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Speaker 1: We are the authorities on all th R and B.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: My name is Tank Valentine and this yeah, the R

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Speaker 3: and B money, A whole lot of money, the authority

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Speaker 3: on all things. I'm gonna tell him. R and B, yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: Lots of it. You only get the money when you

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Speaker 2: were when you got the honey. Okay, god, okay, go executive, yes,

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Speaker 2: song right now, yeah, producer yeah, multi media mogle.

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Speaker 3: He gonna remix it too, though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, did you do that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get the highest level. Oh no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Don't do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, gentlemen, no introduction needed, but god damn it, you

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Speaker 2: know I gotta do introduction. Yeah yeah, our brother, our brother.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Glad you guys can make it to the

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Speaker 2: When you've been successful.

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Speaker 3: Are you talking a different tone?

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Speaker 2: Decent?

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Speaker 3: Are you talking a different tone when you get to that?

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Speaker 2: That's a regular left and noon, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's very calm over here. Yeah yeah, yeah, one

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Speaker 1: I feel unbelievable, man, you know, I feel good. I

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Speaker 1: lost one hundred and thirty pounds. Yeah, thirty and thirty.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations bro yep, stop being the white food.

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Speaker 2: About to say, how did you do it? To you

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Speaker 1: Know it was the pasta, the bread, the sugar. Eat

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Speaker 1: and then just you know, like not that you're starving

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Speaker 2: You have been doing we we just talked earlier. You've

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Speaker 1: To give it up to them the first time I've

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Speaker 1: learned about understanding the profit split prophet split. Jarry was

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Speaker 2: I'm glad he showed you the profit share because he

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Speaker 1: A lot of time Agel I was very curious. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't tell me that I've done so much

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Speaker 1: Where I discovered Joe at I discovered Joe going to

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Speaker 1: So the first thing about let me say, growing up

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Speaker 1: and the record was named the group called Face Too.

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Speaker 1: The record was called Reaching. So I've done this from

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Speaker 1: every aspect of an artist. I've been an artist, a producer, manager, executive.

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Speaker 1: You know. I produced my very first movie with Harvey Mason.

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Speaker 1: Joe to go back to that was working in a barbershop.

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Speaker 1: I go in a barbershop. He's singing, Joe Thomas, one

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Speaker 1: You know, Joe was working in the barbershop. He was

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Speaker 3: It's a monster cleaning up and singing, singing.

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Speaker 1: Playing the guitar. And I was like, you're right, you sing?

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Speaker 1: What do you do? He was like, I sing? You

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Speaker 1: want to go to studio me. He came to Battery

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Speaker 1: And that's all Joe singing background.

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Speaker 2: This is a great nigga.

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Speaker 3: This is great, This.

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Speaker 1: Is great, This is R and B. So we have

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Speaker 2: Get into like producing? Like, because as you're sing, you've

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Speaker 2: you've made every progression. So where did you decide? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with this producing first. This is the

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Speaker 1: Because I was an artist first, and my brothers in

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Speaker 1: And I just started learning how the program drums and

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Speaker 3: We're not letting that happen. Now.

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Speaker 1: That's not fair. And I'm not here. This is a

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Speaker 1: I made three billion dollars with Goga the Universal. I'm

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Speaker 1: to see other people do that billion. Three billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: We sold one hundred and seventy million albums to date,

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Speaker 1: She said, Okay, I want to sign with you. But

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Speaker 1: sell more records On forty fifth in Crenshaw in LA.

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Speaker 2: You hit that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have shows. I need to paint this picture.

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Speaker 1: No, I just you know, I just love what I

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Speaker 1: And I think we have to understand, like all our music,

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Speaker 1: Haul and Oates, so you think about you know, the Police,

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Speaker 1: If I don't know that guy, I never meet you.

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Speaker 1: Guys at fourteen years.

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Speaker 3: Old, you produced that record at fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you been holding out YEP and.

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Speaker 2: You've been holding out, brother, not today, you've been holding out.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like it's time for me to tell

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Speaker 1: it's like we don't live in that world anymore. Your

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The things of the grace that I learned from Clive

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Speaker 1: you producing Whitney Houston and Stevie Wonder, we didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Those were things that I learned from Clive, working with

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Speaker 1: Tommy Montola and giving Destiny's Child and Beyonce their first

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Speaker 1: hit record. No, no, no, those are you know, things

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Speaker 1: don't tell whose story because they don't know I did it.

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Speaker 1: I went with Clive to the Yankees game, and you

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Speaker 1: unless she had a sports jacket on. Like I spent

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, we don't do that any more music. We

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, we saw it. We saw

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I'm glad you guys are doing it because

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Speaker 1: start because I never lose the emotion.

434
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Speaker 2: In terms of your progression artist producer, like are you

435
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 2: are you kind of like in a sense like guided

436
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 2: from your elders when you start moving into these executive

437
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 2: spaces or did that come natural to you after having

438
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: you know, so much success as a songwriter and a

439
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 2: producer fincause? But then go back in terms of an artist,

440
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 2: what was that term like for you? And then how

441
00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: did you move how did you move on from that? Why?

442
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I'm an archetect of

443
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: what I do. I know how to take a little

444
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: bit from this, a little bit from that, a little

445
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: bit from that, and make it something great. And it

446
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: never leads you. We're all still that three year old

447
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: boy that was inside of us. You just grow and

448
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: you don't leave it. It doesn't go away from you.

449
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: You remember the first time you scratch your knee and

450
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: I got that mark on it. It's still there. It's just

451
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: how you make it evolve. It's how your maturity is

452
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: and how great you want to be. Like Quincy Jones

453
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: was great, I want to be great study of the great,

454
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 1: so you can be greater and never forget that if

455
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: God didn't give it to you, you wouldn't have it.

456
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 1: It's there for a reason. But never get so cocky

457
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: at the same time where you forget about human connection.

458
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: And I've always understood that tank like I'm for the people.

459
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: That's why I've been so humble my whole life, Like

460
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: I want to do the work. I can care less

461
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: about the other stuff. And unfortunately we don't live in

462
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: a world where that's like cool anymore. But I want

463
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: to make the records. I want to make the songs.

464
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: I want to make the artist. I want to see

465
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: a Jojo when she's eleven years old and discover her,

466
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: or see a guy guy when she's twenty three years old.

467
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: And discover her. Jojo eleven years old? Where do you

468
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: see her?

469
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 3: How?

470
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: Jojo was on a show called America's Most Talented Kids.

471
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 1: She lost the show. I'm in Andre Herrel's office in

472
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: Santa Monica. A friend of mine called me, named James

473
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: god rest Is, so his adventure. Should hear this little girl?

474
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: I said, all right, bring it bybe this is where

475
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm at. I hear, fall in love with her, immediately

476
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: take her to a few other people. Everybody passed. Everybody

477
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh, she's this, this, and that. Meet with Barry.

478
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: He's in his house, the shades are dark. He falls

479
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: in love with her and say, you just save my family.

480
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: From the first meeting.

481
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: Yes, he got it at Hello because Barry told me

482
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: from day one, not the name drop again. But when

483
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: I discovered and put dream together and did that deal

484
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: with Puffy before Little White Girls, Barry said, Evince, And

485
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: next time you find an artist, come do to deal

486
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: with me. I promise You'a'll be fair with you. Next

487
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: artist I found with Jojo, I have to dream.

488
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 2: This is great, worked on that, this is so good,

489
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 2: This is so good. I just I love what I do. Guys,

490
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: I'm still in this Jojo.

491
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: JoJo's eleven years old. We make what I feel like

492
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: was an incredible, great pop up. I mean, she's eleven

493
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: years old, so you got to be crafty about the

494
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: songs you're gonna make. Is it too old? Is it

495
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: too young? We do this song called leave Get Out.

496
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: She hates this song. I'm like, Yojo, this fits you.

497
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: But what I love about her is she sung everything.

498
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: And you got people like Jojo. You got people like Joe,

499
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: you got people like Coco, you got people like Tamar,

500
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: they sing so good you think everything's a hit?

501
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, to cheat with bad lyrics and.

502
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: My brother Bible. Like my brother, you'd be like, Tank,

503
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: that's not a good lyric, Bro, You're like, yes it is.

504
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: He's like, listen to it.

505
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: He's like, well you sound good good exactly. But everybody

506
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: can't do that.

507
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

508
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

509
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: Joseph Mass said that. I'm like, don't send me a

510
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: demo because it's over ball in love with it and

511
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that it's a great song. But you

512
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: just sung it out out the moon. Yeah you know

513
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. You just said that. But Jojo was

514
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: she was a special man. I took her to school

515
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: when she started sixth grade in Jersey. You took her

516
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: to school. We just started sixth grade, Yeah, walk her

517
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: to school in Edgewater. She cried, she was mad, she

518
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: was frustrated, like, look, you got to do this because

519
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: we had to go through the whole court approval then.

520
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

521
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she did not want to do that. She

522
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: was like, this is not fair. I don't know these kids.

523
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: That's where her and Eddie Levert's son becomes super cool

524
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: and become best friends because they went to school together

525
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: to school in Edward and he was inspired singing too.

526
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: But Jojo was special, man. She was just one of

527
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: the most incredible little artists I ever met in my life.

528
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: She still was the youngest artist to ever have a

529
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: number one record on Top forty radio, get nominated for

530
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: MTV Music Award, and sell over five million albums on

531
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: that first debut album.

532
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: Out the Gate five ams.

533
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: Her first tour she opened up for US in Japan.

534
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: Pick shout out to Mark She my man even help

535
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: me make that happen. But yeahs just like you gotta

536
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: see things before the world see you.

537
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: Was that the Okay? You had done a lot of

538
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: stuff up until then, right, But I know what five

539
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: million records on the executive side looks like. I know

540
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: what that looks like. What had that been your biggest

541
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 2: payday up until that point?

542
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: That was my biggest payday because Barry did a great

543
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: deal with me, and he made me understand what profit

544
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: participation means.

545
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, that's.

546
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: Why I could never do nothing but show that man

547
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: respect and love because he changed my life. It wasn't

548
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: about eighteen point seventeen points twenty point Rosy. It was

549
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: about when we make dollar one.

550
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 3: You make dollar one, real partnership, real participation.

551
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: And that you can't pay for. And up to that

552
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: point I didn't learn that. I was like, Oh, here's

553
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars, go in and produce the record. You

554
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: gotta pay for engineering, you gotta pay for studio, you

555
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: gotta pay for that. I like, what is this. That's

556
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: why I got to the point where I was like, oh,

557
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: so this is the other side of the business, don't

558
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I love producing, but this is better. Financial

559
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: economics makes more sense here, So this is what I

560
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: need to be doing. So that's just like, you know,

561
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: that's just something that you learn by applying yourself to

562
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: be around the right people. You can't learn greatness unless

563
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: you're around greatness. And I still feel like Barry Doug Morris,

564
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: Jimmy Ivean, Tommy Mattola, Clive Davis. I learned greatness from

565
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: those guys.

566
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: All.

567
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: I take something from all of them and become who

568
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: I am. And none of them ever told me to

569
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: just do this kind of music, got that kind of

570
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: music whatever I felt. Those guys all support me. Like Clyive,

571
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: we had a group called Into You the Guys Act Crazy.

572
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: It was bugging out Clive's events. Put another group together,

573
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: I said, Clive, but you haven't even seen them, he said,

574
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 1: I don't care if I've seen them. I see you.

575
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to do.

576
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 3: I see you. How are you deciding where you were

577
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: taking projects? Because you had so many relationships early on, right,

578
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: because before I had met you, which I can't even

579
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: I can't even count how many years i've known you.

580
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: At this point, I've known you my whole adult life.

581
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: I feel like that's crazy. And you were known as

582
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: the guy who had business everywhere because, as you said,

583
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: you literally threw out all the top label executives at

584
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: that time. And they're more obviously, but you had business

585
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: with all of them. Like, how were you because because

586
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: that's another thing, right, because we all know once you

587
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: get you get that first hit, or you get that

588
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: first project that pops, everybody's coming. So how were you

589
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: deciding as an executive? Okay, this fits here.

590
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: I feel like early on in my career I was

591
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: very likable because I didn't want to do the BS.

592
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: I didn't want to screw nobody over. I didn't want

593
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: to BS. I didn't want to be at your party.

594
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: I didn't want to hang out with you. I wanted

595
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: to do to work. So all those guys respected me.

596
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: So when when I called their phone, they picked up

597
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: the phone. So if I called Clyde first and he

598
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: picked up the phone and I said a meaning for him,

599
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm want to see him if I called when I

600
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: when I got down to meeting Doug. When I met Doug,

601
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: me and Doug were like two pieces of the pott.

602
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: I was my guy. When I met Doug and Doug

603
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: told me, he said, Vince, who do you want to

604
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: work with? In my building? I said, I want to

605
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: work with Jimmy Ivan because I had never worked with Jimmy.

606
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: Doug calls Jimmy on the phone, Jimmy, what are you doing?

607
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: I guess he was still home in the baby say

608
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: get out the bed, come to the office right now.

609
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: I had three little girls called the Click Girls and

610
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: God got the same time. I signed both of those

611
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: artists the same day, and Doug said, Vince, this is

612
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: what you want to do. He said, Jimmy, this is

613
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We're gonna work with Vince. And

614
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: that's how that relationship happened. And Doug said, never go

615
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: to the parties. Never hang out, do the work. I've

616
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: never been to one of Jimmy and Ivan's parties. And

617
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: we've had the most successful career I ever had in

618
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: my life. Oh yeah, I've never been to his house

619
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: to a party. I've never been to his house for

620
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: an Easter party. There's a certain amount respect and never.

621
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what the Christmas party looked like. I

622
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: can't even do that.

623
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: I have my daughter.

624
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: I was like, she got to see this, that's fright,

625
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: and you did. To be honest, I did that at

626
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: my house with my son. I brought to know in

627
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: LA because it's like when you get around stuff, you

628
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: see it and you understand it. But I just never

629
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: wanted to be in the club. And Doug said, don't

630
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: be in the club. He said, they'll respect you more

631
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: if you're not in the club. Never went to one

632
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: basketball game with Jimmy, Ivan, none of that. When I

633
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: when I put Jimmy's name on my record with me

634
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 1: and Gaga, he said, Vince, take my name off that

635
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm betting on you. I don't know what this is.

636
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: So how does the how does the A Kon connection

637
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: come in?

638
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: A Kon worked with Jimmy so Jimmy brought Akon and

639
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: to take Ga Gay to clubs and do stuff like that.

640
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: And Akon had a good relationship with Red One. But

641
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: I discovered Goga. I meet Goga. You can go to

642
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: the clip that I'm doing with Netflix and got God

643
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: tell you. If there's anyone that should raise their hand

644
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: for the reason that Go Go is here, it should

645
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: be him. But he would never do it. And it's

646
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: no disrespect. That just is what on R and B

647
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: Money podcast, I'm telling the world, like Vincent Herbert discovered

648
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: and made Lady Goga. You can call it. You can

649
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: go look the facts, you can pull it up. It

650
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: is what it is. It just is. You know, my

651
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: friend named Rob who sorry called me. He said, venture

652
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: you should hit his girl. Sit me a song on

653
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: my Space. The next day, I call my friend Joelne

654
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: put Gaga on a plane. First time she went for

655
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: a business class for to La. She had a pair

656
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: of fish netstockings, a bra, some panties and a blazer on.

657
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: She said at the piano she couldnot dance yet at

658
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: that time, and I said, I want to sign you.

659
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: She said, I want to sign with you. What I

660
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: got to meet with Sylvia I'll be right back. Sent

661
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: to go work with Lorianne Gibson, the teacher how to

662
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: dance in choreography. Lone calls me back and she goes.

663
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: She goes, muffin, She doesn't have it.

664
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: She cap with a butt.

665
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: I said, LG. Go back in that room and let

666
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: her do it. Again, said she has it. Trust me.

667
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: She said, Okay, brother, I'm going to listen to you,

668
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: but I don't see it. I said, You're never got

669
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: to see what I see. But trust me. Here we

670
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: are again. One hundred and seventy million albums later, she

671
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: has it. Yeah, it's incredible.

672
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: How do you what is? What is your mind? Whose

673
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: mind is? Of course you discovered her, of course, but

674
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: as you go into staging and you go into the

675
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: nuances of the artists, the the the styling and just

676
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: working together.

677
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: We used to have meetings on Wednesdays, myself, LG. God, God,

678
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: Troy and we would sit there and brainstorm.

679
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: But you guys were brainstorming because you have that out

680
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: of this world like you see.

681
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: It before it's done toek And that's what that's why

682
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: we have so many generic artists now, like you have

683
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: to be able to go wow, this Mic can be

684
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: on this stand and be flexible like this. Where is

685
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: the consistence of hard work. No one does it anymore.

686
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: Everybody wants it to be served up on a platter

687
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: and give them to them. No, we did the word.

688
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: There's plenty of times that I When god Go was

689
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: doing Just Dance, she calls. She's like, Vince, I'm almost

690
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: finished the song. I said, don't print nothing. I'm coming

691
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: to the studio right now. Go to record plan. Hear

692
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: the song. That's why you hear do that just dance?

693
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: I was like, don't put them all lyrics songs done.

694
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: You gotta be in it. You gotta be in it,

695
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: you gotta feel it. Gota is a very dope vision

696
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: area as well. Can't take that from her. And we

697
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: had an incredible hell of a team.

698
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 2: That's why I was going to say, that's.

699
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: What that's like the construction of y'all team. And that's

700
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: and that's ultimately what led to the first question. Even

701
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: with a coon being involved, all of those things married

702
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: together made a different type of magic.

703
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it made something that will never be made again.

704
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: Even though in my back pocket, I feel like I

705
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: got the next guy goy, just like I told Jimmy

706
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: I had the next Madonna. You always striving for better

707
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: and higher because that's what I do. I'm not I'm

708
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: not coming out to play unless I'm ready to fucking win,

709
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: coming out just to show up. Because our business, we

710
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: get together. Everybody lied to each other, have a good

711
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: you know, you see each other, and you don't never

712
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: We got to stop that. It's ludicrous. It's crazy, Like,

713
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: how do we think our business has gotten to the

714
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: place where it is now? Where when you go and

715
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: you look at the landscape and the color and the

716
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: shape of our business, you don't see in all black

717
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: R and B department.

718
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 3: You don't don't You don't see the pop department being

719
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: the new Steve Berman's and the new Jimmy I Beans

720
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: and a new Brenda Romano's.

721
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: You don't see that. You It's it's lost. Everyone thinks

722
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: they can do it because of technology. Technology don't make

723
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: you feel that record. That record makes you feel that record.

724
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: You gotta feel it, you gotta understand it. Yeah, you

725
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: gotta spill the analytics like, oh my god, I'm so

726
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: glad you said that. I don't care about a number.

727
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: If you want to work with me, I don't care.

728
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: If you got one number one one stream, if you

729
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: got the integrity and the passion and the perseverance and

730
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: the words to say yes and thank you, let's go

731
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: make history. Other than that, it doesn't matter because God,

732
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: God didn't have one of those things, none of it.

733
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: No jo Jo didn't have none of those things. Tamar

734
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: had six record deals before she met me, and she's

735
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: still touring and still working and doing what she does

736
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: on one album. It's just how passionate do you want

737
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: to be about your job? And we all say, oh,

738
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: we want to do this, we want to do it, Dode,

739
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: we really want to do the work. Doug Morris bought

740
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy Evans labeled twice for two hundred million dollars twice.

741
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: And then.

742
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: What Doug Morris what Jimmy and Ivans labeled twice for

743
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars.

744
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 3: It was dak kracking.

745
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: At Atlantic after they said it was too hip hop

746
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: and in this whatever whatever. Then they left went the

747
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Universal ducks our Universe over there with Vivindi and then

748
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: he bought the company again. But again I say that

749
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: to say, look how those people work together. Yeah, we

750
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: don't do that, but then we can plan and we

751
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: hate on each other. We talk about each other, and

752
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: we disrespect each other just by the mere fact of

753
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: like putting each other down. Like all my relationships. I

754
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: want to see y'all have all my relationships, because that's

755
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: how you propel success. That's how you grow. You don't

756
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: grow by, you know, keeping crabs in a barrel. That

757
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: doesn't get us anywhere. It's not fair, it's so wrong. Like,

758
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: think about how much they bought the Face Records for.

759
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: Think about how much they brought Deaf Jam Records for.

760
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: To think about what Doug paid for Jimmy's label Night

761
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: and Day.

762
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you.

763
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: Can sit here, We can sit in here and be

764
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: totally honest with each other. The Face Records is probably

765
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: one of the greatest labels of all the time. I

766
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: can sit here and say I can name about five

767
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: or six artists. That's so ten main albums, Superstars, Super Outcast,

768
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: Tony Braxton, TLC. It's ridiculous. Yeah. I worked on a

769
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: Boomerang soundtrack too.

770
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, just in case you didn't know.

771
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: That the case. So I did a remix for the

772
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: Tony Braxton song LA used my drums and then we

773
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: had we fixed it we all cleared it all up.

774
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: You know, all the production. I love La. This is

775
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: my guy, shout out to La. But my drums, you

776
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But we fixed it. But again

777
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: that he was like thins. It was so good. The

778
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: production was so incredible. I just my record had to

779
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: sound like that. But that's that competitism, you know what

780
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean that you can't be mad at that. Yeah,

781
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: you can't be upset. I wasn't mad. Was okay cool,

782
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: And we talked about it and we fixed it absolutely.

783
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 2: How much I get exactly? Let me see the split sheet.

784
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 3: Wow.

785
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: Tony Braxx is another one hard worker. Did how many

786
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: ways on her first album Myself.

787
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: How many ways?

788
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: I love that song?

789
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: Again, these songs when I would do this stuff, I

790
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: would always have a hook to the song. So the

791
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: lyrics wasn't done yet, but the track was done, the

792
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: melody was done, the hook was done. Brian Reid called me,

793
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: he said, we love it, we want to cut it.

794
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: Went went down to Atlanta cut the record. After we

795
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: finished the record, when it had Chinese food. I remember

796
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: these things like a clear day, because these moments you

797
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: can't forget it. Our Kelly came in, did the remix

798
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: same thing with No No No brought and produced that

799
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: song at the single Why Cleft came and did the remix,

800
00:39:52,800 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: My brother from Jersey.

801
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: You did great work, work that stood the test of time.

802
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: So it's a testament to everything you're saying in terms

803
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: of the work and the heart and soul that was

804
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: put into it. Like to me, that is that is

805
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: the separator.

806
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I'm one of one and I know it,

807
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: and I'm comfortable with saying it now. It took me

808
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: a long time to get comfortable in my skin because

809
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm a very reserved, laid back, shy person. And God,

810
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: God was events. You did this. Don't be afraid to

811
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: stand in what you did.

812
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: This is your If it's somebody I can tell you

813
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: to jump out into your life's God got.

814
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: Even down to mindless behavior.

815
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, behavior.

816
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: Jimmy just said, events, do whatever you want. Those guys

817
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: were selling out five thousand sitars four and three times

818
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: a week with no record at radio, no record, no

819
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: record at radio. I put a telephone number in the

820
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: video that we were getting seventy five to fifty thousand

821
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: calls a day to an ante machine pandemonia. So you

822
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 1: see the research. Now you go to TikTok. My olins

823
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: behavior is in the top ten right now today. Shout

824
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: out to Walton Millset, my partner on that project.

825
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: O my god.

826
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but it's just all of those things,

827
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: Like look, man, I can't wait till I'm able to

828
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: teach my class and educate people on what it really takes.

829
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: Because it's just the it factor. You just got to

830
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: know it and you don't know it, you know what

831
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, you guys knew that this was needed.

832
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: This is an it factor. No one else is doing this,

833
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: and if they try, it's not to this level and

834
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: not to this magnitude because it's something that you guys

835
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: birthed and you know what you're talking about Like this

836
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: to me, Like I was talking to Chris when were

837
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: talking about doing the show. He was like, Oh, I

838
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: can't believe they want me to do that show. Vince,

839
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: what do you feel about that? I'm like, it's a

840
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: great show, Chris, You're gonna kill it. You guys are

841
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: given people opportunities that tell their story on a platform

842
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: when you could make it all about yourself. Even gonna

843
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: still tune in and watch because it's fun. It's great,

844
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: it's cool, it's information and you guys are doing it

845
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: at a high level. But no one's you can't come

846
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: back and do you know it's a lot of podcasts,

847
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: a lot of shows going on. This show is different,

848
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: Thank you man. No, I mean I want I know

849
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: they ever catch me with the BS, I cannot bullshit.

850
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to lie to you. I'm not in

851
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: that place. I just like the truth. That's why I

852
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: don't talk too much because the truth don't always fit

853
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: with everybody. You guys are doing something great, and I

854
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: think the more that we stretch that greatness and make

855
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: it diverse. And you got these people and like we

856
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: didn't get to get him too many on this podcast

857
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: before he passed away. I got from that guy just

858
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: hanging up with that guy or Cool from cooling the game.

859
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, those.

860
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: Are my neighbors. Used to go in the basement and

861
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: play the bass when Cool was out of town.

862
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: That's crazy, is that man?

863
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: When Cool was out of town.

864
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, me and Harkanes to go down there the States

865
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: to have lit speaker that was like tall as tall

866
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: as you and you just plug plugging, plug up the

867
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: bass or whatever. Yeah, it's just incredible. But that is

868
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: like what we're missing and being able to have that

869
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: ability to touch those things, find those things, be a

870
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: part of those things. Like everybody today, it's like and

871
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: again I said it before and I hate to repeat myself,

872
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: but it's so novelty, like we have to get past that.

873
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: People want to feel something, man, That's why the first

874
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: people that make them this Kyle Lotte record. Love this record.

875
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: She's inspired by beyond by brand.

876
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: You can feel it, absolutely, absolutely, you can feel it.

877
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: She's not away from it, and she's she's embraced helling exactly.

878
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: How many people do that, Like that's so many. I'm

879
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: so proud of her for doing that because she's actually

880
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 1: being honest about her craft and her work like this

881
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: is this is mind blowing with y'all age what I'm

882
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: telling you.

883
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 3: Vince, I remember talking to you. I think I want

884
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: to say it was the studio that we all shared

885
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: with Harvey off of Now that's the second one, off

886
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: of violin.

887
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: Which one was that one.

888
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 3: That was the old track? And you were like, Shay,

889
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: I'm getting into film and television And I was like, okay,

890
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: right in which and you said the Braxtons they need

891
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: to be on TV. And at this point Tony Braxton

892
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 3: is very reserved. She doesn't she's you know, she's Tony Braxton.

893
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 3: And this isn't the time where Tony Braxton goes and

894
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 3: does a reality television show. And I'm like, you're gonna

895
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: get Tony Braxton.

896
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: Dude, took me about seven months a convincer.

897
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 3: And you were like, Jay, it's gonna be great. It's

898
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: gonna be great.

899
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: Seven months of convincer because television at that time, to

900
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: me is like the reality world. Tamar woke up one

901
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: day was like, Yo, we should do a reality show

902
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: in my family. That's how it happened. And I went

903
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: and like everything, I'm not gonna lose. Let go make

904
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: it happen. And Tony was like, I don't know if

905
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: we should do it. Da da da da, and plus

906
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: her soul, she did it and it changed everybody's life,

907
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: Like they all have got this. It's the longest running

908
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: African American show in the history of television.

909
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 3: Are you serious?

910
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: Yes?

911
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: Wow, yes, congratulations, go practice yes, go.

912
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: I spent one point two million dollars of my own

913
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: money to make that show.

914
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: So you shot it. I paid for it and paid

915
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: for it, yes, before it was ever asked oh wow, yes.

916
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: You can't talk about stuff and don't do something. Believe

917
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: it him and I know you can't. You can't just

918
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: be like, oh I got decided, No, go execute it,

919
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: and go execute it. Let's not talk about this being

920
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: don't prove exactly same thing with the Talk show with

921
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: the Real with Tamar. That was that was we'd started

922
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: that show with Tamar being a new young Wendy Williams,

923
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: and then we sat down, we met with every production

924
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: company and fell in love with Telepictures and they were like, oh,

925
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: we want to put the show on the on the Internet.

926
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: I said, well, she's already on two different televisions. I

927
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: said that's not going to work for me. So they

928
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: were like, so what do you want to do and

929
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: we said, well, let's make an ensemble and then they

930
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: was be like, so Tamorrow, who do you want on?

931
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: That show was at the Beverly Hills Hotel. I'll never

932
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: forget it, Tamar said. Adrian Bylawn and Tamara and then

933
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: Telepictures had deals with Lannie and with Jenny, but it

934
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: was Tamar's idea.

935
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: I still have a picture and nominated backstage I still

936
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 3: got a picture backstage, so wild at Ship is when

937
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: he did the show and it's you Lashawn Daniels, Wow

938
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: and uh so and little Chicken Hawk, Geni, y nephew

939
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: and y'all all have on I'm seeing it in my head.

940
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: I got on black shirts and camouflage shorts.

941
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: I remember that day. I was like, who didn't get

942
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:13,959
Speaker 1: the number?

943
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 3: All y'all have on the same fit, And I'm like,

944
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: I gotta take a picture.

945
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: Yep, I remember that.

946
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: Yep. It's like I have to take this picture.

947
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: I remember that day so clearly.

948
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: So how does if you can get into that, how

949
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: does that show go from being y'all show to someone

950
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 3: else's show?

951
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: Because if you don't own the IP, it's someone else's show,

952
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: bottom line. But again, education, knowledge will make you understand that.

953
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: And I don't get mad if things don't go the

954
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: right way the first time. He won't go the wrong

955
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: way the second time because I'm gonna learn. But owning

956
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: your IP is everything. That's why I say, like, I

957
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: really want to educate and bring people to understand our business. Like,

958
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: you know, we get this whole thing about out the

959
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: masters and the you know, the public, like it's First

960
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: of all, it just sounds racist, like the master masters

961
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: and the slave.

962
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it bothers me.

963
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: I just don't talk about it. But it's crazy.

964
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I mean that was done purposely.

965
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just so wrong.

966
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: You know.

967
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: But you've got to be educated about your business. You

968
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: have to understand your business. You can't blame someone else.

969
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: You have to know one plus one equals to every day. Yeah,

970
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: it's not going to change, not going to go away.

971
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: It is what it is. But we have to be

972
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: willing to allow ourself to not just be creative, but

973
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: understand the business. It's called the music businesses.

974
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

975
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: For me, what you said, what you just said is

976
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: that in terms of I mean not making any excuses

977
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 2: because I think we live in a space where we're

978
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: not going to let anybody or anything dictate and stare

979
00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 2: us away from our goal.

980
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: Mm hm, you know what I mean.

981
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: And so what are maybe some of the some of

982
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: the pitfalls and some of the things that you ran

983
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: into to where you know, you you really had to

984
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: buckle down and say, you know.

985
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: I think Russian.

986
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: No patience.

987
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: At first, You're so excited sign anything, do anything, just

988
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: because you want to be in it still a business.

989
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: That's the number one thing I tell people, like you know,

990
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: it's not about finding the best, biggest lawyer that you

991
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: think it is. Find somebody that's dedicated to you. To you,

992
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: it's like being in a relationship with a man or

993
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: a woman like you want somebody that you can bet on,

994
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: that's going to bet on you, that's going to be

995
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: there when you need them. And our business, you know,

996
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: making mistakes going to happen continuously, but it's how you

997
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: recover from a mistake and really being able to take

998
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: accountability for the mistake, knowing that, oh I did this

999
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: this time, I'm not going to do this this time again,

1000
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 1: and it's okay.

1001
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 3: Mm hm.

1002
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: My deal with Jojo wasn't my deal that I met

1003
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: with Gag. Totally different night and day that you learned,

1004
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: you learned, and I learned, and I learned. I grew

1005
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: from my deal with Puffy with Dream to my deal

1006
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: with Barry with Jojo to my deal with Doug and

1007
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy with Gaga is totally different.

1008
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 3: So you had an even better deal. As for the

1009
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: guy got deal, absolutely that she tells one hundred and

1010
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: seventy million.

1011
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, you're supposed to do better.

1012
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: Yes, you're supposed to grow and you but you only

1013
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: grow by make a mistake if you go through those

1014
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: things exactly.

1015
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: And then you understand too that you know, there's so

1016
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: much money in our business, Like I want to encourage

1017
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: people to go look at uncollected funds. You might have

1018
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: changed your lawyer, you might have changed your accountant. You

1019
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: got so much money just sitting there, but no one

1020
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: tells you.

1021
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that, because there's this false narrative

1022
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 3: that goes around about there's no money in music. Oh

1023
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 3: my god, don't let these people lie to you. They're

1024
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 3: lying to you, and don't let them fool you because

1025
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: they also don't want you to go look for the

1026
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: money exactly, and they don't want you to get the

1027
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 3: money and make the right deal.

1028
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: You are one step away from changing your life every

1029
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: single day.

1030
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 3: Only thing you can hit the line is this close

1031
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: thing to the lottery. We say that all the time.

1032
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: It's what you want to put into it is what

1033
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: you will get.

1034
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: Out of it any day. I love that too, love

1035
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 3: what I do because everybody won't admit that.

1036
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about finding the new artists because it's

1037
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: like okay cool. Anybody can come work with a God

1038
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: gouy now I make got go. Anybody can come work

1039
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: with Destiny and Beyonce. I gave him a first hit, right.

1040
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: Anybody can come work with Tony Braxton. I was on

1041
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: the first outm Me and Pisala was the only other

1042
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: producers besides Baby facing La on that whole album. So

1043
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: it's those things that you know you forget like those,

1044
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: It's better than any award, any Grammy, any play, like

1045
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: you actually gave birth to something, create something like that's

1046
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: like phenomenal. Joe Joking the work with whoever she went.

1047
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: I found you when you were eleven, when I have

1048
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: to used to go buy you sweatsuits and get your

1049
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: clothes change for us to go to meetings. I saw

1050
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: that in you, the Little black Man from Nork, New Jersey.

1051
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: I saw that, and I love it because I saw

1052
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: something in you where I was helped able to help

1053
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: you get your talent.

1054
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 3: To the world. That's incredible.

1055
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: That's just incredible.

1056
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 3: I want to make sure I say something though, because

1057
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 3: this is something that you know that and it's off topic,

1058
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: but I like to make sure. So when I was

1059
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 3: explaining that picture, I always want to make sure I

1060
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: give everybody their life. So shout out to my young

1061
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 3: boy Chris, I called me. We called him chicken Hawk.

1062
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 3: I don't think you like Yeah, but we don't still

1063
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: call it we uns, so we're gonna call it. But

1064
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 3: I want to make sure I said his name though,

1065
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because that's the other thing too,

1066
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 3: And just in connected and just listening to you and

1067
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 3: the way you tell your story and the way that

1068
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: you always make sure that everybody that's been a part

1069
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: of it you speak about them.

1070
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: It's enough room for everybody.

1071
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1072
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: The only people that don't do that are the insecurity

1073
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: people that want you to feel like it's all about

1074
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: them when they did that. No, Jesus Christ had disciples.

1075
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't just him making bread and making wine. He

1076
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: had disciples to work and help him. We all need somebody, absolutely.

1077
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: And the things that you spoke about of all, what

1078
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 3: I've noticed is all your your stuff has been collaborative efforts.

1079
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: Even you know, a lot of people don't know about

1080
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: you as three boys from Newark, you know what I mean.

1081
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: I forget about that sometimes. Shout out to Kaymic Griffin,

1082
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: that was my guy that produced a lot of those

1083
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: records with me back in the day. Gosh to take

1084
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: the bus to path train, have ten dollars in my

1085
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: pocket to get to New York, to get a hot

1086
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: dog and some the drink, go to my meeting and

1087
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: get back to Jersey.

1088
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 3: The grind, the grind.

1089
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: My mom died when I was twelve, and my life changed.

1090
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: It's like you just grow up, you know. And my

1091
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: dad died soon thereafter, and my dad would always say,

1092
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: I just want to go be with your mom. And

1093
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: it just made me work hard.

1094
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 3: I grew.

1095
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: I became a man at twelve years old, you know.

1096
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: And I'm never the person to sit here and go

1097
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm perfect. I did this, I did that. But at

1098
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I worked my ass off.

1099
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: No one gave me nothing. Everything that I've accomplished in

1100
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: life I work for and I love it, and I

1101
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: love it that way, and I want to change it

1102
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: for nothing in the world. It's just the thing that

1103
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 1: makes you want to work harder is you know you're

1104
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: working for it, and you got to be accountablefore weather

1105
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: goes bad, right, left, wrong, It's just it is what

1106
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: it is.

1107
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now you've you've been an inspiration for all of us,

1108
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 3: bro And I don't know if I've ever told you that.

1109
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: There was a time I remember you you called me.

1110
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 3: You said, oh, you know, in your tone, yeah, doing

1111
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: a little doing a little like birthday celebration thing. That's

1112
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: just just come by. So I'm like, all right, you know,

1113
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: I gotta go by Van's crib. And I can tell

1114
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: you I think everybody knows about me. I don't go everywhere.

1115
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 3: I know that I go places where where the love

1116
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 3: is right. And I'm like, got real love for Vince.

1117
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: I'm pulling up, get up, you know, let me get

1118
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: a nice little bottle to take to his house, right

1119
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: because I had never been there at this point. So

1120
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: I get to Vince's house and he had the house

1121
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: that didn't end. I don't know if people know about

1122
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: those types of of the states. And I had my

1123
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: little bottle, and you know, I put it on the table.

1124
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 3: Then I looked over and it was like a thousand

1125
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 3: of the second bottles.

1126
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, all right, cool.

1127
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 3: And then I get to the backyard and it's on

1128
00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 3: football field, and I'm like, he did it. He did

1129
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: it because, like I said, I've known you for so

1130
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: many years and I've watched the continuous growth in your

1131
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: career and to see someone that I looked at as

1132
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 3: my brother and my peer in this thing that we

1133
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 3: call music and to see you get to that level

1134
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, this is inspiring because it's therefore because

1135
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: I know Vince, this is not oh I'm watching Eddie

1136
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 3: Murphy on TV. I don't know Eddie Murphy Mury, but

1137
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 3: I don't know it. I know Vince. I've watched Vince

1138
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 3: go from meeting the meeting. I've watched Vince tell me

1139
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 3: about this artist and that artist, and some that worked.

1140
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 4: And some that didn't, and more more more more that didn't.

1141
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 3: And to see this man in this space, I was like,

1142
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 3: this is amazing.

1143
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: And then another thing too. I want us to pay

1144
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: attention to our publishing game so important. Shout out to

1145
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: the interns. I signed him when nobody knew that.

1146
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 3: Ye.

1147
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: So all those records, God forget kkkkk uh in.

1148
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 3: The kind of everything's about as.

1149
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: Him, the Big Seawan record, it was all a part

1150
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: of my publish and catalog. It's the Fine China record.

1151
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: I signed that kid that did that record. But it's

1152
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: just important to understand that have vision, you know, to

1153
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,479
Speaker 1: be loud, but she going to your.

1154
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: Work, he said, small sneaky, not sneaky, No, no, no,

1155
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: not sneaky in a bad sit when you see it though, Yeah,

1156
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: you gotta have the.

1157
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: Eye to day was the best way. You can't sit

1158
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: there and be like, oh, oh boys talented. Let me

1159
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: let Paul and Peter come know.

1160
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: What you do quick? What's going on with you? What

1161
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 3: you need?

1162
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely get your right.

1163
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: Shout out to my man Felly who did the Usher record.

1164
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, super dope. He's incredible.

1165
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: Kind assigned him at Hello. Good guy was very excited

1166
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: to me me. I was excited to meet him. I'm like, no, man,

1167
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: go get a different deal. But you just have to

1168
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: be able to know. Now I work with him on

1169
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: a regular It's just about two records on Chris's album,

1170
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: but you just gotta know, like nobody would ever thought

1171
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: the kid that did find China would be the guy

1172
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: who did that record. I want to talk to everybody.

1173
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: I want to turn over every rock because that's the

1174
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: only way you find it. You just never know where

1175
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: it's going to be.

1176
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: So you're still actively looking for talent, looking for writers, producers, artists, everything.

1177
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm still in the music business. Yes, yeah, So I'm

1178
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: in everything this music. I don't let nothing else get

1179
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: in the way of that, because at the end of

1180
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: the day, is still about a great song and a

1181
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: great artist. Never gonna change. We can have Ai, we

1182
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: can have just Left Eye whatever, Bi, it doesn't matter.

1183
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: You still got to have a record that emotion connects

1184
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: with people, and you still got to find an artist

1185
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: that can deliver those records.

1186
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: AI hasn't felt that because I want to see it

1187
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: lies exactly. I need to see it.

1188
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: You want to go to one of the greatest shows

1189
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: on earth, which is Chris Brown. Phenomenal.

1190
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 3: That's then actual person.

1191
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: I don't think AI can do what Chris Brown did

1192
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: when I saw that show.

1193
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: I just watched Usher roller skating scene.

1194
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: Unbelievable, unbelievable. Oh, by the way, I worked on Usher's

1195
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: very first album too. You know, just like just love

1196
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: what I do, love what I do, think, love what

1197
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: I But I got to tell my stories. I gotta

1198
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: tell my.

1199
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: Kids talking the story.

1200
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I just love what I

1201
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: do and I and I've never ever been this vocal

1202
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: in my life, and I'm liking the vents and that's talking,

1203
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, like it's it's okay, it's it's nothing.

1204
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: Wrong with because there has to be, respect has to

1205
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: be and we.

1206
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: Got to tell the truth.

1207
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 3: And I'm glad when we see you outside and you pulled

1208
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 3: up on us in Miami. You have to do it, I.

1209
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: Said, I said, take it is that it That was

1210
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: all because you know, people be wanting to go outside

1211
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: in South You'll be wanting to go outside, So you

1212
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 1: just go outside, you know what I mean. But because

1213
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: it's like to me, I don't be liking the bs,

1214
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: and I can't stand when the people just like be

1215
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: lying about stuff like be honest, you're not gonna call me.

1216
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call you. Let's just say hi and

1217
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: keep it moving. Well, let's just listen to the music

1218
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: and keep it moving. But the other stuff is crazy.

1219
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: But I like when I said, I love going to

1220
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: where we can get along as people and enjoy good

1221
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: music and have a good time, and you know the

1222
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: cocktails of I mean, just enjoying life. Why can't we

1223
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: do that. Why can't we all just get along listener

1224
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: to our music. It makes the world go around. And

1225
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times what I've experienced too,

1226
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: when people haven't experienced is there's a big world out there.

1227
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: America is one place, but God got I got to

1228
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: go around the world ten times over. I got to

1229
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,479
Speaker 1: be in a room with thirty thousand people and guess what, y'all,

1230
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm the only black man.

1231
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: In the room.

1232
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: And this girl sits on stage and go If it

1233
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: wasn't for him, guys, the guy back there with behind

1234
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: the mic, behind the board, I wouldn't be here.

1235
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 3: Oh.

1236
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: We go to Lots of a Loser the first time,

1237
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: and it's her performer to be in my stage. And

1238
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: when she starts, there's about one hundred people. When she

1239
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: gets done, there's five people, myself, her mom, Tamar, and

1240
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: somebody else. And we come back and there's one hundred

1241
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: thousand people sinking every word. And she yells from the stage, Vince,

1242
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: what do you think about this?

1243
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: Ha?

1244
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: Ha? And me and Steve Burman just high five in

1245
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: each other. It's unbelievable. Man. I did that. I really

1246
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: did that. I really did that. I want people to

1247
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: know that you don't worry about how you look, who

1248
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: you are. You can do it too. But I've done that.

1249
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: I've cross the mountaintop in our business of success with artists,

1250
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: from Brown Zero. Nobody knew who A Gaga was when

1251
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: I started with people thought I was crazy. I thought

1252
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: I was crazy tank. They did not pay attention to it.

1253
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: Now everybody takes credit and want to do this, do that.

1254
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: I sit back and laugh. I wait for the Netflix

1255
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: pision to come out and I'll laugh again. But I

1256
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: did the work. What we're working on it now. It'll

1257
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: be out next year. But it's really really, it's really

1258
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: really special to me because it's something that covers, you know,

1259
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: some of the great people that I spoke about, from

1260
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: the Clive Davis to the Doug morris Is, to the Jimmys,

1261
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: to got God to marry to this one to that one,

1262
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: to Steve Stout. I mean, just so many people, and

1263
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: you really get to hear my story, like and I

1264
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 1: think that's an incredible thing. Not why I'm dead and gone,

1265
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: but actually hear it now. Yeah, Like Clarence Avon, great guy,

1266
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: Like I wish we had more time with him for

1267
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: his story. The times I sat with this guy at

1268
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: the Beverly Hills Hotel having Munch's unbelievable. This is incredible,

1269
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: his life, his story. I wish these kids could see

1270
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: that and understand the legacy of what really happens with

1271
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: these guys that have paved the way for us, and

1272
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: we don't pay enough homage to them. Like that's not cool.

1273
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta do better with that. We have

1274
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: to uplift each other and support each other. People have

1275
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: People should be calling y'all every week, like, Yo, can

1276
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: I get on the show? It's a safe platform. You

1277
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: get to tell you a story and it's not cut

1278
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: up and you doing thing. It's like, we got to

1279
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: get into that. We got it. We were missing out

1280
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: on so much of the happiness. I hate when people

1281
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: pass away. Everybody a picture up and oh I miss you.

1282
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: That drives me crazy and like did you call that

1283
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: man last week? Like just before I walked in here,

1284
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: I'll be sure on my phone, Like Vince, I want

1285
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: to work with what we're doing. Like that's what you

1286
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: want to hear, yep, Carl Thomas, Vince when we get together,

1287
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: when we working, Like these are guys that you want

1288
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: to see that you want to do it and it's possible.

1289
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: Shout out to Carl Thomas, Shout out to Total I

1290
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: did that too, you know, yeah, Total, yeah, me in faith,

1291
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: I can't even remember everything taken because it just comes

1292
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: to me out the blue. You know what I mean,

1293
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Speaker 1: I forget, I just do, but it just you know,

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01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: those things happened. Ed x Sign too, I forgot to

1295
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: mention ed ex Sign was the first person to give

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01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: me a remix on this group called Small Change. Pay

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01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: me twenty five hundred dollars for a remix? Never catch

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01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: the check?

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01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 3: Did you never cast it?

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01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: It was about the opportunity. It wasn't about the twenty

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01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: five dollars. I was like, I finally got my foot

1302
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: in Mercury Records and I was able to maneuver that

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01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: to who I am today. All I asks us for

1304
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: the opportunity, I'm gonna run through it. I'm good at that.

1305
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm a through it and run through it and run

1306
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: through it because I just want the opportunity. I just

1307
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: want to do the work. I ain't worried about the labels.

1308
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: I did the dumb stuff at twelve cars at one time.

1309
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 1: For what, I can't draw them all at the same time.

1310
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: The house she talking about was twenty five thousand square

1311
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: foot three acres of land. It doesn't make sense. It's like, okay, cool,

1312
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't even see my son in the playroom.

1313
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 2: It took you a while to get there. There in

1314
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: a minute, I'm on the way.

1315
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: But no, you learn and you live and you grow.

1316
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: And I hope that I can be a blessing to

1317
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: the new generation, to the old generation, people that I've

1318
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: never even spoke to, because I want to share my

1319
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: story and I want to share my information and I

1320
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: want to see people do better. Yeah, I really really

1321
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: really mean that, Like that's important to me, like not

1322
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: to just talk about it.

1323
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 2: I think thinking me and Jail I've always talked about

1324
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: especially when we have, like you know, legends sit here

1325
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: and and give this information and we've all been connected

1326
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 2: in so many ways. It's like, what is the what

1327
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 2: is the infrastructure where where we can do that very thing,

1328
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: where we can take care of these artists the way

1329
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: you took care of Jojo, the way you took care

1330
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 2: of god Goy, where we can show them the game

1331
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: and teach them the game, but also elevate them to

1332
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: a place to where now they can take that and

1333
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 2: run with it themselves. But what does that infrastructure look like?

1334
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 2: Because in between all of us, all these names you're

1335
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: saying all the night, but I mean we're all we're

1336
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 2: all connected. What does that infrastructure look like? How do

1337
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 2: we get there to where? You know, we're controlling that narrative.

1338
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: Because I want to definitely make sure that we help

1339
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: our elders have health insurance.

1340
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 2: Yes, in its business.

1341
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: It's like it drives me crazy, like to see these

1342
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: people suffer just because they can't afford to pay three

1343
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars a month for health insurance. When

1344
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: I got sick and I was in the hospital, my

1345
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: bill probably was way over two million dollars. I was

1346
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: sick for forty days. I was in the hospital. I

1347
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: was in a coma for five days. It was paralyzed

1348
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: from my neck down. When I came out, couldn't walk.

1349
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: And then I had to go through therapy for thirty

1350
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: days after that. All from flying too much. But we

1351
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: don't teach that, like they tell you to get on

1352
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: the plane and buckle up. Had seven massive.

1353
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: Blood clots from being in the air.

1354
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: From being in the air, flying on those private planes, wow,

1355
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: flying all over the world, the same thing I was

1356
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: in the hospital for. Heavy d died from. I was

1357
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: in the hospital when he died, watching it on the news,

1358
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: and that was my Guy Heavy and Teddy. I put

1359
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: both of them in the studio when I did God

1360
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: got a repack of her album and Teddy did this

1361
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: song called Teeth and have then finished his record whatever.

1362
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: But I've been passing it for it for a long time,

1363
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: just helping people and not talking about it. But those

1364
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: things that we have to fix, those things. Healthcare is

1365
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: so important because our world that we live in. You

1366
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: don't have it, you go to the hospital, dcend you

1367
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: somewhere else, or either you wind up sick and nine.

1368
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom.

1369
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: Was a nurse, so I really really paid attention that

1370
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: I said, if your pinky hurt, your body's talking to you.

1371
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 3: Pinky hurt, your body talking to you? Yeah, my shoulder.

1372
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1373
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 3: But no, No, there's so many things that we don't pay attention,

1374
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to that.

1375
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: Like a blood clot is the most silent killer of

1376
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: all time. Starts in your ankle, travels up to your leg,

1377
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: hits your heart, hit your lung, and then its lights

1378
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: out and you never even know it came, never knew

1379
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: it came.

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01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 3: Are there ways since you dealt with it? Are there

1381
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 3: ways that you that there are certain little signs though

1382
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 3: the other day.

1383
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: Like you said, you know, so it's something that happens

1384
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 1: and occurs in African American people, Asian people, and people

1385
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: of color more than Caucasian people. What we need to

1386
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: do is find out if it's something genetic, like if

1387
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: your family had it, it's you know, go to the doctor,

1388
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: follow up on that. But it's like when your body

1389
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: doesn't get enough oxygen. These little things called little rocks,

1390
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: they occur in your body. Those rocks are the blood cloths,

1391
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: and they travel and they hit those little things and

1392
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: it hits your lung, in your heart and yours out.

1393
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: But there's things that you can be aware if your

1394
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: body's like for me that whole day when it happened

1395
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: to me, it was in New York. We were doing

1396
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: an NBC special with Gaga, and our back was hurting

1397
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: all day and then I started getting shortens of breath

1398
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: and I said, let's go to the doctor. I went

1399
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: to the doctor. Thank god, I would listen to myself.

1400
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: He was like, you're having muscle spasms. Go home, take

1401
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: these pills and call me in. The more I got

1402
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: to the front door of his office, I told the driver,

1403
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: take me to the nearest hospital. Something don't feel right.

1404
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: And I got to the hospital and they was like, oh,

1405
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: we gotta get a profofall and we're going to induce

1406
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: you into this coma. And the guy in the hospital

1407
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: just off the rit Yeah, because they were massive. They

1408
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: can see the blood HUDs.

1409
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: They didn't see it.

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01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: No, he didn't see it at the office. No, I

1411
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: would have been dead if I listened to him. Mountain

1412
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: signat hospitals. Who saw it? Lady by the name of

1413
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: doctor maryam McLoughlin saved my life. I still go see

1414
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: it to this day. But she saw it. There was

1415
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: some young doctor in the hospital. He was like, oh,

1416
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: call your friends and family. He's not going to make it.

1417
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: Just after the second day in the hospital, you can

1418
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: hear him say that yes, s yes, got guy and

1419
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: Tamar found doctor Mary M McLaughlin and that lady saved

1420
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: my life. Well, that's why I'm still able to sit here.

1421
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: And that's why I refuse too, like I'm not going

1422
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: to be quiet about what I do and who I am. Okay,

1423
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: I got a big thing to talk about, my parents.

1424
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: My mom died at twelve, Like I'm quite sure she

1425
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: wanted to say a lot more before she got here.

1426
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, but you.

1427
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: Have to be mindful of that, Like, don't take it

1428
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 1: for granted, don't take the day for granted, the time

1429
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: for granted, your life for granted. Go to work, make

1430
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 1: the best song you could ever make, be a great person,

1431
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: be respectful and diligent, and be considered other people's time.

1432
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: We don't do that in our business. When I've worked

1433
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: with the other people, they show up one time, People

1434
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: like Vince, all you want to do is work with

1435
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: white people and pop people. I'm like, no, I want

1436
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: to work with people that want to show up and

1437
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 1: go to work. How about that. I've never remember Jojoe

1438
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: being late for a studio session. Never talk about it,

1439
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: talk about it, and we look like those are.

1440
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 3: The conversations that were not happening.

1441
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: It would not happen because everybody's like doing this BS

1442
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 1: game where they're playing with each other's mind and hearts

1443
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: and feelings, and it's like, it's okay to be honest,

1444
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: you gotta be honest. I'm so glad you guys are

1445
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: having that reunion for the underdogs at the Grammys.

1446
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 2: So heard about that.

1447
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got invited today.

1448
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay.

1449
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: I've always been an underdog in the back. So my

1450
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: my position was three o'clock, four o'clock in the morning,

1451
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 1: either Harvey sitting on my couch or Damon sitting on

1452
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: my couch and we're talking about life and legs and

1453
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: get off the ledge and do this and do that.

1454
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: Get Harvey come out here. We'll still go to lunch

1455
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: and go to dinner. Damon was going through what they

1456
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: was going through. I was rooting for them to be together.

1457
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: I didn't want them to break up, you know what

1458
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: I mean. So, no, you gotta be a good person.

1459
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: Shout out to James Trounce Leroy. Yeah, yes, help him

1460
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 1: out his wrong deal and got it right. Just being quiet,

1461
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: just the right thing for people.

1462
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: He did that. Yeah, I like what. I like what

1463
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 2: you're doing. Man, It's okay to be nice.

1464
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: Okay to be nice, and it ain't got to be

1465
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: that you got to get something from it. Just do

1466
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: the right thing.

1467
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: And I'm I'm really hoping that people are are understanding that.

1468
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 2: You know, it was the talent, of course, was the

1469
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: eye the love for the thing, for sure, but the

1470
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 2: character is is a lot of what has sustained you.

1471
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: I'm glad you see that and protected those relationships and

1472
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: things that are ship still iron class to this day.

1473
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: I had a great mother and father. Yeah, never see

1474
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: my parents drink, argue and fight, smoke. God bless you

1475
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: know whoever does that, God bless you. But I had

1476
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: integery in our house. We ate at seven thirty. My

1477
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: mom would say, how is your day? How was your day?

1478
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: We talked. My dad cooked every day. My mom only

1479
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: cooked on holidays. We had, you know, people come to

1480
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: our house that was homeless or I needed somewhere to talk.

1481
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: And my mom and be like, oh baby, just here

1482
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: for the weekend and it needs me and your dad just

1483
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: gonna pray with them. So there was integrity at hello

1484
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: and I still carry that, you know my day to

1485
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: day walk like it's free to say hello, it's free

1486
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: to say thank It costs nothing. When you sit down

1487
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: and eat at the table, you should ask the waiter

1488
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: what is your name? Yeah, it's consideration. They're bringing your food. Yeah, well,

1489
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't you want to say have a great day, or

1490
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: I think you. I appreciate you. It's not going to

1491
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: kill you. But we get so caught up in ourselves

1492
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: in this world that we do in our business. It's like,

1493
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, there are people too, like people are supposed

1494
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: to do the exactly like, no, it's not cool.

1495
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 3: It's not cool.

1496
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: It's not cool. And it shows the lack of respect

1497
01:14:55,080 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: that you actually have for yourself for real, that you've

1498
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: gotten so mighty that you can't even be respectful to

1499
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: somebody bringing you food to.

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 2: You, the person you would want to be respectful bring

1501
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:15,440
Speaker 2: your food.

1502
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: You want that could go bad exactly quick fashion.

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01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

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01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: No, but this is great. Guys, I'm so and just

1505
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: and it's so much like, you know, we have to

1506
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: come back again for more because I can't remember everything.

1507
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:32,799
Speaker 1: You just I.

1508
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: Just figure it out as you go along.

1509
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 3: Next.

1510
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: Yes, when I.

1511
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 3: Discovered Prince, you know, he was was out Minnesota.

1512
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: I can't those iconic pants I cut those.

1513
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: But you know what it's like, you know, you forget

1514
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: what you do. I forgot that I was on John

1515
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: like his management team, you know what I mean. He

1516
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: just forget ship. You forget, but you know it is

1517
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: what it is.

1518
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: You just you just gotta like every time you think

1519
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: of something new, you gotta you gotta write it. You

1520
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 2: gotta have like a.

1521
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm writing a book actually right now.

1522
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 3: Yeah you should, yeah, you should. His is worse than mine.

1523
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm always with I can't tell you that always like, No,

1524
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 3: didn't tell me that.

1525
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 2: You didn't know you said this? Nigga said it one day.

1526
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: So after I got kidnapped, I said, what are you

1527
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: talking about? He said, I ain't tell you I got kidnapped. No, nigga,

1528
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 2: you didn't tell me you got kidnapped. Oh yeah, I

1529
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 2: got kidnapped, So.

1530
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 1: That is crazy. No, but I'm really I'm excited about

1531
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: this book, really really Yeah what I did so when

1532
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: I did dance music when I was thirteen. I'm gonna

1533
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: make an EP for this album. I mean, for this

1534
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: book that's gonna have eight songs with me singing.

1535
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 3: On really you jumping back in the lab, I read

1536
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 3: the song's already that's great. I love that's great.

1537
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: Each chapter of the book is a song that I wrote,

1538
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 1: a producer did something with.

1539
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to hear that.

1540
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm excited about It's really really good. Again, Like I said,

1541
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: dance music is something that's very passionate to me.

1542
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 3: Oh you see, I see. I think he's fixing his mic.

1543
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 3: He made a whole lot of dance money, A lot

1544
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 3: of dance money.

1545
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.

1546
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, come on find it.

1547
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 2: He took a little bit of.

1548
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 3: Love.

1549
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 2: Been hanging out. I'm tried anyway for you e vents Vince.

1550
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 2: We've known you for a long time, brother, and we

1551
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: are still discovering things about Tran great things, great things.

1552
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 2: But on your journey, we know that a lot of

1553
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:07,440
Speaker 2: these things that you've done have been inspired by someone.

1554
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 2: Your vocals, you're producing, your writing. Ah, there are people

1555
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: that you've studied. They're people that you hold dear you

1556
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 2: On R and B money, we call them your where

1557
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 2: we call them.

1558
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 3: Jam h Top five.

1559
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 2: It's Ashley your top five, Top five, your top five

1560
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 2: R and B sing.

1561
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: A song.

1562
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 5: We got to know big for you guy, rock this show.

1563
01:18:54,439 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 5: Everybody wants to know your top Yes, top top, your.

1564
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:28,799
Speaker 4: Top five, frush out the trap.

1565
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: Let me see what'll be my top five? I think

1566
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: my number one would be Stevie Wonder.

1567
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 3: Hold o you done o?

1568
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 2: Your top five.

1569
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 3: R and B singers, That would have to be Stevie Wonder,

1570
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 3: Come on? Why not?

1571
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: Probably good old Whitney Houston. Yeah yeah, kind of gets

1572
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: tired after that. R and B. I love Mary j Blige,

1573
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: Why not?

1574
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1575
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:08,799
Speaker 1: Joe?

1576
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,959
Speaker 2: I love Joe? Barbara Shop Joe.

1577
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 1: Barbara Shop, Joe Cream Cream Green. Who else? I probably

1578
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: have to say Michael Jackson, hm hmm, not in that order.

1579
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very strong, very strong.

1580
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 2: Okay, your top five R and B songs, Gosh, be

1581
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: really hard.

1582
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: All I do is think about you, Stevie Wonder, Michael

1583
01:20:48,120 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: Jackson and Paul McCartney say say say hey.

1584
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 3: Somebody trying to tell me that sound one good one

1585
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 3: day series.

1586
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:00,799
Speaker 1: They just they this was jealous.

1587
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 3: That's a great way to put it.

1588
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: Who else did the barge?

1589
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 4: He's waiting.

1590
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: So that record and.

1591
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 3: M M.

1592
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: Probably chewing about cooling the game?

1593
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so cool in a gang in there.

1594
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: It's a really good record.

1595
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 3: We got foe.

1596
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: Let me see what else is gonna be? Five? It's

1597
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: the song that Teddy Pentagrass did. It's like a wedding song.

1598
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: What the name was the name of that song? I

1599
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: can't think of what it's called right now. Need google

1600
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: how my phone's dead? You getting no service down here?

1601
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 2: You get no service down here.

1602
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: We're definitely in the dungeon.

1603
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 3: You know, tanks famous. We gotta you know, I gotta,

1604
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 3: I gotta keep him hitting man. You know, the money

1605
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 3: if they find out where he's that man.

1606
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's it. Say see that something. How did

1607
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: you know that it's a record? It's a really really

1608
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: good record.

1609
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1610
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 2: Okay, let's make your voltron your R and B super artists. Okay,

1611
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 2: who you're going to get the vocal from to make

1612
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 2: this artist? You're gonna get the performance style, who you're

1613
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 2: going to get for the styling, you're gonna get for

1614
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 2: the passion of the artist, And who's going to write

1615
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 2: and produce for this artist? And she you know, so

1616
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 2: that would be vocal the vocal what vocal? Michael Jackson,

1617
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 2: Michael performance style, Chris Brown, Chris Okay, okay, the styling, styling.

1618
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,480
Speaker 1: I gotta go back to them.

1619
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 2: Cold buckles, glitter military, huh mil military.

1620
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: Mike is just special, man Like, it's like you don't

1621
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: get that.

1622
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 2: No one, Well, you know what's crazy? I mean he was.

1623
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 2: He was clearly from the future. He was clearly clearly

1624
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 2: alien clearly, but he did so much. He covered so

1625
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 2: much ground to where it's hard it's hard not to

1626
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: be great without grabbing something.

1627
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 3: From him, and he did it in such a short time.

1628
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 1: Mike didn't have a lot of albums, but the impact ridiculous.

1629
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 2: Level. Never be a never impact of that, Mike. He

1630
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 2: covered all of the ground.

1631
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get could just be a whole bolt run.

1632
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 2: No matter what you do, it's you want to be great.

1633
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: It comes to him.

1634
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 2: You have to you have to grab something.

1635
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 3: But he was. He was intentional, and everyone's not intentional.

1636
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:15,600
Speaker 3: He was intentional, like he set out to be innovative.

1637
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: I heard Mike say one time, like, that's what practice

1638
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: is for.

1639
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 2: We're talking about practice.

1640
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: If people don't practice no more, they just get up

1641
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 1: and they.

1642
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 2: Go because it's it's it's this little thing, right, and

1643
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you get back to your vultron. It's

1644
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 2: zip because you said, Mike, and it's it sparked something

1645
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 2: in me, and then you start talking about practice.

1646
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 3: Right.

1647
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 2: It's the thing where maybe everybody could moonwalk, but the

1648
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 2: way he moon walked and the way he practiced his

1649
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:58,759
Speaker 2: moonwalk and as often as he did his moon walk perfection,

1650
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: it almost just became his moon.

1651
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: Could And it is to me to this day, it's

1652
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: Michael Moonwell, everybody can do it all they want.

1653
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 2: No one, you can't tell no, no, you can't tell

1654
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 2: my son that the moonwalk existed before Michael Jacksons. He

1655
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: won't believe you.

1656
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot one thing too, Just another song, sus man,

1657
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 1: tell me if you still care. Yeah, record, great record.

1658
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: My son calls that the happy song. It's to play

1659
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: in the car from all the time. Great record man again,

1660
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: no protus, Oh yeah, I know all about that. Uh passion,

1661
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: passion of the artists.

1662
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 2: Who who? Who's what artist has the passion.

1663
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: That you back to Mike. Mike is just if you

1664
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: want to be an artist, study him. There's nothing like

1665
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,959
Speaker 1: study the great so you can be greater and don't study.

1666
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 2: Don't study the greatness. Don't study after after because once

1667
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 2: you see the videos and once you see the show

1668
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 2: and all of that ship, you can you can get

1669
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 2: confused if you don't figure out how he got there.

1670
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: You gotta study at all.

1671
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: You got to start from the guining. You gotta start

1672
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,600
Speaker 2: from that living room. You gotta start from where he

1673
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 2: picking fabric.

1674
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 1: You gotta start in that living room while he's watching

1675
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: James Brown there in that little room.

1676
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 2: Y'all gonna be here all day, do you get it right?

1677
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 3: Three hundred Jackson Street, Gary and is.

1678
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 1: Playing with that little uh was that mouse or whatever

1679
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 1: he was playing with like there was something that triggered

1680
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: him that made him different than anybody else in that house.

1681
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 2: It's born different. Yeah, he was called to a higher purpose.

1682
01:26:56,040 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: There's something about being great, and there's something about being phenomenal. Yep,

1683
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:03,480
Speaker 1: Michael was phenomenal.

1684
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: It's out of this world. He was out of this

1685
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: world every generation.

1686
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about myself. I'm just phenomenal and

1687
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 1: that's not what the ego guys. I just know in

1688
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 1: my soul of souls, I'm not going out to lose.

1689
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do whatever it takes to make it work.

1690
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: When Brenda Romondo and the school team told me they

1691
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: couldn't get the guy got record, just dance that. We

1692
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: worked for nine months. What did Vincent do?

1693
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 3: What did you do? What e Vincent do?

1694
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 1: Vincent went and got twenty thousand dollars and started breaking

1695
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:39,719
Speaker 1: the record out of Canada.

1696
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 3: Huh into a whole nother country with it.

1697
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: There's no excuses.

1698
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 3: Wow, shout out to the home and Cubo down its too,

1699
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 3: managy'all my record?

1700
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, break it back down. So A Kon

1701
01:27:55,560 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: was on the record first, Huh. Nobody know that Steve

1702
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: Rifkin wouldn't clear a record. Oh ship, that's how cool

1703
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: we got on the record.

1704
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 3: Wow, diamond record.

1705
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 2: And if somebody won't clear something, you need me.

1706
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 1: There's always a backstory to a story.

1707
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,480
Speaker 2: Yes you know, but you are the backstory.

1708
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: And it's like you have no reason to ever do

1709
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: anything else but tell the truth. Steve would not clear

1710
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: a record, Love him and death, good friend of mine

1711
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:39,799
Speaker 1: to this day. But everybody don't see what you see.

1712
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: Everybody don't get what you get after the fact. Everybody

1713
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: want to dance and just dance and party all night long.

1714
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: But you got to be able to see it when

1715
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: no one can see it, when there's no frame around it,

1716
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: when it's just absolutely abstract, like when you go to

1717
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: these art shows like art Basator was this weekend. People

1718
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: were seeing the finished product. What did it look like

1719
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 1: before it got to our best? Did you see that?

1720
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 2: How many? How many paintings did you throw away?

1721
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: How many renditions?

1722
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 2: How many you know what I mean? How much paint

1723
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 2: did you go through? How much did it cost you

1724
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 2: to get to that final paint?

1725
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, So you've got to be able to have vision.

1726
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 1: And that's what I feel like I have that. I

1727
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 1: just thank God for it. I don't know where it

1728
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: came from, but I just have the vision to know

1729
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 1: what something is going to be before anybody else does.

1730
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 3: Love that.

1731
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 2: Who's writing and producing for this artist? Quincy Jones myself?

1732
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,600
Speaker 2: You absolutely two greats.

1733
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 3: Yeah I got another one though, I got another one

1734
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 3: just for you. What executive are you taking it to?

1735
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 3: Who you partnering with?

1736
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 2: No?

1737
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 3: But no, no, no, no, you got it. But who

1738
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 3: you partnering with? All the great executives name because it's

1739
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 3: that now, now you got pick one.

1740
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: Jimmy Irvan. Jimmy's one of the greatest record guys ever

1741
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 1: met in my life, and I'm so honored that I

1742
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 1: got to learn from him because he made me be

1743
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: better than myself was when I met him. Gets me

1744
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,560
Speaker 1: emotional because it's so many different things, like stories that

1745
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: mean Jimmy just had a meetings that we had it

1746
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 1: was just us, and how the process of that project

1747
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 1: took a life of his own, and you know the records.

1748
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 1: When I would play the records for him from God guy,

1749
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: he would be like, oh, you need to give me

1750
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: that record for Nicole or do this or do that,

1751
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 1: or up for the pussy Cat Dolls, whatever, And that's

1752
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 1: what artists don't see how hard you fight for you fight.

1753
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 1: I fight for my artists. I never took no. I

1754
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: never took like, oh, let's think about it, let me

1755
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,560
Speaker 1: come back to it. Like the artists don't see that.

1756
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: They don't they don't see it. They don't get the

1757
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: opportunity to really understand what we really do as executives

1758
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 1: and as visionaries and people that are behind the scenes.

1759
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: They don't understand it. Like there's so many things that

1760
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 1: you don't even tell it artists because you don't want

1761
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: to mess up them around or the energy or their

1762
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 1: provision of what the future could be for them, So

1763
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 1: you block those things from them, and then they take

1764
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: it on. As you're trying to do this, you're trying

1765
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 1: to control them. No, I'm actually trying to be a

1766
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: blessing to you, so you don't hurt yourself because you

1767
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: can't withdore what I can withdore. Your ability to hear

1768
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: you know, no may be different than mine. I take no.

1769
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: It's a blessing. The no sometime is the blessing, just

1770
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: like the yes. So tell me no so I can

1771
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 1: go work harder. Yeah, but some artists would take that

1772
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: and lose their mind. But we're not putting your record

1773
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: out this month. We're putting it out next year.

1774
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 3: Okay.

1775
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: Cool, that's gonna give me more time to make more

1776
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: better records, so then we know the note is a blessing.

1777
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 1: We get so caught up into yes.

1778
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:11,520
Speaker 3: And that's real. Now. You you listen, you caick game today.

1779
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,879
Speaker 2: Cooking today, you came to cook.

1780
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Came to be a blessing somebody's life. You know what

1781
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:20,719
Speaker 1: I mean, because it's okay. I'm telling y'all, y'all cooking, y'all.

1782
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, y'all need to take this show. And

1783
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you to do your business. Your business.

1784
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 1: But there's R and B in London, in Japan, in Australia,

1785
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: in Spain, in South America. I've been there. There's still

1786
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: videos going on, it's still record stores. People are still

1787
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 1: excited about concerts.

1788
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 3: Like call your friends and tell.

1789
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 1: Them to be with my friends. It's incredible there. We

1790
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 1: put up to our show for Tamar. One time we

1791
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 1: went to Paris. We put the show up in one day.

1792
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 1: The show was sold out the next day, and the

1793
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 1: people at Epic at time was like, what are you doing?

1794
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: Why are you taking it to the iTunes Music Festival.

1795
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, she's on television and they are black

1796
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: people over here too, right, they couldn't speak English, they

1797
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 1: knew every song because of television. How powerful television was

1798
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 1: that people felt like they went on that journey and

1799
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: they got to see the story. Yeah, television is still

1800
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: the most powerful tool in our world because when you

1801
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 1: think about it, how many stars have came out of

1802
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: American Idol, how many stars are coming out of the Voice,

1803
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: But those brands are still on television because people want

1804
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 1: to go through the journey, they want to have hope,

1805
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: they want to cheer for something. Give them a superstar

1806
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 1: in the middle of that too, whites out. But this

1807
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: show should be all over the world. It's bigger than

1808
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: what we're doing right now. It's just you guys deserve that.

1809
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 1: It's just the magnitude of somebody saying we can do

1810
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 1: this and go make it. It happen. Yeah, because they're waiting

1811
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: for it. They want it, They wanted Our world in

1812
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 1: America thing kind of sometimes gets a little distorted. But

1813
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: the rest of the world, and I love America, but

1814
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 1: I'm just saying those other countries are so excited about

1815
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 1: music super super, especially R and B music, Like, think

1816
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 1: about where music comes from. We all see notice absolutely

1817
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 1: there was a lot of black people.

1818
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:30,759
Speaker 3: He was studying my whole lot.

1819
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: Of but nobody talks about it because everybody feel like

1820
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: it's gonna offend to my It's like, now, if the

1821
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 1: truth doesn't offend you, lies offend you because you got

1822
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 1: to keep remembering how to lie and lie and lie.

1823
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 1: The truth will set you free.

1824
01:34:50,200 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 3: And on that note, I'm saying no nick name.

1825
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying no names. I ain't saying no names. He

1826
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 2: was what you did. Don't say sheep. I'm saying no.

1827
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need y'all get one of these endorsements too

1828
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 1: for your keyboard.

1829
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 3: You don't.

1830
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, so how many kids I saw a

1831
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 1: way down to take brother grind?

1832
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 3: What keeps us?

1833
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 1: We gotta keep some grind on us. Let me tell

1834
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 1: you about people. They want to feel inspirational and they

1835
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 1: want us feel inspired. Kardashians just showed this world in

1836
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 1: more ways than one. People just want hope. Yeah, they

1837
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: just went hope.

1838
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 2: They want some hope. They want some hope. So we're

1839
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 2: gonna up to this thing. You don't give him some hope.

1840
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna give him some hope. We're gonna give him

1841
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 1: a row in the something.

1842
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 2: You got twenty days, you got twenty four hours, you

1843
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 2: got twenty four hours to do something great.

1844
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:09,600
Speaker 1: I won't have to make no calls.

1845
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna make a enough call to somebody else.

1846
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 3: Oh that is great, great, All right, So we've come

1847
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 3: to a very important part of the show. This is

1848
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 3: known worldwide. This part of the show is no world. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1849
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 3: Will you tell us the story funny or fucked up?

1850
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 3: Are funny and fucked up? But the only rude to

1851
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 3: the game is you can't say no names.

1852
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:43,799
Speaker 1: No me see, I don't know. Let me see funny

1853
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 1: or fucked up both. And it's got to be about

1854
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 1: the music business.

1855
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 3: No, no, no, not at all. Just your travels around

1856
01:36:59,000 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 3: the world ten times.

1857
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, probably more, but I wish I had more.

1858
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: Let me see a funnier fucked up story, all right.

1859
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 1: Let me see. So there was this one time that

1860
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:42,839
Speaker 1: we were we were at the whole To Arena in London,

1861
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 1: and that's why I was laughing another day understanding it's

1862
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 1: about something with our good friend. But they lost a

1863
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: hard drive for the music for the whole album done.

1864
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: They lose the hard drive, and this young lady got

1865
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 1: so emotional pete On herself canceled the show. The hard

1866
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 1: drive was in her room in the suitcase. Oh cursed

1867
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: everybody out.

1868
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 3: The whole time. She got the hard drive.

1869
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 1: She hit the hard drive from herself. She had the

1870
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 1: hard drive from herself. Oh man, I don't think we've

1871
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: recovered from that. For like a week. Everybody was so

1872
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: mad and just like like, how the hell you do that.

1873
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 1: There's another time too. This is funny. Story was on

1874
01:38:52,560 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 1: the bus tour bus, big, big song. It was done

1875
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 1: in like an hour. Song was great. Everybody was having

1876
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 1: about the song. The engineer erased the background vocals, Oh

1877
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: what god, this stuff? You can't make this up. And

1878
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 1: the artist like loss of mine. Lost all the background vocals,

1879
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 1: all of them, all of them.

1880
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,679
Speaker 3: We've all been in those sessions, hit the wrong button,

1881
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:32,719
Speaker 3: hit the wrong bike.

1882
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 1: Save It's like every time you're supposed to keep it safe.

1883
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 1: So the great engineer does so the great engineer, which

1884
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of those needs these days.

1885
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 1: Talk to top, you really do, because everybody think they

1886
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 1: can do it themselves. So the engineers don't have a job.

1887
01:39:55,479 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 2: I I need a good engineer, know what I'm saying.

1888
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 2: That's how I operate.

1889
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 1: Okay, you gotta have a good engineer. You can't do

1890
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 1: it any other way.

1891
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 2: I have no desire to be an engineer, to be

1892
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 2: an engineer, none, because I want somebody who's good at that,

1893
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 2: at that mm hmm, really good at that.

1894
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 3: We got it. We have to start appreciating and respecting

1895
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,680
Speaker 3: the engineer. What other just not even just engineers, what

1896
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 3: other people do, what their craft is.

1897
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 1: I think singers should be listed. I mean writers should

1898
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 1: be listed as a producer. I really do. Because you

1899
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: think about it, you'll get a dope beat. The beat

1900
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: is incredible, it's a great beat.

1901
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 3: Speak on it.

1902
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 1: But until that song gets over that beat, it's just

1903
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: a great beat. When the song comes over the beat,

1904
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 1: it becomes a great song. Why can't we give them

1905
01:40:58,840 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 1: some credit?

1906
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:00,759
Speaker 3: Ude finished product exactly.

1907
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 1: But everybody's so busy with their ego that they just

1908
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: leave these people out.

1909
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 2: And because because the beat maker was automatically assumed to

1910
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 2: be the producer, especially urban music, exactly, like nobody really studied,

1911
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 2: like really study Quincy Jones.

1912
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 1: One instrument trumpet, what production and produced all those records

1913
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 1: with producing a record really one instrument, the trumpet, and

1914
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:34,919
Speaker 1: produced all those great records, the greatest album of all lifetime.

1915
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 3: Quincy Jones did not make beats, is what he's saying

1916
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 3: to you.

1917
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:43,600
Speaker 1: He played a trumpet, but he had the sensibility of

1918
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 1: an incredible ear to know what a great drummer was,

1919
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 1: a great bass player, a great guitar player, and a

1920
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 1: great sense of what a sound like.

1921
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 3: All of it.

1922
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:56,799
Speaker 2: He saw the record.

1923
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 1: I don't think we give him enough credit to z

1924
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:01,599
Speaker 1: exactly exactly.

1925
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 2: It's no part of that record that he didn't touch,

1926
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 2: that he didn't oversee absolutely, And that's a producer.

1927
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 1: That's what a producer is. Yep, that's what a producer is.

1928
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right.

1929
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 2: We're gonna learn him.

1930
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna teach him because it's getting out of

1931
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:23,719
Speaker 1: hand people, Oh I did this speak? Now? Did AI

1932
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: do the beat or did you do? I don't know?

1933
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 1: And then there's that you know what I mean. It's like,

1934
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 1: come on, we gotta be careful with that. Oh I

1935
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 1: love it. I love it here baby faced great producer too.

1936
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: I worked on his album too, was that somethimes song?

1937
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 1: And well, no, the sound the soundtrack where he got

1938
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 1: the shirt on he has like the dude font he

1939
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: was on epic.

1940
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Speaker 3: Would he just be? Would He just be? A self

1941
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 3: titled album? Was?

1942
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 1: Probably was?

1943
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 3: I think it's first time might have been a self

1944
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 3: titled album coming out of the deal.

1945
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 1: Yep, I think it was. Yeah, great songwriter? Do you

1946
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 1: great producer? Okay, okay, let me see. I'll show it

1947
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: to you that one right there. But what you think

1948
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: about over to the right, Yeah, what's okay? That's the one,

1949
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 1: so deliver.

1950
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna start writing the ship down man?

1951
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: You know, I just I promise if I said and

1952
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 1: thought about it all day, I wouldn't be as great

1953
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 1: as I am. I don't know, true, I don't. I

1954
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 1: don't sit there and stand like doing Netflix specials and

1955
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: writing books.

1956
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:34,639
Speaker 2: We need all the information.

1957
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 1: I'm doing affordable home care, I mean homes for people

1958
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 1: in Newark and Jersey. I'm working on that so that

1959
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 1: people that can't afford homes that we be able to

1960
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: get them. My first project is going to be fifteen

1961
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 1: homes that I'm doing with with the mayor in ne York.

1962
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 1: I'm proud of that too. As you said, was born

1963
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 1: at so now I'm able to help people have a

1964
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 1: better life and a better place the rest of their head. Yeah,

1965
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 1: it's so much that we can do in life. We

1966
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: get these these forms to do.

1967
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 2: This, absolutely, but we gloating ourselves. Yeah yeah, I love that.

1968
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 2: Brother ship man, you've done it all. Hey man, you're

1969
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,480
Speaker 2: doing it all.

1970
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 1: To be done, done, still more to be done. It's

1971
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 1: how much you want to do.

1972
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 2: We're here brother to you know to go around take

1973
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:24,679
Speaker 2: that right what you go around the world ten times

1974
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 2: with you?

1975
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Tank was definitely a party of last night.

1976
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 3: Save Man.

1977
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:33,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love to take I went to

1978
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 1: go see that play with taking it the first day

1979
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 1: of the first it was so great. You did incredible

1980
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 1: job than it was really really special. I didn't say

1981
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 1: the shake of hand about you at work. I told

1982
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 1: my girl. I was like, let's go. She's like, Oh,

1983
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 1: you're not gonna say and take a picture like the

1984
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 1: man's at work.

1985
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 2: No, that was That's the whole point. Did a great

1986
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 2: job taking pictures.

1987
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 1: Man, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't take a lot

1988
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: of pictures in my career. I didn't take a lot

1989
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 1: of pictures. I just did the work. I just did

1990
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 1: the work and then put my head down. And but

1991
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:06,640
Speaker 1: now I'm definitely gonna tell my story though which is

1992
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 1: which is?

1993
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 3: Which is going to lead to more work, Absolutely, and

1994
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 3: we're glad you chose.

1995
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 1: And I want to tell the work like I produced

1996
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 1: probably like four songs on this new Qriss project. I

1997
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: never was scared of the work. That was afraid of that.

1998
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, you know, I feel like

1999
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 2: when people are when people are trying to be or

2000
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 2: to attain to something, they need to know who they

2001
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 2: can go to, absolutely, and that's not me, who they

2002
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 2: can get this and and who they can get this

2003
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 2: information from. Absolute they can look to, and who they

2004
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 2: can you know, who they can be inspired by. And

2005
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 2: I think you you you, having this conversation and and

2006
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 2: and getting this off your chest in this manner gives

2007
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 2: people a compass. Absolutely, It gives people the north star

2008
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 2: to be like this, you know what I need. I

2009
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 2: want to go look into more of what that is

2010
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 2: and the hows and the wives and the who's that

2011
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 2: made that thing go, because that's what I want to be.

2012
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 2: So that's the importance of you know, you coming here

2013
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 2: and having this conversation with us and killing us with shit.

2014
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 3: W you know now, thank you.

2015
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I'm excited about it. The next time

2016
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 1: we do this, I want to be able to have

2017
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 1: people either send us a song or bring you something.

2018
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 1: You don't make it where you get people an opportunity

2019
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 1: for something. We love that, you know what I mean.

2020
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 1: I got this new group called Highland Avenue that I'm doing.

2021
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 1: It's like a new young Beatles. This other girl who's

2022
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 1: like the new guy. Guys, she's twenty one from New York.

2023
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 1: Just invite people into your world that can't get there

2024
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 1: because somebody did it for us. Yeah right, yeah, somebody

2025
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 1: let their hand out and said, I'll listen to it.

2026
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 1: I'll do this. You know, you gotta pay that for it.

2027
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing, Chris with this new record. It's

2028
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 1: like I'm paying it for it. God help me. I

2029
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 1: gotta help him.

2030
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 3: Well.

2031
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:07,800
Speaker 2: Brother Herbert, Elda Herbert, you're an amazing brother man, your

2032
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 2: friend us. We are proud and excited that you've chosen

2033
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 2: R and B Money to come in and really share

2034
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,680
Speaker 2: your story. Man, We truly, truly, truly appreciate that.

2035
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, and I did it with people that

2036
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,719
Speaker 1: I like that. I love that I care about because

2037
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 1: people don't do what I've done that look like me,

2038
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 1: that's real, Like I've made the biggest pop superstar in

2039
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 1: the last decade. Congratulations, I'm a black man. They don't happen,

2040
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't let that get there. But you

2041
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 1: have to be honest with yourself, like we all can

2042
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 1: do it. It's just having the opportunity. Well, well, thank

2043
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 1: you guys very much. We will gonna find this money.

2044
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 1: Money's never lost.

2045
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:00,680
Speaker 2: It's out there, it's right there in front, and we

2046
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,640
Speaker 2: can go get it. Ladies and gentlemen. My name is

2047
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 2: Tank and this is the R and B Money Podcast.

2048
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 3: The authority on all things.

2049
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 2: R and B. And we have been around the world

2050
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 2: at least ten times. We'd have ran out of fingers

2051
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 2: how many times we've been around it with this man

2052
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 2: right here.