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Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and Matt.

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Speaker 3: Earlier earlier in the week, we did a mock draft

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Speaker 3: where we said, Okay, this is what happens if Russell

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Speaker 3: Wilson is still the quarterback, how we do things. This

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Speaker 3: is how we'll go if Justin Fields was the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: To entertained. Something else that we talked about earlier in

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Speaker 3: the week, what if George Pickens actually is traded.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, you'd have more picks.

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Speaker 3: We would have more books, and we can actually do this.

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Speaker 3: I'm working off of the Pro Football Focus mock drafter here.

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Speaker 2: Now we have to at least operate under the assumption

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Speaker 2: that they signed somebody by draft.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't, right, you wouldn't. You wouldn't go into the

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Speaker 3: draft with nobody. Yeah, right, But you would obviously still

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Speaker 3: need to add to the room a lot. All right,

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I'm gonna offer George Pickens up here

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Speaker 3: as a potential player.

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Speaker 2: How does that work? Like? Well, teams say there are

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Speaker 2: five teams interested, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, they just if we put them out there, who

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Speaker 3: do we want to try to who? Who do we

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Speaker 3: think would be interested?

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Speaker 2: Well, Washington was one. We talked about them day, the

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Speaker 2: Chargers Like Chargers, Patriots.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna try to trade them to New England.

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Speaker 2: If he's gonna go, that's fine with me.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's let's try New England. They've got the highest

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Speaker 3: second round, right, we're not gonna get a first for him.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think.

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Speaker 3: But if I offer Pickens to the Patriots for the

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Speaker 3: thirty eighth overall pick, they won't do that.

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Speaker 2: Mm. I mean they're third's nice, but I need a

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Speaker 2: lot of other stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if I if I put the if I put

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Speaker 3: the third on there, yeah, they'll take that. They'll do that.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to go that route that. Yeah, So

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Speaker 3: we're gonna move on from the Patriots. Raiders know Jets,

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Speaker 3: No Panthers Racers. No, I don't see the Raiders going

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Speaker 2: There's a lot. I'm not sure how many teams would

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Speaker 2: not be interested. Well, that's true, you know, good point

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Speaker 2: by Carolina Panthers. I think they like their young guys.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Saints No, yeah, resources Bears, no forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 3: No Cowboys, Yes, all right, let's let's try the Cowboys at.

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Speaker 2: Mel mock them.

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Speaker 3: Receiver that has a fifteen percent chance of being accepted

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Speaker 3: just for their two.

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Speaker 2: Not high.

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Speaker 3: No Dolphins, no Colts.

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Speaker 2: Pittman could be on the block, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's a fit. Falcons, No, they lay Mooney, Cardinals, probably

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Speaker 2: not Bengals. No, you're not gonna trade with any division Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: Metcalf would have to be involved.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, let's let's try that. We put Metcalfe on

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Speaker 3: there to add a twenty nine percent chance that that

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Speaker 3: will be accepted. So we would have to add the juice.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure you would in the real world, do

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Speaker 2: because the contract age? Yeah? Am I interested in adding juice?

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Speaker 3: No? Nor am I?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: So not the Seahawks Bucks.

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Speaker 2: No, only if God would have left by that. Yeah, Denver,

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Speaker 2: probably not. I think they're into mems and the guys

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Speaker 2: that kind of developed. That brings us to the Chargers

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Speaker 2: in Yeah, let's sell about their second. Let's see what

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Speaker 2: they will do the fifty fourth pickle. It's a mid

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Speaker 2: second though, it's a mid second they're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: give me some juice.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I need some more.

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Speaker 2: Get one of those, get rid of a seventh.

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Speaker 3: If I go with their fourth round pick, which is

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Speaker 3: at one twenty two, they'll do that. Potentially, there's a

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Speaker 3: sixty four percent chance they would accept that for pickings.

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Speaker 2: Oh for fun, let's do that, all right? They did

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Speaker 2: it two and a four. We've got two and a four.

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Speaker 2: I mean that makes Chargers a better team, no doubt, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't love making an AFC team that

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we got a two and a four. Okay,

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Speaker 3: twenty one, the top players available?

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Speaker 2: All right, who's our? Is there anybody signed? We at

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Speaker 2: least have. There's got to be something something. Okay, there's

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Speaker 3: Is we have a we have a not a comparable start.

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Speaker 2: Say it's Christian Kirk. Okay, I mean it's not that.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be Godwin, it doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: be Higgins. Let's say it's Christian Kirk and you have

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Speaker 2: a quarterback. Yeah, okay, okay, now you have a lot

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Speaker 2: of picks. Though, now you got more picks. I'm definitely

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Speaker 2: in the receiver market right as the early is this pick?

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Speaker 3: So the top players available Benjamin Morrison, Interesting, Shamar Stewart,

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Speaker 3: Armand de Membu, Matthew Golden, Marion Hampton. Now this is

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Speaker 3: off of their rankings.

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Speaker 2: Which side is this? This is on Pro Football Focus?

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Speaker 3: Marion Hampton, Nick Scourton, Tyler Williams, Josh Connery, John A

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Speaker 3: bar Baron, Colston Loveland, Demetrius Knight, Trey Amos, Chavon, Revel,

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Speaker 3: Donovan disouriko Alick yaman or Yeah, yeah, alec a Nieman

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Speaker 3: with some of these names. I could see them in

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Speaker 3: my head and then when it comes out, it's just

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Speaker 3: a garbled word soup. We have three trade offers. The

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Speaker 3: Vikings are on the phone Oka they got picked twenty four,

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Speaker 3: The Lions are on the phone it picked twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: On the phone.

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Speaker 3: At pick fifty two, we're not going to.

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Speaker 2: Consider Yeah, only five first round pick?

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Speaker 3: Would I consider twenty four?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Of the available names, Morrison was my favorite, but

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Speaker 2: also Ravel was there, right, yeah, I mean there was

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Speaker 2: a couple of corners and the there were three corners

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Speaker 2: that I thought were all fine. The receivers aren't great,

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Speaker 2: But we don't have to do that on day two. Right,

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Speaker 2: let's go chat with the bikes. All right, that's the

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Speaker 3: I've got them on the phone here. Now, their problem

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Speaker 3: is is they have picked twenty four. They have a

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Speaker 3: projected compick at ninety seven, and then they have Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: Cleveland's fourth round pick. You'd have to be a future pick.

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Speaker 3: It has to be a future pick. So if we

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Speaker 2: I think that has to be the opening office.

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Speaker 3: It has to be twenty eight and sixty for twenty

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Speaker 3: one or I'm not interested. And there's only a thirty

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Speaker 3: my seventh that that takes up bumps up to thirty four.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to offer it and see if they accept it.

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Speaker 3: They do not, so we're drafting a player.

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Speaker 2: Okay, one of the corners is my favorite?

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Speaker 3: You like Morrison better than Amos or Revel. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think they're all fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say I don't know them well, and I

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Speaker 3: The medicals are good, I think Morrison's the guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and they all would be fine,

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Speaker 2: which is why I was interested in trading down. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: real quick, can we talk to the Vikings still? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What if we got twenty four? Okay, they're camp Okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean they would do that right now. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: they'd have to throw in a sweetener for me. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I know, next year three or four and we throw

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Speaker 3: Next year's threes looks like a non starter for them

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Speaker 3: unless I can throw in our fifth round pick next year,

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Speaker 3: and that only takes up to thirty five percent chance.

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Speaker 2: How about next year's four?

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Speaker 3: Now we're getting that makes it forty four percent.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's just take the more. Let's take Morrison,

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Speaker 2: take the player that you vikes. Don't have any other

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if we were healthy and it played

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Speaker 3: but he might be pressing to be the number one cornerback.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if he's at the combine and stuff, he

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Speaker 2: might be a top eight player. Yeah, I mean if

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Speaker 2: he's looking good well before the draft.

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Speaker 3: All right, So we're up at fifty three.

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Speaker 2: We have fifty three, eighty five, one, twenty one, one

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Speaker 2: sixty three, two, twenty five and two forty nine is

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Speaker 2: what shouldn't we have? Two seconds? We didn't trade traded pickings?

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Speaker 2: Oh we did? Why did that not go? Apparently? Yeah

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Speaker 2: it didn't go? Okay, so we still got picking.

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Speaker 3: I must not have hit.

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Speaker 2: Could we trade him now?

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Speaker 3: We could do that?

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Speaker 2: We can? Who do we trade him to? Again?

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Speaker 3: We traded? We traded them? Yeah? How did I mess

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Speaker 3: It hasn't?

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Speaker 3: Cool, I must have not hit.

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Speaker 2: Should we try to get more than a two and

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Speaker 3: We just did it? Yeah, okay, okay, so it's done.

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Speaker 3: So we have fifty three and fifty four.

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Speaker 3: That might work out better anyways, because now we know

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Speaker 3: So top players available, Jayleen Walker, Caleb Johnson, Kyle Cannard,

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Speaker 3: the addresser out of South Carolina, Jayden Higgins, wide receiver

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Speaker 2: I think we have to consider receiver soon we do.

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Speaker 2: We got two picks here, Yeah, yeah, Uh, Mason Taylor,

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Speaker 2: the tight end out of LSU, Jack Beck, the UH

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna I'm gonna look search and buy receiver.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna look at running back, I'm gonna look at

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Speaker 3: wide receiver, and just for that, I'm gonna throw a

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Speaker 3: defensive tackle one there. All right, So Caleb Johnson, Jayden Higgins,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. If we're sticking and picking, my suggestion is take

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Speaker 2: don't do receiver now, I'm not sure we might be

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Speaker 2: worse at receiver in twenty twenty five than we were

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: No, there's yeah, that's one of the problems with trading

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Speaker 3: pickens exactly.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: You know, people all just get rid of him, just

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Speaker 3: get rid of him. We get to replace him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, you know, and we have Christian Kirk Easier

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Speaker 3: Now Higgins gives you that size at six or four?

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Speaker 2: Would you consider both of them?

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I'd go back to back.

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Speaker 2: I think what's his face being there at the back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's.

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Speaker 2: Well, legit, he's the top three guys. Let's take him. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, Now we have the same decision here. Do

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Speaker 3: He's not he's like a four to five five guy,

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Speaker 3: right right right, but he's six and twenty pounds.

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Speaker 2: I'm not taking a little guy. Yeah, I promise you that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's do it, all right, And now we sit till

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Speaker 2: eighty four. Yeah, all right, so we're now back up

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure we're done at receiver. Oh I know,

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Speaker 3: I don't yeh know we are either. We've got a

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Speaker 3: of William and Mary nick Emuwari. I don't think he

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Speaker 3: should still be there.

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Speaker 2: But no, I probably shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he might destroy some of the workouts. Devin Neil,

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Speaker 3: Trey Harris is there, Quinn Shawn Jenkins, Trey Harris.

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Speaker 2: I'm done a running back for a while. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't hate it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I want to go necessarily that route.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to see what's what's your top four defensive

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Speaker 3: interior guys. I say, who your big dudes on the

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Speaker 3: JJ Pegas from Mississippi. He would be a defensive end. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's on No, Simmy and Barrow Junior from Miami. And

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Speaker 3: you're looking at a six three two ninety guy there,

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Speaker 3: Shamar Turner from Texas A and M, and then Riley

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Speaker 2: Drop off as the tackles got picked through. Pretty yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now West is more nosi ish, Okay, we might be

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Speaker 3: worth taking now though, yeah, probably not.

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Speaker 2: I can we can wait on that that we get

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Speaker 2: thump back to back picks at one, twenty one and two. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's our next one.

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Speaker 3: How about quarterback here?

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Speaker 2: I would certainly entertain that.

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Speaker 3: Top guy available is Will Howard.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I wouldn't object.

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Speaker 3: Then you got Riley Leonard Quinn yours, cal McCord to me.

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Speaker 3: Howard stands out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would nothing to do with right.

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Speaker 3: Take Will Howard.

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Speaker 2: I'll take Howard there. Yeah, yeah, why not we get

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Speaker 2: picks at one?

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Speaker 3: We filled a corner need.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, we've fed a slot safety or even a

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Speaker 2: little guy slot. Yeah, we have interest in.

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Speaker 3: So thus far we've got Benjamin Morris and Caleb Johnson,

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Speaker 3: Jayden Higgins, Will Howard.

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Speaker 2: You have not addressed defense attack.

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Speaker 3: We've not as arrested defensive tackle. And I think we

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Speaker 3: do that here, and I want well the top guys available.

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Speaker 3: Shamar Turner, he's still there. Yeah, then you get Riley

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Speaker 3: mill C. J. West.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite. I don't know a ton

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Speaker 2: about the three of them.

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Speaker 3: Other guys still available there, Darius Alexander out of Toledo.

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Speaker 3: They'll know plenty about him. Off he gets after it.

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Speaker 3: Cam Horsley from Boston College. They might know a little

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Speaker 3: bit about him too, for obvious reasons. Ty Robinson is

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Speaker 3: still there as well. I like him as an end guy,

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Speaker 3: an edge guy, the three back to back force. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we got one twenty one on one twenty two. If

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Speaker 3: you look at the the cornerback situation and safety, even

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Speaker 3: another receiver wouldn't be terrible here. Denzel Burke is there, okay. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Dorian Strong O'donald Fortune out of South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I don't think those guys are slots though. I mean

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Speaker 2: I think they're a lot like Trice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you got you got the big gut. Noel Williams

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Speaker 3: from col Jalen Smith out of USC.

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Speaker 2: Let's grab a d tackle.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Smith looks like a slot type guy. I just

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Speaker 3: want to see how much slot he played it. Well,

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Speaker 3: he was their primary slot the previous two years and

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Speaker 3: he bumped outside this year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's appealing. I'd like that. Two corners. Yeah, definitely, yes,

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Speaker 2: wrong is definitely not he's more outside.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's look at waders. If there's a wide receiver

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Speaker 3: still there that stands out. Antoine Wells Junior from Mississippi,

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Speaker 3: Karen Lacy from LSU. But he's not going to get drafted, folks,

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Speaker 3: nor Yeah, off the fields off Ricky White is there?

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Speaker 3: Ricky White's the UNLV guy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and uh six one got some speed to him.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't object at all. I mean that that's the

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Speaker 2: profile we're looking for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Caden Prather from Maryland is there?

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Speaker 2: Someone can get downfield? Man, we drafted a bigger, bigger,

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Speaker 2: bodied four or five guy. I wouldn't mind someone in

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Speaker 2: the one ninety range.

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Speaker 3: Let's take let's take Ricky White.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right? Now, we took a d tackle in White,

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Speaker 2: or we didn't maybe.

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Speaker 3: Take a defensive tackle. We pushed it down the road.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: Who do you like at defensive tackle? Or do you

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Speaker 3: want to wait? We got to pick at one sixty three?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to wait for that?

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Speaker 2: I would take the nosiest guy to me.

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Speaker 3: That is the Indiana guy. Okay, that is CJ. West?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I'm fine with that. Yeah, CJ.

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Speaker 3: West. It is. Add him to the mix and we're

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Speaker 3: up again that one sixty three, and I want to

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Speaker 3: see if my dude is there. Well, the other defensive

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Speaker 3: tackle is still available, ANDAs Peebles. Darius Alexander is still there,

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Speaker 3: Ty Robinson still there, Cam Horsley still.

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Speaker 2: There taking two defensive tackles.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with it. We took two receivers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we had extra picks here to do.

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Speaker 2: Right, No, right, it's kind of the beauty of it.

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Speaker 3: We took two wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't take two nosiest guys.

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Speaker 3: Now right now that we want to look, Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a deep tight end draft. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: mind developmental tackle. It's early to take that second running

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Speaker 2: back if you're going to do that. But a safety

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Speaker 2: wouldn't break my heart either.

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Speaker 3: Top tackle still available as Anthony Belton out of North

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Speaker 3: Carolina State. Okay, you got Holland Pierce out of Rutgers,

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Speaker 3: Xavier Trust out of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I don't all talking about the group, but you.

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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, how about tight end? You always like tight ends.

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Speaker 3: Luke Lachi is there.

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Speaker 2: I'm a fan. I'm a fan.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take him here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Mitchell Evans from Notre Dame still there's.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm a big Mitchell Evans, five Texas.

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Speaker 3: When do you like better?

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Speaker 2: Evans? All right?

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Speaker 3: Mitchell Evans is the pick. Notre Dame tight ends typically

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Speaker 3: hit two.

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Speaker 2: He's like two sixty five. He had a bad injury

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Speaker 2: that he came back from. Is getting better and better.

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Speaker 2: His sister is a volleyball player at Georgia. His mom

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Speaker 2: was a volleyball player in the MAC. His dad was

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Speaker 2: a football player in the MAC. He's a football player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So we are up again here with

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Speaker 3: two twenty five and Shamari Simmons is there. If you're

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Speaker 3: looking at the we're in the seventh round.

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Speaker 2: Three seventh or did we dump one of them?

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Speaker 3: I think we only really have two. He was basically

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Speaker 3: the slot at Arizona. You could be slot in the

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Speaker 3: seventh played six hundred and thirty seven snaps in the slot, like.

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Speaker 2: Drafted another Beanie Basin. Yeah, you know right, No, he

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Speaker 2: might be a gunner tea. He's the guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Maury. You're part of the team. And now

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Speaker 3: we're up again here at two forty nine. Our last pick.

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Speaker 2: We did another running back.

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Speaker 3: We didn't address our defensive line. The only running yeah, well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I guess we did. The only running back still available

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Speaker 3: is Donovan Edwards from Michigan. He doesn't excite me much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, O Linman, let.

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Speaker 3: Me see you here at offensive tackle. You're looking at

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Speaker 3: Jalen Rivers out of Miami, Dalton Cooper from Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 2: Safety will play special teams and.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Rivers is six five three twenty five. You know

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Speaker 3: he pass protected a lot last year with camp with

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Speaker 3: cam Ward there, cool, Let's take him at Miami. That's

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Speaker 3: gonna do it for this mock draft. Let's see where

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Speaker 3: we ended up at here. Again, not advocating that the

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Speaker 3: Steelers trade George and it's been thrown out there, it's

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Speaker 3: been it's been talked about. We get the A plus

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Speaker 3: for Benjamin Morrison, because why wouldn't we.

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Speaker 2: They'll team him with Porter all day long.

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Speaker 3: The funny thing is here is they banged us for

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Speaker 3: drafting Caleb Johnson.

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Speaker 2: So you should think they're on running back.

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Speaker 3: Said you should have drafted Jayden Higgins. Well we did

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Speaker 3: draft Jayden Higgins for the next pick, so there you go.

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Speaker 3: How about that.

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Speaker 2: They also commend everyone for quarterbacks and they kill you

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Speaker 3: But uh got Will Howard in round three at pick

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Speaker 3: eighty five at one we took Ricky White.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Then we took it one twenty two, CJ. West, the

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Speaker 3: defensive tackle out of Indiana, Mitchell Evans, the tight end

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Speaker 3: out of Notre Dame at pick one sixty three, Shamari

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Speaker 3: Simmons out of Arizona State, it picked two twenty five,

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Speaker 3: and Jalen Rivers, the offensive tackle out of Miami with

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Speaker 3: our last pick. And overall, I said, this finished in

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Speaker 3: the bottom thirty five percent of drafts Steelers drafts, But

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Speaker 3: I don't care about that because we filled needs we made.

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Speaker 2: Now we got starting corner basically, a starting running back. Well,

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Speaker 2: there'll be no basically about I mean Warrens, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean he's going to be in the mix. Yeah, they'll

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Speaker 2: be in the mix.

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Speaker 3: We got a we got a developmental quarterback that we'll

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Speaker 3: see how that goes. We got two wide receivers there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if our receiver room is better or

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Speaker 2: worse than it used to be. Yeah, you know it's different.

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Speaker 2: Probably a third tight end, developmental D lineman, developmental O lineman,

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Speaker 2: an extra slot too. Yeah. Okay, good exercise, Good exercise again.

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Speaker 3: If you trade George Pickens, you can't just do you

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Speaker 3: have to replace him? And I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: This draft, the receiver draft's not great. You're not going

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Speaker 2: you know, like if you traded for mid second last

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Speaker 3: This one isn't as deep. You're not gonna get a

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Speaker 3: I just don't know that they're going to be impact

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Speaker 2: Win right now? Guys?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So that's what you're looking at. But anyways,

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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 3: We are back. I am Dale Lelly. He is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and Matt nick Shook on NFL dot Com

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Speaker 3: who does their Quarterback index stuff the season, put together

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Speaker 3: QB Index for six free agent quarterbacks. That teams can't

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Speaker 3: let hit the open market this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how can you not let it's not that good

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Speaker 2: of a free agent class.

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Speaker 3: Well, exactly right, it's not that good of a free

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Speaker 3: agent class. And I think that's part of the whole

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Speaker 3: process here. These teams can't allow these quarterbacks who are

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Speaker 3: currently on their roster but are upcoming free agents. They

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Speaker 3: should resign them.

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Speaker 2: All. Okay, well, I'll think I'll be open to this.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. Okay.

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Speaker 3: The number one guy on his list Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Okay. He's not saying Wilson's a better free agent than

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Speaker 2: Darnold necessarily, he's saying he's the most indisposable to his team.

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Speaker 2: I can understand that way of thinking. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: no JJ mccarth this year, there's nobody else in the

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Speaker 2: building option number two unless you're going to resign justin fields, right,

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Speaker 2: right right and move on with that.

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Speaker 3: And so here's what he has to say. It sounds

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Speaker 3: as if the first year of wilson Steelers partnership, while

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Speaker 3: ending in disappointment, at least convinced Wilson he wants to

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Speaker 3: return to Pittsburgh. He's thirty six years old. So bringing

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Speaker 3: him back isn't quite the long term quarterbacking solution Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: has sought since the end of the Ben Roethlisberger era,

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Speaker 3: but it's the best option the Steelers have with the moment.

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Speaker 3: They'll need to work out the financial side of it,

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Speaker 3: which shouldn't be nearly as difficult as it might have

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Speaker 3: been with Wilson a few years ago. It's also not

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Speaker 3: going to move the needle a ton in Pittsburg, where

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Speaker 3: fans are openly tired of watching their team reach the

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Speaker 3: playoffs and promptly bow out. The future hasn't arrived in

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh just yet, though. After Mike Tomlin rode with Wilson

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Speaker 3: through the end of the season even while the Steelers'

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Speaker 3: offense gradually declined, logical minds would think he'd prefer to

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Speaker 3: stay with Wilson instead of buying into the potential of

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields again, despite the potentially higher long term ceiling

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Speaker 3: of the younger quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty well written paragraph summing up

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Speaker 2: the situation.

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Speaker 3: It's the conundrum that we've talked about at nauseum since

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Speaker 3: the season ended, that the guy who potentially gives you

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Speaker 3: the better chance to win next year is probably Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Probably. Yeah. And again I'm not saying Wilson's my vote

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Speaker 2: or you know, they're crazy if they don't resign him

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Speaker 2: and they go the fields are out or whatever, But

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Speaker 2: I understand exactly how he wrote that up, and I

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Speaker 2: would put Wilson number one there as well.

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Speaker 3: It's why we talked yesterday when I mentioned that the

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Speaker 3: Senior Bowl is going to be so important. Absolutely because

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Speaker 3: they're going to go to the Senior Bowl and they're

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Speaker 3: going to get hands and eyes on all the quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: not named Shador Sanders and cam Ward who they don't.

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Speaker 2: Have a shot at rafting anyways in that market.

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Speaker 3: So you're going to get a look at these guys

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Speaker 3: and if there's somebody there that you say, okay, this

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Speaker 3: guy could be our long term answer. Maybe not next year.

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Speaker 2: But we're highly intriguing.

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Speaker 3: But two years from now we might be able to

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Speaker 3: get him in the building and do something with him here.

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Speaker 3: Then okay, Yeah, Russell Wilson makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 2: It does. It does, And because I think.

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Speaker 3: People are looking at the Justin Fields thing, well, yes

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Speaker 3: there is upside there, there's also downside.

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely right, And are you.

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Speaker 3: Gonna are you gonna say, hey, we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 3: go justin fields. We're gonna give you a two year,

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Speaker 3: twenty five million dollar contract. That's kind of thinking that

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Speaker 3: we're neighbor two years, thirty million dollars whatever incentively.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's not a long term answer. No, you

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Speaker 2: can get out of that and heartbeat any Right, that's

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Speaker 2: not a long term answer. Right. If he's awesome, you

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Speaker 2: might have to rip that up and give him thirty

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Speaker 2: a year, you know, right, right, which is what you want,

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Speaker 2: right exactly.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the ideal situation.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not trying to stir the pot. But about

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Speaker 2: noon today I did a mock like we did on

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus, and as we often have, I took

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Speaker 2: mill Row in the second round, which we could have done,

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Speaker 2: and this one's and I prefaced it. I said, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to operate under the assumption the Steelers have fields

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Speaker 2: and a starting receiver to be named later. Man did

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Speaker 2: Twitter go crazy? A couple of people are like that

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Speaker 2: makes sense nine out of ten. Milrose stinks? I mean,

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Speaker 2: or take Milrow in the seventh make him a wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, like dumb.

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Speaker 3: Just completely unrealistic stuff and.

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Speaker 2: Dumb stuff like Tomlin and the staff could never develop

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Speaker 2: a quarterback. Don't even bother there because they're idiots. Blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah. I'm like, okay, you guys can all

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Speaker 2: go away. And then some people are like, he's too

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Speaker 2: redundant to Fields. I'm like, that's one. I would take

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Speaker 2: two bites at the apple here. If either one hits,

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Speaker 2: it's a super investigation. Oh I want one to hit, right,

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Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't want to bring him Flacco.

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Speaker 3: But I think the idea and and I understand the

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Speaker 3: thinking here from people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Fields is still twenty five, twenty six years old.

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Speaker 2: He could be your long term answer. Maybe maybe maybe,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what you saw from him early

544
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Speaker 2: in the season said oh yeah we can next years

545
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Speaker 2: he's the quarterback. Oh you can't assume it's it's true

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Speaker 2: or right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's also the the chance that he reverts and

548
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Speaker 3: and I mean his best season in Chicago. And this

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Speaker 3: is again I'm not ripping on just he had a.

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Speaker 2: Bad situation in Chicago, real bad, really bad, maybe the

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Speaker 2: worst that you could put a young quarterback in like

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Speaker 2: Darnold with the Jets, right right, his best.

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Speaker 3: Season, he averaged one hundred and ninety five passing yards.

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Speaker 2: That's his best yeah, yeah, right now, that's his ceiling

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Speaker 2: or that's his current ceiling.

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Speaker 3: And all we have heard from Steeler fans and I

557
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Speaker 3: can go back. You need to be able to throw

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Speaker 3: the ball more to compete in today's NFL. What has

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Speaker 3: changed about that? I don't, I don't know. I'm again

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Speaker 3: if they do one or the other, I get it.

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Speaker 3: Either way, I do do right, because I understand you

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Speaker 3: know this this.

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Speaker 2: Next week and a half, those would be pretty.

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Speaker 3: Important, pretty important, Yeah, pretty important. And I think you know.

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Speaker 2: This nice of senile falls now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, before you have to make this a search invest in, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it has to.

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Speaker 2: Be more than one down there that you love. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, if there is one you love, you can

570
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Speaker 2: take him him at twenty one.

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Speaker 3: You might take him at twenty one you love him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple you're like, I'd love to get

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Speaker 2: him in the building. And yeah, and I know that

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Speaker 2: the other thing that happens, you know who's talking to

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Speaker 2: who Oh yeah, he's got her way more doubt in them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they know all this guy really loved this guy,

577
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Speaker 3: likes that. This team likes that guy. That team likes

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Speaker 3: that guy. Oh yeah, where are they going to take him?

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Speaker 3: You start to figure some of those.

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Speaker 2: Things out the first couple of rounds. There's not a

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Speaker 2: lot of shocks, you know, Like, I can't believe the

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Speaker 2: Giants took that guy. Never saw it coming. He saw

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Speaker 2: it coming. Yeah, he visited him, He was saw him

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Speaker 2: talking on them sideline.

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Speaker 3: You met with him at the Senior Boy, you met

586
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Speaker 3: with him at the combine. Yeah, you know his agents

587
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: is also you took him out to dinner. It's right right.

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Speaker 2: There's not a lot of hiding like it used to

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Speaker 2: be in the Yeah, John Stalworth drafting era. You know. Uh.

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Speaker 3: The next guy on the list is Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 2: He's the best. But I don't know if the Vikers

592
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Speaker 2: will be come back. I don't know if any of

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Speaker 2: these names will actually return to their team.

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Speaker 3: They're not paying McCarthy a ton, No, they could afford

595
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Speaker 3: to bring Sam Darnold back.

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Speaker 2: They could even franchise.

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Speaker 3: They could franchise and listen.

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Speaker 2: To the offers. Yeah, give me a second. That would

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Speaker 2: be probably they have a second or third round pick and.

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Speaker 3: Putting the franchise tag on him, the non exclusive franchise

601
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Speaker 3: tag on him, and which allows him to go out

602
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Speaker 3: and maybe make a deal with if somebody gives you

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Speaker 3: a first and a third.

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Speaker 2: He's been locked to the link to the Raiders a bunch,

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Speaker 2: why not. I mean, if you only have the Raiders

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Speaker 2: second round pick out of them, it's better than letting

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Speaker 2: them walk out the door. Yeah, because again, the Vikings

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Speaker 2: have they don't have any picks, right, Yeah, if you

609
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Speaker 2: could turn him into some some picks, you could even

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Speaker 2: take him into camp. Yeah, they don't have a lot

611
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Speaker 2: of cap space, but you could also take him into camp,

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Speaker 2: you know, yeah, because you're not paying McCarthy a ton, right, right, right,

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Speaker 2: So that would make some sense. You'd hate to see

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Speaker 2: him walk, right because.

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Speaker 3: Then you know you're going to get a third round

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Speaker 3: com pick next year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if this is the Vikings Audio Network, you're

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Speaker 2: not thrilled with, well, oh well, last we saw of them,

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Speaker 2: he's gone. Yeah that's somebody you want.

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Speaker 3: No. Now, the other guys on this list are all

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Speaker 3: true backups.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: The first one here is Marcus Mariota, and.

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Speaker 2: I guess he's a fine backup for Daniels stylistically, he's

625
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Speaker 2: a good dude. He's better around the block. He got

626
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Speaker 2: in a little bit. I don't know. Last we saw

627
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Speaker 2: him as a starter in Atlanta was hideous, But I

628
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Speaker 2: get it. I mean, he he's a good influence on

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Speaker 2: the young kid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as a former you know, second overall pick he

631
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Speaker 3: kind of understands what Daniels is going through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, kind of.

633
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Speaker 3: Some of those kind of things. So I get that

634
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Speaker 3: if he's great in the room, he's going to be cheap.

635
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Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you want to come back?

636
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, And again he's not working with a great list

638
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Speaker 2: here to build this article.

639
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: Tyler Huntley with Miami need to do that because he

640
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 3: was okay when he.

641
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: Played right, way better than.

642
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Speaker 3: That. And yeah, I mean, and they have to Thoms. Yeah,

643
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 3: they have to have somebody in place in case something

644
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: happens to again that they've shown that they can win

645
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: some games with Tyler Huntley and it doesn't fall apart.

646
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Speaker 2: He's maybe a top fifty quarterback on the planet right now.

647
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: They can't go in with the seventieth best quarterback as

648
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Speaker 2: to his backup.

649
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: Right, No, they cannot do that.

650
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: Again, that's a problem.

651
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: Jacobe Brissett in New England.

652
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Speaker 2: Another great influence on the young kid. Yeah great, yeah,

653
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: that's he is weight in gold, even if he never

654
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Speaker 2: touched the field.

655
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Speaker 3: There is a guy I love him. There's a guy

656
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: who posts regularly on our YouTube page who thinks the

657
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Speaker 3: Steelers are they need to trade for Joe Milton.

658
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: A lot of people are on the Milton train.

659
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: He played half of a game in a meaningless.

660
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: If I were the Patriots and I could get anything

661
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: out of them, great, I'm much suggested he should come

662
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 2: to Steeler. I mean he's played a really good preseason.

663
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: He is big, strong and fast. I wouldn't give you

664
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: much for him.

665
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: I watched him at the Senior Bowl last year, and yeah,

666
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: when he was bad, when he misses, he misses, Oh yeah.

667
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: It comes out hot. I mean he's got.

668
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: Everything comes out hot. He couldn't he couldn't throw check downs.

669
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: The checkdowns were one hundred miles an hour, screaming at

670
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: the at the running back coming out of the backfield,

671
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 3: like knocking him over. Yeah, oh yeah, but he can

672
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: throw the ball one hundred miles or a hundred yards.

673
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And everyone's allowed to get better. Man. The

674
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: NFL is better than it was the Senior Bowl. That's promising. Yeah,

675
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: I mean he's not gonna be the start of there.

676
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: But I don't know that you do that now annointing

677
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: him as your you know, top backup. No, yeah, I

678
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 2: mean he could be. I'd like him. I'd love him

679
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: to be a camp and see what he looks like.

680
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: But I can't give you a lot. I can tell

681
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: you what he looks like. He's big, and he's big,

682
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: and he's really Runney throws the thing of the out.

683
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

684
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

685
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: The final guy on this list is Jameis Winston in Cleveland.

686
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: Oh. I don't think he comes back.

687
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: I don't think he goes back there.

688
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 2: Although I think they love him and the players love them.

689
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: They benched him at the end of the year, and

690
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: that was more than just saying, hey, let's see what

691
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: Dorian we got with Dorian Thompson Robinson.

692
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: They were tanking too, Yeah, I mean they wanted to end.

693
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: Up with it, and maybe that's involved in maybe they say,

694
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: you know what Jamis, We've taken a look around at

695
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: what's there, and you know, if you sign Kirk Cousins.

696
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: Mean, what's their quarterback, I'm going to look like.

697
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: Bringing Jameis Winston back. Isn't the worst idea because you know,

698
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: j Kirk Cousins may not last a season, oh right, Because.

699
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: I mean if Watson never plays another snap and he's

700
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: on the pay run, he's not and I think that's

701
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: how we'll go and they'll call it injury or whatever.

702
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: But he's not going to play Cousins of Winston. It's

703
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: probably the best you could hope for. Probably it's probably

704
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: only like a ten million dollar room because Cousins gets

705
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: the Wilson's.

706
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: Going to have a cheap contract. Yeah, it's not the

707
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: worst of.

708
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: The worst thing in the world. Right, maybe you draft

709
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: one in addition to or that's next year's project. I mean,

710
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be He could be a Brown The

711
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: more I talk through it, they love him, you know,

712
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: he might understand the situation out they're.

713
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: Eating w's doing.

714
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: Really do like him, and I thought he's gotten better, but.

715
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: He's also still prone to do stuff that's bad, not

716
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: off the field, but on the field.

717
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: Nor right bad stuff. As a competitor in the division,

718
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: I'd love that to be their quarterback room. Yeah, I

719
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: mean he can still beat you. We saw that good. Yeah, Yeah,

720
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: but that's a lot better than Lamar Burrow being the

721
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: quarterback room.

722
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, better than Deshaun Watson. They're still going to have

723
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: no matter what happens, they're still gonna have about an

724
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: eighty million dollar quarterback.

725
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: And probably not a good quarterback and really unlikely to

726
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: have a good quarterback.

727
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: The worst contract in NFL history might be the worst

728
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,959
Speaker 3: contract in pro sports. It's it's right up there.

729
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: Some of the factor and what they gave up for him,

730
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: a lot of first.

731
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Speaker 3: Round pick, a lot of first round packy hamstrung your

732
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: your franchise for years.

733
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you knew that he had issues when he

734
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: did it. They didn't happen after the fact, they did not.

735
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: That's a little more excusable. Yeah, bad news, bad bad,

736
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: bad stuff. And well they what they paid for. Yeah,

737
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's crying for me.

738
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: Nobody is feeling No.

739
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody in the league is.

740
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: Anybody in the league is right. I don't think happened.

741
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: It was right before the owner's meetings. The owner they

742
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 3: weren't happy with that at all.

743
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: No, it's a bad look for the least.

744
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 3: That's the guy that you gave fully guaranteed money to.

745
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: Like the first guy ever in history you fully guaranteed

746
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 2: money and you give all those picks for him, you know. Yeah.

747
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: Anyways, that was Nick Shook and his UH six free

748
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: agent mark quarterbacks. Teams can't let hit the open market

749
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: this offseason.

750
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: Guys like Brissett make the tone sense. Yeah, be the mentor,

751
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: including Russell Wilson. I get it.

752
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand both sides of it.

753
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: I really do.

754
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: But anyways, let's get to another break. He is the

755
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive

756
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back to finish

757
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: up the show right after this.

758
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: At least.

759
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

760
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: your twenty four I'm a Home of the Black and

761
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

762
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and Matt we now know when the

764
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six NFL Draft will take place here in Pittsburgh.

765
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: Here in Pittsburgh is the key.

766
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 3: It will be April twenty third through the twenty fifth.

767
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 2: Okay, it's always the end of April, and it's not unusual.

768
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: It's gonna be pretty cool. It's gonna be really cool. Yeah,

769
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a lot of shows. Oh, I'm sure

770
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: we'll be all over the place.

771
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pittsburgh is going to I mean, there'll be five

772
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: hundred thousand people here just for that, just for the

773
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: just for the event, if not more so.

774
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean, folks, if you're playing on Attendant, I would

775
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: start making plans now.

776
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

777
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: Who you know that lives downtown or you know where

778
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: you can shack up or all that good stuff, come

779
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: see us, you know. Yeah, that's cool, absolutely cool. Yeah

780
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: this year right, yeah, okay, Which I don't know how

781
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: they do that? Can they handle five that's.

782
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: Like five times as many people were actually in the

783
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: city of Green Bay.

784
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 2: Yeah right, right, that's like ninety eighths from now or something. Right.

785
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 3: I can't imagine there's a hotel room within one hundred

786
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: miles of Green Bay, Wisconsin.

787
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: Not for hapa million people to show the old right.

788
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: Gotta be rough.

789
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, so that'll be a lot of fun.

790
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: He tuned on that, we'll look forward to that one

791
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: for sure. Cool. Uh.

792
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: Looking here at some of the news and notes, particularly

793
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 3: from the conference championship stuff, they're on pain and Bobby

794
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: Wagner still not practicing. Oh, I didn't hear the Washington commanders.

795
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: Okay, we know Cosme's out. Yeah, it's a big deal.

796
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: That's Jalen Carter neighborhood. Payne's a high quality player. Wagner's

797
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: definitely lost a step, but he's the green dot guy.

798
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: He's been around the block, he has playoff experience. I mean,

799
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 2: I don't love their chances. I don't love their chances

800
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: to stop the run, especially not without those two guys

801
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: right either missing those guys with the compromised could go off.

802
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 3: Dion Dawkins return to practice for the Buffalo Bills, but

803
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: Taylor Rapp is still out.

804
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: I don't know the rap will play.

805
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't look good.

806
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a deal breaker, but no, yeah, yeah.

807
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 3: Looking at some of the other stuff that's happening around

808
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: the league, it looks.

809
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: Like a lot of Cam Jurgens is gonna play though,

810
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: yeah he was. There was some concern about him too.

811
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: Just going you know, with the back of the Pain conversation.

812
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: The Lions are going to interview decimated Buccaneers linebackers coach

813
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: Larry Foot. Oh, nice to be their defensive coordinator.

814
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of former Steelers that are moving getting

815
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: some com run there, so Randa, well, do Staley are

816
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: there too. There's a lot of these guys that are

817
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: moving up the coaching ranks pretty quick. They're former Steelers. Yeah,

818
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: so that would be interesting to see if Larry Foot.

819
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: He's a good guy.

820
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: So you've been around him a lot. Yeah, I mean

821
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: he's smart and conchy. I mean, he doesn't shock you

822
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: that he's a good coach.

823
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: No, not at all. Well, he went to Michigan, so

824
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: he would be kind of going home. Oh yeah, okay

825
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: to be the defensive coordinator of the lines a lot different.

826
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: And they do like former players.

827
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: They do like them for player definitely, Ye see if

828
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: that works out for him. Tony Basselli, according to a report,

829
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Speaker 3: has joined the Jaguars head coaching search process and they're

830
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: going to hire So the news came out today they're

831
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: going to hire the head coach before they hire their

832
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: next GM. Yeah, and which is a weird dynamic.

833
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: Then, well, I think the GM was prohibiting them to

834
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: get the guys they really wanted, you know, I think

835
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: they misjudged that conversation. And I've been There's been some

836
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: speculation that Cohen, who turned him down, might now be

837
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: interested because the GM's out of the way. Brady with

838
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: the Bills U s Law, who goes back Niner ties

839
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 2: with the former GM, would be happier if he's out

840
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: of the way. So I bet something happens pretty soon there. Yeah,

841
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: you know, I think Monkin has been involved there too.

842
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: I think they want to go offensive. Yeah, you know.

843
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: As for BASSELLI my best bud lives in Jacksonville. He's

844
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: like a Jacksonville legend. It is very tied into the

845
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: team and super smart. And that sounds weird, but that's

846
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: not crazy. Yeah, he knows people.

847
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 3: I mean he's still he calls their games. Yeah, yeah,

848
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: be like saying, hey, hey Wolf.

849
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: Why is that funny? But I might put Max in charge.

850
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: Max knows everybody.

851
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 2: He knows everybody in the play everybody. Like we've talked

852
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: about walking around the combine with him is might as

853
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: well take an anchor from the biggest bars you could

854
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 2: find and walk through the convention center. Can't go anywhere.

855
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, walking through the Indianapolis Convention Center with Max Starks

856
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 3: is like walking through there with Taylor Swift exactly, except

857
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: you would draw less attention maybe if you had Taylor

858
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 3: Swift with you because she's.

859
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: Bound or whatever. He's probably under that, But I mean

860
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't exactly blend in. There's not blend at all. No,

861
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: he can't just put a hat on and keep his

862
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: head down. But it's fun. He knows everybody enjoy Yah. Yeah,

863
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: Max does know everybody. Uh.

864
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 3: There's a report out of Dallas that Jerry Jones has

865
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: spoken informally to Pete Carroll about the Cowboys head coaching position.

866
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: Keep hearing that he's really in the mix. Maybe the

867
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: Raiders too. It's it goes back to it goes back

868
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: to our Russell Wilson versus Justin Field's conversation, because if

869
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: you're hiring Pete Carroll, you're not looking five years down

870
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: the road. No, no, right, right. I mean I think

871
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: they thought McCarthy was going to come back. I think

872
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: that's what they believe. Yeah, and now they're like, we

873
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: just took a left hook to the chin. Who can

874
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: we get to keep the ship? All right?

875
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: Who's the best guy to like? Okay, let he gives

876
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: us the chance to compete and maybe win. We don't

877
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: want to. We don't want to go with somebody maybe

878
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: that's you, and take a chance that maybe he fails.

879
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Schottenheimer getting the bump is what's been talked

880
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 2: about the Yeah, which would also possibly do that. Let's

881
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: not disrupt things too much.

882
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, but Carol's I mean, you know

883
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: what Pete Carroll is as a head coach.

884
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 2: You know he's gonna be a good culture guy and

885
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: the players are gonna like him. Yeah, who is coordinators?

886
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: As of now? I guess Schottenheimer and Zimmer are still employed. Yeah,

887
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: maybe just keep them. It seems like Jerry wants to

888
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 2: keep those guys.

889
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I guess Mark Andrews has come out and

890
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: said that he's gutted by what happened last Sunday, but

891
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: he won't let it define him.

892
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 2: So I thought about bringing this up the other day,

893
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: and I'm old year old. My son's on Instagram and

894
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: like everyone else in the world, who's eighteen and these

895
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: guys that are younger. He showed me a lot of

896
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: the stuff that Baltimore fans are talking about with Andrews.

897
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: It's unbelievably terrible. Yeah, I mean it's unbelievably terrible.

898
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: If you're thinking about and I've seen this happen before.

899
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: I've talked with different players about this. If you're thinking

900
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: about texting or I should say not texting but Instagram,

901
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: or we're going out of social media or whatever it

902
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: may be, whatever social outlet that that is, and telling

903
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: a player who had something bad happened in a game

904
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 3: that and you're thinking about going at them saying that

905
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: they need to die or they should kill themselves, You're

906
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: the problem in sports. As I mean, you think these guys,

907
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: he's a super popular player.

908
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: Before that, I mean.

909
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 3: I actually guy, I actually used him for one of

910
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 3: the guys that I coach in baseball who is really

911
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: hard on himself if something and he's a he's a

912
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 3: really good player, and every if he has an error

913
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: or he strikes out or do you know, grounds out

914
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: the shorts, he takes it super hard. And I and

915
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 3: I so after that all happened, I texted him and

916
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: I said, Mark Andrews is one of the best tight

917
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: ends in the NFL. Yeah, he's being paid very well

918
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: to be one of the best tight ends in the NFL,

919
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: and he just made a mistake in the on the

920
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: one of the biggest stages that you can make a

921
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 3: mistake in two of them.

922
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah right, I mean he hurt the team.

923
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: He hurt the team.

924
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and but so it happens. It happens to everybody.

925
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: Imagine if if if at your job, you screwed up

926
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: something at your job, which we all do, it happens, yeah, daily,

927
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: it happens here and somebody was coming at you and say, oh,

928
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: you're you're an idiot. You need to you know, kill yourself.

929
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: And burn your family down. You need to.

930
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: If you're doing that to a to a player over

931
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: something that happens on sports, you really need to assess

932
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: your life choices.

933
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, in a big way. I mean and just

934
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: Andrews in particular, he's an all time great raven absolutely

935
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: touchdown score. Yeah, and he's been a great player. He

936
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: may end up in the Hall of Fame. This is inconsequential.

937
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: He's one.

938
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: He's won way more games from them for them than

939
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: he's lost.

940
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: Yes, and you know, little it's not a little thing.

941
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean every time he comes off the field, he

942
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: checks his glucose so he can help the team even more,

943
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 2: you know, like he has something.

944
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 3: Because he has diabetes. I mean is oh, by the way,

945
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 3: how about if Lamar Jackson throws a little bit better

946
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: ball and he's not twisting around behind him and falling

947
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: to it, you know, to the ground, does he catch that?

948
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: Maybe they do score there?

949
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like again, watch hard Knocks. I mean

950
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: there's little kids in the stands going type one diet.

951
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: I mean, like, we're all in the same team together.

952
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 2: He's a hero to these kids because he's able to

953
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: show them he saved he saved.

954
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: A woman in a car accident before the season started.

955
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: Right, right, And he got in the car accident and

956
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: didn't start a season as well because he got in

957
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: a car accident, right, you.

958
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: Need to seriously reassess your life at that.

959
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: Some of the main hashtag that's going around that I'm

960
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: not going to say that my son showed me. I'm like,

961
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: are you insane? What is going on here?

962
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, anyway, it's a game.

963
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: It's a game. Come out.

964
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: Sobody on the on the message board today, why are

965
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: you not outraged by what's going on with the Steelers. Well,

966
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 3: I'm like, we don't get paid for outrage, We're not.

967
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: We're not here to We get paid to analyze. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

968
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 3: and analysis if you take a step back and look

969
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 3: at it is. It doesn't involve outrage, doesn't involve knee

970
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: jerk reactions, right.

971
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: I hope they win. I'm been a Steeler fan before

972
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: I was ever employed with them in any way, shape

973
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: or form. But it's not the same thing as if

974
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: out families being attacked by you know, a burglar or

975
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: something you know or whatever you know. For some of

976
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: the stuff talking about Andrews, like, come on, man.

977
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: I look at things analytically. That's what I do. That's

978
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: what you do, right, right, and you know that's you know,

979
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: if you want outrage, there's plenty of other outlets that

980
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: you can go. Listen how you want, yell and scream,

981
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: and that's what they love it.

982
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: But if you're going to attack the Mark Andrews of

983
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: the world or Tomlin, I mean, and you're out of

984
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: your mind.

985
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 3: Out of your mind, I need to really seriously assess

986
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: your choices in life, yea, because in this day and age,

987
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: that's don't you put that stuff out there. It's there

988
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: and you can't take it back, and all somebody has

989
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: to do is screenshot it and oh, by the way,

990
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: then send it to your boss.

991
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: By right, or your future employer, your future employers.

992
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: That stuff's out there. I can tell you somebody who

993
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 3: has been somebody that hires people in business, and I've

994
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: been on that part of it where I've done that.

995
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: One of the first things I do when somebody sends

996
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 3: me a resume is I go start looking back through

997
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: their their social media stuff. What's there?

998
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

999
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell that to the guys that I coach

1000
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: now when they're looking, you know, colleges are going to

1001
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: look back through what you did, and so that's all

1002
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: part of it. But anyways, we got to get going here.

1003
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 3: We're well overdue.

1004
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Hard.

1005
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: I just went on a little bit of a rant.

1006
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: There bugging me for all week about Andrews when he

1007
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: showed me that. I'm like, really, yeah, popular player. Before you,

1008
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on

1009
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: site running the soundboard and the Justin Miller hotline, and

1010
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: for Tyler Wittmeyer making sure our video gets out there

1011
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: onto YouTube.

1012
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lolli. We thank you for listening to this

1013
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Speaker 3: edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.