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Speaker 1: I don't remember. So I was like five, and could

426
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: you ask for a better age to get really into

427
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: sailor moon and it it really it resonated with not

428
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: just me but like a lot of kids in my grade.

429
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: Like we would play sailor moon like imagine ARY Games

430
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: together at school for years. Like my like sailor mercury

431
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: was my first crush, unlike any fictional character ever was

432
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: sailor mercury. Okay, so sailor mercury was your crush. Which

433
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: one of them did you want to be? It is

434
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: a different question and I don't. I'm sure I was

435
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: trying to remember like when my friends and I played

436
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: sailor moon at school. It's like who, who was who?

437
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: And I don't remember. I don't remember who was who.

438
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: I don't remember if we took turns or if we

439
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: like made up our own if it was like we've

440
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: just learned how many planets there are, what the moons

441
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: of the planets are, so we're gonna be our own

442
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: sailor scouts. I think. I think it changed, Um, but

443
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: I remember vividly being like in love with sailor mercury.

444
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: She's hot. I mean they're all hot. Oh yeah, sailor mercury, though,

445
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: is very like mean mommy, like sexy, mean mommy, like very,

446
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: like hot, like them top kind of vibes. Yeah, and

447
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 1: she's like she's really smart and like I liked her.

448
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 1: Power is the best. And it was that true, like

449
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: sort of Um, pre aware gay kids thing of like, no,

450
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: I just really like her. I just think she's great.

451
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: It's it's not important. Which one did you want to be?

452
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: I also don't remember who was your favorite. I'm sure,

453
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: like if we were, I also like used to play

454
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: like Sailorman as a kid or like and you would

455
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: kind of Duke it out for like who's who. But

456
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: I'm sure I was like I'm going to be sailor

457
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: Pluto like this, like, was there a sailor pluto? Ever?

458
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was little right. Was Younger? No, that's

459
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: Chimby Moon, who was so fucking annoying. There's that one

460
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: arc where she gets like aged up and she's evil

461
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: and she's in like the all black outfit and it's

462
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: very fierce. I don't know if there was a sailor Pluto.

463
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: I think I just wanted to be sailor Pluto because

464
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: I thought that was cool. But this was back when

465
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: Pluto was a planet and it's I'm trying to remember

466
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: now whether my friends and I also imagine the sailor

467
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: Pluto because we were trying to take the planets off,

468
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: or if there actually was one. But you know, in

469
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: that era, playing power rangers was also a huge thing,

470
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: but everyone just wanted to be the Red Ranger. And

471
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: the thing about, like, you know, choosing power rangers is

472
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: like none of the power rangers have any really distinct

473
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: character or personality traits, like you just kind of pick

474
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: your favorite color and that's the one thing. Well, I

475
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: wanted to be the pink ranger. Obviously, Kimberly Kimberly, the

476
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: most nineties name possible. Yeah, Kimberly. God, where all the Kimberly?

477
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: Kimberly and Danielle. Those were like the nineties names speaking up.

478
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: Ever after, Daniel de barback, come on, it is it's

479
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: probably like one of the most important movies of my time.

480
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite films, and it's like it's

481
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: so bizarre now to like think about like being nine

482
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: and really loving that movie and then when I when

483
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: I worked on Santa Clarita Diet, I was like, wow,

484
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: if only I could go back to me at nine

485
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: and say, like, you're going to work with real which

486
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: is now something I can also say about Melanie Lynskey

487
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: in that Oh my God, and you just okay, Angelica

488
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: Houston's next. Then we'll get you with Richard O'Brien. Yes, please. Um,

489
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: who else is? And the other evil step sister and

490
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: Houston should be on yellow jackets. That would be sick.

491
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: Oh my God, I just got goose bumps. Um, yeah,

492
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: ever after, truly incredible. Another thing that captures the imagination

493
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: of like transformation. Yeah, just like I'm going to be

494
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: one upped like and get my full glamp. And it's

495
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: also very class conscious. I liked that. It was like

496
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: it was like a fairy tale movie and a period

497
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: pace at the same time, like it took Cinderella very seriously. Yes,

498
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And it was also like Leonardo Da Vinci.

499
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't get enough of that. Was Not who could

500
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: have been Gayer in the movie? Definitely he was. He

501
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: was because he, you know, he was sucking in fucking.

502
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: Definitely sucking and fucking. Um. Okay, my favorite sailor scout

503
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: with sailor Venus, because I liked that in the lore

504
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: of the show she was like famous. Oh Yeah, wait,

505
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: Tom I don't remember that. There was this whole thing

506
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: with like Sailor v right at the beginning. Yeah, and

507
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: like and like, Um, you know, Serena was like obsessed

508
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: with her and then she came to school and then

509
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: was also one of the sailor scouts. Okay, here's the things.

510
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: Like I don't really remember a lot of the plot

511
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: specifics of sailor moon because it's not really about that.

512
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: It's more about vibes. When it's so interesting too because

513
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: like at the time for us there were there were

514
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: a couple of different versions of it. Like I like

515
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: it's it's on Hulu now. So, like last night I

516
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: like went on and watched a couple of episodes to

517
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: like remind myself of the structure in the the show, because

518
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I'm not six, do I remember

519
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: what happens? Um, and they have like the they have

520
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: a subtitled version and then like a dubbed version. Um,

521
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: but the dubbed version is not the English version that

522
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: was airing when we were younger. Yeah, like it's uh,

523
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: it's just like a a dial translation of the Japanese version,

524
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: but the English version that was on when we younga

525
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: was like completely different. Full Liberty is taken. Yeah, like

526
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: re edited, like a lot of things, Americanized. Plot details

527
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: changed well, and they made the gay characters and you're like, well,

528
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: these cousins are really close, aren't and like the English

529
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: opening titles, Um, that we remember a completely different like

530
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: the fighting evil by Moonlight Song and the animation that

531
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: goes with it is not the same at all. It

532
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: would be cheating, because I looked it up last night.

533
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: I do know by heart it's a good song. It's

534
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: so good. I mean the guitar riff. Yeah, yeah, its

535
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: there actually has to be. There should be a contemporary

536
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: pop star that covers that for our generation. Who would

537
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: you want to cover it? I mean, I don't know why,

538
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: but I immediately thought of Jojo cat, but she's kind

539
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: of covering a lot of things, like she covered. would

540
00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: like a Miley Cyrus like rock cover. Oh, when you

541
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: said plastic cards, I immediately thought marina and the dind

542
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: Mari would I mean marina is in certain eras has

543
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: been a little sailor Mooney, like I would say fruit

544
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: is kind of sailor moon vibes. I mean maybe just

545
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: because of like the Skut and the boots, but I

546
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: think Ariana would do a good job. Yeah, but I

547
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: don't know that I would love her version the most,

548
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: although I was listening to sweetener on my way here.

549
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: Often want to do yeah, but it would be I

550
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: mean actually we were also talking about Florence before Florence.

551
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: Laurence would be insane. Would turn into like a funeral,

552
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: dirty tambourines and like the drum, like that bit of

553
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: the Charlie's Angel Song where Lana like makes everything. Yeah, yeah,

554
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: she really killed the VIBE. Florence would make a great

555
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: sailor moon villain. Oh my God, well, Queen Beryl. Queen

556
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: Beryl is Florence a little bit like Beryl is. Also,

557
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: we're talking about hot mommy, Mommy Vibes. Queen Beryl will

558
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: step on you absolutely and you will ask her for

559
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: more for the virgins. Do you want to explain who

560
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Queen Beryl is? She's like she's the O G Sailor

561
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: Moon Villain and she has like this big, like flowing

562
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: purple dress and like redhead down to her waist and

563
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: she's mean and she's a she and she, yeah, she

564
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: is Florence. Florence. Could play her in the sailor moon

565
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: live action. Okay, sailer Moon live action film. But but

566
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that could ever happened, because how could

567
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: they do the transformation sequences right? No, would be disappointed.

568
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's think imaginatively, let's let's know. Okay, because

569
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: in thirty years, when C G I has progressed enough

570
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: to the point where they can make it happen, well, yeah,

571
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: we could do like a ray visit of some old

572
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: school practical like whatever they were doing for Barbarella, but

573
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: like space Barrella. Oh my God, I have never actually

574
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: watched that movie, like all the way through. You would

575
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, I've also never seen it. We should

576
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: do a Jane Fonda episode. But here's the thing. If

577
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: Florence is the villain and you're I'm going to say

578
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: sailor Urinus, because the episode that I watched a prep

579
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: for this show was the episode where Haruka's kind of

580
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: like introduced as a character and they're introduced as a

581
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: boy in disguise and all of the sailors have like

582
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: an immediate crush on them and I think the creator

583
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: of sailor moon was like on the record being like

584
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: this sailor's a boy and a girl, and then like

585
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: there were moments it was clarified, or like there were

586
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: arguments about it or whatever, but like it's full like

587
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: you don't know what gender I am, but you're hot

588
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: for me and therefore you're gay. Like that is like

589
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: the vibe. That's quite explicit and purposeful. Yeah, okay, we

590
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: can voice the cats. I'm a Luna. It's honestly kind

591
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: of sad how accurate that is, like, I think in

592
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: any animation. If I ever if I ever get into

593
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: voice that we're acting, there'll be like, okay, you're the

594
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: gay annoying cat like and we'll we'll still do some

595
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: kind of like motion capture work on set where they

596
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: like it will be giving dots. It'll be the DOTS

597
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 1: on the face. No, no, not just the face, girl,

598
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: full gollumn like green screen, like yeah, or like Bennett's

599
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: cumberbatcha smelled an forgot about that. Yeah, I did. I

600
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: mean I did go to cats school at the junket

601
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: for the cats musical in London. So I did learn

602
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: how to move like a cat. See, everything's pulling into

603
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: place for the preparation today. Were you at theater, kid,

604
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: or anything like that? What productions did this? This is

605
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: an unsafe space, but you know, like I, it's to

606
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: the extent that you imagine. Yes, absolutely, one percent, like

607
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: I I did. I did drama in high school, obviously,

608
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: but not only that. Like where I learned how to

609
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: be an actor is through doing like workshops and plays

610
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: with a local theater company in my hometown from like

611
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: fourteen and up. Um, I was. I was brutus and

612
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: Julius Seeson my final year of high school. No, yeah, yeah,

613
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: it was. It was fun, Um, and I oh, I

614
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: loved it. I loved every second of it. But yeah,

615
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: like that's theater stuff like lights up my brain like Um, firework,

616
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: and all of us are recovering the kids in one

617
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 1: way or another. That's just what being queer is pretty much. Well,

618
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: do you still have the same like love of theater

619
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: you like, or is it more of like a nostalgic no,

620
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, I miss what's your role? I Beatrice,

621
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: and much to do about nothing. Oh, that's good, great answer. Yeah,

622
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: I really want to gets I don't remember the plot.

623
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: So Beatrice is, Um, is funny and like quite bold

624
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: and quite self possessed and much as you about nothing.

625
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: Is is about like a couple of things. But, um,

626
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: it's my favorite love story in Shakespeare. There's like Beatrice

627
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: and benedict who like fight like like ostensibly do not

628
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: get on. But they don't get on because they have

629
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: history and I've known each other for a long time

630
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: and like a really good at pissing each other off,

631
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: which of course means that like that turns into banter

632
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: and then they have been in love the whole time

633
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: and it's wonderful. It's like, Oh, the person you've known

634
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: forever who, like, annoys the ship out of you. You

635
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: know what? That does a lot for me. Um, it's

636
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: a great play. You Love Shakespeare? Yes, a lot. I

637
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: also love Shakespeare, as we have talked about, your favorite play.

638
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: It is. It's my favorite play of his. Rose do

639
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: remind me of yours. Okay, I go back and forth

640
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: between amid summer night's dream and the tempest, my two favorites,

641
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: and like it kind of depends on the vibe. Like

642
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: I do like that the tempest is like weird and

643
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: sad and that it's like the last. It's quite melancholy.

644
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: But I mean midsummer is just like. Have you seen

645
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: the national theater live recording of the production of midsummer

646
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: that gwendoline Christie's in? So they so she plays Um Titania,

647
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: but they swapped to Tanya and Oberon's roles in the play.

648
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: She Fox with him. Think is beyonce's love on top

649
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: in a really good way. It's awesome. Okay, crushes yours

650
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: with sailor mercury, mine with Tuxedo mask. What can I say?

651
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: And Queen Beryl, and this, this should have tipped me

652
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: off as to like my whole deal earlier on, I think.

653
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: But like, even as a kid watching sailor moon, every

654
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: time Tuxedo masks showed up, I was always like who's

655
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: this guy? Get him out of here, like it's go away.

656
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: I was always so annoyed whenever he would show up.

657
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: He is pretty annoying and like all he does is

658
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: neg yeah, sailor moon, he's mean. Yeah, and isn't like

659
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: he's like older or something. She's a textually fourteen. Yes,

660
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: it's one of the first things she said. She's fourteen,

661
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: loves meatballs or has meat. She's a cry baby. Yeah,

662
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: she's a fourteen year old. And he's like did they

663
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: ever say, like what? Do you ever really find out

664
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: what his whole deal is? I never paid attention. No,

665
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: I mean you find out that they are like reincarnated

666
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: lovers from the moon. Well, that's the whole thing. Is

667
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: that like Serena or like Osagi, if you know, the

668
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: original is like was the queen of this like of

669
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: the moon or like some other magical planet, Princess empress something,

670
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: and then she sent herself and all of the sailor

671
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: scouts to Earth to be reborn and Tuxedo mask as well, yeah,

672
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: to be reborn to fight monsters, question marks. The laure

673
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: is a little hazy in parts. Maybe monsters aliens, not

674
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: really sure. I always liked, too, that the monsters would

675
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: were genuinely quite scary, very scary, and also extremely gay.

676
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: They were always really gay, very, very powerful, very like

677
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: vividly drawn, like the like. The weapons they carried were

678
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: always pretty intense, like silo moon is sort of like

679
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: fluffy and fun, but also the stakes were quite real,

680
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, which I always liked. It always felt like

681
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: they defeated the monsters like faster than it actually took

682
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: them to transforms. Yeah, like half of the episode was

683
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: kind of teenage hijinks, then another of the episode was

684
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: them all transforming five percent with them defeating the villain,

685
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: and then was like Tuxedo mask being a pedophile. That

686
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: is the mathematical equation of every sailor moon episode. I

687
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: watched them. I like watching the pilot US night. I

688
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, this is buffy. It is literally a buffy.

689
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: Are you a buffy? Yeah, well, I haven't seen the

690
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: whole thing. I think I've seen I think I stopped

691
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: halfway through season four, but I've seen the musical episode okay,

692
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: so like through Cultural Osmosis, yes, and then the chunks

693
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: about season four is really hard to get through. It

694
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: was rough, but the end of it is really good,

695
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: and then season five is great, season six is great. Four,

696
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: or is there too much missing? I mean you do

697
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: kind of need the context. But the thing with like

698
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: TV shows of that era is that the seasons have

699
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: so many episodes. Well, that, I think, was part of

700
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: the barrier for me. I was like, Oh God, every season. Yeah,

701
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: and they're all an hour long. But but I do

702
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: like that because it gives them the leeway to do

703
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: these like little weird one off episodes, stuff that's just

704
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: character stuff exactly, which, you know, like in the era

705
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: of like ten episode TV series, like you don't get

706
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: as much of ever. Ever, again, I didn't miss it.

707
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: I miss like a monster of the week or like

708
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: a bottle episode. I love a bottle episode. I lovesode two.

709
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: I camember the last time I watched like something contemporary.

710
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: That was like a bottle episode, like the last thing

711
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: I can think. I was like girls. You know, there

712
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: was a bottle episode in Dear White People that I

713
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: remember really liking. I didn't watch that, Um Sandman to

714
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: a bottle episode. Another reason for you to watch I

715
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: will watch it. I feel like sailor moon was like

716
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: the primordial like Heroin Bimbo, you know what I mean,

717
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: like came before buffy in the like I'm hot, but

718
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: I also can kick ass and like sometimes I'm a

719
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: little dizzy, but like don't underestimate me. is like kind

720
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: of the buffy sailor moon alignment question mark. Totally agree,

721
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: disagree with I mean that's the whole idea. There's a

722
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: real threat there, for sure. I'm trying to think of

723
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: other folks that like fit into that archetype. Wa. Yes, yeah, Um,

724
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: I guess like you see it more now, because that

725
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: is more of an archetype. Now. I wonder if the

726
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: power puff girls pilot would have done that. What I

727
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: would like to see it. How many would this is

728
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: like the fourth reboot and like the last like five years,

729
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: but this was the live action one. There's a live

730
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: action there was supposed to be pilot. Shot the pilot twice,

731
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: but I don't know. They like make cancel level pilots

732
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: look but I remember, I remember feeling I'm like just

733
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: really just shows a pilot. Yeah, I want to see

734
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: it because we saw all the Paparazzi photos of them

735
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 1: on wires and stuff. I haven't seen this at all. Yeah, Cameron,

736
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: Karen and then I I don't remember. I think she

737
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: was bubbles. Naturally, who else would be? Who was playing him?

738
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: Not Billy Porter. Tell us who was playing him? Darna.

739
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: They probably didn't get that far into it, so that

740
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: would be I have to play him. Which powerpuff girl

741
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: are you? Oh, which one is a green one? Buttercut

742
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: also mean mommy. I I feel that I am also

743
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: spiritually a buttercup. Buttercup, I'm blossom. Unfortunately. Why Sad? What's

744
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: because I'm always the one, the logistical one. I'm always

745
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: the one that's like you guys, let's get it together,

746
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: we have like these things to get done. I'm not.

747
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: You are kind of a bubble. I am kind of

748
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: so that's the thing. Is Like I am bubbles, I'm

749
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 1: an air had, I'm late to things, I'm constantly forgetting ship,

750
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: but for some reason people make me the blossom and

751
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: every friend. Where do you make yourself? Well, if no

752
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: one else is gonna like you, know buy you're going

753
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: to see. It's like it's self enforcing. Yeah, it's like okay,

754
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: I guess all research Airbnbs, you know what I mean.

755
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: But it's true that if you're in a group and

756
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: someone is really leaning into their their bubbles energy or

757
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: their buttercup energy, you do by defaults become on the calendar,

758
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: by silent decision making. Yeah, figure out the train times. Um,

759
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: pop off girls. I watched a little bit, but I

760
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: remember not attaching to it in the same way, I

761
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: think because I didn't love the animation style. Yeah, it's

762
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: very Hannah Barbara. Is that what that era of Cartoonoo do? Oh,

763
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: I mean just the era of cartoons, the cartoon cartoon

764
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: like cartoon networking, like like Um, Samurai Joe, Johnny, Smuri, Smuri,

765
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: Samurai Jack, Samurai and Johnny Bravo. Yes, and I've seen

766
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: a lot of Fan Art of Samurai Jack and Johnny

767
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: Bravo Kissing, kissing, not just you. I wanted. I wanted

768
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: the power off girls to have hands. I was like,

769
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: how are they holding? That is so disturbing. Cartoons don't

770
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: have hands. Yeah, Um, but yeah, the hard line of

771
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: the animation styles of area of the time and I

772
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: loved the animation style of sailor moon so much so

773
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: it was really beautiful. It's like being really young watching

774
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: it being like Oh, this like just fucking rules, this

775
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: is gorgeous. In the Pantheon of gender non specific kind

776
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: of protagonists are like very like envy protagonists, like all

777
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: of the studio Ghibli like heart throbs, are like Howell,

778
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: and it's not fine, right, and he has that whole

779
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: like a meltdown because he's not. He's like not beautiful.

780
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: He's like he dyes his hair, like his hair turns

781
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: the different colonies, like I'm not beautiful. I mean who

782
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: among us that egg scenario more times than I want to.

783
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: He's literally like I'm going to kill myself, and it's

784
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: like that is I've gotten out of the Salon Chair.

785
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: Like should I kill should kill myself, or do I

786
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: kill the stylists? Yeah, yeah, one or the other or both? Yeah,

787
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 1: why not? I mean how's so hot? WHO's so hot?

788
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: Princess Mononoke, so hot, I can't even talk about it.

789
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: And then, yeah, and then Ruka, Haruka, gender goals, sailor Urinus,

790
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: and also the food in Studio Ghibli movies. It just

791
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: looks so good. I had a similar thing with, like

792
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: with May Cup in animation when I was younger, like

793
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: like in Mulan when they put the Lipstick on, like

794
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: how people, how people's hair moved. That whole opening number

795
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: in Mulan is a Banger, stunning and those images that

796
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: I just remember really latching onto hair. Animated Hair is

797
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: very important and sailor moon does it so well. Yeah,

798
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: I mean, how long is her hair to be flowing

799
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: that long in those pigtails? She definitely has some mixed

800
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: intern work. Yeah, she's definitely got plugs. She's got a weave. Yeah,

801
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: I love long flowing animated hair. That was when I

802
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: used to draw it, when I was a little like

803
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: hair was like the big thing that I was really

804
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: obsessed with, and hair and animation is so specific, like

805
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: Um Arial's Weird Bang thing and the little made like

806
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: what is that? Yeah, like Um like Meg's really angular

807
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: hair and Hercules into it, the little swirls for Nipples,

808
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: the Nipswalls, the nips worlds into a very controversial elbow. Elbows.

809
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: What was that? They're just like it's Greek, I guess. Yeah,

810
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: their Corinthian column like kids will like we'll like learn

811
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: how to draw from stuff. This sing and like my

812
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: my older brother would like draw stuff that was like

813
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: very stylistically taken from Hercules. So it always reminds me

814
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 1: of him and I remember friends of mine like learning

815
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: how to draw from sailor moon, like filling up their

816
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: sketch books with with hair, you know, like figuring out

817
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: how to draw the skirts. I definitely used to draw.

818
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: I used to draw like anything I would watch, and

819
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: I just remembered, Um, so Mulan the first and one

820
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: of two times I'd ever really been to Disneyland, slash world.

821
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: What's the one in Florida? Disney world? Disney world as

822
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: a kid, I was like a little baby kid. Was Right.

823
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: War Mulan came out and you could go into this

824
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: like exhibit that had like original like sketches of the Mulan,

825
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: kind of like world. Can we talk about concept dot

826
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: like generally for a second? Studio Ghibli concert are like.

827
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: Do you have like a memory attachment to any sort

828
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: of specific concept art? I just remember, like any time

829
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: I fell in love with a movie, like either my

830
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: my parents would or like I would like try to

831
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: get ahold of whatever behind the scenes book was made

832
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: about it. I have the Lord of the Rings One, yes, yes, yes, yes,

833
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: like well, like Alan How's drawings? Like the books about

834
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: the Nannia movies? I have the titanic ones. Yeah, I

835
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: love a lite in the witch and the wardrobe. It's

836
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: so good. The Lord of the Rings One's those visual companions, though.

837
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: They should be studied because, like, they actually textually are

838
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: so rich and like they give you so many sketches

839
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: and so much world building that, like, so much of

840
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: it is lost on you because these movies are so

841
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: maximalist and little. The rings is so special. What I like,

842
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: the original trilogy are like that's some of my favorite

843
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: films and, like, get ready for this, I watched them

844
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: every I watched all three extended editions in Christmas, every

845
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: yet on New Year's Day, and I call that ringing

846
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: in the new yet in a group, or there's a

847
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: friend in Australia that I do it with if we're

848
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: in the same place, and if we're not, all do

849
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: it by myself. Okay, well, if you need someone to

850
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: watch with this year, I mean, let's go, because I also,

851
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: around the holidays, do the same thing, but I am

852
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: wont to do like Watch the whole series and then

853
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: just like started over again. It's beautiful, you know. Or

854
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: like I'll watch the two towers twice. I made with

855
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: so much care and like everyone involved cares like the

856
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: most amount possible and like the everybody has the resources,

857
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: they need, time, they need like everybody's invested that, I

858
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: mean beyond anything else, so that it's just such a

859
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: unique cinematic at easement, I think. And Yeah, but that's

860
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: the difference between the Hobbit and why it's infuriating. Is

861
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: like not the same level of Kara did not go

862
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: into it because of the way it was made and

863
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: like the like Gamba del Toro of it all, and

864
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: like Peter Jackson, talk about concept dot my God, if like,

865
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: can you imagine if we had gotten did you? Have

866
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: you heard the t about how the Amazon Prime, like

867
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: rings of power, reached out to Peter Jackson and then

868
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: ghost to him? I did read that. Tell me they

869
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: were so they apparently, when they first started pulling the

870
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: show together, they reached out to him and they were

871
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: like hey, we would love for you to be involved.

872
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: To what capacity, we don't know, and Peter Jackson was

873
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: like yes, which, like he doesn't say yes to things. Um,

874
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: so I was kind of shook, but he said yes

875
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: and then they fully ghosted him and he's like on

876
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: the record, like you know, talking to journalists, being like yeah,

877
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: and I never heard back from them. A get like

878
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: such a queen like I was like, yeah, we're good,

879
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, they like put on the ring

880
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: and we're like Jackson even is he doing anything the

881
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: Beatles documentary? Jackson is like a quiet, passionate documentarian. I

882
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: didn't know that. Nothing but respect for Peter Jackson, but

883
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: he could not pick a less interesting subject for me

884
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: to consume. I do not want to want you don't

885
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: want to watch the six our Beatles? Don't? You could

886
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: not pay me. I will skip to the Yoko sections

887
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: and then I'll be done. I think the sailor moon

888
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: theme song is better than any song the Beatles ever

889
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: wrote say that I think I definitely pretended to like

890
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: the Beatles as a kid, like you know. And also, okay, actually,

891
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: the trailer, not across the universe of the movie, but

892
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: the Ray across the I do love Jim Surgis is

893
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, because he is in Sandman. I've been

894
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: thinking about how cute he is. I wouldn't recommend watching

895
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: it sober, but I would say that it's like for

896
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: me like when that trailer came out. I remember it

897
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: was like, you know, in the era of you to

898
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: early eras of Youtube, where you become with an obsessed

899
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: with a video and you just have to watch it

900
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: like every single day for like weeks and weeks. And

901
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen it, like I've probably seen the

902
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: entire movie through gifts on Tumbler. I'm mad for it

903
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: over there. That was the tumbler. I've seen Uncle Sam

904
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: leaning with the pointing things, but the movie, it's truly

905
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: truly a thing that happened very, very little rings Culture

906
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: Florence the machine. I think I had a Florence in

907
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: the machine tumbler for a minute. Didn't really write like

908
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: at the very because like a beginning of her career

909
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: was like kind of when Tumbler was at its peak.

910
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: I used to have a tumbler that just reposted images

911
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: of Solange and beyonce together and I called it keeping

912
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: up with the noses. That's amazing, thought Tumbler Dot Com,

913
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: but it never got popular anything, unfortunately. The first time

914
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: I ever heard of Florence in the machine song was

915
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: Um in a trailer for a new season of one

916
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: of my favorite shows at the time, which was a

917
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: BBC show called being human. Did either of you ever

918
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 1: say it? I think an American version of it was made,

919
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: but it's about a werewolf, a ghost and a vampire.

920
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: I do remember. I remember it already sounds like something

921
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: rose has watched. I haven't watched it, but I definitely

922
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: like remember. It was incredible and I if I remember correctly,

923
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: it was the trailer for the season two, I think.

924
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: But I was in love with this show and they

925
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: used Howel, like the Florence Song. Oh my God, it's

926
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: a great song. Yeah, the first time I ever saw

927
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: her live was like her first American show when she

928
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: was like breaking out. It was a terminal five in

929
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: New York. Was the first time I ever did acid

930
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: and she opened with how and I was like I

931
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: like left my body and like was communing with her

932
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: and like a fully spiritual way, and she was like

933
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: a vessel to some like greater power, and I was

934
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: like hunched over my computer with the trailer on Youtube

935
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: listening to it so I could type the lyrics into Google,

936
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: being like what, what is this song? Yeah, yeah, it was,

937
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: and I found it. I was like, who's flaring in

938
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: the machine? And then I bought her album like that week.

939
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: I think that album is so like, that album is

940
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: so like raw and like like so many different sounds

941
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: and her voices so like angry but also beautiful. I

942
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: probably watched the cosmic love music video like like upwards

943
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: of five hundred times the year that it came out. Yeah,

944
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: I would go for like walks by myself a lot

945
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: as a teenager. I would like go to this like

946
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: one public swing set or like explore my my neighborhood.

947
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: I lived right near like a national reserve and I

948
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: just remember like sitting in a park alone, like memorizing

949
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: the lyrics to my boy builds coffins. Just like she

950
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: understands me. I've seen her every era, and so now

951
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: I have to see this era, because I do think

952
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: that this album that she just released, dance faver, is

953
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: like one of my favorites in a while. I okay,

954
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: I want to know. What's your favorite Florence album? Oh

955
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: my God, okay, tough, but I think I think, like truly,

956
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's it's how big,

957
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: how blue, how beautiful. It's her best it's her best album. Yeah,

958
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: it's my favorite. Queen of peace is like one of

959
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: my favorite Florence. What kind of man is a crazy opener?

960
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: Like it's it's incredible. It throws you right in the

961
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: deep end. And then various storms and science is one

962
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: of my favorite songs of hers. Well, it's like the

963
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: album where she started getting really into dance and like

964
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: and you can, I mean she's always been such a

965
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: like a mover, you know, especially like you see her

966
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: live performances and like it's all about this like frenetic

967
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: energy she has, but like you can kind of hear

968
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: this like interest she has and like theatrical performance coming

969
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: through in the music Um and like what kind of

970
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: man does? What kind of man is is very that

971
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: various storms and saints is so good, it's so beautiful

972
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: and that the music video of it. Is there a

973
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: music video of that? I don't know, because she did

974
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: she did a bunch of videos for that album that

975
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: we're like connected, and I think there was like a

976
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: various storms and saints moments. Um highest hope is probably

977
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: my best. It's it's so different. It is so different.

978
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: It's still really good and I saw when she was

979
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: touring she did a performance of it at Bam, which

980
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: was like the right context to see it in and

981
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: it made me like it a lot more. So intimate,

982
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: but it's it is very different from all of her

983
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: other work. I was really always a ceremonials girl. Oh yeah,

984
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that was a transportive album that came

985
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: out when I was living in Bushwick, like near one

986
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: of the huge cemeteries there, and I would like go

987
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: on walks in the cemetery listening to ceremonials, and so

988
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: that was very the vibe of that. Her music feels

989
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: like like motion, like movement. It's like I remember like

990
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: making a stupid tweet about it, like I just ago,

991
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: but her music makes me feel like I can control

992
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: the weather. YEA, she is. Yes, she is, is, she's

993
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: a witch, she's like a fairy, she's a demon, she's

994
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: all of those things and I think that, like when

995
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: she came onto the scene, which is when I fell

996
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: in love with her, I feel like her. I think

997
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: tumbler culture had created a perfect like landscape for her

998
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: to come into because like self, serious, like Kate Bushey,

999
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: in weather, weather controller, is like very like. I don't know.

1000
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that I think are

1001
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: that are in that legacy of like you know what

1002
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: she did first. Like there was nothing like her when

1003
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,959
Speaker 1: she came onto the scene. Like there is a power

1004
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: within me. I think the way had kind of been

1005
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: cleared for her a little bit with like amy winehouse

1006
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: Duffy Adele of like the sort of alternative British singer

1007
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: Songwriters who made like very emotive music, but she kind

1008
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: of brought the like big booming pop into it and

1009
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: like chamber pop was certainly not something we were like

1010
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: listening to in two thousand nine. I also don't know

1011
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: like what other what other music sounded like with like

1012
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: the nothing, I mean particularly at the time, like you know,

1013
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: in in like the years before her first album releases,

1014
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: like it's like two thousand and six, seven eight, and

1015
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: I can't think of one like her at the time. Yeah,

1016
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: and she also will, because I think the first song

1017
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: of hers that really broke out was kiss with a fist.

1018
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: So it was almost like it was yeah, it was

1019
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: kind of like sneaky in a way, because you kind

1020
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: of got one thing for her. She was very you know,

1021
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: she kind of like snuck in at like the tail

1022
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: end of like Kate Nash, Kate Nash a little bit,

1023
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: a little bit Lily Allen. Yeah, like the kiss with

1024
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: a fist tone is like the ven diagram overlap. I

1025
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: think totally. My God, Kate Nash, my finger tips holding

1026
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: onto the foundation. Kate Nash and Lily Allen. We're both

1027
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: on the very first mix CD that my very first

1028
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: boyfriend made for me. So okay, but that, honestly, that

1029
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: what even is that era of like indie pop, like

1030
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: I miss. There's something. It's coming back because, you know,

1031
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: Indie slee is is like the thing that it's like

1032
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: sort of like low fi, like snarky. I don't know,

1033
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: there's something quite earnest about it, but I think maybe

1034
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: people are missing. But like we just don't have bands

1035
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: like Edward Sharp and the magnetic Zeros anymore. You know

1036
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like like it's probably a devenge er

1037
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: ban Har Um like kind of throaty acoustic set list

1038
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: and they're like seventeen members of the band and you

1039
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: don't know what the other like fifteen do you know?

1040
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: Like that, I wouldn't be done to like go to

1041
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: like a Gig, you know, like a dirty, grungy like

1042
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: rock show. Actually, this is something that I was thinking

1043
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: about when I went to see Chromatica ball because, I mean,

1044
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not trying to poop poo on like,

1045
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, kindness punks or whatever, but I am Gaga

1046
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: fans are, I mean, sorry, very white, like it's it's

1047
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: a deeply Caucasian crowd, and they were also just very

1048
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: like we, and I said, I'll say, I'll say we

1049
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: we are all like kind of losers and therefore like

1050
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: don't really know like how to vibe and how to

1051
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: be cool and a concert environment. And when we went

1052
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Speaker 1: to when I went to gramatical ball, I was like,

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Speaker 1: why is anyone dancing, like, why is anyone Moh Ing?

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01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: And Gaga, during her shows, frequently says stuff like dance,

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Speaker 1: motherfucker dances and likes yeah, and it's crazy because I

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Speaker 1: used to go. I don't go to concerts that much anymore,

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Speaker 1: but I used to go to like two concerts a month.

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Speaker 1: Like I would find like fifteen twenty dollar tickets and

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Speaker 1: go see you, know Ingrad Michaelson or like, Um, do

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Speaker 1: you remember? Uh Fuck, is really a show where you're

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Speaker 1: going to rage out girl, or like Laura Marling or

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Speaker 1: something like that. But I have another classic Mash Opportunity. Laura,

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Speaker 1: Laura Music, Laura Marley used to be my number one but,

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Speaker 1: like I would go to concerts alone all the time

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Speaker 1: and like I'm thinking about like when I saw sleigh

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Speaker 1: bells live and like, Oh my God, I incredible show.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. is like because, Um, we all

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Speaker 1: want to be respectful and not endanger each other's lives.

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01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: We don't like mash anymore, but I kind of like

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Speaker 1: miss like, because you can't go to a slave ill

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Speaker 1: show and not mash I. I once saw them at

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Speaker 1: the basement at Le Poissan Rouge and it was like

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Speaker 1: it was I thought I was going to die that night,

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01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: as I also did a lot of cocaine that night.

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Speaker 1: So that's partially what I say. I have gotten into

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01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: multiple emotional altercations with people at concert really yes I

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: got in a fight with a girl at a Carly

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01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: Rag Jefson concert at Terminal Five, I, one of the

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Speaker 1: most heated places. This girl was so rude, she was

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Speaker 1: constantly I mean, I'm, you know, universally hated at any

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Speaker 1: concert because I'm sick, six ft two and so like

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01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: everyone just hates me, and like this girl was constantly

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01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: physically pushing my back, like trying to like push me

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01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: away from her and I'm like, I'm not an invasive answer.

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01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm a very small dancer, like I'm very cognizant of

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01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: the space I take up. But she was like really

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01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: wasted and um I got into a fight with her

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01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: at some point. I was just like just go in

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01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: front of me, I don't care. Just like literally go

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01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: in front of me. I just don't want to interact

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01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: with you anymore. I also got in a fight with

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01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: a woman at a Michelle Branch concert during next and

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01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna get get into a fight with someone at

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01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: the worst part is it is it wasn't o g

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01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: Michelle Branch. It was like her not her most recent

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01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: I guess her most recent album, was a very small show,

1097
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: maybe at Lepos San Rouge, I want to say, but

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01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: like there was some woman who was audibly complaining about me,

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01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: like behind me, and she was like, Oh, I can't see,

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01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: oh no, I can't see or whatever, and I like

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01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: turned around and I was like I would love to

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01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: like cut off my shins for you, but like, unfortunately,

1103
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: like I can't, like I'm just tall. So like you

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01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: could move if you wanted to. Your welcome to go

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01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: in front of me, and she was like, Oh, well,

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01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: crowds make me nervous, so that's why I'm in the back.

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01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, you live in New York,

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01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: and I was just like so. And then's so funny

1109
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: that like fear of having to say the polite thing

1110
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: as you say the rude thing. It's like how, okay,

1111
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: so your nervousness around tapping me on the shoulder and

1112
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: saying hey, would I actually be able to go in

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01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: front of you, means that instead you're just going to

1114
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: be passive, aggressive loudly like now, is that better? Let's

1115
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: let's not never forget that sailor moon is fourteen. Yeah,

1116
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: she's young, and that's crazy too. I mean I think

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01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: it's like it's a phenomenon. was like every piece of

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01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: children on teenagers media, right or it's like when you're

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01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: a kid, you're like yeah, that's a person, that's an adult,

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01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: that's that's fine, and now when I look at teenagers,

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01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not a person, you have you do

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01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: not have independent thought, like nothing you think or say matters.

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01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: And then there's the cognitive dissonance of like well, I

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Speaker 1: didn't look that young. It's like yes, you did, yes,

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01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: you did. That is kind of crazy, even though I

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01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: guess like there are a lot of movies these days

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01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: where like high school or start being played by like

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Speaker 1: full thirty seven year old. That doesn't help. Well, I

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01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: like this this like new kind of end that's emerging

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01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: where they're actually casting teenagers as that. That okay. When

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01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: I think about that, I think about the movie eighth grade,

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01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: which it ruined me, like it knocked me, failed me

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01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: at the knees. But Um Elsie fishing in that movie

1134
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: is like yeah, no, that's that's that's a child, that's

1135
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old, and that is how vulnerable fourteen

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01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: year old is and how vulnerable it feels. And the

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Speaker 1: fourteen year old like youtube videos like in that like

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01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: the kind of class of youtube videos. Like I was

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01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: watching like some sort of like interview about like Bo

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Speaker 1: Burnham's process of like making that movie, and he was

1141
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: like I watched hundreds of hours of like preteen youtuber

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01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: like vlogs like to like understand like and it's crazy, though,

1143
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: that this is like that. This is what the generation

1144
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: is doing now, like are they're cataloging their thoughts like

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01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: for all of the public, and they are not going

1146
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: to want those to exist. But that's what I wonder

1147
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: about because I mean, like my experience of the Internet

1148
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: as a young person was a of writing stuff down

1149
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: live journal a little bit. I Live Journal still exists

1150
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: somewhere and I need it shut I need the nuclear codes. But, like,

1151
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, I do think it is different

1152
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: to have your legal name and your face attached it

1153
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: to everything you're putting out. You know, I wonder what, Um,

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01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: what that's going to feel and look like later. Yeah,

1155
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, not everyone gets to fully transform

1156
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: into a superhero and like change their identity. Lucky for me,

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01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: I only used my live journal to steal music and

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01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: I honestly recently revisited it and, Um, it was I

1159
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: only have one post and it's it's like a text

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01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: only post. That's like, does anybody have a good MP

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01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: three or MP four of a LEJANDRO? My Lady Gaga,

1162
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: I could have, I could have helped you out. The

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01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: Gut reaction I had to that concern. I'm like, no,

1164
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: it does anyone. I remember the fucking youtube to MP

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01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: three CONVADAH. My Live Journal was mostly we really used

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01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: it as a way to bully each other. So it

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01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 1: was like you would say the meanest, nastiest Shit about

1168
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: each other in your live journal and like no, like

1169
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: change of names, nothing. But then you didn't talk about

1170
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: it at school. At School you acted like everything was

1171
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: totally fine and normal, and then you would go home

1172
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,759
Speaker 1: again that night and be like, I hope she kills herself.

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01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, me and cyber bullying. Yeah, I was

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: a cyber bullier in the high school, but I was

1175
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: also cyber bullied. So you know, people, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: I mean, they do. It is annoying, but that is true.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with a discussion on Greek mythology.

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Speaker 1: This one is a long time coming. One for the

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Speaker 1: book is well, one for specifically one book, one book,

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Speaker 1: Laire's book of Greek Mythology, a local bookstore. Um, and uh,

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