WEBVTT - Friday Happy Hour #16 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.960 Welcome back. It's a brand new episode. This is Laugh 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:30.640 with Me, a podcast with Jeremy Oda by Beer Oh Jo. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:35.360 It is the Friday Happy Hour, end of the week. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:43.360 Time to crack open that first Friday beer an unwind 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:49.120 from the week that was. This week, We've got special guest. 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.960 He's been on the show many at times. He's my 0:00:54.000 --> 0:01:00.520 brother Kyle Odum. We're gonna call him to so he's 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.920 not he's not live quite yet, but we're calling me 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.160 here a second. Here's what we're doing. We had the 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:09.920 Tiger King Joe Exotic calling in live from prison earlier 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.880 in the week. I know he's got some thoughts about it, 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.000 so we're gonna talk about it and uh, just kind 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.440 of unwind from the week. So let's uh let's get 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.640 the fellow a call right now. Let's see what's up. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:37.280 Yo yo. That's a good one. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:37.800 Thank you. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.200 I wish I could say I've been working on it, 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:41.360 but I absolutely have not. 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.760 Well, that was pretty president, Thank you. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:52.360 I was just doing the intro for Friday Happy Hour 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.880 and I was just saying, it's it's Friday Happy Hour, 0:01:56.040 --> 0:02:00.720 we're unwinding. It's from the week that's been and this 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:04.680 week I had the Tiger King and Joe Exotic calling 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:09.280 in from prison, and I know for a fact you've 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.600 got some thoughts. I've got some thoughts. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:14.160 Yeah. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.240 I thought it would be I thought it would be 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:18.920 fun to talk about it if you're down. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.680 Okay, so let's do this. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:23.280 What you got? 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:27.280 First? First thing? I first thing, if you remember, like, 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:31.880 because I know you've listened to the episode, and I thought, 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.240 and I just saw it literally seconds before he called. 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.920 I saw on his Instagram it said day two thousand, 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:46.880 five hundred and three of being wrongly imprisoned. And I thought, okay, well, 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.240 this is It's on his Instagram. I don't think he's 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.640 running the Instagram, like I don't, you know, I and 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.200 I he kind of made that clear because he had 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:56.720 no idea what I was talking about. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.880 But it is clearly, but it is. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:03.080 He's his official Instagram. And I thought, what a way 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.519 to kick off the conversation with you've been in prison 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.919 for two thousand, five hundred and three days. In hindsight, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.519 that sucks, right, Like why if you're. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.880 Going to hear that? Thanks for reminding me. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.120 If you've been in prison for twenty five hundred days, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.960 you probably don't really want to be reminded of just 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:25.239 how long you've been in there. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.360 Oh, He's like, yeah, and it's been awful everything on 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.359 one of them. Thanks Jeremy Glad I called you. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.160 I know, I felt so bad. I instantly was like, 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.960 that was a mistake, little way to kick this off. 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:41.560 I got the vibes that he didn't even know what 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.000 Instagram was. He's like, oh, is that what they put 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.360 up there? Yep? All right, well I guess I've been 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:49.080 in here. I don't know. 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.240 I tell you that's fair because he was picked up 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:56.360 in twenty eighteen, and who knows. I mean, I'm sure 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:00.560 he didn't even have an Instagram then, so who you know. 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:05.600 He obviously was on top of some things online because 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:09.200 he had an online TV show, you know he did. 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.920 He was on the internet, his choice, hold on his 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:13.440 own thing. 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.120 Yeah maybe all right. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.599 So remember, no, I never heard of this guy until Netflix. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.840 Okay, I know so and me too, like I've and 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:26.480 much like probably most of the people in the world 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.400 had never heard this guy until twenty twenty when the 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:33.600 Netflix show came out. But it locally, you know, in 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:38.679 his like in his world, he had his online show 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:43.039 where he would read Carol Baskin's diary and and update 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.560 people on what they kind of documented a little bit 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:51.320 of that. Yeah, so he's he wasn't unfamiliar with the Internet, 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.960 and he wasn't unfamiliar with like memes and and things 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:59.479 in that you know sense. But he probably has no 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.200 I mean he even say he has no clue how 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.240 big he is. But he has no clue that like 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.120 the world of social media today and just kind of 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.600 how it wraps are it's our world, you know. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.680 Yeah, no idea, but here's the deal. So he made 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.480 a big impact, right, that was the whole thing. The 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.520 whole world's talking about it. Yeah, but now it's gone. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.760 Right. But he's like, okay, listen to him. He's like, yeah, 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.160 when I get out of here, I'm gonna buy one 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.240 of them. Okay, let me back up. He's like, I 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.280 got no money to see these people. I got no 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:31.760 money to do any of this, right right. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.640 And then he's like, when I get out, I'm buying 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.160 one of them Trump five million dollar gold cards so 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.640 I can move my husband to America. It's like, homie, 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.800 you have five dollars, Like, where are you getting this 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:42.040 five million dollars? 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:42.680 What are we doing? 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.120 So and that goes back to like I was telling him, 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.760 you know, it's like, dude, thirty four million people watched 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.760 The Tiger King on Netflix in the first ten days 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.279 of release, and they had a season two. How many 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.160 documentaries do you know get a season two and a 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:02.560 season three? So on there's Yeah, it's not really about him, 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:09.640 it's about it's about that guy, doc Annel that just 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.400 got sentenced to a year in prison for animal trafficking, 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.919 and he's in you know, the first two seasons. But 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:19.520 it's more about like his world, but still the brand itself. 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.680 Oh yeah, he hates all those people. But but yeah, 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.400 like I think he's banking on I get out of prison. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.800 I have incredible value to my name, or at least 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:37.240 he believes he does, to the point that he can sell, 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:42.360 you know, certain rights to stories or he says he's 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.240 got three awesome movie deals right now on the table, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.800 but he needs to be out in order to make 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:49.560 this deal work. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.360 Yeah, but he's not out. So he's been in there 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.920 for how long do we say, so he's been in years? 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.040 Yeah, more than that. He's been in since twenty eighteen. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:00.560 He's on a twenty one year sentence. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.240 How far back is twenty five hundred days. Okay, so 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:04.080 twenty eighteen. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.560 So you got a wild guy fifteen years Like, what 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.840 do you who's this is wild? 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.080 He's gonna yeah, We're gonna make a movie when I'm eighty. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.520 I don't know, man, Well, playing is kind of a whack. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.119 That's if you're basing it on. He's gonna service twenty 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:20.640 one years. 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:20.880 Now. 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:25.160 Here's the thing. We've got the pardon situation on the table, 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.800 where he feels that he was wrongly accused, that there's 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.840 a lot of evidence out there now where the witnesses 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:36.080 are backtracking the things that they said in core or 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.240 on the record, and that the president is going to 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.680 give him a full pardon and he's gonna be out. 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:42.440 Yeah. 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.160 Well, first of all, that was one of my favorite 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:50.080 parts of the thing. I feel like he here's the deal. 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.280 He thinks that he's innocent. 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.760 Like, if you watched that thing, you know his feelings 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.240 on Caroll Basket. He straight up is hiring folks to 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.680 kill her. Yeah, Cecainly He's like, he's like, yeah, I'm 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.440 gonna get pardoned. Proceeds to name off the worst folks 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.000 in the world and he's. 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.560 Like, yeah, they're gonna get me out of here. It's like, dude, 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.080 you are what is happening right now? What is happening? 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.600 He does have the like the ear of the core 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.360 people that you would think of when you when you 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.360 think maga. 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.960 You know, do you think that's real though? Do you 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.840 think like people are actually like those people? Do you 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.240 think they're like, we got to get the Tiger King out. 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:30.840 That's just what this comes down to. 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.920 Well, it's tough. Who knows who knows how like active 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.520 they actually are in you know, you only get the 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:43.720 president's ear for what seconds probably if you do, you know, yeah, 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.280 And then is Joe Exotic the name that comes up 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.920 when you do have his ear, But they definitely get 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.880 asked about it, Like you can find press clippings of 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:59.000 you know, the press asking these very people about Joe Exotic, 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.280 and they are certainly aware of what's going on, but 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.959 that doesn't mean that they're actually actively you know, working 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.679 on the behalf of the Tiger King to get him 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:08.079 a pardon? 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.240 No, And are they asking that in the year of 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:16.640 our Lord twenty twenty five? Right, maybe twenty twenty maybe 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.760 twenty twenty one, I don't know. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.640 Did you catch my beeal juice joke. 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.959 Okay, I was like lost on the bed, like I 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.439 don't know anything about it. Okay, you were like, You're like, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:30.960 she really likes beal juice and he did. It was 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.000 now he was like, okay, I get brag. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:37.360 I did not think he would get the joke. So 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.559 it wasn't necessary. It wasn't for him. It was for 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:46.559 the audience. But so Lauren Bobert she a couple of 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.880 years ago, she was on a first date and she 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:55.360 went to see Beetlejuice the musical, and she may or 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:59.480 may not have been caught doing something inappropriate to her 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.840 first day while she was watching the show. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.120 That's awesome. Yeah, that's amazing. 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:12.040 Yeah, all right, now knowing that and now he's just like, okay, 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:13.319 that's hilarious. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:18.600 Yeah, so man, that's uh yeah, So that's I never 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.680 thought he would get it, because you know, he's probably 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:26.439 the amount of information he gets, I mean, it's very minimal, right. 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:28.800 I would think. So, I don't know, we got to 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.720 do an investigative. How do they get How much TV 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.560 can they watch to day? How can they how much 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.240 can they read what's going on in there? 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.960 That's a good question. I mean he wrote his book. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.600 He has a book. I didn't talk about the book 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.600 on the pod, but he does have a book out, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.000 and what do you do that? Well, I just I 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.320 knew I had limited time. So that's the other thing. 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.120 I didn't know how much time I was going to 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.640 have with him. I just knew I had until they 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:56.160 cut us off. So it ended up being fifteen minutes. 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.400 I didn't know I had fifteen minutes. I thought I 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.080 could have seven, I could have eight, Like I I 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.640 didn't know, right, I just knew it wasn't going to 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.040 be a lot. So I had a list of questions 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.480 I wanted to get to as mini as I could. 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.040 I wanted to ask follow ups where appropriate. But I 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:15.080 also knew I had limited time. So the music, to me, 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.960 was more important to talk about than the book. 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.000 Yeah, you turned to the music. What's that all about? 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.720 Have you? You mean? His music is a big part 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.120 of the of the documentary Tiger King. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:27.880 Where's Yeah? 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:32.800 So I was just so interested of is he writing 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.560 more music? Is this something he wants to do outside 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.679 when he gets out? Is this something he performs inside 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.800 for his for I almost said classmates, for his for 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.760 his inmates, like for me for the prisoners, Like is 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.319 this something he's doing and he's entertaining the masses inside? 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.400 I mean it sounds like that is a hard no. 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:52.480 But. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:58.040 Oh no, oh no, yeah, I just I was intrigued 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.240 by it because I just imagined sometimes all right, it 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:05.560 goes back to Seinfeld and the finale, the Seinfeld finale 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.480 when they end up in prison and then the very 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.920 like the very last scene, Jerry's doing stand up you know, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.440 for yeah, that's fair for the population. And I'm just like, 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:22.120 do entertainers do that? Like is R Kelly performing, you know, 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.560 like in prison? And they're just like, I can't wait 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.960 for this week's R. Kelly concert, you know, like I 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:28.440 don't know. 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.280 We just found out that's a definite no. 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:37.320 And you did you hear his his answer that you're like, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.560 you're on new music And then he goes on this 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.800 thing and then when he comes back, he's like, actually, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.840 I'm writing it and send it off to my girls 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.800 out there and they just put it in the AI 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.600 and it does the music and the vocals. So like 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.280 this dude's writing like three lines of words and he's 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.079 calling that writing music nowadays? 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:53.800 What's happening? 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.480 I know? AI just think of the kind of stuff 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.120 he could get out there right now if he was 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.840 out and he had a to do a lot of that. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.199 Oh my gosh, that's a scary thought. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.760 Oh he'd he'd be a monster, that's for sure. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.679 I want some Carole Baskin songs, So I get that. 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.520 I'm ready if the world is ready. 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.760 I think if I hit the hell k as hip part, 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.679 like all right. So I asked him about Doc Annel 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.880 and he he was very open about how that guy's 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:26.000 getting what he deserves to an extent, he's only got 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.800 one year. He's he's like almost jealous of it, you know, 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.520 he only got one year, whereas Joe Exotics in there 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.640 for twenty one. But like, it does seem like the 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.480 people around him that were in that documentary Tiger King, 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:43.120 they were all involved in something, yeah, and they're all 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.520 starting to now. It's just all kind of catching up 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.680 to him in one way or another. Man, I'm interested 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.079 to know if Carole Baskin, who seems like the cleanest 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.520 of the bunch, but there's all that rumor and inn 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.800 window that she killed her ex husband, so who knows. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.480 She definitely killed her husband. She's definitely a terrible person. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:02.200 Here's the deal. 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:06.120 When you're dealing with folks who own actual tigers, everything 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.520 is sketch. No part of their life can be queen. 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:09.960 Everything is all sketch. 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:14.720 Yeah, that's oh so funny story. So I had, you know, 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.839 I'm doing research for the for the interview, So I'm 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:21.600 watching Tiger King right and uh, Branden. He comes in 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.440 and he sees that there's like these people that just 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.600 have tigers, and he's like, holy cow, you could do that. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.440 Is that the guy you're going to talk to? Can 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.840 we get tigers? And I'm like, we are not getting tigers, 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.520 Like this is not a thing. Did you not catch 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.760 the part where he's calling from prison, like this is 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.480 not happening, dude. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.840 I love You're like, you guys are just having an interview. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.560 He's like telling us stories. Whatever's Like this call is 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.640 that's my favorite? I love. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.120 I debated. I'm like, do I take that out? Like 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.040 do I edit that out? Or is that kind of 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.120 like sets the tone for what is actually like because 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.760 there is a reality to this, Like he's you know, 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:04.560 he's a re reality TV personality of sorts. Yeah, but 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.840 but there is reality to this, whereas the the consequences 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.440 of his actions that we saw unfold, you know, in 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:15.120 twenty twenty with the Tiger King or why he is 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:16.280 where he is right now? 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.520 Oh yeah, no, that was great. That was great. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:23.440 And you gotta understand, when you hire somebody to kill somebody, 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:24.880 you're going to jail. 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:25.960 And not only are you going to. 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:27.320 Jail, you're gonna be in there and you're going to 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.600 be somehow sad that somebody else got a lesser sentence. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.440 You're just gonna completely ignore that you hired a human 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.280 to kill a human and be like, well, that guy 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:36.960 only got a hear what is going. 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.760 On here, right, you know? And so and one of 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.320 the guys, it's uh, I forget his name, but he's 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.160 in the documentary and he's one of the people that 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:49.400 worked for Joe at the zoo. But it's that guy, 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.160 you know that they kind of chronicle like that he 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.320 you know, allegedly paid to go down to Florida wherever 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:00.320 and try to kill Carol, right yeah. And one of 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:04.360 his stances right now is that that guy allegedly lied, 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:09.080 you know, in his in his testimony or whatever. And 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.400 that's some of the facts. But I was when I 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:18.040 was reading about the case. He also made uh pay. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.280 I don't know if he made payments or offer to 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.320 make payments to somebody to go do this murder for 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:26.920 hire to and undercover FBI like agents. So yeah, what 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:31.560 even if this guy, Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. So 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.400 I don't know what more he has, and I don't 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.480 know what kind of lawyer like team he's got because 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:38.720 that's not cheap, right, So. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.400 Well, he has five dollars, so his lawyer team cannot 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.400 be very good, although they could be doing the game 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.120 where like they're actually great lawyers because they know at 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:50.880 the end of this thing, hopefully they'll get paid. 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.680 So you never know. You never know. But here's the deal. 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.720 It's really not fair that he's in there for twenty 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.000 one years because he's just fixing babies faces. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:01.840 So he does that's. 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.800 Just fixing babies faces. 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I mean, 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:20.840 that's what That's why I told my family. 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:22.840 He was just, what are you gonna do out of prison? 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.800 Fix more babies faces? Okay, all right, that's cool. 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.240 It's smart on his behalf, though, to just if that's 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:30.679 the question, you know, what are you gonna do to 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.520 get in prison? And then instantly hit the the goodwill 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.560 things you did before, you. 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:37.760 Know, like, that's that's fair. 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.680 Yeah, I gotta get the job done. 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:45.520 Dude. That would have been awesome. That'd have been a 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:46.080 great answer. 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.439 Actually, he was, you know what, I didn't know what 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:51.760 to expect. I didn't know he's been in there a 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:55.359 long time at this point. I didn't know if we 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.680 were gonna get a beaten down. You know, he's sick, 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:02.199 you know, he's he's a special treatment facility for cancer 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:06.080 right now. So I didn't know what we'd get or 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:09.000 if we get a guy that was hopeful, energeticche and 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:11.359 just kind of felt like the day is coming soon 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:16.159 when when he's gonna get released. I was happy I 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.199 got the opportunity to ask him if he's on the 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:20.760 Epstein list. That was good. We got that out of 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:21.040 the way. 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.840 That was hilarious. I don't even know who Epstein is. 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.240 All he knows is that that name is in the 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.959 news and it's not good for Trump. That's all he knew. 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:39.920 It is not good, sir, oh man, what a what 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:40.440 a day? 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:40.720 Though? 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:45.320