WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Runnin With The Devil 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.320 I get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:13.160 The Bengals Booth Podcast. The Running with the debut addition, 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.040 because we look ahead to Sunday's game in Baltimore as 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.400 the Bengals try to slow down the Ravens formidable running 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:23.360 game led by Lamar Jackson and by the way, r 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.800 ip to Eddie Van Halen, who passed away this week 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:29.320 at the age of sixty five, one of the greatest 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.040 guitarists of all time. Coming up, Dave Lapham joins me 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:35.840 to discuss why Joe Mixon was so effective last week 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.840 and if Alex Redman should remain at right guard even 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:43.720 after Xavier sue Philo returns from injury. 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All right, 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.919 let's start with some news that broke on Wednesday morning. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.320 Joe Mixon was name the AFC Offensive Player of the 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.800 Week after his great game against Jacksonville. Twenty five carries, 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.239 one hundred and fifty one yards and two touchdowns, six 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.680 sketches thirty yards and another touchdown, one hundred eighty one 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.960 total yards which is a new career high. My question 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:25.079 for you is why, and here are your options. A. 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:31.040 Jacksonville stinks. B Alex Redman in the offensive line, we're 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.800 really good. Ce. Whatever they did at the hospital on 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.640 Saturday night when he had chess pains was powerful or 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.520 d it was simply a matter of time. I think 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.920 that the hospital is a little bit of a factor. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.160 I like from Joe said the doctors loved on him 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:52.440 a little bit. That's a little injection. That's a little 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.480 bit of relief right there. You get loved on a 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.280 little bit, so you're able to play freely. I do 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.320 think that as far as Joe run the football, it 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.959 was a bunch of guys, you know, the offensive line, 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.200 the receivers. They did a great job in the perimeter 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.880 of the tight ends, uh, sealing edges when they had to, 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.959 and you know, setting an edge. I think that it 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.600 was it was an upgrade in performance across the board 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:20.000 from a running game standpoint, because Joe has has had issues, 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.440 you know, make having to make his first cutting his 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.720 own backfield, you know, between the tackles, just outside the 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:31.320 tackles multiple places, so there've been breakdowns everywhere in the 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.960 receivers again, that's what makes a five yard run a 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.480 fifteen yard run, or makes a five yard run a 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.320 fift yard run and a touchdown, or like in Joe's case, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.800 when he busted outside bounced it. You know that was 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.760 supposed to be between the tackles run. Giovanni Bernard bounced 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.960 for eleven and then he bounced for thirty plus for 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.880 a touchdown. Tyler Boyd was great on both of those. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.960 And now you put the cornerback in a sweat because 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.800 he's you know, he wants to keep leverage and pinch 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.040 you if you're going between the tackles. Well, he was 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.400 going too far down inside to pinch him, way too 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.360 far inside, never set an edge, and Giovanni made him pay. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.360 Then Joe made him pay. So once you start getting 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.119 everybody doing what they're supposed to do and how they're 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.760 supposed to do it, it can look like that for sure. Plus, 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.520 I mean, you gave in all your choice, you gave 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.960 a little bit of a little bit of reason for everything. 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.880 Jacksonville's not up to snuff from what they've been going against. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:25.680 There's no question, absolutely no question. We will specifically get 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.120 to Alex Redman's impact in just a bit, but did 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.880 anything stand out about the offensive lines performance in general? 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.600 I think Jonah is getting better on a weekly basis, 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.839 and you know, he was lining up against the best 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.960 guy and Alan was not well. I mean, we weren't 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.640 talking about him, So when you're not talking about a guy, 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.560 he's being held in check. He had the most bogus 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.479 sack in history right when Joe got down at the 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.840 end of the game. The whole post game, I'm saying 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.600 it wasn't sacked at all, And then you look at 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.920 the stats and technically he lost about two inches when 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.240 Joe Burrow is trying to kill the quod right right. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:04.400 And you know, Joe, if Joe knew that was going 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.240 in the books as a sack, he would have made 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:07.880 sure even if he took a hit, he would have 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.839 made sure to gain another foot to make sure his 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.720 offensive line didn't get nicked with a sack because he 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.480 knows that they've been under the heat big time, and 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.720 he was obviously very proud of their performance and they 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.120 made his life a lot easier during the course of 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.800 that football game. I mean, Alan, Alan was responsible. He 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.120 was the guy on the twist. He came inside on 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.159 a super loop instead of just a tackle end twist 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.800 with a tackle penetrates the end loops. He looped all 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.400 the way inside to Trey Hopkins, and that was the 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.600 guy that Trey Hopkins held that took the Tyler Boyd 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.480 touchdown off the board. So he had an impact play there, 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:44.080 you know, by forcing a penalty and again got a 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.920 bogus sack, but on a snap by and Jonah had 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:48.800 nothing to do with that one. You know, he came 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.400 from the opposite side. Jonah went on that on that 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.440 particular play. So every time that he lined up I 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.480 think against Alan, I think it went pretty well for him. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.720 And and that's that was their best guy coming off 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.120 the end for sure. So I think his his graphs 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.719 going up. And he's that kind of guy, you know. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.120 I think he's not a guy that makes the same 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.000 mistake over and over and over again. He learns from 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.919 it and he compartmentalized it. And I think he's almost 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.880 got you know, he's got like a computer like mind. 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.880 He'll just click into that. I've been in this situation. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.200 Here's the tendencies here. My percentage of doing this is that, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.000 I mean he's got that uh, that computer like mind. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:26.880 I think that's really going to help him. He certainly 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.880 looked good late in the game, getting out as the 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.120 lead blocker on that one run around the left by 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.400 Joe Mixon and literally taking the cornerback that he was 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.200 blocking out of bounds. Yeah, chopped him down and you know, 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.200 took him off his feet and rolled him out of bounds. 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.360 It was like make that spare. You know, he knocked 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.440 that pinned out and took it all the way through 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:49.000 the gutter, you know, I mean, way to go. Yeah, exactly, exactly, Yeah, 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.839 he was. He was that. That showed his athleticism. I 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.320 mean he was. He was running with and really, Dan 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.360 and I've been there. You're out in space and you're 0:06:57.920 --> 0:06:59.720 an eighteen wheeler and you're trying to stay with a 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:01.960 fra a. It's got rack and pinion steering and it's 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.200 changed in directionally whoa, whoa, you know I can't change 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.760 and he's changed direction with him pretty well and uh 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:09.640 and really made it. Made a hell of a play 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.440 in space against a defensive back. I mean there, that's 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.480 what they're That's what impressed me when I when I 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:20.520 see Joe Burrow with unblocked free runner linebackers, unblocked free 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.240 runner cornerbacks on blitzes, and he does his little pirouette 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.360 and tight spin and spin away from these guys. Dude. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.480 Some athleticism, that's some short space ability, short space quickness, 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.320 some suddenness to him. And Jonah was very good in 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.520 short space, no doubt. On the other side of the ball, 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.280 the Bengals defense finally held an opponent under one hundred 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.960 rushing yards. Jacksonville had eighty nine in the game. It 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.920 obviously helps to have the lead and forced Jacksonville to 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.080 throw it down the stretch. But what did you think 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.000 of the run defense in particular? Yeah, I thought it 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:52.480 was better. Again, a forty yard run was nullified by penalty, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.640 you know, and that's that's helpful. That would that would 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.560 have changed the dynamic of it, you know, pretty extensively. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.760 And uh, you know Robinson's he's a he sold me 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.680 he's a legit that kids, that kid's a good football player. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.360 Instead of seventeen carries for seventy five yards, you would 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.560 have had eighteen for one fifteen, which is almost six 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.400 and a half you know a carry he ends up 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.680 at four point four, which looks good, looks better than 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.040 you know than it has. That's for sure, but I 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.480 do think they you know, they did a better job. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.920 They did a nice job with the mush rush of 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.480 controlling Minshew, you know, not getting yards. He does a 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.920 great job of finding a lane and abusing it and 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:28.640 getting yards up in the middle. He's more of a 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.120 between the tackles runner and when he scrambles rather than 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.840 he's not a real speed guy busted the outside, and 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.520 they did a good job of preventing, you know, some 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.920 of that because they've had their issues with quarterbacks, you know, 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.599 rushing for yardage against him. Of course their face and 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.880 the best of the NFL has to offer him this week. 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.040 For the year, through four games, which is a quarter 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.880 of the schedule, the Bengals are twenty seventh in the 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:56.000 NFL and rushing yards allowed sixteenth and passing yards allowed. 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.520 But I was looking at football outsiders because they have 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.880 that dvoacetistic which takes into account the quality of the 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.560 opposition and then the game situation. A five yard gain 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.080 on third and ten is not as bad from a 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.200 defensive perspective as a five yard gain on first and ten. Correct, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:16.600 So looking at that statistic, the Bengals defense actually checks 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.600 in at sixteenth in the NFL, according to Football Outsiders, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.840 right in the middle of the pack. Are we starting 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.600 to think that maybe the Bengals defense is closer to 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.720 the middle of the pack than the bottom of the pack, 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.680 You know, I do like I do like that they 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:37.040 try to give you criterion. Instead of just five yards, 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.760 there's five yard runs and then there's five yard runs. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.360 They're not all born the same and built the same, right, 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.520 and the quality of opposition is figured in as well, 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.679 And I like that, you know, I mean, look, look 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.960 what Cleveland's doing. Cleveland went for over three hundred against Dallas, 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.200 you know, all of a sudden, the two hundred yards 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.800 given up against Clean Right, it's not good, but hell 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.360 it's one hundred yards better than what Dallas did, you know. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.280 And they were supposed to win their division and be 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:03.760 a playoff contender and everything else. So that's that's my point. Dan, 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.720 this AFC North. If the Bengals had won the two 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.400 games they should have won, they lose to Cleveland, but 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.599 they'd be three and one, still be fourth in the 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.760 division because a tiebreaker with a division loss, but everyone 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.200 in the division would have three wins and nobody have 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.240 more than one loss. In Pittsburgh, wouldn't have lost yet 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.760 because they have a game that hasn't been played. But 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.680 I mean the AFC North and the Bengals have, you know, 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.600 two games against everybody. The AFC North is no joke. 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.600 Ten four and one unbelievable, unbelievable. Can the Bengals petition 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:36.400 the NFL to join the NFC East three twelve and 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.640 one as a division on Philadelphia with the same one 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.439 and two record one two and one record? Is the 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:45.000 Bengals currently alone in first with Washington and Dallas tied 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.520 for second at one and three and the Giants bringing 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.240 up the rear and four? Yeah, I mean the Bengals 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.480 would be in a virtual tie with the Eagles, both 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.480 with one two and one records the top the division 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:57.040 because they tied us a division rivalry game there if 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.800 they were in that division, That's that's sick. That just 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.720 tells you, you know, there's the penthouse and there's the outhouse, 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.280 and there's there's houses in between. And I don't know 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:10.800 how these you know, stats are going to be factored 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.640 by you know, how you incorporate a variable that that 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.520 says this team is exponentially better than that team or 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.440 not even necessarily the team. This defensive lineman is on 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.680 a crap team. But this defensive lineman is a Pro 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.560 Bowl guy, and this one guy, it's hard for anybody 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.800 to block this guy. So if you play against this guy, 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:33.520 your numbers aren't going to be as good as you 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.080 if you play against some schmo. You know, and I 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.360 don't know how they ever factor that in. To me, 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:43.120 there's nothing more true than looking at tape and trusting 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.400 your eyeballs. And guy's doing a pretty good job against 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:50.120 high caliber competition and more than handling his own against 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.200 guys he should. That's a good football player because that 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.839 guy that he's having just you know, a little bit 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.760 more difficult time with. That guy's a Pro bowler. He's 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.199 been there five times. There's a reason he's been there 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.360 five times. He's not doing it just against this guy, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.080 he does it against almost every guy. So that's why 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.600 those things, in my mind are so so tough to 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.079 so so off to buy into. I mean, I think 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.640 they're all great tools. And plus the other thing is 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:20.320 sometimes coaches, honestly, I mean it's like the scheme put 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.520 you in tough spot. How do you factor that in? 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.199 He didn't block that guy that way because he was 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.920 coached not too and you're taking points away from him, 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:32.160 you're giving him demerits because he didn't get that guy block. 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.280 That's what he's supposed to do. And the coach was like, 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.800 don't worry about that. Well, don't worry about it, but 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.560 pro football focused. And everybody's ripping my ass because you 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.600 know they're saying that I didn't get this done. So 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.520 it's hard. There are some variables that are still almost 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.880 impossible to factor into those equations. They really are. We 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.520 know the Bengals won't have Mike Daniels again this week. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.560 He's going to miss at least three games at the 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:58.120 elbow injury. Gino Atkins will see. He's doing a little 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.520 bit of individual stuff at practice, but it's still very 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:06.240 much a question mark. There are some veteran accomplished defensive 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:10.840 tackles out there, Marcel Darius, mister big stuffy snacks, Harrison, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:17.199 Oh yeah, Demata Peco. Normally I would say they won't 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.079 do it, though, wait a few weeks with the guys 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:21.960 that they have on the roster, and you know, hope 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.160 that Geno's playing soon and Mike Daniels is back in 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.880 three weeks, but as aggressive as they were this offseason, 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.640 and they obviously acted quickly to get Mike Daniels before 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.200 the season began. What do you think, do you think 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.640 that they might nibble at one of those veteran defensive linemen. 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.160 It all depends on how veteran they are. I think 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.199 if I think there's an age cut off, I think 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.199 if they feel like they bring in another veteran guy 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:46.320 who hasn't really been doing that much and it's vulnerable 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.160 to injury, that why take on another one? Yeah, slap 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:53.200 another one, you know, on injury reserve or keep on 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.880 the roster and hope he gets healthy. So I think 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:57.679 the one that makes the most sense to me is 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.080 Darius because he's not you know, he's the he's the 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.760 younger one, he's played the most recently, you know, recent football. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.400 That's the AJ Green Andy Dalton draft class right right. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.600 And he's not a kid obviously he's not a kid, 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.040 but I mean snacks and some of these I mean, 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.280 don't dematas up there. You know, he's he's been around. 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.160 So I think that's the that's the fear. I think 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.040 that a lot of teams in the league have not 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.960 bringing these guys in because you're bringing a guy that 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.080 hasn't hasn't been playing football, and again there's shape and 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.200 then there's football shape. And look at out. There's been 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.000 like three or four achilles tears. I mean, the achilles 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.480 tendon is the vulnerable thing after this coronavirus. It seems 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:41.160 like tight ends, defensive backs. I mean they've they've been 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.600 tearing achilles. The Bengals know all about it with CJ 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.000 and uh. Tampa Bay lost Howard two an achilles tear, 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.480 and I know there was a safety that I lost, 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:52.600 going to lose the season two an achilles tears. So 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.160 I think I think all of that is is part 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.160 of it. But um, it's going to be interesting to see, 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.880 you know, if they do decide to bring somebody in 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.040 like that, and you know what, Dan Geno Atkins and hindsight, 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.120 I R three weeks you could have put him on 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.440 IR and maybe done something else. Then obviously they didn't 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.720 think it was that serious. And now all of a sudden, 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.480 here it is a month plus and he's it's you know, 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.600 fifty fifty if he's going to be available this week? Man, 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.040 what is what really would have been better to just 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.200 have surgery or whatever? Would have taken to put him 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.240 and then slap him one ir and as many weeks 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.640 it took to give him back. I mean, hindsight's always 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.120 twenty twenty with this stuff. But obviously this thing was 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.440 more significant than what they initially thought. I think they 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.960 put him week to week like right away, and man, 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:36.760 it's been a lot of weeks, a lot of weeks. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.040 The Bengals had their fourth right guard in their first 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:43.440 four games. Last Sunday, Alex Redman getting his first start 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.280 of the year, and the Bengals passed for three hundred yards, 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.560 ran for two hundred and five yards, and only gave 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.240 up one sack. So how good was Alex Redman? Here 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.560 are Jonah Williams and Zach Taylor. Alix is a great player. 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.040 He's got a lot of He's got a lot of 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.440 violence and physicality. I think that's the first thing that 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.640 the coaches and his teammates ever knowses about him. As 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.320 you know, he wants to call off the ball and 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.040 just dominate people every play. And you know he did it. 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:08.320 He did a lot of that, and so it was 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.480 good to have him back. He fit in well, you know, 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.280 he had good, good chemistry there with Trey and with 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:17.040 Bobby and brought up physicality there and again, it wasn't perfect. 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:18.800 I think he'd be the first one to tell you that, 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.840 but there were some things that he did a nice 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.680 job of, and he was the first person to tell 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.760 us that. Immediately after the game last Sunday, Alex Redman said, 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.320 I didn't play all that well, but he played better 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.640 than Fred Johnson or Billy Price had been playing the 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.200 previous couple of weeks. He did Dan and the very 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.440 first looking looking back at the game, the very first 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:40.640 run play, wif I thought he was so geeked out. 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.320 I'm sure you know. Redman was like, I'm sure he 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.240 had all his weight for the defensive times, a little 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.520 old lay move, I mean he went whip. It was like, okay, 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.480 choke it down a little bit. Let's let's let's calm. 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.240 Let's calm this down. And then he started doing some 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.760 of the things that that Alex Redmand does. He when 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.320 I talk about finishing, it's like a lot of times 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.120 guys hit and stalemate and a lot of people just 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.440 stay in the stalemate. He will finish. He'll manipulate his hands, 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.760 he'll roll his hips, he'll do things to get a 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.399 second movement on a player and finish him, and he'll 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.680 pancake people, knock him right on their backside, you know, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.359 knock him over, throw him down, whatever the case may be. 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.679 That's where the you know, like the violence and the 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.320 physicality that that guys are talking about, and that's what 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.480 that's what he does. You know. He's a he's a 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.360 martial arts guy, you know, and he's a wrestler. So 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:30.679 every wrestle if played against me, and they would hunker down, knees, 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:32.399 over the ankles, hips, over the knees, and was like 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:36.000 a rooted tree. When Redmond kind of hunkers down, he's 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.080 all load. You know, he's got that part of it, 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:39.760 and he's got he's got the hands with the martial 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.080 arts stuff. I mean, he'll like, you know, kung full 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.160 you're in a heartbeat kind of thing with his hands. 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:49.199 He just has to physically, he's nfl. He has to 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.560 make sure that you know, he doesn't get overly geeked, 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.960 you know, and just staying composed. Control and again that 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.600 controlled rage, which I know every time I say it 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.720 sounds stupid, but it is what you have to try 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.760 to four and again, like we talked about Bobby Hart, 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:07.000 Trey Hopkins. They know everybody's a simon and every play, 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.280 not just theirs. So I think that was a big 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.200 comforting thing for Alex Redman if he had any questions 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:13.920 in the huddler at the line of scrim and she 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:15.960 just leaned over those guys in like you know, and 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.280 let me double check this. And that's that's big. And 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.080 as a result, and see any assimon I was in 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.399 there with him. You had the whiff like I talked about, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.600 but I didn't see him blocking wrong people. It didn't 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.639 look like to me. I think Bobby and you know, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.639 and training need to take a bow with that. The 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.439 Bengals signed Xavier Suefhila in the offseason to be the 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.560 right guard. He was coming back from a broken leg 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.320 last year and then he got hurt in Week one. 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.520 He will be back at some point this year. But 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:41.960 you know, Alex Redman's an interesting guy because he got 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.959 into the NFL at a really young age. He's in 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:50.080 his fourth year, he's only twenty five. Is a healthy 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:54.960 head straight. Alex Redman a better right guard than Xavier Suephila. 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.280 Do we know? Yeah? Do you think so? I think 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.040 for what. I Yeah, from what I've seen for when 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.400 I've seen a Xavier, and again it's just training camp, 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.919 I thought he played best in the scrimmage. But I 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.560 think I think Alex Redmond, if Alex Redman stays healthy 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.760 and you know, plays at his highest level, I think 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.399 his highest level might be higher than Xavier. Xavier Suefilo is. 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.800 He's got a lot of intangible leadership. He's unbelievable in 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.119 terms of all that you know, and that gives him, 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.600 that gives him some some some juice, you know, in 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.040 terms of what coaches think about. I mean with players 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.040 like that, you're looking for added value, and he gives 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.160 that added value and Alex hasn't given that added value 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.520 at this point in time. But based on just pure 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:38.320 physical abilities, I think Alex's upside is that much. Because 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.000 Xavier has been injured. He broke his leg, now he's 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:42.960 got an ankle injury. I mean, those are starting to 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.520 pile up. When you start, I don't care if the 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.960 house has a crack in the foundation, you know, like 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.879