, but it's like they're not in

1912
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 1: the playoffs for a reason. Right, So it's like you

1913
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: watch those Needham Wellesley will always mean something. I can

1914
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 1: tell you that I covered it once. Yeah, yeah, I

1915
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: covered them. My dad played in it. Ye just got

1916
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 1: a lot of good, good Needham Wellesley memories, like the

1917
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: oldest isn't like the oldest rivalry and and yes, yeah,

1918
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean we like to say that I do, and

1919
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 1: isn't it yeah yeah? And f Wellesley always how did

1920
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 1: you do at? I was coaching Wellesley at that time,

1921
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 1: uh one, our senior years storm the field. That was

1922
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:02,640
Speaker 1: fun at Needham. Um. Now they they they beat up

1923
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 1: on us a little bit. We were We were much

1924
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 1: better than Wesley. Guy now well I used to three

1925
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Speaker 1: to ninety seven. I coach baseball and I coached football

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01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 1: in ninety seven, ninety six, ninety seven. Let's let's check

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Speaker 1: in with La again, our third caller from the beautiful

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Speaker 1: state of California and Los Angeles. There, hold on chat button,

1929
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Speaker 1: all right, there are chat Hey, what's going on? Hey?

1930
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Speaker 1: How are you guys doing good? I got so enthralled

1931
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 1: in turkey talk I almost forgot about the pat Um

1932
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:38,839
Speaker 1: that's the idea. I Um My question though, is about,

1933
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 1: um the little spell that mac Jones had with the

1934
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: injury during the game. Um, have you guys talked about

1935
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: that at all? And then, you know, has there been

1936
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: any zappy talk since what injury we're talking about in

1937
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 1: this dam? Yes, there was, there was something with his ankle.

1938
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 1: I think during the game he did go down a

1939
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:06,679
Speaker 1: little bit awkwardly on a scramble on one play, But yeah,

1940
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 1: didn't didn't seem to. I didn't notice. I didn't even

1941
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 1: notice any histrionics with that one. I didn't wasn't an

1942
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 1: injured port yesterday. No, I didn't really notice anything. Um. Yeah,

1943
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything anything with Bailey Zappie coming

1944
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: that I'd be stunned. No, thanks, Chad, um Claire. I

1945
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: think he continues to move reasonably well, like you know,

1946
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: considering he had a high ankle sprain and missed the

1947
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 1: time that he did from the day he came back

1948
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: against Chicago. Yeah, I do not see mobility as being

1949
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: a huge issue. I thought I thought this was the

1950
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 1: this game. He looked like he had some pocket presents back.

1951
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:43,680
Speaker 1: It looked like he had a couple of throws. He

1952
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:45,600
Speaker 1: took a couple of steps, he delivered it with with

1953
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 1: guys kind of closing in around him. It didn't look

1954
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:49,640
Speaker 1: like he was panicking as much as as maybe he

1955
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 1: did in the past. But um Claire writes in Hello everyone,

1956
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 1: harmering after the game, haven't tweeted out his prediction of

1957
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 1: the old line now going forward left to Trent cole

1958
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 1: Farns and when you could just, of course David Andrews

1959
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: could throw a wrench in that with his amazing ability

1960
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 1: to get back out there. Do you all think this

1961
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 1: would be a good idea to sacrifice an extra spot

1962
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 1: to cannon like in flex to help out could just

1963
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 1: seem to struggle, and we know strange has issues when

1964
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 1: there's no Andrews. Um I'll sure what she meant by

1965
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 1: the canons still on, still on, irm, But I just

1966
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm number one, number two. I think you could make

1967
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: a strong argument that out of all of the performances

1968
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,759
Speaker 1: of individual offensive lineman, he'd be among the worst. Cannon

1969
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: I know, and I think just has been better than

1970
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: Cannon and to day, I know, And that's what I

1971
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 1: was going to say. I mean, that was I kind

1972
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 1: of had like that like false hope of like I

1973
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 1: don't know, we haven't seen yadmikns just yet. Eke. I

1974
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 1: mean that was like it's just as bad. And that's

1975
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 1: what's just so frustrating. It's been a problem. I mean,

1976
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 1: the past protection is an issue. I know they're the

1977
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 1: sixth ranked offensive line in football, but it really just

1978
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 1: makes you wonder, like why the past protection has been

1979
01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 1: an issue? It just the yeah I did that on purpose. Yes.

1980
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 1: The way I think the biggest thing is with the

1981
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:08,640
Speaker 1: tackle play is that on some of these plays, like

1982
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback just doesn't have a chance. Right. It's not

1983
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:13,719
Speaker 1: even just that, Okay, if you give up a sack,

1984
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 1: you know, three and a half seconds into the down,

1985
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, well, you know, get the ball

1986
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: out QB, right, But when your quarterback gets hit at

1987
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: two point three seconds after the snap, it's like, like

1988
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,640
Speaker 1: we we gotta get more of an effort than that.

1989
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 1: I mean, there was one play. One of the sacks

1990
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:32,600
Speaker 1: happened in two point seven seconds and both tackles end

1991
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 1: up flat on their faces, both tackles, And I'm just

1992
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, like embarrassing, we just got in the

1993
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 1: first play of the game was a sack. I was like,

1994
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: it's gonna be, but it depends on our season, Like

1995
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 1: they've just been the liability all year. What do you

1996
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: think happened on that first play, because I mean, I know,

1997
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 1: look sometimes like offenses, they mirror plays and they'll and

1998
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 1: they'll do different things on each side, and if it's

1999
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 1: a certain coverage, they'll go to one side. But like

2000
01:39:56,320 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 1: that opening play, Cole Strange is pulling out its like

2001
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 1: there was going to be like a little screen pass

2002
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: of some sort. But Matt just doesn't even really he

2003
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: looks that off instantly and looks to the right side,

2004
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:08,719
Speaker 1: and either of those guys are even open. He clutches

2005
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 1: it once and then boom, he's on the ground. It's

2006
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 1: a package play, so you have a it's kind of

2007
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 1: like a guarpo, except it's a screen instead of a run.

2008
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 1: So they have a screen to one side and then

2009
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: they have two routes to the other side, and just

2010
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 1: based off of C. J. Mosley as the player that

2011
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 1: he's reading in the middle of the defense, if Mosley

2012
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 1: goes out towards the screen, then he's going to come

2013
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 1: to the routes on the back side. If he stays

2014
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:33,719
Speaker 1: in the middle, he's going to throw the screen because

2015
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 1: it's a number. It's a numbers game right now. I

2016
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 1: thought that they probably might have had the numbers anyways

2017
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 1: on the screen if he wanted to throw it the safety,

2018
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 1: the deep safety would have been unblocked. But that's kind

2019
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: of that's Damian Harris's guy, right, Like, you got to

2020
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: make somebody miss at some point. So I think maybe

2021
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 1: they could have still thrown the screen. But I think

2022
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: what he was expecting to happen when he came off

2023
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 1: the screen and came back to Hunter Henry and then

2024
01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 1: they were bringing the blitz. I think he thought Hunter

2025
01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 1: he was going to look for the ball right away,

2026
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 1: and instead Hunter Henry still kind of went into the

2027
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 1: route right and if he was looking right if if

2028
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry gets his head around right away and they

2029
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 1: just hit it, you know, at two or three yards

2030
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 1: instead of you know, six yards, then maybe that play

2031
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 1: would have been available just because the blitz comes in

2032
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 1: the safety to over the top is taking Hunter, Henry

2033
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: and man coverage in YadA, YadA, YadA. But yeah, it

2034
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 1: was a cool like I don't mind the play design.

2035
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 1: I honestly, I think it's kind of a cool thing

2036
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 1: to do if they can execute it properly. But they

2037
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 1: just I think, you know, time and time again, when

2038
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,560
Speaker 1: it comes to blitz pressure, it just doesn't seem like

2039
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 1: everybody is aware that the opponent is blitzing. And it

2040
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 1: goes back to Week one against Miami on the strip

2041
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: sack right right off out of the gate. It just

2042
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like they are aware that, okay, blitz is coming,

2043
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,679
Speaker 1: like now I gotta get out of this break faster.

2044
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: I gotta get my head around quicker. And some of

2045
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 1: the checkdowns too that they designed also, like you know,

2046
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 1: everybody's like check it down, check it down. It's like

2047
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 1: Remandre's back is still to the quarterback like he's not

2048
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: even in his route yet. So they got to get

2049
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 1: some of these things faster, right, Everything needs just needs

2050
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: to be faster. Um with the way that they they

2051
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 1: are running their routes in the timing of the passing game,

2052
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 1: Kareem Rights in first, give me a little shout out, says,

2053
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like Drew Bledsoe in two thousand and

2054
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 1: one replacing Tom Brady in the AFC Championship. Here with

2055
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 1: my stellar hosting, I would want to go to Super

2056
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:29,600
Speaker 1: Bowls couplet A couple couple of near interceptions there to

2057
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 1: James Harrison, Um, but is that question, do you feel

2058
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 1: confident in the Patriots winning any of the remaining games?

2059
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 1: Some of them are clearly harder than the rest. Uh,

2060
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 1: But I can't see the Patriots being favored in any

2061
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 1: and they certainly won't be favored probably. I mean maybe

2062
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 1: maybe in Arizona, but I don't know about Arizona in Vegas.

2063
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 1: But there's a chance. But yeah, they'll win games. They're

2064
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: not gonna go winless the rest of them. They're not

2065
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: gonna lose the last seven games. I feel confident. They're

2066
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: feel really confident in that. I feel confident they're gonna

2067
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 1: be Minnesota and they're gonna win one of Arizona in Vegas.

2068
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 1: I I would feel very confident about that, probably with Arizona.

2069
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,719
Speaker 1: I just think the question is is two Buffalo, one Miami,

2070
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 1: and one Cincinnati and those are, you know, the good

2071
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 1: teams in the AFC. I don't know, I really don't

2072
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 1: know what should have three of those at home? But

2073
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: will it matter? So you shouldn't lose all four of

2074
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 1: those games. They should three of them at home. They

2075
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 1: should win both of the West Coast games. They should

2076
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,600
Speaker 1: beat Arizona, and they should beat the Raiders. They have

2077
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 1: the Raiders one I think is a little sneaky, just

2078
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 1: because of the McDaniels angle, and that game is going

2079
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 1: to obviously mean a lot to him, and Belichick's record

2080
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: against his former assistance is not very good, especially the

2081
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 1: first time that they play, so there's that angle to it.

2082
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 1: But they're they're a better team than both those teams

2083
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 1: and Arizona's and as much shambles as Vegas is right now,

2084
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:45,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if Cliff Kingsbury is going

2085
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 1: to make it there, but their injury situation, to me

2086
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 1: is worrisome because if those guys come back, Yeah, if

2087
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 1: you get Kyler Murray back and he has a full compliment,

2088
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 1: then I would say that they're capable of scoring points. Yeah.

2089
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 1: I think they're deeps are both bad Cardinals, and I

2090
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 1: just think that there's something about Kyler, And I know

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01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: the last time they played him, he was a little

2092
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:07,640
Speaker 1: banged up in that game too. He had like an

2093
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: ankle or something like that, so he wasn't he wasn't

2094
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 1: running at one hundred percent. So I know that mobile

2095
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 1: quarterback ankles going to terrify people with Kyler, But with

2096
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you know, there's like an area of the

2097
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 1: field that they're just not going to throw too. And

2098
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 1: that's like the middle of the field for Kyler because

2099
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 1: he's a little bit of a short guy. Yeah, and

2100
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 1: so he's just not going to throw it to the middle,

2101
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: the short middle or the really the intermediates, intermediate middle,

2102
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 1: eitherstring hamstring. That's a weird quarterback. Yeah whatever. I just

2103
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:46,560
Speaker 1: think that if he plays, they have the ability to

2104
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 1: score twenty points. Yeah. And if they scored twenty points,

2105
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 1: you can beat the Patriots. I'm like, it's too high,

2106
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying I'm not telling you that twenty

2107
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 1: will win. I'm saying if you can score twenty against

2108
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you have a very good chance of winning. Yeah.

2109
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,799
Speaker 1: Brennan for Nettington, it's a little little physic, isn't very Canadian?

2110
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 1: Is mac Jones the fourth best Jones on the team.

2111
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's why. Maybe he's a second. I still

2112
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: think he's got the two rookies. I don't know about

2113
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 1: Jay Jones though he's j Jones is balling out right now?

2114
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 1: Which one there's two? John Johnny Johnny. We call him

2115
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 1: Johnny around here. Um. Another one here from Eric from

2116
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 1: ams am Hurstberg, am Hurstberg. That's that's a new one. Um.

2117
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: I agree with Evan on the play calling. The old

2118
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 1: line play calling looks like my friends playing Madden. They

2119
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 1: call random plays and hope it works. I feel like

2120
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 1: that's what Maddie p is doing. Get an all old

2121
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 1: line and a real play caller and see how our

2122
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 1: offense works with any QB. I prefer Mac, but don't

2123
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 1: care who plays as long as we keep winning. Happy Thanksgiving.

2124
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 1: There was no question in that one. I kind of

2125
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 1: why I took that, you know, I started walking down though.

2126
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 1: That's like the ass There a question here, thoughts. They

2127
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 1: just love to give their take. Thoughts. Yeah, here's my take.

2128
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 1: Ye what do you think? Do you agree with my comment?

2129
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:00,560
Speaker 1: Talk about my take, talk about it, talk about it

2130
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 1: all right, hopefully hopefully right. From Saint Louis, got a

2131
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 1: good question in here. I'm gonna jump right in one

2132
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 1: question off the top of all your heads, what is

2133
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 1: the biggest head scratching decision Bill has made of all

2134
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 1: time that you can remember. Mine would be in the

2135
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 1: wildcard game against the Titans when we didn't have a

2136
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 1: returner back to receive the punt, forcing us to try

2137
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 1: and make a comeback deep in our own territory that

2138
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:22,599
Speaker 1: isn't had market Jones. Then that is your most head

2139
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 1: scratching decision he's ever made. Bill. Yeah, I think we're

2140
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 1: living it right now. I think this is it for me.

2141
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 1: That's my sweet spot. Malcolm not playing against I was

2142
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 1: gonna say that's one big one for me personally, that

2143
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 1: one kicking in overtime against the Jets, putting Chris Harper

2144
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 1: back to return to punt up fourteen, and now the

2145
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 1: Titans wild card game with not putting her return her back,

2146
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 1: that's the biggest I'm sorry, mortar kick up fourteen against

2147
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,679
Speaker 1: Philadelphia at fifty. You could play the Hits running Stephen

2148
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:57,640
Speaker 1: Jackson one hundred and eleven straight plays when all you

2149
01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 1: need to do is win a game and get the

2150
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 1: number one sit. There's a lot fourth and two we've

2151
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 1: really tell you this is this is Miami miracle. Yeah.

2152
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 1: Another one that's certainly a special place for Malcolm Butler

2153
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:12,919
Speaker 1: because it's a super Bowl and that was a competitive

2154
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 1: and this is a conversation about number two. Tom Brady

2155
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 1: is the best player in the history of the papers

2156
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 1: have gone by Butler and I still don't know Jack,

2157
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 1: but like the other ones, are all individual bad in

2158
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 1: game weird decisions like this for me right now with

2159
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: the offensive situation, when you had a first round quarterback

2160
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 1: and you were just kind of like, let's see what

2161
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 1: top five this is? This to me, top five is major.

2162
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 1: It's played out exactly like it did in our worst

2163
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 1: nightmares coming into this season. And I don't know how

2164
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 1: much confidence I have to think. I think you can

2165
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 1: make the argument that Malcolm Butler also had a long

2166
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 1: term impact like that they got I'm not gonna say

2167
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:51,759
Speaker 1: they got lucky and eighteen, but they kind of struck

2168
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 1: lightning in eighteen. I don't think they thought that team

2169
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 1: was going to win a Super Bowl. But that was

2170
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 1: the beginning of the end. To me, like that, that

2171
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 1: was sort of the beginning of the end of Brady

2172
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 1: wanting to leave in the first place, so in that respect,

2173
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with Mike that this decision to

2174
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:10,639
Speaker 1: mess with Max development, with this set up on offense

2175
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 1: has a long term impact on the franchise beyond this season,

2176
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 1: Like this could have put them back another five years,

2177
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, if he if they end up, if they

2178
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: end up ruining him, absolutely, and then they have to

2179
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 1: start all over again, and big picture things like that.

2180
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's one hundred years ago now, but um,

2181
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:30,879
Speaker 1: the O six season and going in and saying, yeah, sure, we'll,

2182
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, we'll let David Gibbons walk in free agency,

2183
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll you know, we're not going to

2184
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 1: give de Branch anything and we'll we'll Kyle Taw and

2185
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: trade him. And then we're gonna chase wide receivers all

2186
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 1: the year and as a result, we're going to be

2187
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 1: a wildcard team and as a results of that, we're

2188
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna be on the road back to back weeks in

2189
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs and blow a chance to win a Super

2190
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 1: Bowl because that hanging, said riche Calwell catches the ball,

2191
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: we're not talking about no, no, But if that game's

2192
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 1: not in Indianapolis, we're not talking about this. Yes, and

2193
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 1: that game shouldn't have been piping in odd noise. Don't

2194
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 1: forget the flu that they were pumping into and get

2195
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: the flu. The whole team got the flu. The whole

2196
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: store got the flu. Speed rights, and happy Thanksgiving to

2197
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 1: you all, even Evan Speed. He wrote that at the

2198
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 1: tail end of the postgame show, Fred said the following,

2199
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 1: I think that God, wait, what is that that? I

2200
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 1: spell that on my shirt? Now? I think that if

2201
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 1: the things Mac were responsible for we're looking okay, people

2202
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't be as freaked out because you can fix the

2203
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 1: other things. But when your quarterback is having trouble, now

2204
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:32,599
Speaker 1: you suck. Even though Mac was thoroughly average on Sunday,

2205
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,639
Speaker 1: I feel seen by Fred question how different similar does

2206
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 1: Max seem this year too, relative to post back post

2207
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 1: by Mac last year? Speed, buddy, that's topee tough. I

2208
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 1: respect the hustle, but we gotta we gotta move on

2209
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 1: from this this conversation, Like we gotta let it go,

2210
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 1: Speed Okay, Like we all are on board peace that

2211
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 1: that Mac has not been playing well, but he gave

2212
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 1: you no no, because it's just every single time it's

2213
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 1: how bad is Mac? Now? Like he's not been good?

2214
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 1: Like how it is he compared to post By Mac

2215
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, I don't know, but you know,

2216
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 1: one of the few that talks like that, like it's

2217
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 1: past protection, it's coaching. He hasn't been good. You include that.

2218
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 1: A lot of the people don't. Yeah, he hasn't been good.

2219
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 1: I think that what I have learned and this is

2220
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 1: not are shattering or something that a lot of second

2221
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 1: year quarterbacks aren't in the same exact bucket. I mean,

2222
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:36,600
Speaker 1: we just watched another second year quarterback play probably the

2223
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:39,760
Speaker 1: worst football game I've ever seen a quarterback play in

2224
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,719
Speaker 1: a while, when Zach Wilson. So it's not like he's alone,

2225
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:47,719
Speaker 1: but he's a product, like I hate to call system quarterback.

2226
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 1: I hate using that that phrase, but like he's a

2227
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 1: product of things going well around him. And I think

2228
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:55,519
Speaker 1: you know, when things are are going well around him

2229
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,520
Speaker 1: in the offense, is is well coached and well coordinated,

2230
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:01,640
Speaker 1: and the offensive line and can protect and then he

2231
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 1: can distribute the ball. I mean, Hunter Henry said it

2232
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 1: to us after the game. When we keep him clean

2233
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 1: and we give him opportunities to make throws, he's great. Yeah,

2234
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 1: they know it, Like you know, he's saying right to

2235
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 1: our faces. Like, when this guy gets under pressure, he's

2236
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:18,600
Speaker 1: not very good, you know, and that's that's that's the

2237
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:20,600
Speaker 1: book right now, right. I mean, he's one of the

2238
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 1: worst passers in the league while under pressure. So he's

2239
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 1: not doing anything to elevate a bad situation. There's there's

2240
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. No. But but I think what

2241
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 1: we saw from him against the Jets is, you know,

2242
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 1: kind of what you want. That's what I wanted to

2243
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 1: get to that too before we finished. Like, I think

2244
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,560
Speaker 1: that that was kind of kind of a return to

2245
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: what he did when he was at his best last year.

2246
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 1: You know, twenty three for twenty seven, you know, two

2247
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:52,719
Speaker 1: hundred and nothing even close to a turnover, right, he didn't.

2248
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 1: He didn't throw anything anywhere near harm's ways keep going.

2249
01:51:57,479 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 1: I know he took six sex. Yeah, and I think

2250
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 1: that's part of of the browbeating of stop turning the

2251
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 1: ball over, and that's why you're not throwing the ball

2252
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: away at times when I think you have a chance.

2253
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you had a chance six times to

2254
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 1: throw the ball away, but I think at least one

2255
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:13,680
Speaker 1: once when they were in field goal range on the

2256
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 1: field goal that hit the crossbar. I think it was

2257
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 1: one of them. So what I'm what I'm getting at

2258
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:22,559
Speaker 1: is this was a little bit of a departure from

2259
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:24,679
Speaker 1: the way they were going about the passing game earlier

2260
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 1: in the year, when people were saying, why don't they

2261
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:28,680
Speaker 1: get back to what they would do in last year?

2262
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 1: It worked? No, it didn't. Yeah, and it didn't work

2263
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 1: Sunday either. It looked better. The numbers looked great, twenty

2264
01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:39,600
Speaker 1: three for twenty seven. Anybody would sign up for that

2265
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 1: any day of the week. Nine yards per tien absolutely

2266
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 1: three points and I'll even say should have had nine points.

2267
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 1: They missed two field goals, yeah, right, the one that

2268
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,640
Speaker 1: he's doing good enough, the one that he's doing you know,

2269
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 1: he wants Nelson Agalore on a on a corner route

2270
01:52:57,439 --> 01:53:03,560
Speaker 1: against cover two, and it's not not there, right Like,

2271
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 1: it's not it's decent coverage and it's a little bit

2272
01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 1: of like a contested throw, there's no doubt about it.

2273
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 1: But you know, if he puts that ball in a

2274
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 1: Nelson or Nobody spot, right like, either Nelson's gonna go

2275
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 1: up and catch us, make a great catch along the sideline,

2276
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 1: or it's going to be incomplete and there's there's no

2277
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 1: in between. Then I think that there's a chance that

2278
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 1: at the worst it sails out of bounds and they

2279
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal from a shorter distance, and at

2280
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:34,719
Speaker 1: the best, Nelson Agiler does what against did against Pittsburgh

2281
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: and losses the guy and catches a touchdown. So there's

2282
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 1: those types of throws on the tape now that he's

2283
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 1: not pulling the trigger on because I think those interceptions

2284
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 1: happened earlier in the season when he was trying to

2285
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 1: make those types of throws, and in his mind, he's thinking,

2286
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, Nick folks nails like, we're forty four yard

2287
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 1: field goal from this spot, and I agree with Paul

2288
01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 1: that he should have taken in the wind into account,

2289
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 1: but in his he's saying, anything inside forty five Nick

2290
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,639
Speaker 1: is putting through. So I'm just gonna take a sack

2291
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: and we're gonna kick the field goal and get these

2292
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 1: three points. Now, knowing the situation in the game and

2293
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 1: the conditions of the weather and all that kind of stuff, like,

2294
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that should have been different. But I

2295
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 1: think a quarterback with more confidence, in a quarterback that

2296
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:23,800
Speaker 1: isn't so concerned about turnovers, probably dots that throwing Nelson

2297
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 1: Agilor and we're talking about something totally different. And I

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01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 1: just bring it up because I feel like there's been

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01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism of why the wholesale changes, and

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01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 1: I think that the thought process was we need to

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01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:41,520
Speaker 1: find a way to be more dangerous. Yeah, And I

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01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:44,160
Speaker 1: think this was a glimpse of a lot of things

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01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 1: going on. Right. This is why a lot of people

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01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:48,879
Speaker 1: look at that game and said, oh I saw progress,

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01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 1: because it looked different. Yeah, Like it wasn't one hundred

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01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 1: and forty yards passing, it wasn't like fifty eight percent completions,

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01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't three turnovers, but good plays like Baltimore. But

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01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 1: the result is you didn't score, just like you didn't

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01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 1: score against Indianapolis the previous week, and you didn't score

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01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:08,080
Speaker 1: against the Jets the week before that. Yeah, So yeah,

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01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 1: it might look different, but I think this is what

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01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 1: the coaches were thinking when they decided to try to

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01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 1: make some changes to the office. Now it hasn't worked.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying like, see, it wasn't right

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01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, like Evan said, when turning the

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01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 1: ball over at an alarming rate. Yeah, well you don't

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01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: want that either, Like my hope is that you saw

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01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 1: a game kind of like old Mac last week, Like,

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01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, can he re establish that confidence and get

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01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 1: him back to feeling all right, I know what I'm doing.

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01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 1: And that's why I go back to, like, do we

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01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 1: really need to tear up the whole offense? Like could

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01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 1: we have not kind of stuck with similar kind of

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01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 1: stuff that we were we saw in the last game

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01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 1: of what he does well and say, we know we

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01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 1: have to get more explosive, but that doesn't mean we

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01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 1: can just rip everything up and start from scratch and

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01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 1: try to figure out again what he's actually good at.

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01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 1: Like I just wonder if they didn't bring enough from

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01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 1: what they were successful with last year into this kind

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01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 1: of new plan and they say, nope, we're starting that's

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01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 1: fair and build off of these, you know, these wrinkles

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01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 1: that I think that they you know, they got some

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01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 1: chunk plays, build off of that finds, you know, you

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01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 1: find two or three other things that you can have

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01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 1: success with. Now you have opponents in the last five

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01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 1: or six weeks saying we got to account for this, this,

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01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 1: and this that we didn't have to account for last

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01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 1: year or earlier this year because they having success with it. No,

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01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 1: no defense wants to give up thirty yard plays. And

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01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:26,160
Speaker 1: I think, I mean they had, like Jets defense is

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01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 1: designed to do the axact opposite, and they had and

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01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 1: they had like they had like a third of the

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01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 1: yards on four plays the other day, like they had

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01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 1: I think twenty six, twenty two, thirty and twenty four

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01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 1: something like they had like one hundred yards on four plays. Yeah,

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01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 1: it's frustrating because that that throw to Agle or like

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01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 1: early season, Mac pulls the trigger like he rips it

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01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 1: and as it completed, as it intercepted, like that was

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01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 1: the fifty fifty element of what was going on in

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01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 1: the first three weeks of the season. But I really

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01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 1: believe that early season Mac rips that throw. What was

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01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 1: the what was the hundred one you said he missed? Yeah,

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01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 1: so there was one. Two Hunter Henry James Ferrins does

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01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 1: get beat very very quickly by by Quinnin Williams. So

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01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, but with Hunter Henry that

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01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 1: the route combination worked right, Like they run acrosser with

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01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 1: john it's twelve personnel and they have the two tight

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01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 1: ends together on the same side of the formation and

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01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 1: Johnny one runs one way Ramandre runs into the flat

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01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 1: to kind of stretch that that zone underneath, and Hunter

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01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 1: Henry is just gonna like curl it up in between

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01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 1: the two zones and he's there. And if Mac throws

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01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 1: it with a little bit of anticipation and trust that

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01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry is just going to come out of that

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01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 1: route and curl up and make that catch, the play

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01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 1: should have worked. Now. I will allow for the fact

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01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 1: that Quinn Williams might have batted the ball down into

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01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 1: Mac's face because he's right there already, or whatever the

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01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 1: case may be, but the throw was there for him

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01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:55,280
Speaker 1: to make it. I thought he got a little bit

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01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 1: of happy feet there in the pocket. Now, I think

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01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 1: that overall, although I I'm nitpicking by putting two of

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01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 1: these sacks on Mac, if I'm being honest, it's probably

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01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: more like one and a half because I think that

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01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 1: that one quinnin was in the backfield awfully quickly. But

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01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:16,160
Speaker 1: there's just no no trust, there's no anticipation to his

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01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 1: game right now where everything needs to be. It needs

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01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 1: to be open for him to want to make that throw,

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01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 1: and if it's a little bit dicey, he's not throwing it.

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01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:28,760
Speaker 1: Opportunities to get right against Minnesota for Mac Jones, they're

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01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 1: allowing the second most passing yards in the league to

2383
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 1: play action ten point two yards per attempt against play action.

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01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 1: So this is a zone it's a zone coverage system.

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01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 1: They runs a lot of zone. They're they're bad against

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01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 1: play action because they're a fast defense that wants to

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01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 1: fly around and if you can get them with misdirection

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01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:49,960
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, you can beat them. And the

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01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:52,200
Speaker 1: other thing I would say, this is one of those

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01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 1: games from a passing game standpoint that you're in a

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01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 1: dome and I need to see some things from from

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01:58:57,840 --> 01:59:00,960
Speaker 1: Mac in the passing game from this no excuses, Like

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01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:02,960
Speaker 1: it's like when they go down Stevenson as a receiver

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01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 1: after what Paullard did, Yeah, you could do some of that.

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01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's like what they did, you know down

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01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 1: in Houston, Like I think Cam's like best passing game

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01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 1: was in like Seattle and Houston, like you know, and

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01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 1: the weather was nice in Seattle and then Houston. They're

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01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 1: playing in a dome and like you know, when you

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01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 1: play these games and domes, like you should be able

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01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 1: to throw the ball. This is not going to be

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01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 1: can't playing the wind on them? Having a bad passing day.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for us. The playbook

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