WEBVTT - Queen Beryl Will Step on You (feat. Liv Hewson) 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.760 There's a movie that I saw recently where there's a 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:10.799 baby that's a thief. Wait, no, I'm serious. This is 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.360 a contemporary movie, the virgins. Please help me. Is it 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:24.919 boss baby? It's not. Boss babies wages. Did sailorman ever 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:29.320 fight like any kind of Wolf Monster? Probably there was 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:34.080 probably a wolf monster, vampire monster, you know, big Spaghetti Monster. Okay, well, 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.440 that would be um great to know. I'm sure our 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.120 guest today would really appreciate thoughts, since they were famously 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:47.600 Um maulled by wolves on famous showtimes hit series yellow jocket. 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.800 Oh my God, rose are like Fan girling has, like 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:56.800 you know, manifested, has tram infested into something. That means 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.080 that someone on a show that we watch listen. We 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.560 watched that, we watch and have speculated a very embarrassingly 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.920 spewed conspiracy theory. And yet and then we found out 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.240 that they listen. Yes, so we found out that LIV HOUSTON, 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:16.080 Um from yellow jackets, is a fan of the pod, 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:20.080 is a virgin. So of course we had to get 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:24.919 them on to talk all about sailor moon but also, 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.839 like many other things, this is a very tangenty episode. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.280 We're going to talk about ever after. We're going to 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.119 talk about Florence and the machine. We're going to talk 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:37.520 about the return of Um Indie sleeves, Lord of the Rings. Yeah, 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:41.720 we really, we really went up, down around and UH, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.600 like the plane crashed in this episode and we had 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:47.840 were stuck in the wilderness and had to figure it out. And, 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.240 much like the ribbons in the transformation sequences of sailor moon, 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.080 we really spun all the way out, because this is 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.240 like a virgin, the show where we give yesterday's pop 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:01.000 culture today's takes. I'm rose Damo and I'm Fran Toronto, 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:11.000 Fighting Evil Light, love by day light. Never run from 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.799 a real fight. She is the one named sailor or. 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:23.200 They are the one named sailor. You know what? I've 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:28.480 been thinking about? Getting into real estate? Um, no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.200 you have not. That's just your that is a very 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.720 fake segue into the next conversation, but we on the 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.520 podcast have to say that we at like a virgin, 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.080 do not believe in Um, the autonomy of landlords, and 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:44.880 hopefully we'll never become landlord, brand Lord, Frand Lord and Lord. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.600 I will not. Okay, anyways, you were you were starting 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.960 a very clunky segue into our first discussion topic. Do 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.760 you want to go? Do you want to go in? Yeah, 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:59.119 you know, the for the past week, I would say, 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.040 all I've been thinking about on a loop is one 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:09.040 thing and that is the extreme television excellence that is 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:14.000 selling the C. It is. I mean there are only 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.720 like six or eight episodes in this first season. It 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.760 was very short and I honestly felt that the ending 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.320 was kind of abrupt and I when like the thing 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.720 ended and it was like other titles to watch, I 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.000 was like that's the end of the season. I thought 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:31.080 there would be another episode, and I get you know, 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.200 I'm sure with the way that that selling sunset has 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.160 been rolling out like, there's probably another season coming like 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:41.640 pretty soon and they're saving like the rest of the 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.360 drama for it. But Fund selling the O C, the 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.880 main drama that happens at the end of the season 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:52.600 is everyone's mad about Kayla trying to make out with 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:57.080 tyler and her being slut shamed by some of the 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:02.560 girls for it. I think some deservedly so, because she 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.960 did try to hook up with her married co worker. 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.240 She was asking for it, is what is what you 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.280 were saying. I'm not saying she was asking for I'm 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.840 not saying she should have been slut shamed, but I 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:19.359 think the false equivalency that the two Alex has made 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.560 that her doing that was the same thing as the 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:27.159 nosy thing, the girl's kissing his nose. It's not the 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.920 same thing. Like that's obviously like like a sort of 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.279 weird but like playful thing between co workers, and a 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.360 woman earnestly trying to get her married coworker to hook 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.680 up with her is slightly different. Yeah, it's not the 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.520 same thing, but it is a double standard and I 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.760 still am, by the finale, on team Kayla, even though 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.720 I think Kayla kind of sucks. Actually, I'm on team 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.800 Tyler because, you know, no, no, no, I actually think 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.839 he's like the most boring looking, kind of Fart faced 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.839 guy in the whole cast. I don't understand he's so 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.040 sec he's the hottest one. I disagree. I don't understand 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.080 why he is like the pinnacle of attractiveness in this 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:10.719 show because he virtually has no personality. But he did interject. 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:14.280 Doesn't need one, true, but he did interject and cut 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.880 through the bullshit in a very severe way that I 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:22.120 thought was effective and wonderful, because this is why we 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.560 need men. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I actually 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.159 this is a tangent, if we can hot between the two. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.680 This is something that also happened in the most recent 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.040 season of real housewives of Beverly Hills, which you haven't 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.640 watched yet, I don't think, because I'm kind of like 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.159 five episodes behind, because I think it's bad. You've fallen 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:38.840 off a little bit. Let me tell you, they're an 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.320 aspen and it's getting really good. I won't spoil it 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.080 for the virgins, but there is a moment where one 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.800 of the most heated arguments ever is happening between two 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.680 of the housewives and Maurice CEO Steps in in an 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:56.960 unprecedented intervention and he seriously, like he throws like a 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.560 bucket of water on the tension, like it was like 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.440 such just so bring effect, and it's very similar to 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.680 how tyler like walks and it's like hey, I know 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.440 there's a reality TV show happening, but actually, like real life, 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.320 like humans, like we don't need to be doing this 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.520 right now. Um, it's kind of antithetical to like reality 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.159 TV show like ethos, Um, but did you like this 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:20.640 most recent episode of brings the power? I didn't okay, 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:26.160 tell me why. I think what happened when I watched 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:30.120 the first three episodes is like I got you know, 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.200 I was I was on a roll with it. I 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.960 was like really experiencing it all as a whole, as 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:38.760 an h o l e and as a w h 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.400 o l M. I was experiencing it as a whole 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.520 because I am a whole and it's my experience and 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.200 I still there's still a lot that's working for me. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.279 The way it's shot is beautiful, the music is beautiful, 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:59.280 the stuff with L Rond and Doran is really working 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:03.120 for me. And decided the action sequences and the action sequences. 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.159 It could not be more clear that L Ron, Duran 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.760 and DIESEA are working their way towards becoming a poly 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:17.120 fuel Um. But it is kind of boring and I 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:21.080 really started to see what you were talking about about 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:26.320 the costumes this week. Sorry, and really it really hit 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:30.360 home when I finally started watching House of the Dragon, 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.000 which I had been hesitant to watch a because I 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.320 was so burned by the end of game of thrones 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.800 and also be I just wanted to wait until the 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.080 whole season was out and watch it all at once. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.840 But on finding out that you had watched an episode, 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:49.240 I was like, okay, I gotta and looking at the 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.560 show side by side and watching. I actually watched house 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.800 of the dragon right after I watched the new episode 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:59.600 of rings. The production value and costumes on house of 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:03.520 the drag and are infinitely better than there are in 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.480 rings of power. I think rings of power is shot 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:12.640 more cinematically and it's more kind of lush and beautiful, 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.240 and that is by design. House of the Dragon is 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:22.040 much darker in tone and also like literally visually darker, 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:28.080 but it just looks better. You know, I I experienced 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.440 something of the same and I have some lingering thoughts 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.280 off of like last week's chat about the rings of 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.440 Power Dichotomy. And one of the things in terms of 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:41.480 like the visuals that I think must be acknowledged is like, yes, 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.960 like when the Lord of the Rings trilogy was like 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.640 shooting their movies, they were using the best equipment and 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.040 the best cameras humanly possible, but it was still so 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.120 long ago that there's this like lovely little gauge and 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.160 blur that's like on everything, and I think that like 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.120 now that we're watching rings of power with like the 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.400 highest deft Hamera, is known to man. It's like I 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.480 when I don't want to see the wig line, you 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.800 know what I mean, like I don't want seriously like 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:11.840 put the blacks making cameras worse. You know what? Well, 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.240 movies used to be shot in a way where there 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.760 was still the ability to have sort of this like 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:21.480 vassiline haze over everything, something left to the imagination. Yeah, 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.720 and now we don't have that and you either find 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.480 a way to work around it or you don't, and 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:31.280 I think unfortunately, rings of power hasn't, and it's what 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.240 I'm really noticing. is like it's the wide shots that 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.840 are beautiful, it's the landscapes, but as soon as you 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.760 zoom in a little too far on anything, it's clocky 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.960 t shop, Mama, it's cocky t shop, and you know, 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.440 I wanted to say that. And rings the power is 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:52.160 clocky and House of the Dragon's kind of unclockable. I'm clockable. 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.840 And you know, speaking of the wide shot and visuals, 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:59.800 action sequences, when, Um, in the first scene of rings 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.600 of power, when the Regent Queen is, you know, having 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:08.960 that dream that our city is flooding, that epic so incredible, 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.880 and then snap, it's actually a dream. And it's not real. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.800 And I was like wait, actually, like I was kind 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.280 of waiting for the show to have steaks like that 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.440 and for like something that I thought about when I 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.440 did the same thing that you did, watching the most 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.720 recent episode of House of Dragon and then jumping over 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.880 to rings of power, was that the steaks of haven't 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.480 watched the most recent I won't Dragon. I won't spoil 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.160 the most recent episode. I'm just speaking generally about it. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:38.600 The steaks of House of Dragon are very human and 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.520 very concrete. It's like you fucked this person, this person 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:45.920 sucked that person, this person wants to kill this person, raphile, 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.959 this person and murderer. Yes, and the game of thrones 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.720 has always been a political drama, and that is the 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.559 thing that really drew people to it when the show 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.920 started and why it spawned this craze is for fantasy. 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.120 That directly led to US having the rings of power, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:09.120 which is it turned high fantasy into something that people 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:14.920 who watched shows like the Sopranos Could Watch and engage 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.880 with and understand, because it is very human and it's 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:22.840 about people with power behaving badly. Um, like, especially the 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:24.960 first season of game of thrones, like it is kind 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.880 of like the Sopranos with dragons. House of the Dragon 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:32.600 isn't even smaller story than game of thrones, because game 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:37.319 of thrones had a Zombie Apocalypse and like the rebirth 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:41.760 of dragons into the world and so many characters, yes, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:46.480 so many characters spanning across multiple continents, and House of 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:50.720 the Dragon is actually literally just about one family and 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.319 all of their political intrigue, with like a couple different 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.480 side stories, like the whole stuff that's going on in 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.200 the stepstones. But it is by design much smaller and, 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:05.600 I think, easier to grasp and the rings of power 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.720 is just because we know what it's all leading towards 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:13.000 and because of how many characters there are and locations 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:14.760 there are, even though I think it does a good 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.320 job of helping you figure out who they are and 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:21.760 where they are, it is just so much heavier and 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:26.480 it's so big that it's hard to wrap your brain around. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.439 And it's like I'm watching Galadriel do all this stuff 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.560 and I think it would be easy to be like 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:38.360 why she's so pissed, like what? Why she's like I 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:43.120 kind of sometimes feel like she's and I think this 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.800 is somewhat by design, like you're supposed to understand that 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.240 this is someone who's like playing for d chest and 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.680 looking a thousand moves ahead and no one else is 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.319 on her level. But she still has to share scenes 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.800 with these people and it's just like it's I don't 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.440 know it, especially in this episode, it like wasn't really 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:06.600 working for me. And also her goal is not becoming 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.800 more concrete. The stakes are not getting higher, for it's 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.240 one no, and it's like, at the end of the day, 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.520 Gladuel is just a war hawk, like a war Hawk 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.040 with like really personal interests, and I like that her 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:24.120 character is flawed in that way. But like, I don't know, 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.920 I just I I wish that she was uglier. I 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.160 wanted her to be ugly. I want her to get 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.719 in her emotions. Well, I want her to fuck this 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.320 episode gave her a new person that she had amazing 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.920 chemistry with, which was the Queen region. I wanted them 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.160 to kiss. Well, now that they're going to travel together, well, 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.640 they should hook up, but they never will. Nothing Gay 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:50.439 will ever happen on the rings of power. I loved 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:54.960 the Dwarf Song Girl so good, stunning. I rewound. She 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.200 sounded great. I wonder if that's her real voice? I wonder, 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:01.280 I'm I would imagine. Yea, I bet you I. It seems. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.720 It was so beautiful and it was something we dropped 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.840 the album seriously and we've never seen a song like 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.080 that in like the Lord of the Rings Lore. It 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:13.880 felt so seamless in the world of dwarves Um something 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.040 that I just like little little hanging lingering notes from 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.520 the episode. I thought it was really cool that there 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:23.960 was like a few seconds where we saw an ORC burial. Um. 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.200 I don't know if you remember this, but like humanized 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.360 the ORCs a little bit and it's the first time 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.680 we've ever seen like the other side of like ORC life, 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.200 beyond like them, you know, bickering or getting mad at 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:40.000 each other. You know what I do? You think absolutely 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:45.040 they've Um. Yeah, we really honestly, I wish the show 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:50.400 would be more should I know you will Um. But yeah, 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.680 let's talk a little bit more about the House of 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:57.480 the Dragon. So you did not watch game of thrones, right? 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.880 I actually I watched all of it. Um. But yes, 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:07.920 but watched is a generous term to use in describing 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:09.760 the fact that I did, yes, sit in front of 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.960 the TV as every single episode did play. But did 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:17.360 I retain everything in the game of Thrones Universe? No, no, 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.960 I did not. Okay, did you read the game of 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:24.120 thrones books? No, I have not read any of that. Now, okay, 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.520 I've read all. I've read all the game of thrones 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.960 books and I read not the entirety of fire and blood, 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:34.440 which is the book of Targarian history that George R 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:38.680 Martin wrote, and the story that House of the Dragon 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.200 is based on is one of the chapters in that 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:45.360 book and I think it's really interesting watching it because 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.120 the way that it's written in the book is like 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.440 it's as if, I mean, fucking George R Martin, like 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.240 he can't get these last two books out, but he 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:59.480 literally wrote a whole book that is like fake accounts 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.000 of a fake family in his fantasy series. So the 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.600 the way that Hustle the Dragon, that story of this 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.560 targarian civil war, like that's what this is building to. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.840 It's told in this book as if like it's a 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.320 history book and these are the accounts of people who 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.520 were there, and so it's not like a story, like 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:23.800 there's no dialog, it's a history. So I've watched the 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:30.160 first three episodes. What I like is acting is great. 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.480 I think the girl who plays young re Neerer, I 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.880 just call her. I just call her mini Denis. Who 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:40.480 knows what any of their names are? She's she's a 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:45.640 great actress. Um, I wish she and her little friend 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:51.000 who fucked her dad hooked up, because they obviously how 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:56.600 did vibe the as we said, the costumes are amazing. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.080 The C G I is really good. I think the 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:03.200 Dragons Look Matt Smith Wonderful. Matt Smith is so good, 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:09.040 perfect the universe. The actress who plays the the Queen 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.400 who never was, you know, the Queen who got passed 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:18.120 over for her cousin. I think, yeah, her cousin. She's 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.159 amazing and needs more to do. I love her and 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:25.520 her husband. Um, it's all like all the parts are working. 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.840 For me, some of the stuff that isn't is I 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:32.480 think it just moves too fast, like it's so much happens, 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.160 and I understand that's because we're dealing with a story 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.320 that unfolds across a lot of time. We're going to 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:43.800 get older versions of some of the younger actors and 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:48.199 future episodes. I just think like I was watching the 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:53.120 first episode and I felt like it should have ended 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.600 with the baby dying and that whole storyline should have 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:03.840 been stretched out over multiple episodes, but things are presented 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:10.560 and then resolved pretty quickly. And also VI Serra's the king, 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.359 is like kind of too nice. I think he should be. 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.760 Like obviously he makes like fucked up decisions, like deciding 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.080 to kill his wife so that his baby could love, 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.600 you know, just a mile, just just that little decision 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.199 about killing his wife, Um marrying his daughter's best friend. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:32.200 But also, like he for game of thrones, especially what 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.000 we're judging against, game of thrones, and like people who 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.520 did really terrible things for power. Like for the most 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:42.359 part he kind of like tries to do good things, 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.919 like he tries to bond with his daughter and like, 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.920 I don't know, I just think that. I just thought 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.080 that was interesting. It's like there's some people who were 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.320 acting like somewhat rationally, and I think it's probably to 0:18:54.600 --> 0:19:00.960 contrast that against how evil things are going to get eventually. Leave. Also, 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:05.200 Sir Christen Cole, so hot. Yeah, that's actually the other 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.160 thing you know about House of Dragon that I appreciate 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:12.879 is that the show's depiction and idea of evil is 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:16.760 so concrete and, like, you know, it's like pedophiles and 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:21.600 murderers and traders and like it's right there in your face. Um, 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.800 even if it's complex, it's right there in your face. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.719 And like we toil keen, it's like the franchise is 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:31.760 like idea of evil is so much more amorphous and 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:35.760 abstract and, Um, I don't know, I I it's capital 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:41.760 e evil, you know, capital instead of, you know, human evil. Yes, exactly, 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:45.199 and and I don't mind that. It moves fast, but I, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.000 you know, have a short attention span. One thing I 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:52.320 really need is that I need the Targarians to have 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.879 bleached brows, because it's not it doesn't make sense that 0:19:55.920 --> 0:20:02.320 they're all famously platinum lady Gaga blaw but have dark eyebrows. 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:06.080 I I also feel like, you know, these these these 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:09.720 blonde dreads, these silver dreads, they look good on some 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.160 and not good on others. And and it's not. It's 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:13.800 not an issue with the hair, it's an issue with 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:18.119 the WIG. is a hat is sitting but on the skull, 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.520 and I'm like, just like like the little girl who 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:22.920 they tried to marry off to the king and her 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:27.359 like huge head of white curls is like Mama Mama 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.680 and the wigs are better on the House of the 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:31.640 Dragon Than They are in rings of power. I will 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:35.240 say that, and something I think about constantly with any 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:39.760 fantasy show, is they did not have indoor plumbing. It 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:44.880 must smell rotten up in there. Yeah, yeah, it definitely does. 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:51.440 They all smell bad, have disgusting teeth. Um. Another good 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.040 thing I'll say for the House of the Dragon is 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.360 it's obviously very aware of a lot of the criticism 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.600 that was leveled at game of thrones about how it 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:05.440 you women, the nudity of women and the sexual violence, Um, 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.080 and kind of just violence in general, and is not 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.800 leaning into them as much and I think actually the 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:15.520 showrunners have said that they will not do that the 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.359 way the game of thrones did, which is great. You know, 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:23.639 the bars on the floor, so so happy to see that. 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.720 The violence also feels like it it's a little tapered, 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.640 like it's still really violent and I don't think it's 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:35.240 necessarily a huge improvement. But like they aren't showing h 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.439 the way these bodies are being mangled as much like 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:41.480 they're showing like some restraint, which I apprear. I mean, 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:45.320 you know the birthing scene and the sort of like 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:49.320 forced c section in the first episode was hard to watch, 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:51.639 but I just kept thinking this would have been so 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.399 much corrier on game of thront, like you would have 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.440 seen her pussy on game of throne and you would 0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:00.520 have watched them tear the baby out of her girl. 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:18.080 Truly like watching Silomon as a kid. I remember feeling 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:21.720 like palpable envy with like the transformation sequences, where I 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.320 was like, Oh, I will never have that happen, like 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:26.240 I will never feel that like this sort of like 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.760 spinning around in a liminal space and lights of shining. 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:30.439 It's like there's no way for me to recreate that 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:36.120 in real life. The socks. What's the closest you've ever gotten? Um, 0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:38.919 it's like, I don't think I have yet, but what 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.840 I the closest thing I imagined, which is also something 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:44.199 I felt after seeing like the two thousand and six 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:45.960 live action paid a Pan, which is just like I 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:47.760 just want, I want to do something where I'm on wires, 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.600 like I just I want to fly around somewhere. Um, 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:56.640 I used to do aerial silks. That so I when 0:22:56.640 --> 0:23:02.040 I was like nineteen, eighteen, I, Um, I got really 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:04.399 into Arial Silks for a couple of years and I 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.600 got pretty good at it, but then I started traveling 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:08.880 for work more and you cannot take it with you. 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.560 Not a pordable skill set, so I sort of let 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.639 it fall to the wayside. But that was probably the 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.320 closest thing in real life to like a magical girl 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:23.920 trans I loved it. I really love uh, not seriously, no, 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.120 I mean we were always practicing with Matt S underneathus 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.320 and stuff. They like. They don't let you up there 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:31.639 with nothing until you could do it for a living. Basically, 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:33.639 is it real silk or is it like a polly blend? 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.880 I'm sure it's a poly blend. Like it's stretchy. It's 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.160 like when you try to buy silk pillow cases on Amazon, 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:42.360 like pcent polyester. It's like, okay, babe, this is not 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.840 doing what you think it's doing. I love to sweat. 0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:47.560 I love to do it. The aerial silks really are 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.880 exactly like sailor when transformations, like they're literal silk ribbons 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.320 that like wrap around them like when they transform, but 0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.960 like the transformation sequences, like there is something about that 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.000 that you attached to as a kid, because I also 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:03.760 of like Um, they were being gay. Yeah, it's it's 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:09.120 most like I just have, you know, my my cultural yeah, 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.800 it's actually it's just like a screen and like a 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.520 high pitched, like beeping sound. It's like listening to Aba. 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.840 It's just like it's different. There's like I remember being like, 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.160 I don't know, like before pre middle school, so maybe 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:26.960 like tween preteen vibes, like going to blockbuster and getting 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.159 like this vhs tapes that have like eight episodes on 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:32.040 them or something like that. At a time. You would 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.240