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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome in through a Monday at issue

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Speaker 1: of Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: Glad to be with you. I'm your hostess evening, John Harris,

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Speaker 1: Football Adilston silent reporter, alongside the Voice of the Texans

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Speaker 1: and Vice President. Oh boy a broadcast. Why did you

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Speaker 1: throw that in there? Because I heard you say it

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Speaker 1: to DP on the podcast the other day and she

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Speaker 1: mentioned that about you, and I thought, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: never I've never said that, even though I know it

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Speaker 1: and I'm very I'm very proud of it, proud that

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Speaker 1: you were my boss and pard that you were proud

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Speaker 1: of you leading that department, But I just have never

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Speaker 1: said that before, never said it out loud. I don't

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Speaker 1: really a vice president of broadcasting in digital correct. I

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Speaker 1: am not really into titles. Johnny, you know the one

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Speaker 1: title that means so much to me, his Voice of

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Speaker 1: the Texans. Yes, because I go back to that and

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Speaker 1: people have seen the movie Casino, you know, with Robert

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Speaker 1: De Niro and Joe Pesci, which at the time seems

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Speaker 1: sort of disappointing because it's not as good as Good Fellas,

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Speaker 1: but not as good as Good Fellas leaves a lot

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Speaker 1: of room for x Slen still and it really is

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Speaker 1: excellent casino anyway, in that movie, de Niro is running

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Speaker 1: the casino, but he's got to keep changing titles because

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the gambling license. So I told Jamie

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Speaker 1: Roots when I got the job, I don't care if

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Speaker 1: you call me food and beverage director, you know, because

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Speaker 1: that's what he was, Yeah, for a stretch entertainment director.

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Speaker 1: Call me food and beverage manager. I don't care. I

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Speaker 1: just want to work here and do my thing and

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Speaker 1: have my crew and do what we do, which has

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Speaker 1: created all this great content on digital video audio wherever

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Speaker 1: it is heard and consumed. Yeah, no doubt. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: if you haven't seen the Dylan Cole fifty three yet

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Speaker 1: fifty three Dylan Cole, it is outstanding. It is outstanding.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Dylan retweeted it the other day. It's about

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Speaker 1: seven and a half minutes and it tells the story

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Speaker 1: of his first touchdown and the family, the little girl

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Speaker 1: that he gave the ball to. It's an unbelievable story

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Speaker 1: told extremely well by our man Tyler saw Sudge does

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Speaker 1: a tremendous job with it. It is so so very good.

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Speaker 1: So yes, yeah, you're gonna feel it. And it's probably

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Speaker 1: it's one of the most well received videos we've ever had,

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Speaker 1: and it's getting viewed a lot, obviously, but also the comments,

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Speaker 1: you know, because it's the NFL. Anything in the NFL

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Speaker 1: right now, posted by any team, you get some you

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Speaker 1: had a lot of positive comments. You get some cynical people,

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Speaker 1: but this one has been so positive and it's just wonderful.

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Speaker 1: So check it out on Houston Texans dot com. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is very very well done. Mark, we are. We're

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Speaker 1: a week away from training camp. Tech to me, I

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Speaker 1: know it doesn't start to Wednesday, but technically training camp

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Speaker 1: starts next week and teams are starting to report. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens rookies have been there since last Wednesday. Wow, they've

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Speaker 1: been there for a while. That's a long haul for them.

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Speaker 1: That's almost burnout city when you think about it. Eight

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Speaker 1: weeks before you play your first regular season game. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot. And they've already been in the building for

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Speaker 1: a long time. I know they had their break, but geez,

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Speaker 1: rookie wall. You talk about rookie wall. It's a real thing. Man.

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Speaker 1: Well here's the one thing that got me because I've

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Speaker 1: got this question from some people, and I'm not totally

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Speaker 1: sure how to answer it. But somebodyle say, well, why

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Speaker 1: do the rookies report earlier than the veterans? And I

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Speaker 1: thought it might have been just team choice right to

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Speaker 1: a degree, but I'm not totally sure. I'm sure there's

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Speaker 1: something in the CBA that says you can have a

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Speaker 1: certain amount of time with rookies. The Texans have not

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Speaker 1: done that that I can remember. Ever. It's been rookies

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Speaker 1: and veterans reporting on the same day and let's go

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Speaker 1: to battle the next day. Well, I know they stay

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Speaker 1: longer at the end of mini camps, they stay a

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Speaker 1: little longer. They have the symposium too, or whatever. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the official is on that on

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Speaker 1: rookies getting in earlier, if at all, but I think

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Speaker 1: they feel like after they're you know, here for so long,

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Speaker 1: Rookies are doing practice before the veterans are, and they

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Friday, a little bit of news that happened

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Speaker 1: And the day that that information had come out, I

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Speaker 1: a decision made. The decision made was to release him

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Speaker 1: from his contract. At that point. We've talked all offseason

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Speaker 1: Mark about the offensive line. I don't think at any point,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know about you, but I was asked

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Speaker 1: this question at a season ticket holder, our section leader

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Speaker 1: really sure how to answer it. Of course, the very

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Speaker 1: planned on Jeff being here for the twenty eighteen season

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Speaker 1: at all. So that news, albeit not the greatest news

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Speaker 1: for Jeff and his family, and Jeff was great to

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Speaker 1: I don't think at any point I ever thought that

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Speaker 1: I didn't find it as earth shattering news. And maybe

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Speaker 1: but I never expected Jeff to be back for twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: What'd you think about that decision finally being made out Jeff? Well,

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Speaker 1: I know he is going into the third year of

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Speaker 1: as well as they wanted it too. Let's just put

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Speaker 1: it that way, and contracts being are what they are

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Speaker 1: and professional football, it just looked like that could be

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Speaker 1: a situation that would get resolved, for lack of a

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Speaker 1: And here's the other tip off. They signed two free

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Speaker 1: agent guards. Okay, that started other places. That should be

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Speaker 1: an indicator that maybe they're thinking of going in another direction,

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Speaker 1: and clearly they did. And you and I have been

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Speaker 1: talking about this offensive line and how Senio kill them

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Speaker 1: I think that should have tipped people off as well.

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Speaker 1: this offensive line, and I wrote about this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but the offensive line with four new starters, my goodness,

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Speaker 1: they need to gel and fast. And whatever they did

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Speaker 1: in OTAs I'm sure helps. But look, they had injury

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Speaker 1: think he's a projected starter or anything, but you still

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Speaker 1: want to see something out of him. So you're still

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Speaker 1: gonna be moving guys around. Let's hope they can get

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Speaker 1: out there day one? How big would that be? Johnny?

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Speaker 1: So he gets six weeks with these guys together, because

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Speaker 1: my drift, Yeah, they can get a lot of Did

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Speaker 1: I say get my drift twice in one segment? I

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Speaker 1: need to play well. If if we put health just

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Speaker 1: the biggest and main concern for not only this team,

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Speaker 1: but considering the guys that miss time in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 1: That's kind of a Hall of Fame concern. If you will,

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Speaker 1: you don't even talk about that is the biggest concern

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Speaker 1: in your mind going to the Greenbrier. The offensive line, Yes,

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Speaker 1: there's no question it's that. And you and I have

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Speaker 1: talked about some of the subtleties like, oh, the running

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Speaker 1: back position, what if Deanta Foreman can't be healthy Week one?

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Speaker 1: We just mentioned the secondary linebackers who feel good about.

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Speaker 1: People say, well, what about Brian Cushing. Well, you went

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Speaker 1: know Cole got her. Everybody got hurt, it seems. But

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Speaker 1: You have all those new starters. You have a group

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Speaker 1: they're there for a reason. This group has to be together.

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Speaker 1: And I'm hoping that that ota work helps. But the

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Speaker 1: still had three stars last year, the first starting on

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Speaker 1: the last a half, and then Chris Clark came into

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Speaker 1: went on for Julian those last couple of games. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't facing a bunch of slappies. He was facing t J. Watt,

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Speaker 1: who was one of the better rookie rushers. And obviously

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Speaker 1: we know the connection to JJ, his brother and such,

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Speaker 1: but he also faced your ball Sheared. Sheared is a

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Speaker 1: guy that has given every Texans offensive tackle. He gave

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Speaker 1: Derek Newton a ton of trouble when he was playing

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Speaker 1: the Colts. I mean, Sheared gives everybody trouble. And yet

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Speaker 1: Juliane held his own very well in that game. If

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Speaker 1: I have a concern with the offensive line, I said

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Speaker 1: this the other night when I was asked about it.

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Speaker 1: Of course, everybody wants to talk about the health of

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Speaker 1: the team. How's JJ, How's Deshaun? How's Deonte? Is Whitney

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Speaker 1: ready to go? Really we don't know about I mean,

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Speaker 1: JJ is gonna be ready. Not sure we know much

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Speaker 1: All Access from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. John Harris here,

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Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Doherty there, and Buddy, how we get great?

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Speaker 1: It was good. It's good to be back with you.

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Speaker 1: do a weird They don't just they don't just swim

427
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Speaker 1: freestyle or just swim, but they do. They have like

428
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Speaker 1: this oh their own stroke that they do that. I

429
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 1: when I've seen it, I'm like, it's just confusing it.

430
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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. I've heard I've heard some teams

431
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 1: will do, you know, like I said, the hundreds tests. Now,

432
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what the Texans do, but I've I've

433
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: heard a couple of guys talking about hundreds and I

434
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Speaker 1: think they've got to make They've got to make it

435
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Speaker 1: under a certain amount of time. I believe for their

436
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: hundreds and I think the last couple of years they've

437
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 1: all come back. I think they've been one hundred percent

438
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 1: conditioning wise, I believe the last last couple of years.

439
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 1: So I don't know exactly what they different conditioning, but

440
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 1: they will do that here, Yeah, which will be tough. Sorry, No,

441
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: I like it that road because another thing I sent

442
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: you You and Eric Santo to Censius and some more

443
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: podcasts listened to about the soccer stuff. Yeah, I've heard them. Ye,

444
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: they advertised it during Crimetown. It's good. It's good. It's enjoyable.

445
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: Not as good as Crimetown, it's still very enjoyable. But

446
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety US Men's World Cup team they didn't

447
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 1: have like they would practice a little bit and then

448
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 1: they were just sent off into the wild basically before

449
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Speaker 1: their next because they didn't have like an organized program

450
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Speaker 1: like they do now, and not all the guys were

451
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: playing professionally. Yeah, so like there's one guy who was

452
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: an aerospace engineer and he would practice like kicking a

453
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Speaker 1: ball against the walls. But when they came back each

454
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: time they with their their conditioning test was had to

455
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Speaker 1: run two miles under twelve minutes. I think, which that's

456
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's fairly salty. Yeah, that's not It's

457
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Speaker 1: not backbreaking, but it's not easy either. No, it's so.

458
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Speaker 1: I just that's why I've I've started taking benchmarks. I'm

459
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Speaker 1: making sure that I get my miles. Now that I'm

460
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Speaker 1: forty six, I get my miles under twelve minutes, just

461
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Speaker 1: a mile. U. But I've but I've gotten better. And

462
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Speaker 1: I never used to run long distances because I played football, basketball, baseball,

463
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Speaker 1: and you didn't run long distances. In those it was

464
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Speaker 1: always start, stop, changing direction, burst, So it was always

465
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Speaker 1: it was always sprints and sprints of of different forms

466
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Speaker 1: I read. I remember when I first got our conditioning

467
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Speaker 1: booklet when I was going to be a freshman at Brown,

468
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Speaker 1: and this was the summer conditioning booklet you were supposed

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Speaker 1: to follow, and I was trying to follow it to

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Speaker 1: a t. You know. I remember one of the one

471
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Speaker 1: of the days that said do the fartleg? Have you

472
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Speaker 1: heard that? I'd never heard of the fart leg at

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Speaker 1: that point, and I remember looking at it. I was like, man,

474
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Speaker 1: what's the fart? Like? What is this? And I looked

475
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Speaker 1: at what it was like. The way they described it was,

476
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Speaker 1: you run a half mile as fast as you can,

477
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Speaker 1: and then you jog a half mile, and then you

478
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Speaker 1: run eight hundred, you know, a half eight hundreds half mile.

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Speaker 1: You run that as fast as you possibly can go,

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Speaker 1: and then you jog it again. So I think you

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Speaker 1: do that for two miles. And I tried. I tried

482
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Speaker 1: it the first time. I'm like, oh my god, I

483
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Speaker 1: I almost died. I almost died. I have not seen

484
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Speaker 1: the term fart like forever in forever, and apparently it's

485
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Speaker 1: like a Swedish word. It's not well, it's a guy,

486
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Speaker 1: it's a sweet I think it's a Swedish guy. His

487
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Speaker 1: name was Robin fart Like and he came up with this. Well.

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Speaker 1: The reason I know that is the other day I've

489
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Speaker 1: got the Nike Run Club app on my phone, and

490
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Speaker 1: that's how I run attracts everything. And every now and

491
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Speaker 1: again they'll pop up a little you know, with a

492
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Speaker 1: little notification or whatever saying hey do this or hey

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Speaker 1: do that. And it popped up and said one hard,

494
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Speaker 1: two slow. I think I can't remember how they phrased it,

495
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Speaker 1: but essentially it was the farther but it was a

496
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Speaker 1: little different saying one hard too slow, and I think

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Speaker 1: whether they're saying was run one minute for us as

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Speaker 1: hard as you can go, and then two it's like

499
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Speaker 1: you're recovering, but you're still stayed act right right. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's different than what we were given.

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Speaker 1: That I could, I could see, and that I could

502
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: I could seemingly handle, but eight hundred meters as fast

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Speaker 1: as I could go and then eight hundred meters in

504
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Speaker 1: a jog and then do it again. Okay, based on

505
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Speaker 1: this conversation here, you would enjoy following a guy on

506
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Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter named Stu stew Smith. He was a

507
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Speaker 1: Navy seal. He wrote books about how to train to

508
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Speaker 1: be a Navy seal. But he's got some pretty interesting

509
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: at workouts. He'll put up and he's like you do this,

510
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Speaker 1: this and this and then rest with twenty five push

511
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: ups like that's his rest. Whatever. It's like, thanks guy. Well,

512
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Speaker 1: the it popped up this weekend on It may have

513
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Speaker 1: been on before, but my daughter and I don't know

514
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Speaker 1: why my daughter has has liked this as much, but

515
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Speaker 1: the CrossFit competition, the world crossing, the competition that that

516
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: rebound does they do a documentary on it every single year,

517
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: and they did it last year and we watched it

518
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Speaker 1: and she was just, well, I can't wait for this

519
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Speaker 1: to come out. And so they did another one on

520
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Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen championship and then well we're at the

521
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Speaker 1: Greenbrier to have the other one, and so all the

522
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Speaker 1: different exercises that they do for CrossFit, it's I mean,

523
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Speaker 1: it's amazing, and a lot of people that I know

524
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Speaker 1: that your cross fit there's sort of what's the right

525
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: way of saying this, They can be sort of upity

526
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Speaker 1: about it, but I like the fact that they get

527
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: so creative with the works to change things up, and

528
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Speaker 1: that's why I try to do that for my players,

529
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Speaker 1: and I would imagine that Luke Richardson does that for

530
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Speaker 1: these players, especially when you get to this level. You're

531
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Speaker 1: doing the same thing, all right, You're doing bench press,

532
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: you're doing this. I would imagine that every single day

533
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: is an old bore, but doing it and changing it

534
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Speaker 1: up so I'll keeping it functional. I'm applying it to daily.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of what from what I hear what they

536
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Speaker 1: try to do too. I'm curious as to what the

537
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Speaker 1: conditioning tests will now be with a new sports performance

538
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: staff in place, and how that will change how they're

539
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: looking at it a little differently. And I've always know

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Speaker 1: the conditioning tests, and it's interesting that you brought it up.

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Speaker 1: The conditioning tests have always been you know, some running.

542
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Speaker 1: You know, it could be change of direction, it could

543
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: be straight sprints, whatever, but it's never anything other than that.

544
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Speaker 1: And I've always been curious about that, Like a weight

545
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: condition Yeah, where's the Yeah, where's the push ups or

546
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Speaker 1: where you have to do a certain number of push

547
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: ups or whatever? Or the wheelbarrow carry or something like

548
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: that fireman's carry you gotta carry, Vince will Fork on

549
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: this one to be able to you gotta swim with

550
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: your all your clothes on and your shoes on a

551
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: hundred yards dragon a buddy go. So there you go.

552
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: That's that's gonna be the conditioning test, and the team

553
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: will get on the plane and then head to the Greenbriers.

554
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: So thankfully we will not be doing conditioning tests, which

555
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 1: will be kind of nice. But I like the one

556
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Speaker 1: you came up with. That's pretty interesting. Yeah, it's I

557
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: want to I'm gonna see how because I've got progress

558
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: I need to make you know, like what happy with

559
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: my first go round? But I think where did you?

560
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: Where did you come up with that? It's a I

561
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: cobbled it together from that that guy I mentioned. Oh yeah,

562
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: it's like it's like three components of his and he

563
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Speaker 1: has like a fifteen. There's like no way it'd take

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Speaker 1: me three hours to do it. Yeah, you know, and

565
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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'd love to be in that sort of

566
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: shape and I'm not, but I just you know, I

567
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: was like, let's do some strength and something with your abs,

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00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: and then since I swim, let's do some endurance. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you were, You're a monster pool that which That was

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Speaker 1: the other one that I remember when they send a

571
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: conditioning guide to us. The far look was the one

572
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: thing that stood up, But the other one was swimming

573
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Speaker 1: really football. They it was I I, to this day,

574
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Speaker 1: to this day have said the most difficult work on it.

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00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: We never did that brown. But it was you could

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Speaker 1: either job. I think it was you could either jog

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Speaker 1: for on your cool down day or your non non

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00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: sprint explosion explosive change direction day. You could either swim

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Speaker 1: for twenty minutes or you could jog for an hour. No,

580
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: you could job forty five minutes to play basketball for

581
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: an hour. Well, if you can't find guys to play

582
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Speaker 1: basketball with, yeah, you're kind of limited. And it's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I never liked jogging, but I

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Speaker 1: do it now as regularly as I can. I was like,

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Speaker 1: let me try this pool thing. Let me let me

586
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Speaker 1: try and swim. Did you go to the neighborhood pool

587
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Speaker 1: and do this? I would go to the neighborhood pool.

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00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 1: I'll go to a friends pool. I would just go

589
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: back and forth, thanks, back and forth, back and forth,

590
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth. I got out of

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Speaker 1: the pool after twenty minutes. I'm like, oh my god,

592
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: it it was. They'll take it out of you. It was.

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00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: And from that point Ford I always chocked. Yeah, I

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00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 1: didn't want to go back in the pool. That is raw.

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Speaker 1: Let me rewind you. You said I'm I'm a monster

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Speaker 1: in the pool. Thank you for saying that. But I

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00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: swim in the mornings before work. And right now where

598
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: I swim, I'm in this one pool and in the

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Speaker 1: other pool there's probably about seventy five eighty high school

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Speaker 1: kids doing their like their club swimming for they are

601
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: monsters in the pool like that. You just walking by

602
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: walking by that pool to get to my pool. It's like, yeah,

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00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not anything serious here. What I was

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Speaker 1: why was in Jacksonville. I worked in a place called

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Speaker 1: the Bowl School for a year. The year I got

606
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: there was nineteen eighty seven. It was it was just

607
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: it was after the ninety six Atlanta Olympics. They pumped

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Speaker 1: a lot of kids into the Olympics. Day in our dorm,

609
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: there were twelve kids that swam Olympics. I've seen that

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00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: those jokers would be up and out the door at

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Speaker 1: four thirty. They would walk down over to the pool.

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00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: Practice started at five. It went from five to seven,

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Speaker 1: and it was NonStop. I once went there for a

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Speaker 1: practice and I'm like, oh my god, they're all gonna die.

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00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: And they just every day it was. It's unbelievable. The

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Speaker 1: pool workout is I think it's maybe that's a conditioning

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00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: test that they could throw in the amount of guys

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Speaker 1: that get swimmed. Drew appreciated, brother, hey man, we were

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about training. Kids were just wound up talking

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Speaker 1: about exercise. But you know what that's Wednesday's about. Because

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Speaker 1: Wednesday will be one week the day where we will

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Speaker 1: be doing a live show from the Greenbrier that night

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Speaker 1: for All Access because Texans Training Camp can't live will

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00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: start the very next morning on that Thursday. Looking forward

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00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: to that, Drew appreciated brothers. Can't wait. Man, good talking

626
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: with you. Coming up, we'll go the league and well,

627
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna focus on an article written by someone from

628
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: NFL Media seemingly doubting one Jay Jay Watt. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: see what Bucky Brooks has to say about this and

630
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: where he got his inspiration from, which I find very interesting.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that next right here on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: One final segment of Texans All Access from the Honday

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris. I tell

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Speaker 1: you that it's the Honday Texans Radio Studio because we're

635
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: gonna take this bad boy on the road next week,

636
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: starting Wednesday, we'll do a live show from the Greenbrier

637
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Speaker 1: as Mark Vanbry and I did last year, which was

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Speaker 1: fun to do because we had never been to the Greenbriers,

639
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: so we didn't know what the setup was gonna look like.

640
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: It was our first time, my first time there, had

641
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: our little radio tent. We were right there on the field,

642
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: like right at the field, did our show and get

643
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: getting You Ready for Training Camp Live the following morning,

644
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: starting at eight o'clock. So your radio schedule starting not

645
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: this Wednesday, I'm sorry, starting next Thursday. Not this Thursday.

646
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Speaker 1: Next Thursday on Sports Radio six ten, you will have

647
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: Mad Radio from six to eight in the morning with Seth,

648
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: Mike and Paul. Then you have Us from eight to ten,

649
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: and then the rest of the day will follow along

650
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: as it typically does. You'll have in the Loop with

651
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: Landry Fred and John Lopez, and then you will have

652
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: Triple Threat. Then that will continue on it to the

653
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: next week, and then it will go through Wednesday of

654
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: the following week. So two weeks of Texans Training Camp Live.

655
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Speaker 1: We plan to have plenty of guests for you. Mike

656
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: Dan Tony was there last year. Hopefully we can catch

657
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: up with him. The governor of West Virginia, Gym Justice,

658
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: who I thought was a complete character and so fond

659
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: to talk to. Hopefully have a chance to talk with him.

660
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: I had Lee Trevino on with me one day, which

661
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: was absolutely awesome. He is the pro at the the

662
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: Old White I think it is is the name of

663
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: the course up there at the Greenbrier so we had

664
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Speaker 1: all kinds of guests join us. We had NFL media

665
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: that would join us for various things, so we'll have

666
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff for you. We will also

667
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: do our Texas All Access shows, and we'll also have

668
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: all our podcasts, So everything that you need from training camp,

669
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: you will no doubt get it while we are up

670
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: there in West Virginia. So yeah, it sounds like in

671
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: some sense of working vacation. It kind of is. But

672
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: just the fact that football is starting is good enough.

673
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: So we will kick it off eight to ten every

674
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: single training camp day leading up to the first game

675
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Speaker 1: against Kansas City Chiefs. I believe we're gonna fly out

676
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: for Kansas City that Wednesday after noon, I believe. So

677
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: we'll knock out our show, fly to Kansas City, and

678
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: get ready to play that game against Kansas City on

679
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: Thursday evening. So you got all that to look forward to.

680
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: So Texas Training Camp Live eight to ten local time.

681
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: Now have you happened to me in West Virginia and

682
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: you're listening as you're getting ready for practice, It's nine

683
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: to eleven local time. It's eight to ten here Houston time,

684
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: So it's kind of nice. You get to sleep in.

685
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: I guess a little bit more just means I got

686
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: more time to get my workout in. Not gonna be

687
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: doing the fart leg as Drew and I talked about, No,

688
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: that won't be happening, but hopefully it gets some good,

689
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 1: good runs in while we're up in West Virginia and

690
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: come back. I don't want to say fat and happy,

691
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: but in shape and happy, and hopefully more importantly, this

692
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: Texas football team will be fully healthy going into that game,

693
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: the opener against the New England Patriot. That's that's a

694
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: little ways off a training camp is sneaking up on us,

695
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: which is kind of nice. Now, I mentioned article on

696
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: nfl dot Com from Bucky Brooks. Now, if you don't

697
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: know Bucky, Bucky played the NFL for a little while.

698
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: He was a scout in the NFL, and now he

699
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: works at NFL Media and he kind of runs the game.

700
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff with the draft, but he

701
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: also does so he also looks at the NFL as well.

702
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: And he did an article that I think he does

703
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: it every so often and he just kind of it's

704
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: kind of a potpourri of different things and this one

705
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: he talks about them This is his notebook. I guess

706
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: as they call it. I don't know, have to have

707
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: a title for it. But he essentially looks at the

708
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: top five play caller tandems. He talks about some other aspects,

709
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: and then he hits on the trade of Gronk or

710
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: lack thereof shouldn't trade gronk and then his final point.

711
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: And this is how it's titled. JJ Watts Madden rating

712
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: raises questions. Let me repeat that JJ Watts Madden rating

713
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: raises questions. Now I don't know exactly why. Well, I

714
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: mean I do once you read the article. It makes

715
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: more sense if you read the article that just is

716
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: this JJ on Madden ended up with a rating I

717
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: believe was I think it was ninety eight. He was

718
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: considered one of the Yeah, he earned an overall ninety

719
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: eight grade, which was the same as Julio Jones and

720
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and Bucky Brooks. Is incredulous to this fact,

721
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: and he breaks down a lot of the various things

722
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: he said in a quote, No disrespected three time NFL

723
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. But here in the second

724
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: highest grade the game just by missing most of the

725
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 1: last two seasons with injury. It's true, while it doesn't

726
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: fortunate injuries slowed down one of the most suppressive for

727
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: year runs everybody defensive player. You can't allow Wat's pass

728
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: performance to impact his current grade, particularly when he is

729
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: coming off a pair of serious injuries. Now, a couple

730
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: of things here. Number one two completely right off JJ

731
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: as being back at that caliber of player after injuries.

732
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit foolhardy to be honest

733
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: with you. We know, I don't think anyone really, I don't.

734
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone really knows. Here's the thing. When

735
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: when JJ came off the back injury last year and

736
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: I went back and I've watched those I have not

737
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: watched the Jacksonville game. I'm not doing that. That's just

738
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, if I if you want a nightmare, if

739
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: you want to not sleep at night, watch the whole

740
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: big Jacksonville game. That's not fun to watch. But since

741
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: Natty New England and Tennessee, I've I've watched now the

742
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: Tennessee game. There really isn't a whole lot The defense

743
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: faced forty something plays that game. I mean, that was

744
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: really that was all they faced during that game. It

745
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: was it was remarkable. I want to say it started.

746
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: There were some stars that played thirty two plays in

747
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: that game. It was just amazing. But I watched a

748
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: New England game and I watched it plenty, and I

749
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: watched the Cincinnati game and I've watched it plenty, and

750
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: that was after a back surgery. And yeah, JJ didn't

751
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: have a sack through the first four games. But man,

752
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: you talk about create pressure off the edge, you talk

753
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: about playing the run, playing block playing off blockers better

754
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: than maybe I had ever seen him, shown the quickness

755
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: to do what he had always done. And this is

756
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: one of the other things I take Umbridge with. As

757
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks writes this article, he talks about Watt's combination

758
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: of strength powered explosiveness. That is that's very true. He said,

759
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: what played like a bull in a China shop, tossing

760
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: blockers around at the point of attack and were ninety

761
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: nine brute strength is overwhelming for moost blockers and is

762
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: not motor made him near unstoppable on pass rush attempts.

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00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing that's that's really that's not true. If

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00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: you really truly have watched JJ since he's gotten into

765
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: the league. The biggest thing about JJ is his quickness,

766
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: especially off the ball, getting off the ball on the

767
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: snap and then beating defense offensive lineman into the backfield

768
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: with penetration. It's really not been about his power or

769
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: his strength. Now he does flash that when he rushes

770
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: the quarterback, but the one thing about trying to block

771
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: JJ is he never stops and he hits you with

772
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: really good technique. But it's never been one of those

773
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: where he just bowls guys over and he's just the

774
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: power animal. That's really not it. If you watch that

775
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: Patriots game, the first two plays the game, he swims

776
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: offensive lineman quickly, penetrates in the backfield and makes tackles.

777
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: And when you go back and watch him at his

778
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: best in twenty twelve in twenty four team, a lot

779
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: of the plays twenty thirteen as well, a lot of

780
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: the plays that he's making in those games, he's made

781
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: it because of his quickness. Now that might feed the

782
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: beast a little bit more like, well, he just had

783
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: legs surgery, Is he gonna be as quick as he was?

784
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna find out. But it's not

785
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: as if JJ relied on brute strength and power all

786
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: the time. That's that's ridiculous. JJ was the full and

787
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: has been the full compliment of skills. His technique has

788
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: gotten better and better. Nobody can block him in a

789
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: run from a run game standpoint, because he's so quick

790
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: and so intelligent that he understands exactly how he wants

791
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: to get into the backfield and then still does it

792
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: even though teams are designed to stop him. But to

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00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: say that he is a mixture of brute force and

794
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: power and yeah, he's got all those traits and he's

795
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: got all those skills, but he doesn't rely just on

796
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: power to get things done. His game runs the full gamut.

797
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: But it really is his quickness. And after having back surgery,

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00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: he still had that quickness that was still there. Now

799
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: you throw a leg injury on top of that. Okay,

800
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: we don't know. Should JJ had been a ninety eight

801
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: and a man who cares really other than people that

802
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: play the game, doesn't really, it doesn't really matter. I mean,

803
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: it's a projection of you going into the game. And

804
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: obviously JJ's history when he's been on the field is

805
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: to be the most dominant defensive player in the league,

806
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: obviously the last two years. If he plays sixteen games,

807
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: the last two years? Is there any fall off in

808
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: his play? Where are the Texans if they have him

809
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: in both years? I mean, who's to say we don't know?

810
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Is it fair to question, well, what can he be? Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's with two injuries back to back. Sure, there are

812
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people. I mean, I'm sure. I'm sure

813
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: JJ wonders what exactly he's going to be able to

814
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: do after missing two straight years with injuries. There's probably

815
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: just a small part of him that wonders that. So

816
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: is it fair? Sure? Yeah, that's fair. But is it fair?

817
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: And then base it off just complete incorrect, incorrect characterization

818
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: of his assets that make him great? Yeah, I think

819
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: that's I think that's wrong. I think it's wrong. If

820
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: you've watched JJ, you know it's quickness, it's speed, it's

821
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: his ability to get down the line of scrimmage, and

822
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: it's his technique playing and play out. And I haven't

823
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: even mentioned how hard he plays, his effort, the relentlessness,

824
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: his ability to get to the quarterback in a multitude

825
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: of different ways. Yeah, he used his strength, but his

826
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: technique is so good, understanding, leverage, those are all things

827
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: he does. It's not just he's two just brute strength.

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00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: That's not him, that's not him. What's however? And then

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00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: of course Bucket gets into well the Texans could get

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00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: out of the contract with JJ and twenty eighteen, all

831
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. Listen, I don't even think we're

832
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: gonna get to that point. I think you're gonna see

833
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: a JJ. Look, he's he gonna get to twenty sacks. Man,

834
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: You know how hard that is. He did that twice

835
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: in his career. That is incredibly hard to get to.

836
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: If JJ gets double digit sacks, has double digit TFLs

837
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: consistently impacts games. He's still getting two and three blockers

838
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: every single play. Is there going to be a drop off?

839
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: No one knows. Is it fair to think yeah, maybe yes, sure,

840
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: but don't do it mischaracterizing him as being just brewed force.

841
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: That's not what it is. That's not what he is.

842
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: Can't get here fast enough. I know that for a fact.

843
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: Big thanks to Drew, Thanks to Mark vandermir for being by,

844
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: Thanks to you guys for listening. We'll see Mr Buddy,

845
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: and as always, go Texans.