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Speaker 1: is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tie SEC Preview

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Speaker 1: Not exactly, but not opposed to that either, Okay, not

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Speaker 1: opposed to that. We appreciate everybody's support out there. I

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Speaker 1: am ty he is Dan. This is the solid verbal.

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Speaker 1: This is part two of our ongoing SEC preview series,

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Speaker 1: really of our ongoing college football twenty twenty four preview series.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we've got both the ACC and the Big

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Speaker 1: Twelve in the books. We've got part one of the

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Speaker 1: SEC where we talked through our contender tiers. Also in

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Speaker 1: the books, you can go back and listen to that episode.

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Speaker 1: It's the last one out there on the feed today

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Speaker 1: that we're actually going to start talking about specific SEC teams,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to do so with a focus on

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Speaker 1: these eight Remember there are sixteen teams now in the SEC.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk today about Georgia and Texas, about

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Speaker 1: Ole miss and MISSOO, about Texas, A and M and Florida,

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Speaker 1: and about Mississippi State and Vanderbilt to close things out. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so for for you that you focused on, for for

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Speaker 1: me that I focused on a little bit more intently

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Speaker 1: about these teams and much much more. Hit follow hit

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Speaker 1: the rule. You know how it works by now, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely do so. On the last episode we talked

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Speaker 1: through our tiers, you and I both had Georgia and

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Speaker 1: Texas pretty high. I don't think that is unique as

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Speaker 1: at the top. But where it gets interesting is when

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Speaker 1: get to greater heights. Where do you think you'd like

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Speaker 2: I think we should start with Texas because they sort

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Speaker 2: with the new. And the new with Texas is they're here.

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Speaker 2: The new with Texas is that they've joined the SEC.

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Speaker 2: They have an SEC schedule, And with Texas and Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: don't know, divisionless football is a new thing, and Texas

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Speaker 1: Where should we start? That's danger the SEC. We need

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Speaker 2: They're in a great starting place there. What I really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in Texas it's in Austin.

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Speaker 2: Still, that's a horrific back to back for most teams.

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Speaker 2: Their run is looks like what Florida at Arkansas, Kentucky

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's going to be trickier as a

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Speaker 2: After in a body blow spot. I mean, the emotion

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Speaker 2: But you really can't look at Texas and say like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Well he kind of does, though he was in the

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Speaker 2: Yes he was. But I'm saying, with this roster, with

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think it says an awful lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but still the point stands, there's a lot walking

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Speaker 1: I would not bet on Texas going over ten and

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Speaker 1: It's because so much is changing. I like their talent.

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Speaker 2: No, and look, if we're talking about Texas as a

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Speaker 2: They can't Texas can't control how Kansas recruits, they can't

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Speaker 2: The question then is, like sark toe to toe as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I also think playing this type of

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Speaker 1: ways this team can beat you. Carson Beck was very

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Speaker 1: responsible with the football last season. We had a couple

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Speaker 1: instances a year ago where we were curious what Beck

435
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Speaker 1: would look like when they turned more of the offense

436
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Speaker 1: over to him. I remember, I want to say it

437
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Speaker 1: was either the Kentucky or the a Zuri game, especially

438
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Speaker 1: last season, or we talked about what is Carson Beck

439
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Speaker 1: gonna look like if they take away the running game.

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Speaker 1: He was superb more often than not. I have no

441
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Speaker 1: reason to expect otherwise this season. So for me, from

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Speaker 1: where I sit, Georgia is the most proven quantity in

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Speaker 1: this entire conference. Yes, the schedule is more difficult. No,

444
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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised to see them drop a game,

445
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Speaker 1: but they are still unequivocally my conference favorite and the

446
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Speaker 1: team that I've gotten coming out of the SEC.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they did play more competitive games last year

448
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Speaker 2: than they did did it the couple of years prior,

449
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Speaker 2: and it was what Georgia Tech. They were a little

450
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Speaker 2: bit careless late and that was somewhat of a game

451
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Speaker 2: Miszoo went toe to toe with them for a good

452
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Speaker 2: chunk of that game. They lose Tobama in the SEC

453
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Speaker 2: championship game, so slightly more human. If there's anything that

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Speaker 2: was a danger last year is you could run on

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Speaker 2: them a little bit and Auburn was creative with it,

456
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Speaker 2: like you could. You could get some plays moving the

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Speaker 2: ball on the ground against this Georgia team, and definitely

458
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Speaker 2: wasn't the case those couple of years prior. And no

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Speaker 2: more coach boom Ti, no must champ, no longer defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: All right, so you had Old Miss in your SEC

461
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Speaker 1: title game. Yes, Ole Miss has an over under of

462
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Speaker 1: nine and a half this year. They were eleven and two.

463
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Speaker 1: A year ago beat Penn State and the peach Ball

464
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Speaker 1: lost to Baman Georgia. And that was sort of my

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Speaker 1: hang up when we talked about ole Miss on the

466
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Speaker 1: last episode, that in those games in particular, they weren't

467
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Speaker 1: especially close. Is this the year for Old Miss because

468
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Speaker 1: they've got a ton back a huge hole in the

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Speaker 1: portal lane Kiffin, as I said last episode, not just

470
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Speaker 1: using the portal plug holes. He did do it for

471
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Speaker 1: those reasons, but he also did it to stack depth.

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Speaker 1: Got a lot of depth in some positions. That's more

473
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Speaker 1: of the case than others. But in this new era

474
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Speaker 1: of the sport now or I end up playing more games,

475
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Speaker 1: depth is kind of its own currency. I think Old

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Speaker 1: Miss is set up really really well there. Stansterresian could

477
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Speaker 1: get a boost from year number two under Pete Golding

478
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Speaker 1: running the defense. The schedule kind of beautiful. It seems

479
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Speaker 1: set up for at least nine wins in all likelihood,

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Speaker 1: maybe ten or more. I understand the optimism around Ole Miss,

481
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Speaker 1: but again I come back to is this the year

482
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Speaker 1: and what will change if so to make it that year?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I think the offensive line is going to

484
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Speaker 2: get better, which was a weak point last year. I

485
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Speaker 2: think Jackson Dart, I mean, he's dealt with some offseason procedures,

486
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Speaker 2: I believe, or treatment, whatever the word you want to

487
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Speaker 2: look for. He was beat up last year and maybe

488
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Speaker 2: that played a role, which, by the way, quick little

489
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Speaker 2: apology if you want to play the sounds the boot

490
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Speaker 2: boop ba doo. I feel like I was a little

491
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Speaker 2: bit unfair to Baron Morton, given that I didn't bring

492
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Speaker 2: up his ac joint injury last year, and as somebody

493
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Speaker 2: currently suffering from a much better injury than what I'm

494
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Speaker 2: sure Baron or was suffering from my sympathies and hopefully

495
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Speaker 2: he's back. And I was more aware of it looking

496
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Speaker 2: at Jackson Dart, who was beat up all of last

497
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Speaker 2: year and gutted through a bunch of these games, but

498
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Speaker 2: ole miss in their wins. They weren't running away from

499
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Speaker 2: a lot of teams. And when I'm looking for like

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Speaker 2: that next step, I'm looking for more comfortable wins against

501
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Speaker 2: quality teams. And I think it is a skill to

502
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Speaker 2: win and win those close games, beat against Auburn or Texas,

503
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Speaker 2: a and ever or whatever. But these are, you know,

504
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Speaker 2: the final year of Jimbo and an interim situation. It's

505
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Speaker 2: year one of Hugh Freeze, and like I don't know,

506
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Speaker 2: I feel like ole Miss should be further along if

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Speaker 2: we're going to consider them a true contender. And you're

508
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Speaker 2: absolutely right to bring up not being competitive at all

509
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Speaker 2: against Alabama those final three quarters, and certainly the whole

510
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Speaker 2: game against Georgia, but ole Miss being as proactive as

511
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Speaker 2: they have been in the portal stacking receiving talent, which

512
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Speaker 2: I think will only make them more dangerous. And I

513
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Speaker 2: still think they're going to be dangerous on the ground.

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Speaker 2: With out Quinn Shawn Judkins, we'll see along the offensive

515
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Speaker 2: line they went. I think they got two of Washington's

516
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Speaker 2: offensive linemen from last year inside, so hopefully that helps

517
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Speaker 2: that that was the line that won the Joe More Award.

518
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Speaker 2: And I think Jackson Dart is the big question to

519
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Speaker 2: me if he is clearly better and I thought he

520
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Speaker 2: was good, I thought it was really good last year,

521
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Speaker 2: but if he has taken that next step to where

522
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Speaker 2: he given these receivers given what the position this defense

523
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Speaker 2: should put them in, given their schedule, like Jackson Dart

524
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Speaker 2: should be at least I don't fringe all SEC quarterback

525
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Speaker 2: fringe Heisman, you know, given Lane Kiffin's success on offense,

526
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a crazy thing to say given

527
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Speaker 2: his experience, you know, on this roster in college football

528
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Speaker 2: and coming back. So I like ole Miss a lot,

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Speaker 2: I really really do. I think the firepowers there. I

530
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Speaker 2: think they're gonna get after the quarterback better. I like

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Speaker 2: the portal moves they made on defense. Walter Nolan is

532
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Speaker 2: that big, big move in the middle where he should

533
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Speaker 2: be a lot more disruptive against the run, which ole

534
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Speaker 2: Miss can definitely stand to be more disruptive against the run.

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Speaker 2: I think it's great. I think the big danger they

536
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Speaker 2: pose is just like so much speed everywhere on this offense,

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Speaker 2: and the danger to themselves is protecting Jackson Dart and

538
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Speaker 2: perhaps playing down to teams at times. Because I think

539
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Speaker 2: the defense is going to still get better. I think

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Speaker 2: there's still a ton of room to improve, and I

541
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Speaker 2: think they've addressed enough there that they will. It's to

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Speaker 2: me and what, Princely, I want to hear you say it?

543
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Speaker 2: Can you try and say it? Uman Lian Uman Mealen,

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Speaker 2: Uman Mealen There, Princely Uman Mealen, Uman Mealen.

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Speaker 1: What's really cool about the Florida or his entry on

546
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Speaker 1: the Florida team website And they're starting to do more

547
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Speaker 1: of this, which I think is a good thing, especially

548
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Speaker 1: for idiots like me. You can actually play a voice file,

549
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Speaker 1: a sound file of that player. Oh, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: That's really pronouncing their own name. You know, it's legit.

551
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I haven't even mentioned Juice Wells, by the way,

552
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: the embarrassment of riches on offense transferring in from South Carolina.

553
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Speaker 2: So schedule wise, look, Ole Miss has Georgia and then

554
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Speaker 2: a bye and then they're at Florida. That's a if

555
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Speaker 2: you're going to play both of those teams, and you know,

556
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Speaker 2: playing the Swamp is always difficult in its own way,

557
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Speaker 2: that's a good way to do it. H Kentucky at

558
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Speaker 2: South Carolina, which again I'm not looking past at LSU

559
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Speaker 2: certainly not looking past with some of Ole Miss's recent

560
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Speaker 2: defensive issues. And then they get a buye before Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: It's not an amazing schedule, but all things considered, missing

562
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Speaker 2: the teams that they miss, I think it's pretty great.

563
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Speaker 2: Considering their experience, consider considering their depth at this moment,

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Speaker 2: I think they're in a great position.

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Speaker 1: Do you think if Jackson Dark gets drafted into the NFL,

566
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Speaker 1: he'll still do the Anakin Skywalker I black things. I

567
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Speaker 1: should hope. So yeah, I feel like that's kind of

568
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Speaker 1: his brand at this point. Yeah, Look, if the defense improves,

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Speaker 1: the defense takes a jump forward. In year two, hunderd

570
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Speaker 1: peak colding.

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Speaker 2: I mean, weren't bad. This was like a top forty

572
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Speaker 2: hours defense.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, they weren't bad at all. But it

574
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Speaker 1: is still the thing that I think comes up most

575
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Speaker 1: frequently and you talk to people about old miss and

576
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Speaker 1: how they feel or don't feel. Yeah, if the defense

577
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Speaker 1: takes a step four under peak Golding in year two,

578
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Speaker 1: watch out, the.

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Speaker 2: Pass rush was pretty good. They weren't terrible at anything.

580
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Speaker 2: If they can get excellent at something right, stuffing everybody

581
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Speaker 2: on the ground, getting after the quarterback, erasing things, and

582
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Speaker 2: getting back to like a land shark look which look,

583
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Speaker 2: they're very active. I mentioned offensive line, very active in

584
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Speaker 2: the portal at dB as well. Then that's when they

585
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Speaker 2: become truly a dangerous program. If they can do something

586
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Speaker 2: excellently on defense, which is I think what's been holding

587
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Speaker 2: them back. They haven't had that thing.

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Speaker 1: So we'll say you mentioned the Florida Gators. Yeah, I

589
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Speaker 1: spent two and a half hours studying the Florida Gators.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Four and a half is the over

591
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Speaker 1: under five and seven. Last season missed a Bowl for

592
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Speaker 1: the first time since twenty seventeen. It's no wonder Billy

593
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Speaker 1: Napiers on the hot seat coming into this this year,

594
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Speaker 1: and man, that four and a half line, it's just

595
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Speaker 1: shockingly low for a successful, a historically successful program like

596
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Speaker 1: this to see that number, even for people like you

597
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Speaker 1: and me who do this all the time and we're

598
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Speaker 1: always on the lookout for news and we understand trajectories

599
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Speaker 1: of programs and what it at number knocked me back.

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Speaker 2: It really maybe it's just a sucker bet type number,

601
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Speaker 2: right that you're just trying to.

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Speaker 1: Loll coople in. It could be we know that over

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Speaker 1: unders are greatly influenced by schedules. Oklahoma, who we're going

604
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Speaker 1: to talk about next episodes another really good example of that.

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Speaker 1: A team that might be better, but who's win loss

606
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Speaker 1: record could be worse. That's why they're a seven and

607
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Speaker 1: a half. Florida is projected to have the toughest schedule

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Speaker 1: in America, and for that reason alone, it looks pretty

609
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Speaker 1: beak for Billy Napier making it through this season. The irony, though,

610
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Speaker 1: is that when you look at Florida in a vacuum

611
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Speaker 1: separate from the schedule. They've got the hall of a

612
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Speaker 1: team that take a step forward almost everywhere. Okay, just

613
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Speaker 1: a question of whether or not their strides that they

614
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Speaker 1: take forward are offset by like a I don't know,

615
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Speaker 1: four and eight or five and seven records might not

616
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Speaker 1: be able to see it because of the schedule.

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Speaker 2: That number could also be that number every year we

618
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Speaker 2: see it in major conferences, minor conferences, whatever, that like,

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Speaker 2: it starts out poorly, somebody gets rid of a coach,

620
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Speaker 2: or even they don't get rid of the coach, and

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Speaker 2: just the wheels fall off.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of wheels falling off potential because

623
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Speaker 1: of the schedule. I talked about that UCF game in

624
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Speaker 1: what is it, Week four or five pretty early in

625
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Speaker 1: the season. That to me could be one of those games.

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Speaker 1: But that aside, I came out of by Florida study

627
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Speaker 1: feeling somewhat optimistic about where the team is headed, at

628
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Speaker 1: least directionally. Okay. For one, they were super young last season,

629
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Speaker 1: and they got a lot from their freshmen. You know,

630
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Speaker 1: the saying freshmen becomes sophomores. Another year in the system

631
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Speaker 1: I think should help raise the floor for the Gators.

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Speaker 1: I also think Flarida will be pretty dangerous on offense,

633
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Speaker 1: at least more dangerous on offense. For all the eye

634
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Speaker 1: rolling that we did that I did, especially about Graham

635
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Speaker 1: Mertz a year ago, he was really good. Yeah, just

636
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Speaker 1: three interceptions, completed seventy three percent of his passes and

637
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Speaker 1: that's the Spider line that gave up a sack one

638
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Speaker 1: out of every ten dropbacks, which is crazy and was

639
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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteenth in the nation. So looking back,

640
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Speaker 1: say what you want about Billion Napier. Absolutely a good

641
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Speaker 1: move to bring in Graham Mertz and give him the keys.

642
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Speaker 1: So now he's back. Graham Mertz is back. You add

643
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Speaker 1: in DJ Lagway. They're big time recruit into the quarterback room.

644
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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see him a bit this year. I would

645
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Speaker 1: expect we would. He does not have the pressure of

646
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Speaker 1: having to be the true freshman going through this gauntlet

647
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Speaker 1: of a schedule, trying to resurrect the program. Try and

648
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Speaker 1: keep Billi Napier employed by the university. I think that's

649
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: a good situation for him. Can use him in spots.

650
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: Great Trevor etn transfers out, but Montreal Johnson, who actually

651
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: led the team in rushing good. He's back. The receiver

652
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: room is stacked. This was not an explosive offense last season.

653
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: That's an obvious area where I think they need to improve.

654
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: They've said as much, but my sense is that barring

655
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Speaker 1: injury or any kind of unforeseen circumstances, this is the

656
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Speaker 1: top twenty top twenty five caliber offense, they should be

657
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Speaker 1: pretty good, Dan, I assume so. Yeah.

658
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean they were right around They were between forty

659
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: and fifty last year, returning what they returned. I don't

660
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Speaker 2: think that's a crazy thing to say.

661
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

662
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: I mean, if the offensive line is better, then yeah,

663
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: they weren't great.

664
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Speaker 1: They got to get the line sorted out right. If

665
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: they're dangerous for all the reasons I described, they're in

666
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: danger because the line it's just too leaky. Yeah, the

667
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: line stats from last season were lousy. They're very bad

668
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: in pass protection. Better in the game, But the line,

669
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: first and foremost is central to what Billy Napier wants

670
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: to build. He is on the record saying as much

671
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: he wants to play the physical running game, wants that

672
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: to be the main thing, and it like kind of

673
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: has been. You could see maybe that he's trying to

674
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: make it so, but the line just has not been there.

675
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: I think it'll be better this year. I think it

676
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: helps to be better this year. But if they're in

677
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: danger at least at this point as we record this

678
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: in late July early August, that's why. That's the main

679
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: reason all that being said. Okay, I am burying the

680
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: lead a big time way. Florida is in danger if

681
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: it cannot figure out this damn defense. It's been the

682
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: running joke for how many years? Two years now? Yep.

683
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: This was a bad defense headed into last season, those

684
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: bad defense. Coming out of last season, Billy Napier went

685
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: with like a near full line change on the coaching staff.

686
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: Kept Austin Armstrong, but added Ron Roberts, who I think

687
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: previously was Armstrong's mentor. So there are two guys to

688
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: know the same system right along the line. We've already

689
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: talked about losing guys like Prince Lee Uman Mile said

690
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: it the wrong way, Umane Uman Mealen, excuse me Aleen, Yeah,

691
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: lose him in the portal to olbyss. But they also

692
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: did some good work in the portal. They plugged some holes.

693
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: Cormani MacLean, former five star, comes down from Colorado we'll see,

694
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: we'll see, We'll see. Joey Slackman, my token transfer from

695
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: a small Ivy League school. I'm overly excited to see

696
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: comes in from Penn. L. J. McCrae, big time get

697
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: in the recruiting. Gable on the defensive line was like

698
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: the top rated defensive lineman in the country. Jamar Jane

699
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: is still back at linebacker. It does not feel like

700
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: a talent thing, Dan Rubinstein. The talent is there, talent's there.

701
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: If they can't get the talent organized enough to get

702
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 1: better on defense, that's on them.

703
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: I think the talent's there to like compete for the ACC.

704
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: I just think you look at their opponents and how

705
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: their opponents recruit, and how their opponents are stacking depth

706
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: on defense and finding more than just you know, a

707
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: game changing receiver like That's the difference to me is

708
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: that there are pieces, but not a grouping, not a palette.

709
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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about winning the conference, no, I know,

710
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm talking about getting a damn bowl game game.

711
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: I know, I hear you. Even talent is there for that.

712
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Speaker 1: This is a brutal schedule anyway you want to measure this.

713
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: It is a brutal schedule, but the talent is on

714
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: this team to go to a bowl, and if they don't,

715
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: and if it collapses, this is on the coaching staff.

716
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: It would be the right move to get billion Apier.

717
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: It probably would have been the right move last year

718
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: to get rid of billion Apier. But the game of

719
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: another bite at the apple here and the talent there.

720
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Speaker 1: So if it does not come to fruition, if they

721
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: do not take some stride forward, it's on him. Even

722
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: against the brutals kin, I agree. The schedule, by the way,

723
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: is a joke. I mean, walk me through it. First

724
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: three games are home against Miami, against Samford, against Texas

725
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: A and m Next week on the road at Mississippi State.

726
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: That should be a win. I hope that's a win

727
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: before a bye week. Then comes that home game against UCF,

728
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: which is a week before the Tennessee matchup. And I

729
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: could see that UCF game being very consequentially.

730
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: kJ Jefferson beat him last year, right.

731
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: KJ Jefferson beat him last year. It's a UCF team

732
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: that could be dangerous for many of the reasons we

733
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Speaker 1: described in our Big twelve preview episodes. I would not

734
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Speaker 1: look past that game and I would not count that

735
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: as a gimme. But then you're like, you know, at

736
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee home against Kentucky, neutral site against Georgia, at Texas

737
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: home against LSU, these are all in a row by

738
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: the way home versus All miss and then they go

739
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: out the year at Florida State. You got to be

740
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: kidding me. They've got Georgia and Texas on back to

741
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: back weeks. Their November is a car crash. This schedule

742
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: is brutal.

743
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: Okay, can I ask you this if I'm going to

744
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: tell you that I am a time traveler, I've come

745
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: back from December, which is when you always say that

746
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: we'll know more by and I tell you know what,

747
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you what Florida's record is.

748
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you how they did in

749
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: these games, but I'm going to tell you this, they

750
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: were legit pretty good this year.

751
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: What is to you?

752
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Record wise? Like, if Florida is

753
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 2: legit pretty good, they could start out the season five

754
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: and zero. Right, these are beautifully blue and orange colored

755
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: Florida Gator glasses. I'm now putting on sure, right, if

756
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: they're legit pretty good, that they're not careless with the ball,

757
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: that Trey Wilson has big games, that the defense comes

758
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 2: together a little bit more, and they're fine, They're not amazing.

759
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 2: They can beat Miami at home, Samford, Texas A and

760
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: m at home. They can go on the road and

761
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: beat a New Mississippi State, and they can beat UCF

762
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 2: at home. No, it gets trickier from there. So let's

763
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 2: say they lose to Tennessee, they lose at home to Kentucky,

764
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: and they lose to Georgia. They're five and three. They

765
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: lose to Texas, but beat LSU, so that's six and four,

766
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: beat Ole miss seven and four, and then beat a

767
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: struggling Florida State team who has taken a step back

768
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 2: on offense and finish.

769
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: Eight and five. I answer your question, I think quote

770
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: unquote legit good Florida against this schedule relative to their

771
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: talent on hand, because legit good Florida still isn't going

772
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: to go ten and two against this.

773
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: Right, Let's I'm saying, I think they're fully captive eight

774
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: and four.

775
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: Either're fully captid eight and four, seven and five, okay,

776
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: and that would take a huge step forward. By that,

777
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: I'd be a huge step forward. I do think you

778
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: have to look at this within context, because if they

779
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: go seven to five or eight and four against this,

780
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: that represents a major strive forward, and that would be

781
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: a big deal for Billy Napier. I don't think they

782
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: could fire them if you win seven to five, eight

783
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: and four against this, because that would represent so much

784
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: of a positive step forward. I don't think they could

785
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: do it now. I think he should get a raise

786
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: at six and six. You can make that case. Where

787
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: you can make that case, there's a whole separate conversation

788
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: about whether the powers that be at Florida still feel

789
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: invested in Billi Napier, and so I'm curious to see

790
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: what happens if they encounter some headwinds through the first

791
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: five six weeks of this season, because that UCF game

792
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: looms pretty damn large.

793
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: Okay, we're going A and M.

794
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go A and M. Actually, uh, seven to six.

795
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: Last year they got rid of Jimbo. They lost to

796
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State in the bowl game. I looked at A

797
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: and M. You looked at them in more and more

798
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: detail than me, But I looked at them and I said,

799
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 1: is it just beer? Should they be pretty good this year?

800
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: You know? Like, what is the range of Texas A

801
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: and M outcomes this season?

802
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: So I think you start with the fact that I

803
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: I think we agree that they're getting a coaching upgrade,

804
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: an in game coaching upgrade, a vision upgrade, a coach

805
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 2: who is willing to adjust, a coach who is willing

806
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: to take in more ideas. And I think there is

807
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: reason to be confident that Mikelcho, especially given his experiences

808
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: both the head coach and as a major coach at

809
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: Texas A and M, that they will lose fewer winnable

810
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: games than the Jimbo Fisher Texas A and M.

811
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Speaker 1: I'd agree with that.

812
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's very difficult for me to see, even

813
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: with what I think is a pretty difficult schedule, considering

814
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: they start with Notre Dame, it's very difficult for me

815
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 2: to see this A and M team not making a Bowl,

816
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: Like I don't think they have a loss to app

817
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 2: State in them, Like I just I think they're going

818
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 2: to be a better run program and they're just going

819
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 2: to win what they should win inside of a game,

820
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: not how we like look at a team. So floor

821
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 2: and ceiling I have as six and six floor, nine

822
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: and three ceiling.

823
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: I wrote down the exact same the exact same thing.

824
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: For Yeah Buddy Digital high five for Texas A and M.

825
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's still a lot of talent on hand

826
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: even after they lost so much in the portal thirty

827
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: one guys. I think it speaks to the draw of

828
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: Mike Elko and that vision that they were able to

829
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: bring a lot of talent back in to kind of backfill,

830
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: and how the roster in a pretty good spot. It

831
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: does not feel like they are starting over from a

832
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: talent standpoint, may maybe philosophically so.

833
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: And I think depth wise they are depth.

834
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: Wise Okay, yeah, they were hit a little bit on depth,

835
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: but generally speaking from a talent standpoint, still really talented.

836
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: There's obvious investment in this program. And Elko has been

837
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: a guy who's been very very good coaching up defense,

838
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: but has proven in his short time as a head

839
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: coach that he knows how to get more out of less.

840
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: So you put a guy like that in a situation

841
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: like A and M that over under eight and a

842
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: half makes a little bit more sense. The range of outcomes, though,

843
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: I like that won't come into more focus until we

844
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: have health answers about Connor Wegman until we see this

845
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: team out there.

846
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 2: Oh that's the whole thing. Yeah, even like Jalen Henderson

847
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: was fine last year given the weird situation he entered

848
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 2: into with you know, Connor Wagman going down to Max

849
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: Johnson going down, Jalen Henderson looking like a more viable weapon. Look,

850
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: the offensive line has been an issue. They've retooled it,

851
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 2: They've brought in transfers. They lose, you know, a couple

852
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: of gigantic literally gigantic defensive lineman Walter Nolan elt Overton.

853
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, they just bring back enough and enough

854
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: promise that given Mike Elko as a defensive guy again

855
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: we'll get to Ja Bateman in a second. That talent wise,

856
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: they're in a good place. Superstars, we'll see losing Evan

857
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: Stewart on offense. I still think there's enough dudes at

858
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: receiver that excite me. There's enough youth, you know, Muse

859
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: Muhammad steps into a bigger role there. Ruben Owens, I

860
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: really like, is a big running back. Think that could

861
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 2: be you know, a nice battering ram in the way

862
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 2: that you know, Duke has had success on the ground

863
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 2: and Kansas State has had success on the ground under

864
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: Colin Klin, new offensive coordinator. I think it's gonna be

865
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: a balance offense. It's Connor Wegman health. I just hope

866
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: he's lucky right at a certain point, he's just been unlucky.

867
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's you know, frail and made

868
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 2: of glass. I don't think that's the case. I think

869
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: he is just you know, some guys are just snake bitten,

870
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 2: and you have to approach that as a concern given

871
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: his injury history. But if he can stay healthy, I

872
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: think so much of what A and M has been

873
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: through these last couple of years has been self inflicted.

874
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: That literally just eliminating. That is the difference between you know,

875
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: losing to Auburn and beating Auburn, losing Ole Miss and

876
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: beating Ole Miss losing to I guess it was Old

877
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 2: Miss last year, the shootout game that they'll just win more.

878
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: And so I like too much of this team's potential

879
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: to be down on the fact that they had thirty

880
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: one transfers. They bring in twenty eight transfers. You know,

881
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: des Rick's you know at corner and coming in. Cooper's gone,

882
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: but even still linebackers in a good spot like, I

883
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: don't know. My thing that is a danger right now

884
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: is aside from you know, Connor Wegman health, I think

885
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: Jay Bateman might have a little bit of like Ted Roof,

886
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: like bring him in early, let him take the lumps

887
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: when it doesn't go well on defense, you know, early

888
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: for a defensive head coach. But it's really kind of

889
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: the defensive head coach's defense. Like he wasn't good at

890
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: North Carolina, he wasn't mostly not good at Army, like

891
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, I felt like at Texas A and M,

892
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: when you have the resources to bring in a big

893
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: name coordinator or somebody from a big name defense or

894
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: something like that that was a contributing coach, like you

895
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: do it. And I'm not sure I get this. Maybe

896
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: I'm wrong about Jay Bateman, but his track record suggests

897
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: that he's either been crazy unlucky or has not. And

898
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: he was an Army by the way, when they were

899
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: running an option, and it's one of the most advantaged

900
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: places to call a defense because your defense generally gets

901
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: a ton of rest if you have a successful offense.

902
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that one gave me.

903
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: You know, pet chair aready caused for pause there but

904
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: from a talent perspective, it's still depth. In this moment,

905
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: I think he's going to recruit crazy well, and he's

906
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: already started recruiting.

907
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: He's already started recruit. Can I can I pause you

908
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: and ask you a question? Please? Do A and M

909
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: hosts Notre Dame in week one? Yeah, it's the marquee

910
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: matchup of week one. Yeah, we haven't done a Notre

911
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: Dame preview yet. Obviously I'm going to be a little

912
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: bit more plugged in on the Notre Dame side than you,

913
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: and that's fine. I don't blame you. Who would you

914
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: pick in that matchup?

915
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: Is there a spread or do you want me to

916
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: just I think A.

917
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: And M's favored by about too, but for our purposes here,

918
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: just consider it.

919
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: Even I'd probably lean in this moment A and M

920
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: because it's at home in a pretty difficult place to play,

921
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: because what they'll look like is going to be more mysterious.

922
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: Now.

923
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 2: Notre Dame has their own mystery mystery on offense, given

924
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: new coordinator, new old coordinator and Riley Leonard who is

925
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: coming off of injury, and michaelco is very familiar with

926
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: I think I like the current A and M offensive

927
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: pop upside more than Notre Dames, and considering it's at home,

928
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: considering the mysterious miss, considering Marcus Freeman in big games

929
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: against good teams, I think Mike Elcho is a better

930
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: head coach to Marcus Freeman. That's not a take, right, No,

931
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: I'll give the edge without fully diving into matchups to

932
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: A and M.

933
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: In this moment. It's a fascinating matchup. Yeah, and I

934
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: understand why. I understand why the point spread is where

935
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: it is. And this is not a Notre Dame preview.

936
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: Obviously we're talking about A and M and a bunch

937
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: of it can't be it's our show, No, But I

938
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: think for both teams, the significance of that game cannot

939
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: be overstated. Yeah, it's gonna be great. If you're A

940
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: and M. You win that game at home against the

941
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: top ten team, Suddenly expectations are dramatically different. Suddenly that

942
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: eight and a half over under looks very attainable. At

943
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: nine to three kind of plateau looks a little bit

944
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: more attainable because you're beating a team of that caliber

945
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: at home. Notre Dame factors to be the playoff contender

946
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: this year. Even if they lose that A and M game.

947
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: And on the Notre Dame side, obviously, if you go

948
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: on the road place like College Station, that will be

949
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: a milestone for somebody like Marcus Freeman to get the

950
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: monkey off his back when a big game like that

951
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: on the road against the team that we I think

952
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: will be we believe will be nationally ranked by the

953
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: end of the season.

954
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, their schedule as such that there's no obvious killer

955
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: back to back on this schedule, there's difficulties. And you know,

956
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: how good is South Carolina. Well, if they're actually like,

957
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: we'll get there. But if Leonora Sellers is really good,

958
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: then LSU South Carolina consecutive weeks could be very difficult.

959
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: Right If the Auburn offense gets better, traveling to Auburn

960
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: before hosting Texas could be very difficult. But as it

961
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: stands now Texas A and M has no Georgia, Tennessee,

962
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: Ole Miss and no Oklahoma for whatever you believe in Oklahoma.

963
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: But like you also kind of have to look at

964
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: it through the lens of like, well, who might be beatable

965
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: in terms of the good teams. So schedule is pretty

966
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: good and there's a lot of I'll use the word again.

967
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: There's a lot of buttressing tie or a lot of.

968
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: What's the word.

969
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm like buffering, not buttressing. Buffering. Right, there's a buffer

970
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 2: zone between Florida and the rest of the SEC schedule.

971
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: In Bowling Green, there's Arkansas, MISSOO Mississippi State. It's not

972
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: terrible Mississippi State before LSU, which is now no longer

973
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: the rivalry game because Texas A and M is Texas

974
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: obviously South Carolina LSU. We'll see the new Mexico State,

975
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: which I guess beware, but this is not Jerry Kill

976
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: Diego Pavia and Auburn Texas. We think Auburn is going

977
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: to be pretty good, but it's not Georgia Texas. It's

978
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: not Bama Texas, so.

979
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: I don't know.

980
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: It's Nobama too right for A and M Yeah, no,

981
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 2: no Obama.

982
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

983
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: All things considered, it's been a pretty good off season

984
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: for Mike Elco.

985
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Missouri Tigers. Let's nine and a

986
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: half over under eleven and two. A year ago, they

987
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: beat Ohio State fourteen to three in the low scoring

988
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl. Yes, big deal. Last year. One of the

989
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: stories of the year. I am extremely high on Missouri

990
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: with some qualifiers okay that I can get into here,

991
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: but a lot back. Seventeenth nationally returning productions the easiest

992
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: schedule in the SEC. As I said on Part one,

993
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: the thirty seventh most difficult schedule in the country is

994
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: not the easiest schedule by any stretch. They should be

995
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: favored in ten or eleven of their games. A great

996
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: my dilemma with Miszoo is whether this is a better

997
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: team or TV show. Okay, what do I mean by that?

998
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: All right? The Luther Burden experience, Well, they're dangerous basically

999
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: because the entire offense is back, with a notable exception

1000
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: of Cody Schrader, the run back, and I think one

1001
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: guy along the offensive line. That's it. Everybody who caught

1002
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: a pass last season is back, including Luther Burden. Brady Cook,

1003
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: who had a renaissance here last year. He is back.

1004
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: Either Nate Knowle or Marcus Carroll, two guys that they

1005
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: got from the group of five from app State in

1006
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: Georgia State, respectively. One of those guys figures to be

1007
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: the straighter replacement. I don't have many questions about the offense.

1008
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: Dan They scored thirty two points a game last year.

1009
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: There's a good chance for pushing thirty five this season.

1010
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: It should be one of the best ten offenses in

1011
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: the nation, full stop. My questions are about the defense.

1012
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot of turnover on defense, and I think

1013
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: it's worrying right, not the least of which is Blake Baker,

1014
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: the aforementioned prized, perhaps overpaid coordinator for how we'll see now, Yeah,

1015
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: we will see, we will see. But they lose him.

1016
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: They lose three solid defensive backs, their best linebacker, their

1017
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: best edge rusher, and three of their four intier defensive

1018
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: line There is a lot of turnover here, and even

1019
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: though I think Eli Drinkwitz did a really good job

1020
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: bringing in new talent via the portal and otherwise, I

1021
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: just worry that it might be too much for them

1022
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: to absorb. Okay, you know, like best case scenario. Best

1023
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: case scenario, it pops in MISSOO is legit top ten

1024
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: team most of the year. Worst case scenario, they're a

1025
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: fun half team that plays in some shootouts and makes

1026
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: for good TV. Are they a TV show? Are they

1027
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: a team? Right? So the defense is really the only

1028
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: reason I'm not jumping on the over here because I

1029
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: like Missoo a lot, and like I said before, the schedule,

1030
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: the schedule's great. The games that loom the largest are

1031
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: at Texas A and M and at Alabama they're home

1032
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: against Oklahoma. They play sub teams. It's not like a

1033
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: cakewalk or anything, right, But if you believe that Miszoo

1034
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: can win just one of those three games, then you

1035
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: bet the over man, you bet the over. You hope

1036
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: there are in any other hiccups all on the way.

1037
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think all of that is right. I also

1038
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 2: sort of think that in this sport we've seen enough

1039
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 2: that like success begets success that like sure there is momentum.

1040
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes coaches are not good enough to take

1041
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: advantage whatever. I think Eli Drinkwitz has proven, especially with

1042
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: how he has sort of galvanized the money at Missoo, right,

1043
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 2: that they're competitive on the recruiting trail, they're competitive. They

1044
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: get like the most promising Oklahoma offensive lineman, right, Caden

1045
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: Green comes in steps in to sort of bolster things,

1046
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: and I think he's relatively local too Miszoo. But you're

1047
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: right about concerns about the defense and new coordinator losing

1048
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: key pieces. All of that is true. I think they're

1049
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 2: so advantaged on offense, and they're well coached enough, and

1050
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: I just have this sense that Miszoo, given their schedule,

1051
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: given their offense, is even if they're not as good

1052
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: as their final schedule indicates, their final record indicates, their

1053
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: final record is gonna be really good.

1054
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: I think they'll be good. I think they'll be a

1055
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: good team. And and and to the previous point of

1056
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: what are like the range of outcomes from Zoo, the

1057
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: range of outcomes are pretty good. And they're they're definitely

1058
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: skewing higher than they wear Texas A and m. This

1059
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: is a good team. It's a great offense. They're going

1060
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: to score like crazy. And the only reason I can't

1061
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: get fully into Mazoo and go even more aggressive on

1062
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: my Miszoo takes is because of that defense. Okay, and

1063
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: even that Dan even that, depending where you look and

1064
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: who you read, people have varying opinions about how much

1065
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: they actually lose, how much it will affect them versus

1066
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: won't affect them, if anything, That's the thing that everyone's

1067
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: pointed at. But even still there is disagreement over how

1068
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: much of an issue that's going to be for this team.

1069
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: This season, so you know, But otherwise on the schedule,

1070
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: like I mentioned those three big games A and M, Alabama, Oklahoma,

1071
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: beyond that, Murray State, Buffalo, Boston College, and Vandy all

1072
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: at home before a bye. Right also at UMass home

1073
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: against Auburn, at South Carolina, at Mississippi State home against Arkansas.

1074
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: They drew the correct straw to try and make a

1075
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: run at this thing. This is easy by comparison, still

1076
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: an SEC schedule, but easy, way easier than their peers

1077
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: by comparison. We just got to see on the defense.

1078
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: I mean, my only question in this moment is I

1079
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 2: think you're absolutely right. Who are the quarterbacks that are

1080
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: good enough or at least that appear to be good

1081
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: enough in this moment on this schedule, Like it's at

1082
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: A and M. So, it's at Connor Weigman, who I

1083
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: think is pretty good. It's at Jaln Milroe in Alabama.

1084
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: I think he's a good quarterback. We'll see on Lenora Sellers,

1085
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: We'll see on Jackson Arnold, We'll see on Blake Shaping

1086
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 2: and Jeff Levi's offense. We'll see Hayling Green and Bobby

1087
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: Patrino's off.

1088
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: Miss Castillanos the big guy, right, you're huge.

1089
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: I seven foot four, four hundred and eighteen pound Thomas Castillanos.

1090
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: He grew a foot since we did the BC preview.

1091
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I Diego Pavia could be very challenging. And

1092
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: other Tim Beck offense not v Tim back, other Tim Beck.

1093
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could talk about Van dy Nex. We got

1094
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: two teams left here that we're going to discuss.

1095
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: But no Carson Beck, No, no quin Yours, no Jackson

1096
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: Dart no, whatever you think of Garrett nus meyern LSU's

1097
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: what should be a really good offense, Like good place, man,

1098
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 2: it's a good place.

1099
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a great place. It's a great place. And

1100
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: I almost felt guilty not being all in on Miszoo

1101
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: because we did that episode. No Nico right, No, Now,

1102
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: we did that episode a couple months ago, and we

1103
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: said Maszoo's projected as a top ten team and I

1104
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: could see them finishing as a top five team because

1105
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: of the schedule. I love this hype. I like him.

1106
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 1: I'm just very conflicted and that's why I had them

1107
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: in my So what's your number? Right?

1108
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 2: What is with this schedule? What is there over under?

1109
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: Would you say?

1110
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: No? Runners nine and a half over unders nine and

1111
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: a half. I'd still be inclined to go over. I'm

1112
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: not putting it in the volcano. I'm putting in the volcano.

1113
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: You want it in the volcano? Missoo ten wins? Yeah, oh,

1114
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: bartis why births.

1115
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't even think it's that hot. I think it's

1116
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: it's a gentle warmth.

1117
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: Close things out. We got two teams left, yeah, two

1118
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: teams starting over in different respects Mississippi State and Vandy.

1119
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: But you mentioned Vandy, so let me do Vandy please?

1120
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: Two and ten. Last season, they only beat Hawaii and

1121
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: Alabama A and M. Then they lost ten straight. Not

1122
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: a great finish to the season for clark Lee. The

1123
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: issue at Vandy is talent. It is not any is

1124
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: a talent thing. And it's been tougher to recruit there

1125
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: because of the academics you layer in the portal. For example,

1126
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: they lose their top four receivers, just makes a job harder.

1127
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: The lines have struggled. The pass defense a specially, has

1128
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: struggled the last few seasons. Clark Lee now has two

1129
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: two to ten seasons to his name. It was time

1130
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: at Vandy. Overall, he's won just nine games and three.

1131
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: Years with the five and seven in there, Ty with

1132
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: and five and seven.

1133
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: The five and seven. So Vandy's obviously in danger for

1134
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: all of these reasons and many more that I won't describe.

1135
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: I am not here to grave dance or spike the

1136
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: football on the doors. If you root for him, you

1137
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: already know. Here are the two reasons why they could

1138
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: be dangerous. They could at least be interesting this season.

1139
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: The first is something that you mentioned. Changes on offense.

1140
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: Tim Beck, the one from New Mexico State, Yep, not

1141
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: the other one. He comes over. He brought Diego Pavia

1142
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: with him at quarterback. He also brought Jerry Kill with

1143
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: them to be an analyst.

1144
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1145
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: They also landed Date Johnson, the quarterback from Utah in

1146
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: the portal. It's going to be more of an option attack,

1147
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: which I don't think think is the worst idea in

1148
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,479
Speaker 1: the world, do I, And I'm not an option guy.

1149
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: And it's not to say they're gonna be Navy or

1150
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: Army overnight, but it's more of that. I don't think

1151
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: that's a horrible idea. At a place like Vandy, you

1152
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 1: need the line play in order to make it work,

1153
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: which they have not had. But I like thinking out

1154
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: of the box here, Okay, and if nothing more, it

1155
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: makes it interesting, right, Diego Pinet makes it. He had

1156
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: the helmet twisted around, he runs hot. What's not to

1157
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: love about Diego Pavia? I think I'm with you. I

1158
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: think that that whole offense and some of the changes

1159
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: that Clarklee is trying to make there make this team interesting.

1160
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: And the second is that clark Lee has now taken

1161
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: over the rings on defense where he's got a good

1162
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: track record for being a coordinator. We are probably nearing

1163
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: the end of his run at Vandy. I hope not,

1164
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I hope not either. I'm a rooting for it.

1165
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: But if and when that happens, he can kind of

1166
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: pick the spot as a coordinator, right, like somebody would

1167
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: hire him with a moment's notice. Sure, so maybe he

1168
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: makes that defense more interesting. Again, it's just a talent

1169
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: thing for Vandy. Do they got the horses to contend

1170
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: in this now sixteen team conference where they don't have

1171
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: the easiest schedule where they lost ten straight a year ago,

1172
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: where they're over under is three this season, they have

1173
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: the lowest over under in the SEC. Again, I'm not

1174
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: here to spite the football, Yeah, those are at least are

1175
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: two reasons why they could be somewhat dangerous or at

1176
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: a minimum interesting.

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01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to be overlooked. There are teams on

1178
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: their schedule as I pull it up, but as I

1179
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: remember it, like, there are teams who could fall apart.

1180
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: There are teams who you could see having a very

1181
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: definitive weakness that they can't figure out.

1182
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: And if Vandy is.

1183
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: Better coached because of Jerry Kill, because Clark Lee has

1184
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: his fingerprints on the defense more than he's had, I

1185
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: think he's like they've recruited pretty well, They've lost a

1186
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 2: lot of those good recruits to other schools. I think

1187
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: the eye for talent is good. And there is something

1188
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: about merely being overlooked and feeling like you have nothing

1189
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: to lose that could make Vandy a little bit dangerous.

1190
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: I thought they were going to be more dangerous than

1191
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: they were last year, and there was you know, aj Swan,

1192
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 2: and they were trying to be a little more direct

1193
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 2: with things and they didn't really match up and they

1194
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: couldn't get it done. So obviously there was some sort

1195
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: of behind the scenes messaging that said, we need to

1196
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: bring in more players, and I know we don't always

1197
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: do this, and we need to bring in somebody who

1198
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: can help. And I know as things fell apart at

1199
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 2: New Mexico State that it became an attractive place. I

1200
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 2: think Jerry Kill didn't even go in with the idea

1201
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: of like trying to get hired as like an offensive

1202
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 2: coordinator something like that. He was just like, what about

1203
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: you know these guys, what about these guys? What about

1204
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: hiring me? I got nothing to do. Let's win some

1205
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: football games, and so I hope it works. So I

1206
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: hope it's a good marriage.

1207
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: I do. I hope it works. But Van Vandy's got

1208
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: an uphill climb, just as they always have.

1209
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: It'd be cool if they went to a bowl game,

1210
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: but it's real difficult to see with the schedule and

1211
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: where the conference is right.

1212
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: Now, from an over under of three to an over

1213
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: under of four with Mississippi State Dan bring us Home

1214
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: Mississippi State five and seven. Last year they fired Zach Arnett,

1215
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: who our friends over at Athlon mistakenly referred to in

1216
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: their magazine as Will Arnette different Arnett. Gmc all signs

1217
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: point to this being a rebuilding gear for the Bulldogs.

1218
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: What does the immediate future look like? What does it

1219
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: look like in the medium in longer terms, based on

1220
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: whatever indications we have now through just a couple months

1221
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: of the Levee regime.

1222
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: Right, we know what this offense is going to be obviously,

1223
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 2: given his time at UCF, given his time at Oklahoma.

1224
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: We know that they're going to play pretty quickly. We

1225
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: know that they're going to try to get the ball

1226
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: to receivers quickly and you know, play with with a

1227
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: good kind of reckless abandon as Jeff Levy offenses have.

1228
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: If receivers that they've brought in from the portal and

1229
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: that they've recruited recently work out and they're somewhat explosive,

1230
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: then there's a little bit of danger to them. Right,

1231
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 2: there's danger in a good way for Mississippi State. They

1232
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: already playing a difficult place to play. There are pieces

1233
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: along this defense that are interesting. They lost a couple

1234
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: big linebackers, of course, highlight by Bookie Wattson last year,

1235
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 2: but there are enough pieces up front on defense to

1236
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: make them interesting. If they can stay healthy, they're gonna

1237
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,479
Speaker 2: be running a three four, so they're switching away from

1238
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: Zach Arnett's three three five, So a new base, but

1239
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 2: you know most teams play Nickel anyway, it's Coleman Hutzler

1240
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: who comes in who's actually has a really impressive special

1241
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 2: teams background as well, but he comes in from Alabama

1242
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: most recently where he's coached I believe linebackers. So new system.

1243
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: It's a year zero situation. It's been a weird situation

1244
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: all together because of Mike Leech's passing and how that

1245
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: sort of changed the schedule and coaching apparatus in Starkville.

1246
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I think they're being very smart

1247
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: about how they're approaching things. You know, Blake Shapin is

1248
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: not looked at as like a high ceiling guy, but

1249
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: he's a guy with experience and was in a pretty

1250
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 2: bad situation at Baylor offensively last year. So we know

1251
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: the best of Blake Shapin is decently good. And so

1252
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 2: you pair that with a very quarterback friendly system. You know,

1253
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: the big question for Mississippi State is, you know, what

1254
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: do they look like in week in, year two, year three?

1255
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: Right this year is kind of a wash. We'll see

1256
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: you get what they're going for with Jeff Levy that

1257
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: they're trying to, you know, higher from the lane. Kiff

1258
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 2: and Tree and you know, a younger guy, fun offense,

1259
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 2: and hopefully that resonates in state. Hopefully he'll continue to

1260
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: recruit pretty well, which I think he will. So the

1261
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: danger is just that they don't have the pieces, they

1262
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: don't have the star power, and it's going to take

1263
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: a minute to rebuild this roster because last year clearly

1264
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: didn't work out, and they should be able to find

1265
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: it on both sides of the ball. We've seen the

1266
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: best of Mississippi State this past you know, Deck fifteen

1267
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 2: years or whatever. You can find top level offensive skill.

1268
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're name Fred, which I always appreciate. You find

1269
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: all American caliber defensive linemen, linebackers, whatever, corners like. You

1270
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 2: can absolutely find an eight and four team in Starkville.

1271
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 2: And so if they're smart about how they build the offense,

1272
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: if the hires continue to be sound, Jeff Lebry hiring

1273
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 2: Jeff Leby's offensive coordinator is a good first step, I

1274
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: think they'll they're they're ceiling this year. Their danger is

1275
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 2: that they're fun and nobody figures out how to stop

1276
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: them quickly enough in a game and they lose. But

1277
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: making a bowl game is a big ask this year.

1278
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: But you know, if they're in that like five and seven,

1279
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 2: six and six range and playing for something late that's

1280
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 2: interesting to me. Sure, absolutely.

1281
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: Right in solidverbod gmail dot com. Let us know what

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Speaker 1: we got right, what we got wrong. If you are

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Speaker 1: on any of the platforms that allow you to comment,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your and be nice, but generally

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Speaker 1: we'd love to hear what you have to say about

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Speaker 1: what we got right, what we got wrong.

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Speaker 2: At least if you're going to criticize Tye, I just

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Speaker 2: need the preamble of Look, we can all agree Tye

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Speaker 2: is handsome and charming.

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Speaker 1: Com up, but I could deal with that, all right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you give me that, If you give me that,

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Speaker 1: that we can seems like a great guy. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Let's take on Miszoo is such that it's

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Speaker 1: all I know. We're gonna get a lot of you

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Speaker 1: didn't do your homework on socio. So that's okay, part

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Speaker 1: of that, part of the part of the game here

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Speaker 1: we all got to play. At this time of year,

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Speaker 1: we're excited to play it. Look, we're halfway through all

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Speaker 1: teams in the SEC. On our next episode, on part three,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do Alabama and LSU, Tennessee and Oklahoma, Kentucky

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Speaker 1: and Auburn, and then close things out with South Carolina

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Speaker 1: and Arkansas. Hope you'll be here with us. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you hit follow or subscribe if you have yet to

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Speaker 1: do so. Going out to verbowlers dot com if you

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Speaker 1: want to find out more about our Patreon community. To

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Speaker 1: to our Discord server. We've got college football twenty five

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Speaker 1: dynasties spinning up. Dan, I need to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about our recruiting strategy by the way, at my Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that offline a little bit, all right.

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Speaker 1: Got got some news to share with you on that front,

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Speaker 1: all right, And of course, yeah, follow us on social

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Speaker 1: media and send us those emails at seliverball atmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: So I have ty part two officially in the books

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Speaker 1: for the sec one more to go here where it

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Speaker 1: just means more for that guy, Dan Rubinstein, for myself.

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Speaker 1: Tie old man, talk y'all in a few days. Stay solid, Peace,