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Speaker 1: a special guests up in the building by the name
Speaker 1: of Sammy. Sammy, don't pull it up to a big bass.
Speaker 1: What's up? Man? Man? Thanks for having me. How y'all, man,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you pulling up. We appreciate you pull it up.
Speaker 1: You've been, you've been, You've been, You've been in this game.
Speaker 1: You've been doing this ship for a long time. Give
Speaker 1: us clarity on how long professionally known that Shammy. I'm
Speaker 1: thirty five now. Got my first deal when I was twelve.
Speaker 1: I like it came out when I was twelve. Yeah, yeah, Man,
Speaker 1: does it feel like it like? Does it feel like
Speaker 1: it's been because I came in the game when it
Speaker 1: was that tape CDs walkman zoons uh, cassette tapes. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I got a plaque with a
Speaker 1: cassette tape on my wall. So to be in the
Speaker 1: streaming world, you know, I'm saying, like, I've seen the
Speaker 1: evolution of music. I've seen how I got it went
Speaker 1: from uh, the importance of radio and being visible on
Speaker 1: television to now owning the internet, you know. So I've
Speaker 1: been able to just see the changes. So it does
Speaker 1: feel like two decades in what's your thing? The kids
Speaker 1: like to having people still care, still care about Samy.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm blessed. I'm blessed. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of child stars they don't get the cross over into
Speaker 1: being even taken seriously as a teenage heart throb as
Speaker 1: they called this, let alone a grown man, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So for my transition to be as
Speaker 1: seamless as it's been, uh, it's truly a blessing. And
Speaker 1: I think that I never knew the significance that I
Speaker 1: had to my error until last year being on a
Speaker 1: millennium tour. You know, I don't even know I wanted
Speaker 1: my flowers. A care about my flowers, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But when you got fifteen twenty people screaming
Speaker 1: your name and singing your records, that reminds them of
Speaker 1: a time when they were like in seventh eighth grade
Speaker 1: or in high school or college. Um, that's the most refreshing,
Speaker 1: humble feeling that I've had in a long time. So
Speaker 1: I'm super super grateful to still be doing it and
Speaker 1: i still love it. That's the cool part. I'm not
Speaker 1: tired of it, you know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 1: feel like, although I'm twenty three years in, I'm just
Speaker 1: getting started at the same time. First original like yours
Speaker 1: were not original, but her first official look from doing
Speaker 1: a Stevie Wonder rendition of my Sherry and more time
Speaker 1: at the Apolo. How was that for you? And I
Speaker 1: was nervous. So I was raised in Miami for six
Speaker 1: years and I was in this group yeah erubbed the
Speaker 1: log and and all that. Yeah, I was. I was
Speaker 1: scared because prior to that, we auditioned as a group.
Speaker 1: I was in the group with this guy named Terrell,
Speaker 1: Terrell and Philip and uh. When we sent the audition
Speaker 1: tape in, they called back and they was like, we
Speaker 1: want the youngest one. That was me. I was tend
Speaker 1: at the time. So it was my first time I
Speaker 1: ever performing. Yeah by myself was the first time I
Speaker 1: stepped on a big stage like that. And Steve Harvey
Speaker 1: was the host at the time, and I went out there.
Speaker 1: My mom said, if I could conquer New York, though,
Speaker 1: I could take over the world. And when she said that,
Speaker 1: it kind of stuck with me. When I went out
Speaker 1: there and did my thing standing ovation. Then that led
Speaker 1: to Dallas Austin and Joyce Rby This cover me and
Speaker 1: kind of you know, building my career from there. Did
Speaker 1: you immediately signed So Rowdy after that or was there
Speaker 1: like a period of time before you actually signed So Rowdy? Nah?
Speaker 1: So I was actually signed to Capitol Records in Free
Speaker 1: World Entertainment, which is still Dallas Austin's umbrella the first time,
Speaker 1: and uh we dropped. I like it Crazy things I
Speaker 1: do for love Hardball from the bottom to the top
Speaker 1: of my first LP Hardball was from the movie Yeah
Speaker 1: with with Bow Wow Lou Wayne Losane, Germaine dupri And
Speaker 1: then um, success came so fast man. One thing about me,
Speaker 1: I always had an old soul, right, So I felt
Speaker 1: myself at twelve thirteen fourteen losing myself already, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And um, I don't care how much
Speaker 1: money you have, how much fame you have, you can't
Speaker 1: get time back. So I wanted to have a sense
Speaker 1: of normalcy. And I stepped away from music for four
Speaker 1: years ago to high school? And now did that? How
Speaker 1: did that work out when you were actually going to
Speaker 1: high school? Was it kind of like a surreal experience
Speaker 1: being a celebrity? And then how was it re entering
Speaker 1: the music world afterwards? It was high school? Was it
Speaker 1: was a bitter sweet right because kids couldn't understand why
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in GM and you clash with them and
Speaker 1: they can go home and watch me on one or
Speaker 1: six some part and and when you're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
Speaker 1: they think he's supposed to be flying in helicopter to
Speaker 1: school and all that. And I was getting dropped off
Speaker 1: by my mom's She did like it was it was?
Speaker 1: It was it was a regular I was just trying
Speaker 1: to be a regular guy going to school to get
Speaker 1: my education. But um, I used to have security help
Speaker 1: me get the class. Niggas ain't like me because the
Speaker 1: girls like me. So it was always on like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I don't like niggas to
Speaker 1: this day because I got way more female. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they never they never gave me a chance though.
Speaker 1: It's not like I was, you know, big headed or nothing.
Speaker 1: It's just I was saying me so personal. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: public school yeah, public school. Yeah. So you know, it
Speaker 1: didn't get it didn't getting nice for me until like
Speaker 1: my junior year. Finally, the guys that used to try
Speaker 1: to talk crazy my freshman year was like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: not so bad because I wasn't tripping, like I really
Speaker 1: just wanted to learn, you know, get my education and
Speaker 1: experience yeah, and just yeah yeah, and just not not
Speaker 1: lose my childhood. You know a lot of childhood stars
Speaker 1: that never got the experience that I have. When they're
Speaker 1: not as hot as they used to be, they don't
Speaker 1: know the significance of self outside of music and fame.
Speaker 1: See me, I could lose it all because I already
Speaker 1: lost it all party had it taken all the way.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm saying that I earned my strife
Speaker 1: and got it back tinfol So it's nothing you could
Speaker 1: tell me like, I'm self made, him God made. And
Speaker 1: even if today the world stopped streaming Sammy's music, I'm
Speaker 1: still gotly, I'm still handsome, I'm still fly, I'm still yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna find something else to pivot into and
Speaker 1: be successful. You know what, I'm saying, like God just
Speaker 1: really made me different. So um, it was beautiful though
Speaker 1: it was homecoming king. I played basketball two years. I
Speaker 1: got to do some of the normal stuff. It was
Speaker 1: more so just understanding that when you have fame, people
Speaker 1: put this stigma on you off the dribble where they
Speaker 1: don't give you a chance to really show your character
Speaker 1: and true essence of self, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you know they're pretty good off the dribble. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: particularly the male species for sure. I mean, but I
Speaker 1: get it. But you know, I tell people to this day, man,
Speaker 1: I either intimidate or inspire with men. It's two things
Speaker 1: we fight about, right, Not not me, but if you sucker,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you're a sucker man
Speaker 1: like you fight over a woman or you jealous because
Speaker 1: the dude got some money. So I always did well
Speaker 1: for myself. Those are manly two things, guys. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that's that's childish. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's not keen like. So for me, Um,
Speaker 1: I stay in my lane. I got my my circle
Speaker 1: from high school. Like the only guys I really rocket with,
Speaker 1: just the guys that went to school with because they
Speaker 1: were solid when I wasn't on TV at that time.
Speaker 1: So we're twenty years in on friendship and brotherhood. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just effort. We're in the group chat,
Speaker 1: some of them married, some of them got kids. But
Speaker 1: when I fly back to Orlando, you know, we fellowship
Speaker 1: or we'll take a guy the Vegas and have a
Speaker 1: good time. Yeah. Yeah, it's all about putting the effort in.
Speaker 1: You know, the greatest thing you can give to somebody
Speaker 1: is time. So if it's significant to you, important to
Speaker 1: you'll make the time. What you're thinking, the difference in
Speaker 1: contract back then when you first signed and now you know,
Speaker 1: my mind is BEAUTIFU. You know how everybody's trying to
Speaker 1: be independent now, you know what I'm saying because of
Speaker 1: the Internet and the uh freedom as an artist that
Speaker 1: we have if you want to really take control of
Speaker 1: your career. I've been independent since two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1: I signed myself to start camp Music, which is my
Speaker 1: entity the Camp. I signed my show to myself by choice.
Speaker 1: I had to learn quickly how to write my song,
Speaker 1: shop the bottom and sequence my music, and invested my
Speaker 1: artwork right. Uh. And that was because my ex manager
Speaker 1: at the time took everything away from me, so I
Speaker 1: had to start over. I ain't have no deal. Ah
Speaker 1: easy when we talk about uh manipulation and um just
Speaker 1: being young. I moved here when I was eighteen, right,
Speaker 1: and I got a little deal for fifty here, and
Speaker 1: I got another deal for like another fifty thousand, so
Speaker 1: I got a hundred thousand dollars. That's a lot of
Speaker 1: money at the time for eighteen year old kid fresh
Speaker 1: out of high school. Is a guy knew like. He
Speaker 1: was like a brother to me. So when you say brother,
Speaker 1: when you say family, the last person I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna snake me is my brother. So really it was Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't no paperwork, by the way, It was just
Speaker 1: he helped me get my bands. He was a co
Speaker 1: sign on my my whip right, he was the primary
Speaker 1: account holding on my American Express. He helped me open
Speaker 1: up my accounts that wells Fargo. I didn't look at
Speaker 1: that as red flags at eighteen, but then when I
Speaker 1: started like asking him questions about the business and he
Speaker 1: wasn't really keeping it solid, I started thinking about the
Speaker 1: access he had to my personal life. So when I
Speaker 1: fired him, of course the first thing he could do
Speaker 1: is falsely make a police report on my whip and
Speaker 1: say I stole it because his name's on it too.
Speaker 1: He could turn off my primary, turn off my American
Speaker 1: Express card his name. He's the primary, liquidate my accounts.
Speaker 1: His name's on it. I went through that from the
Speaker 1: month of March to May of two thousand nine. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kiss me through the phone at the time, so
Speaker 1: I'll be doing like Jay Leno, Jimmy Kimmel alive and
Speaker 1: all that ship, eating Roman noodles at the crib, trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to survive Carlos for three years,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people didn't know at the time,
Speaker 1: because I would struggle, Well, you feel me, I'll never
Speaker 1: let you see me sweat. But I was really depressed, uh,
Speaker 1: suffering from insomnia, drowning in liquor and women to kind
Speaker 1: of hope. You know what I'm saying with that uh,
Speaker 1: And that ship took like seven years to get out of.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, like when I say out
Speaker 1: of it, go viral on Shave Run for the first
Speaker 1: time in sixteen, and that led to a deal, to
Speaker 1: another deal, to another deal too. I've been on five
Speaker 1: worldwide tours in the last six years, like everything different now,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm back back, but
Speaker 1: but but I mean, but only my masters. I never
Speaker 1: did a pub deal. Every check, every advance comes straight
Speaker 1: to me, and then I pay the team. My lawyer
Speaker 1: don't see ship until I pay her. My account and
Speaker 1: don't see ship until I pay her. My manager don't
Speaker 1: see ship until I pay him. Everything come to me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When when you are artists,
Speaker 1: you don't really want to do all that right, you
Speaker 1: just want to bask in your creativity. But doing that
Speaker 1: and trusting somebody got me when you've been burned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's like, no, I'm the boss and I'm the leader.
Speaker 1: So I had to to learn the business. I had
Speaker 1: to be this way. Are you kind of glad you
Speaker 1: went through everything? You went? Beautiful? I wouldn't change it.
Speaker 1: Seven years sound like a long time. That's two thousand,
Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty five days by the way of suffering.
Speaker 1: But ship like easy now you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I'm having fun again and I'm not doing anything
Speaker 1: but being myself, Like that's it, and I can't no
Speaker 1: label stop me. I ain't freedom. I'm free and that's
Speaker 1: when you're rich riches, not currency riches and spirit riches
Speaker 1: and spirit riches and freedom, liberation and doing what you
Speaker 1: love to do. You know what I'm saying today, after this,
Speaker 1: I get to do whatever I want to do today.
Speaker 1: If I want to just fly somewhere, I could skate,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like my mom straight, if
Speaker 1: you need me, my daddy straight, if you need me like,
Speaker 1: that's what I do it for. It's never about me
Speaker 1: like like so, I'm in a different space now man,
Speaker 1: where I'm super grateful for all the struggles because Stu
Speaker 1: painburst beauty. You just got to look at it that
Speaker 1: way and get through it. We're not getting big. Would
Speaker 1: you say you make R and B? Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 1: What is like per your definition? What is real R
Speaker 1: and B? Man? It's uh. I was just talking to
Speaker 1: somebody about this other day. I was in Houston for
Speaker 1: Tycoon with fifty Right and as with Jazz Princeton, the
Speaker 1: studio always playing some stuff for my album at R,
Speaker 1: S V P and UM music is a feeling out
Speaker 1: of thought. I'm a church boy, like you have to
Speaker 1: really really speak to the souls of women to to
Speaker 1: be in the game this long. I know that because
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. You know what I'm saying, Um, you
Speaker 1: gotta be transparent, you gotta be vulnerable, you gotta be
Speaker 1: masculine enough to say things that we talk about each other,
Speaker 1: probably in the barbershop at the bar, but we never
Speaker 1: want to tell our girl that because we feel like
Speaker 1: we're weak. If if we expressed that, Nah, I'm I'm emotional,
Speaker 1: I'm a pisces, I'm sensitive. I'm not afraid to say
Speaker 1: those things that are deemed weak. But a woman really
Speaker 1: appreciates it. So I think as long as you're being
Speaker 1: honest and transparent, less autoh, more of your voice, that's
Speaker 1: for R and B. You know what, you know why
Speaker 1: the feeling of R and B is gone, It's not
Speaker 1: just hip hop. Is that rappers are able to sing
Speaker 1: quote unquote. That's what killed R and everybody trying to
Speaker 1: act like it's like this big, big mystery, nainitely like
Speaker 1: who don't Yeah, So you throw the auto tune and
Speaker 1: it takes the filing out of feeling, out of music.
Speaker 1: But why why the flip do you think is? And
Speaker 1: we were debating before you came in, like why do
Speaker 1: you think that R and B artists are becoming more
Speaker 1: like rappers, like they're singing about streets. That's also easy
Speaker 1: because it depends on what you want. So me, I
Speaker 1: haven't been on the radio, y'all radio record Sammy since
Speaker 1: kiss Me to the Phone. That's two thousand, twelve years ago.
Speaker 1: But I got over two hundred five million streams in
Speaker 1: the last six years since I've into the streaming world. Right, So,
Speaker 1: Sammy doesn't care about Billboard, already got a number one,
Speaker 1: already wrote one for Tank, already got a top three.
Speaker 1: Sammy don't care about platinum and being gold. The music free.
Speaker 1: You pay every month to some digital streaming platform, right,
Speaker 1: and you get everybody's catalog. Why are we talking about
Speaker 1: first week number still the music freak? If you've got
Speaker 1: ten dollars, you get everybody ship. Not just saying so,
Speaker 1: I'm not on the dumb ship. I'm not on the
Speaker 1: chasing the numbers. I've already done all that. So let
Speaker 1: me ask you this because this is another discussion that
Speaker 1: we were having before you came. Because my point of
Speaker 1: view is when you talk about niggas like the Chris
Speaker 1: Browns and the tri songs, you know, those type of
Speaker 1: niggas that really come from like the places that are
Speaker 1: really about that life. You can't really call them an
Speaker 1: R and B nigga is trying to act like a
Speaker 1: rapper because they really are about that ship and that's
Speaker 1: what they come from. So it's like they're really just
Speaker 1: about their real life. You see what I'm saying. I'm not. Yeah, did,
Speaker 1: I definitely said that, But what I'm saying is you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't Chris Brown, a Trey song singer nigger trying
Speaker 1: to act like a rap nigger when they really come from.
Speaker 1: We didn't do that. We didn't do that. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: Chris and Trey. We're saying for everybody else, every R
Speaker 1: and B nigger that ain't even known what he's saying
Speaker 1: when here on, y'all come and say not because that's
Speaker 1: what they come from. No, Chris Cain gon't see the
Speaker 1: women or slide on some street ship. We get that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I'm just saying, now
Speaker 1: you hear more R and B that's geared towards street
Speaker 1: ship than you hear the ship that he's talking. Because again,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. If you care about Billboard. If
Speaker 1: you care about being on top ten on radio, right,
Speaker 1: then you have to create the same music that Future
Speaker 1: is doing and thug and gunna like you still Now
Speaker 1: that's it's It's a mind fun though, because because because
Speaker 1: what it is is hip hop turn pop, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so hip hop popular music overrules everything. Whatever is popular
Speaker 1: is what it is. And hip hop is the number
Speaker 1: one genre in the world. So we try too. If
Speaker 1: you try, if your R and B singing, you're trying
Speaker 1: to get one slot one on seven nine and goddamn,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Now, if you if
Speaker 1: you care about that, you gotta play that game. If
Speaker 1: you don't care about it, you know, then you do
Speaker 1: what I do and just cater to those really yeah,
Speaker 1: well yeah, not just I'm gonna serve you real R
Speaker 1: and B. Because the thing about a trend is gone
Speaker 1: when the trend is gone, right, But real music is timeless,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you can't say, Sammy
Speaker 1: and a woman who's now thirty five like me or
Speaker 1: or a little older, that she know what she was
Speaker 1: when she heard I Like It? You know what she
Speaker 1: was when she heard crazy things kiss me through the
Speaker 1: phone and come with me, and you should be my girl,
Speaker 1: like hardball. They know. You know what I'm saying. That's nostalgia,
Speaker 1: that's ever lasting, timeless music. So why would I deviate
Speaker 1: from that in my adulthood. If I know that now
Speaker 1: at five to thirty five, I can create such a catalog,
Speaker 1: that means at sixty, I'm still here if I want
Speaker 1: to be grown and sexy and performing and charging whatever
Speaker 1: I want to charge for tours. So it's just about
Speaker 1: a preference. If you care about chasing mainstream, then you're
Speaker 1: gonna sing rap and turn on the auto tune and
Speaker 1: and and fit in with everybody else, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But if you want to be ever lasting,
Speaker 1: then you're gonna give people that's going to pack the souls.
Speaker 1: And once you get that soul, man, you got them forever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people you know, And and it's
Speaker 1: it's so many layers to an executive sign the bullshit. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, I used to go through artist development before
Speaker 1: they put me out. When they signed me and Apollo,
Speaker 1: they didn't just throw me out to the world. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They made shot. I knew how
Speaker 1: to speak, I know how to enunciate. I knew how
Speaker 1: to uh swerve a question that would call some controversy
Speaker 1: if I answered the correctly. They made me do conditioning
Speaker 1: and sing to boys the Men album straight to make
Speaker 1: sure I don't get winded on Nah these days. If
Speaker 1: you got three hits on this, two million views on
Speaker 1: this and five million week yeah, yeah, So it's a
Speaker 1: different time, you know, you know, it's so easy now.
Speaker 1: It's just it's the easiest time to get a deal.
Speaker 1: It's the easiest time to have a hot summer. You
Speaker 1: have to Everybody got a I phone, right, that's your television.
Speaker 1: Just got to connect that connect the game change, you know.
Speaker 1: But I'm all for the changes because I'm not a dinosaur.
Speaker 1: I'm not fighting the evolution. You even you either evolved
Speaker 1: or you evaporated. Let me ask you this, since we're
Speaker 1: speaking on raw voices and you know, natural flow without
Speaker 1: any enhancements and all that kind of ship. What happened
Speaker 1: at the Persons? Yeah, I mean it was it was
Speaker 1: a lot happening. What happening you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, for me, for me, and would be honest
Speaker 1: and all these all these guys are my guys, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I got a group
Speaker 1: the rs VP. Yeah, shout out to Ray, Shout out
Speaker 1: to a Pleasure, shout out to valor Um. It was
Speaker 1: a lot first of all, uh after after Versus though,
Speaker 1: the only two people that were talking about that could
Speaker 1: sing was myself and Mario. Right but right, I didn't
Speaker 1: even go there to sing, like I've been a Corona
Speaker 1: already know I could sing, So it's not even what
Speaker 1: Versus is about. Versus is like about compete and record
Speaker 1: the record. So really I came there personally to pop
Speaker 1: my ship, you know what I'm saying, which is that
Speaker 1: which I did. But the people that exposed themselves truthfully,
Speaker 1: I've always known that they aren't the strongest vocally. The
Speaker 1: world just didn't know, and they also have They also
Speaker 1: have known that. But you know, I will say this,
Speaker 1: we had the largest view, the most controversial, most talked
Speaker 1: about Versus to date thus far right, and I think
Speaker 1: there's a blessing in the chaos of it all. Everybody
Speaker 1: quote unquote are saying they want real singing back, in
Speaker 1: real music back, and we'll see how true that is.
Speaker 1: Because if that was true, artists like Luke James, Avery Wilson,
Speaker 1: Kevin Ross, Uh, Lucky Day, who's amazingly talented on stage
Speaker 1: and off. Miguel like, these guys will be running the
Speaker 1: R and B game and not who whomever. I don't
Speaker 1: even know who's running the R and B game at
Speaker 1: this point, but you know what I'm saying, Talent has
Speaker 1: been there. It's just that again, not was force fed
Speaker 1: on the people were versus was really a celebration, man.
Speaker 1: I know, ray for sure got to turn. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Um Marion, if you know marioon have
Speaker 1: been following him since B two K. He's always been
Speaker 1: a dancer. He's an entertainer. He's not the strongest vocally,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you put that against
Speaker 1: somebody who's top five in my opinion vocally, Mario, Mario
Speaker 1: is gonna get slaughter. Mario been that though, he just
Speaker 1: had to be. He just was. I didn't say that,
Speaker 1: I just yeah, ray J was. Ray J was super lit.
Speaker 1: Let me say that, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you gotta understand, man. They had us
Speaker 1: at the venue at four o'clock, right. They always to
Speaker 1: be punctual, So we're trying to be professional, but they
Speaker 1: put us in the room full of cosom egos and
Speaker 1: goddamn all kinds of ship. Right, it's no sound check,
Speaker 1: so we're just sitting around. What you think gonna happen.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start taking shots, start talking, some people smoking.
Speaker 1: It's it's a party. It's at l A and everybody
Speaker 1: had a good time. So I think Ray J just
Speaker 1: took a tooth bar like. He didn't even know he
Speaker 1: was sounding like that until the next day. So, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was. It was fun, it
Speaker 1: was chaotic. I was on it and super grateful to
Speaker 1: be a part of it. But singing was never my man.
Speaker 1: Singing and singing that's easy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's the other stuff. It's funny though. If none of
Speaker 1: that stuff had have happened, it wouldn't have been the
Speaker 1: talk of the world. They're still talking about, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And they've never been an rs v P.
Speaker 1: And we really got some ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I never wanted to be in no group, you know,
Speaker 1: I've always been a soloists, you know, so what So
Speaker 1: speaking of just a situation, where are you at with
Speaker 1: Ray J now because we all seen the balls and stuff. No, no,
Speaker 1: that's the cuffs are like, was it just some talking ship?
Speaker 1: It was nothing. It was absolutely nothing. We went to
Speaker 1: me p you know, ray J went to the Magic
Speaker 1: City daytime Shift, and then we went to Pink Pony.
Speaker 1: Mind you, I don't if you on me. I don't
Speaker 1: be out in Atlanta like anywhere. I'm in the studio,
Speaker 1: the crib. I'm laid back. I like little hookah lounges
Speaker 1: and ship like that. I'm in the club and less
Speaker 1: I'm getting paid to type ship. But I'm with a group,
Speaker 1: so I'm going with them and I'm be getting lit.
Speaker 1: I get an suv and I reached for the door
Speaker 1: to close the door, but there's no door where I reached.
Speaker 1: My equilibry was off, and I simply feel out the
Speaker 1: suv and scrape my face and broke my phone. But
Speaker 1: A well, but no, no J, we like the I've
Speaker 1: been you know, I killed him on versus. So I
Speaker 1: think he's trying to get some get back personally, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So he can't wait to catch
Speaker 1: me because then even in the studio when we're working
Speaker 1: on music, he's like, I bet you can't do this
Speaker 1: right now, I bet you can't do this, Like it's
Speaker 1: just a brotherly love, competitive you know nature on the ship,
Speaker 1: like there was an alter case, yeah, because I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so so I would go to the guest room.
Speaker 1: When I pass out at Peace Crib, my phone is broken,
Speaker 1: so yeah, pleasure. The next day I wake up and
Speaker 1: when I got my phone fixed, everybody was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're about to pull up on ray J and fuck
Speaker 1: them up. My god, you know, all my little my people.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what y'all talking about? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? And it was like ray J was on
Speaker 1: Live saying he fought you and you ain't fight back.
Speaker 1: I was like, here you go trolling again. We know
Speaker 1: how to run the internet, though, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like nobody in this group me p ray By physically
Speaker 1: ever violently touched each other that had never happened, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, not not for me, Like
Speaker 1: I don't even play that I'm thirty five years old
Speaker 1: on slap box for fun because if you hit me
Speaker 1: in my face too crazy, it's going down forever. Like
Speaker 1: I don't even I'm I'm raised a different kind of way.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thirty five money, I'm getting money. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was no, it was no fight. He would really
Speaker 1: were just trolling. Y'all spoke after that. Rachel called me
Speaker 1: this morning, Yeah and the like were good. There's something
Speaker 1: to some ship that we have us to talk about
Speaker 1: just talking about everything like we actually yeah, we actually
Speaker 1: like play off of it. You know, this whole this
Speaker 1: whole group was built off this functions in the group Ray, myself,
Speaker 1: Valentino and Pleasure P. You know what I'm saying. When
Speaker 1: drop we drop a single next month's called money Everywhere.
Speaker 1: We've been working with hit maker Troy Taylor. We just
Speaker 1: did something with Jazz Prince Um Tone Stiff, like we
Speaker 1: got some records. That's the funny part. Like we're not
Speaker 1: even we didn't ask for this, you feel me versus
Speaker 1: did it. And every time we get on live and
Speaker 1: every time we troll and talk shit, it's on the
Speaker 1: shade room like we don't we're not doing nothing but
Speaker 1: being all we are crazy and wow, like me falling
Speaker 1: out of STUV equates to me and Raj getting in
Speaker 1: the altercation because he said so no footage and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was it's if we got
Speaker 1: in the fight at Pink Pony y'ard somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody gonna captuk now ray J my brother, I love him.
Speaker 1: I'll never put my hands on Rage. I've never put
Speaker 1: my hands on Pee. I've never put my hands on Vibe.
Speaker 1: Like I'm a real keen man. I'll move like that.
Speaker 1: I got too much, too much, too much invested into
Speaker 1: other things where I'm gonna conduct myself in a violent matter.
Speaker 1: You know, I got security for that. I got uncles
Speaker 1: that will due time for that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's never a time where unless nigger literally hook
Speaker 1: on me, then I'm going for blood. But not me
Speaker 1: and Regeing never touched each other in the violet manner
Speaker 1: clarity on big facts. Yeah, how was it with the
Speaker 1: women growing up? Did you have them lock in a
Speaker 1: relationship with Yeah, I'm actually a relationship kind of guy,
Speaker 1: but they just don't work. I've been I've been in
Speaker 1: like three four of serious relationships in my life. One
Speaker 1: was four and a half years. That was my fault.
Speaker 1: I understand the idea of being monogamous, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I shouldn't have even been in relationship at
Speaker 1: that time, and then uh one was maybe my karmel.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I just got I got
Speaker 1: out of a break up in January, relationship in January.
Speaker 1: But it was her she cheated, it wasn't me. So
Speaker 1: do you think that you're My past with relationships has
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that you are well known
Speaker 1: R and B singer, and most of the time that
Speaker 1: well known R and B singers are simultaneously considered ladies men. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean my job is to please the ladies.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everything that I am is
Speaker 1: because of a woman. You feel me everything like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got some male fans, but partly women. So that's
Speaker 1: a conflict of interest when you got to give all
Speaker 1: of yourself, especially now with social media, right, they want
Speaker 1: to know what you drink, what you smoke, which you
Speaker 1: where what you don't know? What I'm saying, Yeah, everything
Speaker 1: you think going to take for you to have a
Speaker 1: successful relationship. Um, a woman that's gonna willing to adjust
Speaker 1: to me, you know what I'm saying, and me not
Speaker 1: trying to adjust to her music would never be secondary
Speaker 1: to nothing. You know what I'm saying, like she's after
Speaker 1: the music. But when I say that, because music is
Speaker 1: my livelihood, it's how I sleep at night, and so
Speaker 1: how I take care of my mom, pops, my siblings.
Speaker 1: Uh So I'm always got to unapologetically be my full self. Right. Um,
Speaker 1: I could have we could have a date Friday plan,
Speaker 1: But if I got to go to New York to
Speaker 1: handle some business, then guess what that date. I don't
Speaker 1: have to go on the back burning cause Sami going
Speaker 1: to New York and that's not negotiable, you know. So
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a woman that understands who I am,
Speaker 1: understand the struggle. If you can understand my struggle, that's
Speaker 1: why I talk about the seven years of struggle. Try
Speaker 1: to be famous for seven years, right, or try being
Speaker 1: famous for seven years and you're not driving the vehicle
Speaker 1: at the world think you should be able to drive it.
Speaker 1: There's a pressure that people try to keep up with
Speaker 1: the hype. Never mean I know how to be cool
Speaker 1: and the Nissan road You know why because I had one. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't have one, but I've written in one from Enterprise.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm I'm cool and whatever.
Speaker 1: But now I'm in a different place where I could
Speaker 1: buy a roley, I could buy me and my manager
Speaker 1: a little cool little chain, I could take trips, and
Speaker 1: I got out the mud, like, so why would I
Speaker 1: ever stop being myself that can propel me to the
Speaker 1: next level I'm trying to get to. So she's just
Speaker 1: gonna have to be strong, confident, overly communicate, have a
Speaker 1: lot of God in her, and m understanding. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, what I'm doing is ultimately going to
Speaker 1: benefit my person period. The house you want, the trip
Speaker 1: you want to take, the dinners you want to go on.
Speaker 1: If the world don't love saying me, then how can
Speaker 1: I do that for you? You You feel me? Dre kid,
Speaker 1: I'm ready though at least one. So you do want kids?
Speaker 1: And that woman though, ye for me because I don't
Speaker 1: did everything all the girls, all the you name it,
Speaker 1: I've seen it, did it. But how you shape that?
Speaker 1: Knowing it is so easy for the negative got and
Speaker 1: just have what whatever woman you want and just don't
Speaker 1: get Yeah, you gotta have man. I'm big on therapy,
Speaker 1: right and I go to therapy like once a month,
Speaker 1: and uh, boundaries or something. I never just obeyed boundaries.
Speaker 1: Give you example, I just was in Houston talking on
Speaker 1: weekend landry party, trying to a stripper party. And I've
Speaker 1: never just been a strip club guy anyway. I ain't
Speaker 1: really rather go spend money on a girl on with
Speaker 1: and happy ending, you know what I'm saying, and just
Speaker 1: go to a strip club and both thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: when I could have did something else with it. That's
Speaker 1: always been me, But it was too much going on,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. For me, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So how you how therapy can't help them situational with something? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but see not I can because you understand that it's
Speaker 1: adress that we go a lot of times. We can
Speaker 1: understand we have demons. Right, Well, let me start this first.
Speaker 1: We don't understand we have demons. First, you think you're
Speaker 1: not even addicted to anything until you say, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna drink for a month. See if you can really
Speaker 1: go thirty days instead of on the fifth day, Well,
Speaker 1: I can have some wine, pull it, pull the weed
Speaker 1: away for two months? If she see who controls who? Yeah,
Speaker 1: go absent for a month. See if you're gonna go
Speaker 1: crazy and have to watch porn o d every day
Speaker 1: and she ain't really working like that. No it's not,
Speaker 1: but it hasn't. She ain't gonna work for them here
Speaker 1: An not wors for something saying like just say Vincent bro,
Speaker 1: like he said, I went through seven years of ship
Speaker 1: by myself. It's like, and I'm thirty five, How can
Speaker 1: I start to believe some ship that I never believe before?
Speaker 1: You got the point I still I still remain and
Speaker 1: you know I'm being cheated on. Yeah, now that's that's
Speaker 1: what you're gonna start like, there's trauma. That's trauma for sure,
Speaker 1: that's what That's what you have to You have to
Speaker 1: go to therapy. But when you go to therapy, therapy
Speaker 1: still not gonna allow you to tell you Okay, it's you.
Speaker 1: You know the decision ultimately you How hard is that decisions?
Speaker 1: Definitely it's an everyday challenge, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I when I when I realized, you
Speaker 1: know what, the liquor and all these girls walking around, Ah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to let my demon out, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Let me slide. Just went to the
Speaker 1: hotel and the best thing I could do because nig
Speaker 1: is getting knocked out, his fights, all kind of crazy
Speaker 1: going on out there. So you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I stayed out the way I survived Tycoon and survived
Speaker 1: Tykoon is the whole thing. You know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: But it's just it's just really about what you want to.
Speaker 1: Let me say, like I genuinely have done the whole
Speaker 1: five teen fifteen twenty girl roster. Right, that's too many girls,
Speaker 1: too many emotions, too many different personalities. It's hard to
Speaker 1: keep one happy. It's just it's just is the naturally
Speaker 1: emotional that naturally why it diffinitely than in right me personally,
Speaker 1: I value piece more than anything in this planet. And
Speaker 1: I think I give off hubby vibes. So no girls
Speaker 1: really just want to just I'm the one. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like like the first date, like I
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying that the vibes I
Speaker 1: give all And I understand that because I do talk
Speaker 1: about God, you know what I'm saying. But I'm balanced.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna gigg out. I'm like very I drink,
Speaker 1: but then I detox. I smoke sometimes, but I'm always
Speaker 1: be on point, keep the business right so it's like
Speaker 1: girls they fall in love with me. So imagine having
Speaker 1: ten fifteen girls all thinking the same thing about you.
Speaker 1: You can't make them all happy. I'd rather put my
Speaker 1: energy into one if my spirit in my heart leads
Speaker 1: me to her. But I'm not gonna force nothing, And
Speaker 1: I'm still not gonna say it's gonna be easy to
Speaker 1: just be with one girl. That's when you put your
Speaker 1: energy into one Like when you put your energy into
Speaker 1: one being, that's when all the ship go to play
Speaker 1: back on trauma. And when I tried this, this happened
Speaker 1: in the same ship too. You know, if the first
Speaker 1: little thing is gonna make you open some more ship up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's in Atlanta. Like you in Atlanta, man, you all
Speaker 1: day that's just funked up. Like you gotta go to
Speaker 1: a different city, man, to be in this type of relationships.
Speaker 1: You you know, you know it's crazy for me. I
Speaker 1: think I think it's definitely outside. It's definitely a tough
Speaker 1: state to data and for show, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I behave more. You know, I'm more on deck
Speaker 1: in Atlanta than I am out of town, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because I'm not outside, like unless there's
Speaker 1: some money involved. You got, It's four spots I go
Speaker 1: to in Atlanta religiously, and none of them are popping
Speaker 1: like that. It's like ducked off spots. While I'm drinking,
Speaker 1: I'm smoking hookah and I'm back to the crib. I'm
Speaker 1: only out for the bread in the gym, in the studio,
Speaker 1: like I'm not in the bed to switch it in
Speaker 1: get out of there. No, you know, but it just
Speaker 1: it really boils down to what you want. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm not. I'm not no longer forcing it.
Speaker 1: Think back then and I was such a lover boy,
Speaker 1: and really I didn't have enough going on in my
Speaker 1: business life that I just wanted love just to be h.
Speaker 1: I got a candle line, I'm a franchise owner of
Speaker 1: a hookah lounge. Now, I got damn got Sami album,
Speaker 1: rs VP album, going on my fifth tour in the
Speaker 1: last six years. Like so I'm moving to and I'm
Speaker 1: not stopping. You know what I'm saying like this, I
Speaker 1: never just wanted to do music. I always wanted to
Speaker 1: be a mogul, you know what I'm saying. In a
Speaker 1: young bosson diversify my portfolio. So love isn't like a necessity.
Speaker 1: Love is a feeling. If I feel it, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give it a fair chance, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And if she whomever shoots herself in the foot already
Speaker 1: dealt with that, like I already had my heart broken,
Speaker 1: it's cool. I'm gonna flip that makes some amazing music
Speaker 1: and make some ms off that and thank you. What's
Speaker 1: the main thing you think you love about being in
Speaker 1: the same um for real? For real? Just being able
Speaker 1: to touch the people man, and spread godliness? Like everything,
Speaker 1: I'm the definition of if you're a spiritual person man,
Speaker 1: like the Book of Job. Like I had it all
Speaker 1: and I lost it all, but I stayed faithful to God.
Speaker 1: I knew at some point he was gonna bring me back,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And Uh, to be able
Speaker 1: to share my story and thousands or millions of people
Speaker 1: are willing to hear my story due to the gift
Speaker 1: of song is like that's a powerful thing. So really,
Speaker 1: just to touch and change lives, man, Because I've I've
Speaker 1: I've traveled, I've seen all the countries, I've seen the
Speaker 1: United States a million times. That's a blessing. But I
Speaker 1: guess really to to be able to speak some positivity
Speaker 1: and peace and light and love into the world just
Speaker 1: because I'm saying and they'll listen, just because I'm saying me.
Speaker 1: That's like the most amazing part um And I think
Speaker 1: that at the end of the day, I believe in
Speaker 1: life after death got to be pleased at that's my mission.
Speaker 1: It's not about me, it's about him. M hmm. It's
Speaker 1: hard when you when you see all the debase online,
Speaker 1: people saying R and B is dead or who killed
Speaker 1: R and B and so forth and so forth. What's
Speaker 1: what's your take on that. I'm not as emotionally invested
Speaker 1: because I always think from a like marketing standpoint mine
Speaker 1: so did. He said that right when he launched Love
Speaker 1: Records with Motown Right, which is an R and B
Speaker 1: driven label, and when he just released like what He
Speaker 1: Feels is the Record of the Summer with Bryson. Mh
Speaker 1: that was just look at me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like and listen to my record. That's all I got
Speaker 1: from that, Like kids like all publicity. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: like I fall out the suv and skin my face
Speaker 1: and ray J said he beat me up, and then
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about it for a week and then it's
Speaker 1: on to the next thing, like yeah, now we're dropping
Speaker 1: a single one two weeks, money everywhere, get that, Like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like to me, I don't
Speaker 1: think did he was a mentor of of Ussher Raymond,
Speaker 1: who was still the king of R and B. Right,
Speaker 1: and if we want to make it uncomfortable, the king
Speaker 1: of R and B before us is locked up in prison.
Speaker 1: R Kelly, all right, So so Usher is still creating,
Speaker 1: Tank is still creating. Like I said, lucky days there,
Speaker 1: give On is giving out R and B vibes come
Speaker 1: on like it's so it's a plethora. It's just not
Speaker 1: And I'm glad he said that though, because the person
Speaker 1: that can influence a shift in the culture is who
Speaker 1: did he? Like, I'm glad he said it. That's who
Speaker 1: we need to say it because if did he wants
Speaker 1: to bring back R and B to mainstream, guess what
Speaker 1: that radiore gonna do. Goddamn star playing R and B
Speaker 1: music mainstream again. So like didd he is, I love
Speaker 1: did he? You know what I'm saying, Like it's one
Speaker 1: of the goats. One of a living icon. Literally, So
Speaker 1: if anybody can start the conversation and shake the room,
Speaker 1: shake the table, it's him. So I'm glad he's taking this,
Speaker 1: like uh, the initiative to to bring love back. I
Speaker 1: love it. I love it like I love it like
Speaker 1: so I didn't feel no kind of way because I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's a marketing from a marketing standpoint's genius. But also
Speaker 1: he has the voice. It's gonna take a diddy to
Speaker 1: really let these DJs, no man, hey man, make it
Speaker 1: sexy in here and play from R and by radio
Speaker 1: bring some love back to the world. Like everybody's shooting
Speaker 1: and killing, because that's all we get to hear every day.
Speaker 1: That's all you're consuming. That's it. These little kids, these
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen seven kids are shooting. What are they listening to?
Speaker 1: That ain't no love? Ain't know you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When I grew up, Sammy worked as a kid because
Speaker 1: there was such thing as puppy love. These little kids
Speaker 1: ain't playing outside and the last time you've seen kids
Speaker 1: is riding bikes. And they got to get home when
Speaker 1: the lights come on, right the street lights. I live
Speaker 1: in a nice neighborhood, with kids, and I don't never
Speaker 1: see the kids except when they get off the school bus,
Speaker 1: like see them go inside, and I never see them again.
Speaker 1: We used to be out there hooping and playing football
Speaker 1: and drinking water out the water holes on the side
Speaker 1: of the house just so we don't go back in
Speaker 1: the house and to running around the people and ship
Speaker 1: and doing something. Still, you know what I'm saying. Still
Speaker 1: when mangoes at the mango tree or some ship, like,
Speaker 1: we're not doing that. They're going home on this phone
Speaker 1: on these our paths and they're becoming robots. And the
Speaker 1: things that they are seeing and they have access access
Speaker 1: to is a lot of violence, a lot of sex,
Speaker 1: a lot of killing, a lot of shooting. And that's
Speaker 1: all on the radio. HM. So if you want to
Speaker 1: bring some love back, Diddy is the person that can
Speaker 1: definitely get it going and get it's up for us,
Speaker 1: you know, to create it and convey it and live
Speaker 1: in it. We're not getting big on your on your
Speaker 1: like two decade plus journey of making music. Have you
Speaker 1: ever desired, especially when you kind of get in your
Speaker 1: other mode to wrap or be a rapper or never
Speaker 1: you never started working around and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I mean I've done some some like mixtapes. I think
Speaker 1: like two thousand I was mixtapes. Crazy. Um, so it's
Speaker 1: some it's some rap, not song, but like some implements
Speaker 1: of of wrap in the music. But now, man, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just the Florida boy, like my my, my, my
Speaker 1: lyon my beast is just I was raised that way,
Speaker 1: don't I'm not scared of ship because I've seen it.
Speaker 1: Like I was raised in Liberty City for some time,
Speaker 1: like they were on first four day all the time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, hearing gunshots and we have
Speaker 1: just roaches, we had rats and know how to lay
Speaker 1: down a little trap for that. Like, so that side
Speaker 1: of me is just that side of me because that's
Speaker 1: just what I grew up in. But I knew early
Speaker 1: I could sing my way out of that lifestyle. So
Speaker 1: I'm not about to start at thirty five men. And
Speaker 1: I live a peaceful life in the suburbs of Atlanta,
Speaker 1: rapping the tractor. And I don't like you gotta be
Speaker 1: careful what you put out there energy wise. You want
Speaker 1: to be a tough guy, cool, yeah, then somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: try to punch you and knock you out or take
Speaker 1: your chain me. I'll be by myself in the a
Speaker 1: all the time, jewels on, money in my pocket. And
Speaker 1: I'm saying this knowing it's gonna come out, not saying
Speaker 1: I'm welcoming energy to be funcked with. But I showed
Speaker 1: everybody love you feel me? Man, woman, child, I'm gay, straight,
Speaker 1: I don't care. Love is love, So I put out
Speaker 1: the energy that I want to receive. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: not in though fights, just why I'm not getting robbed.
Speaker 1: It's why It's like if somebody suck with me that
Speaker 1: nigger was just down, super bad and just want to
Speaker 1: fun with me, because I have nothing but love for
Speaker 1: everybody mid robbery, I'd be like nigger hopping the whip.
Speaker 1: Let me let's talk about it. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they want to change what I'm saying, but my spirit
Speaker 1: is like let me really help change your life type
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but not what I'm saying is I don't
Speaker 1: have no I don't have no aspirations to be no
Speaker 1: rapper man. I'm singing and in business man. That's it.
Speaker 1: I'm cool with. Stay in my lane. I like it here.
Speaker 1: Do you still feel like you know you still, do
Speaker 1: you still feel like you can maybe make a record
Speaker 1: bigger than I like, you might feel like you made
Speaker 1: better ones, But do you feel like you might make
Speaker 1: a record bigger than that? At this point? I mean,
Speaker 1: don't get no bigger than number one? But can I
Speaker 1: make another number one? For sure? Yeah? That's easy. It's
Speaker 1: just I understand what comes with making a hit record.
Speaker 1: It's not the record just solely by itself. Is the
Speaker 1: machine behind it? You know what I'm saying people, It's
Speaker 1: not like just a hit record. If the label don't
Speaker 1: press the SAMI button on that record, I don't care
Speaker 1: if you got Drake on it. If if they don't
Speaker 1: champion it, now put some millions up in No, it's
Speaker 1: just gonna be a cool song with Drake on it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But can I create a
Speaker 1: number another number one? Yeah? The easiest thing in my
Speaker 1: life is creating music, good music, great music. And every
Speaker 1: record won't be a number one. Some would be anthem,
Speaker 1: some would be a spiritual connection, some wonna be a
Speaker 1: sex song. But at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: cannot create bad music because I've dedicated my whole life
Speaker 1: to that craft. You know what I mean just like
Speaker 1: that's the one thing I can't fail at. So yeah,
Speaker 1: can I create some more number ones for self? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: And now that I'm with the gang rs V paid
Speaker 1: for sure. It's just a matter of the machine getting
Speaker 1: behind and doing what they're supposed to do. It takes
Speaker 1: a village, you know what I'm saying. It's not about
Speaker 1: just the artist doing his part. It takes everybody. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm top to bottom. You thank too amazing right now,
Speaker 1: we boss is enough. We all got enough money by
Speaker 1: ourselves individually to uh do what we do. I mean
Speaker 1: we've gotten some some some office. Uh. It's so funny
Speaker 1: because no one's even really heard the music, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They just this this group ship. There's
Speaker 1: no pressure. It's fun because they're expecting it to fail.
Speaker 1: For really, I think they just want to watch it crumble,
Speaker 1: you know what. They want to watch it because it's entertaining.
Speaker 1: They want to watch it because Sammy and Raj always
Speaker 1: like bicker and then played Pussure peace crazy and Bob
Speaker 1: just be chilling and happy to be here. Like it's
Speaker 1: an interesting concoction of guys to put together. But uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the ball rolling on our own that
Speaker 1: way if we have a partner and signing to nobody.
Speaker 1: But if we have a partner, you know, you can't
Speaker 1: come with no peanuts. We all individually have success. We're
Speaker 1: all cool, we all choring, we all got Ray Jay's mogul.
Speaker 1: He's straight, you know what I'm saying. Sammy straight, pe straight,
Speaker 1: Bob straight. So he just had to make a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. That's all a lot of sense. When the
Speaker 1: Graham you said, five more years and you're hanging up
Speaker 1: the music and you're retiring, that was real. That's my spirit,
Speaker 1: you know. And they say we make plans and God laughs,
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, for sure. I always wanted. But that
Speaker 1: was always the man done with music, not done creating it.
Speaker 1: Because you say I will always create, because I if
Speaker 1: I don't create, and I feel like I saw, I
Speaker 1: saw and three thousand say something like, you don't feel good,
Speaker 1: like I damn ever feel sick if I'm not the
Speaker 1: studio too long ago, if I'm off the stage, trung
Speaker 1: me too, Like, I think that's just what creatives feel,
Speaker 1: but not in the front. I've been through so many
Speaker 1: things and so many different areas of his music thing.
Speaker 1: Now I could get an artist and got him. I
Speaker 1: heard the right way. I'm gonna always write music because
Speaker 1: my opinions ever lasting, you know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: But I just don't want to have to tour. You know,
Speaker 1: when people it's a difference from when you do music
Speaker 1: to survive and you do it just because you love
Speaker 1: to do it. Even right now, I'm just doing music
Speaker 1: because I love to do it, So I want to
Speaker 1: love it at least for five more years and right
Speaker 1: off into the sunset. I have a vision that you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't get the retired music. The
Speaker 1: industry retired him, if that makes sense. The world don't
Speaker 1: care no more. Or a scandal happened, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it's just some where niggas just don't
Speaker 1: get to say bye to the game the right the way,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Who would have thought Archad
Speaker 1: like that? You know, a rumor took this person out
Speaker 1: like I ain't. I'm one of the as far as
Speaker 1: my brain is concerned, y'all, ain't never see saing me
Speaker 1: and nothing. He's problematic. Yeah, that's why that's why the
Speaker 1: RSPP thing is so funny, because y'all get to see
Speaker 1: like I'm finally once talked in some controversy. But even
Speaker 1: if it's not true, it's like a big thing like
Speaker 1: I got I never had to get on Instagram black. Hey,
Speaker 1: I was drunk last night, nigga, feil just get my face,
Speaker 1: broke my phone, lost my ad that's but yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't so don't play about myself. So let's be
Speaker 1: clear that if somebody fight me, all I have a
Speaker 1: terrible attitude, like I will fight this nigga across You
Speaker 1: know that he will fight. Yeah, like you want to,
Speaker 1: I don't want to. But I have no problems, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm just that's why. That's
Speaker 1: why I don't be wanting no problem, Like it's the
Speaker 1: peaceful niggas. That's the niggas with the ship because you're
Speaker 1: sucking up the piece. So I gotta suck you up
Speaker 1: every time I see you. You You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm not uh five years man, I just want
Speaker 1: to I did everything I wanted to do in music,
Speaker 1: Like I got my flowers on the Millenium tour. I
Speaker 1: took my respect on versus never I never even thought
Speaker 1: God are so good. I'm so humble. I couldn't have
Speaker 1: done A Versus if it was built strictly on going
Speaker 1: head up against somebody. Because Sammy personally has seven to
Speaker 1: eight commercial hits. I don't have twenty. I've been independent
Speaker 1: since two thousand nine, you know what I'm saying, seven
Speaker 1: of those years of my career grinding getting back to
Speaker 1: where I'm at. So like I don't have the the
Speaker 1: consistency that Chris has had one label just pushing him
Speaker 1: since he was sixteen to be however, old years trade songs,
Speaker 1: one label, Atlantic or you know what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 1: Sammy don't want through management changes, label changes and said,
Speaker 1: funk everybody. I'm gonna learning ship on my own. So
Speaker 1: my path was different, but God is good. They created
Speaker 1: a whole format where oh me and p I wouldn't
Speaker 1: kill bobbing Ray, you know what I'm saying, Like like
Speaker 1: that was picture perfect for me. So it's like the
Speaker 1: only thing I think I expired to do is bring
Speaker 1: home a Grammy, and we know that's a little political,
Speaker 1: so right, right, So I've done everything. I got Number one,
Speaker 1: I got top tens, I've toured, I love music, I've
Speaker 1: seen the world no scandals. So when you when you
Speaker 1: hit porter, what you gonna do. I'm already doing what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. You know what I'm saying. I'm two
Speaker 1: years in the candle business. We got Simply Naked Candle car.
Speaker 1: I got a candle shop in Kanye's Georgia. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Shante Smith like candles. I saw you. Look, you
Speaker 1: can get your at a care package. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I got into the candle business to uh
Speaker 1: years ago. Um, so you can go to Simply Naked
Speaker 1: Candle Co. And order your Sami collection candles from there.
Speaker 1: That's resential income every month that I get. I can't
Speaker 1: name the franchise yet because we haven't announced it, but
Speaker 1: me and three other business partners we own who Gallouns.
Speaker 1: You're about to open up on the South Shot. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's already a franchise. I've invested
Speaker 1: back into that in December. Don't put a few bands
Speaker 1: into a stock that I ain't gonna touch for five
Speaker 1: years and we'll see what that do. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And um ship, But I got my entertainment game,
Speaker 1: not music like TV. Yeah, I want to get into acting.
Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah, like like I wanna I did a
Speaker 1: pilot like two years ago, and um, I had like
Speaker 1: two weeks to learn like thirty six pages or some
Speaker 1: ship and it was actually like amazing, Uh shout it
Speaker 1: out in their legs. So that's like my next pivot
Speaker 1: from the entertainment shot. I wanna be able to do everything, though,
Speaker 1: I don't want to just be diverse, one one dimensional.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Can I be a thug
Speaker 1: from anywhere for show? I'm tatted and that I said
Speaker 1: no to them four times already, but I do have
Speaker 1: I will say now, I actually can't say that we
Speaker 1: were revisiting. I personally don't want to do it because
Speaker 1: I don't have to do it. You see it, you
Speaker 1: feel like people who do it have to do it. No,
Speaker 1: I ain't know shade too. I don't even watch watch
Speaker 1: so so turned up on that ship. Some people pipe
Speaker 1: up and some people themselves. And I'm big onna can
Speaker 1: trolling my narrative. That's what I'm saying. When you you
Speaker 1: when you say something or do something, Yeah, they could
Speaker 1: spend it. I don't like people spending ship. What about
Speaker 1: a documentary? I could do a doc We could do
Speaker 1: a doct like if I did love and hip hop,
Speaker 1: it was strictly for whatever, And they're not gonna want
Speaker 1: this because it's born strictly about what I got going
Speaker 1: on in my business, you know what I'm saying, Not
Speaker 1: about who I'm dating and sex and like I keep
Speaker 1: that what about it behind the music? Yeah, it has
Speaker 1: to be about the music. Like I'm not just I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna want that. I'm not giving it. I don't
Speaker 1: got nothing to give it. You know, I don't got
Speaker 1: nothing to give to them, Like I live a peaceful life.
Speaker 1: I don't know drum in my life. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I really don't like like I don't so
Speaker 1: well that counts out. Yeah, they called. They called twice
Speaker 1: for l A. I said no things. And that was
Speaker 1: before the music started back popping, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That was another thing I didn't want to be like
Speaker 1: popping because I'm sex and this girl, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, or disrespecting this girl, or I cheated on
Speaker 1: this girl, Like no, that's the wrong ship. Like I
Speaker 1: wanted I'm doping up to be popping without the shenanigans.
Speaker 1: I like to just be you know, ethnically, morally in
Speaker 1: pocket and that's what people like about me. A poster.
Speaker 1: He always losing his mind, going crazy, and that's what
Speaker 1: we know him for. Is there a woman in your
Speaker 1: life you wish you could get back? No? Not, no, no, Um,
Speaker 1: it's not not it's nothing. Yeah, but it's not. I
Speaker 1: had to I want to fix that energy though it's
Speaker 1: no bad blood with none of my extras. Like I
Speaker 1: was blessed to have three four amazing women women in
Speaker 1: my life that I fell for at some point in time. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm just to kind of dude with once it serves
Speaker 1: this purpose. It served his purpose. I don't hold onto
Speaker 1: nothing that's bringing me down. Like I learned that the
Speaker 1: key to elevation is no, I want to let go.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I I wanted to marry
Speaker 1: my ex girlfriend, got permission, we got permission from her
Speaker 1: mom to propose, got permission from her twin brother to propose.
Speaker 1: Was talking to the jeweler about the ring and knowing
Speaker 1: how I'm about to do it. I ain't never had
Speaker 1: the balls to even ever get to that level, right,
Speaker 1: So when we broke up, I thought that it was
Speaker 1: the worst ship. You know, what I'm saying, and then
Speaker 1: life just started being amazing. That's when another I just
Speaker 1: got off the Millennium to an October November last year,
Speaker 1: I went on another tour of March through April for
Speaker 1: forty days with Eric Belinger, thinking I'm chilling versus happened,
Speaker 1: Thinking I'm chilling Millennium to a turned up about to
Speaker 1: start October to November rs VP happened. The money's coming
Speaker 1: in left and right. You know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: I'm just a piece and I'm not doing nothing, ain't
Speaker 1: put out a project in two years, just chilling them
Speaker 1: making money off of nostalgia and the history of Sammy.
Speaker 1: And I believe not saying she was holding me back,
Speaker 1: but if she was a person no if to think
Speaker 1: about it, if she was a person that was supposed
Speaker 1: to go with me, then she wouldn't be without like think,
Speaker 1: We'll be holding on the relationships and homeboards and niggas
Speaker 1: you grew up with for ten five team. So that's
Speaker 1: that's a clear example of God holding your blessing to
Speaker 1: the until you because because the thing is the thing
Speaker 1: is you've been knowing that this person and this individual,
Speaker 1: it's not just relationship. It could be your homie, it
Speaker 1: could be your your business partner. You know you you
Speaker 1: thought internally, like, man, this nigga just won't get right,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to take them with me. That's your problem,
Speaker 1: That's what your plan is. You're trying to take them.
Speaker 1: God is trying to say let go. But we wanted
Speaker 1: our way. We want to be at the top with
Speaker 1: all people right. We don't want people to to look
Speaker 1: at his funny and say he not with none of
Speaker 1: his day ones. I've learned this. A lot of my
Speaker 1: circle are not the niggas that I was around two
Speaker 1: thousand nine when I lost everything. Yeah, they did something
Speaker 1: along the way that they cut themselves out or I
Speaker 1: had to let them go. And I have no problem
Speaker 1: letting go anybody that don't serve me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You're not about to stop me, Like Sammy
Speaker 1: has a vision for himself that no man, no woman,
Speaker 1: not my mama, not my daddy, not my brother, not
Speaker 1: my sister. And I'm the ones I love the most.
Speaker 1: If I can reposition them some kind of way, if
Speaker 1: they're trying to pull me back or stop me, and
Speaker 1: I can definitely cut off a girl. So I think
Speaker 1: every extra that I had served her purpose, some for
Speaker 1: the better, something for the worst, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it's no love losses like that was the journey,
Speaker 1: and the journey is the destination. Show. You gotta let
Speaker 1: go if you if you want to go. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: I think sometimes like speaking about letting go and all
Speaker 1: that kind of shape when it comes to relationships, friendships
Speaker 1: and all of that, I think sometimes it's kind of
Speaker 1: hard for people to let go because when you're so
Speaker 1: loyal to a situation, they say you could be loyal
Speaker 1: to a fault, It's, yeah, you're loyal to a fault.
Speaker 1: And then when you even the thought of even like
Speaker 1: letting go this situation that you feel like you have
Speaker 1: to be loyal to kind of brings on an internal
Speaker 1: guilt sort of, and it's kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta do this, but it's like, damn, like is
Speaker 1: this what I'm really supposed to be doing? Like type yeah,
Speaker 1: but you don't know. And to Hans, you know, they
Speaker 1: say hindsight, right, So if you just stay, if you
Speaker 1: just stay, yeah, exactly know what I'm saying. You come,
Speaker 1: you come to your senses. In most cases so so
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like holding onto something and staying
Speaker 1: stacking in that same situation and expecting a different outcome
Speaker 1: is called insanity. Right, doing the same thing respecting a
Speaker 1: different result. Let go let God, let let them let
Speaker 1: him do a sting. So I don't I personally don't
Speaker 1: want any of my exras back one of them. One
Speaker 1: is engaged, I'm happy for her, one just thinks it
Speaker 1: is in a relationship, and the last one I don't
Speaker 1: haven't seen her since we broke up, don't know what
Speaker 1: she's doing, don't know where she at. God bless yeah,
Speaker 1: my karmer cleaning. I listen, God bless you, like seriously,
Speaker 1: Like it's I live a great life. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I live a great life. Like I I'm
Speaker 1: gonna always keep going. I'm gonna be straight with you
Speaker 1: or without you. It's just I want to take something
Speaker 1: with me for sure. So as the grandmar Whistle ship,
Speaker 1: you feel like you didn't get a chance to do
Speaker 1: in your career life that you really want to do. Um,
Speaker 1: there's just certain people I really respect and want to
Speaker 1: collab with. And I know if I was in the
Speaker 1: major situations at the time, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: We'll be able to make those plays happen. You know. Um,
Speaker 1: I got a record with two Chains, but that was
Speaker 1: like a play that the home he kind of put together,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I love Chains, I
Speaker 1: just love his character. You always showed me love when
Speaker 1: you see me. You know. Um, that is really who
Speaker 1: I could have been able to create magic with on
Speaker 1: a on a collapse type type ship. But I've also,
Speaker 1: in the same sentence, have worked with the Rick Rosses
Speaker 1: and the Little Babies and the Tea Pains and ship
Speaker 1: like that. So like, you know, it's just a few
Speaker 1: more people that I think if I played the game,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like from a major standpoint,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to go through so much red tape
Speaker 1: to to get certain ship done for sure. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Draco was actually on the tour last year,
Speaker 1: um for the Millenium Joints, So we rocked out every night.
Speaker 1: Uh It's me and Soldier Cool. We always got loved
Speaker 1: you know him him letting me on that record change
Speaker 1: my life too, because like I said, it was during
Speaker 1: the time where I really needed something, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So it was the equivalent of living like
Speaker 1: check the check, but will show the show. But it
Speaker 1: didn't allow me to drown. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Shout out to to Draco for um, that's crazy how
Speaker 1: God works. So I wasn't even that wasn't playing. I
Speaker 1: was going to a DJ kalett uh Ace Hood video
Speaker 1: shoot at the time, and Soldier was there and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got this song. I sound like shot on the
Speaker 1: hook man, come knock it out. And honestly I needed something,
Speaker 1: but I didn't think that was it because I never
Speaker 1: I just never saw me and Soldier doing a song together,
Speaker 1: you know. And then finally I come to the studio
Speaker 1: knock it out and it was the last song that
Speaker 1: he was there for his album, and he was like,
Speaker 1: we're about to drop this one second with Sean Kingston
Speaker 1: and then maybe dropped this one. They leaked it went
Speaker 1: crazy on YouTube. You know, he has missed the internet
Speaker 1: for real. Um changed our lives, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I got love for DRAKEO all the time. Anybody that
Speaker 1: ever funk with me when when I wasn't popping again,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I always will have the
Speaker 1: utmost respect and Naderation for you know, and Draco is
Speaker 1: one of those guys for sure. Show Man appreciate you
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